#beta-ptr-spoilers

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urban vault
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Calia being a lightforged undead for example and technically ruling lordaron means that I'm sure some humans would wnana join the ranks of the forsaken and vice-versa

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Orcs and Tauren are now on semi-friendly terms with Anduin

sullen dawn
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I also predict the factions will be softened but not removed in 10.0. I'd like to see reputation get remade into more of an expanded covenant/faction system. So while orcs couldn't join the alliance, both humans and orcs could join the bloodsail Buccaneers for example and play together there

sharp gulch
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id still imagine the blood elves being abit pissed about the whole sunwell thing

sullen dawn
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Raiding can just be anyone can play together

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Thay say you keep lore continuity for the most part

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*way

urban vault
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They won't ever remove the factions, but I do agree that there will be softening (if only so that racials won't need balancing)

sullen dawn
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Warmode could be honoirbound/7th legion and be led by people who srent happy with the co-operation

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Even better would be if you chose bloodsail for example, you're be at war with other factions. The 'at war' rep function never really got used and it's a real shane

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Agreed and they shouldn't remove the factions imo

urban vault
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neutral factions? idk

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it's pretty fringe

sullen dawn
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They wouldn't replace horde/alliance as your core faction. They'd be more like expanded covenant/order hall system

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But with quests/pvp/events attached to them and ability to play/group with anyone who joins

plain vigil
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@sullen dawn I've been calling 10.0 since 7.0 check and mate

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Personally I think rep should lay with your race. Each race then soft tied to a faction. You can choose to betray that faction but you're still a member of that race's society.

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So factions built up like covenants, for example the druidic races all share a faction, the smithing/engineering races all share a faction. The tribal races share a faction etc.

sullen dawn
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Yeh similar ideas! Yoj could join cenarion circle or argent dawn

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Most wouldn't count as betrayals though as those are pretty excepted factions. Maybe bloodsail or ravenholdt would make you an enemy of horde/alliance

plain vigil
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I'm thinking new factions based on race relations. IE if you're a Nelf you start out hated with undead. Maybe a race can belong to multiple factions? So like orcs can be tribal or mechanical. Dwarves can be mechanical or natural, etc

vale dove
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Night elves hate sylvanas and horde in general more than just undead

plain vigil
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Right but undead are their biggest threat

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Just throwing an extreme example

bleak bolt
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Horde vs Alliance seems kind of outdated, yes and a lot of players cheered when a girl at Blizzcon asked whether it'd be possible to "play more together" BUT I think that Horde vs Alliance situation is now a very tight corset. No idea how they could achieve an easy smooth feeling change from those two opposite groups to factions.
For example: think about all the Horde/Alliance merchandise! 😅

plain vigil
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Easy, shadowlands + time skip + return to remade Azeroth suffering incursion from "X" villan group

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For characters like Tyrande a time jump won't be very impactful to her so her being in Shadowlands won't be an issue

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Now if they bring Anduin, that kinda foils the plan

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Also Old Horde and Old Alliance can still be 2 of the factions, those who refused to let go of the old ways

languid yoke
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we're not asking about dissolving horde and alliance

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we're asking the same treatment as NPCs get

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aka

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WORK FUCKING TOGETHER

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when even in Eternal Palace you have horde and alliance NPCs side-by-side working together

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why can't the PCs

plain vigil
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Yeah again, not saying dissolving of factions, just alternate options

languid yoke
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when druids in Moonglade can talk to each other no matter the race

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why can't the PCs

plain vigil
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Technically the druids of moonglade aren't tied to a faction

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That's my point

languid yoke
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these are outdated concepts of 15 years ago

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apparently druids are very eager to take a side anyway

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cough darkshore cough

plain vigil
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There are other factions such as the cenarion circle that serve that faction first and foremost

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Yeah you can be a member of the horde who's in the circle, but there's members of the circle that care more about natural order than horde vs alliance

languid yoke
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you can still have tension between two factions without forciing a barrier

plain vigil
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Mhm via racial tension! Which wow began with

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See the wow og cinematic

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Dwarves vs Tauren, orcs vs night elfs, etc etc

languid yoke
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GW2 also has high racial tension

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you can still pve together because there's no reason not to

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and if you want to kill each other, you can just turn on war mode for pvp again in wow

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but otherwise you're in cross-faction pve mode

bleak bolt
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I hear you and I think so, too. It's kinda sad, that the player are open to that concept of working closer together (and yes some 15+ years of working side by side so often and still being too stupid to understand each others language even a BIT is strange) but I got the impression that Blizzard is afraid of letting go of that mentioned "tight outdated concept" and that may be because they.. ... ... okay, no idea why.

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yeah, that's one thing I like about GW

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that'd be a splendid system

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"I want to play with Alliance/Horde" - turn off warmode
"I want to kill Alliance/Horde" - turn on warmode

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maybe too easy? XD

plain vigil
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The difficult thing would be guilds

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However, historically guilds are supposed to be seperated from political houses

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So set up your guild outside of the many faction options, and have factions like the system in Shadowlands

vernal juniper
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my hope for 10.0 is a big time travel in the future like 10.000 years with a new story

plain vigil
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Nahhhh that complicates lore too much

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Also would ruin the midevil feel of the game

vernal juniper
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fresh start

plain vigil
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You could do that with a 30 or 100 year gap...

bleak bolt
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friend of mine said he wants WoW2.0 ^^

plain vigil
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Blizz already basically said that's not happening

bleak bolt
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yepp 😦

plain vigil
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They made that decision when they said no wow reforged

tulip sun
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10k is too much

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Looking at the technology now

plain vigil
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^^^

sullen dawn
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30 years is enough

languid yoke
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30 years later

sullen dawn
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It means things will have changed but there will still be a link to existing lore and characters

languid yoke
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genn is still grey

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tyrande is still salt

sullen dawn
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Old anduin, new stormwind, elves live in mount hal etc.. etc..

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*hyjal

languid yoke
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Thrall got a jesus statue built

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orgrimmar still sucks

sullen dawn
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Ofc

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High elves are extinct

zealous basalt
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They are called now just elves

languid yoke
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Velen forgot to refuel the tank of the vindicaar

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its drifting through outer space

sullen dawn
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I'd like to see some more cities including neutral ones. Also make all cities useful so people dont just cram into one

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Have different reasons for players to hang out in SW, Ironforge, Dalaran etc..

