just making a statement since that image gets thrown around little too much
#beta-ptr-spoilers
strange falcon
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there isn't an release date
@zealous basalt 27 september its a comercial strategy
27 august* i mean
zealous basalt
And why Aug 27?
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gamescom
mossy perch
no
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blizzard will say the release date on the gamescom
worn sand
maybe he should learn to speak with his mouth instead
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delayed game can still be shit,and sometimes not delayin a game can be more beneficial
@strange falcon I learned this in software engineering.
My professor always said that the important thing is how you use your time and above all the previous study that the project has
worn sand
ok
except it's a known fact
that the later an expansion comes out
the better it is
because they're allowed to put more work into it
hot salmon
They're polishing/finalizing launch content
But you'd be naiive if you think they aren't already working on 8.1/8.1.5 at this point in time
strange falcon
i'm sure they are
they mostly doing tuning for numbers now
the art team has been done with launch content for a few months
zealous basalt
why would they work on 8.1
pulsar minnow
Misspelling. Force of habit. We just went through the 8.0 stuff now we gotta get used to the 9.0 stuff. I’ve done the same thing Makore
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8.1 or 9.1?
zealous basalt
😛 i know
pulsar minnow
I keep accidentally saying BFA when talking about Shadowlands too and have to catch myself
strange falcon
i had that problem with saying 7.1 instead of 8.1
worn sand
Always remember
large corporations are not your friends
they don't care when you want the product
it'll come out when it comes out
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10th november?
worn sand
we don't know
this conversation is pointless
because nothing we say or do is gonna speed it up
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agree with you
zealous basalt
the end of WoW
worn sand
right now it's in a terrible spot
which is a shame because most of it looks good
just not the core bits
sonic flame
anyone noticed that we can't make class trials?
if i go ingame it directly says i can only play 10m and then the char will lock itself
pulsar minnow
The class trials aren’t exactly finished yet from what I remember
tropic trail
All I'll say about release dates is that well based off past pre patch releases, pre patch will likely hit lives servers in October . With that being said the Shadowlands will probably launch sometime in I wanna say mid November to anytime in December. Pre patches usually last almost 2 months. Legion pre patch lasted what 12 weeks? So I think if pre patch comes in October then we can expect shadowlands to go live in mid - late November or early December.
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All I'll say about release dates is that well based off past pre patch releases, pre patch will likely hit lives servers in October . With that being said the Shadowlands will probably launch sometime in I wanna say mid November to anytime in December. Pre patches usually last almost 2 months. Legion pre patch lasted what 12 weeks? So I think if pre patch comes in October then we can expect shadowlands to go live in mid - late November or early December.
@tropic trail BFA prepatch ptr - 14th of june 2018
BFA prepatch live - 17th of july 2018
Legion prepatch ptr - 14th of june 2016
Legion prepatch live - 19th of july 2016
sonic flame
taking the past expansion's release date won't do anything
frozen stratus
we'd have less than 2 months of beta pre pre patch if pre patch went up according to bfa/legion timelines
sonic flame
they already were late on their track, now there is covid to add to iit
frozen stratus
and the fact they can't fuck it up this time
sonic flame
if you wanna take guesses, look at the state of the ptr itself, you'll be much more closer
i don't think it can go live before mid october, there are a lot of stuff to fix
if it comes sooner than october, there will be a lot of unfixed bugs
frozen stratus
plus they've only just started doing tuning on a class level
not even covenants, soul binds
legendaries are kinda being tuned
so much tuning to be done
i'd hope they take a solid month of nothing but tuning tbh...
cause they need it badly cause even with a full month of it they'd still probably have stuff super not balanced imo
tropic trail
That was just my speculation on when to expect what but yea I agree with you,I know there a lot of tuning that still needs be done so id want the devs to take there sweet ass time to get everything in order. Clear all the bugs and tune legendries and covenant abilities, etc. However I do really think that they are shooting for December release date but only time will tell
lunar fern
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That was just my speculation on when to expect what but yea I agree with you,I know there a lot of tuning that still needs be done so id want the devs to take there sweet ass time to get everything in order. Clear all the bugs and tune legendries and covenant abilities, etc. However I do really think that they are shooting for December release date but only time will tell
@tropic trail end oct-start nov
4-6 weeks on ptr and 5 weeks for expansion
pulsar minnow
Lol
My hypothesis was correct
Since Warriors learn Titans Grip at level 14, when you get the Warswords of the Valarjar you'll only have one on your back.
night swift
Wait you... dont get the main gimmick of fury until 14???
pulsar minnow
Yep
night swift
Wtf
pulsar minnow
You also don't get rampage until like 19
night swift
W T F
night swift
Bruh
pulsar minnow
I mean- it works fine. But I keep pressing my raging blow button out of muscle memory.
pulsar minnow
nobody knows.
mossy perch
its coming out right now
pulsar minnow
Q4 Fall is all we know.
mossy perch
blizzard were waiting for someone to ask the question
limpid spade
that's for SL
mossy perch
you unlocked it
limpid spade
prepatch should be a month before
mossy perch
nobody knows anything
pulsar minnow
If release date was known then it'd be on Wowhead right now
mossy perch
its all speculation
limpid spade
yeah my bad with the wording
was mostly asking
"what's the hottest speculation" kind of thing
night swift
I feel like wowhead needs to plaster a “WE DONT HAVE A RELEASE DATE STOP ASKING” somewhere
Cause that question gets asked like daily
mossy perch
the "hottest speculation" is "soon™️ "
limpid spade
pulsar minnow
My guess would be late november to be honest
limpid spade
for the expansion?
