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I also predict the factions will be softened but not removed in 10.0. I'd like to see reputation get remade into more of an expanded covenant/faction system. So while orcs couldn't join the alliance, both humans and orcs could join the bloodsail Buccaneers for example and play together there
id still imagine the blood elves being abit pissed about the whole sunwell thing
Raiding can just be anyone can play together
Thay say you keep lore continuity for the most part
*way
They won't ever remove the factions, but I do agree that there will be softening (if only so that racials won't need balancing)
Warmode could be honoirbound/7th legion and be led by people who srent happy with the co-operation
Even better would be if you chose bloodsail for example, you're be at war with other factions. The 'at war' rep function never really got used and it's a real shane
Agreed and they shouldn't remove the factions imo
They wouldn't replace horde/alliance as your core faction. They'd be more like expanded covenant/order hall system
But with quests/pvp/events attached to them and ability to play/group with anyone who joins
@sullen dawn I've been calling 10.0 since 7.0 check and mate
Personally I think rep should lay with your race. Each race then soft tied to a faction. You can choose to betray that faction but you're still a member of that race's society.
So factions built up like covenants, for example the druidic races all share a faction, the smithing/engineering races all share a faction. The tribal races share a faction etc.
Yeh similar ideas! Yoj could join cenarion circle or argent dawn
Most wouldn't count as betrayals though as those are pretty excepted factions. Maybe bloodsail or ravenholdt would make you an enemy of horde/alliance
I'm thinking new factions based on race relations. IE if you're a Nelf you start out hated with undead. Maybe a race can belong to multiple factions? So like orcs can be tribal or mechanical. Dwarves can be mechanical or natural, etc
Night elves hate sylvanas and horde in general more than just undead
Horde vs Alliance seems kind of outdated, yes and a lot of players cheered when a girl at Blizzcon asked whether it'd be possible to "play more together" BUT I think that Horde vs Alliance situation is now a very tight corset. No idea how they could achieve an easy smooth feeling change from those two opposite groups to factions.
For example: think about all the Horde/Alliance merchandise! 😅
Easy, shadowlands + time skip + return to remade Azeroth suffering incursion from "X" villan group
For characters like Tyrande a time jump won't be very impactful to her so her being in Shadowlands won't be an issue
Now if they bring Anduin, that kinda foils the plan
Also Old Horde and Old Alliance can still be 2 of the factions, those who refused to let go of the old ways
we're not asking about dissolving horde and alliance
we're asking the same treatment as NPCs get
aka
WORK FUCKING TOGETHER
when even in Eternal Palace you have horde and alliance NPCs side-by-side working together
why can't the PCs
Yeah again, not saying dissolving of factions, just alternate options
when druids in Moonglade can talk to each other no matter the race
why can't the PCs
these are outdated concepts of 15 years ago
apparently druids are very eager to take a side anyway
cough darkshore cough
There are other factions such as the cenarion circle that serve that faction first and foremost
Yeah you can be a member of the horde who's in the circle, but there's members of the circle that care more about natural order than horde vs alliance
you can still have tension between two factions without forciing a barrier
Mhm via racial tension! Which wow began with
See the wow og cinematic
Dwarves vs Tauren, orcs vs night elfs, etc etc
GW2 also has high racial tension
you can still pve together because there's no reason not to
and if you want to kill each other, you can just turn on war mode for pvp again in wow
but otherwise you're in cross-faction pve mode
I hear you and I think so, too. It's kinda sad, that the player are open to that concept of working closer together (and yes some 15+ years of working side by side so often and still being too stupid to understand each others language even a BIT is strange) but I got the impression that Blizzard is afraid of letting go of that mentioned "tight outdated concept" and that may be because they.. ... ... okay, no idea why.
yeah, that's one thing I like about GW
that'd be a splendid system
"I want to play with Alliance/Horde" - turn off warmode
"I want to kill Alliance/Horde" - turn on warmode
maybe too easy? XD
The difficult thing would be guilds
However, historically guilds are supposed to be seperated from political houses
So set up your guild outside of the many faction options, and have factions like the system in Shadowlands
my hope for 10.0 is a big time travel in the future like 10.000 years with a new story
fresh start
You could do that with a 30 or 100 year gap...
friend of mine said he wants WoW2.0 ^^
Blizz already basically said that's not happening
yepp 😦
They made that decision when they said no wow reforged
^^^
30 years is enough
30 years later
It means things will have changed but there will still be a link to existing lore and characters
They are called now just elves
I'd like to see some more cities including neutral ones. Also make all cities useful so people dont just cram into one
Have different reasons for players to hang out in SW, Ironforge, Dalaran etc..