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Speaking of...dalaran should go home:p

mighty wolf
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4 days but still no 8.3 trailer sad

lone marten
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Theres has been boss

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@mighty wolf

uncut vault
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thats not the trailer

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trailer has cinematic clips and a character voice over

tranquil steeple
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survival guides are just recaps for the incoming update

lone marten
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Ahh kk

uncut lintel
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4....more....days

dark furnace
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Did they change the canopy on the vulpera mount on the ptr?

dense plover
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in what way?

uncut vault
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they made it so that it doesnt fly around with the mount anim, if thats what you mean

uncut lintel
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ye, and u can take it off whenever u want

strange falcon
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@uncut lintel what vulpera are you making then u.u

uncut lintel
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shaman

strange falcon
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warlock here :p

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already have a sham

uncut lintel
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ye warlock vulpera sounds cool

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the shaman totems made me in love though

ancient jasper
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Hm.. Vulpera might be my first Warlock ever.

uncut lintel
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go for it, demo lock fun fun

dense plover
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seriously @tropic trail

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seriously?

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are you blind or purposefully annoying?

tropic trail
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seems a bit much

dense plover
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its not

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hes been doing this for months

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today is the first time he has posted something that isnt a link in forever

tropic trail
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ah I see

frigid crater
sterile cape
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Anyone know if there's fast travel to the new invasion zones in 8.3?

urban vault
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be friends with a mage mage

uncut vault
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seemingly not Vale, but Uldum has a portal in the respective capitol cities

sterile cape
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:/

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thanks

dense plover
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yeah you have to go org -> uldum

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you can also fly from silithus

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for vale, you can use the pandaria portal then take the flight point to vale

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or make your HS there

tranquil steeple
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I'm still annoyed they moved the portal destinations to MoP

novel zodiac
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guys, i have a question about paragon chest

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people is saying that in case you acumulated 19.999 rep you should turn 1 chest in the first week of 8.3

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and save the other one for the second week

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but i don't get why

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anybody knows?

tranquil steeple
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Artifact Knowledge, is my guess

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since the paragon rewards the same amount of AP regardless, and AK will bring down the requirement for next HoA level

novel zodiac
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that makes sense

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kinda

tranquil steeple
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it honestly boils down to getting as much AP as possible after you can start getting it again (for those who have HoA level 70, atleast)

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and then making the AP in the next worth more by waiting a little bit more

novel zodiac
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then on only gonna turn in 1

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and then turn the other in the first week if i reach 19.999 again

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i guess

ripe wave
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hi guys what are the best classes for horrific visions?

dense plover
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All?

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They scale based on number of players

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Tbh it’s more about specs

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You probably want tank and dps

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Maybe tank dps and heal

urban vault
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The best classes to solo will likely be the same classes that are good for cheesing group content (warlock for drain life, Demon Hunter for super leech, Paladin for 3 health bars, and Hunter for pet shenanigans )

I'd recommend against classes like Rogue and Mage since their fragile and don't have adaquete "cheese" strengths (rogue doesn't have any self sustain and low aoe, mages are super fragile, etc)

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Speaking of demon Hunter, remember the days when you could solo top level dungeons as vengeance demonhunter?

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I remember betting assault on violet hold on mythic as a tank demon hunter all by my lonesome

dense plover
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Tbh, I don’t think you’re right. Pure dps and health isn’t enough because of corruption and the insanities. I think you’ll see Blood DK and Brew at the top for solo, but I suspect nearly everyone to be doing small group

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Though pet stuff might substitute some of that, and that is a valid point

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Since they don’t suffer those effects

novel zodiac
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Cry's in mage

plain vigil
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👏hunter 👏tank 👏 spec

ionic terrace
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@novel zodiac same

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this is why I don't play my mage anymore 😛

novel zodiac
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i did some pretty good dmg at the start of eternal palace

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but as soon as the ilvl kept going up in my raid

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i kept going down

uncut vault
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Mage, fragile?

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This isn’t vanilla anymore lol

ionic terrace
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uhh wtf

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lesser visions aren't instanced nw

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as in, I can see other players

novel zodiac
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that is 100% a bug

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remember early WoD?

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same shit happened with the garrison

ionic terrace
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eh idk

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maybe

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weird though

tulip sun
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Wait

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What are lesser visions

uncut vault
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they were never instanced, I dont think

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what little of them I did in early PTR, there were always other people

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theyre basically what the title says, smaller versions of the big capitol visions

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in Shrine/Ramkahen depending on the invasion thats up

ionic terrace
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Oh, hm

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You can get whole vessels from the invasion chests btw

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not sure if just n'zoth ones or what

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but a nice bonus

signal bone
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If I looted one Glaive of Azinoth on my DH but haven't done the BT quest, will I be able to mog it on patch day?

harsh wedge
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No, still need to do the black temple achievement

night swift
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No they made the warglaives stay behind the achievement

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And it ls only gonna be for demon hunters

tranquil steeple
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The Warglaives was made a special case, being locked to DHs only (as it is currently), and all the other legendaries either locked to classes that can equip them, or for the Quest related ones, locked to classes that can do the quest for the legendary

night swift
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People are super pissed about the warglaives

tranquil steeple
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Yeeeaaah, justified, but at the same time I can also understand Blizz wanting to keep the Warglaives as a "cool factor" for DHs

dense plover
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cant you farm the black temple ones? or is the BS that the regular ones CANT be mogged?

tranquil steeple
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The BS is that in 8.3 ONLY DHs can mog the Warglaives, despite Warriors, Rogues, Monks and Deathknights also being able to equip them

dense plover
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yeah thats not ok

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they went and added a special mog for DHs

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thats shitty

tranquil steeple
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Yeah, but on the other hand they're the only legendaries DHs can use

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Which is why I'm neither opposed to or for it being like that

uncut vault
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I just don’t understand why the DH ones can’t just be special as being actual warglaive animations

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And leave the regular ones as sword anims

dense plover
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^

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punishing people who went and sought the item out, spent time grinding it

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they even created a special Black Temple Timewalking thing

tranquil steeple
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That's a good middle point, honestly

dense plover
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and then they just fucked all of those people over

uncut lintel
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do u need lvl 70 heart to do shit in 8.3?