tropic trail
naw not the december
november would be for end of prepatch and start of patch
september or october would be prepatch
beta is like 80-90% finished and prepatch on ptr already started
night swift
Eeh beta is still a mess right now
tropic trail
indeed that's why i said 80%-90%
tropic trail
that would be without vampire zone questing and dungeons and raid
probably 65-80% who knows
night swift
Yeah no its like 50-60%
tropic trail
isn't basion done?
mossy perch
zones are "done" in terms that you can possibly hopefully make your way through without issues
its just some of the issues are "cant enter covenants without a DC"
and other big ones
tropic trail
yeah zones are done but like questing, dungeons
vampire zone is only one that has these i think? I don't know about basion, other such
mossy perch
and they're all still going under testing
tropic trail
mm
i guess that could be october
for prepatch to hit on retail
or november. All I need is prepatch to hit live is somewhere around september to november
otherwise i'm going crazy
frozen stratus
Patience is a virtue
Tbh i kinda hope they push it back as far as possible
I want a good expansion and not bfa 2.0
night swift
Yeah the more people say “Me want it now!” The more I cringe cause its so unstable right now
mossy perch
like yeah me too, I want to play it but.. I want to play it when it's good lmao
night swift
And I dont know if wow will recover from “two bad xpacs back to back”
If SL comes out and is bad
frozen stratus
I mean shadowlands failing would really hurt the game imo
strange falcon
so far we've never had "2 bad expacs back to back"
because the conspiratory CYCLE
has always been true so far
night swift
I hate that thats a thing
pulsar minnow
Thank goodness. We really didn’t need another one
And it’s not like any class would really fit the setting
mossy perch
I'd probably just ask for more varied specs at this point, rather than an entirely new class
frozen stratus
W a r l o c k tank
tropic trail
yeah sure i don't mind about it if they push it back so it would become bfa 2.0
PRE PATCH
IS ALL I NEED
mossy perch
technically had one of those yesterday tbh; DH tank in the cloth heirloom gear
mossy perch
BFA is still gonna exist for 3 more months even when PTR drops
frozen stratus
Or other games in the meantime
mossy perch
its not as if the prepatch event is gonna change the game wildly
frozen stratus
Play factorio
pulsar minnow
Cool. So if you love WoW you can wait a bit longer so you can love it more when it’s finished
frozen stratus
Super addictive
tropic trail
machobears still prepatch changes whole
for me
cause i've seen it with my own eyes
on ptr
mossy perch
right but you're still going to be playing BFA content
for another 3 months, as you said
tropic trail
well yes
frozen stratus
Boring ass bfa
tropic trail
customizations
mossy perch
you'll hate it when your character is worse
pulsar minnow
Customizations will be cool for a couple seconds but they’re not content
frozen stratus
Ye
tropic trail
shush
pulsar minnow
If you want new spells then go to PTR ez
mossy perch
i'm still going to log in, do dailies, log out and thats it
it's not going to change much at all
mossy perch
no lmao
tropic trail
hey u don
pulsar minnow
So we should push pre-patch out because you need to download addons?
mossy perch
if your addons take more than just pressing this, then you've got other problems
tropic trail
i'm just saying that i need to download newest addons then fixing things up like setting up
frozen stratus
I actually went and got used to the vanilla no addon experience so that when doing beta/ptr it wouldnt bother me if i had to use vanilla.
tropic trail
let's say
mossy perch
yeah i've mostly got default with like.. DBM, TRP3 and stuff
mossy perch
right but addons don't take 3-4 hours to set up?
even starting elvui doesn't take that long
frozen stratus
All i need is details
tropic trail
i need detials and other such
frozen stratus
You can even import your retail settings over
mossy perch
ok
tropic trail
still i need prepatch out on autumm
so then they can fix and other such for whatever of how long it is
i don't care
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zones are "done" in terms that you can possibly hopefully make your way through without issues
@mossy perch man this are methods fixed in a day
frozen stratus
Prepatch one month before launch
mossy perch
"man this are methods fixed in a day" can someone translate
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these*
frozen stratus
Uh
pulsar minnow
Pre-Patch may even be 2 weeks long because the storyline is so short
tropic trail
i'm not sure if prepatch once time was one month longer?
pulsar minnow
They could really release Shadowlands whenever I want. I’d rather it later so it’s finished.
I don’t want another BFA.
frozen stratus
It sucks cause activision is likely mandating it be launched in fall 2020
pulsar minnow
I don’t think Activision really has much to do with this
tropic trail
but shadowlands is looking good so far except some bugs
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4-6 weeks ptr and 5 weeks to the exp
pulsar minnow
Doubtful.
tropic trail
hasn't it been second week of prepatch on ptr?
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yes markko_cowboy
tropic trail
nice
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it was tested in the first week of ptr
frozen stratus
By activision i mean management above blizzard
Its preliminary though as far as i understand
Very early test to make sure they get it right
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this expansion has the longest alpha
frozen stratus
Its only been in beta one month
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but it has the most complete alpha ever seen, you could say it's almost beta
pulsar minnow
Uh no. The Alpha didn’t even have Covenants, Soulbinds, Adventures, Sanctums, etc...
