#beta-ptr-spoilers | Wowhead: World of Warcraft (WoW) | Page 564

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 9:20 PM

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Because bugs slip through and some stuff might not have changed

ionic terrace Dec 4, 2019, 9:56 PM

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Why are they restarting PTR 🤔

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Huh, is there new Org music

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Cause i'm pretty sure this one playing is new

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 10:29 PM

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Yes

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Some vulpera themes

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And they mixed in the Maghar ones finally

plain vigil Dec 4, 2019, 10:37 PM

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Notice

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Noice

unreal ridge Dec 5, 2019, 7:04 AM

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can i double stack my paragon caches or just single stack to gain good initial ap into 8.3

tribal sand Dec 5, 2019, 8:58 AM

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u can have 19999 rep
once 8.3 hits life u can turn in one chest, do a wq and get a second one

novel zodiac Dec 5, 2019, 9:15 AM

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you can't stack them in your inventory?

tranquil steeple Dec 5, 2019, 9:17 AM

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AP from paragon is now given upon turn-in of the quest, aswell

novel zodiac Dec 5, 2019, 9:26 AM

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oh yeah

tribal sand Dec 5, 2019, 2:42 PM

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did they change something on the invasions cycle?
tuesday vale n'zoth
wednesday uldum n'zoth
thursday vale n'zoth
they changed daily with this build which gives u 1,4k coalescing visions per day

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i gues this is a massive bug

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not even waiting the daily reset
changed mid day

dense plover Dec 5, 2019, 2:48 PM

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Yeah definitely a bug

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Or they might be purposefully testing the Nzoth invasion

tribal sand Dec 5, 2019, 3:03 PM

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maybe; rare respawns are in like 2 minutes and there is even the new worldboss

ionic terrace Dec 5, 2019, 8:24 PM

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There was a vendor build last night btw

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A newer one actually

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8.3.0.32712 to 32743

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So theoretically there could be another build this week, but I doubt

ionic terrace Dec 5, 2019, 10:14 PM

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I guess I was right, PTR offline

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@dense plover

dense plover Dec 5, 2019, 10:14 PM

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huh

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cool

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ill probably be back later tonight if it goes up tonight and not tomorrow

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hopefully they nerf those fucking worms

ionic terrace Dec 5, 2019, 10:14 PM

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LOL

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Yea me too

dense plover Dec 5, 2019, 10:20 PM

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i have a test in a bit over an hour

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so im probably gonna miss it

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but itll be here when I get back

ionic terrace Dec 6, 2019, 1:37 AM

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Huh I guess no new build

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Servers are back

dense plover Dec 6, 2019, 4:53 AM

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maybe they couldnt deploy it?

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maybe it was serverside?

dense plover Dec 6, 2019, 6:57 AM

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seems like they did maybe do server stuff

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worms have a shorter range

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oh damn

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corrupted mob just have 10 corrupted momentos

lyric heart Dec 6, 2019, 9:45 AM

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oh you guys also met the great worm eh :p

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ignores line of sight, even when it feels you are like 200 yds away XD and boom 7 stacks in under 15 seconds

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crossing fingers for finetuning 😄

dense plover Dec 6, 2019, 1:34 PM

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Yeah it’s still fucking bullshit

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If they go live as is this will be a shit show

strange falcon Dec 6, 2019, 2:12 PM

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There have been mapwide stuff/npcs before,though it heavily depends on the context

harsh wedge Dec 6, 2019, 6:53 PM

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Can't copy characters on the ptr ?

dense plover Dec 6, 2019, 7:06 PM

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you should be able to

harsh wedge Dec 6, 2019, 7:12 PM

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Says "Copy failure" when I try to copy it

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tribal sand Dec 6, 2019, 8:28 PM

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true i m not able either

ionic terrace Dec 6, 2019, 8:35 PM

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Works for me

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🤔

harsh wedge Dec 6, 2019, 8:36 PM

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@ionic terrace You can copy chars ?

ionic terrace Dec 6, 2019, 8:36 PM

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Yes I just did

harsh wedge Dec 6, 2019, 8:36 PM

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Still got the error

ionic terrace Dec 6, 2019, 8:36 PM

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Idk 😦

ionic terrace Dec 6, 2019, 8:53 PM

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Nice, Magni actually does things other then meleeing now

tribal sand Dec 6, 2019, 9:19 PM

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@harsh wedge u tried to copy a priest or a char standing in mechagon?

harsh wedge Dec 6, 2019, 9:19 PM

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no, in dazar'alor

tribal sand Dec 6, 2019, 9:21 PM

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ok nevermind, no char works for me right now

tropic trail Dec 6, 2019, 10:43 PM

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I'm also completely unable to copy characters.. :/

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really don't feel like leveling up a character in the PTR lol

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Specifically, EU characters can't be copied

tribal sand Dec 7, 2019, 10:26 PM

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char copy is possible again

frigid meteor Dec 8, 2019, 3:42 AM

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what damage is more prominent in the new raid? im trying to make a tank alt and idk what to make

dense plover Dec 8, 2019, 3:43 AM

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type of damage doesnt matter for tank

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not really

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brew and dk i think are still top

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maybe pally and warrior?

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bear is still middle of the pack I think

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also you dont need to post in two channels @frigid meteor

frigid meteor Dec 8, 2019, 3:50 AM

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yeah since it was ptr stuff i didnt know

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but i cant seem to find a solid answer everyone say dk but is because of the axe

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and i know they scale with gear but thats towards the end of xpac

dense plover Dec 8, 2019, 4:01 AM

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the axe?

frigid meteor Dec 8, 2019, 4:02 AM

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yeah the op axe that it drops from raid

dense plover Dec 8, 2019, 4:02 AM

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yeah no

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DK has been a great tank the entire expac

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same with brew

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they have ridiculous self sustain

night swift Dec 8, 2019, 4:08 AM

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^

dense plover Dec 8, 2019, 4:10 AM

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as soon as they add stuff that requires more dps, brew will go back to middle of the pack

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but right now raids are about staying in the fight while dps dps

uncut vault Dec 8, 2019, 6:27 AM

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I was gonna link him a great preach video about what different tanks are good for nyalotha, but he left the discord lol

night swift Dec 8, 2019, 7:09 AM

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course they did

strange falcon Dec 8, 2019, 8:41 AM

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For example bears were top tier throughout all of legion

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Because of their aoe speedboost and incredible ability to take big hits repeatedly

night swift Dec 8, 2019, 8:42 AM

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druids were gods in legion

strange falcon Dec 8, 2019, 8:48 AM

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Resto was pretty good then and its still good now

tropic trail Dec 8, 2019, 8:49 AM

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Glad monks are top tier now. Brewmasters at least

strange falcon Dec 8, 2019, 8:49 AM

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Druids remained top tier even after blizz removed magic mitigation altogether(mark of ursol) because they kept making super hardhitting bosses

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Like the first weeks of KJ even on normal

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He was shredding blood DKs with a single combo

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Like paper

tropic trail Dec 8, 2019, 8:50 AM

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I mean, I can't play brewmaster to save a life

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But still!

strange falcon Dec 8, 2019, 8:50 AM

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I had to learn all classes to get the magetowers done

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Brewmaster was definitely a fun tank

tropic trail Dec 8, 2019, 8:51 AM

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It's fun, but I struggle with the brews. I just spam them instead of using them properly

night swift Dec 8, 2019, 8:51 AM

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its really not that hard

tropic trail Dec 8, 2019, 8:51 AM

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They just feel like a press to relieve stress button to me

night swift Dec 8, 2019, 8:51 AM

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you just keep ironskin topped off

strange falcon Dec 8, 2019, 8:51 AM

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You get a sense for it

tropic trail Dec 8, 2019, 8:52 AM

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So I spam them xD

night swift Dec 8, 2019, 8:52 AM

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don't spam, just basically keep it up at a steady pace

tropic trail Dec 8, 2019, 8:52 AM

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Good advice, but...

