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proper scarab Oct 4, 2020, 6:01 PM

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uh!

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that's good! \o/

frozen stratus Oct 4, 2020, 6:01 PM

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Mad world is going away

proper scarab Oct 4, 2020, 6:02 PM

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ah, I'm not good enough for hard stuff like that 😄

frozen stratus Oct 4, 2020, 6:04 PM

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its not too hard

proper scarab Oct 4, 2020, 6:17 PM

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eh well, with my sanity and gear level and all I can barely reach mage quarter, win, and fight the final boss 😛

frozen stratus Oct 4, 2020, 6:18 PM

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you need the titan thingy

mighty monolith Oct 4, 2020, 6:52 PM

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what hunter spec shall I go for in shadowlands? which one seems to be the best option?

strange falcon Oct 4, 2020, 7:09 PM

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We dont know,but unless they greatly buff it,surely not survival

cunning fossil Oct 4, 2020, 7:19 PM

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F

terse anvil Oct 4, 2020, 7:23 PM

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Marksman is really strong however that most likely means a nerf lol

frozen stratus Oct 5, 2020, 1:26 AM

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I think a majority of the leveling paths end several zones before the expansion end

tropic trail Oct 5, 2020, 1:26 AM

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Hopefully they wont nerf it like they did monk

frozen stratus Oct 5, 2020, 1:26 AM

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like the last zone for that expansion

tropic trail Oct 5, 2020, 1:26 AM

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I wish theyd just let us level through an entire expansion

frozen stratus Oct 5, 2020, 1:26 AM

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it'd take too long

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because its all side quests that take fucking forever

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side bullshit

tropic trail Oct 5, 2020, 1:27 AM

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True

frozen stratus Oct 5, 2020, 1:27 AM

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they need to cull quests down if you want that

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taleisin (however the fuck his name is spelled) recommended a great fix

tropic trail Oct 5, 2020, 1:27 AM

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Theres some expansions I still need to enjoy so I want to do them fully

frozen stratus Oct 5, 2020, 1:27 AM

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where you basically play through a summary of the campaign

tropic trail Oct 5, 2020, 1:27 AM

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Cool

frozen stratus Oct 5, 2020, 1:28 AM

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but thats not how it works now

tropic trail Oct 5, 2020, 1:28 AM

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I stopped playing during WOD and came back during BFA

frozen stratus Oct 5, 2020, 1:28 AM

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so you basically just level through the zones till you hit 50

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then it teleports you back to orgrimmar

tropic trail Oct 5, 2020, 1:29 AM

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So I missed my now favorite expansion Legion

frozen stratus Oct 5, 2020, 1:30 AM

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if you wanna do loremaster you'll still be max level

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its actually technically worse now

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LULW

tropic trail Oct 5, 2020, 1:30 AM

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I'll just play the game

frozen stratus Oct 5, 2020, 1:30 AM

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chef_thonk

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playing the game

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was ist das

tropic trail Oct 5, 2020, 1:31 AM

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When you simp for bwonsamdi and get the turtle to the water

frozen stratus Oct 5, 2020, 1:31 AM

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hmmm

tropic trail Oct 5, 2020, 1:35 AM

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I'm mainly going to be playing a Zandalari Troll Mistweaver Monk in Legion and the rest of the new characters will be minor alts besides the human and Kul tiran I suppose

deep pawn Oct 5, 2020, 1:49 AM

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so classic zone levelling is the same pace

frozen stratus Oct 5, 2020, 1:49 AM

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is it?

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chef_thonk

tropic trail Oct 5, 2020, 1:51 AM

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I'm so confused at what people are saying about leveling

deep pawn Oct 5, 2020, 1:51 AM

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unless it slows down drastically at 10

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started in Mulgore cause why not

plain vigil Oct 5, 2020, 2:39 AM

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It's paced a lot quicker. But because each level is impactful it makes you perceive it as even faster. It takes about 70-75% of the time it takes on live

frozen stratus Oct 5, 2020, 2:40 AM

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you level in like 10 hr max

deep pawn Oct 5, 2020, 2:45 AM

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if that based on my experience of exp per quest

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is exile's reach under an hour?

frozen stratus Oct 5, 2020, 2:46 AM

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I would assume

deep pawn Oct 5, 2020, 2:48 AM

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like right now level pacing in classic cata zones is the same as live. Based on that you're gonna be almost level 50 by the time you finish say Westfall and Redridge as Alliance

tight ferry Oct 5, 2020, 3:14 AM

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Some people like to level.

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Some did it a bit too much.

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Having a fast 50 is pretty good.

deep pawn Oct 5, 2020, 4:41 AM

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I guess I just believed them when they said you'd see the entire story of an expansion at least. If you aren't getting to Nagrand and the finale of that zone in WoD for example they kinda need to slow it down some. Or if you don't do Twilight Highlands.

fading girder Oct 5, 2020, 4:47 AM

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hmm, but if each expansion takes a different # of hours to finish, then there's a conflict between scaling xp for lore exposure vs balancing xp per time for the levelers (not talking about the hardcore levelers that will always pick whichever is slightly faster)

frozen stratus Oct 5, 2020, 4:47 AM

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They also sont want it to take 20~30 hours to level

deep pawn Oct 5, 2020, 4:48 AM

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And doing 5 zones of WoD would be 20 hours?

frozen stratus Oct 5, 2020, 4:49 AM

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Idk itd be some number

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They definitely want the average player to level in 12 or 15 hours

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Its hard to say what the average player would take

deep pawn Oct 5, 2020, 4:54 AM

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I get being faster but I don't think you even do all 3 zones of BfA with the current tuning

frozen stratus Oct 5, 2020, 4:55 AM

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Sigh without actually just culling quests

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I dont see a way to make it work the way people want

radiant ferry Oct 5, 2020, 4:57 AM

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who's tested which zones are quicker compared to others? I was leveling in burning crusade, but I don't have a baseline for comparison.

frozen stratus Oct 5, 2020, 5:00 AM

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Wod is like 6 or 7 hrs

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Maybe 8

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For speedrunners

deep pawn Oct 5, 2020, 5:05 AM

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and WoD is primarily the fact the bonus objectives still exist I bet

frozen stratus Oct 5, 2020, 5:05 AM

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They nerfed those hard

deep pawn Oct 5, 2020, 5:08 AM

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interesting it's still so much faster

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Or is Gorgrond quest exp still higher than any other equivalent zone?

dense plover Oct 5, 2020, 5:08 AM

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nerfed also

frozen stratus Oct 5, 2020, 5:08 AM

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That last part is probably it

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Yeah

dense plover Oct 5, 2020, 5:09 AM

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WoD is like 10-12 hours on beta currently

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at least

frozen stratus Oct 5, 2020, 5:09 AM

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For fasty bois?

dense plover Oct 5, 2020, 5:09 AM

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yeah

frozen stratus Oct 5, 2020, 5:09 AM

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Wasnt legion 7 or 8

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chef_thonk

dense plover Oct 5, 2020, 5:09 AM

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no

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legion was like 12-13

frozen stratus Oct 5, 2020, 5:09 AM

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Whelp

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Please wod win

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I dont wanna do those other expansions

tropic trail Oct 5, 2020, 5:10 AM

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Too bad, off to cataclysm with you

frozen stratus Oct 5, 2020, 5:11 AM

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Nooooo

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I dont wanna

tropic trail Oct 5, 2020, 5:11 AM

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To the twilight highlands with you

frozen stratus Oct 5, 2020, 5:12 AM

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Cataclysm is like the brazil of leveling

deep pawn Oct 5, 2020, 5:12 AM

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You mean an Indiana Jones parody zone isn't the peak gaming experience?

tropic trail Oct 5, 2020, 5:13 AM

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Now, to banish you further to burning crusade

deep pawn Oct 5, 2020, 5:13 AM

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Not even Sylvanas would be that evil

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and I say that as someone who picks TBC over Wrath every time cause screw ice and tundra

frozen stratus Oct 5, 2020, 5:14 AM

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I do borean every time

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Do i hate myself?

tropic trail Oct 5, 2020, 5:14 AM

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Howling fjord looks boring

frozen stratus Oct 5, 2020, 5:14 AM

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yes

deep pawn Oct 5, 2020, 5:15 AM

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I just threw up in my mouth a bit imagining doing Borean Tundra or Howling Fjord without flying

frozen stratus Oct 5, 2020, 5:15 AM

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What i do it with flyinf

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Ohhh

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Ncn

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Nvm

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Oh fuck no

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No no no no no no

tropic trail Oct 5, 2020, 5:15 AM

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When you're ground mount and get dazed by 10 enemies

deep pawn Oct 5, 2020, 5:16 AM

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No flying until 30

frozen stratus Oct 5, 2020, 5:16 AM

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cringe

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Like i said wod all the way

tropic trail Oct 5, 2020, 5:16 AM

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Spires of arak are annoying

frozen stratus Oct 5, 2020, 5:16 AM

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Zones actually made with feet in mind

tropic trail Oct 5, 2020, 5:16 AM

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I go to another zone and everything disappears

deep pawn Oct 5, 2020, 5:16 AM

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I could probably do WoD and BfA no problems without flying even if I'll hate doing the Tanaan intro

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That or I'll just do classic zones since those usually flow very well

frozen stratus Oct 5, 2020, 5:17 AM

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Ah fuck i forgot to put in my bug report

tropic trail Oct 5, 2020, 5:17 AM

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Beta?

frozen stratus Oct 5, 2020, 5:17 AM

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No

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Frost dk feels super bad early levels compared to other dk specs

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I was going to recommend changing when you get obliterate

deep pawn Oct 5, 2020, 5:18 AM

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I also forgot to put a report in that the insanity bar doesn't show up at level 10 despite you gaining insanity

frozen stratus Oct 5, 2020, 5:18 AM

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Oof

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Also the mobs by the dark portal are overtuned

