#beta-ptr-spoilers

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strange falcon
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try using repair tool,or re-installing

dull osprey
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@keen bloom do you have addons

limpid spade
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is there a chance for them to release the prepatch on the 16th without any notice?

mossy perch
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..no

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we've still got 2 shorts to go through; at the earliest it'll be the 22nd

limpid spade
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hope so

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cause I'm aiming to get 5 mask Org next week and 5 mask SW the week after

mossy perch
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they'll most likely give a weeks notice, i don't think it'll suddenly appear

limpid spade
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well if they announce tomorrow that one week later it's going away

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it's still bad for the 5mask achi

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then again it will be super weird to release the prepatch before the final short

tranquil steeple
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  • with giving a week's notice, after the last Afterlives short, ends up being 22nd, so it works out pretty well
dense plover
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Yeah, we won’t get a release without at least 1 week notice

limpid spade
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any word on tuning on prepatch when it goes live?

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some endgame mobs are kinda overtuned compared to live

night swift
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

opal crag
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Any word on mounts for pre patch or any stuff which are exclusive to pre patch ??

upper lantern
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I think some of the unused Warfront gear is available as prepatch event gear

opal crag
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Is it tier 3 unused gear? cuz that will be cool..

pulsar minnow
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Nah, just tier 1 unused

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It still looks good imo. The shoulders on the tier 1 in that color could work for a ton of different transmogs

limpid spade
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is Lucid Nightmare flying...intentional?

pulsar minnow
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Yes

tranquil steeple
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https://www.wowhead.com/news=314431/flying-unicorns-horse-ground-mounts-learn-to-fly-in-shadowlands

In the most recent Shadowlands build, all Courser, Nightmare, and Dreamrunner type horse mounts have been changed from ground mounts to flying ones! Most of these horned "unicorn" style mounts are older mounts, obtained from Legion and Battle for Azeroth content, though they include a couple placeholder mounts datamined from Shadowlands; either way it's a welcome change for anyone wishing to take their favorite horse mount to the skies.

tropic trail
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something about the release of Pre-Patch on live there is a buff that is until the end of the month so that might affect the prepatch release maybe until the 29th and not 22nd?

mossy perch
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we'll most likely get an announcement on the 22nd yeah

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since it's a week after the last animated short

sonic snow
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Any idea what the 4 hour maintenance is today?

pulsar minnow
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Just maintenance

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Maybe realm connections too or something

sonic snow
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Nothing exciting?

pulsar minnow
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No. We’re not getting pre-patch this week lol

mossy perch
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probably back-end stuff to prepare for expac / pre-patch

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and there's a bunch of realm connections going on as said

sonic snow
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Non realm connections might have slower maintenance?

mossy perch
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no?

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its going down for 4 hours

sonic snow
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Guess I'll go do things then. Kicks a pebble.

ebon vortex
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Is the PTR still on the same build it was when prepatch was first added?

valid knot
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So on the ptr I keep encountering a gold transfer limit when trying to change a characters faction.

ancient jasper
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It'll hopefully be fixed the time Shadowlands launches.

cunning fossil
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NGL

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Kiiiinda not the place to advertise that kind astuff

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and I don't want you to be like

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Banned or something

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So maybe remove that message and maybe ask in a more appropriate chat

frozen stratus
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advertising in general isnt reallyt allowed unless you ask the mods for permission

cunning fossil
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well at least you can ask

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Rather than get a warning

tropic trail
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<@&299347348847329281>

frigid crater
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thanks!

indigo vigil
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Anyone else having trouble with character copies?

foggy abyss
frozen stratus
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Yes thats perfection

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Itd be better if the orc was t posed

tropic trail
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Is character copy broke rn

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@indigo vigil yesss I am, it just will not copy

hexed sleet
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Anyone know when new login screen and music gonna come out?

cunning fossil
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Probably this patch actually

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Well

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This PTR/Beta patch

forest sphinx
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Does anyone have a site or list of addons that are working with the PTR?

faint crystal
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New PTR build today?

frozen stratus
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Probably

faint crystal
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Fair

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Still no beta key

frozen stratus
rapid badge
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PTR down
hope they haven't nerfed the legion quartermaster weapons

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then again i hope they're fixed too, can literally buy an iLvl 47 wep after getting an artifact

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use from 10-50 levelling, can solo ragefire chasm on my mage

viral sun
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Maybe they'll add boots to the Exile's Reach sets. /s

violet karma
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ptr got updated

signal bone
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server's up?

ivory meadow
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nah

mossy mesa
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whats the update?

viral sun
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Can't find any notes anywhere yet

cunning fossil
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PTR getting updated 🙂

viral sun
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Anyone have notes yet?

cunning fossil
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None for me

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Also Servers are offline

tropic trail
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release please!

cunning fossil
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lol

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PTR still offline

ancient jasper
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PTR seems to be up now

cunning fossil
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ooooh

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Well I can't get into the servers is what I meant

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Can you?

ancient jasper
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Let me try and log on to a character

cunning fossil
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will do the same

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PTR is up now 🙂

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thx

ancient jasper
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😄

forest sphinx
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So what's on the PTR?

cunning fossil
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Not much from what I saw. Unholy DK changes anmd BM hunter got it so that Beastial Wrath has an instant damage effect now

ancient jasper
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Looks like the Zombie stuff is now completely disabled on the PTR

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No Argent Crusaders or anything

cunning fossil
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then what are we testing now?

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just the minibosses and stuff?

ancient jasper
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I don't know if that is even up actually

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Probably Class Changes, Character Customization and leveling at this point

cunning fossil
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leveling huh?

ancient jasper
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Most Transformation Toys are still broken so that is slightly worrisome

limpid spade
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please tell me prepatch won't be next week (16th)

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just did 5 mask Org

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need to do 5 mask SW next week 😮

upper lantern
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nah it most likely isn't next week. We'd have had an announcement date if that were the case

thick saddle
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If they follow the same pattern with the "2 week prior notice" for PVP Seasons (and we haven't heard anything yet), than the earliest for prepatch will be the 22nd/23rd

worthy tartan
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what does having 2 prepatches mean for us?

strange falcon
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nothing really

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the ptr is on the 9.0.1

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so the changes dont break the game

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on the 9.0.2 side

worthy tartan
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so is current ptr gonna be prepatch 1

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and then whatever happens after is prepatch 2

thick saddle
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9.0.2 will probably be released on Release Day, and probably not a huge update.

frozen stratus
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Itll be bug

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Big

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Itll be oct 25th im pretty sure

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I think the plan is to iterate a bunch on the beta branch after prepatch

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To try and "fix" certain issues

worthy tartan
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i want to be excited but i dont want to get my hopes up aha

pastel bloom
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I thought prior expac prepatches were dropped like 2 weeks prior to the xpac to give people a sense of the class changes and such

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I'd be surprised if they dropped pre so close to launch

crisp steeple
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pre patches drop a month before expansion rleases

pastel bloom
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Ohhhhhhh so people saying 22nd meaning like Sept 22nd not Oct

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I completely misread that god damn

foggy abyss
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My bet is either for the last Afterlives or a week after

tropic trail
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the sooner it comes the sooner i sub

soft flower
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Is controller support added in ptr?

digital badge
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29th then?

tiny stream
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The pre-patch normally puts in the entire expansion/zone but leaves out a way to access it until launch, so that they don't have to make you download a massive patch at launch. However, this time around patch 9.0.1 will be all the pre-patch stuff and then we will have a later patch which will add all the shadowlands stuff that will happen before launch

digital badge
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The pre-patch normally puts in the entire expansion/zone but leaves out a way to access it until launch, so that they don't have to make you download a massive patch at launch. However, this time around patch 9.0.1 will be all the pre-patch stuff and then we will have a later patch which will add all the shadowlands stuff that will happen before launch
@tiny stream when will be released? im tired of corruptions

tiny stream
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Unknown. Probably in two or three weeks

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The consensus guess is that it will be the week after the shadowlands shorts finish

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The best part is that on your main character you can work with the zombie invasion/ice crown storyline while you can play through the new leveling experience.