It was just leveling and Torghast
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alphas are usually two zones
pulsar minnow
No they’re not
frozen stratus
I hope blizz gives some info soon
mossy perch
at least then we don't have to deal with hitler yoshi-p spouting off bullshit every day
god what a blissful time that will be
frozen stratus
Im just tired as fuck of the speculation
pulsar minnow
Same
They’ll release it when they want. Just stop asking. If it’s too early and things are unfinished then we’ll get pitchforks
But expecting it to come out next month is just really unlikely
frozen stratus
If it comes out next month ima be pissed
Too soon
Im not ready and neither is blizz lol
pulsar minnow
What people don’t understand is that when they drop Pre-Patch, the expansion is pretty much finished.
If I remember correctly, when BFA Pre-Patch dropped the expansion got like next to no updates for the following weeks
frozen stratus
Dang
tropic trail
well
frozen stratus
And apparently bfas beta was unusually short right?
pulsar minnow
It felt rushed. Definitely
frozen stratus
At least this time there is pretty sufficient testing opportunities
pulsar minnow
One of the funniest things I found was a river in Zuldazar that didn’t even have water in it. The water would just stop at some point. It wasn’t fixed until 8.1.
night swift
Bfa’s beta was not received very well
tropic trail
i've played wrath of lich king, cataclysm, panda, draenor, legion and bfa. I haven't even found bugs so far not even in prepatch or any
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BFA Beta = 113 Days
night swift
Especially ya know, “azerite gear dropped two weeks before launch”
mossy perch
ok but that doesn't mean there aren't any
tropic trail
exactly
mossy perch
what do you mean "exactly"
tropic trail
that there aren't any bugs
mossy perch
no
thats the complete opposite
just because YOU don't see them doesn't mean they don't exist
tropic trail
hmm?
frozen stratus
Theres lots of bugs
pulsar minnow
Pre-Patch adds the content from Shadowlands but locks it off. They’re not going to drop Pre-Patch until Shadowlands is finished. Pre-Patch and Shadowlands aren’t two separate things.
mossy perch
there's STILL a fuckton of bugs in the game that have been reported since their expansion launch
tropic trail
yes?
mossy perch
what do you mean "yes?" you're saying there's no bugs
crisp steeple
report the bug where humans don't have a scar menu
tropic trail
sigh
frozen stratus
Plus some classes could use love from blizz
mossy perch
no, explain what you mean
tropic trail
there may not be any bugs i've met while doing questing or anything
frozen stratus
Dh obv has been getting some work but it still needs a good bit imo
pulsar minnow
@frozen stratus cough WW cough
frozen stratus
Ww as well
tropic trail
but there's people who's willing to spend their time into this game to find bugs
frozen stratus
Idk how feral is doing but i bet it needs more too
tropic trail
like getting out of map so that dev can put invisible wall to stop people doing that
and other such
night swift
Yes, cause thats the point of a beta
tropic trail
but
night swift
To find bugs
tropic trail
yep
mossy perch
????
frozen stratus
Thats also the entire point of ptr
crisp steeple
lul
mossy perch
i'm so fucking confused
pulsar minnow
I don’t see the point
tropic trail
so but while doing any questing or whatever you won't find bugs
night swift
You can
pulsar minnow
I found tons of bugs leveling
tropic trail
yep
night swift
Some people can’t enter their own covenamt sanctums
tropic trail
i have found in ptr
mossy perch
there's still bugs in the game currently, from previous expansions that haven't been fixed
tropic trail
like the trial one
night swift
Oh also statues are bugged
tropic trail
and also these enemy npc does way much damage than player
night swift
Statues that use unique models have the head tracking on them
frozen stratus
Npcs are bugged too with the creepy ass staring at you
tropic trail
so let's say macho i read it wrong'
what i meant is that there are still bugs out there
night swift
The staring thing is intentional
tropic trail
not ''aren't''
frozen stratus
Yes i know im joking
tropic trail
so thank you
night swift
Lol
mossy perch
thats a very different statement, yes
tropic trail
but like sometimes that there's not much bugs then sometimes there is
like for me while i tested ptr pre patch questing new zone
i have found like 2 bugs which isn't that much
frozen stratus
Thing is right
mossy perch
sure, some people aren't going to experience all of the bugs in the game, people will see and do different things
frozen stratus
Usually to squash a bug you end up making 5 more bugs
crisp steeple
^
tropic trail
indeed true
frozen stratus
And they are also giving themselves a lot more balance work this expansion
tropic trail
frozen stratus
Over 15000 combinations for xharacter builds
frozen stratus
Theres so many systems and avenues that need balanced its going to take so much work to even remotely balance it
"Meaningful"
frozen stratus
Temp fixed already
frozen stratus
Yes
tropic trail
perfecto
frozen stratus
Really they should just delete scaling for pve and pvp
tropic trail
frozen stratus
If i get full bis gear for a patch
I should be able to absolutely stomp everything not near me in power
tropic trail
frozen stratus
No scaling
opal storm
They were fair when you could get full pvp set farming Ashran for 2-3 hours 🙂
frozen stratus
Scaling in non rated bgs is ok
But like everything else its nor
But even then i dont see the point
Because if you are leveling that way you are going to get matched with people your level
opal storm
And it is mmo ye. Gear should matter
And by matter i mean you should do more damage with higher gear, not less 🙃
frozen stratus
Yes
opal storm
As much as WoD sucked, it had the best PvP system imo
cunning fossil
opal storm
As DK main I only remember insane healing ability looking like green bubble coming from enemy to you :D
Felt almost immortal xD
Death Siphon I think was its name.