strange falcon Dec 8, 2019, 8:53 AM

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In their effort to nuke bears out of the meta after 2years of undisputed dominance.
Not only did they nerf their sustain to a fixed amount,instead of a % of dmg taken

One frenzied regen after kj combo got you back to full hp with no healer help especially with the legendary

tropic trail Dec 8, 2019, 8:53 AM

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I think I'll stick to Windwalker till Mistweavers get the WoD version of Mana Tea back

strange falcon Dec 8, 2019, 8:53 AM

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And then they changed 90% of bosses to do dmg over time instead of a big hit

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And who excels at DMG over time,monks,its in their passive too

tribal sand Dec 8, 2019, 12:03 PM

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brewmaster don t excels at damage over time; they could take big hits like no one else can

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orgozoa mythic is the best example

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dots are the monks weakpoint especially magic dots

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with the amount of magic dmg coming in ny'alotha, i guess dk and dh becoming much stronger next tier, while monk will still be a decent tank if u get a good healer on your side

dull flame Dec 8, 2019, 12:08 PM

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tbh i have had like twice a DH tank in EP

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i dont see them much at all

tribal sand Dec 8, 2019, 12:08 PM

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yeah it's because people think they are really bad, even if they are not

strange falcon Dec 8, 2019, 1:07 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/326727004445605898/653209160619393034/1uc304.jpg

tropic trail Dec 8, 2019, 1:15 PM

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I had to zoom on the last bit

languid yoke Dec 8, 2019, 1:18 PM

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KJ was a good boss

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(tm)

sudden oak Dec 8, 2019, 2:05 PM

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as a discipline priest KJ can fuck off with his intermissions

limber mural Dec 8, 2019, 2:27 PM

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as a player in general, KJ can fuck off

soft tangle Dec 8, 2019, 4:22 PM

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^

strange falcon Dec 8, 2019, 4:38 PM

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KJ can fuck off so much,he's not zerg/puggable on mythic even a full 2 years later because of his double invincibility phases

tribal sand Dec 8, 2019, 5:22 PM

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is it possible that the crafted gear could corrupt right now?

dense plover Dec 8, 2019, 5:23 PM

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I honestly don’t know

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But it’s unlikely

tribal sand Dec 8, 2019, 5:31 PM

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where is the point in crafting professions then
heroic corrupted gear would be much stronger than crafted gear

dense plover Dec 8, 2019, 5:33 PM

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I mean - different stat setups

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And corruption isn’t necessarily good

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Getting enough resistance is hard

tribal sand Dec 8, 2019, 5:34 PM

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comes by the time

dense plover Dec 8, 2019, 5:34 PM

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Also generally, stuff you can sell doesn’t have corruption

tribal sand Dec 8, 2019, 5:35 PM

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what do you mean with stuff u can sell

austere gazelle Dec 8, 2019, 5:35 PM

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KF was a good boss, but lorewise his fight was trash

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Kil'jaden the deceiver... He deceived our expectations that's for sure

bronze gust Dec 8, 2019, 8:38 PM

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what's KF?

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anyway im a druid tank in bfa and its still pretty good I dunno whats the complaint tbh

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its just not has good in m+ as some other classes but still above average

night swift Dec 8, 2019, 8:47 PM

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Its viable yes

cyan prairie Dec 8, 2019, 8:48 PM

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just not as good as warrior or monk

night swift Dec 8, 2019, 8:48 PM

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Not atm no

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Stuff hits too hard for it

sage rivet Dec 8, 2019, 8:49 PM

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From a healing standpoint, they’re a bit more squishy

dense plover Dec 8, 2019, 8:57 PM

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but theyre still good, yeah

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theyre just less good

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theres no unusable tanks

cyan prairie Dec 8, 2019, 8:59 PM

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heh... Demon Hunter? xD

dense plover Dec 8, 2019, 9:00 PM

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ehhh

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its probably the lowest rung

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but its not bad

sage rivet Dec 8, 2019, 9:03 PM

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I’ve seen some good dh tanks. And then others that just spam random abilities and stand in shit lol. I feel like success is largely in the hands of whoever’s playing the character

strange falcon Dec 8, 2019, 9:18 PM

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Bear tanks feel a lot more squishy for
The sizeable nerfs to ironfur
And putting frenzied regen at a fixed value rather than a % of dmg taken

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Also completely removing magical mitigation during NH

bronze gust Dec 8, 2019, 9:41 PM

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depends

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when you have almost a milion hp being squishy doesnt matter much

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also good trinkets are handy

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https://raider.io/characters/eu/kazzak/Menog not even bullshiting anyone

Raider.IO

Menog ‹Unavailable› @ Kazzak (EU)

Guardian Druid, Item Level 443, Heart Level 70, Season 3 Mythic+ Score 1664, The Eternal Palace Progress 8/8 Heroic.

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I could go higher but there is no point so I just do the bare minimal since I reachest full 15+

strange falcon Dec 8, 2019, 9:43 PM

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I remember bear druids being close to 18M hp at the end of legion (with optimal gear)

bronze gust Dec 8, 2019, 9:43 PM

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yeh before the stat squish and brokent artifact

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thats when they ruined the class yeth again... it took awhile on bfa but since BoD druid tank started being fun again

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I enjoy it. just wish I could do a bit more damage tough

storm marsh Dec 9, 2019, 2:14 AM

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I have a feeling that new AR DK skins are encrypted alongside Bolvar new HD model waiting to be released on 8.3 release day

warm shore Dec 9, 2019, 7:05 AM

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did they pinpoint a release date yet or is it still just early 2020?

strange falcon Dec 9, 2019, 7:05 AM

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its most probably the week anniversary ends

ancient jasper Dec 9, 2019, 8:12 AM

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Yep

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Can't have those Vulpera and Mechagnomes having quicker leveling. 😂

vernal juniper Dec 9, 2019, 1:47 PM

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Hello Can I ask if you know which is the requirement to be able to go on the corrupted version of Panaria? I can go on corrupted version of Uldum with both chars but only 1 on Pandaria.

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https://i.imgur.com/BqoTzkY.jpg

Imgur

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I tried on secondo account (where I can't go) to speak with Zidormi but the option to change timeline is not avaiable.

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Must be a requirement.

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Rep or war campaign is my bet.

dense plover Dec 9, 2019, 2:57 PM

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You need to do the story quest

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There is currently no unlock if you have already done the story quest

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I expect this to change

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So you have to do the full story on each character

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Also if uldum is currently corrupted then pandaria will have a different assault

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Either mogu or mantid

vernal juniper Dec 9, 2019, 3:29 PM

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so if I'm understanding right, we need to do the whole nzoth campaing on every alt to be phased?

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this only for pandaria btw

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on uldum I can see myself on second account even if I did 0 quests on him

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while on the 1st I have almost done everything

dense plover Dec 9, 2019, 3:31 PM

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To be phased? No

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To have access to the assaults? Yes

vernal juniper Dec 9, 2019, 3:31 PM

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I mean, sorry for my english

dense plover Dec 9, 2019, 3:31 PM

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And again pandaria isn’t under Nzoth assault right now

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Only one zone can be under Nzoth at a time

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So if uldum is corrupted right now, pandaria is mogu or mantid

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Neither of which are as extreme

vernal juniper Dec 9, 2019, 3:32 PM

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ok so why On account 1 on pandaria I can see ilvl 120 mobs? if is not under assault?

dense plover Dec 9, 2019, 3:32 PM

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It is

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It’s a different assault

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There are 3 assaults per zone

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Nzoth and two there’s

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Others

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Vale also has mogu and mantid

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Go fly around the zone

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I’m sure it’s one of those two

vernal juniper Dec 9, 2019, 3:33 PM

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ok so If I'm right

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uldim nzoth assault, toon phased on uldum and quest only if done questline

dense plover Dec 9, 2019, 3:34 PM

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If the mobs are 120 then you are in an assault phase

vernal juniper Dec 9, 2019, 3:34 PM

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pandaria "mantid or mogu" assault, avaible only if did uldum quests?