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My plan is to create my 3 alts. I'm thinking a Shaman, a Druid, and a Priest?

digital badge
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but blizzard didnt announced still the end of season

tiny stream
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Will the pre-patch end the season? or just remove all the corruptions

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We normally have 1-2 updates per season right?

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So this could be update 2

stiff vector
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9.0.1 will have most of the Shadowlands content too fwiw, just locked and unfinished

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They're not going to bother separating the two by painstakingly removing shadowlands specific files

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9.0.2 will likely bring a lot of fixes for said content though that will still be WIP when 9.0.1 hits, which is the point of separating them

digital badge
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9.0.1 will have most of the Shadowlands content too fwiw, just locked and unfinished
@stiff vector but when will be released 9.0.1?

stiff vector
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on a tuesday late this month

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22 or 29 idk

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6th of october would be too late for the event to start i think

mossy perch
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Looking later month or early oct now

stiff vector
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though i guess thats the last date it can start on

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its like a 3-4 week event i think

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october 6 is the last date

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but event has to start the same day

tropic trail
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Gotta love all the NSFW conversation in PTR trade chat

cunning fossil
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Oooh interesting

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what are they talking about 🙂

tropic trail
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It was super disgusting stuff

cunning fossil
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Hmmm

dense plover
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(us) VersionsName: 9.0.1.35853 → 9.0.1.35897!

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new ptr build

foggy abyss
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Oh yeah just got the notification

flat tusk
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have any of you experienced a very slow/laggy ptr? everytime u login

gilded linden
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Im just waiting til pre-patch hits and someone gets butthurt about something and DDOS come back

cunning fossil
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nice

orchid veldt
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is PTR disabled?
rn
i havent been able to log in for a few days

rapid badge
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Should be working fine

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Heart is now a lv10 quest, but not seeing it in SW

wild sluice
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New update.

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What happened?

pastel bloom
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what is the pre-patch event gonna be exactly? Naxx 1.0 zombie invasion round 2?

rapid badge
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wasn't there a scourge invasion in vanilla?

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or was the zombie attack just from wrath?

pastel bloom
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vanilla had a zombie invasion event

formal dawn
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is there a vendor for Exile's Reach armour on PTR ? and if so, does anyone know where it is

wild sluice
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No. You have to do quests.

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I apparently missed one because I have no boots.

tiny stream
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One of them is in the chest with the "5" player boss in the cave

tropic trail
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The bear?

formal dawn
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is this intended behavior? i got 100% mount riding at 10

tropic trail
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you should have 60%, 100% at 20, yeah that's not right.

wooden linden
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heroics n raids are playable are they in ptr right?

strange falcon
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SL hc /raids no

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old content yes

wooden linden
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oh yeah but not through matchmaking yeah

robust hollow
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question - anyone know what the calcs are for (SL) AP perchance? struggling to find any reference to it... bfa calcs don't seem to be translating...

wind viper
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is there any way i can get a max char on the ptr w/o leveling ?

ancient jasper
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You should be able to use the Character Copy if you have one on Retail

dense plover
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@robust hollow SL AP?

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what?

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shadowlands doesnt have artifact power

sullen dawn
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He probably means reknown but its nothing like AP

dense plover
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its a flat 2 per week

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sometimes 3 from the campaign

misty blaze
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i hope pre patch is soon

robust hollow
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@robust hollow SL AP?
@dense plover I meant attack power

robust hollow
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an example is Shattering Throw - Hurl your weapon at the enemy, causing [(Attack power * 1.0) * (1 + Versatility)] Physical damage, ignoring armor, and removing any magical immunities. Deals up to 500% increased damage to absorb shields.

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Trying to find out how that AP is calculated

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The sources I am coming across say it should be (Strength x 2) + (Char.Level x 3) - 20....but based on PTR...this doesn't seem to be correct

dense plover
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well, they made it so abilities actually do +-5% damage now

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so you need to do a bunch of attacks and take the average

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installing dejacharstats might help

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i believe it lets you make attack power a visible stat

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Wowpedia

Attack power (AP) is a physical damage attribute derived from strength and/or agility and character level, that serves to increase your base weapon damage by an amount relative to this statistic. There are two forms of attack power: Melee attack power, and Ranged attack power....

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this might help as well

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its dependent on the class

robust hollow
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thank you so much

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been looking everywhere for this...

sonic flame
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is this still working?

dense plover
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probably not

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they explicitly have gone on record saying that speed leveling like that shouldnt be possible by launch

sonic flame
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where did they say that? o.o

dense plover
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fairly certain you cant group with people who are in a different toggle for chromie time

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IE - you cant party with someone out of chromie time if you are in it or vice versa

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they made string changes that put you in different phases a week or two ago

sonic flame
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so chromie time IS a different phase now

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?

dense plover
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yes

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or it SHOULD be

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im not sure if its actually in yet

sonic flame
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i won then, i won the world

dense plover
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but considering they added strings, they probably plan to have it

sonic flame
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whatever it is the scummy scammy thing I wanted to do, I can do it now

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I won at the game

dense plover
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uh

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probably not

sonic flame
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They had to do ANYTHING but placing you in different phases

dense plover
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the strings dont let you group if you are and someone isnt in chromie time or vice versa

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im not sure its phased

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i just know they dont let you group up

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and if you are currently in a group and try to switch to chromie time im pretty sure it doesnt let you

sonic flame
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interesting

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well i hope it's a different phase too then

dense plover
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PARTY_PLAYER_CHROMIE_TIME_OTHER_ALLIANCE
You can't see them until they leave Chromie Time or you enter it. Talk to Chromie near the Embassy in Stormwind.
NEW PARTY_PLAYER_CHROMIE_TIME_SELF_LOCATION
You are currently in |cffffffffChromie Time: %s|r

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PARTY_PLAYER_CHROMIE_TIME_SELF_ALLIANCE
You can't see them until you leave Chromie Time or they enter it. Talk to Chromie near the Embassy in Stormwind.
NEW PARTY_PLAYER_CHROMIE_TIME_SELF_HORDE
You can't see them until you leave Chromie Time or they enter it. Talk to Chromie near the Embassy in Orgrimmar.
NEW PARTY_PLAYER_CHROMIE_TIME_OTHER_HORDE
You can't see them until they leave Chromie Time or you enter it. Talk to Chromie near the Embassy in Orgrimmar.
NEW PARTY_PLAYER_CHROMIE_TIME_OTHER_LOCATION
Currently in |cffffffffChromie Time: %s|r

sonic flame
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perfect

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it's effectively a new phase

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super happy with the change

dense plover
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dont think its a phase

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think its like warmode

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same phase, different shard

sonic flame
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warmode IS a different phase

dense plover
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no, its a shard

sonic flame
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in a sense where phase is when you meet other people

dense plover
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its why when you toggle they shift instantly

sonic flame
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i see

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well still the same thing for me i guess

dense plover
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shard =/= phase

sonic flame
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just changes the word

dense plover
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also, anything exploiting that kind of stuff will almost definitely get you banned

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thats the stuff they ban on expac start

frozen stratus
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whats bannable?