Speaking of...dalaran should go home:p
4 days but still no 8.3 trailer 
Theres has been boss
@mighty wolf
Get ready to fight against the madness of the Old God N’Zoth January 14 in Visions of N’Zoth—the final, climactic major content update for Battle for Azeroth!
Allied race tutorial video for mechgnome and vulpera: https://youtu.be/bKxVLnD0x-M
For the latest updates, visi...
survival guides are just recaps for the incoming update
Ahh kk
4....more....days
Did they change the canopy on the vulpera mount on the ptr?
in what way?
they made it so that it doesnt fly around with the mount anim, if thats what you mean
ye, and u can take it off whenever u want
@uncut lintel what vulpera are you making then u.u
shaman
Hm.. Vulpera might be my first Warlock ever.
go for it, demo lock fun fun
seems a bit much
its not
hes been doing this for months
today is the first time he has posted something that isnt a link in forever
ah I see
If anyone doing 8.3 PTR raid testing has Unguent Caress (Ny'alotha fist weapon from Ra-den), please let me know; trying to test its corruption.
Anyone know if there's fast travel to the new invasion zones in 8.3?
be friends with a mage 
seemingly not Vale, but Uldum has a portal in the respective capitol cities
yeah you have to go org -> uldum
you can also fly from silithus
for vale, you can use the pandaria portal then take the flight point to vale
or make your HS there
I'm still annoyed they moved the portal destinations to MoP
guys, i have a question about paragon chest
people is saying that in case you acumulated 19.999 rep you should turn 1 chest in the first week of 8.3
and save the other one for the second week
but i don't get why
anybody knows?
Artifact Knowledge, is my guess
since the paragon rewards the same amount of AP regardless, and AK will bring down the requirement for next HoA level
it honestly boils down to getting as much AP as possible after you can start getting it again (for those who have HoA level 70, atleast)
and then making the AP in the next worth more by waiting a little bit more
then on only gonna turn in 1
and then turn the other in the first week if i reach 19.999 again
i guess
hi guys what are the best classes for horrific visions?
All?
They scale based on number of players
Tbh it’s more about specs
You probably want tank and dps
Maybe tank dps and heal
The best classes to solo will likely be the same classes that are good for cheesing group content (warlock for drain life, Demon Hunter for super leech, Paladin for 3 health bars, and Hunter for pet shenanigans )
I'd recommend against classes like Rogue and Mage since their fragile and don't have adaquete "cheese" strengths (rogue doesn't have any self sustain and low aoe, mages are super fragile, etc)
Speaking of demon Hunter, remember the days when you could solo top level dungeons as vengeance demonhunter?
I remember betting assault on violet hold on mythic as a tank demon hunter all by my lonesome
Tbh, I don’t think you’re right. Pure dps and health isn’t enough because of corruption and the insanities. I think you’ll see Blood DK and Brew at the top for solo, but I suspect nearly everyone to be doing small group
Though pet stuff might substitute some of that, and that is a valid point
Since they don’t suffer those effects
Cry's in mage
👏hunter 👏tank 👏 spec
i did some pretty good dmg at the start of eternal palace
but as soon as the ilvl kept going up in my raid
i kept going down
they were never instanced, I dont think
what little of them I did in early PTR, there were always other people
theyre basically what the title says, smaller versions of the big capitol visions
in Shrine/Ramkahen depending on the invasion thats up
Oh, hm
You can get whole vessels from the invasion chests btw
not sure if just n'zoth ones or what
but a nice bonus
If I looted one Glaive of Azinoth on my DH but haven't done the BT quest, will I be able to mog it on patch day?
No, still need to do the black temple achievement
No they made the warglaives stay behind the achievement
And it ls only gonna be for demon hunters
The Warglaives was made a special case, being locked to DHs only (as it is currently), and all the other legendaries either locked to classes that can equip them, or for the Quest related ones, locked to classes that can do the quest for the legendary
as far as I can tell from https://www.wowhead.com/news=305559/visions-of-nzoth-legendary-weapon-transmog-updates atleast
People are super pissed about the warglaives
Yeeeaaah, justified, but at the same time I can also understand Blizz wanting to keep the Warglaives as a "cool factor" for DHs
cant you farm the black temple ones? or is the BS that the regular ones CANT be mogged?