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Like really overtuned

tropic trail Oct 5, 2020, 5:20 AM

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Overtuned?

frozen stratus Oct 5, 2020, 5:20 AM

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Yes they have too much health and melt you

tropic trail Oct 5, 2020, 5:20 AM

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Ah

frozen stratus Oct 5, 2020, 5:20 AM

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Like even in 1v1 they are hard

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But you usually cant 1v1v

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At least for dks it was that way

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So likely they just scale up wrong

fading girder Oct 5, 2020, 6:06 AM

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TBC? weren't those always difficult mobs that you'er not supposed to fight?

deep pawn Oct 5, 2020, 6:29 AM

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he has to mean the ones in the blasted lands used for some quests?

low grove Oct 5, 2020, 7:47 AM

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How is shadow priest and holy pala in sl?

strange falcon Oct 5, 2020, 7:48 AM

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shadow priest got totally reworked

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from bfa

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holy pala i dont think has got many changes other than getting abilities back

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@low grove

low grove Oct 5, 2020, 7:51 AM

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Yeah i saw hpalas are still great in SL and heard sp gonna be imba

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I wonder about destro warlocks too @strange falcon

strange falcon Oct 5, 2020, 7:52 AM

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destro warlocks were a little too high in the damage meters and they got smacked with nerfbat

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but i think they still pretty high up

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given expac just got delayed,we may see a lot of dps tuning still

low grove Oct 5, 2020, 7:53 AM

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True that

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I will stick with pally then i will choose between sp and warlock. I dunno

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I was about to get 1 month off from work, im glad i did not. Now i have to wait till they announce new date for shadowlands...

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Its expected on mid november

strange falcon Oct 5, 2020, 7:54 AM

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eh idk if they'd take a delay just to put it out like 3 weeks later

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given the problems in balancing

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that would be objectively stupid

low grove Oct 5, 2020, 7:55 AM

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Well ofc. Its better to play with fixed stuff instead of buggy stuff

strange falcon Oct 5, 2020, 7:55 AM

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imo the most likely date would be december 15th with HC raid 3 weeks later on january 5th

low grove Oct 5, 2020, 7:55 AM

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Oh damn that is too much

strange falcon Oct 5, 2020, 7:55 AM

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but i was wrong about "they wont delay it,the activision finance team wont allow it"

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so who knows

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speculating is kinda pointless

low grove Oct 5, 2020, 7:55 AM

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YeAh

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I m very tired. No holidays since 2 years

strange falcon Oct 5, 2020, 7:56 AM

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lol

low grove Oct 5, 2020, 7:56 AM

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They better be release it in november haha

strange falcon Oct 5, 2020, 7:56 AM

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nah lul

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they already offering refunds

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so i dont think they're doing a 3 week delay

low grove Oct 5, 2020, 7:56 AM

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Fine. First week of december is acceptable then

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😂

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sad

strange falcon Oct 5, 2020, 7:58 AM

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the emote of the guy with the happy mask but he's crying behind the mask

low grove Oct 5, 2020, 7:58 AM

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Yes also inside

peak fern Oct 5, 2020, 7:58 AM

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so the prepatch is gonna be a pretty damn long one

low grove Oct 5, 2020, 7:59 AM

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Yeah

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At least we can try new stuff

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Are they gonna disable random bgs and dungeons during pre-patch?

strange falcon Oct 5, 2020, 8:01 AM

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i think the devs wanted to delay months ago

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they even did the split prepatch

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and then finally they were allowed to delay it because the players were clamoring for it too

soft flower Oct 5, 2020, 8:46 AM

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How long you guys thing prepatch will last? Hoping I can get a decent couple alts leveled in-between and finish my warfront set

strange falcon Oct 5, 2020, 8:52 AM

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we cant know really

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but prob december

velvet violet Oct 5, 2020, 9:09 AM

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If Pre event starts with prepatch it should be around mid/end november

strange falcon Oct 5, 2020, 9:16 AM

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zombie event does not start

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on the 13th

low grove Oct 5, 2020, 9:17 AM

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📎 video0.mov

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Daaamn!!! paladin

terse anvil Oct 5, 2020, 10:40 AM

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I really hope shadowlands hits the week before Christmas.. then my vacation will line up👌

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Regardless I guess I’ll have 19 days off with the game

spark niche Oct 5, 2020, 11:55 AM

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Same with the vacation

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would be great to have a lil time off to play release

low grove Oct 5, 2020, 12:19 PM

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@terse anvil i dont think so. Because blizz also gets days off for christmas. They have to work a lot when launch happens. A week isnt enough in my opinion. Their responsibilites, customer feedback etc. idk

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Tickets, in-game issues

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Mid nov is ok thats what i pray for 🤣

topaz sparrow Oct 5, 2020, 1:18 PM

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Whenever SL launches, it'll be 2 weeks before the raid opens, that's not gonna happen during christmas. Especially not mythic, so i'm not sure when they'll do it honestly. Feels like mid-nov is the most ideal launch window for it to be released provided they can get enough work done by then

soft flower Oct 5, 2020, 3:22 PM

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I say just release it next year

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Seems silly to just release it two weeks from original date

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Might as well just release it and just patch it two weeks later if that was the case

tropic trail Oct 5, 2020, 3:27 PM

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My money is on mid november early december, raid in January.

frozen stratus Oct 5, 2020, 3:28 PM

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Early january febraury raid

soft flower Oct 5, 2020, 3:41 PM

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I'm hoping January that's when I'll have more time off

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And have had my fill of new leveling system lol and warfront set

gaunt pulsar Oct 5, 2020, 4:04 PM

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They wont wait 6 weeks to open raid wth

frozen stratus Oct 5, 2020, 4:05 PM

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Launch in january raid in febraury

royal nebula Oct 5, 2020, 4:12 PM

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I'm sure it was hard enough for them to say they're delaying it - they already said EOY so I really doubt they'd have put that in unless they were super for reals serious this time.

frozen stratus Oct 5, 2020, 4:14 PM

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I doubt they actually know

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Id rather see a its ready when its ready approach

soft flower Oct 5, 2020, 4:17 PM

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I feel like with the new leveling system most people will have lots to do until xpac release

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The fact that every xpac ends at 50 means you can do endgame for just about any xpac so you can work on getting mogs for xpacs you never had a chance too even more so now that I can solo most xpacs raids and dungeons

deep pawn Oct 5, 2020, 5:01 PM

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you can still solo WoD content with ease and lots of legion at 50? Or is that gonna have to wait for us to be 60 to activate the scaling

soft flower Oct 5, 2020, 5:04 PM

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You can solo at 50

deep pawn Oct 5, 2020, 5:05 PM

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okay, I know legion caps at 45 currently.

soft flower Oct 5, 2020, 5:17 PM

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Legion you might need to be 60 but even at 50 you should be able to solo some content

frozen stratus Oct 5, 2020, 5:18 PM

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You should be able to solo a good deal

deep pawn Oct 5, 2020, 5:20 PM

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like it is now, awesome. Wasn't sure how the scaling worked currently

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WoD scares me a bit capping at 40 which is a bit shorter than the traditional 11 levels to activate the scaling

frozen stratus Oct 5, 2020, 5:20 PM

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Hmm they will likely change how that work

deep pawn Oct 5, 2020, 5:21 PM

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perhaps it'll be 6 now

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no, can't be that

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odds are they'll just code an exception in for WoD at level 50

soft flower Oct 5, 2020, 5:21 PM

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The xpac was likely delayed more so for scaling issues rather than the actual xpax

deep pawn Oct 5, 2020, 5:23 PM

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Classic, TBC, and Wrath all capping at level 30 is gonna mess with those level cap guilds

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or give them a ton more content

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who knows

frozen stratus Oct 5, 2020, 5:24 PM

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Level cap guilds?

deep pawn Oct 5, 2020, 5:24 PM

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there's people on live who exp cap their characters at certain expansion caps and go through the content in that era before moving on

frozen stratus Oct 5, 2020, 5:25 PM

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ToadallyWhat

terse anvil Oct 5, 2020, 7:19 PM

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Now they don’t have to worry

deep pawn Oct 6, 2020, 12:46 AM

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hah, don't portal to kun-lai as a monk

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streaming error

tiny stream Oct 6, 2020, 12:52 AM

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@deep pawn My first time leveling I did that.

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But I wish I didn't have to stop my progress to play through content. That's why this is better

deep pawn Oct 6, 2020, 12:55 AM

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I was just seeing what the buff is changed too, but I'm assuming the character is lost

dense plover Oct 6, 2020, 2:24 AM

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yes - pandaria is still broken

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its been broken for about a month

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i THINK its fixed on beta and they just havent backported the fix to ptr

soft flower Oct 6, 2020, 6:15 AM

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So can you go from 10-50 in outlands?

deep pawn Oct 6, 2020, 6:20 AM

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yep

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in chromie time at least

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otherwise it caps at 30

meager badger Oct 6, 2020, 7:29 AM

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@soft flower you can go from 10-50 in like pretty much anything

terse anvil Oct 6, 2020, 3:39 PM

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I really look forward to this...

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replaying old expansions but having them be relevant

tiny stream Oct 6, 2020, 4:52 PM

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How is Pandaria broken right now?

dense plover Oct 6, 2020, 4:56 PM

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causes you to DC and locks your character

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you just cant go there

frozen stratus Oct 6, 2020, 4:56 PM

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that is oof

tiny stream Oct 6, 2020, 5:02 PM

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Weird....