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i been just getting levels pasively im at 63

plain vigil
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^facts

tranquil steeple
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Level 70 HoA shouldn't be a requirement, pretty much all mentions in regards to maxed HoA level is Paragon saving for 8.3 for maximum value

uncut lintel
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ok thx

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i just dont wanna grind my heart, im not rlly into it lol

tranquil steeple
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Trust me, I know how you feel

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I got my monk alt to 70 yesterday

uncut lintel
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gj

night swift
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The more they push stuff for the heart the more I dread coming back and having to grind it

tranquil steeple
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and prolly like 2 months after a friend of mine got theirs to 70

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'cause all AP I get is usually just emissaries that give AP or missions.

uncut lintel
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ye

tranquil steeple
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I feel that if anything, you should focus on getting as many essences as you can, and if possible, as many of those you get to rank 2, and maybe 3 if it's not too hard to get

uncut lintel
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rip i only have the 2 beginner ones

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now sure how to get others

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not*

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not even sure waht feral needs

tranquil steeple
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Well if you shift right-click the Heart, then mouse over the locked essences you can see what you need to do to get them

uncut lintel
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bruh i didnt even kno u can look at it like that

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are they hard to get...?

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im guessing all the good ones are mythic+ and raids

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im limited lol, i dont pvp, raid, or do much mythic+ xx-xx

tranquil steeple
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The Feral Druid essence guide says Conflict and Strife (PvP for 500 conquest for R1) is best for single-target, then Worldvein (Island Expeditions - ~130 less) and third Condensed Life-Force (Raid, ~500 less than Worldvein)

uncut lintel
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hmm i see

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thx

dusky sphinx
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for feral you want Blood of the Enemy, ideally

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Its the best for ST, all types of content, and just in general

uncut lintel
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it says battlegrounds on it, do i jsut grind bgs?

dusky sphinx
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Rank 1 is just winning a PvP island, normal and epic battleground.

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The quest is called something like 'Storm the Battlefield'

tranquil steeple
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1x standard BG win, 1x Epic BG win (Alterac Valley) and 1x PvP island expedition

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All three needed

uncut lintel
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oh ok

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epic BG ques are so long right though?

tranquil steeple
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Idk I barely PvP

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As far as PvP is concerned, I'm in the same boat as you

dusky sphinx
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The other best ones come from TEP or Conquest.
Conquest is easy enough to do, and can be done pretty passively just by opening cache drops with war mode on, and incursions with wm on.

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If youre not too fussed or worried about essences, you can hold off until next Tues/Weds, cause the 8.3 intro one is going to be pretty good for feral too

uncut lintel
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ok thx

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kinda with it wasnt this way....i dont do much content

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wish*

dusky sphinx
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It doesnt have to be any way.

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You dont need to have a certain one.

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tbh even by looking at having an essence youre already doing more than most players lol

night swift
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Thats just for BiS

dusky sphinx
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^

uncut lintel
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oh ok

tranquil steeple
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Yea after posting the message about "Feral Druid essence guide" I wrote, I was going to say "but honestly? just go for the ones you feel like you can go for"

uncut lintel
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yea

dusky sphinx
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Any essence is a good essence.
A handful of them are <1% better, but require more effort to get them 😛

sage rivet
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I haven’t even looked up the BiS essences/gear for my main haha

dusky sphinx
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For me the effort isnt always worth it, so I dont bother lol

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I like to know what is BiS, but I dont exactly push hard to get it lmao

tranquil steeple
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hell, trust me, I'll pick talents I like running instead of what's best

sage rivet
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Survived a +10 today though, so I feel like I’m not terrible lol

tranquil steeple
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it might end up being the case that the talents I run are partly the best

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but I'll easily stray away from what's best just for the sake of "I wanna try something different"

sage rivet
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I didn’t think I was going to get into m+, but they’re actually pretty fun haha

dusky sphinx
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Ultimately the ones you are most comfortable playing with are the best for you lol

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I might take a passive talent instead of a BiS active one, cause I know I'll only forget to use it and Id rather have a % increase instead

sage rivet
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Relatable lol

uncut lintel
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tbh all i want to do is lvl my fox and get an alpaca mount

sage rivet
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I keep telling myself I need to get a mouse too

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I too, want both of those things haha

uncut lintel
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ill buy a raid boost for the dragon mount later on

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cuz i am N OT missing out on that unique dragon

sage rivet
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Which one?

uncut lintel
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ahead of the curve

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nya...loth..something

tranquil steeple
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One of the things I want the most is to transfer my luck from LoL to WoW

sage rivet
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Ohh

dusky sphinx
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N'Zoth

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AotC drops a void dragon

sage rivet
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The void thingy

dusky sphinx
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Mythic drops the eyeball squid

uncut lintel
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i love the dragon so much

sage rivet
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I’m too poor to buy boosts lol

dusky sphinx
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Good thing theres usually free ones 😉

uncut lintel
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ima buy wow tokens cuz im also poor 24/7

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the most i have is like 4k gold

sage rivet
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That...is a little poor yes lol

uncut lintel
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yea i cant keep gold

night swift
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Final Fantasy has ruined me with its economy

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I can have like a million gil and thats still poor

uncut lintel
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never played so idk

night swift
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So I look at wow and see 120k and think “thats like chump change”

tranquil steeple
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I'm sitting on somewhere between 350k-380k across a few chars atm

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I think

uncut lintel
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rich

sage rivet
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I’ve got about 250k on horde and 50k on alliance

uncut lintel
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still rich

sage rivet
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People like to charge a lot for boosts

uncut lintel
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how much will it be for this raid?

sage rivet
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I’ve never bought one, and I probably never will

uncut lintel
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i hope its not like 600k FOR UNIQUE DRAGON

tranquil steeple
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Ok roughly 360k, so I was right in the number range.
and what I have isn't much compared to a friend of mine, but by no means little either

sage rivet
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It’d be more than 4K xd

uncut lintel
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xD

tranquil steeple
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just a "tiny" bit more Kapppppa

sage rivet
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Lol

uncut lintel
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i remember buying the moose for 30k in WoD

tranquil steeple
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Ik how it feels to have scarce amounts of gold though

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I was constantly hovering around 15-30k total during Legion

night swift
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I boosted once for the monk mt skin

sage rivet
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I bought one of the pterrodax mounts and cried a little

uncut lintel
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i still need the spectral one

night swift
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Then got a free carry for the sparkle bird from antorus

uncut lintel
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i wanted sparkle bird ; - -;

sage rivet
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Same

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But I didn’t start playing wow until bfa hah

tranquil steeple
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I asked my guild if I could bring my (at the time) gf along for a HC argus kill so they could get the mount

night swift
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I was in the friendship bird discord and the first stream I joined I got picked first lol

sage rivet
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Noice

tranquil steeple
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and since we were decently geared at the time it was fine

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damn accidental 'Enter' presses

uncut vault
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@uncut lintel levels below 70 on the neck are insanely easy now

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like, my druid is neck 66, to get to 67 only takes 1k AP

uncut lintel
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i got to 64 lol

uncut vault
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Im going to go see how many levels I get from completing one AP emmisary

blissful girder
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Is it common for people to play PTR more than live

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Or like

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Do you think PTR has people that play it more

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Is that a thing

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because I see level 120s on PTR alot

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unless you can get there pretty easy

hasty tendon
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You can copy your 120 to the ptr.

blissful girder
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oh

whole cedar
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nowadays I do play ptr more than live but that is for work purposes. I have seen some names repeatedly over the course of BFA PTR, though. I know there's a russian paladin that is always ganking people in Boralus or, in the 8.3 cycle, in Uldum.

hasty tendon
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There's a pretty dedicated group of Vulpera Roleplayers that have been playing PTR exclusively since the 8.3 ptr opened, I hear.

blissful girder
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geeze

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Think they will come over to live?