The BS is that in 8.3 ONLY DHs can mog the Warglaives, despite Warriors, Rogues, Monks and Deathknights also being able to equip them
Yeah, but on the other hand they're the only legendaries DHs can use
Which is why I'm neither opposed to or for it being like that
I just don’t understand why the DH ones can’t just be special as being actual warglaive animations
And leave the regular ones as sword anims
^
punishing people who went and sought the item out, spent time grinding it
they even created a special Black Temple Timewalking thing
That's a good middle point, honestly
and then they just fucked all of those people over
do u need lvl 70 heart to do shit in 8.3?
i been just getting levels pasively im at 63
^facts
Level 70 HoA shouldn't be a requirement, pretty much all mentions in regards to maxed HoA level is Paragon saving for 8.3 for maximum value
gj
The more they push stuff for the heart the more I dread coming back and having to grind it
and prolly like 2 months after a friend of mine got theirs to 70
'cause all AP I get is usually just emissaries that give AP or missions.
ye
I feel that if anything, you should focus on getting as many essences as you can, and if possible, as many of those you get to rank 2, and maybe 3 if it's not too hard to get
rip i only have the 2 beginner ones
now sure how to get others
not*
not even sure waht feral needs
Well if you shift right-click the Heart, then mouse over the locked essences you can see what you need to do to get them
bruh i didnt even kno u can look at it like that
are they hard to get...?
im guessing all the good ones are mythic+ and raids
im limited lol, i dont pvp, raid, or do much mythic+ xx-xx
The Feral Druid essence guide says Conflict and Strife (PvP for 500 conquest for R1) is best for single-target, then Worldvein (Island Expeditions - ~130 less) and third Condensed Life-Force (Raid, ~500 less than Worldvein)
for feral you want Blood of the Enemy, ideally
Its the best for ST, all types of content, and just in general
it says battlegrounds on it, do i jsut grind bgs?
Rank 1 is just winning a PvP island, normal and epic battleground.
The quest is called something like 'Storm the Battlefield'
1x standard BG win, 1x Epic BG win (Alterac Valley) and 1x PvP island expedition
All three needed
The other best ones come from TEP or Conquest.
Conquest is easy enough to do, and can be done pretty passively just by opening cache drops with war mode on, and incursions with wm on.
If youre not too fussed or worried about essences, you can hold off until next Tues/Weds, cause the 8.3 intro one is going to be pretty good for feral too
It doesnt have to be any way.
You dont need to have a certain one.
tbh even by looking at having an essence youre already doing more than most players lol
Thats just for BiS
^
oh ok
Yea after posting the message about "Feral Druid essence guide" I wrote, I was going to say "but honestly? just go for the ones you feel like you can go for"
yea
Any essence is a good essence.
A handful of them are <1% better, but require more effort to get them 😛
I haven’t even looked up the BiS essences/gear for my main haha
For me the effort isnt always worth it, so I dont bother lol
I like to know what is BiS, but I dont exactly push hard to get it lmao
hell, trust me, I'll pick talents I like running instead of what's best
Survived a +10 today though, so I feel like I’m not terrible lol
it might end up being the case that the talents I run are partly the best
but I'll easily stray away from what's best just for the sake of "I wanna try something different"
I didn’t think I was going to get into m+, but they’re actually pretty fun haha
Ultimately the ones you are most comfortable playing with are the best for you lol
I might take a passive talent instead of a BiS active one, cause I know I'll only forget to use it and Id rather have a % increase instead
Relatable lol
tbh all i want to do is lvl my fox and get an alpaca mount
I keep telling myself I need to get a mouse too
I too, want both of those things haha
ill buy a raid boost for the dragon mount later on
cuz i am N OT missing out on that unique dragon
Which one?
One of the things I want the most is to transfer my luck from LoL to WoW
Ohh
The void thingy
Mythic drops the eyeball squid
i love the dragon so much
I’m too poor to buy boosts lol
Good thing theres usually free ones 😉
That...is a little poor yes lol
yea i cant keep gold
Final Fantasy has ruined me with its economy
I can have like a million gil and thats still poor
never played so idk
So I look at wow and see 120k and think “thats like chump change”
rich
I’ve got about 250k on horde and 50k on alliance
still rich
People like to charge a lot for boosts
how much will it be for this raid?