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Pandaria is one of the best expansions to play through again too.

frozen stratus Oct 6, 2020, 5:03 PM

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it probably has to do with a character state

dense plover Oct 6, 2020, 5:26 PM

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^ something is broken

terse anvil Oct 6, 2020, 6:17 PM

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they need to roll that fix over

deep pawn Oct 6, 2020, 6:29 PM

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I'll enjoy doing more than 2 zones of a certain expansion

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but sounds like you get up to maybe 3?

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haha

flint orbit Oct 6, 2020, 8:28 PM

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Do we get the scourge event on day 1 of pre patch or the week after?

deep pawn Oct 6, 2020, 8:30 PM

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We don't know yet

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It'll be 3-4 weeks before expansion launch

terse anvil Oct 6, 2020, 8:34 PM

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They will put it off till closer to launch

minor cove Oct 6, 2020, 8:37 PM

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Anyone know if archeology and chromie time are fixed yet?

ivory meadow Oct 6, 2020, 11:49 PM

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📎 unknown.png

tropic trail Oct 6, 2020, 11:50 PM

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ope

deep pawn Oct 7, 2020, 12:00 AM

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finally

upper lantern Oct 7, 2020, 12:16 AM

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nice

bitter pewter Oct 7, 2020, 3:03 AM

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Anybody know the required level to start the green fire quest for warlocks come level squish?

soft flower Oct 7, 2020, 6:55 AM

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Shitt I need to make a hunter again

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I'm gonna piss off lots of rogues

tight ferry Oct 7, 2020, 7:08 AM

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Well yeah you got a good matchup against one.

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Personally don't think being tracked is something I care about in pvp. Also cloak of shadows.

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Rogues don't get more than 2 opportunities to make impact in pvp

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So hunters mark has no impact on the outcome of matches.

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At least not as much as it suggests it has.

tropic trail Oct 7, 2020, 9:50 AM

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How long does lvling take with heirlooms + the 100% buff + the 10% exp drink?

strange falcon Oct 7, 2020, 9:51 AM

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the 100% buff wont be in the prepatch

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10% exp drink i think you mean the bfa potion

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people have reported the new leveling taking from 6 to 12 hrs

tropic trail Oct 7, 2020, 9:53 AM

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But blizzard sayed the 100% buff will stay as sl is delayed

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through all oktober

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6 hours wow

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thats fast

strange falcon Oct 7, 2020, 9:54 AM

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i think that may have been the repbuff

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the 100% is to account for how fast the new leveling is

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so if you have new leveling in prepatch

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you shouldnt have the 100% too

deep pawn Oct 7, 2020, 5:27 PM

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I hope the 100% buff isn't in prepatch haha.

frozen stratus Oct 7, 2020, 5:27 PM

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the rep buff?

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or the exp buff?

deep pawn Oct 7, 2020, 5:28 PM

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Exp

frozen stratus Oct 7, 2020, 5:28 PM

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thats going away im pretty sure

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its just supposed to make leveling time similar to what it is on prepatch

dense plover Oct 7, 2020, 5:31 PM

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^

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only the rep buff is staying

deep pawn Oct 7, 2020, 5:31 PM

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Since prepatch is still going to be faster than right now haha

frozen stratus Oct 7, 2020, 5:31 PM

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yes

deep pawn Oct 7, 2020, 5:32 PM

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I was going slow and still getting a level every 10-15 minutes.

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That doesn't include doing dungeons with their quests

tight ferry Oct 7, 2020, 6:46 PM

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Yeah that slows down past 80

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Still gonna push see if I can hit 120 before prepatch

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Just need to do 36 more levels in 6 days.

sturdy bane Oct 7, 2020, 7:01 PM

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10-50 is going to be fast? i hope it doesnt take like 4 hours to reach 50.

tight ferry Oct 7, 2020, 7:02 PM

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It takes around 9

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But 50 is the current 120

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So 9 is perfectly fine

sturdy bane Oct 7, 2020, 7:03 PM

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yep

dry junco Oct 7, 2020, 11:55 PM

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the fastest a streamer did 1-50 was 3 hours i believe nad 1-60 was like between 7-9

tropic trail Oct 8, 2020, 4:19 AM

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look forward to battling some dirty alliance this coming tuesday

errant wraith Oct 8, 2020, 9:01 AM

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do we know what ilvl is going to be dropped during the event?

deep pawn Oct 8, 2020, 9:08 AM

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Same as normal raid

soft flower Oct 8, 2020, 1:22 PM

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any prepatch exclusive mogs?

upper lantern Oct 8, 2020, 1:30 PM

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I think the mogs are variants of the Warfront sets, not sure though

soft flower Oct 8, 2020, 1:34 PM

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i would love thatt

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the warfront sets are badass but such a pain to farm

tropic trail Oct 8, 2020, 2:14 PM

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i heared you can transmog two onehanders on two handers in sl?

soft flower Oct 8, 2020, 2:17 PM

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you mean for warriors?

tropic trail Oct 8, 2020, 2:19 PM

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no for exampel for survival hunter . Transmog a onehander in a twohander

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*twohander in a onehander

dense plover Oct 8, 2020, 3:29 PM

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No

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Whoever told you that is wrong

peak fern Oct 8, 2020, 3:42 PM

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fake news

signal bone Oct 8, 2020, 4:11 PM

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the mogs are the weaksauce version of the warfront sets from arathi

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but you can get the darkshore weapon appearences from nathanos

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which is good because those are a PITA to get

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still need the shields

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and staff

peak fern Oct 8, 2020, 4:29 PM

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can't wait to kick his a$$ on all my chars 😩👌

terse anvil Oct 8, 2020, 4:47 PM

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after losing power ?

signal bone Oct 8, 2020, 5:21 PM

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blizz should add world-bosses that are mythic difficulty

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right now they're jokes

tropic trail Oct 8, 2020, 5:27 PM

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I agree, current world bosses need to give guaranteed rewards and also be of actual difficulty.

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Right now there's no real excitement seeing one up

errant hinge Oct 8, 2020, 5:45 PM

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It would be cool having difficult world bosses

terse anvil Oct 8, 2020, 6:48 PM

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gotta make sure the lfr peeps can win lol

signal bone Oct 8, 2020, 7:02 PM

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at the very least have heroic level difficulty - would be cool to see them bring back challenge mode stuff with world bosses using the environment.

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I think the problem is if you have 40 people zerging a boss, you can't really react to mechanics

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so they would have to find a way to limit it

terse anvil Oct 8, 2020, 7:34 PM

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mop's world bosses were fairly strong for awhile

errant wraith Oct 8, 2020, 7:37 PM

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Why don't the skills give off light with rtx on

tropic trail Oct 8, 2020, 7:37 PM

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Because it's RTX shadows

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Not RTX lighting

errant wraith Oct 8, 2020, 7:38 PM

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Do you get what you just said

tropic trail Oct 8, 2020, 7:38 PM

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Bruh

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https://www.wowhead.com/news=317555/ray-tracing-shadows-now-enabled-on-the-world-of-warcraft-shadowlands-beta

Wowhead

Ray Tracing Shadows Now Enabled on the World of Warcraft Shadowland...

After months of anticipation, Ray Tracing Shadows is finally enabled on the World of Warcraft Shadowlands beta, providing enhanced shadows.

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Ray tracing shadows

errant wraith Oct 8, 2020, 7:38 PM

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It's rtx shaders this includes but not limited to rays... Ray tracing... Real time ray tracing

tropic trail Oct 8, 2020, 7:38 PM

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Ray tracing is multiple things

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Its not a ray tracing shader

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Its ray tracing shadows

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That is the final answer

errant wraith Oct 8, 2020, 7:39 PM

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Shadows also means there needs to be light shafts to form a shadow

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And there's no shadows anyways it's barely noticeable

tropic trail Oct 8, 2020, 7:39 PM

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It means the existing lighting interacts better with the shadows engine

errant wraith Oct 8, 2020, 7:39 PM

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So what shadows

tropic trail Oct 8, 2020, 7:39 PM

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There is no enhanced lighting

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End of story

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Move on

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Or argue with Blizzard lmao

errant wraith Oct 8, 2020, 7:40 PM

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Rtx is ray tracing which means one thing you can look up the technical definition

tropic trail Oct 8, 2020, 7:40 PM

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🤦

errant wraith Oct 8, 2020, 7:40 PM

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This is just a pony way to say they have rtx

tropic trail Oct 8, 2020, 7:40 PM

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It doesnt mean one thing you dolt

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Ray tracing is a suite of features

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Many of which or one of which can be enabled

errant wraith Oct 8, 2020, 7:41 PM

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_RTX

Nvidia RTX

Nvidia RTX is a graphics rendering development platform created by Nvidia, primarily aimed at enabling real time ray tracing. Historically, ray tracing had been reserved to non-real time applications (like CGI in visual effects for movies and in photorealistic renderings), wit...