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yes on uldum you are with 120 with or without question

dense plover Dec 9, 2019, 3:34 PM

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If vale is 120 it’s under assault

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It won’t look like uldum

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Because it’s not Nzoth

vernal juniper Dec 9, 2019, 3:35 PM

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on pandaira you are with 120 maybe if you did some quests

dense plover Dec 9, 2019, 3:35 PM

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No

vernal juniper Dec 9, 2019, 3:35 PM

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but if you did 0 ultim and you go on pandaria with both account only one is under assault

dense plover Dec 9, 2019, 3:35 PM

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If zidormi is there you can access the phase

vernal juniper Dec 9, 2019, 3:35 PM

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nope

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look the screen

dense plover Dec 9, 2019, 3:35 PM

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Yeah zidormi is there

vernal juniper Dec 9, 2019, 3:35 PM

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the 120 with quest was under assault

dense plover Dec 9, 2019, 3:36 PM

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What level are the mobs?

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In vale

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Currently

vernal juniper Dec 9, 2019, 3:36 PM

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120 with the account 1

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90 with the account 2

dense plover Dec 9, 2019, 3:36 PM

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Then yes account 2 still needs to unlock it

vernal juniper Dec 9, 2019, 3:36 PM

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zidormi on account 2 has no option no change timeline

dense plover Dec 9, 2019, 3:36 PM

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Idk about that

vernal juniper Dec 9, 2019, 3:36 PM

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can be a bug idk

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she says "talk to me"

dense plover Dec 9, 2019, 3:37 PM

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Did you do the quest on account 1 with Chen and lili and the ox?

vernal juniper Dec 9, 2019, 3:37 PM

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but you can't

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no, with account 1 did only a part of uldum nothing on vale

dense plover Dec 9, 2019, 3:37 PM

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You have to do the whole thing to unlock vale

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And if you are saying account 2 hasn’t done quests but has assault access in uldum, it’s very possible that they changed it

vernal juniper Dec 9, 2019, 3:38 PM

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yep that is the "problem"

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lets see what they will change

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last question

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What do you need to do to have the access of the new questine?

dense plover Dec 9, 2019, 3:39 PM

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Probably unlock the essence system

vernal juniper Dec 9, 2019, 3:39 PM

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I raf myself on a new bnet account and the new story will not popup

dense plover Dec 9, 2019, 3:39 PM

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But I don’t have a character who hasn’t

vernal juniper Dec 9, 2019, 3:40 PM

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so you need to to the whole war campain and unlock nazjatar on the account 2

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since essence will unlock with nazjatar

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and nazjatar will unlock only after the war campain

dense plover Dec 9, 2019, 3:41 PM

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No

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Naz unlocks at 120

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And friendly with all factions

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That’s it

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Never required war campaign

vernal juniper Dec 9, 2019, 3:41 PM

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oh need to be friendly

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I will work on that than and I try.

ancient jasper Dec 9, 2019, 10:17 PM

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Huh just noticed that they nerfed the hell out of Mechagnome Racials

night swift Dec 9, 2019, 10:20 PM

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How so

ancient jasper Dec 9, 2019, 10:20 PM

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The stacking main stat Racial was nerfed to 15 per stack for a total of 120 main stat, the Clones had their damage nerfed to be absolutely trash

night swift Dec 9, 2019, 10:21 PM

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Lol alliance is just not meant for good racials other than humans huh

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And KTs

ionic terrace Dec 9, 2019, 10:23 PM

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Feel like the clones weren't meant for damage in the first place tbh

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But they last for like 5 seconds now so idk what use they are

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Maybe getting a node if you can't fly or something LUL

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I just find it funny that Horde complains when Alliance gets nice racials /shrug

dense plover Dec 9, 2019, 10:34 PM

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I mean 120 main stat is still pretty good

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Considering it doesn’t take a slot like a mediocre trinket would

ancient jasper Dec 9, 2019, 10:45 PM

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At 120, during the Clones entire uptime, they just did 158 damage.

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So what the hell are the Clones even for?

dense plover Dec 9, 2019, 11:06 PM

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Might not be balanced correctly

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They’ll probably end up around 20k damage like most damage racials

tranquil steeple Dec 9, 2019, 11:27 PM

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Doesn't Mechagnomes still have the 20% max health heal when they drop below 20% hp or whatever still, though?

uncut vault Dec 10, 2019, 12:22 AM

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yes, but it got a much longer cooldown

weak bison Dec 10, 2019, 7:35 PM

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any news on allied races being a dk yet?

night swift Dec 10, 2019, 7:45 PM

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Still encrypted i think

vernal juniper Dec 10, 2019, 8:37 PM

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we got datamining in the past about it

ionic terrace Dec 10, 2019, 10:49 PM

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Got this from a Lost Area end of run chest in SW vision

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Gives you nazjatar followers but at rare level and three vitality

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dense plover Dec 11, 2019, 12:10 AM

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oooo

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interesting

tropic rain Dec 11, 2019, 9:29 PM

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What is the catchup gear ilvl on the PTR atm?

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400 or 415

normal mango Dec 11, 2019, 9:33 PM

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415 boa tokens and 400 crafted gear

tropic rain Dec 11, 2019, 9:36 PM

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the actual gear is 415 right? not the token ilvl

normal mango Dec 11, 2019, 9:37 PM

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correct

tropic rain Dec 11, 2019, 9:37 PM

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ty

dense plover Dec 11, 2019, 10:42 PM

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The actual gear increases with your ilvl

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So the black empire invasion can offer in my experience, Max 435 ilvl

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These are not alt tokens

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The actual gear

tribal sand Dec 12, 2019, 2:05 AM

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i got multiple 445 items from the assaults
azerite pieces that come from the caches are 445 too

dense plover Dec 12, 2019, 2:12 AM

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ah ok, so that must be the max

tribal sand Dec 12, 2019, 3:11 AM

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could be cause on retail we got 415 from emissaries which is nhc loot
and we have 445 from ptr emissaries (and assaults) which is ny'alotha nhc loot

dense plover Dec 12, 2019, 3:55 AM

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probably wont be that on launch

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probably will go up with season 4 release

tribal sand Dec 12, 2019, 4:20 AM

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yeah

vernal juniper Dec 12, 2019, 12:48 PM

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How many weeks later the raid will be launched from the release of the patch?

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On Youtube they were talking about weeks cause you need to upgrade cape according to them

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but for me is only a mechanic to nerf the raid during the progress... So my bet is 1 week later.

strange falcon Dec 12, 2019, 12:58 PM

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it's either 1 or 2 weeks

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as every other raid

dense plover Dec 12, 2019, 2:02 PM

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Could be 3 or 4

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Depends on how long they want the raid to last

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Once S4 drops, they have a max of a 10 months to release shadowlands

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And tbh, in reality they generally want to stay closer to 8 months

tribal sand Dec 12, 2019, 2:12 PM

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i guess they want the people to have the (rank 6) on use cloak and the 4th essence slot with the rank 2 essences which takes u 3 weeks

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maybe the 3rd week is the raid release but i guess they give u 3 weeks and in the 4th week they release the raid

strange falcon Dec 12, 2019, 2:18 PM

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I still strongly believe in a november release date for shadowlands

vernal juniper Dec 12, 2019, 9:09 PM

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any info about https://i.imgur.com/XYylrof.png

Imgur

dense plover Dec 12, 2019, 9:38 PM

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probably irrelevant

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my guess is they were planned for either the vulpera or for the new resources they decided to not add

eager cradle Dec 12, 2019, 9:55 PM

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A November release won't happen because Muh Christmas

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It's October I think

tribal sand Dec 12, 2019, 10:10 PM

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@vernal juniper probably a drop from a specific enemy to get the ressources easier with 8.3

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maybe a vendor to spend season1 or season 2 materials

dense plover Dec 12, 2019, 10:52 PM

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both of those are unlikely

ionic terrace Dec 12, 2019, 11:09 PM

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PTR down btw

dense plover Dec 12, 2019, 11:16 PM

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sick

dense plover Dec 13, 2019, 12:05 AM

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DAILIES WERE BUFFED BOIS

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and the timer is correctly working for both zones finally

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fucking sick

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yep all of the dailies

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great worms are still always in zones tho

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range is still awful on their debuff

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WQ rewards were also buffed

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11 coalescing visions up from 1-2

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so my guess is theyre now 10-15

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which means you can probably run major assaults 4-5 times a week if you really push

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which is GREAT

ionic terrace Dec 13, 2019, 12:22 AM

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Mayla with Baine now

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uh ok that was weird

dense plover Dec 13, 2019, 12:32 AM

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wtf

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the chest gave 5k visions

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not 1k

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5k

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-corruption changed to a green when comparing items

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also looks like they finally removed most of the assault hostile mobs when that assault isnt happening

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still not perfect thop

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the vale is fairly peaceful outside of the assault area now

ionic terrace Dec 13, 2019, 12:37 AM

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MonkaSSS

dense plover Dec 13, 2019, 12:37 AM

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they finally removed gallywix and nathanos from the embassy!