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exploiting shards?

dense plover
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exploiting phasing to somehow boost characters from 1-50

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thats the kind of shit they ban people for

frozen stratus
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oh for like quests?

sonic flame
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also, anything exploiting that kind of stuff will almost definitely get you banned
@dense plover i dont plan on exploiting the shard

frozen stratus
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sorry peach

sonic flame
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no actually that can't work

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nevermind

tropic trail
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They actually made Dark Brown Hair for Humans

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Finally, I'm happy

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I can finally make myself in WoW now haha

tidal fiber
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what?

tropic trail
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it's a proper, darker brown and it looks great indeed

wooden linden
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is the urgent request questline gone?

cunning fossil
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Yes it seems

frozen stratus
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barber changes are on ptr right?

tropic trail
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yes

frozen stratus
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sweet

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ty

tropic trail
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i tested the gender swap on ptr. i still feel female orcs should be bigger

wheat minnow
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anyone know if the castle nathria boss models are in the PTR files? Can i view them with wow model viewer?

strange falcon
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you probably can view them on wowhead

wheat minnow
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yeah i know but i would like the with a green background for easier cut 😄

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need them for some graphics

silent urchin
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They are, you can see them in the dungeon journal

wheat minnow
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alright, then it should work with the model viewer. thanks 🙂

sonic flame
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the materials required to make the relics are still 100% subject to change

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the levels 4 and 5 of tailoring require bolts of cloths instead of just cloths, but they substitued the test-gun with normal netherweave cloths

misty blaze
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im hoping pre patch is soon

soft flower
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I need to get aotc before prepatch

tropic trail
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It's likely anywhere from the 22nd to the 29th.

frozen stratus
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It wont be the 22nd

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We will know tomorrow if it is the 29th

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otherwise it could be the 6th at worst

tropic trail
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Blizz said 4-6 weeks before the expansion. The two-week notice might not even happen given a lot of the weird stuff this xpac, like not getting a release date until two months before.

frozen stratus
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they've always given a 2 week notice

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if they don't a lot of people will be very pissed

inland anchor
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probably we'll receive a blue post this tuesday

frozen stratus
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yes

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im assuming it will be the 29th at this point

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but the 6th is still "possible"

lofty moth
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Hello everyone ! Can you inform me please how armswar and prot perform on m++ content ? Is that rly bad as i read on forums

cunning fossil
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Number 1 rule

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NEVER TRUST THE FORUMS

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on ANYTHING

lofty moth
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So, any insight on how arms performs currently in m+ SL?

tropic trail
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It performs as good as you play it

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Nothing else to read into. Play good you'll be good.

lofty moth
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Was not enough for higher m+ content last 2 expansions (especially early season) since aoe cleave is based on 1 trick pony burst and then falls down and down as the pack fight continues , next trash pull pack repeat

soft flower
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You guys think blizz will release a higher res model of the guitar axe they had during wotlk prepatch?

cloud ermine
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NEVER TRUST THE FORUMS

you only say that because forums say the unfortunate truths obviously such as "wow is dying because BC expansion killed world pevepe"

tropic trail
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Wows been dying since 2004. MMOs have been dying since 1996, everythings dead nothing matters.

frozen stratus
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Im dead

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Your dead

tropic trail
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But we are all alive in the Shadowlandss

frozen stratus
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Imnot

tropic trail
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garrosh alive in shadowlands confirmed

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thanks rook

tropic trail
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Wows been dying since 2004. MMOs have been dying since 1996, everythings dead nothing matters.

you are the prophet

lethal kelp
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During downtime today I decided to pop into PTR only to discover the entire prepatch event... Missing. What's up with that? I still have my Argent currency.

ivory meadow
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because whatever they wanted feedback on they got it and took it off.

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plenty more to test than just the event.

brazen trellis
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@lofty moth i heard Protection warrior was #1 rn

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for bfa

lethal kelp
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because whatever they wanted feedback on they got it and took it off.
@ivory meadow tyvm

dense plover
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new ptr vendor

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(eu) VersionsName: 9.0.1.35889 → 9.0.1.35929!

barren vigil
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look at that PTR beard...LOOK AT IT! and the lightforged thought they were the bee's knees....nae I say...NAAAEEEEEE

drowsy leaf
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is the ptr down rn?

signal bone
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didn't they only give 1 week notice for prepatch one time?

faint crystal
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ptr is up

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im on it

limpid spade
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are PTR numbers tuned to healthy levels for doing M+ and raids with the changes?

flat solar
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are allied races not unlocked on ptr? I unlocked them all a long time ago

frozen stratus
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old world Cutscenes are supposed to play on the ptr right?

tropic trail
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Hello, i have an odd question to ask to people who have a knowledge of the leveling in the beta/ptr.

Knowing that:

Level 1 Live = Level 1 Beta/PTR
Level 120 Live = Level 50 Beta/PTR

What level on live is require to have to be level 30 on the beta/ptr ?

frozen stratus
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2.4 levels on live is 1 level on ptr roughly

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with it being round up

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the level required would be around uh level 62ish

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sorry

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much higher actually it would be somewhere in the 70s

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72

tropic trail
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30x2.4=72

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hmmm

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does that apply to DH and DK as well?

frozen stratus
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what do you mean

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it applies to everyone

tropic trail
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what i mean is

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since DH start at 98

frozen stratus
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you'll start at a lower level as a DH

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specifically level 8

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same for DK

tropic trail
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but if you make one now, something in the 40's?

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if a DH on live create a DH, then it start at 98, but when ptr/beta will hit live, will it turn into a level 1 or it will change to a lvl 40 ?

frozen stratus
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yes

tropic trail
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It should be 40 yes

frozen stratus
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yes

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its just a background conversion

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every character ever will get scaled

flat solar
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so right now on ptr other than level squish and character creation stuff is there any "actual content" up? I see that the skybox over icc is the new one but it seems to be about it

frozen stratus
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uh

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prepatch event was already tested

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I think people are pushing M+ on PTR?

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LOL

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idk anything else tbh

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oh

tropic trail
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pvp

frozen stratus
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chromie time leveling

flat solar
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(sorry didnt play for a long while just came back for ptr and incoming pre patch etc)

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Thanks for the answers 🙂

frozen stratus
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mhm

tropic trail
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but i wonder when it will go lives

frozen stratus
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best bet is the 29th

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but idk anymore

tropic trail
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the thing is they didn't even announced the end of pvp season, which should end 2 weeks prior to ... things

frozen stratus
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yes

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they might do a shorter notice period

tropic trail
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It's possible with how weird the Shadowlands release date stuff has been.