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Yep

tropic trail Oct 8, 2020, 7:42 PM

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Dude

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I cant even with you lol

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AI-accelerated features (NGX)

Asset formats (USD and MDL)

Rasterization including advanced shaders

Raytracing via OptiX, Microsoft DXR and Vulkan

Simulation tools:

CUDA 10

Flex

PhysX

errant wraith Oct 8, 2020, 7:42 PM

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Even your argument makes no sense cause there's no new shadows

tropic trail Oct 8, 2020, 7:43 PM

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Yes there are

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There are literal compare and contrast pictures on Wowhead

frozen stratus Oct 8, 2020, 7:43 PM

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So do you know how light works

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in real life

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kid

errant wraith Oct 8, 2020, 7:43 PM

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No there's not I've had live and rtx open at the same time in the same area

frozen stratus Oct 8, 2020, 7:43 PM

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so heres the deal right

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you can use ray tracing to render a lot

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NOT just light

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light is SUPER intensive to render with raytracing

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we're just not there yet

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however you can use some tricks and get shadows to work very efficiently using raytracing

errant wraith Oct 8, 2020, 7:44 PM

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Works in all other games saying the have rtx even battlefield

frozen stratus Oct 8, 2020, 7:44 PM

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the new consoles

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use these tricks

tropic trail Oct 8, 2020, 7:44 PM

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📎 968246.jpg 📎 968247.jpg

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Study them cus ya wrong

frozen stratus Oct 8, 2020, 7:44 PM

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they don't do full raytracing

tropic trail Oct 8, 2020, 7:44 PM

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WoW didnt advertise ray tracing

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It advertised ray traced shadows

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Which it now has

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Ignorance doesn't make you right

frozen stratus Oct 8, 2020, 7:44 PM

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which is raytracing lol

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like its just using it as a tool for one part

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they'll do lighting eventually

errant wraith Oct 8, 2020, 7:45 PM

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Works in eso as well

frozen stratus Oct 8, 2020, 7:45 PM

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probably when the 6080 comes out

tropic trail Oct 8, 2020, 7:45 PM

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Ray tracing in the way people imagine is the entire suite of tools you have with it

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WoW only uses the ray traced shadows aspect of it

frozen stratus Oct 8, 2020, 7:45 PM

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like the consoles advertise raytracing dont they?

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but they made it clear they're mostly using it for shadows and some lighting effects

tropic trail Oct 8, 2020, 7:46 PM

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Yes

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📎 968244.jpg 📎 968245.jpg

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@errant wraith

terse anvil Oct 8, 2020, 7:46 PM

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the before and after make me not want to turn it on and hurt fps lol

tropic trail Oct 8, 2020, 7:46 PM

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Ray traced shadows

errant wraith Oct 8, 2020, 7:46 PM

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Looks like you took two of the same pictures

frozen stratus Oct 8, 2020, 7:47 PM

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damn

tropic trail Oct 8, 2020, 7:47 PM

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laughscreech

frozen stratus Oct 8, 2020, 7:47 PM

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its a huge diff

tropic trail Oct 8, 2020, 7:47 PM

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Dude dyre i cant

frozen stratus Oct 8, 2020, 7:47 PM

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it is though ano

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like the diff between rtx on and off is big

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lmao

errant wraith Oct 8, 2020, 7:47 PM

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It isn't lol

tropic trail Oct 8, 2020, 7:47 PM

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Are you blind

terse anvil Oct 8, 2020, 7:47 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nASCkfCqYLc

YouTube

Hazelnuttygames

Ray Traced Shadows in Shadowlands - WoW Ray Tracing Demo

Ray Tracing is coming to World of Warcraft in WoW: Shadowlands! Ray-Traced Shadows are a new advanced graphics option available in Shadowlands, bringing more detailed and realistic shadows to World of Warcraft graphics. This WoW Ray Tracing shadows demo looks at before and aft...

▶ Play video

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she highlights this feature

tropic trail Oct 8, 2020, 7:48 PM

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📎 20201008_144747.jpg 📎 20201008_144800.jpg

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How blind are you lmao

frozen stratus Oct 8, 2020, 7:48 PM

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the shadows are softer and more undefined

terse anvil Oct 8, 2020, 7:48 PM

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I feel like you can notice it more on character faces

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like in the video lol

tropic trail Oct 8, 2020, 7:48 PM

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You def can

frozen stratus Oct 8, 2020, 7:49 PM

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ye

tropic trail Oct 8, 2020, 7:49 PM

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Oh look he disappeared

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Cant even admit he's wrong after memeing on blizz and insisting we didnt know what we were talking about

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'They're the same picture!'

strange falcon Oct 8, 2020, 7:52 PM

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"corporate wants you to find the differences between those two pictures"

frozen stratus Oct 8, 2020, 7:52 PM

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@strange falcon

tropic trail Oct 8, 2020, 7:52 PM

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Lmfao dafire

strange falcon Oct 8, 2020, 7:52 PM

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i know my memes u.u

tropic trail Oct 8, 2020, 7:53 PM

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Same dude who said dailies were bad game design though

terse anvil Oct 8, 2020, 7:53 PM

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What would you do lol

errant wraith Oct 8, 2020, 7:53 PM

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The pictures I don't see it at all but zoom in the video I did I also saw the animation frame drop

tropic trail Oct 8, 2020, 7:53 PM

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Yeah frames drop in RTX

terse anvil Oct 8, 2020, 7:54 PM

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it will take a few updates to get it better optimized

tropic trail Oct 8, 2020, 7:54 PM

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That's the drawback of the suite

errant wraith Oct 8, 2020, 7:54 PM

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This is only for pictures but lots of games came out with it and over time fine tuned it so it was better fps, it's not a noticeable difference and I bet sucks in dungeons and kills pcs in raids

tropic trail Oct 8, 2020, 7:55 PM

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... okay?

errant wraith Oct 8, 2020, 7:56 PM

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I like the eso add-on for ray tracing better it actually adds lights this is just focusing in on a shadow and from what I can tell just character model shadows

tropic trail Oct 8, 2020, 7:56 PM

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That's what was advertised yes

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Give it time and lighting will probably be introduced too

terse anvil Oct 8, 2020, 7:59 PM

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where is the I and S @frozen stratus

frozen stratus Oct 8, 2020, 7:59 PM

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rooCookiePing

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there

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fixed

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@terse anvil does that satisfy you?

terse anvil Oct 8, 2020, 8:12 PM

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It actually crushed my hopes

frozen stratus Oct 8, 2020, 8:15 PM

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does this help

terse anvil Oct 8, 2020, 8:31 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/lilo-and-stitch-heartbroken-love-sad-rain-gif-4320941

Tenor

tear

▶ Play video

foggy abyss Oct 9, 2020, 5:14 AM

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Oh Void elves have the Belf DK skins

deep pawn Oct 9, 2020, 7:04 AM

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it's going to suck during pre-patch not being able to get Azerite from m+

foggy abyss Oct 9, 2020, 7:13 AM

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Good

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fuck Azerite

graceful echo Oct 9, 2020, 7:44 AM

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Heyhey . Does anyone know if you can phase out of chromies lvling phase? As far as I know it exists.. and I'm curious because of RP purpose with low-level characters

meager pilot Oct 9, 2020, 9:30 AM

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Last I heard is you can talk to her again and "switch" expansion phase. I don't know if you can opt yourself out mid-way

graceful echo Oct 9, 2020, 11:00 AM

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Ouhouh. I'll hope.. because .. forcing ppl to do full lvl pve (12-24 hours playtime speedlvling) is.. well... Meh

strange falcon Oct 9, 2020, 11:08 AM

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apparently fastest speedleveling in the ptr

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is 6hrs

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https://twitter.com/DesMephisto/status/1314458717019013125?s=19 @graceful echo

DesMephisto (World of Mages) (@DesMephisto)

Blizzard tried to kill the speed level,

But the DesMephisto was far too strong.

Likes

221

graceful echo Oct 9, 2020, 11:49 AM

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😆

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It's after the need?

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Nerf

strange falcon Oct 9, 2020, 11:57 AM

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yes

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though he only reached lvl 50 in 6hr

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not lvl 60

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so nerf worked

upper lantern Oct 9, 2020, 12:03 PM

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hmm. how long is leveling to 50 supposed to take now, for people who aren't desmephisto?

strange falcon Oct 9, 2020, 12:05 PM

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around 10hrs maybe

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prob 8

cedar seal Oct 9, 2020, 12:58 PM

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Hi there

I have a "dumb" question

At what specific hour will the pre-patch be launched on the 13?

strange falcon Oct 9, 2020, 1:00 PM

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dont think it was specified,but it's most probably reset time

cedar seal Oct 9, 2020, 1:00 PM

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Reset time is happening on wednesday where i'm living

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3AM CEST

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Then it would mean 3AM CEST on the 14th of October?

strange falcon Oct 9, 2020, 1:02 PM

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possibly

proper scarab Oct 9, 2020, 1:12 PM

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is it me or visions are easier on ptr? mmm

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I need them anyway, even after patch, I want the backpack 😛

strange falcon Oct 9, 2020, 1:13 PM

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they probably nerfed them to account for corruption being gone

proper scarab Oct 9, 2020, 1:13 PM

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I agreee

frozen stratus Oct 9, 2020, 4:58 PM

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anyone here up for minmaxing some powerleveling ideas on ptr

tropic trail Oct 9, 2020, 5:24 PM

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Just play WoD

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Ez

frozen stratus Oct 9, 2020, 5:24 PM

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nah

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yes that does work

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but of course I wanna test other stuff

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to see if it need nerf

tropic trail Oct 9, 2020, 5:25 PM

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I think monks might need to get nerfed if Transcendence keeps being 50% exp

frozen stratus Oct 9, 2020, 5:26 PM

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like the quest buff?

tropic trail Oct 9, 2020, 5:26 PM

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Check out the Practice Makes Perfect daily at the Peak

frozen stratus Oct 9, 2020, 5:26 PM

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pretty sure it was 10%

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chef_thonk

tropic trail Oct 9, 2020, 5:26 PM

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[Practice Makes Perfect]

haughty houndBOT Oct 9, 2020, 5:26 PM

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Practice Makes Perfect: Master Cheng - https://ptr.wowhead.com/quest=31840/practice-makes-perfect-master-cheng - PTR 9.0.1

Practice Makes Perfect: Master Cheng

frozen stratus Oct 9, 2020, 5:26 PM

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its rested exp now

tropic trail Oct 9, 2020, 5:26 PM

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Oooooo

frozen stratus Oct 9, 2020, 5:26 PM

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not very useful

tropic trail Oct 9, 2020, 5:27 PM

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That's nice tho

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Whenever you don't feel like leveling, just leave your character in town and when you come back, do the daily