btw did anybody try unholy on PTR. I tried it but since I was in frost gear it's not that accurate. Does it feel as clunky in unholy gear too?
tropic trail
I have but.. I didn't brought damage details 
but it felt alright. There's few spells added
opal storm
When I tried in my frost gear 30% of combat I just had to auto-attack because I didn't have runes and rp
or mb I messed up the rotation and wasted some resourses
tropic trail
I see. But i'm pretty sure that ptr spells is kinda half messed up. I suggest you to wait til that prepatch hit on live so that it would be easier to test out or idk. But in my option. I'm going to wait that prepatch to hit on live
so that i can test em out without messing up
silent pebble
hi Shaman players, can anyone tell me why my lava burst has to cast while questing but in a dungeon is instant cast?
bug?
slender plover
@silent pebble If you have the Master of elements talent, you sometimes get a proc for an instant cast, and that happens more in dungeons. Normal lava burst have a 1.8 sec cast without the proc.
Atleast that is how it is in retail atm.
ancient jasper
I REALLY hope they fix the stupid bug where you try to move and get DC'd to the login screen soon.
tropic trail
does anyone know if the beta leveling experience is just as bad on the beta? I hit level 10 no taunt no interrupt and i gotta to freehold and atal
like it just sucks lol
if you are a druid the only way to keep aggro on everything in a group is using moonfire
which is insane
pulsar minnow
You don't need to go to those dungeons for story completion
Also you shouldn't be doing dungeons at level 10
tropic trail
then why can you
it seems unrealistic to allow us to do dungeons at level 10 without any interrupts or cooldowns or even taunts
imo
faint crystal
Couldn't you always que for dungeons at level 10 but can only use the dungeon finder thing at level 15 which by then tanks normally have a taunt. Druids don't though I think
sleek escarp
where is the torghast ptr server for 60 testing? its not on my list
bold stag
Wasnt the ptr just for the prepatch things?. that means no ShadowLands yet
dense plover
yes
frozen stratus
Is chromie even usable on ptr right now?
frozen stratus
Thats what i thought
That should be something tested in the main prepatch ptr right?
dense plover
when they eventually do that, yeah
opal storm
where is the torghast ptr server for 60 testing? its not on my list
That is not PTR, that is Beta stuff.
exotic knot
Been messing around on the PTR and I can't seem to continue the Legion expansion after doing the first turn in, am I missing something?
Not sure if it's due to Chromie Time or something else but I'm just completely lost
night swift
the chromie stuff isnt fully working
exotic knot
To what degree though? I can talk to her, pick my expansion and all that
exotic knot
perhaps the scaling is just not working. I found it strange to get to level 50 and suddenly have Magni say "GET YE NECKLACE"
dense plover
its not that scaling isnt working
its that they arent testing level stuff on PTR
it is not the focus
tropic trail
Can't wait for prepatch hit on live so that I can level up nightborne, mecha, dark iron dwarf, void elf and other such
fading girder
well you don't have to wait 😛
tropic trail
manic rose
are thre any vendors for gear for the players who only came back recently and wanna test?
manic rose
does he offer gear?
dense plover
yes
lime venture
I hope that with the pre-patch event they will modify the Argent tournament a little more... it makes no sense to see garrosh talking with thrall xD
(that currently happens in the ptr)
lime venture
Are we currently going to be doing quests in the Argent Tournament or not?
dense plover
not particularly? its a staging ground
and its temporary
prepatch content goes away once the expac launches
lime venture
yes, of course, but it's still weird to be on pre shadowlands story quests and see garrosh alive
even if it's temporary xd
dense plover
isnt that stuff in a dungeon?
or like - when talking to an npc for a thing?
pretty sure it doesnt "just happen"
lime venture
but that's stanced content vs world content
It's just my point of view, example, I see it as being in shadowlands and still having Sylvannas as warchief in orgrimmar
night swift
The zone is updated for SL prepatch I think
So stuff changes there
Uhh the leveling changes should resolve that somewhat
dense plover
yeah - i thought it did
its probably only phased when youve done the quests
not for everyone
because its level 50 stuff
manic rose
is the argent crusade guy not in yet? i cant find him in org at all
Any reason why my PTR is listed as WoW: Legion?
night swift
Ptr be ptr
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what was downloaded?
tranquil steeple
my PTR just updated after restarting bnet.. dunno if it was just delayed or not tho
formal dawn
seems like servers are down too
tranquil steeple
since nobody has said it yet... PTR realms are up and running again
lime venture
something new?
tranquil steeple
just the new class changes afaik.
rapid badge
New questline for 50s
And some other QoL here and there
rapid badge
Raytracing has been fixed, no more crashes or DCs so far
faint crystal
Is raytracing active in PTR? Cause it says no for me lol
rapid badge
Needs a compatible card to work
which one is yours? also check you have the latest drivers
faint crystal
I currently have the 2080 super
And apparently I have the latest driver for it
Updating pc to see if that's what I need
rapid badge
Should be working out of the box, unless RT is being deliberately disable due to client crashes I've not seen
maybe BFA areas are struggling with it a bit still
dense plover
No
It’s probably that Windows 10 isn’t on the 2004 update
Lots of devices don’t have that still
rapid badge
really? should've been the case by now unless 2004 is so buggy it's being deferred more than ever
cause i didn't even receive it on my desktop for a while
fading girder
nah i think there's a wide window before windows forces you to update
the versions, not talking about other patches
mortal ivy
Use the Windows 10 Update Assistant to check if you have it. My PC was recently rebuilt so I did not have it yet, but the Assistant grabbed it for me.