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it had to say it now, or if they do it next weekm then prepatch event will last 3 weeks total

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Possibly some procedural changes.

frozen stratus
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they could announce prepatch on thursday

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with the last afterlives

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itd be a 12 day notice instead

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but it would make sense

tropic trail
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could work

frozen stratus
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no way itll be next week though

tropic trail
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BfA's release date was given 4 months before launch whereas Shadowlands was just 2.

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so

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to level now from 1 to 72 is slower now instead of leveling 1 to 30 in shadowlands?

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or it's just the same experience overall, jsut shorter levels number

frozen stratus
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why do you wanna be 30 specifically just curious?

tropic trail
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I believe that's the case.

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Leveling now is fast but it is very fast in Shadowlands.

frozen stratus
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it feels pretty similar speed wise

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but its definitely faster

tropic trail
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@frozen stratus twink 30 xD

frozen stratus
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oh

tropic trail
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twink 30 with ny'alotha item lvl gear in bg and what not 😛

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i'm sad that the sword of thousand truth didn't made the line for hte nax's items ... unless those nax items were from OG Vanilla and not Northrend Vanilla

muted lagoon
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So one of my friends is suddenly patching 2GB+ for WoW right now. Anyone know what could be in such a large WoW patch?

dense plover
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preload

soft flower
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Why does your launcher look way better than mine

frozen stratus
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its the beta launcher

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go to settings - > beta

austere gazelle
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it's not stable though, there are still some bug

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bug eventually we'll all have the same

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when it won't be beta anymore

tropic trail
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@soft flower "better"

digital estuary
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it's a nice launcher but daaaaang is the scale way up

soft flower
#

You guys think they'll do anything special for hallows fest since it takes place during prepatch ?

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With shadowlands having to do with the afterlife and the headless horseman being undead it would be cool if they tied shadowlands into it somehow

red hollow
#

I hope they do

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Maybe they'll increase the mount droprate by 1%

golden geyser
#

20gb download 😮

soft flower
#

You guys getting updates?

tall loom
#

i have my background update done.

azure estuary
#

Has anyone here given the new leveling system any extensive testing? I’m wondering if it turned out how they said they wanted it to at BlizzCon, where you should be hitting 50 by the time you finish the story quests of a given expansion.

frozen stratus
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Yes a lot of people have tested it

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Some expansions are different so some arent successful, yet. Mainly due to quest count.

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I know for legion and bfa they succeeded pretty well

azure estuary
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Ok. Have you heard anything about BC and Wrath?

frozen stratus
#

Uh i havent seen numbers but they do should be somewhere

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Wrath and bc had a lot of quests so im pretty sure they are longer or have cut offs

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Wod is extremely fast from what ive been told

azure estuary
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I’ve been excited because this new leveling system on paper should allow me to finally get loremaster. BC, and Wrath are all I’m missing

frozen stratus
#

Oh nice

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Yeah itll be a lot more convenient

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Im excited for the wod leveling path as long as it isnt nerfed

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Apparently desmephisto did it in 5 hours or so (hes a leveling speedrunner)

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So that means probably 8 to 12 hours for less experienced levelers and maybe faster for more experiences ones

dense plover
#

Another ptr vendor

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Still no dev builds

vivid dust
#

Do they ever plan on fixing / updating PTR? its been over a week with no talent updates and mana is still bugged for most classes.

silent urchin
#

PTR patch just downloaded

mossy perch
silent urchin
#

9.0.1.35944

pulsar minnow
#

pog

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This isn't pre-release though

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So 29th will probably be the pre-patch launch date

silent urchin
#

That's what I've been expecting, although if they want to it doesn't take long to push a release candidate

final lily
#

Calling it now announce tomorrow after the final Afterlives for release Oct 1st. Two weeks from tomorrow is Oct 1st, also they won't overlap it with Winds of Wisdom and Impressive Influence which both end Sept 30.

tropic trail
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Two weeks isn't really the standard. BfA was 12 days for the season end.

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The 29th is looking quite comfy.

silent urchin
#

Eh, I can see them cutting off the buffs a day early

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the new leveling is faster than the current with buff anyway

tropic trail
#

The new screen is awesome, I was thinking it'd be 27th so I was close

opaque crane
#

Latest PTR isn't marked as a release candidate

elder star
#

wouldent it be funny if they changed the material components for relics of the past in the latest patch making all my cloth i speculated on worthless? hahaha cries

frozen stratus
oblique quail
tropic trail
#

let 👏 midnight 👏 fly 👏

pastel bloom
#

is spriest Death and Madness talent working properly on the PTR or no?

red hollow
#

No pre-patch release date announcement? I'm crushed.

tropic trail
#

we need to get a notice that pvp season 4 of bfa is ending and the release date announcement is 1 week or so before it comes out

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hopefully we the notice later today

red hollow
#

Oh okay cool

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I'm hopeful.

candid cosmos
#

guys I have a question
if I get any mount on the SL ptr it links with my main account
?

tropic trail
#

no

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if you get a mount on PTR you will not have it on Retail

candid cosmos
#

thanks!!

ancient jasper
#

Yeah Retail/Beta/PTR are 3 completely separate things. Nothing carries over to Retail.

frozen stratus
#

Well retail carries over into beta/ptr kinda

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But not the other way

surreal swift
#

does anyone know how to get to shadowlands in ptr?

ancient jasper
#

You don't

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PTR is just testing Character Customization, level squish, iLvl squish, Chromie Time(I think?) and game balance with the new squish.

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Oh and Class Changes and the new Heirlooms as well

calm elbow
#

@surreal swift you can sign into your account on the website, check under your games you should be able to add a ptr account, once added to your account it will appear on your launcher as an option

surreal swift
#

ok thanks

tropic trail
#

anyone else expierenced gamegrashes today on ptr?

frozen stratus
#

ive been fine

glass chasm
#

Are azerit traits still aktiv with pre patch?

cunning fossil
#

Anyone know what I should try out on PTR?

tall loom
#

test class changes.

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if you are undecided.

upper lantern
#

You can also see new customizations

tropic trail
#

anyone else having problems with the PTR? cant copy characters

wind lake
#

same problem

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just checked

tiny stream
#

But isn't 100 normal nyolotha?

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So shouldn't heroics be easy with normal nyolotha gear?

wind lake
#

im ilvl 445, or maybe it is just locked...?

tiny stream
#

That's super weird...

frozen stratus
#

29 or later.

tropic trail
#

So if the prepatch would arrive when would blizzard announce this ?

frozen stratus
#

announce what?