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Ez ze

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It's free real estate for procrastinators

frozen stratus Oct 9, 2020, 5:28 PM

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true

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but I wanna test sped

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freneticspeed

random apex Oct 9, 2020, 5:28 PM

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hello every one

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is there any mistweaver monk availlable , i have a small question

strange falcon Oct 9, 2020, 5:34 PM

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Whenever you don't feel like leveling, just leave your character in town and when you come back, do the daily
that's literally what the new heirloom 6set is about

dense plover Oct 9, 2020, 6:28 PM

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I mean - rested xp is still worth something

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It’s just a lot less

deep pawn Oct 9, 2020, 7:42 PM

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Rested exp with heirlooms is nice

fading girder Oct 9, 2020, 7:45 PM

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you do realize that your other alts all gain rest while you level one character? XD

dense plover Oct 9, 2020, 9:07 PM

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Yes, the main problem is that if you start an alt and level it to 50 without resting, the heirloom and monk changes are useless

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Also they were originally going to get rid of or reduce the number of upgrade levels and they reverted that, so now you need to upgrade them 4 times for 1-50 even though they also nerfed the stats of those pieces

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Heirlooms are very mediocre now

untold hinge Oct 9, 2020, 9:21 PM

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What's your opinion about ret Paladins? They gonna be good?

tropic trail Oct 9, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Same problem as they've had for years. Terrible mobility, no spell defense, and their damage outside of CDs is abysmal

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They do insane burst but that's likely to be nerfed

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But I'm still maining it in Shadowlands, so ;D

errant wraith Oct 9, 2020, 10:50 PM

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Paladins have better mobility then warlocks do though holy moly warlocks are slow... Or maybe I'm just so used to resto shaman with ghost wolf

untold hinge Oct 9, 2020, 10:58 PM

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Warlock a think have teleport, gate but also root, fear, coil, stun and kinda hard to reach

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pala have lame horse, and hoj, also freedom(pvp talent) for short speed boost

tropic trail Oct 9, 2020, 11:03 PM

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Quick question about Chromie Time

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If a Character is already in a campaign leveling up and prepatch drops will they be in that campaign or will they be in BfA?

frozen stratus Oct 9, 2020, 11:04 PM

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they aren't "campaigns" really

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like its not exactly a character state

tropic trail Oct 9, 2020, 11:05 PM

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Ahh

frozen stratus Oct 9, 2020, 11:05 PM

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you'll just be wherever you are with whatever quests you have

tropic trail Oct 9, 2020, 11:05 PM

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Cool

frozen stratus Oct 9, 2020, 11:05 PM

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you could and should go back to orgrimmar and talk to chromie for whatever

dense plover Oct 9, 2020, 11:05 PM

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Eh

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I wouldn’t

frozen stratus Oct 9, 2020, 11:05 PM

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why not?

dense plover Oct 9, 2020, 11:06 PM

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If you are an existing character, going to start chromie time will get you thrown around and you’ll spend at least an hour traveling back and forth between a bunch of different areas

frozen stratus Oct 9, 2020, 11:06 PM

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the zones don't scale unless you talk to chromie?

dense plover Oct 9, 2020, 11:06 PM

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They scale to their expac, but chromie also flags some quest stuff and makes each zone scale different

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Let’s say you’re in the middle of wrath - level like 60-something

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Right now

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If you go talk to chromie once prepatch drops you might be locked out of some of the higher end zones that you were actively questing in

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IE stormpeaks or something

frozen stratus Oct 9, 2020, 11:08 PM

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does it reset the questlines?

dense plover Oct 9, 2020, 11:08 PM

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Which means all the quests you have are now worthless, and you have to do the storyline in a different zone which you might have possibly already finished

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I do not think it does

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That’s why you should not do it unless the character has not done the expac you are choosing, or is below current level 60 or ideally, below 20

frozen stratus Oct 9, 2020, 11:09 PM

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I think it just depends on what you wanna do

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cause like for me unless the character was already past wod or in wod i'd go and do wod

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but that's just me

deep pawn Oct 9, 2020, 11:42 PM

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I have a bunch of chars that are 110 currently I'll just do half a bfa zone on each of them

frozen stratus Oct 9, 2020, 11:42 PM

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thats pog

deep pawn Oct 9, 2020, 11:43 PM

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I mean they'll be level 45 on Tuesday

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it's alts from legion when I did 36/36 mage tower

tropic trail Oct 10, 2020, 1:07 AM

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These buffs to fire mages should've only gone through the beta not the PTR

frozen stratus Oct 10, 2020, 1:10 AM

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why wouldnt they have them on ptr?

tropic trail Oct 10, 2020, 2:18 AM

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They're still very good without corruptions since we still have essences and azerite traits. No corruptions brings Fire Mages back to how they were in Eternal Palace but better because of these buffs.

meager badger Oct 10, 2020, 8:10 AM

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any midnight prepatch hypers in chat

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poggies

fading girder Oct 10, 2020, 8:59 AM

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prepatch in 3 days! pepe

📎 unknown.png

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better?

torpid pebble Oct 10, 2020, 9:40 AM

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Do we know when the pre patch will be live?

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So i mean with the server restart or the weekly reset

tropic trail Oct 10, 2020, 9:41 AM

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13th

severe gull Oct 10, 2020, 9:43 AM

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3 or so days

strange falcon Oct 10, 2020, 9:58 AM

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Same problem as they've had for years. Terrible mobility, no spell defense, and their damage outside of CDs is abysmal
prot has "blessing of spellwarding" or something,but ye,after the burst dmg increase i havent heard any rets complaining

tropic trail Oct 10, 2020, 12:52 PM

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I certainly have. It's a brewing discourse in the class community as well.

meager badger Oct 10, 2020, 2:55 PM

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since f2p players can go to level 20 right now in retail, how far can you level without a sub in pre patch leveling?

tropic trail Oct 10, 2020, 2:58 PM

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That's a great question tbh

strange falcon Oct 10, 2020, 3:37 PM

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apparently it's not getting changed from 20

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so far

dense plover Oct 10, 2020, 3:52 PM

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Yep, still 20

strange falcon Oct 10, 2020, 3:56 PM

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ay peach is here

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have you checked out #beta-shadowlands

proper scarab Oct 10, 2020, 6:01 PM

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You playing only f2p, @meager badger ?

meager badger Oct 10, 2020, 6:02 PM

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no lol

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just wondering

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some friends want to try it but dont wanna spend money on a sub

frozen stratus Oct 10, 2020, 6:04 PM

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I mean if you use gold to pay sub you are free to play

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its technically free

terse anvil Oct 10, 2020, 6:07 PM

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No lie. I took two weeks off at BFA launch.. and the gold I made on Darkmoon decks alone carried my sub for 6 months

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planning to do the same this go around lol

fading girder Oct 10, 2020, 6:18 PM

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@frozen stratus then the f changes to Farm

terse anvil Oct 10, 2020, 6:20 PM

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What is the word on using ICC to gear alts... I feel like they should open this up before the patch events...

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because greed

frozen stratus Oct 10, 2020, 6:20 PM

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lmao

terse anvil Oct 10, 2020, 6:20 PM

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I mean would it hurt anything lol

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heroic guilds can still get better loot... but common person can get norm raid gear via ICC

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its something to do

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without the scourge being little shits

dense plover Oct 10, 2020, 6:45 PM

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Prepatch event is NOT for leveling

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This is not the legion prepatch event

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Leveling is redone in the prepatch with the fastest you can go being about 6 hours and the average player getting about 8-9 hours using Warlords for alts

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BfA is about 12-14

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Legion prepatch leveling was around 10-14 hours so it’s not necessary to have a leveling “event”

meager badger Oct 10, 2020, 6:56 PM

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i mean

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the event isnt for leveling

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but people willl definitely play majority for leveling

terse anvil Oct 10, 2020, 7:11 PM

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I would be doing it for gear not level lol

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gearing them alts

meager badger Oct 10, 2020, 7:34 PM

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why would u worry about gear in prepatch?

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when any gear anyone has now is going to become irellevant when shadowlands drops

frail sandal Oct 10, 2020, 7:35 PM

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Im about to try out Priest and want to have gear to try the Character and l2p mostly

meager badger Oct 10, 2020, 7:36 PM

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if u waqnna try a new class

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just wait for shadowlands

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and just level it to 50 within a day or 2

frail sandal Oct 10, 2020, 7:36 PM

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Isnt lvling the same with prepatch?

meager badger Oct 10, 2020, 7:36 PM

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leveling will be like 60% faster in prepatch then it is currently

frail sandal Oct 10, 2020, 7:37 PM

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Ok i thought lvling is already exactly the same as in SL just with Max lvl 50

meager badger Oct 10, 2020, 7:37 PM

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oh wait

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im dumb

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i meant

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wait for prepatch

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to try a new character

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Sadge

frail sandal Oct 10, 2020, 7:38 PM

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Ok thx then. Thats what im about to do

terse anvil Oct 10, 2020, 7:38 PM

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I can guarantee that having decent gear will make leveling much easier than hitting SL with a fresh 120

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that is like 280 il compared to 465

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my fresh 120 has 80k hp lol

frail sandal Oct 10, 2020, 7:38 PM

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Wont be funny to learn a healer when everyone is geared and bored

meager badger Oct 10, 2020, 7:39 PM

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i mean

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by level 52 ur gear will mostlikely be replaced

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also

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if u need help leveling to 60 in general thats kinda yikes

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its just leveling

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doesnt require much skill

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or good gear

royal nebula Oct 10, 2020, 7:41 PM

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leveling during the first few weeks is also going to be made easier thanks to open tapping. As a hpriest, I just run around holy nova'ing in dense quest areas.

terse anvil Oct 10, 2020, 7:41 PM

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This is true.