I’ve never bought one, and I probably never will
i hope its not like 600k FOR UNIQUE DRAGON
Ok roughly 360k, so I was right in the number range.
and what I have isn't much compared to a friend of mine, but by no means little either
It’d be more than 4K xd
xD
just a "tiny" bit more 
Lol
i remember buying the moose for 30k in WoD
Ik how it feels to have scarce amounts of gold though
I was constantly hovering around 15-30k total during Legion
I boosted once for the monk mt skin
I bought one of the pterrodax mounts and cried a little
i still need the spectral one
Then got a free carry for the sparkle bird from antorus
i wanted sparkle bird ; - -;
I asked my guild if I could bring my (at the time) gf along for a HC argus kill so they could get the mount
I was in the friendship bird discord and the first stream I joined I got picked first lol
Noice
and since we were decently geared at the time it was fine
damn accidental 'Enter' presses
@uncut lintel levels below 70 on the neck are insanely easy now
like, my druid is neck 66, to get to 67 only takes 1k AP
i got to 64 lol
Im going to go see how many levels I get from completing one AP emmisary
Is it common for people to play PTR more than live
Or like
Do you think PTR has people that play it more
Is that a thing
because I see level 120s on PTR alot
unless you can get there pretty easy
You can copy your 120 to the ptr.
oh
nowadays I do play ptr more than live but that is for work purposes. I have seen some names repeatedly over the course of BFA PTR, though. I know there's a russian paladin that is always ganking people in Boralus or, in the 8.3 cycle, in Uldum.
There's a pretty dedicated group of Vulpera Roleplayers that have been playing PTR exclusively since the 8.3 ptr opened, I hear.
Deffo.
They're just gonna make the characters on Live as well and continue where they left off.
they never really shut down PTR realms so in a way, it is a free way to play WoW, as you can access the PTR without a subscription.
I imagine the few people that do that can get quite bored though, as you can't do a lot of content and it gets (even more) deserted when the game is not in an active PTR cycle.
@hasty tendon 🤔
@strange falcon 🤔
🤔
Does anyone expect a CGI cinematic for 8.3?
We kept getting one each patch, so it'd make sense for 8.3 to receive one as well
Think its gonna be on patch release day
CGI I dont think so, would be nice but I doubt it
CGI N'zoth is inevitable
no
that such a cute fennec 🙂
So there was this Q&A between Ion and Millenium apparently and Ion said there’s no plans for 8.3.5 😧
Ive been saying that for a while
Evidence is all in the files
Stuff like the peace treaty are all epilogue material
Yeah true
A bunch of the dialogue for this patch is labeled 8.3.5, and is coming out in 8.3
Probably cancelled it to focus on shadowlands
They most likely just squished the content into the patch proper for the sake of getting to Shadowlands alpha
^^
Blood War Ending Alliance Cutscene - Spoiler (Patch 8.3)
Blood War Epilogue Horde Cutscene - Spoiler (Patch 8.3)
tyrande is going evil 100 % its not even subtle
i think tyrande is going to betray anduin imo
Lmao missing a few AR leaders i noticed
Is there just 3 cutscenes?
he asks, 8.3 not even being on live
which means encrypted stuff not being visible yet
wow the horde one is so bad
Tyrande got that bloodlust goin' on.
Yeah, she's gonna be the new Jaina... "Kill them all!"
Death Knight Intro Cutscene in Patch 8.3 (Spoilers)
Warcraft 3 Reforged videos:
Teldrassil & Darnassus https://youtu.be/gPwGHotYXhI
Stormwind Recreated: https://youtu.be/4ZT_JT7d6CQ
Gilneas Recrated: https://youtu.be/BkBFEkUknio
Silvermoon Recreated: https://youtu.be/INJrfi2...
not really satisfied with DK one
i see they're saving Bolvar new model for Shadowlands. I kinda hoped he was encrypted.
Yeah same :/
Uldum N'zoth Assault Intro Cutscene
#Uldum #Nzoth #Cutscene
Ra-den's Fate Cutscene - Patch 8.3
#Nzoth #Cutscene #RaDen
another good ol' expansion where the pandaren leaders get to do actual nothing
Sip yall
At least they are in the cinematics
is that all the cinematics that were added?