signal bone
has ptr had any updates for prepatch even since the first week iot went up?
tropic trail
does anyone know how to get to the broken isles after you take chromie's quest?
lucid flare
How do i make skada work on ptr ?
tacit hatch
Try the beta version of addons
Since that’s basically is what’s patched to ptr build wise
lucid flare
Thanks
untold hinge
You can mix artifact skin as Warrior only from Warriors specs or you can use also from other classes?
balmy lynx
Warrior weapons stay warrior. Can’t use other classes
untold hinge
Thank you
balmy lynx
A single minded fury, one using two one handed weapons, can use the prot warrior swords as transmog. Which most go on your back and can look really nice
untold hinge
Yeah, love one-handed weapon on back, like monks
night swift
It also means they can use the prot warrior flails
balmy lynx
I wish they made it on option in transmog. “Check this box to have on back, or don’t check it to have on hips”
untold hinge
In SL, can you mog only one shoulder by your choise or ?
balmy lynx
Heard rumors about that, if it’s true, then it’s not yet implemented
untold hinge
Yeah i heard too but didn't seen official news about that
We gonna see something new on Gamescom about wow?
balmy lynx
Hopefully, I personally haven’t tried looking into what they might announce or talk about. Your guess is as good as mine
untold hinge
Alright man, thanks, was good talking to you, gtg
broken kraken
what lvl is it to tame exotic pets?
my lvl 80 hunter apparently cant use her exotics anymore after copying to
ancient jasper
So October 27th
tropic trail
well thats alot sooner then I thought it would be
tranquil steeple
sure, but later is better because then more work can be put into it
tropic trail
yea I don't know how I feel about it being sooner
mossy perch
Better hope they have some super secret builds that fixes everything
Cuz now they got a month to do it
Then a month to fix the expansion
Which means zero major changes for a while
tropic trail
One can holy hope
misty blaze
yes but when is the pre patch gonna be
mossy perch
tomorrow
misty blaze
are you sure? did they say that
frozen stratus
next year
mossy perch
yeah they said tomorrow
misty blaze
thats like what the admins on my text base game keep saying when i ask them when the pwipe is
frozen stratus
a month from now jaina
mossy perch
yeah its weird isn't it
misty blaze
its a test of virtue
formal dawn
ptr down?
severe quiver
They're actually pushing the game for your casual asses
frozen stratus
im not a casual but ok
frozen stratus
O=
night swift
k
signal bone
can you not use addons on PTR?
frozen stratus
you can
signal bone
manual install?
frozen stratus
you might need special PTR versions or they might not be updated to PTR
no there is a directory in twitch
tropic trail
so now when you copy a character you get a message about the squish thats cool assuming thats what everyone will get when prepatch is live
not sure how late im to that^ lol
sonic flame
did they fix the scaling yet?
rose barn
when is the shadowlands panel today?
upper lantern
there is a shadowlands panel today? 😄
pulsar minnow
Yep. A 45 minute long panel.
upper lantern
Very nice
broken kraken
"The Newcomer Mentor System allows veteran players to give friendly advice to new players." what is this and or how does it intend to work?
pulsar minnow
basically it's just a chat channel for people to ask questions about the game and receive help rather than get trolled by Trade Chat
broken kraken
ah
stiff vector
There's no panel
Nor was one announced
There was a 15 minute showcase about Shadowlands but no news or input from Blizz
bitter flame
Are there new allied races coming in the prepatch
bitter flame
October 26 is a long ass time
pulsar minnow
<2 months isn’t that bad
arctic pendant
Pretty much I can lay in my bed and than somehow 2 months would feel like its been a week.
cinder stirrup
unborn shuttle
Hey guys, is the ptr still going for prepatxh? I'm looking but its not coming up on my client atm
worn sand
You need to sign up on your bnet account page then
unborn shuttle
Oh I see okay thanks
fervent kraken
So we are 2 months out from release now. Took about a months break now from wow and was wondering how the cavonent system has come along ? Are we fore sure not going to be able to swap between them ?
mossy perch
#beta-shadowlands can answer that, this is for PTR
fervent kraken
ah okay ty
rapid badge
Shame that the Timewalking Campaigns cut off at 50
Would love to enjoy all the expansions again without have to keep a toon at 49
Can’t say I’d recommend certain zones to level in, the quest rewards compared to running dungeons just aren’t that great
strange falcon
quest rewards arent supposed to invalidate dungeon rewards
rapid badge
True, but if you look at levelling in more recent expansions, the items at least have good secondary stats
And in classic you may usually just end up with mainstat+Stamina
strange falcon
i dont know the itemization on the beta,but given leveling is much quicker,you wouldnt be holding on to quest gear for long
rapid badge
True yeah
But having levelled a DK in the classic zones, I’m 1 day in and still haven’t replaced my helm, neck and trinkets from the iLvl19 starter gear
strange falcon
that's classic quests for you
rapid badge
The squished stats probably don’t make a difference tbh
strange falcon
the newer expacs even starting from tbc are much more generous with gear from quests
classic is very stingy,and it's known
even in the actual wow classic
rapid badge
Hopefully I can get round to testing those after I’m done with the other zones
sonic flame
is the dungeon boosting method discovered by mrgm still working there?