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rain of fire spam here

royal nebula Oct 10, 2020, 7:41 PM

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Follow a DH or DK - be like the tiny fish cleaning the teeth of the big sharks

meager badger Oct 10, 2020, 7:44 PM

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even if ur playing a spec that is bad solo and dont wanna switch there will probably be countless groups just for leveling

frail sandal Oct 10, 2020, 7:44 PM

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Open tapping?

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Im going to lvl disc

frozen stratus Oct 10, 2020, 7:44 PM

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imagine grouping up for leveling

meager badger Oct 10, 2020, 7:45 PM

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i can

terse anvil Oct 10, 2020, 7:45 PM

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I'll be alone

frozen stratus Oct 10, 2020, 7:45 PM

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im planning on leveling solo cause Idont trust anyone

meager badger Oct 10, 2020, 7:45 PM

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u share all xp from mobs and quest with party sync so

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4 people =

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doing quests 4 times as quick

frozen stratus Oct 10, 2020, 7:45 PM

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yes but I dont have 3 people I trust to not slow me down

meager badger Oct 10, 2020, 7:45 PM

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i mean

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they would have to be

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ccing you

frozen stratus Oct 10, 2020, 7:45 PM

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no

meager badger Oct 10, 2020, 7:45 PM

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to slow you down

frozen stratus Oct 10, 2020, 7:45 PM

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they can just be slower players

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ive always run into that

meager badger Oct 10, 2020, 7:45 PM

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ok but how does that slkow u down

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u can still do the quest

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by urself

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and complete it

terse anvil Oct 10, 2020, 7:46 PM

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There is them slowing me down and I like to keep up on crafting and stuff so I can get in on that first launch gold making

frozen stratus Oct 10, 2020, 7:46 PM

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then im a zone ahead

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and I dont get xp fom them

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plus quests are the main source of xp

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not mobs

meager badger Oct 10, 2020, 7:46 PM

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all im saying is

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grouping up

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cant slow u down

frozen stratus Oct 10, 2020, 7:46 PM

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yes it can

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100%

meager badger Oct 10, 2020, 7:46 PM

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it cannot

frozen stratus Oct 10, 2020, 7:46 PM

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yes it can

meager badger Oct 10, 2020, 7:46 PM

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just not true

terse anvil Oct 10, 2020, 7:46 PM

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If you are waiting on people who afk

meager badger Oct 10, 2020, 7:47 PM

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thats u slowing u down

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if ur waiting

frozen stratus Oct 10, 2020, 7:47 PM

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yes but why would I be in a group then

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if Im always ahead ?

meager badger Oct 10, 2020, 7:47 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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im just syaing

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being in a group

frozen stratus Oct 10, 2020, 7:47 PM

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if im in ravendreath and their in fucking night fae shit

terse anvil Oct 10, 2020, 7:47 PM

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so eventually you out level the people you leave behind

meager badger Oct 10, 2020, 7:47 PM

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cant slow u down

frozen stratus Oct 10, 2020, 7:47 PM

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why even be in a group

meager badger Oct 10, 2020, 7:47 PM

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shrug

frozen stratus Oct 10, 2020, 7:47 PM

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cause you won't get xp from them anyways

terse anvil Oct 10, 2020, 7:47 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/ron-swanson-parks-and-rec-unlawful420-face-punch-gif-14692942

Tenor

frozen stratus Oct 10, 2020, 7:47 PM

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there's literally no point unless you are like right in line with eachother

meager badger Oct 10, 2020, 7:47 PM

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all i was pointing out was

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there is no wayu

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grouping

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can slow you down

frozen stratus Oct 10, 2020, 7:48 PM

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they are always a burden unless they are at your pace

meager badger Oct 10, 2020, 7:48 PM

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i mean

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regardless of what u say

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u cant change facts

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:lelw

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KEKW

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misspell Sadge

frozen stratus Oct 10, 2020, 7:48 PM

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you either be slower so you dont blast ahead or you're basically playing alone anyways

meager badger Oct 10, 2020, 7:49 PM

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facePalm

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are u delusional today or something dyre

frozen stratus Oct 10, 2020, 7:49 PM

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no fuck you

terse anvil Oct 10, 2020, 7:49 PM

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Riley trolling

meager badger Oct 10, 2020, 7:49 PM

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yall are trolling lol

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idk how this is so hard for u guys to understand

frozen stratus Oct 10, 2020, 7:49 PM

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no im not

meager badger Oct 10, 2020, 7:49 PM

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maybe saturdays are just not ur day

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go eat a snickers or something

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lo

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pepega as fuck in this chat rn

frozen stratus Oct 10, 2020, 7:50 PM

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unless Ihave people at my pace there is no reason

meager badger Oct 10, 2020, 7:50 PM

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ok i never said that wasnt true

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literally all i said was

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grouping up

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cannot slow down how fast u level up

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it cannot make it slower

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thats legit all ive been saying KEKW

frozen stratus Oct 10, 2020, 7:51 PM

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then why be in a group at all

terse anvil Oct 10, 2020, 7:51 PM

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So basically you are saying... you can level in a group but it wont slow you down.. however once you out pace the group you are no longer grouping you are now solo. I understand that you are using the fact that being in a group is not slowing you down. Which is true if you are out pacing the group it is technically not slowing you down.

frozen stratus Oct 10, 2020, 7:51 PM

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^

meager badger Oct 10, 2020, 7:51 PM

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again idk im just pointing out

frozen stratus Oct 10, 2020, 7:51 PM

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its just pointless

meager badger Oct 10, 2020, 7:51 PM

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for u sure

terse anvil Oct 10, 2020, 7:51 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/poopyhead-angry-gif-14691070

Tenor

frozen stratus Oct 10, 2020, 7:52 PM

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yes well I dont have anyone i'd want to level with in a quick way

terse anvil Oct 10, 2020, 7:53 PM

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I might be around Dyre if you want to give it ago however if you or I pause I expect you to carry on without me

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lol

frozen stratus Oct 10, 2020, 7:53 PM

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lmao thats fine

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ill be skipping all story though

terse anvil Oct 10, 2020, 7:54 PM

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ouch

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Maybe I'll get beta before then so I can skip it too

frozen stratus Oct 10, 2020, 7:56 PM

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im just going to read it once things are calmer

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so like much later on idk

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cause I know week 1 and 2 will be focused on gearing up for raid and earning money

meager badger Oct 10, 2020, 7:56 PM

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imagine caring about lore

frozen stratus Oct 10, 2020, 7:56 PM

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I do care about the lore

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just gold and raid are important

tropic trail Oct 10, 2020, 7:57 PM

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imagine playing an RPG and memeing on the lore

meager badger Oct 10, 2020, 7:57 PM

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mmorpg

frozen stratus Oct 10, 2020, 7:57 PM

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well yes cause i play the game part of it

meager badger Oct 10, 2020, 7:57 PM

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imagine caring about lore when you can just watch a nobbel video in bed

frozen stratus Oct 10, 2020, 7:57 PM

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lma o

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true

meager badger Oct 10, 2020, 7:57 PM

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cant wait to do the new raid with my guild

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we arent super try hard but were all fucking terrible

frozen stratus Oct 10, 2020, 7:58 PM

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I gotta start finding a guild

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ill start applying to them on tuesday I think

terse anvil Oct 10, 2020, 8:01 PM

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It is the best time to get one

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I have a schedule change before raid... and the options are : 1. What I want (keep the same raid times) 2. What the wife wants (a new weekend raiding guild)

meager badger Oct 10, 2020, 9:32 PM

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why are u even questioning what to do

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what ur wife wants is always the right option

terse anvil Oct 10, 2020, 10:31 PM

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but but my very successful am guild...

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you know how hard it is to find an AM guild.. and a good one at that!

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I would have to server transfer for the backup guild I found for weekend raiding.. yes an AM weekend guild.. pretty sure it is the only on period.

limpid spade Oct 11, 2020, 3:01 AM

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I find myself with tons of Echoes of Nyalotha

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will the only use for them on the prepatch be to buy vials?

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and catch up essences

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with the corruptions going away, should I just get tons of vials instead?

frozen stratus Oct 11, 2020, 3:02 AM

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vials of?

limpid spade Oct 11, 2020, 3:02 AM

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for visions

frozen stratus Oct 11, 2020, 3:02 AM

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oh

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one second

limpid spade Oct 11, 2020, 3:02 AM

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I'm talking about the currency used for buying corruptions

frozen stratus Oct 11, 2020, 3:02 AM

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yes I know

limpid spade Oct 11, 2020, 3:02 AM

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from MOTHER

frozen stratus Oct 11, 2020, 3:02 AM

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Im just trying to remember if theres another use

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probably just buy vials tbh

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or save them

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its not like they're being deleted

limpid spade Oct 11, 2020, 3:03 AM

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MOTHER gives vials, essences and corruptions

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corruptions are irrelevant and if the essences sold there are catch up material, guess it's just vision vials xD

frozen stratus Oct 11, 2020, 3:04 AM

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just save them tbh

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like use them for essences if you need on alts

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and for vials if you need them

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etc.

sharp wren Oct 11, 2020, 3:07 AM

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trying to launch ptr and i get this, does anyone know what i can do or just reinstall

📎 unknown.png

fading girder Oct 11, 2020, 3:20 AM

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did you just install or update?

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i had a different error when i copied wow onto this new drive, but restarting the computer helped the blizzard app figure out what it needed to do to accept the copied data

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so maybe try restarting

sharp wren Oct 11, 2020, 3:38 AM

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there was update, need to try that

sharp wren Oct 11, 2020, 3:54 AM

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still same message

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i try to scan and repair

tight ferry Oct 11, 2020, 3:59 AM

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Strange that it's only with ptr

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Try checking for gpu driver updates

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They did some shit in ptr that caused errors for me.