Prolly just the ones we can view
@uncut vault I can't find any reference to 8.3.5 in the files myself?
eeeep
no 8,35 😦
those arent really cinematics anyway, just in-game cutscenes
cinematics are never viewable until patch goes live
also
i dont think those are right\
VO files arent named in the files
someone named them that
like, a 3rd party
all files by default are just strings of numbers as of 8.0 or 8.1
Is this fake? I found it on Facebook
So. We'll get the last AR pair in the prepatch it seems
@storm marsh
bruh
we've had that fake linked to us quite a few times 
really though, if youre gonna fake a wowhead article
at least capitalize the title correctly 😛
It's treason, then.
weekly cloak cap ties into my idea that the week after lfr is 8.3.5
its the same timeline
they confirmed no 8.3.5 today
First of all, just to get it out of the way, we currently don’t have any 8.3.5 plans — there may be some small systems tweaks or updates for stability between now and Shadowlands, but Visions of N’Zoth is really the concluding chapter of Battle for Azeroth, and we’re excited to focus our attention on Shadowlands and the upcoming beta for Shadowlands that’ll be opening up over the course of the year.
from Ion
betting on 33051 being the build
since it was just pushed lol
well that's a good sign
@dense plover
I hope they aren't planning on using this build tomrrow lol
nvm
fixed 😄
so do we turn in our isalnds quest and save the map for tomorrow?
Yes
ty
what orgrimmar will look like today and tomorrow https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/329807329245659147/666439474388926464/NTy4GV6ooFRqCmQLhs7ZoybsrgTuvSTU2pMGE9589LUHtohLtnvkXSuTSmfCnkZLg8kF3YKKiMep1zmWVdwhvTH11QXHGNtQVXeK.jpeg
lmao
they going to work all hands on deck on shadowlands like they abandoned wod completely after hellfire citadel xD
I wouldn't say I'm surprised tbf xD
its been a rumor for months, I'm not surprised
so I've got a dumb question that I don't see in the guides
The Curse of Stone book and the torn pages and the Fear and Flesh book
do I get those at the END of the horrific vision automatically
or do I need to find them INSIDE of it?
From eu - how many hours till patch goes live in US? I wanna see cinematics :D
no 8.3.5 is such a bad idea
shadowlands is not as impressive as legion was to bring peps back
i dont think "peps" are really caring about impressive big posterbois nostalgia trips
rather just getting an actual good,fun,polished expansion
and doing it like this,with no 8.3.5
they have almost a full year extra
to work on shadowlands
yeah
i'd rather have them focus on SL than some really small patch.
and we know legion was very well received all things considered
besides
no one is forcing you to play wow every single day until SL
there is a lot of very worthy games out there,mostly singleplayer waiting for your attention u.u
@meager zodiac
@sullen dawn which cinematics? 🤔
first dont ping me to be patronizing
second if im spending my hard earned money on other games and i have no reason to play a messed up patch and wait for yet another underwelming expansion, might as well drop wow all together
shadowlands looks mediocre
welp, cya
i am, but its still an stupid decision of their part
what?
but not suprising considering how this game has been going
8.3.5 isn't happening? oh fucking well.
it's usually a very miniscule patch anyway.
but its at least a lil something
7.3.5 lil something was fun
it made waiting for the massive trash fire bfa was a bit more interesting, its just the devs admiting bfa was a failure witout being upfront about it
remember when SL was revealed, shortly after Blizz had reported that SL was early in development
so honestly i'm not surprised that they wouldn't do 8.3.5
that's committing meaningless resource towards that could be towards working getting alpha/beta out and getting feedback as early as possible
HEY.
you'd might as well not play SL then
they didnt even have azerite armor for most of the testing
if you're gonna have that attitude.
SL might actually be good tbh
but to say they gett feeback from beta is an abject lie
they didnt listen to islands or warfronts
they didnt have azerite armor there for most of the time
just hope the same mistakes don't repeat.
most of the feeback was taken into 8.1 an 8.2
months after it was said
literallly everyone in the beta : azerite armor sucks
blizzard in 8.2 : actualy it is bad, our bad u u
"my hard earned money" proceeds to spend said money on a game they have obviously no hope for
i havent besides a bit to try out new stuff
I kinda hoped a patch like 8.3.5 would add a vendor that sells all bfa pvp sets (non elite sets ofc) for honor marks like legion had for a whole expansion
and it all sucks
you literally said SL will be underwhelming/mediocre
this expansion was an enourmous mess that everyone predicted
i stand by opinion that WoD was much worse u.u
also they "no essences" politic was terrible
wod was worse because of no content
everything besides raids is bad in bfa
I agree that the expansion was not too great, but I was still subsribed all the time. There is always something to do. The only time I haven't been busy was a transition between 8.1.5 and 8.2
-pets vulpera- shhh it's ok
vulpera are neat
😮
but their conterpart makes me think someone in blizzard does crack
or where on crack
even then,you can always just wait a month and see what people think of SL,it's not like anyone is forcing you to preorder it and play it at launch day o.o
i just said the level of hype to make people forget about bfa
is not there
it simply isnt
Well, that's just like
Your opinion
i kinda liked bfa...a little lol
as i said,big posterboy nostalgia trips are incredibly superfluous and unnecessary if the content and gameplay IS good
if the expac is good,people will say it's good,and there is no need for a big hype machine pull for no reason
legion looked neat from the first sight, shadowlands was an whimper at best
There is no hype for SL that could make people forget about bfa?