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and the visions thing now costs 10000

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so fuck me

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they changed fucking nothing

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wtf

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they keep bloating the numbers

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but like, theyre bloating them in parallel

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so it does fucking nothing

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backpack transmog is in

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so i guess by increasing the numbers everywhere for coalescing visions, it seems they are trying to smooth out numbers

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but its just a bit ridiculous

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because functionally it still feelts like shit

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50 visions from a daily seems great

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except now you need 10k

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thats 100 dailies

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but its 2 assaults I guess?

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since you get a bit over 5k

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so they DID increase it

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but it feels weird

night swift Dec 13, 2019, 1:04 AM

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I like that subtle ability change for ar dks

tranquil steeple Dec 13, 2019, 1:07 AM

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those MW buffs, delicious

storm marsh Dec 13, 2019, 1:15 AM

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May I just comment on the new DK glow. It looks more realistic and reminds me of Arthas glow from old cinematic

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I wonder how will the elf glow look like. Not like the DK glow.

dense plover Dec 13, 2019, 1:17 AM

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also seems that the weapon effects as corruption effects is intended

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night swift Dec 13, 2019, 2:24 AM

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oh my god backpack tmog!

whole cedar Dec 13, 2019, 2:30 AM

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pray to n'zoth my dudes

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ionic terrace Dec 13, 2019, 2:42 AM

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how'd you get it

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i've been looking for it

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smark

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uh

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whole cedar Dec 13, 2019, 2:48 AM

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@ionic terrace Alliance sees me as a bounty too

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its hilarious

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although the debuff does say the Horde put a bounty on my head

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you'd imagine the Horde would want me to kill my own faction.

ionic terrace Dec 13, 2019, 2:49 AM

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I guess that's the lead in quest for 8.3 since there's no follow up

whole cedar Dec 13, 2019, 2:49 AM

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correct

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pls dont kill me getting this n'zoth quest done is annoying

ionic terrace Dec 13, 2019, 2:50 AM

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oh wait nvm

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it's from 8.2 lol

uncut vault Dec 13, 2019, 5:14 AM

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@whole cedar Do you know if getting the quest for the toy and title requires the eye, or is it something anyone can do?

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Im hoping the former

whole cedar Dec 13, 2019, 5:14 AM

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the character I did the quest on is on a weird situation

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it didnt cleanse the eye, but I don't have the buff

dense plover Dec 13, 2019, 5:14 AM

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yeah buff keeps disappearing

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but it still tracks if you have it

whole cedar Dec 13, 2019, 5:15 AM

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let me try using the toy on an alt without the eye, 1 min

uncut vault Dec 13, 2019, 5:15 AM

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the buff always goes messy on the PTR, but I assume the actual character tag for it still exists

whole cedar Dec 13, 2019, 5:16 AM

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that needs testing but afaik there's no limitation

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would be pretty stupid for people who cleansed the eye otherwise

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my paladin who never got the eye was able to use the toy just fine, its the same ID for both quest and toy versions so I assume so

uncut vault Dec 13, 2019, 5:18 AM

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Bit disappointing if that ends up being the case, makes the eye stuff useless if anyone can get it

whole cedar Dec 13, 2019, 5:18 AM

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I can test it

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she deals no dmg

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do I have the patience to do 27m damage

uncut vault Dec 13, 2019, 5:21 AM

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Is it just her thats killable?

whole cedar Dec 13, 2019, 5:22 AM

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of important npcs, yes

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oh, genn is too, but he's surrounded by guards

whole cedar Dec 13, 2019, 5:38 AM

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nothing happened 😦

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frigid crater Dec 13, 2019, 5:42 AM

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PepeCry

whole cedar Dec 13, 2019, 6:00 AM

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@uncut vault cleansed my eye on another copy and got to assassin, got quest

uncut vault Dec 13, 2019, 6:03 AM

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well thats lame

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I hope they change that, thanks for finding out

plain vigil Dec 13, 2019, 8:50 AM

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So question... did they ever add island expedition boxes with specific reward pools or is that 8.3?

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it's 8.3

vernal juniper Dec 13, 2019, 9:26 AM

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LFG Dungeons
Unknown

Crestfall (New) - Head out for adventure on Crestfall. Level 110-120. Roles: 10 DPS.
Havenswood (New) - Head out for adventure on Havenswood. Level 120. Roles: 10 DPS.
Jorundall (New) - Head out for adventure on Jorundall. Level 120. Roles: 10 DPS.
Teeming Island Expeditions (New) - Head out for adventure on an Island Expedition! Level 120. Roles: 10 DPS.
The Engine of Nalak'sha - Level 120. Roles: 1 DPS. 5 DPS.
Verdant Wilds (New) - Head out for adventure on Verdant Wilds. Level 120. Roles: 10 DPS.

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Wut?

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10 men islands?

cyan prairie Dec 13, 2019, 10:55 AM

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Maybe a Battleground IE? Something like Seething Shore?

tropic trail Dec 13, 2019, 1:03 PM

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edit: thank you

strange falcon Dec 13, 2019, 1:04 PM

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<@&299347348847329281>

dense plover Dec 13, 2019, 1:09 PM

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Teeming islands

frail scaffold Dec 13, 2019, 1:45 PM

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So, does anyone have any prediction on 8.3 release date?

tribal sand Dec 13, 2019, 2:30 PM

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probably a bug but; holy

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tribal sand Dec 13, 2019, 2:48 PM

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ok no bug

storm marsh Dec 13, 2019, 2:48 PM

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guys are account bound reputation items coming in 8.3? to send to our alts

tribal sand Dec 13, 2019, 2:49 PM

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nazjatar and mechagon yes, from others i don t know yet

vernal juniper Dec 13, 2019, 2:49 PM

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@frail scaffold patch will be probable on the week 10-15 January looking at their history release, so probably on 14th January

tribal sand Dec 13, 2019, 2:49 PM

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the vessel cost 10k now

dense plover Dec 13, 2019, 3:00 PM

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Yes

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I posted about this yesterday

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Literally in this channel

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All the rewards were increased

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You can now get probably 2-3 vessels per week depending on the world quests and the dailies

tall thunder Dec 13, 2019, 3:18 PM

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@whole cedar I can’t believe you murdered Jaina, smh

tribal sand Dec 13, 2019, 3:29 PM

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@dense plover sry i haven't checked all messages here, was at work

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i can t even upgrade my cloak anymore
and it was reset to rank 10

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vernal juniper Dec 13, 2019, 4:17 PM

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@dense plover what are the new 10 man versions of islands?

dense plover Dec 13, 2019, 4:21 PM

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We don’t know

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All we know is they’re called teeming

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Also I don’t think they’re actually 10 man

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It’s unclear

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They will probably arrive with 8.3.5 since there’s been no testing

cyan prairie Dec 13, 2019, 4:26 PM

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idk if anyone posted it here before

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it seems like the live wow clients already have the 8.3 PTR icons in them, and possibly few from shadowlands

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and there is a Dark Ranger set icon list between icons of Tauren and Dwarf Heritage Armors