we should test it daily to check when and if they fix it
opal storm
I hope they fix it. Don't want boosters to have extra text to spam in chat
sonic flame
boosts will always be a thing in mmos
frozen stratus
Theyre going to boost and advertise it no matter what
opal storm
I don't remember boosting being so bad in WoD and Legion
...actually, I was playing on RU and they don't do it that much
sonic flame
wait wod had level boosting?
i remember legion with 101 twinks
but i dont remember anything of wod
opal storm
I mean boosting in general. I didn't see people spaming "WTS Mythic Blackhand whisper for price"
but like I said, RU doesn't have "boosting communities" iirc
and I moved to EU only at the beginning of BFA
opal storm
There are too many rn. Gallivix, Sylvanas, Nova, Icecrown...
Just 4 I remember
well Gally is ded
Because of them trade chat is just a spam show
that's why first thing I do on new alt is closing it
sonic flame
I dont believe in trade chat usefullness anyways, besides boosting
The new AH is amazing. If you look for something just buy on AH
gilded linden
When do you guys think Pre-patch will drop?
sonic flame
1 month before the sl release
it can't drop any sooner, there are a shitload of things to fix
austere gazelle
no later that the 29 / 30th of september
there is a four weeks pre campaign so four weeks prior the release
excluding any delay that could force them to squeeze two weeks into 1
( which can be possible )
tropic trail
kinda hope its the 29th tbh but it would be nice to get it the 22nd
ancient jasper
Yeah I definitely want it the 22nd. The sooner there is new stuff to mess around with, the better for me. xD
pulsar minnow
I’d prefer it later. The more time they have the more time they can use to actually finish the expansion
night swift
^
I really hope this isnt gonna be a rushed mess, idk if wow can recover from two bad xpacs back to back
strange falcon
i have reflect on it
and while i am fully agreeing on the idea that it's too early
there's way too many high profile games (cyberpunk to cite one) releasing in november
and it's been shown before that many great great games became "niche" because they were overshadowed by more famous games
titanfall 2 to cite a recent one
and an earlier release date plays into activision's greedy hands
so it all works out
they couldnt have done a december release because it would have overlapped raid release with christmas
and cant do january because they said "q4"
night swift
Earlier release when activision has another game coming out like 3 weeks after SL
That’ll probably make them more money
ancient jasper
I mean hell drop the Prepatch and leave it for a month or two. I'm fine with that. Just give us SOMETHING to do in the interim
grand sierra
prepatch will be on 22/23 sept, it's 2 weeks after cape cap and 1.5 monts before shadowlands it's the only reasonable date
also m+ affix rotation's reset week
unborn shuttle
Is the new leveling support to work where you get to 10 in the starting zone and then choose what expansion to level in, and you get from 10-50 in that one expansion?
night swift
Thats not fully implemented on the ptr
Ptr isn’t testing for that stuff, just prepatch
frozen stratus
that stuff is prepatch jhock
idk before I was saying "It's just prepatch event cause SL is so far away, there'll be a more in depth ptr later" but now idk
just weird
night swift
Ah so its stuff that needs to be ready soon but isnt
night swift
But its fine we only have two months to go and stuff still doesnt work
night swift
Watch them not fix the “you can get from 10-50 in 3 hours”
frozen stratus
lmao
dude imagine that
in 10-15 days played you could have 50 characters brought to max level
night swift
If its still there on launch I’m so taking advantage of it
Especially since ARs will be easier to get
night swift
Allied Races
frozen stratus
ah yes
golly gee
ill have so many alts leveled before shadowlands launch if that stays
night swift
Also we can cheese leveling dks and dhs with the new system since they’ll keep their high levels on creation
frozen stratus
they start at like level 8 in prepatch
night swift
Yeah but right now theyre 55/58 and 98
frozen stratus
im definitely rolling 4 DKs on my main server yeah
night swift
So they’ll be scaled to the proper level
frozen stratus
yeah
night swift
Course all other new ones will start at 8
night swift
Ye
frozen stratus
both my DHs are already level 50
frozen stratus
pretty sure its 8
worn sand
Hmm
tiny stream
What's currently available in the pre-patch?
hot fractal
Everything but Shadowlands itself
fading girder
yeah basically it's SL with a flag disabled for access to the zones/quests
i think that's how they do it
expansion time comes, flag gets set, quests and zones become available, kinda like how the darkmoon faire portal phases in or out at the scheduled time if you're in Elwynn/Mulgore.
I could be wrong though
much edits
worn sand
my own levelling gear
is too high level now
this is a 116 paladin copied from live
lowest ilvl piece I have
strange falcon
yeah,the lvl squish fucked up a lot of things
mostly because the programmers at blizzard did what any other programmer did,and take the "easy" route and make things related by the specific level number
rather than a variable
so when they squished it,it still thinks you need to lvl 90 to enter pantaria shit etc
strange falcon
currently at least from what community says,ret is the only spec of paladin in "a bad state"
strange falcon
to me it seems like they havent gotten to tuning paladins yet
all the other classes have gotten shuffled around talents and changes etc
worn sand
cavalier is still the worst thing ever
wanna switch targets in pvp?
best let literally everyone on azeroth know
ffs
strange falcon
ah yeah i remember the savix video
he was complaining holy and prot were gud,and ret had no shit
and was getting decimated by casters
strange falcon
are they immune to slows/stuns while using cavalier?
could be a decent way of making it work
worn sand
NOPE
fossil stone
ptr only down for me?
ancient fractal
So quick question as I didn't try beta and with how much I'm doing on live I can't really make myself touch ptr. But I digress... From what I heard on Rogues, Assassination and Sub are good. Covenant wise, at least by reading the abilities I guess Necrolord is optimal?