who told you to forget BFA?
the lore community sure is hyped o.o
Yea
i am not a lore guy so i cannot comment on your words o.o
We're excited to see some characters
the one that is already retconing stuff about icecrown and the lich king?
i do too
on that point, * soft retcon,which is quite different in relevance
its still a unecessary change
"it was crafted by the nathrezim and kiljeaden to made by somethingt else
its a retcon
sush
it went from a specific artifact of the legions creation to something taken from something in the maw
i do not have the necessary proficiency to debate lore changes o.o
then why did you contest about something you werent informed then?
With no 8.3.5. Our hope for the last pair of ARs also falls in the water 😩
that's another thing 🙄
Leave. This doesn't have a BASH BLIZZARD channel name.
I know many and am personally excited for shadowlands.
There will likely be more ARs. Just not in BfA
It will probably be a while tbh
They’re focusing on core race customization for shadowlands
Which is good
Dwarves are getting wildhammer options, trolls are getting some good stuff
Hopefully Tauren get taunka options
honestly, i'm fine with the retcon; if it gives them the opportunity to create more lore about Frostmourne than they could with the current lore, i'm fine with that.
^
It’s a soft retcon
It doesn’t stop what happened in WC3
We never knew about the blade or armors creation
We just knew the legion used it to trap an orc and then led arthas to it
And then arthas wasn’t their pawn and it didn’t work out
It being tied to the SLs and crafted there doesn’t change any of that
@storm marsh whatever cinematics are kn the patch, who knows
Although they might he next week for raid
:o
So we will have to wait a week
I guess there might at least one nice cinematic during introduction quest
And I still hope we get a CGI of Nzoth haha
I know. Imagine how epic it would be
Yeh I know nothing will be datamineable
Just wondering if well get a non-raid cinematic today
Sup yall
it's me
its true for me ;))
...slowly gets space marine armor
*gets one too... cause space marine armor 💚 *
@zealous basalt so bucciarati might actually have been a vulpera
oh no
oh no
How many hours til the American Live PTR begins?
Wha
US players always test it out for us EU players first 😛
But if it's live
7 hours max
it can't be ptr
and what time does the patch come out for EU?
we should spoil the shit for the EU playars 😛
you wanna know what i'm most excited for
the rage once people meet the great worms
that's gonna be juicy
i think i like the worms
What great worms
the ones in invasion zones that slow your flight speed
i think i mis--
Ohh ye
I can call it
"Blizz tf are those worms and why is my mount speed so low"
"is this why i grinded for flight?"
ya
servers still offline though
its probably be up anytime now
i bet 15 mins
all hail the herald of gravity
I'm gonna say it. Pandaren Female Blood Death Knight.
i mean,the worms are only bad if you're being careless moron afking in the skies xd
Half the game population
its not as bad as it was
they reduced the range
used to be MUCH larger
i still dont like it tho
What time does 8.3 go live again?
So that's 4 hours from now
so what happened with that dark ranger velonara quest in scarlet halls? Scrapped? I guess there were no news since it was datamined in 8.1.5
I’ve accepted that it was scrapped a while back
She got some cheap dialogue in 8.3 and that’s all I ever expect
update?
Blizz cancelled 8.3
Is there no patch cinematic? 
you mean trailer?
no
they kinda did that with the patch announcement
there will probably be at least 1 raid cinematic
but thats next week

cant see encrypted cutscenes if you dont have a key
Wasn't there a cutscene still not datamined with Anduin though?
There was Nazjatar cinematic, but no Nzoth's?

not rendered
There was one with Wrathion
Yeah this should be find today I don't remember if the quest is related to a time gate or not
if its the wrathion intro cinematic?
there is
that should be today
servers are up, its out
Oh, i see it
Wrathion's voice
Is there just Anduin version?