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strange falcon Dec 13, 2019, 4:28 PM

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Considering they use the same icons for wildly different things,like
Sweet nectar and bleach having the same icon,i wouldnt give it too much weight

cyan prairie Dec 13, 2019, 4:28 PM

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the thing is that i didn't see any set using these icons so far

strange falcon Dec 13, 2019, 4:28 PM

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It could also be leveling gear icons or catchup gear for all we know

frail scaffold Dec 13, 2019, 4:28 PM

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thanks @vernal juniper

cyan prairie Dec 13, 2019, 4:29 PM

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and it's put between two already existing Heritage Armors

strange falcon Dec 13, 2019, 4:29 PM

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Ah,i see what you're talking about

cyan prairie Dec 13, 2019, 4:29 PM

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and yeah, i still think there might be one last AR

strange falcon Dec 13, 2019, 4:29 PM

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We always knew an undead AR was due to come,along with the Worgen AR

cyan prairie Dec 13, 2019, 4:29 PM

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due to one last spot for banner in embassies and on the AR list

strange falcon Dec 13, 2019, 4:30 PM

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Ye

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Also only 2 "base" races left without AR

cyan prairie Dec 13, 2019, 4:30 PM

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my theory is that Velonara might become new Forsaken leader with addition of a Dark Ranger AR (yeah, i'm waiting for the /spit on me for another Elf race idea, but i think there isn't anything else that could become an Undead AR)

strange falcon Dec 13, 2019, 4:31 PM

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I mean,i guess dark ranger is less outrageous than light undead

cyan prairie Dec 13, 2019, 4:32 PM

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yeah, and LF Undead appeared on April 1st post from Blizz, pretty much confirming that they won't be an allied race

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my guess for 8.3.5 content: Troll/Draenei Heritage Armor, one last AR and a small "introduction" for SL (like the Silithus quests from 7.3.5)

tranquil steeple Dec 13, 2019, 4:33 PM

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tbf, if Blizz wanted, they could still do it. but making them appear as April Fools joke severely decreases the chances, at the very least

cyan prairie Dec 13, 2019, 4:34 PM

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and they show us that Calia won't be their new leader, while suddenly giving Velonara some attention in next patch

dark furnace Dec 13, 2019, 4:43 PM

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It could be the datamined Loyalist set aswell

cyan prairie Dec 13, 2019, 4:44 PM

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if the loyalist campaign has already ended in 8.2.5, we'd have this set already

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the campaign is over, and it didn't give anything

dark furnace Dec 13, 2019, 4:45 PM

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True, but it might be a leftover if they scrapped it

dense plover Dec 13, 2019, 4:46 PM

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^

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they might just reuse the icons at a later date

cyan prairie Dec 13, 2019, 4:47 PM

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let's hope they will

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i'd like an Undead AR

ionic terrace Dec 13, 2019, 5:26 PM

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I regret to inform you that you can't use the Sliver of N'zoth to kill Nanthanos on the boat PepeCry

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You can attack Garona though

cyan prairie Dec 13, 2019, 5:30 PM

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NaTHANOS is just too powerful, so Blizz didn't allow us to even enter combat with him

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good thing is that you can kill Jaina on alliance boat, so i'll finally have a reason to log my alliance alt khadgarface

tranquil steeple Dec 13, 2019, 6:14 PM

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eww, being unable to kill nathanos

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1/5 star on yelp Kapppppa

smoky mural Dec 13, 2019, 6:24 PM

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good riddance let the light undead meme die

cyan prairie Dec 13, 2019, 6:31 PM

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even better is that the high elf meme died

smoky mural Dec 13, 2019, 6:33 PM

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why

cyan prairie Dec 13, 2019, 6:33 PM

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cuz they're literally Blood Elves with blue eyes

smoky mural Dec 13, 2019, 6:34 PM

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yea but why is that any different than usual they still want them

cyan prairie Dec 13, 2019, 6:35 PM

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because Blizz literally said that they WON'T add them, and ppl still cry that they want them to add helves as playable race

pulsar iris Dec 13, 2019, 6:51 PM

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so its not dead

frozen fable Dec 13, 2019, 7:08 PM

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Can somebody here make a maghar dk on the ptr and tell me how fast you fly with the mountspeed racial + dk bonus (+- pathfinder)? Whenever I try to make a maghar dk, it says I need a shadowlands account to make one.

strange falcon Dec 13, 2019, 7:08 PM

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The dk allied races are a shadowlands feature

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So yes they are like a preorder bonus

normal niche Dec 13, 2019, 7:11 PM

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Yeah

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we got Demon Hunters during was it Legion Pre-patch?

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We got them early if we pre-ordered legion

pulsar iris Dec 13, 2019, 7:22 PM

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the question wasn't if they are SL preorder bonus lol

distant folio Dec 13, 2019, 7:54 PM

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Which icons are you talking about exactly?

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Because all the ones in the picture above are already used in-game

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most of them depict the dwarf and tauren heritage set, and the dark ranger set

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they're not new icons

uncut vault Dec 13, 2019, 8:36 PM

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Dark ranger set was added in 8.1, and all the 8.1 and on dark rangers use it

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Icons don’t always mean player item

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Jaina, Sylvanas, and Magni all have icons for their weapons

cyan prairie Dec 13, 2019, 9:05 PM

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Magni's weapon is actually moggable

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dense plover Dec 13, 2019, 9:08 PM

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thats not his weapon anymore

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he has a hammer now

normal niche Dec 13, 2019, 9:08 PM

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@pulsar iris I wasn't answering the question, I was responding to Dafire's comment.

cyan prairie Dec 13, 2019, 9:27 PM

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The hammer they gave Magni comes from WoD

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some draenei NPCs used it

uncut vault Dec 13, 2019, 9:34 PM

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Magni's hammer is Fearbreaker

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it's had a unique model and been in the files for a while

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he gets it in 8.3 again

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dense plover Dec 13, 2019, 9:37 PM

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^

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the model actually got updated in bfa

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not significantly

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but they apparently fixed some inaccuracies vs its previous look

cyan prairie Dec 13, 2019, 9:38 PM

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i remember him using some golden drill-hammer so far

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that appeared in WoD for the first time

distant folio Dec 13, 2019, 10:00 PM

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this has actually been in the files since cataclysm I believe

dense plover Dec 13, 2019, 10:00 PM

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yes

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but they updated it

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mainly a texture and polygon resolution update in wod

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and then more texture changes with bfa

distant folio Dec 13, 2019, 10:00 PM

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yea but someone above said it's from WoD

dense plover Dec 13, 2019, 10:00 PM

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and some particle changes

distant folio Dec 13, 2019, 10:01 PM

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i think they just fixed the glow and FX https://gamepedia.cursecdn.com/wowpedia/thumb/7/7e/Fearbreaker_model.png/1024px-Fearbreaker_model.png

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this is how it was before

dense plover Dec 13, 2019, 10:30 PM

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Yeah they added lightning

eager cradle Dec 13, 2019, 11:18 PM

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Me im 8.3

night swift Dec 13, 2019, 11:24 PM

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thats uh, a look?

zealous basalt Dec 13, 2019, 11:38 PM

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those eyes

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look very cool

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wonder how do blood elves eyes look

uncut vault Dec 13, 2019, 11:43 PM

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https://gyazo.com/b5fb1cc1624ce760bd9ce6d56b978abd

Gyazo

▶ Play video

lime canopy Dec 13, 2019, 11:44 PM

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Does anyone know how to get to the list that shows all the new 8.3 recipes? I found some sort of link somewhere on wowhead, but I can't anymore

zealous basalt Dec 13, 2019, 11:50 PM

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huh...should that be valid?

lime canopy Dec 13, 2019, 11:53 PM

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Finally found it:
https://ptr.wowhead.com/profession-spells?filter=21;3;80300

Wowhead

Profession Spells

A complete searchable and filterable list of Profession Spells in World of Warcraft: Battle for Azeroth. Always up to date with the latest patch (8.3.0).

plain vigil Dec 14, 2019, 5:19 AM

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When are we gonna get updates like this to our Quillboars