My meaning is, how does it feel playing Rogue right now?
fossil stone
@ancient fractal a friend of mine played rogue in legion and tried it today in beta he said he liked how sub and assa plays but outlaw changes just felt weird for him
jade shore
ancient fractal
@fossil stone Yeah from what I’ve read an seen on YT Rogues feel unfinished and quite buggy. Outlaw was always in a bad spot, so I’m fine with just forgetting about that spec outright and just have the assassination and sub.
I haven’t tried ptr, but if my assumptions are correct. It’s most likely MoP and BFA
Not Wotlk 100% as the quest npc density was always not great.
At least from experience playing the expansions when they launched. Speed wise, at least for me. It was BFA>MoP>WoD>Cata>TBC>Wotlk>Classic
Actually put Legion before wod
Bfa>MoP>Legion>WoD
unborn shuttle
I checked out Chromie on the PTR and it looks like BFA leveling isnt on there? Will it be?
"New players will be sent to level through Kul Tiras or Zandalar, as Battle for Azeroth was the most recent expansion. This will help new players feel like they aren't left behind, ensuring they can get caught up to the most recent portion of WoW's storyline without having to go through additional loops.
Veteran players will be approached by Chromie, who senses they have done Battle for Azeroth before - And offer them the opportunity to level in the expansion of their choice! You will be able to choose your "
From that it looks like new players can do it, and Ive done it before, but I wanted to level up in the BFA zone for Horde since I havent done that yet. Will I just need to find the quest for it after Exiles Reach?
dense plover
no, because BfA is the default without chromie time
you just go straight in if you dont talk to chromie
and no, new players can not do chromie
they have to do BfA once
unborn shuttle
I see okay sweet, thanks!
worn sand
You know what's strange? My character feels better to play on ptr than on live
I have less haste
but I feel like I gain more haste from procs
even though I don't think I do...
misty blaze
wait wait isnt BoP supposed to be paladins bubble from damage
night swift
thats divine shield
ionic sphinx
lol. this is awful
strange falcon
yeah they put the draenei backwards walk on everyone
ionic sphinx
i think its just the normal running animations but backwards and slowed down
vivid harness
muted locust
report it to bliz
oblique quail
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/590604908223528960/750052118311993364/unknown.png alliance blood elf death demon hunter knight (found this bug trying to faction change/race change a DH on ptr)
sudden oak
Demon Knight sounds the best tbh
tropic trail
death hunter sounds cool while in shadowlands since it's like you are hunting souls in maw 
sudden oak
death hunter is the group that simps for dark ranger
ancient jasper
I would 100% play a Demon Knight. xD
DK was my main until Legion hit then DH was. A combo of both? I'm down. 😄
tropic trail
that could work 😄
dull flame
soul hunter would be a nice name
tropic trail
true
wispy perch
any1 can help me kill out an elite mob?
night swift
server, region, zone, boss?
slate loom
Can you make premade characters on PTR?
ancient jasper
Not that I've seen
ancient jasper
I.. don't think Class Trials are what they meant.
frozen stratus
you can just make class trials directly on ptr
frozen stratus
oh wow
austere gazelle
another shiba ! Doges are invading 😏
digital estuary
strange falcon
in #no-wow-discussion it's the eternal battle between shibes and anime profile pics
digital estuary
dun forget about picrews
limber mural
shibes vs weebs
sullen dawn
any room for a horse?
worn sand
PTR servers are down
mossy perch
worn sand
feck
jade frigate
Why ptr servers down???
storm marsh
there is a new build
jade frigate
@storm marsh whats that mean?
storm marsh
new update
jade frigate
Oh any clue what kind of update we getting?
rapid badge
Some global cooldown removals, haven't noticed anything else for just ptr yet
worn sand
Do we know when they'll be back up?
weak bison
idk
bright trench
servers are down currently right? not just me?
oblique nexus
yea
worn sand
oof PTR laggy
ivory meadow
a very small change I personally hope they do in the future is change the animation of dispatch when using a mace because you do a stabbing animation for a mace; it should be an overhead attack like Rampage's for ex.
bright trench
is the ptr the pre-patch or is it a different form of shadowlands beta?
ivory meadow
pre-patch
bright trench
weak
tranquil steeple
it's almost as if there's an intended difference between PTR and alpha/beta who'd have thought 
faint crystal
surprised pikachu
tropic trail
Sooo so far the rewards in this pre patch are kinda meh however what I would like to see is a revamped model of the Argent Charger mount as the pre patch mount
forest sphinx
I've been leveling in the pre patch from start. So far, I'm enjoying it
faint crystal
Is there a situation where a duel 1h fury would beat duel 2h
forest sphinx
I'm not sure if it's a bug or if's my heirloom gear but did the level up animation is super cool
frozen stratus
its heirloom gear
faint crystal
Could be wrong chat again
frozen stratus
yes it is unless you mean on PTR
faint crystal
Can we 1h fury in PTR?