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Until I installed the latest gpu driver that wasn't even recommended

sharp wren Oct 11, 2020, 4:03 AM

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well there was one strange thing when i upgraded my pc, before it the ptr didn't whine about my graphics card but after it it said it's outdated

tight ferry Oct 11, 2020, 4:03 AM

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Yeah.

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I had good ol render issues an my gpu sounded like a jet

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But they always forget to tell ya that's alphas,betas and ptrs tend to fuck up hardware.

sharp wren Oct 11, 2020, 4:07 AM

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mm... my pc is saying that 1,5T isn't enough space 'free some space' -.-

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it seems scan and repair worked... yay, i can do my guild work again 🙂

tight ferry Oct 11, 2020, 4:13 AM

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Cool

minor cove Oct 11, 2020, 4:23 AM

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Can anyone link the covenant spreadsheet that’s best for each class / spec please ❤️

tight ferry Oct 11, 2020, 5:30 AM

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1zPuCAgFK44hi5RsHc06L_fg37ewogUFXYpnNA7Q566c/htmlview

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@minor cove

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Take it with a good ol container of salt tho

minor cove Oct 11, 2020, 5:35 AM

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@tight ferry ty

rotund totem Oct 11, 2020, 7:41 AM

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That sheet is so out of date it is literally all wrong lmfao

tropic trail Oct 11, 2020, 10:52 AM

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any sv hunters here ? 😄

plain vigil Oct 11, 2020, 10:54 AM

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Ay

tropic trail Oct 11, 2020, 10:57 AM

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@plain vigil do you think that the bow does too less dmg in the prepatch to use the range attacks for avoiding meele attacks

plain vigil Oct 11, 2020, 10:58 AM

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Which ability ?

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Cause arcane shot isn't supposed to be a survival spell past level 10

tropic trail Oct 11, 2020, 11:00 AM

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Yeah those ones . To jump back out of range and shoot with arrows

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So useless spells for me

plain vigil Oct 11, 2020, 11:02 AM

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You don't have to jump out of range

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They don't have a minimum range requirement

tropic trail Oct 11, 2020, 11:03 AM

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Yeah and that is the problem

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Sv hunters get spells they don't need

plain vigil Oct 11, 2020, 11:03 AM

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It's a nonissue

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The only ranged spells you have are serpent sting and kill shot

tropic trail Oct 11, 2020, 11:04 AM

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No

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You have arcane shot and the other shot

plain vigil Oct 11, 2020, 11:04 AM

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Then just don't use them in your rotation

tropic trail Oct 11, 2020, 11:04 AM

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And that one's are useless while priest and warri get usefully spells but I think you don't get what I want to say have a nice day

plain vigil Oct 11, 2020, 11:05 AM

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You're just not being clear

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"oh no I have abilities that I shouldn't use, whatever sh'all I do"

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Just

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Don't

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Use them

strange falcon Oct 11, 2020, 11:14 AM

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but "USELESS ABILITIES REEE"

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how are they going to survive

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you could argue hunter's mark is "useless ability" now too xd

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just dont use it

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And that one's are useless while priest and warri get usefully spells but I think you don't get what I want to say have a nice day
i get it,it's the age old thing that used to happen literally every expansion before wod(including mop)

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"they got ultra op fun abilities and i got shitty alter time bs that's useless"

tropic trail Oct 11, 2020, 11:24 AM

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"they got ultra op fun abilities and i got shitty alter time bs that's useless"
@strange falcon it is not the I totally dislike Hunter but for me it is difficult to see other classes getting strong abilittys and I just don't get anything usefull . :/ It is just not balanced . That is what I want to say . To say don't use the ability . Yes but why do I even have it than xD

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But I think blizzard will rework the Hunter (sv) one day . Couse it is really sad how they don't care about such a class with such great potential

strange falcon Oct 11, 2020, 11:45 AM

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Yes but why do I even have it than xD
a lot of abilities coming back in SL,were initially removed,FOR THAT EXACT REASON,

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but players wanted them back so bad

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blizz gave them back

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so

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

terse anvil Oct 11, 2020, 12:20 PM

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1E1TxEKvH6LoCUwhG1-8QQ4CikblmHaaBp-Ozr9ugQHw/edit#gid=467566319 this is the latest update

Google Docs

Covenants Abilities Sorted by Spec

Rankings

By: Harldan#2316 ,Kyrian,Necrolords,Night Fae,Venthyr,Notes,Key,BiS,Good,Mediocre,Bad,Trash
Thanks for pulling the ripcord Blizzard, now just make sure you balance stuff in time.,(Updated 10/9/20) Another Wednesday, another set of Beta changes. I've read through all ...

strange falcon Oct 11, 2020, 12:21 PM

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tierlists,wtf is this

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just go wherever you feel ez done,if people tell you "wtf are you doing on Kyrian rogue"

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you just join another group ez

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if you arent interested in mythic raids or m+20 there's no point to look at a tierlist

terse anvil Oct 11, 2020, 12:24 PM

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1V1uXHX5LX7eD0_CG_eoug1YwJl1HlnDlZCSZX8JlNAI/edit#gid=0 this one is yours @strange falcon

Google Docs

Covenant Abilites Sorted by Spec

Sheet1

Kyrian,Necrolords,Night Fae,Venthyr
#justplaythefuckinggame,for once lets stop beating the fun out of a game before it even has a chance to come out for gods sake
Blood DK,Play the Game,Play the Game,Play the Game,Play the Game,don't judge the game until you play it fo...

strange falcon Oct 11, 2020, 12:24 PM

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looks about right

atomic thorn Oct 11, 2020, 1:50 PM

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I want to jump to Affliction in Shadowlands, but I see that Dustro is the DPS king of the Warlock specs.

Will I not get groups if I'm not playing my best spec? 🤔

upper lantern Oct 11, 2020, 1:53 PM

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Tuning is still ongoing, I wouldn't be worried about it

atomic thorn Oct 11, 2020, 1:53 PM

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Awesome :)

peak fern Oct 11, 2020, 2:07 PM

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you can always play whatever you want and make your own groups

terse anvil Oct 11, 2020, 3:31 PM

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Aff is actually better for most the raid bosses its like 7-3 Aff Destro

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But honestly I played Ret for every tier even though it was considered bad lol

strange falcon Oct 11, 2020, 3:32 PM

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1V1uXHX5LX7eD0_CG_eoug1YwJl1HlnDlZCSZX8JlNAI/edit#gid=0
@atomic thorn this should answer it

Google Docs

Covenant Abilites Sorted by Spec

Sheet1

Kyrian,Necrolords,Night Fae,Venthyr
#justplaythefuckinggame,for once lets stop beating the fun out of a game before it even has a chance to come out for gods sake
Blood DK,Play the Game,Play the Game,Play the Game,Play the Game,don't judge the game until you play it fo...

terse anvil Oct 11, 2020, 3:33 PM

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lol

peak fern Oct 11, 2020, 3:33 PM

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I would react with this tbh

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if I could

foggy abyss Oct 11, 2020, 4:49 PM

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Meh bad tier list

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Doing more DPS still is meta Sadge

terse anvil Oct 11, 2020, 4:50 PM

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just wait for the guides a couple weeks after launch

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switch

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gg

strange falcon Oct 11, 2020, 4:59 PM

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just wait for the guides a couple weeks after launch
just change character every week

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ez fix

terse anvil Oct 11, 2020, 5:03 PM

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easier fix.. 4 of each class

strange falcon Oct 11, 2020, 5:05 PM

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nah that would imply the base class is always top tier

terse anvil Oct 11, 2020, 5:07 PM

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true I mean.. 4 survival hunters... puke

dense plover Oct 11, 2020, 5:08 PM

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or - ya know, who cares about being perfect? im playing necrolords for my main - brewmaster undead

terse anvil Oct 11, 2020, 5:08 PM

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the great one is typing

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30% more damage is why

strange falcon Oct 11, 2020, 5:09 PM

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1V1uXHX5LX7eD0_CG_eoug1YwJl1HlnDlZCSZX8JlNAI/edit#gid=0 @dense plover

Google Docs

Covenant Abilites Sorted by Spec

Sheet1

Kyrian,Necrolords,Night Fae,Venthyr
#justplaythefuckinggame,for once lets stop beating the fun out of a game before it even has a chance to come out for gods sake
Blood DK,Play the Game,Play the Game,Play the Game,Play the Game,don't judge the game until you play it fo...

dense plover Oct 11, 2020, 5:09 PM

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ah, see - thats what they are currently planning to fix

terse anvil Oct 11, 2020, 5:09 PM

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I need a huge Epeen

dense plover Oct 11, 2020, 5:09 PM

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ideally, if they fix it, itll be maybe 5% dps

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not 30

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they JUST started balancing

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and they purposefully delayed because of this kind of stuff

terse anvil Oct 11, 2020, 5:09 PM

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Legion had pretty good balance

dense plover Oct 11, 2020, 5:09 PM

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lol

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not at launch

terse anvil Oct 11, 2020, 5:09 PM

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true

dense plover Oct 11, 2020, 5:09 PM

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it was worse than SLs is looking to be

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mainly because of the combo of legendaries and artifacts

terse anvil Oct 11, 2020, 5:10 PM

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More systems in SL

dense plover Oct 11, 2020, 5:10 PM

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eh

strange falcon Oct 11, 2020, 5:10 PM

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"pretty good balance" looks at fire mage's pyroblast bracers legendary

dense plover Oct 11, 2020, 5:10 PM

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but they now know the problem points for a lot of those systems

strange falcon Oct 11, 2020, 5:10 PM

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🤔

terse anvil Oct 11, 2020, 5:11 PM

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yeah that is why they are reducing the soul binds effects