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once 8.3 hits?

hasty tendon
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Deffo.

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They're just gonna make the characters on Live as well and continue where they left off.

whole cedar
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they never really shut down PTR realms so in a way, it is a free way to play WoW, as you can access the PTR without a subscription.

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I imagine the few people that do that can get quite bored though, as you can't do a lot of content and it gets (even more) deserted when the game is not in an active PTR cycle.

blissful girder
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Ah I see

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thats cool!

strange falcon
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@hasty tendon 🤔

hasty tendon
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@strange falcon 🤔

mighty wolf
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🤔

cyan prairie
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Does anyone expect a CGI cinematic for 8.3?

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We kept getting one each patch, so it'd make sense for 8.3 to receive one as well

mighty wolf
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Think its gonna be on patch release day

round lake
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CGI I dont think so, would be nice but I doubt it

plain vigil
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CGI N'zoth is inevitable

dense plover
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It’s unlikely

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I expect a few rendered cinematics tho

strange falcon
dull flame
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no

plain dagger
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that such a cute fennec 🙂

obtuse vine
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So there was this Q&A between Ion and Millenium apparently and Ion said there’s no plans for 8.3.5 😧

uncut vault
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Ive been saying that for a while

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Evidence is all in the files

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Stuff like the peace treaty are all epilogue material

obtuse vine
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Yeah true

uncut vault
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A bunch of the dialogue for this patch is labeled 8.3.5, and is coming out in 8.3

obtuse vine
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Probably cancelled it to focus on shadowlands

uncut vault
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They most likely just squished the content into the patch proper for the sake of getting to Shadowlands alpha

obtuse vine
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^^

vernal juniper
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got un update on ptr

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anything new datamined?

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50-100 ish mb

mighty wolf
meager zodiac
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tyrande is going evil 100 % its not even subtle

weak bison
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i think tyrande is going to betray anduin imo

plain vigil
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Lmao missing a few AR leaders i noticed

mighty wolf
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Is there just 3 cutscenes?

languid yoke
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he asks, 8.3 not even being on live

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which means encrypted stuff not being visible yet

smoky mural
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wow the horde one is so bad

narrow ridge
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Tyrande got that bloodlust goin' on.

tepid heart
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Yeah, she's gonna be the new Jaina... "Kill them all!"

obtuse vine
storm marsh
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not really satisfied with DK one

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i see they're saving Bolvar new model for Shadowlands. I kinda hoped he was encrypted.

obtuse vine
#

Yeah same :/

obtuse vine
limber mural
#

another good ol' expansion where the pandaren leaders get to do actual nothing

zealous basalt
#

Sip yall

tulip sun
#

At least they are in the cinematics

bitter horizon
#

is that all the cinematics that were added?

tranquil steeple
#

Prolly just the ones we can view

distant folio
#

@uncut vault I can't find any reference to 8.3.5 in the files myself?

dense plover
#

We won’t see any rendered ones

#

It was labeled

#

But they relabeled

uncut vault
#

this was what they initially looked like

sullen dawn
#

eeeep

#

no 8,35 😦

#

those arent really cinematics anyway, just in-game cutscenes

#

cinematics are never viewable until patch goes live

dense plover
#

also

#

i dont think those are right\

#

VO files arent named in the files

#

someone named them that

#

like, a 3rd party

#

all files by default are just strings of numbers as of 8.0 or 8.1

storm marsh
tropic trail
#

So. We'll get the last AR pair in the prepatch it seems

whole cedar
ivory meadow
#

bruh

uncut vault
#

omg guys I cant believe it

whole cedar
#

we've had that fake linked to us quite a few times lul

uncut vault
#

really though, if youre gonna fake a wowhead article

#

at least capitalize the title correctly 😛

ionic terrace
#

It's treason, then.

dense plover
#

weekly cloak cap ties into my idea that the week after lfr is 8.3.5

#

its the same timeline

uncut vault
#

they confirmed no 8.3.5 today

#

First of all, just to get it out of the way, we currently don’t have any 8.3.5 plans — there may be some small systems tweaks or updates for stability between now and Shadowlands, but Visions of N’Zoth is really the concluding chapter of Battle for Azeroth, and we’re excited to focus our attention on Shadowlands and the upcoming beta for Shadowlands that’ll be opening up over the course of the year.

#

from Ion

uncut lintel
#

wait wut

#

wont that be too long?

ionic terrace
#

betting on 33051 being the build

#

since it was just pushed lol

#

well that's a good sign

#

@dense plover

#

I hope they aren't planning on using this build tomrrow lol

#

nvm

#

fixed 😄

zealous basalt
#

So question

#

Will we have a downtime on servers tomorrow?

night swift
#

most likely for maitenance

#

since it'll also be reset

round lake
#

so do we turn in our isalnds quest and save the map for tomorrow?

west relic
#

Yes

round lake
#

ty

night swift
#

lmao

strange falcon
#

they going to work all hands on deck on shadowlands like they abandoned wod completely after hellfire citadel xD

peak fern
#

I wouldn't say I'm surprised tbf xD

night swift
#

its been a rumor for months, I'm not surprised

tropic trail
#

so I've got a dumb question that I don't see in the guides
The Curse of Stone book and the torn pages and the Fear and Flesh book
do I get those at the END of the horrific vision automatically
or do I need to find them INSIDE of it?

sullen dawn
#

From eu - how many hours till patch goes live in US? I wanna see cinematics :D

meager zodiac
#

no 8.3.5 is such a bad idea

#

shadowlands is not as impressive as legion was to bring peps back

strange falcon
#

i dont think "peps" are really caring about impressive big posterbois nostalgia trips