frozen stratus
everyone is on ptr
frozen stratus
honestly wowhelp is probably the best channel for that question
or retail wow if that is a retail wow question
but wow help is probably still best
ancient jasper
Yeah they brought back Single Minded Fury for Fury, Uoz.
rapid badge
anyone wanna try any instances later?
rapid badge
Exile's Reach still broken
end up with no progress upon arriving at sylvanas
think they added a cinematic though so that's something
sonic flame
they fixed a bunch of scaling issues
i can now 2shot legion mobs as level 50
and mobs in bfa content seem easier to kill
the mobs inside bfa dungeons are still tough as hell tho
30k hp for a mob in a normal dungeon is ridiculous
forest sphinx
Does anyone have a list of addons that work on the PTR/Beta
worthy tartan
how do you become a ghoul?
worn sand
get killed by a ghoul
mossy perch
worthy tartan
Is the stress test still on?
uncut lintel
stiff gazelle
Can we see what the mounts look like before voting? Seems weird to just go off of a description lol
peak fern
they could've shared some concept arts, that would've been nice
red raft
frozen stratus
Wow
tropic trail
im cool as long as we get the book or ancient lol i dont want another cat
worn sand
but it's possibly a jellycat
tropic trail
its still a cat
faint crystal
We are apparently getting caterpillar mounts already? Unless a comment lied to sway the vote
peak fern
there will be bug mounts from Ardenweald
slate loom
The wowhead pages says leveling will be 60-70% faster. Faster than what? Plain 1-120 or 1-120 with 100%buff, heirlooms, pots etc?
lucid flare
Is there some way to use weak auras on ptr ?
orchid lodge
The wowhead pages says leveling will be 60-70% faster. Faster than what? Plain 1-120 or 1-120 with 100%buff, heirlooms, pots etc?
@slate loom basically something like that https://twitter.com/DesMephisto/status/1283946286257893376
slate loom
Thank you..and what is the average Player Time with 100%Buff and Fu heirlooms on Live?
sonic snow
We have any clue when pre-patch is dropping?
violet karma
sterile cape
Does anyone know what happens to level boosts when the level squish hits? I've been hanging on to my 110 and 120 boosts from buying expansions and I am wondering if I should pop those before the squish.
sterile cape
Isn't 60 the new max level and 120 goes to 50?
tropic trail
i am so confused
night swift
about?
tropic trail
the leveling system
night swift
what about it
tropic trail
why is they doing a leveling squish
night swift
because numbers are too high
tropic trail
are the pvp bfa sets transmog are solb by npc in the PTR ?
tropic trail
Opened PTR and damn these customization options are amazing
frozen stratus
I know right
tropic trail
Like damn some races I actually want to play now
Going to switch him to a Hunter to try that out
tropic trail
Damn I've reported quite a few bugs
frozen stratus
thats good
tropic trail
Slightly confused right now
I've encountered a bug on An Urgent Mission quest where when I talk to the Warlord nothing will happen... So I don't know if I am just stuck here now or what
Going to try and use my hearthstone and go back
Looks like you just can't complete it right now, I'll skip it
dense plover
do you mean an urgent request?
tropic trail
No
dense plover
screenshot?
tropic trail
I already sent in a bug report, other people are experiencing the same bug
tropic trail
It's a new quest after Exiles Reach
tropic trail
dense plover
yeah thats on purpose
they arent testing leveling on PTR
that quest works on beta
tropic trail
Ah
dense plover
its the modified lead in to BfA
dense plover
tbh M+ is mainly being tested on beta'
people testing M+ on ptr arent exactly providing much feedback outside of scaling issues
tropic trail
You can cut through the PTR restriction by just being an allied race it looks like
frozen stratus
true peach
dense plover
but that doesnt mean you are providing useful feedback lime coffee
ptr is your opportunity to earn beta
getting around the stuff they want tested instead of testing that stuff will not help you
tropic trail
I know, I am still giving feedback on the way
Everyone else has already done it, damn
And reach level 50 in PTR
But yeah I'm not going to be doing that if you think I shouldn't
dense plover
the things they want tested are the NPE, the prepatch quest stuff, and customization options
also possibly legion transmog stuffs
tropic trail
Alright! I'll do that then! Thank you
And found a bug withing Pandaren Customizations
And another one in Blood Elf
dense plover
yeah - those are valuable, report them
frozen stratus
peach is like the yoda of bug finding
tropic trail
I feel like the Customization screen in general just feels off? I know it's unfinished but still
pine palm
What lvl are the mobs in ICC in prepatch?
dense plover
its not unfinished
thats about how its going to look
might get a bit more art
but its unlikely
tropic trail
Yeah
tropic trail
Replaying PTR, think I was wrong earlier! The Customization feels right
tropic trail
Love the Afro
I love the new marker as well as it actually shows if it is above or below me
keen bloom
have you guys had issues getting in to PTR ?
getting this issue, not sure how to resolve
tropic trail
Let me check it now
No I don't
It looks like some part of the download is missing based on that code
I'd recommend redownloading it and if it continues file a bug report
strange falcon
@keen bloom it seems like at some point in the code(specifically during process 4604),it's trying to read some data at 0x000007ff....... but that memory's pointing to basically empty space(that's why the fffffffff) and thus it's running into an access violation because that part of the memory is not supposed to be read