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reduce them down and beginning the tune

meager badger Oct 11, 2020, 5:18 PM

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ANY PREPATCH HYPERS IN CHAT

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hype

strange falcon Oct 11, 2020, 5:20 PM

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kommrade blob

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i like

meager badger Oct 11, 2020, 5:20 PM

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i literally

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cannot wait

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for prepatch

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i might be more hyped for prepatch than sl its self

errant hinge Oct 11, 2020, 5:23 PM

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I'm ready for the leveling changes it feels a lot better than it does on live

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feels bad going 20+ lvls getting nothing new

frozen stratus Oct 11, 2020, 5:24 PM

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Im hype for cn and thats it

strange falcon Oct 11, 2020, 5:26 PM

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well it's nice to be hyped

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just dont get too hyped for SL and get hit with expectations vs reality

frozen stratus Oct 11, 2020, 5:27 PM

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Well im only hype for cn

terse anvil Oct 11, 2020, 6:38 PM

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what is cn

frozen stratus Oct 11, 2020, 6:39 PM

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tier 26

terse anvil Oct 11, 2020, 6:46 PM

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ooohhh Nathria

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I am a huge fan of the raids.

frozen stratus Oct 11, 2020, 6:46 PM

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yes

terse anvil Oct 11, 2020, 6:46 PM

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I wish I didn't miss out on the ones I have when they were relevant

last condor Oct 11, 2020, 6:55 PM

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Which do you guys think will be the go-to expansion for leveling with chromie?

frozen stratus Oct 11, 2020, 6:55 PM

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w o d

last condor Oct 11, 2020, 6:57 PM

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You think? How come?

frozen stratus Oct 11, 2020, 6:58 PM

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its the fastest

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now

last condor Oct 11, 2020, 6:58 PM

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Ah, fair enough

frozen stratus Oct 11, 2020, 6:58 PM

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just quest density

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ease of quests

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navigation

last condor Oct 11, 2020, 6:58 PM

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I was thinking it'd be Legion or BFA just for the artifacts, but yeah that makes sense

frozen stratus Oct 11, 2020, 6:58 PM

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nah gear is never a problem

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well

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it is if you wanna do islands to level

last condor Oct 11, 2020, 6:59 PM

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I mean bein stronger does lead to things dying faster usually 😛

frozen stratus Oct 11, 2020, 6:59 PM

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you can always send alts gear

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I know des mephisto has been testing that iirc

last condor Oct 11, 2020, 7:00 PM

#

How does it compete with boosting strats?

frozen stratus Oct 11, 2020, 7:00 PM

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a lot of boost strats have been stomped

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idk we'll see

last condor Oct 11, 2020, 7:01 PM

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Wonder what level f2p accts will be locked at

frozen stratus Oct 11, 2020, 7:01 PM

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ive been told its 20 still

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but idk

last condor Oct 11, 2020, 7:01 PM

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hmm

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Twink boosting might still be a thing then

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lock someone at 20, get bis gear

dense plover Oct 11, 2020, 7:08 PM

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its 100% still 20

frozen stratus Oct 11, 2020, 7:08 PM

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aighty

dense plover Oct 11, 2020, 7:08 PM

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but you also cant do LFG and a bunch of other stuff

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a lot of that has been moved to level 50 req.

frozen stratus Oct 11, 2020, 7:09 PM

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do you think they'll push the mop fix to prepatch?

dense plover Oct 11, 2020, 7:09 PM

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Ion replied

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he said its fixed

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read latest news

frozen stratus Oct 11, 2020, 7:09 PM

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my bad

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I thought it was a dupe article so I ignored it

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lmao

shrewd glen Oct 11, 2020, 10:12 PM

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Thank you

feral belfry Oct 12, 2020, 12:48 AM

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Would this be considered a bug / overlooked or is there no proper scaling for level 50 characters?
https://i.imgur.com/NKFYV79.png

Imgur

frozen stratus Oct 12, 2020, 12:50 AM

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what level are you

feral belfry Oct 12, 2020, 12:50 AM

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50

frozen stratus Oct 12, 2020, 12:50 AM

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chromie is disabled at 50

feral belfry Oct 12, 2020, 12:50 AM

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That is silly

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so now I'm stuck 1 shotting / god mode?

frozen stratus Oct 12, 2020, 12:51 AM

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what

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what level is stuff for you

feral belfry Oct 12, 2020, 12:51 AM

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Grey

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lol

frozen stratus Oct 12, 2020, 12:51 AM

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so stuff still caps out

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so like TBC/Classic/Wotlk should be like level 30

feral belfry Oct 12, 2020, 12:52 AM

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Yeah that is so silly

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they added this entire scaling system and you can't enjoy old content without 1 shotting it lol

errant hinge Oct 12, 2020, 12:52 AM

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Think people were saying you’ve gotta turn off exp at 49 if you want to finish a whole expansions story

frozen stratus Oct 12, 2020, 12:52 AM

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you can party sync

feral belfry Oct 12, 2020, 12:52 AM

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hmm Thanks and Darn

errant hinge Oct 12, 2020, 12:53 AM

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And have somewhat of a challenge still

feral belfry Oct 12, 2020, 12:53 AM

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This a MMO not a MP Game 😛

frozen stratus Oct 12, 2020, 12:53 AM

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MP?

feral belfry Oct 12, 2020, 12:53 AM

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No one Teams up lol

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Multiplayer

frozen stratus Oct 12, 2020, 12:53 AM

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MMO means massively multiplayer online...

feral belfry Oct 12, 2020, 12:53 AM

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No Shit

frozen stratus Oct 12, 2020, 12:53 AM

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you have to team up to beat its challenges

feral belfry Oct 12, 2020, 12:53 AM

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And like I said no one teams up lol

frozen stratus Oct 12, 2020, 12:53 AM

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I team up all the fucking time

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M+, raid, torghast

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etc

feral belfry Oct 12, 2020, 12:53 AM

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Hi I like to do Lore Master more Legit please follow me the next 3 months lol

fading girder Oct 12, 2020, 1:21 AM

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you can party sync
@frozen stratus i think PS won't actually work for the context

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it resets if the party changes at all

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so you'd have to do all of a zone in one go with no disconnects or party changes

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i thought i could get myself to do the suramar questline by using party sync so the xp would be an incentive, but no 😦

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(on a 111 on retail)

tropic trail Oct 12, 2020, 2:15 AM

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And like I said no one teams up lol

Do dungeons or PvP. Questing is a single-player experience.

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Though can just as well be a MP experience.

deep pawn Oct 12, 2020, 3:39 AM

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does Pre-patch finally remove Herald of the Titans?

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I have no idea where I read that residuum was going away with pre-patch but apparently that's not true anymore

final lily Oct 12, 2020, 3:47 AM

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Can Ret Pally use a shield with all thier spells ?

tropic trail Oct 12, 2020, 3:48 AM

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No

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They can't use Divine Storm/Blade of Justice/Templar's Verdict

tropic trail Oct 12, 2020, 9:24 AM

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will fury warrior do more dmg with twohanders than onehanders? in prepatch?

torpid pebble Oct 12, 2020, 9:45 AM

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@final lily They cant but it would be really cool

last condor Oct 12, 2020, 1:14 PM

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HOA will be unobtainable, right? Getting my leveling gear enchanted now~

meager badger Oct 12, 2020, 1:17 PM

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ANY PREPATCH HYPERS IN THIS MF CHAT ROOM

terse anvil Oct 12, 2020, 1:19 PM

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Riley put your boner away

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still have like 33 ish hours left to go 😦

meager badger Oct 12, 2020, 1:20 PM

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but its tommorrow

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and thats pog champion

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unfortunately my sleep schedule is so fucked it starts right as i would normally be going to bed but i will fucking fix that

upper lantern Oct 12, 2020, 1:30 PM

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prepatch ftw

terse anvil Oct 12, 2020, 1:37 PM

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I am excited.. hoping they finish early lol

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which is doubtful.

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My sleep schedule is unfortunately the opposite.. I will try to sleep in and will still get up at like 545am

last condor Oct 12, 2020, 1:38 PM

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I'll probably stay up tonight & sleep through maint

terse anvil Oct 12, 2020, 1:41 PM

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I wish my work would let me come in... instead I'll be watching that launcher lol

strange falcon Oct 12, 2020, 2:35 PM

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i am still very confused if riley is a grill

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or a buoy

last condor Oct 12, 2020, 3:43 PM

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Why would that matter lol

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How do you get heirlooms on the ptr? do you have to re-buy them?

terse anvil Oct 12, 2020, 3:48 PM

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same way I believe

frozen stratus Oct 12, 2020, 3:50 PM

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Ptr you got to copy account info

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If your heirlooms still dont show up on ptr then go rebuy them

frank fractal Oct 12, 2020, 5:40 PM

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This is a dumb question, but just to confirm: in the 9.0 patch all pre-shadowlands content scales to level, so I could level what is currently 110-120 in old expansions instead of bfa if I wanted to, right?

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Or does it halt the scaling at BFA levels and force you thru BFA questing to hit 120/50

tropic trail Oct 12, 2020, 5:41 PM

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The former

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You can do 10-50 in any expansion

frank fractal Oct 12, 2020, 5:42 PM

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Lovely, thank you very much! 😊👍

deep pawn Oct 12, 2020, 6:34 PM

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The scaling is only in chromie time which you enter in capital cities

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Odds are 45-50 will be an hour tops though

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And why would the heart of Azeroth be unobtainable. The levelling experience won't direct you to it, but my understanding is it's not being removed