#

rather just getting an actual good,fun,polished expansion

#

and doing it like this,with no 8.3.5

#

they have almost a full year extra

#

to work on shadowlands

ivory meadow
#

yeah

strange falcon
#

like how they abadoned WoD after HFC

#

to work on legion

ivory meadow
#

i'd rather have them focus on SL than some really small patch.

strange falcon
#

and we know legion was very well received all things considered

#

besides

#

no one is forcing you to play wow every single day until SL

#

there is a lot of very worthy games out there,mostly singleplayer waiting for your attention u.u

#

@meager zodiac

storm marsh
#

@sullen dawn which cinematics? 🤔

meager zodiac
#

first dont ping me to be patronizing

#

second if im spending my hard earned money on other games and i have no reason to play a messed up patch and wait for yet another underwelming expansion, might as well drop wow all together

#

shadowlands looks mediocre

uncut lintel
#

welp, cya

meager zodiac
#

i am, but its still an stupid decision of their part

ivory meadow
#

what?

meager zodiac
#

but not suprising considering how this game has been going

ivory meadow
#

8.3.5 isn't happening? oh fucking well.

#

it's usually a very miniscule patch anyway.

meager zodiac
#

but its at least a lil something

#

7.3.5 lil something was fun

#

it made waiting for the massive trash fire bfa was a bit more interesting, its just the devs admiting bfa was a failure witout being upfront about it

ivory meadow
#

remember when SL was revealed, shortly after Blizz had reported that SL was early in development

#

so honestly i'm not surprised that they wouldn't do 8.3.5

#

that's committing meaningless resource towards that could be towards working getting alpha/beta out and getting feedback as early as possible

meager zodiac
#

pffff

#

what feeback

ivory meadow
#

HEY.

meager zodiac
#

they didnt listen to anything said about every failure for bfa

#

0

ivory meadow
#

you'd might as well not play SL then

meager zodiac
#

they didnt even have azerite armor for most of the testing

ivory meadow
#

if you're gonna have that attitude.

uncut lintel
#

SL might actually be good tbh

meager zodiac
#

but to say they gett feeback from beta is an abject lie

#

they didnt listen to islands or warfronts

#

they didnt have azerite armor there for most of the time

ivory meadow
#

just hope the same mistakes don't repeat.

meager zodiac
#

most of the feeback was taken into 8.1 an 8.2

#

months after it was said

#

literallly everyone in the beta : azerite armor sucks
blizzard in 8.2 : actualy it is bad, our bad u u

ivory meadow
#

"my hard earned money" proceeds to spend said money on a game they have obviously no hope for

meager zodiac
#

i havent besides a bit to try out new stuff

storm marsh
#

I kinda hoped a patch like 8.3.5 would add a vendor that sells all bfa pvp sets (non elite sets ofc) for honor marks like legion had for a whole expansion

meager zodiac
#

and it all sucks

ivory meadow
#

you literally said SL will be underwhelming/mediocre

meager zodiac
#

this expansion was an enourmous mess that everyone predicted

strange falcon
#

i stand by opinion that WoD was much worse u.u

meager zodiac
#

also they "no essences" politic was terrible

#

wod was worse because of no content

#

everything besides raids is bad in bfa

storm marsh
#

I agree that the expansion was not too great, but I was still subsribed all the time. There is always something to do. The only time I haven't been busy was a transition between 8.1.5 and 8.2

uncut lintel
#

-pets vulpera- shhh it's ok

meager zodiac
#

vulpera are neat

uncut lintel
#

😮

meager zodiac
#

but their conterpart makes me think someone in blizzard does crack

#

or where on crack

strange falcon
#

even then,you can always just wait a month and see what people think of SL,it's not like anyone is forcing you to preorder it and play it at launch day o.o

ivory meadow
#

^

#

there's no problem in just waiting and seeing.

meager zodiac
#

i just said the level of hype to make people forget about bfa

#

is not there

#

it simply isnt

ivory meadow
#

what?

#

what?

hasty tendon
#

Well, that's just like
Your opinion

uncut lintel
#

i kinda liked bfa...a little lol

strange falcon
#

as i said,big posterboy nostalgia trips are incredibly superfluous and unnecessary if the content and gameplay IS good

#

if the expac is good,people will say it's good,and there is no need for a big hype machine pull for no reason

meager zodiac
#

legion looked neat from the first sight, shadowlands was an whimper at best

storm marsh
#

There is no hype for SL that could make people forget about bfa?

ivory meadow
#

who told you to forget BFA?

strange falcon
#

the lore community sure is hyped o.o

storm marsh
#

Yea

meager zodiac
#

lore community?

#

what lore???

strange falcon
#

i am not a lore guy so i cannot comment on your words o.o

storm marsh
#

We're excited to see some characters

meager zodiac
#

the one that is already retconing stuff about icecrown and the lich king?

uncut lintel
#

I just want to see what happens to my beautiful girl sylvanas

#

#dontdieplz

meager zodiac
#

i do too

strange falcon
#

on that point, * soft retcon,which is quite different in relevance

meager zodiac
#

its still a unecessary change

strange falcon
#

thats debatable

#

"adding information to a previously vague item or character"

meager zodiac
#

"it was crafted by the nathrezim and kiljeaden to made by somethingt else

#

its a retcon

#

sush

#

it went from a specific artifact of the legions creation to something taken from something in the maw

strange falcon
#

i do not have the necessary proficiency to debate lore changes o.o

meager zodiac
#

then why did you contest about something you werent informed then?

storm marsh
#

With no 8.3.5. Our hope for the last pair of ARs also falls in the water 😩

meager zodiac
#

that's another thing 🙄

tulip sun
#

Leave. This doesn't have a BASH BLIZZARD channel name.

#

I know many and am personally excited for shadowlands.