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Would be dope

night swift Dec 14, 2019, 5:37 AM

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W3 is like teasing us with graphics that wow could have if it wasnt so old

dense plover Dec 14, 2019, 6:04 AM

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well firstly

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we just got quillboar updates

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like literally in bfa

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theyre great

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second, we will never get those in wow, even if the engine was brand new

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warcraft 3 is singleplayer, so all of the stuff occurs on your end and any info that DOES need to be transfered on the server in multiplayer is a lot simpler than all of the stuff in wow

tropic trail Dec 14, 2019, 10:31 AM

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WoW graphics does look more unique and less generic then WC 3 graphics

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So Im all WoW graphics > WC3R graphics

cyan prairie Dec 14, 2019, 10:34 AM

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WoW has it's own graphics and saying that "uuh WoW graphics suck" is just dumb.

strange falcon Dec 14, 2019, 11:17 AM

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i have seen people say that

plain vigil Dec 14, 2019, 11:55 AM

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Oh I agree 100% @tropic trail @dense plover @cyan prairie I just want to see them update the OG boar models from razerfen. Also 👏lions update 👏

dense plover Dec 14, 2019, 3:34 PM

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all of the cats need updates

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lions, cheetahs, tigers

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and also giraffes

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and they arent using the new zhevra models yet

plain vigil Dec 14, 2019, 3:36 PM

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Saving it for world revamp 😏

dense plover Dec 14, 2019, 3:39 PM

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nah

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they just arent tagged correctly

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razorfen dungeons have updated quillboar in them

plain vigil Dec 14, 2019, 3:43 PM

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They haven't updated the Quilbeasts yet 😦

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I want my razorfen armored undead quillbeast

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Not the Wod armored one

dense plover Dec 14, 2019, 3:45 PM

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thats why it hasnt been done tho

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also, they like to leave old models in the game

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for hunter pets

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so they cant update all of them

plain vigil Dec 14, 2019, 6:33 PM

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Right, but there's specific designs that aren't available on the newer boar models

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While yes the old styles will always be tameable with a rare, still Should update the razorfen models

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The armor is very different from the Wod version. Also the undead boar model

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dense plover Dec 14, 2019, 6:38 PM

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we might never see those tbh

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the new boar style is probably going to be the standard

plain vigil Dec 14, 2019, 8:16 PM

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You can use the new boar style while still adding the undead varient and armored varient

tropic trail Dec 15, 2019, 1:30 PM

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How much Corrupted Memento can you get per week? Anyone calculated this yet?

dense plover Dec 15, 2019, 2:55 PM

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It depends

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With a full group, probably 1k

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Maybe 1.5 under ideal circumstances

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Probably a lot more once you can start clearing multiple bosses

plain vigil Dec 15, 2019, 3:49 PM

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Doesn't it scale? So if you're top tier stats you're better off soloing

dense plover Dec 15, 2019, 4:02 PM

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no

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it doesnt

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well, sort of

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but the numbers for bosses are scaled where its like - 2 people means bosses have 1.5x hp

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or 5 people would be 3x or 3.5x hp

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so overall, larger groups are easier

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not to mention you can clear more trash if you have 5 people

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so your sanity lasts longer

tranquil steeple Dec 15, 2019, 4:42 PM

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even only bringing a tank is a big help

dense plover Dec 15, 2019, 4:46 PM

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i mean, I main a tank, bare minimum you need a tank and a dps

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or two dps and a tank

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groups of 3 will probably end up the most optimal

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especially with self sustain tanks like paladin and brew

plain vigil Dec 15, 2019, 7:23 PM

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Right but if you know how to play your class, it shouldn't be an issue to survive long enough to pick off adds or bosses

dense plover Dec 15, 2019, 7:24 PM

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well

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you only have so much sanity

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if you can go faster, you can last longer

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because you lose less sanity

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since its a per second drain

plain vigil Dec 15, 2019, 7:25 PM

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Oh damb

dense plover Dec 15, 2019, 7:25 PM

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all sanity drain is per second

lyric heart Dec 16, 2019, 7:00 AM

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is it wise to stay as long as possible in those "mini" visions - uldum & shrine - to get coalescing currency? I noticed I got all profession recipes after 2-3 days and then the mobs just gave me the currency now and then
or farm that currency in the assault zones instead?

dense plover Dec 16, 2019, 7:07 AM

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Don’t think either of those is very effective. There are fares in the mini visions and I would say those are worth it, but otherwise, the best way of getting the coins is through the major visions and the best way of getting coalescing visions is through actual assault weeklies and from the dailies in those zones

lyric heart Dec 16, 2019, 7:08 AM

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true

dense plover Dec 16, 2019, 7:33 AM

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Rares, not fares

tropic trail Dec 16, 2019, 12:44 PM

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Did they announce anything about AK in 8.3?

lyric heart Dec 16, 2019, 1:19 PM

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on PTR right now from 70 to 71 takes like 3K ap only? I am not sure if that's going to be implemented like that on live. But I am sure getting to 70 in 8.3 should take as 'long' as getting to 55-60 nowadays.

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Even 75 tbh but no infos on AK afaik

tropic trail Dec 16, 2019, 1:39 PM

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How many Mana Pearls does the rep token cost on ptr for Nazjatar faction?

round lake Dec 16, 2019, 2:57 PM

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a few people are saving paragon caches for when the new patch drops for the AP, is it confirmed that itll work that way?

zealous basalt Dec 16, 2019, 2:57 PM

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Holy shit, those are a lot of caches

lyric heart Dec 16, 2019, 4:25 PM

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I'm saving up my reputation around 19,5k/10k and then get them turned in on patch day. There's an addon to track your reputation past 10k (Paragon Reputation I think). Last time I checked it was working like this on the PTR, a week ago. But builds keep coming so I don't know if they changed it. Nevertheless it is definitely smart to try not to 'double cap' your reputatoin.

dense plover Dec 16, 2019, 4:43 PM

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Saving caches doesn’t work

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The AP is acquired when you collect the cache

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You can save paragon rep for it but if you collect the cache, you don’t get more AP

lyric heart Dec 16, 2019, 4:44 PM

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Did they change it recently then in the build?

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Or is it like when the 50 cap changed to 70

dense plover Dec 16, 2019, 4:45 PM

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They changed that a while ago

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Before 8.2

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You can’t save caches for AP

lyric heart Dec 16, 2019, 4:45 PM

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Yeah I see

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Even if I don't even turn in the quest?

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Sorry my vocab is horrible right now D:

dense plover Dec 16, 2019, 4:47 PM

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No, if you don’t turn in the quest, it saves the AP I think

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But you can’t save more than that

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That’s a max of 6 or 7 caches worth of quests

lyric heart Dec 16, 2019, 4:48 PM

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Yeah so I just keep my rep at 19k before turning everything in. So with some extra small effort, on patch day I will get double the caches 😄

dense plover Dec 16, 2019, 4:49 PM

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Uh, no? I don’t think you can earn more rep while having full paragon rep

normal mango Dec 16, 2019, 4:50 PM

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you can have up to 19,999 rep at one time then you no longer gain rep (so 1 rep off 2 paragon boxes)

lyric heart Dec 16, 2019, 4:51 PM

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Yeah. 19,5k on patch day - > turn in first paragon - > reach paragon again then turn that one in. Of course opening the box before I get the second box just to make it safe

dense plover Dec 16, 2019, 4:51 PM

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Oh then maybe? It’s possible that the amount of AP you are scheduled for won’t change

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Idk

lyric heart Dec 16, 2019, 4:52 PM

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I will recopy the character I prepared the rep thing for and see what it gives.

dense plover Dec 16, 2019, 4:54 PM

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Good test

lyric heart Dec 16, 2019, 5:36 PM

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Yeah , like I said, turned in paragon and got AP from the quest turn-in, then got my rep to paragon again and another AP from quest turn-in 😄

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neck level from 70 to 72 (from 2 caches)
So don't turn in any paragon quest until patch day ^^

round lake Dec 16, 2019, 5:39 PM

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but thats gold i want now lol

lyric heart Dec 16, 2019, 5:40 PM

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Your choice of course 😄 but the sooner I reach 75 for the last minor essence, the better xD

round lake Dec 16, 2019, 5:40 PM

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true

lyric heart Dec 16, 2019, 5:40 PM

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And eventually 80/85

safe light Dec 16, 2019, 5:42 PM

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You can get your rep all the way up to 19999/10000 paragon right?

lyric heart Dec 16, 2019, 5:43 PM

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You can yes

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I have rustbolt around 19531/10000 and turned them in , one after each other, just now on PTR 🙂

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complete quest, get AP from quest completion, open the box for gold and other goodies, and I repeated that after the world quest :p

safe light Dec 16, 2019, 5:45 PM

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Sounds good

vernal juniper Dec 16, 2019, 7:21 PM

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is it prealpha day?