I think all the budget went to the punch
a what version?
felt so confortable tbh
Wait if this is the 2 min cinematic that means there’s a longer one during the raid, and the 50 sec cinematic is gonna appear during questing ?
Are servers still not up?
Oh lol
The timing
I think both other cinematics are rais
*raid
Oh god that's horrifying
Imagine that punch in CGI
why did anduin say his father is dead because of wrathion?
Because Wrathion released garrosh
Garrosh>WoD>Gul'Dan>Legion's failed assault>Varian ded
he was basically the reason for the burning legion invading our azeroth
ah
TF IS THAT SHIT DOING HERE
omg that cinematic
the worms are there 24/7
more worms during nzoth
but theyre always there
I'm assuming the punch you're talking about is an in-game cinematic
imagine if that punch was cgi
le sigh
Man wrathion is so lame in that cinematic
I felt that it would be like how he should act
I wish he had a bit of a "I know, Im sorry" line after the punch, but other than that he was great
dont diss the beard
Hes just like "hey look how sassy I am"
He is a black dragon
Sassy wrathion
Hey I like his story and place in lore
Hes just waaaaaay too camp
Feels like comedy relief
Eh, to each his own
I actually liked it
He isn't supposed to be really serious considering he isn't that old
Dragons mature faster surely
Otherwise I wouldn't be taking military advice from a 6 year old
Anduin is young and serious
Considering he knows
More than Anduin does
I don't think age really matters but surely it shows that he is younger
and a sassy bastard
That's what I'm saying though, if hes smart enough to understand nzoth mind games hes smart enough not to be a prancing eejit
I don't think anyone saw that Anduin was going to punch him
if all i am very surprised that Anduin was
pissed
Like first time I legit see him that pissed enough
what the
ouch
I actually felt it blizz
I triggered Magni being pissed over the relay thing
wait
where is my fish
HEY
WAS THAT NORMAL?
i need help here
well more like an explanation
How is nzoth supposed to end his dialogue at the forge?
In spanish
"Unlike you my devoted followers" or something like that
did you have the eye
yes
i think he says it for everyone
he said it on ptr
eyes look better tho
they looked dumb b4
damn
oh my god
all the objectivers are still individual based
the fuck
i reported this multiple times
Few people say this but apparently it’s still tracked
So you’ve not lost it forever
anyone use Arkinventory
so is there anything else juicy besides the cinematic and trailer?
lag
hahaha
I think the page is in the process of updating. They just added N'zoth. I'm lurking because I want that wallpaper for my desktop that they posted on Instagram.
I still can't believe I'm entering a Void focused patch with this hideous Shadowform on my spriest..
dont worry ,corruption will probably improve it
^
in which way haha? Even darker lava lamp? 😛
here y'all go
level up your cloak high enough and your spec changes permanently to disc
Do you get any titan res from scrapping stuff bought today?
no
i cry
damn it wrathion
So
Stupid question but still curious
I'm at the part of going to Ny'alotha, does it mean that I have to wait for the raid next week or is it like a solo scenario?
ah nvm its the raid itself
So anyone gonna talk about how the light is tryna not stop N'zoth?
fuck
😅
i got myself fucked in the vision
again
how do you get the source for the visions
Wym
Like the
thingies for the vial
AH GOD FUCKING DAMN IT
if only they could let you revive in the vision with shorter sanity
Use the orbs
The orbs arent the problem
the endless aggro is
Wonder how many times I can repeat the vision today
you should only be doing the first boss
you should be pulling small trash packs along the way
then doing the boss
making sure to dodge the attacks
vision bottles come from wrathion
each costs 10k coalescing visions
They became static to 10k right?=
i remember the cost increasing everytime you made a vial
...
Did Gelvin became Iron Man
I was thinking, we might get a first look at SL alpha soon since there is no 8.3.5
maaybe
so uhhh Mogu allied race is possible now
dont think so since they appear to be heavily neutral and still dont like outsiders
neutrality never had a major impact on AR
yeah although prepatch ar is still a possibility, even if it's unlikely
So
Instead of being a fallen knight under the service of the plague
now they are the most honorable for the sacrifice of their kind?
...the heck is the runeforge
i think he meant politically neutral peach
Im still mad they just never gave gelbin his eyebrows back
dont know why this changed but it looks cool seeing it without all the sand or glow
And my corruption is up to 32... Crap
Jealous
And cloak by 5 at rank 1
Gilblin customization in shadowlands is looking awfully plausible
Is patch live in EU yet?
yes
Oooh awesome. Coffee and mechagnome time :D
No idea
They didn't notice that all robes are bugged. At least is on my Void Elf. There is a weird shade at the lower part
That’s N’Zoth
If anyone would like a very ratchet guide to Ny'alotha, i compiled some flashcards. https://imgur.com/a/ft0cHOP
At 1?