#

There will likely be more ARs. Just not in BfA

dense plover
#

It will probably be a while tbh

#

They’re focusing on core race customization for shadowlands

#

Which is good

#

Dwarves are getting wildhammer options, trolls are getting some good stuff

#

Hopefully Tauren get taunka options

ivory meadow
#

honestly, i'm fine with the retcon; if it gives them the opportunity to create more lore about Frostmourne than they could with the current lore, i'm fine with that.

dense plover
#

^

#

It’s a soft retcon

#

It doesn’t stop what happened in WC3

#

We never knew about the blade or armors creation

#

We just knew the legion used it to trap an orc and then led arthas to it

#

And then arthas wasn’t their pawn and it didn’t work out

#

It being tied to the SLs and crafted there doesn’t change any of that

sullen dawn
#

@storm marsh whatever cinematics are kn the patch, who knows

#

Although they might he next week for raid

dense plover
#

Raid cinematic wont be dataminable

#

They key gets given when you beat the raid

strange falcon
#

:o

dense plover
#

So we will have to wait a week

storm marsh
#

I guess there might at least one nice cinematic during introduction quest

#

And I still hope we get a CGI of Nzoth haha

dense plover
#

Doubtful

#

We would know

#

CGI cinematics have huge file sizes

storm marsh
#

I know. Imagine how epic it would be

dense plover
#

We don’t have that

#

Probably just a rendered cinematic

sullen dawn
#

Yeh I know nothing will be datamineable

#

Just wondering if well get a non-raid cinematic today

zealous basalt
#

Sup yall

limber mural
#

it's me

zealous basalt
#

I read somewhere that vulpera greet other with a cheek lick

#

Is day tru

uncut lintel
#

its true for me ;))

zealous basalt
#

...slowly gets space marine armor

bleak bolt
#

*gets one too... cause space marine armor 💚 *

pulsar iris
#

@zealous basalt so bucciarati might actually have been a vulpera

zealous basalt
#

oh no

strange falcon
#

oh no

storm marsh
#

How many hours til the American Live PTR begins?

zealous basalt
#

Wha

storm marsh
#

US players always test it out for us EU players first 😛

hasty tendon
#

But if it's live

dense plover
#

7 hours max

hasty tendon
#

it can't be ptr

dense plover
#

its not

#

they were making a joke

strange falcon
#

and what time does the patch come out for EU?

hasty tendon
#

I see.

#

Irony is lost on me in text-form.

storm marsh
#

😛

#

tomorrow morning @strange falcon in 13-15 hours

strange falcon
#

so 9am

#

i remember reset is usually at that time most of the time

zealous basalt
#

we should spoil the shit for the EU playars 😛

whole cedar
#

you wanna know what i'm most excited for

#

the rage once people meet the great worms

#

that's gonna be juicy

uncut lintel
#

i think i like the worms

zealous basalt
#

What great worms

uncut lintel
#

they are kinda cute

#

ill go hug one

whole cedar
#

the ones in invasion zones that slow your flight speed

zealous basalt
#

i think i mis--

#

Ohh ye

#

I can call it

#

"Blizz tf are those worms and why is my mount speed so low"

#

"is this why i grinded for flight?"

whole cedar
#

also realm list is back up for US

#

thats... early

zealous basalt
#

ya

whole cedar
#

servers still offline though

zealous basalt
#

its probably be up anytime now

uncut lintel
#

i bet 15 mins

zealous basalt
#

what about eu

#

😛

whole cedar
#

all hail the herald of gravity

zealous basalt
#

wait for it...

#

wait for it.......

storm marsh
#

I'm gonna say it. Pandaren Female Blood Death Knight.

zealous basalt
#

Oh you mean

#

That one panda lady from Horde WoD garrison

strange falcon
#

i mean,the worms are only bad if you're being careless moron afking in the skies xd

zealous basalt
#

Half the game population

dense plover
#

its not as bad as it was

#

they reduced the range

#

used to be MUCH larger

#

i still dont like it tho

zealous basalt
#

i think

#

that's the point peach

#

for you to not like it

#

nothing up yet

obtuse vine
#

What time does 8.3 go live again?

novel zodiac
#

8pm pst

#

could be sooner

#

3pm*

plain vigil
#

So that's 4 hours from now

storm marsh
#

so what happened with that dark ranger velonara quest in scarlet halls? Scrapped? I guess there were no news since it was datamined in 8.1.5

uncut vault
#

I’ve accepted that it was scrapped a while back

#

She got some cheap dialogue in 8.3 and that’s all I ever expect

novel zodiac
#

update?

obtuse vine
#

Blizz cancelled 8.3

novel zodiac
#

nice

#

more content for shadowlands

zealous basalt
#

@mystic heart

#

Servers up

mighty wolf
#

Is there no patch cinematic? sad

dense plover
#

you mean trailer?

#

no

#

they kinda did that with the patch announcement

#

there will probably be at least 1 raid cinematic

#

but thats next week

upper remnant
dense plover
#

cant see encrypted cutscenes if you dont have a key

upper remnant
#

Wasn't there a cutscene still not datamined with Anduin though?

dense plover
#

no?

#

literally yesterday

mighty wolf
#

There was Nazjatar cinematic, but no Nzoth's? sad sad sad

dense plover
#

not rendered

upper remnant
#

There was one with Wrathion

dense plover
#

encrypted

#

might get found soon

#

might be rendered, might not

zealous basalt
#

ah come on

#

is there a cinematic when you step on the keep?

upper remnant
#

Yeah this should be find today I don't remember if the quest is related to a time gate or not

dense plover
#

if its the wrathion intro cinematic?

uncut vault
#

there is

dense plover
#

that should be today

uncut vault
#

servers are up, its out

upper remnant
mighty wolf
#

Oh, i see it

zealous basalt
#

Wrathion's voice

mighty wolf
#

Is there just Anduin version?

zealous basalt
#

I think all the budget went to the punch

uncut vault
#

a what version?

zealous basalt
#

felt so confortable tbh

obtuse vine
#

Wait if this is the 2 min cinematic that means there’s a longer one during the raid, and the 50 sec cinematic is gonna appear during questing ?

sullen dawn
#

Are servers still not up?