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the prepatch?

tropic trail
#

Yeah that is coming live

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*going live

digital estuary
#

during the day usually

#

...we got no better awnser for you than that

tropic trail
#

No I mean would it be on a Tuesday

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Or ... Just any day :)

frozen stratus
#

yes it'd be on a tuesday most likely

tropic trail
#

Kk ty 😘

fading girder
#

the patch or the announcement?

slender plover
#

Does anyone else have trouble with copy character?

tropic trail
#

the announcement @fading girder

frozen stratus
#

oh the announcement could happen any day

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but it'll likely be a tues/thurs

pastel bloom
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most likely 12-14 days prior to prepatch itself, gives people who pvp and such a chance to finish up any ranking stuff they wanna do and people to pick up AotC and raid exclusive mounts that are dropping from 100% to 1% drop chance

dense sentinel
tropic trail
#

doesnt surprise me that its set for that date

mossy perch
#

that'd put it for about the 13th if anything, that feels.. very late but

tropic trail
#

why the 13th?

mossy perch
#

because they generally push updates and big things out on a tuesday

#

with it ending on the 7th I imagine that lines up with EU reset; so I wonder if on NA it ends on the 6th

dense sentinel
#

7 october in EU it's reset time in Europe

mossy perch
#

yeah

dense sentinel
#

It would then be 6 october in US

mossy perch
#

sorry then it'd be the 6th / 7th

dense sentinel
#

Reset time in EU is half a day later, which means when US reset on 6, EU on 7

mossy perch
#

Legion had something similar iirc

dense sentinel
#

yes

mossy perch
#

npc on the broken shore casting

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that'd be extremely short for it though

dense sentinel
frozen stratus
#

Well the event is only 2 weeks long

tropic trail
#

^

mossy perch
#

Sure, but it's little breathing room afterwards is the point

frozen stratus
#

Yeah

mossy perch
#

its a waiting game either way, but it's good to see this sorta shit pop-up again

frozen stratus
#

I gotta get my different armour types ready for prepatch event

ancient jasper
#

It's kind of dumb to only give themselves 2 weeks for all the bugs that will likely pop up once far more people than Beta/PTR are playing it.

small hull
#

The legendary cloak is gone in pre patch? Or we can use it?

tropic trail
#

its useless i think?

tiny stream
#

It still works for the Horrific Visions I think, but that's it

limber mural
#

Oh lord jesus are people still tryna use the cultists to call release dates

#

Hasn't that been wrong like the majority of the time

upper lantern
#

Yeah I think the cultist stuff has been bullshit lol

void egret
#

Did any of the newer windwalker changes help?

limpid spade
#

funny how a week ago I was stressed about getting everything done before prepatch and now I immediately hopped on the "can't wait for prepatch" train

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can only feel the pain of people who've been playing 8.3 from day one

tropic trail
#

:>

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literally cannot wait for BfA to be over

limpid spade
#

will the state of classes on the prepatch be good enough to do endgame content?

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or are they undertuned?

tropic trail
#

They'll be a bit undertuned as I believe Ion mentioned. You'll want to wait to return to BfA and earlier endgame content until 60.

limpid spade
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oh? I mean, I get how that works in the long run

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but how are we going to spend the month leading to SL?

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content-wise that is

tropic trail
#

You can do endgame content the same as you have been in groups, but if I misunderstood, you can't solo/do them with only a few people until endgame Shadowlands.

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I realize now you meant just flat out doing content with full groups. Yeah, you'll be able to do that just fine.

limpid spade
#

yeah I was wondering if the scaling will be too harsh to do Nya HC or higher keys that you would be doing before

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didn't really think about solo old raids

tropic trail
#

I just assumed haha. It should be fine doing endgame raids, just a touch more difficulty due to the lack of azerite/corruptions.

#

But folks are smart.

limpid spade
#

still, glad that I haven't invested much gear scaling on corruptions since I first tried 8.3 less than a month ago

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so the removal will barely affect me

tropic trail
#

I didn't touch corruptions at all. I hate them as a system.

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Especially considering the first mechanic they punish you with is the AoE orb, and as a turret spec in MM it makes playing so frustrating.

#

nothing feels worse than interrupting Aimed Shot three times before I can cast it

limpid spade
#

same here for Spriest

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glad I was able to do the 5mask solos with 2 corruptions only

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someone scared me off at first saying you need really good corruptions for it

tropic trail
#

I stopped doing Visions once I got my cloak to 15; I cannot stand them

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i should probably get the achievements done though...

barren vigil
#

Soooo I'm going to guess prepatch isnt gonna be until october now...

frozen stratus
#

29th to 13th are the possible dates

tropic trail
#

^

#

its 100% at least 2 weeks

frozen stratus
#

But it cannot be sooner than the 29th

tropic trail
#

i wish it was sooner but oh well..

digital wadi
#

They're yet to announce the end of the PVP season?

frozen stratus
#

They havent yet

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But last AWC is the 27th

tropic trail
#

I wonder if they make it so late couse they got panic . Just imagine the 27. Presentation For Shadowlands was a mistake and it should announce the prepatch happy happy happy

frozen stratus
#

what

tropic trail
#

Na just a joke

#

I Sayed imagine blizzard wanted to announce the prepatch for the 27 but someone did a mistake and it became Shadowlands on the Gamescom xD

frozen stratus
#

oof

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thatd be really bad

#

but nah that isnt the case

tropic trail
#

😂

#

I know

#

Still this always goes around my head when I think how late the prepatch comes . Someone Sayed the invasion goes 5 weeks but we are over it soon . So how do they want to make 5 weeks of event ?

frozen stratus
#

The scourge invasion is only 2 weeks of content.

austere gazelle
#

They could have spread it on the PTR to test slowly all the phases

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but merge them after

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during my test I found out that the " cut " were weird as fuck so It might have been not intended to be in 5 phases

limpid spade
#

doesn't the prepatch event require at least 4 weeks to run smoothly before SL launches?

#

if that's the case, October cannot be the case

frozen stratus
#

prepatch event is only 2 weeks long

balmy lynx
#

Wait then why did ptr test “week 3”

frozen stratus
#

was there ever a week 3 test?

balmy lynx
#

I could’ve sworn they did but now I can’t even find it thunk

frozen stratus
#

yeah I dont think they ever did

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I think somewhere in a blue post they implied there would be more

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but I dont think they ever tested more iirc

tropic trail
#

there was never a week 3

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Have they even fixed the scourge event as last time I checked zombies died almost instantly

frozen stratus
#

uh

#

idk

#

they tuned them around a bunch

tropic trail
#

Yeah, I hope they turn them up back to where they were and just make it optional

frozen stratus
#

make it WM on

tropic trail
#

Yeah

#

I wonder if they are even listening

#

There are a few specs that need a lot of work and the zombie event is useless

balmy lynx
#

Went back to check around and yeah seems only 2 weeks of content, guess my minds more messed up than I knew

limpid spade
#

so it's a 2 week event?

balmy lynx
#

Possibly not, but there’s only 2 weeks worth of content

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Meaning it’s possible to have a week of nothing go by

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Wowhead posted a whole speculation article that might be nice to check out. As it describes better than I could and says what their estimated dates are. But as blizz hasn’t said anything, nothings set in stone

frozen stratus
#

sep 29th to oct 13th

terse anvil
#

The cultists are casting... due to finish casting on the 6th

tropic trail
#

So 6th is the prepatch, nice!

#

Well around that time at least

terse anvil
#

That would give us 3 weeks till launch after it drops.. 2 weeks of prepatch content a week to level and gear alts

#

plus they would have time to announce pvp season end.

tropic trail
#

anyone else having issues with the character copy?