1 stack of debuff
Damn
huh
they added a cutscene to the Crisis at Splintertree quest
which is a ashenvale quest added in cata

@storm marsh how do you know there is no 8.3.5?
Ion said so
Ion confirmed it
↑
many people are taking no 8.3.5 as a good sign
that shadowlands wont be shit
since they have an extra year to work on it
I mean, I can see that
With no 8.3.5 I think the expansion will land in mid september - mid october
Testing starting in feb gives 7-8 months
Apparently the last wowhead article about the interview speaks about late august
it speaks about late august because thats when Legion and BFA dropped
but both legion AND bfa
had "on or before 21september or 31st august"
in their CE legal stuff
SL has "on or before december 31st 2020"
so i am expecting a november release at the earlierst
no one wants a rushed expac
well, WC3 shows they can break the date when they feel like it.
no one wants a rushed expac
is very true though
still going with a Sept/Oct release. Theyll want it out before blizzcon
Keep in mind y'all, just because there's no 8.3.5 does not mean there won't be more Heratage sets and/οr a last allied race in prepatch. Doesn't mean there will be Either, but still.
or an 8.3.2
ill bet ya a million gold it wont be out november
sounds good
It's not like they will just start working on it
Late Oct early November is the perfect time to launch, cause it gives them time to throw info about 9.1 and/or give a bigger overview of 9.0 patch content
They can do that without launching after Blizzcon tho
There’s gamescom
People forget how legion worked
Also it’s a super shitty time because when do you drop the raid?
Mythic race can’t end up over thanksgiving
So it has to be over before that
I bet mid to late August
Maybe early October
With prepatch 4-6 weeks before
Im glad you are lol
When will the raid happen then?
January?
Cuz it can’t happen in December and thanksgiving breaks that too
There is no way we’ll see it in August
Why not? It’s likely already in NDA alpha
They were further along with the demo than the Nazmir bfa demo
no one wants a rushed dumpster fire,peach
and if SL is bad
after BFA
it's a catastrophe
They’ve probably been working on this since before 8.2
The demo was BFA reskinned and with the scarce info on systems and what not it makes me think it’s way off
Isn't every expac just a reskin of anything else
Nazmir didn’t have that
It had untextured assets
Areas that sent you back
This zone was far more finished
And again, if they release that late, when is the raid?
and EVEN in the case it was far more finished,there is a big difference between "the content is finished" and the content is polished and working,well designed
legion vs. bfa
Like - you want to argue for a nov release, explain when the raid will happen
Because that determines patch release
It's always the time for release date
yes yes
Just logic I guess
So Aug looks very promising
Wonder if the people that helped in Ptr would have a chance for Beta again
Probably depends on successful bug reports
Ah
does it count if I did a lot the first two days then died 
When’s the raid release?
BFA was a successful expansion. Change my mind. Oh wait. You can't
you cant say BFA was not rushed to fit in the financial quarter
azerite had barely had a few days of testing before the expac came out
feedback was ignored that was the big problem
Didnt bfa also release a week before it was supposed to?
BFA beta 
Everything but Azerite was good about this expansion tho
lol
I feel like it's like Dreanor where the circumstances ruined the story. Like playing BFA to level a character in Shadowlands will be fun. Good story, cool characters. Same for the awesome questing in Dreanor. If Dreanor didn't have those god awful patch luls it would have been seen as a mastercraft
i think you're quite right tbh
the leveling alone is decent yes, mainly through virtue of being entirely disconnected from the xpacs main story lol
so, can i unlock Mechagnomes if i have exalted and the dungeon cleared with a horde toon?
Probably?
You should
Yeh wod arguably has the highest quality levelling zones in the game
is there a guide for farming coalescing visions¡
@novel zodiac you have to complete the questline. As long as it's completed horde or alliance you should be good
I don't understand the assaults. Is it only one major per week (as in, clear the bar then fight the commander), then 2 minis (same thing)?
or is the clear the bar thing every day
the article on wowhead is very confusing
There's one minor assault up at a time. Clear those 10 times to get currency to run the horiffic assault or once every 3ish days to get the item that let's you attempt the horrific assault