#

Oh lol

#

The timing

#

I think both other cinematics are rais

#

*raid

uncut vault
#

top tier thumbnail

limber mural
#

Oh god that's horrifying

dense plover
#

well, what do you know

#

it IS rendered

zealous basalt
#

Imagine that punch in CGI

vast mirage
#

why did anduin say his father is dead because of wrathion?

zealous basalt
#

Because Wrathion released garrosh

#

Garrosh>WoD>Gul'Dan>Legion's failed assault>Varian ded

tropic trail
#

he was basically the reason for the burning legion invading our azeroth

zealous basalt
#

though i never expected Anduin being that

#

you know

vast mirage
#

ah

zealous basalt
dense plover
#

omg that cinematic

#

the worms are there 24/7

#

more worms during nzoth

#

but theyre always there

tranquil steeple
#

I'm assuming the punch you're talking about is an in-game cinematic

zealous basalt
#

imagine if that punch was cgi

tranquil steeple
#

or are you just memeing mak

zealous basalt
#

le sigh

sullen dawn
#

Man wrathion is so lame in that cinematic

zealous basalt
#

I felt that it would be like how he should act

sullen dawn
#

He comes across as some sort of struggling theatre actor

#

And his beard is so lame

uncut vault
#

I wish he had a bit of a "I know, Im sorry" line after the punch, but other than that he was great

zealous basalt
#

dont diss the beard

sullen dawn
#

Hes just like "hey look how sassy I am"

zealous basalt
#

He is a black dragon

sullen dawn
#

Sassy wrathion

zealous basalt
#

what did you expect

#

For all he knows he is still saving Azeroth

sullen dawn
#

Hey I like his story and place in lore

#

Hes just waaaaaay too camp

#

Feels like comedy relief

zealous basalt
#

Eh, to each his own

#

I actually liked it

#

He isn't supposed to be really serious considering he isn't that old

sullen dawn
#

Dragons mature faster surely

#

Otherwise I wouldn't be taking military advice from a 6 year old

#

Anduin is young and serious

zealous basalt
#

Considering he knows

#

More than Anduin does

#

I don't think age really matters but surely it shows that he is younger

#

and a sassy bastard

sullen dawn
#

That's what I'm saying though, if hes smart enough to understand nzoth mind games hes smart enough not to be a prancing eejit

zealous basalt
#

I don't think anyone saw that Anduin was going to punch him

sullen dawn
#

I liked that punch

#

Pretty solid connection

zealous basalt
#

if all i am very surprised that Anduin was

#

pissed

#

Like first time I legit see him that pissed enough

sullen dawn
#

It's weird to blame wrathion for varians death though

#

So indirect

zealous basalt
#

what the

#

ouch

#

I actually felt it blizz

#

I triggered Magni being pissed over the relay thing

#

wait

#

where is my fish

#

HEY

#

WAS THAT NORMAL?

#

i need help here

#

well more like an explanation

#

How is nzoth supposed to end his dialogue at the forge?

#

"Unlike you my devoted followers" or something like that

novel zodiac
#

that's how it ends

#

unless i fucked up too

zealous basalt
#

did you have the eye

novel zodiac
#

yes

dense plover
#

i think he says it for everyone

#

he said it on ptr

#

eyes look better tho

#

they looked dumb b4

zealous basalt
#

damn

dense plover
#

oh my god

#

all the objectivers are still individual based

#

the fuck

#

i reported this multiple times

zealous basalt
#

its not a bug

#

its a feature

crisp willow
#

Few people say this but apparently it’s still tracked

#

So you’ve not lost it forever

round lake
#

anyone use Arkinventory

storm marsh
#

so is there anything else juicy besides the cinematic and trailer?

zealous basalt
#

lag

storm marsh
#

hahaha

#

I think the page is in the process of updating. They just added N'zoth. I'm lurking because I want that wallpaper for my desktop that they posted on Instagram.

#

I still can't believe I'm entering a Void focused patch with this hideous Shadowform on my spriest..

uncut vault
#

dont worry ,corruption will probably improve it

dense plover
#

^

storm marsh
#

in which way haha? Even darker lava lamp? 😛

limber mural
vocal badge
#

level up your cloak high enough and your spec changes permanently to disc

safe light
#

Do you get any titan res from scrapping stuff bought today?

uncut vault
#

no

#

not until next tuesday

zealous basalt
#

aw

#

the failed experiment helps you all the way to the heart

#

5 stars

sullen dawn
#

Right so next patch is 9.0 :D

#

Give beta

west relic
#

no

zealous basalt
#

i cry

#

damn it wrathion

#

So

#

Stupid question but still curious

#

I'm at the part of going to Ny'alotha, does it mean that I have to wait for the raid next week or is it like a solo scenario?

#

ah nvm its the raid itself

plain vigil
#

So anyone gonna talk about how the light is tryna not stop N'zoth?

zealous basalt
#

fuck

plain vigil
#

😅

zealous basalt
#

i got myself fucked in the vision

#

again

#

how do you get the source for the visions

plain vigil
#

Wym

zealous basalt
#

Like the

#

thingies for the vial

#

AH GOD FUCKING DAMN IT

#

if only they could let you revive in the vision with shorter sanity

plain vigil
#

Use the orbs

zealous basalt
#

The orbs arent the problem

#

the endless aggro is

#

Wonder how many times I can repeat the vision today

dense plover
#

you should only be doing the first boss

#

you should be pulling small trash packs along the way

#

then doing the boss

#

making sure to dodge the attacks

#

vision bottles come from wrathion

#

each costs 10k coalescing visions

zealous basalt
#

They became static to 10k right?=

#

i remember the cost increasing everytime you made a vial

#

...

#

Did Gelvin became Iron Man

storm marsh
#

I was thinking, we might get a first look at SL alpha soon since there is no 8.3.5

zealous basalt
#

maaybe

plain vigil
#

so uhhh Mogu allied race is possible now

zealous basalt
#

dont think so since they appear to be heavily neutral and still dont like outsiders

plain vigil
#

neutrality never had a major impact on AR

zealous basalt
#

In this case it is

#

and 2

#

BfA is over for now

plain vigil
#

yeah although prepatch ar is still a possibility, even if it's unlikely

zealous basalt
#

So

#

Instead of being a fallen knight under the service of the plague

#

now they are the most honorable for the sacrifice of their kind?

dense plover
#

mogu have had females for a while

#

its not new

zealous basalt
#

...the heck is the runeforge

plain vigil
#

i think he meant politically neutral peach

uncut vault
#

Im still mad they just never gave gelbin his eyebrows back

zealous basalt
#

gods

#

doing the whole content took me some hours

#

more than prior content xD

dense plover
#

dont know why this changed but it looks cool seeing it without all the sand or glow

tulip sun
#

Interesting additions to stormwind

#

I mean orgrimmar rip

forest sphinx
#

And my corruption is up to 32... Crap

zealous basalt
#

Jealous

uncut vault
#

put one of the new essences in a minor slot

#

it reduces corruption by 10

zealous basalt
#

And cloak by 5 at rank 1

plain vigil
#

Gilblin customization in shadowlands is looking awfully plausible

sullen dawn
#

Is patch live in EU yet?

sharp gulch
#

yes

sullen dawn
#

Oooh awesome. Coffee and mechagnome time :D

limber mural
#

can someone link me the first quest of 8.3 for allianc

#

i forgot the name

plain vigil
#

Gilblins ☺️

#

Anyone know how the peace treaty questline starts?

zealous basalt
#

No idea

storm marsh
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They didn't notice that all robes are bugged. At least is on my Void Elf. There is a weird shade at the lower part

zinc sandal
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That’s N’Zoth

limber mural
zealous basalt
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At 1?

limber mural
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1 stack of debuff

zealous basalt
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Damn

ionic terrace
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huh

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they added a cutscene to the Crisis at Splintertree quest

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which is a ashenvale quest added in cata

tropic trail
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@storm marsh how do you know there is no 8.3.5?

uncut vault
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Ion said so

night swift
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Ion confirmed it

storm marsh
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tropic trail
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oh

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i guess i have to wait longer for my Draenei heritage armor sad

strange falcon
forest sphinx
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Holy shit. No 8.3.5?