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or F&F whatever you want call it

dense plover Dec 16, 2019, 7:44 PM

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Probably not?

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Probably not until after December

dense plover Dec 16, 2019, 9:07 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/631245303546118166/656239924227473409/unknown.png

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wanted to confirm corrupted mobs HAVE NOT been removed

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this one gave me 6 corruption for 30 min, and 10 corrupted momentos

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so that may be a momento farming method

tropic trail Dec 17, 2019, 1:48 AM

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grinding method

dense plover Dec 17, 2019, 1:57 AM

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flying around the zone looking for corrupted mobs

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theyre rare

signal bone Dec 17, 2019, 2:55 AM

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will we get alpha before 8.3.5. ptr?

dense plover Dec 17, 2019, 2:59 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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probably not

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8.3.5 ptr will probably go up february

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at the latest

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might go up a week after s4 starts

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since itll probably drop the week after the last wing of lfr

vernal juniper Dec 17, 2019, 12:21 PM

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8.3.5 ?

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what is the point for another patch

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3 months patch?

upper lantern Dec 17, 2019, 1:18 PM

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There has been a final .5 patch for a while now.

pulsar iris Dec 17, 2019, 1:43 PM

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probably just a pre xpac patch where we finish the story of bfa

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you guys thinking scourge invasions go in 8.3.5 or pre 9.0?

zealous basalt Dec 17, 2019, 1:45 PM

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9.0

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pre

pulsar iris Dec 17, 2019, 1:57 PM

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i hope not. i'm not leveling new characters because i'm waiting for 9.0 changes

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and that's pretty much all i do in wow

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i would like to try the scourge invasions sooner than later

zealous basalt Dec 17, 2019, 2:08 PM

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they said it was gonna be a prepatch event

pulsar iris Dec 17, 2019, 2:29 PM

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they can change their mind 😦

normal niche Dec 17, 2019, 2:51 PM

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Nah

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Scourge Invasions will be in 9.0, Pre-Patch Events are usually active weeks before the expansion launch

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the content will be locked

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but the pre-patch won't

dense plover Dec 17, 2019, 3:21 PM

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^

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8.3.5 will have any final bfa content

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Probably teeming islands

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I would expect some kind of transition questline

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And probably somethings to make grinding old content easier

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Like making islands give more doubloons

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Or increasing rep from WQs

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And if there are any more ARs, they’ll be in 8.3.5

vernal juniper Dec 17, 2019, 3:37 PM

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@dense plover maybe level squish?

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back on days they did squish during last patch of dreanor

novel zodiac Dec 17, 2019, 3:37 PM

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Didn't Ion said that we would be able to level alts in the Scourge Invasion?

zealous basalt Dec 17, 2019, 3:38 PM

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ye

dense plover Dec 17, 2019, 3:43 PM

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Level squish will happen with new leveling which will happen with prepatch

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They can’t do the squish without the new leveling and the squish assumes you are doing SL content, so doing that before 9.0 would be a disaster

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People will still be doing the AOTC achievement for raids in 8.3.5

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They won’t do anything that will change the balance of current content until that content isn’t current

uncut vault Dec 17, 2019, 4:38 PM

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I think 8.3.5 is unlikely at this point. We've got a lot of stuff tagged for 8.3.5 coming in 8.3 instead

strange falcon Dec 17, 2019, 4:40 PM

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i think it's still coming

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to combat the drought

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it's not like blizz hasnt released patches with little content

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COUGH 6.1 COUGH

cyan prairie Dec 17, 2019, 4:42 PM

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we still didn't get an AR for Undeads, Heritage Armor for Trolls etc.

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and there might be a small introduction to SL

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something like Silithus quests after Antorus

strange falcon Dec 17, 2019, 4:42 PM

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also prepatch

dense plover Dec 17, 2019, 4:43 PM

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I mean, the real thing is teeming islands

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Those are clearly getting pushed

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But also still getting work

cyan prairie Dec 17, 2019, 4:45 PM

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i wonder

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if SL will begin with a scenario

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like 3 previous expansions did

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maybe with us trying to defend ICC against Sylvanas or something like that

strange falcon Dec 17, 2019, 4:46 PM

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i think they said the undead stuff is prepatch

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maybe the scenario

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is us getting into ICC

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and actually entering the shadowlands and escaping the maw

cyan prairie Dec 17, 2019, 4:46 PM

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i mean

strange falcon Dec 17, 2019, 4:46 PM

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plopping us right in bastion

cyan prairie Dec 17, 2019, 4:46 PM

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prepatch might be with some kind of a questline

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like when we burned Teldrassil

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but ending with Helm getting destroyed

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and leading to the invasions of Scourge

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then later some scenario with ICC defense or whatever

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i'd like to see a scenario where we defend Icecrown against Kvaldir

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if i remember correctly - there was a quest in Borean Tundra saying that Kvaldir were the only thing that the Scourge was afraid of attacking

tranquil steeple Dec 17, 2019, 4:49 PM

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lowkey hope the Helm being broken happens mid-point and we have to make sure the now rampaging scourge doesn't destroy too much

cyan prairie Dec 17, 2019, 4:50 PM

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it would make sense tho - it would begin the prepatch and start the invasions that were meant to be a prepatch thing

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we need to be involved in the story there somehow

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that's why i think that 8.3.5 will be a tiny "start" for SL

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btw

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when a new patch is on PTR there are M+ tests for the new affix, right?

dense plover Dec 17, 2019, 5:02 PM

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Yes. New affix was tested already

cyan prairie Dec 17, 2019, 5:03 PM

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i thought it didn't happen yet

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because the amount of raid tests on PTR makes me think the patch may come even later than we expect

smoky mural Dec 17, 2019, 5:06 PM

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There won't be any heritage armour in 8.3.5

cyan prairie Dec 17, 2019, 5:07 PM

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how can you know?

dense plover Dec 17, 2019, 5:20 PM

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It’s unlikely. But I do expect them to continue making them for the core races

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Troll, draenei, human, undead, orc, night elf

cyan prairie Dec 17, 2019, 5:22 PM

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Orc, Undead, Nelf and Human are off that list imo

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they got their own themed sets from warfronts

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Belves, Taurens, dwarves and idk. what else on ally got their heritage - they got Heritage Armors but not Warfront armors

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Trolls and Draenei didn't get either of them

tranquil steeple Dec 17, 2019, 5:23 PM

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eww no give them proper heritage sets.

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not scuffed armor with random label on it

cyan prairie Dec 17, 2019, 5:24 PM

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Have you seen any Orcier set than this one?

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there's no need for heritage armors for Orcs for example

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same goes for Undeads, Nelves and humans

tranquil steeple Dec 17, 2019, 5:26 PM

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that looks horde-like, just like the other warfront sets

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or, well, the other armor types from the same warfront

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what I mean is "give them a proper orc set fit for orcs and not horde as a whole"

dense plover Dec 17, 2019, 5:27 PM

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Exactly, it matches the faction aesthetic. But it’s not traditional orcish armor

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Heritage armor should scream orc, not horde

cyan prairie Dec 17, 2019, 5:27 PM

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what about Darkshore armor then?

dense plover Dec 17, 2019, 5:27 PM

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Same with undead

cyan prairie Dec 17, 2019, 5:27 PM

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it's 100% Undead themed

dense plover Dec 17, 2019, 5:27 PM

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It should scream lordaeron, not forsaken

cyan prairie Dec 17, 2019, 5:29 PM

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then what armor should they get then?