#

ok I can't create char either#

paper goblet
#

Hey, is there a PTR active right now?

tropic trail
#

yes

austere gazelle
#

Yeah, in EU the casting finish the 7

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so...

terse anvil
#

it lines up

#

confirmed?

digital estuary
#

No.

terse anvil
#

Not the best.. but it will have to do lol

calm elbow
#

@terse anvil what do you mean with "the cultist are casting"?

terse anvil
#

There are Xorothian Cultists in legion that have a huge cast timer. Coincidentally they have line up there cast timer with major release points in wow. More of a meme now however there is quite a bit of times it checked out

calm elbow
#

that would be really cool

tropic trail
#

Wait then why did ptr test “week 3”

They didn't, unfortunately. Everyone at the end of Week 2 when Blizz started pulling it was like 'wait that's it?'

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Hopefully Shadowlands has a case of the MoP syndrome where its prepatch is 👎 but its actual expansion content is 👍

frozen stratus
terse anvil
#

Need more time to play around with class changes and new leveling

mossy perch
#

you'll have an entire expansion for that

terse anvil
#

Eh I only play like 7 hours a week lol.

mossy perch
#

okay? you'll have a whole 2 years of class changes and new levelling to play with

terse anvil
#

Yeah I suppose in between 9.0 and 9.1 there will be a lull after my guild wraps up the raid.

#

Get my class testing in then lol

fading girder
#

Wait then why did ptr test “week 3”

They didn't, unfortunately. Everyone at the end of Week 2 when Blizz started pulling it was like 'wait that's it?'
@tropic trail why did people think it was going to be 4 weeks?

tropic trail
#

Because most prepatches have a decent bit of content to do.

#

And were at least 4 weeks long.

terse anvil
#

Past prepatch lengths

tropic trail
#

Cataclysm, MoP (was longer), WoD, Wrath, Legion (was three weeks)

#

Only TBC was particularly short

terse anvil
#

BFA was long

fading girder
#

ah so since there was something different the first two weeks, people just assumed there'd be a week 3 and week 4 phase?

tropic trail
#

Yeah. People assumed we'd do something after killing the Herald.

frozen stratus
#

Mop was 1 week

#

Tbc was 1 week

#

Wrath was 3

tropic trail
#

But it just kinda stops there and then Bolvar calls us in and says 'time to go to the shadowlands'

frozen stratus
#

Wod was 4

#

Legion was 2 or 3

#

Bfa waa 2 or 3 as well

tropic trail
#

this is incorrect

#

WotLK prepatch was 31 days

#

er, 57 days

#

TBC prepatch was 31 days

#

Cata was 60, MoP was 31, WoD was 43, and Legion was 29

terse anvil
#

BFA had a quest that unlocked each part each week

frozen stratus
#

Source?

frozen stratus
#

Prepatch or prepatch events?

tropic trail
#

Prepatch.

frozen stratus
#

Ah my bad

tropic trail
#

I find it really funny that WoW is so old now that we're like history buffs

frozen stratus
#

Well yes

#

Lmao

tropic trail
#

'no prepatch was actually 100 days!'

'but my sources claim 150 days!'

#

'how can we know, it was so long ago?!'

frozen stratus
#

Lul

#

Documentation

#

Although it was real shit back in the day

#

Just like actual world history

tropic trail
#

lmfao yeah

frozen stratus
#

Tbf i thought you were talking about events

fading girder
#

patch and release dates are easy to find o.o

tropic trail
#

i love Wrath but WoW would generally suck if we went back to play old versions

frozen stratus
#

I cant wait for wrath claasic

tropic trail
#

I'm down for tiered legacy servers tbh.

meager badger
#

are new spriest changes on ptr

strange falcon
#

most probably yes

terse anvil
#

yes

#

class changes are on ptr

meager badger
#

well is the horde exiles reach intro just not on ptr because everytime try to start in exiles reach it crashes OMEGALUL

vestal linden
#

hey guys sorry if someones asked already, I can't copy or create a char on ptr. Anyone know why? 🙂

strange falcon
#

known issue

vestal linden
#

ah ok, no work around as of yet?

dense plover
#

PTR will be matching retail within a week or two

#

getting copy fixed is low priority af

vestal linden
#

oh damn that soon huh? i'll wait then screw it xD

tropic trail
#

it has been an issue after the restart PTR had on Friday

tame gust
#

any1 from the ptr, can tell fastest exp to 10-50?

terse anvil
#

copy your character

tame gust
#

expansion*

tropic trail
#

can anyone not copy their toon says "copy failed"

#

no one can copy characters atm its bugged

#

ahh ok ty lol

sonic flame
#

any1 from the ptr, can tell fastest exp to 10-50?
@tame gust boosting in instances should be fixed now

#

chromie time phases you out, you wont see other people

rough siren
#

Whats with the new colour of wowhead

dense plover
#

brewfest

soft flower
#

Are there any mogs or mounts that will only be available during prepatch

fading girder
#

mogs i heard

tropic trail
#

Have they fixed the copy issue yet?

wind lake
wind lake
strange falcon
#

dat be the point,mon

signal bone
#

any chance they shadow drop ptr on tuesdasy

#

pull a beyonce

#

Also wanna echo what Mumbo asked - last prepatch we got the bat / hippogrphy mounts. As far as I can tell, there's nothing special coming from this event (title, mount / pet, mog). The catchup gear is just a reskin of the basic warfront set (Arathi)

calm elbow
#

my money is on 9am 7th Oct EU

terse anvil
#

Im thinking we will get a pvp end of season announcement this week.

tropic trail
#

Also wanna echo what Mumbo asked - last prepatch we got the bat / hippogrphy mounts. As far as I can tell, there's nothing special coming from this event (title, mount / pet, mog). The catchup gear is just a reskin of the basic warfront set (Arathi)
@signal bone There is nothing. Only Mog that they didnt use in BFA such as the Battlefield Armors with different Colors. The whole event is like a trainee made it withing a day.

terse anvil
#

It is also why it will be short

#

most likely only a couple weeks

radiant thistle
#

anyone know why I can't copy any character to PTR? just sayin Copy Failed everytime

mighty jungle
#

It's been broken since some time during the weekend or maybe even earlier

radiant thistle
#

ehh, so need to wait until they fix that ;_;

cunning fossil
#

Oof

tropic trail
#

I'm pretty confused though were there a lot of bugs on PTR lmfao should of been out by now everything seems to be running smoothly. Can't take much more of BFA non sense so boring

terse anvil
#

nah its a short event

#

Oct 6/7 at the earliest

stable peak
#

I am just ready to start leveling again. Pre-Squish it feels kinda silly.

frozen stratus
#

Its really borked atm

cobalt jasper
#

bfa was worse than wod?

frozen stratus
#

Yeah

mossy perch
#

in some aspects, yes

frozen stratus
#

Wod had mostly good content but very little

#

Bfa had lots but you never wanted to do it

#

Wod had garrisons but blizzard ruined them

#

Bfa had corruptions and azerite... the 2 worst borrowed power systems ever

#

Wod had no borrowed power besides the usual standard ones

cobalt jasper
#

yeah

frozen stratus
#

Bfa was just a hot mess that didn't really work imo

upper lantern
#

The faction war storyline was absurdly bad

#

WoD's story was quite bad as well but it is quite self-contained

frozen stratus
#

Bfa tried to tell 4 expansions worth of story in 1

#

And used zones that should have been entire expansions

ivory meadow
#

and they pretty much killed off N'zoth that was being built up for a pretty long time

upper lantern
#

Yeah

frozen stratus
#

For over a decade iirc

ivory meadow
#

in which he got handled in a SINGLE PATCH.