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And Shadowlands beta throughout the year?

strange falcon
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many people are taking no 8.3.5 as a good sign

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that shadowlands wont be shit

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since they have an extra year to work on it

forest sphinx
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I mean, I can see that

sullen dawn
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With no 8.3.5 I think the expansion will land in mid september - mid october

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Testing starting in feb gives 7-8 months

ember tundra
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Apparently the last wowhead article about the interview speaks about late august

round lake
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it speaks about late august because thats when Legion and BFA dropped

strange falcon
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but both legion AND bfa

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had "on or before 21september or 31st august"

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in their CE legal stuff

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SL has "on or before december 31st 2020"

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so i am expecting a november release at the earlierst

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no one wants a rushed expac

lament fjord
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well, WC3 shows they can break the date when they feel like it.

no one wants a rushed expac
is very true though

round lake
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still going with a Sept/Oct release. Theyll want it out before blizzcon

strange falcon
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i dont think so

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i think novemeber release at the earliest

plain vigil
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Keep in mind y'all, just because there's no 8.3.5 does not mean there won't be more Heratage sets and/οr a last allied race in prepatch. Doesn't mean there will be Either, but still.

stiff vector
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or an 8.3.2

round lake
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ill bet ya a million gold it wont be out november

strange falcon
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i'm screenshotting this

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and holding you up to this bet

round lake
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sounds good

dense plover
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I bet it will be before that

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11 months is too long

zealous basalt
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It's not like they will just start working on it

plain vigil
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Late Oct early November is the perfect time to launch, cause it gives them time to throw info about 9.1 and/or give a bigger overview of 9.0 patch content

dense plover
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They can do that without launching after Blizzcon tho

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There’s gamescom

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People forget how legion worked

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Also it’s a super shitty time because when do you drop the raid?

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Mythic race can’t end up over thanksgiving

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So it has to be over before that

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I bet mid to late August

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Maybe early October

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With prepatch 4-6 weeks before

strange falcon
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i am standing by my november release

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u.u

round lake
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Im glad you are lol

dense plover
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When will the raid happen then?

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January?

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Cuz it can’t happen in December and thanksgiving breaks that too

crisp willow
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There is no way we’ll see it in August

dense plover
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Why not? It’s likely already in NDA alpha

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They were further along with the demo than the Nazmir bfa demo

strange falcon
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no one wants a rushed dumpster fire,peach

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and if SL is bad

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after BFA

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it's a catastrophe

dense plover
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They’ve probably been working on this since before 8.2

crisp willow
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The demo was BFA reskinned and with the scarce info on systems and what not it makes me think it’s way off

zealous basalt
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BfA reskinned

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What

dense plover
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Uh - there was an entire zone

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With finished assets

zealous basalt
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Isn't every expac just a reskin of anything else

dense plover
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Nazmir didn’t have that

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It had untextured assets

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Areas that sent you back

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This zone was far more finished

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And again, if they release that late, when is the raid?

strange falcon
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and EVEN in the case it was far more finished,there is a big difference between "the content is finished" and the content is polished and working,well designed

languid yoke
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legion vs. bfa

dense plover
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Like - you want to argue for a nov release, explain when the raid will happen

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Because that determines patch release

strange falcon
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@languid yoke look who it is u.u

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enjoying foxy bois?

zealous basalt
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You didn't answer the question

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I'm giving it late aug

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Or early September

dense plover
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^

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Gotta have a good 1.5 months free for raid

zealous basalt
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It's always the time for release date

languid yoke
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vulphypeM yes yes

zealous basalt
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Just logic I guess

zealous basalt
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So Aug looks very promising

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Wonder if the people that helped in Ptr would have a chance for Beta again

dense plover
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Probably depends on successful bug reports

zealous basalt
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Ah

languid yoke
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does it count if I did a lot the first two days then died firret

terse patrol
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When’s the raid release?

dense plover
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Next Tuesday

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Then mythic and S4 the week after

plain vigil
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BFA was a successful expansion. Change my mind. Oh wait. You can't

zealous basalt
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BfA was a rushed expac

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/s

strange falcon
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you cant say BFA was not rushed to fit in the financial quarter

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azerite had barely had a few days of testing before the expac came out

zealous basalt
round lake
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feedback was ignored that was the big problem

night swift
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Didnt bfa also release a week before it was supposed to?

agile token
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BFA beta omegaLUL

plain vigil
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Everything but Azerite was good about this expansion tho

uncut vault
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lol

plain vigil
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I feel like it's like Dreanor where the circumstances ruined the story. Like playing BFA to level a character in Shadowlands will be fun. Good story, cool characters. Same for the awesome questing in Dreanor. If Dreanor didn't have those god awful patch luls it would have been seen as a mastercraft

limber mural
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i think you're quite right tbh

uncut vault
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the leveling alone is decent yes, mainly through virtue of being entirely disconnected from the xpacs main story lol

novel zodiac
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so, can i unlock Mechagnomes if i have exalted and the dungeon cleared with a horde toon?

limber mural
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Probably?

night swift
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You should

sullen dawn
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Yeh wod arguably has the highest quality levelling zones in the game

zealous basalt
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is there a guide for farming coalescing visions¡

plain vigil
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@novel zodiac you have to complete the questline. As long as it's completed horde or alliance you should be good

signal bone
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I don't understand the assaults. Is it only one major per week (as in, clear the bar then fight the commander), then 2 minis (same thing)?

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or is the clear the bar thing every day

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the article on wowhead is very confusing

plain vigil
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There's one minor assault up at a time. Clear those 10 times to get currency to run the horiffic assault or once every 3ish days to get the item that let's you attempt the horrific assault

plain vigil
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The assault resets daily

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You have to complete the quest to get the currency