upper lantern
#

At least Azshara wasn't killed, but boy Nazjatar was a big disappointment

frozen stratus
#

Nzoth was just fucking gutted

#

Nyalotha should have been its own entire expansion

mossy perch
#

or was it all a dream GWchadMEGATHINK

upper lantern
#

The biggest problem isn't N'zoth, but Nya'lotha

frozen stratus
#

With small excursions into distractions elsewhere

upper lantern
#

Nya'lotha was always said to be under the sea and they retconned it into another plane of existence

frozen stratus
#

Sad

upper lantern
#

Also N'zoth acting impulsive and throwings fits of anger lol

#

Vashj'ir was a much better Nazjatar than Nazjatar was lol. I can only hope we revisit it properly someday but I think they'll want to leave it all behind

frozen stratus
#

Also the assaults and stuff was super underwhelming

upper lantern
#

To their credit, Zandalar and KT were actually done well for the most part.

frozen stratus
#

At this point its obvious they just wanted to get a bunch if azeroth shit do e with todo the cosmic battle shit

upper lantern
#

But leveling zones are always good. WoD's leveling is amazing to this day

#

Yeah they are all in on this cosmic battle bullshit unfortunately

frozen stratus
#

I think the cosmic war will be cool tbf

#

Hopefully they do it right

upper lantern
#

Light vs void is boring, but if they include the other forces it'll be cool

frozen stratus
#

Its being set up that we will be investigating and fighting every force potentially

upper lantern
#

That could be an interesting "covenant" system. Choose your cosmic alignment (or better, have it predetermined based on your class)

#

Yeah.

#

The nathrezim thing they uncovered sounds pretty cool tbh

frozen stratus
#

Yes

upper lantern
#

the decision to abandon tier sets is so bad. I hope we see them again in SL

strange falcon
#

@upper lantern has been said they will be back soon

#

the specific reason is unclear

#

either art team needing a breather

#

or they ran out of tierset bonuses gameplay ideas

frozen stratus
#

Azerite armour

#

Was the reason

strange falcon
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

tropic trail
#

I dislike the Cosmic War. And the reason for it might sound weird. I simply dont want to leave Azeroth. If we fight against the Lord and Ladies of the other Cosmic Powers we will surely go to their World/Plane of excistenze. And I rather would love to stay on Azeroth and explore what story our Planet has. For Example: Whats on the back of the World :D?

fading girder
#

#flatazeroth

frozen stratus
#

Well 3/8 expansions are not on azeroth tbf

tropic trail
#

How dare you!? The Wastelands are in Azeroth! Its in the Eastern Kingdoms Map at the bottom left corner!!!! (You never saw the Alpha Map I guess!?)

#

Vashj'ir was a much better Nazjatar than Nazjatar was lol. I can only hope we revisit it properly someday but I think they'll want to leave it all behind

SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK

#

Vashj'ir was a terrifying zone

#

It was as scary as it was a pain to navigate

#

I would love to have an exp like Vashj'ir! Every zone will be underwater. Even the Maintown will be underwater! No Air Bubble to let us walk on ground! The City will have multiple floors and many corners! All Raids and Dungeons will be underwater. Monster are everywhere! Under your feets, at your side, over you! They all use range attacks, you will have to figure out from where the attacks are coming

#

What a wonderful exp that would be ❤️

#

that would be a nope for me lol

#

Nightmares of Underdeep!

untold hinge
#

Destro and sub need nerf

runic verge
#

how many levels do scourge invasions give?

terse anvil
#

the ones in legion? they were awesome

#

like a level or two

runic verge
#

the shadowlands ones

terse anvil
#

ohh

dense plover
#

uh

#

dont think it is for leveling?

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or if it is, it wasnt online long enough for people to get that info

soft flower
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Will shadowlands have something like legion invasions ?

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Or the horde/alliance invasions bfa had

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Which zones will be for world quests ?

pulsar minnow
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We'll have a mini zombie invasion, and we'll have dailies and stuff in Icecrown

soft flower
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Updated Northrend zones :O

dense plover
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not really

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just some updates to icecrown

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and those are only for level 50

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the zombie invasions are not like legion invasions from what has been seen so far

soft flower
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Hmm I liked those dangg

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Even the ones in bfa when a zone was under attack was kinda fun

dense plover
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yeah - but faster leveling isnt a neccesary thing with prepatch

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leveling on its own is permanently faster

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so its not unreasonable to put prepatch stuff at 50

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since you can get there in 10-15 hours

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or less

soft flower
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Noo but the invasion stuff was for world quests and rep not leveling

dense plover
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which invasions?

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the ones in BfA and legion that still exist?

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those werent in at launch

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they came with X.1

soft flower
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Ohhh okay

dense plover
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they will probably have something

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it will probably come with 9.1

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oh, apparently bfa assaults were 8.1, but legion was 7.2

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so

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

soft flower
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We shall seee

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But I can deff see them doing scourge assaults in some random zone that needs updating

dense plover
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not happening

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focus is on the shadowlands

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there are no quests that send you back to azeroth in shadowlands

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azeroth is not the focus

soft flower
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Scourge assaults in silvermoon would be awesomee

dense plover
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and the scourge invasion stuff is supposedly handled by expac launch

soft flower
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In game canon are we not able to go back to azeroth?

dense plover
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we can

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canonically

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but there are no quests that send us back

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the focus is on the shadowlands

meager badger
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somehow it took me 1 hour 30 minutes to get to level 15 frmo 0 starting at exiles reach but 2 hours 30 minutes to get from 10 - 15 when i didnt start at exiles reach same class and same race (mechagnome warrior) i did elwyn forest quests when i started at level 10

dense plover
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yes, exiles reach has modern pacing

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thats not accidental

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exiles reach is supposed to be more efficient

meager badger
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i love it

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how fast is leveling to 1-50?

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like on average

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not speedrunning or anything

dense plover
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10-15 hours

meager badger
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thats so good

dense plover
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yes

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yes it is

meager badger
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ive put over 25 hours of straight

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tanking on my tank druid

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rdf

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instant dungeon ques

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and hes only level 90

soft flower
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Blizz seems like they're really trying to encourage new players this xpac

dense plover
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yep

meager badger
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hoping to convince my friend to try it

dense plover
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thats why the default story is bfa

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its new

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has cutscenes

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and flows right into shadowlands

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and any important info from pre-bfa needed for shadowlands has those cutscenes ported

soft flower
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I really wish they would put wow on xbox

dense plover
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not gonna happen

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it requires too much control precision

soft flower
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Controller support would bring lots of new people

dense plover
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controller support is in SLs

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but its made for accessibility

meager badger
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if it were implimentable to a usable degree but in wow that like

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doesnt seem possible

dense plover
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it doesnt change the UI or anything

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it just lets you bind controller button combos

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the main use is for people with disabilities

soft flower
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Console players are basically disabled tho

dense plover
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that is not an ok thing to say

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thats discriminatory

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and not funny

deft ridge
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How dare you.jpg

meager badger
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now i kind of see why every console player has a prepositioned hatred for pc players

soft flower
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that is not an ok thing to say
@dense plover but it's true

dense plover
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no

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it isnt

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and it treats people with real disabilities like a joke

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it isnt funny

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its ableist

soft flower
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Mr peach are you

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Dare I say

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A :console: player

deft ridge
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Could they be "One of my people"?

tropic trail
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Consoles are just more affordable and convenient

ancient jasper
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I'd say the affordable part is debatable considering how many games there are on PC.

tropic trail
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I'm not sure what you mean?

ancient jasper
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You can get a semi-decent computer for about $700 that will run thousands and thousands of games versus having to have like an Xbox/PS with a subscription cost

pulsar minnow
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Apparently people who can't afford $1000 RBG setups are disabled

tropic trail
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I mean, sure, you can run infinite indie titles, but if you want to run anything modern (and especially modern in seven years) and have it look decent, $700 isn't gonna cut it.

pulsar minnow
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Heard it here first folks.

deft ridge
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It's not cost to game ratio it's just cost

tropic trail
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The PS4 for example was $400~ and lasted seven years. You'd never find a computer in 2013 for anywhere near that price that performs well on anything today.

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Yet the PS4 runs most, nearly all, of its end-generation games fine.

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Affordability is a fact of the draws of console gaming. Especially recently, I don't have the money to throw at a sufficient upgrade to my system that I can't get for significantly cheaper in the PS5.

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The 3070 is great and relatively cheap, yeah, but it's still $500 for a single part of the system.

tiny stream
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But it will also be an advanced upgrade for this entire gen. This is likely PS5 pro level tech

tropic trail
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What is?

tropic trail
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Not sure if this is the right placve to ask, but

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Do you really need an SSD to play shadowlands? Or you can still play with an HDD but the quality will go down drastically?

Or can you still play Pre-patch with an HDD but have to get an SSD when Shadowlands launch?

frozen stratus
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You can still play it with a hard drive

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You'll just get really long loading screens

tranquil steeple
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system requirements were changed a short while after the first pass, SSD is no longer a minimum requirement, but a recommended requirement (IIRC)

frozen stratus
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Its no longer minimum but highly recommended

tropic trail
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because i want to upgrade my computer(well, everything from my computer is 2010 based) so i have 3 HDD and no SSD(since those came out in 2014)

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and well, i thoguht to buy an SSD, since Shadowlands recommend it.

frozen stratus
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Ssds were earlier than 2014

tranquil steeple
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getting an SSD in general ain't a bad choice, tho

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even just a 250gb one which should be fairly cheap

frozen stratus
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Yeah

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Any ssd is likely to be a massive upgrade over a hard drive

limpid spade
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is copying chars to the PTR no longer possible?

frozen stratus
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I think its bugged out

limpid spade
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that and Nobundo is dead for days or so

runic verge
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mrpeach774Today at 4:40 PM
uh
dont think it is for leveling?
that's weird, they announced the shadowlands pre-expac event as being as good for leveling as the legion one

frozen stratus
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source?

tropic trail
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They definitely never said that. Blizzard explicitly said there would be no boosts like there were in Legion in Shadowlands.

frozen stratus
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source?

tropic trail
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Can't find it so feel free to come to your own conclusions.

limpid spade
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funny how the pre-patch blue post doesn't hint the release date at all

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unless I'm missing something

frozen stratus
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yeah elegy i dont remember them saying that but maybe im wrong XD

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rn the prepatch event definitely is only for max level players for the most part

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so no leveling there

granite lion
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They just completely rehauled the leveling experience. I would understand why they wouldn't want to include a easy leveling event like legions.

frozen stratus
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yeah theres no need

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speedrunners are doing 1-50 in like 5 hours

fading girder
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o.o

frozen stratus
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WoD is really quick

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since it isn't designed around flying and its pretty compact

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so leveling is just nutty

fading girder
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would there be any point to prepping bonus objectives now on alts in the 90s and finishing in pre-patch/SL?

frozen stratus
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no dont bother

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wouldnt be worth it imo

tropic trail
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please pre patch pleeeeeease

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Pls blizzard just a scrap of prepatch god pls

frozen stratus
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lmao

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no not until I get mad world tomorrow

tropic trail
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Pls dyredaddy just a scrap, just an itty bitty morsel of prepatch

frozen stratus
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I mean give me 14 hours (3 hours after reset) to get my mad world and we can do prepatch

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lul

tropic trail
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i just want a ninja release tomorrow. the forums posts will make it even more enjoyable 😃

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i will sub instantly

frozen stratus
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oof

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no

tropic trail
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BLIZZARD isnt that cool @tropic trail

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they wont risk the people who had a year and even months of new shit... being mad lol

frozen stratus
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issue is they can't push prepatch until AWC is over

tropic trail
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do we even know when its over?

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lmfao

frozen stratus
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Sep 26 or 27 iirc

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this weekend

tropic trail
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hmmm lame. they have been milking this shit for way too long gonna make ppl burnt out of PTR lmfao

frozen stratus
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nah

tropic trail
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if i had the button i'd press it

frozen stratus
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well good thing you dont xD

tropic trail
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want to get everything in order, my bags, macros

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all that jazz

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hahah

frozen stratus
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they can't really screw over a professional tournament yaknow

brazen trellis
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Anyone know what will happen to my boosts if I don’t use them in time? Sucky there’s no date that they’re sure to release it yet

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I gtg, so just ping me if you know anything

split ledge
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@brazen trellis they wrote that in their blogpost yesterday:
Level 120 Character Boosts will boost characters to level 50 after the pre-expansion patch.
Level 110 Character Boosts will boost characters to level 48 after the pre-expansion patch.

soft flower
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Boosts kinda feels useless now that I know leveling will be alot more fun then dull

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In shadowlands do we still need to lvl to 50 for heritage armor

fading girder
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save it then

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well i was going to say you could use it in a pinch if your guild needs something for raid

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but you'd have to level and gear it still XD

soft flower
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Yeaaa maybe I'll think of an rp char I don't wanna level

tropic trail
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Anyone else sitting here and waiting if we get a prepatch announcement today ?

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XD

fading girder
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it's 12:48 blizzard time

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there's not going to be an announcement XD

tropic trail
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But but but I want to xD

soft flower
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If they announce it it'll prob be at the end of today uk time

frozen stratus
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12-5 pm est

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so 5-10 gmt

meager badger
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is chromie time on ptr?

frozen stratus
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yes

meager badger
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why cant i access it?

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like i tlak to her but noting

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nothing*

frozen stratus
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uh

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level?

meager badger
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14

frozen stratus
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which chromie are you talking to?

meager badger
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the one outside the embasssy

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where u do allied races

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i thought that was the one

frozen stratus
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okay yeah thats right

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yes

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nothing happens?

meager badger
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let me run over to her again i tried 2 days ago

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that took forever lmao

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thats what happens

strange falcon
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i heard there was an option to change expac after you chose it

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maybe that's whats not working

meager badger
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i never chose one on this character though

strange falcon
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also the chat is a classic of comedy

meager badger
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trade chat peepoW