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a Lordaeron footman armor?

dense plover Dec 17, 2019, 5:29 PM

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Don’t know. Probably something akin to how worgen got gilneas armor. Something that represents their heritage

cyan prairie Dec 17, 2019, 5:30 PM

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and what armor would Orcs get as their Heritage Armor then?

tranquil steeple Dec 17, 2019, 5:30 PM

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the way I'd do it is take inspiration from what the human heritage would look like, then make it look similar, but not the same as the darkshore armor

cyan prairie Dec 17, 2019, 5:30 PM

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not all races wear red spiky armor in Horde

dense plover Dec 17, 2019, 5:31 PM

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Probably something that represents the old horde, or old draenor. Maybe something akin to what the orcs were like before the horde

cyan prairie Dec 17, 2019, 5:31 PM

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i'd even say the Orcs are the only ones wearing such armors

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we already got it

dense plover Dec 17, 2019, 5:31 PM

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They aren’t ingame. We see NPCs wearing that armor

cyan prairie Dec 17, 2019, 5:31 PM

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Mag'har Heritage is it

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representing 3 different clans

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before they became the Horde

dense plover Dec 17, 2019, 5:32 PM

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they will probably happen. It would be weird to have every race have heritage armor except for a few ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Especially because what are you going to tell new players? They have to go run a warfront to get an armor set when all the others are rep based?

cyan prairie Dec 17, 2019, 5:33 PM

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we don't know what happens to warfronts after BfA

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these sets may just become a purchasable sets for Honorbound Service Medals

dense plover Dec 17, 2019, 5:33 PM

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So then you have to go grind medals in old content?

plain vigil Dec 17, 2019, 5:33 PM

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I think we'll be getting each race as a pvp armor set in the future xpacs. And they'll work backwards so orcs and humans are last to get Heratage, first to get pvp while dwarves and Belfs were first to get Heratage and will be last to get pvp

dense plover Dec 17, 2019, 5:33 PM

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That’s still totally inconsistent with how heritage sets are acquired

cyan prairie Dec 17, 2019, 5:33 PM

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just like you need to go grind for Nightborne and HM Taurens to get them

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you need to go back to Legion

dense plover Dec 17, 2019, 5:34 PM

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That’s not at all similar

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Those are ARs

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You’re comparing apples and oranges

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We have 6 heritage sets

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They all work the same

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They aren’t going to have some that don’t

strange falcon Dec 17, 2019, 5:35 PM

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orcs and humans is the arathi warfront set

cyan prairie Dec 17, 2019, 5:35 PM

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the difference is that all races that got Heritage armors, didn't get a warfront armor and vice versa

tranquil steeple Dec 17, 2019, 5:35 PM

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honestly, if anything, now that I think about it and compare with other heritage sets

plain vigil Dec 17, 2019, 5:35 PM

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Very obvious Orc Heratage set

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cyan prairie Dec 17, 2019, 5:35 PM

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this set

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is already in game pretty much

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T3 Horde plate aspirant

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unavailable to players tho

tranquil steeple Dec 17, 2019, 5:36 PM

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orcs could get something like either Grom's armor, or Thrall's (before Cata)

dense plover Dec 17, 2019, 5:36 PM

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They’re not going to leave races out of heritage armor man. Because once the expac after SL comes out, BfA won’t even be leveling content, and then you’ll just be expecting players to go grind a currency for their heritage set

plain vigil Dec 17, 2019, 5:36 PM

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^

tranquil steeple Dec 17, 2019, 5:36 PM

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because they're super notable characters of the Orcs

dense plover Dec 17, 2019, 5:36 PM

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Which again, is totally inconsistent with heritage armor acquisition

cyan prairie Dec 17, 2019, 5:36 PM

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Grom's Armor = Warsong Heritage armor pretty much

tranquil steeple Dec 17, 2019, 5:36 PM

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just like Taurens get a Tauren Chieftain like armor for their Heritage

dense plover Dec 17, 2019, 5:36 PM

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Grom was the leader of the first horde

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It would make sense

cyan prairie Dec 17, 2019, 5:37 PM

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dense plover Dec 17, 2019, 5:37 PM

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Either that or old school frost wolf armor

cyan prairie Dec 17, 2019, 5:37 PM

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just the shoulders got changed

dense plover Dec 17, 2019, 5:37 PM

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Uh, no that looks nothing like groms armor

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But as I said we could get frost wolf type - IE wearing a wolf or something

plain vigil Dec 17, 2019, 5:37 PM

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Groms armor^

dense plover Dec 17, 2019, 5:37 PM

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Or this ^

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That’s thralls armor

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Groms was different

strange falcon Dec 17, 2019, 5:38 PM

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i mean,i am pretty sure you can get thrall's look

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by mixing a few sets

tranquil steeple Dec 17, 2019, 5:38 PM

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pretty close, yeah

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not exact but close

cyan prairie Dec 17, 2019, 5:38 PM

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look at this set

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and put T1 shoulders instead of these

dense plover Dec 17, 2019, 5:38 PM

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https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/876246.jpg

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this is groms armor

cyan prairie Dec 17, 2019, 5:39 PM

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these shoulders

plain vigil Dec 17, 2019, 5:39 PM

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@dense plover thrall wore grom's armor to honor his memory

dense plover Dec 17, 2019, 5:39 PM

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its not tho

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youre just wrong mauldrak

cyan prairie Dec 17, 2019, 5:39 PM

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i'm wrong because i don't agree with you? xD

dense plover Dec 17, 2019, 5:39 PM

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no

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factually

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groms armor

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that would be a good orc heritage set

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it looks nothing like anything we have

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https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/876246.jpg

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see?

cyan prairie Dec 17, 2019, 5:40 PM

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that's W3 reforged model

plain vigil Dec 17, 2019, 5:40 PM

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Ah wait that's doomhammer nvm

cyan prairie Dec 17, 2019, 5:40 PM

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go check the WoW one instead

dense plover Dec 17, 2019, 5:40 PM

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thats groms armor

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its based on his old one

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he was never in wow

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that grom is alternate grom

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its not the same

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https://i.imgur.com/TBorNSO.jpg

Imgur

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similar

tranquil steeple Dec 17, 2019, 5:41 PM

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and influenced by Garrosh and his plans for the Iron Horde (atleast to some degree)

dense plover Dec 17, 2019, 5:41 PM

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but not the same

cyan prairie Dec 17, 2019, 5:42 PM

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we won't get

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the same armors

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as the leaders had

dense plover Dec 17, 2019, 5:43 PM

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but we might get similar ones

cyan prairie Dec 17, 2019, 5:43 PM

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Heritage armor is something meant to be similiar

dense plover Dec 17, 2019, 5:43 PM

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since we dont have anything similar to grommash's original armor

cyan prairie Dec 17, 2019, 5:43 PM

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dense plover Dec 17, 2019, 5:43 PM

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not his warlord armor

cyan prairie Dec 17, 2019, 5:43 PM

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this set IS similiar to the one Grom has in WoW

dense plover Dec 17, 2019, 5:43 PM

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his original armor

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grom in wow is warlords grom

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his style is different

tranquil steeple Dec 17, 2019, 5:44 PM

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y'mean how the tauren heritage set is based off Tauren Chieftains... like Cairne... the racial leader before the current Baine

dense plover Dec 17, 2019, 5:45 PM

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^

plain vigil Dec 17, 2019, 5:45 PM

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Orgrims armor is tbh the only thing that makes sense for orc Heratage

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cyan prairie Dec 17, 2019, 5:47 PM

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still

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even if we were to get Orc heritage armors

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i doubt it would happen

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before the Troll one

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and it'd be an easy choice

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some wooden armor based on Vol'jin's set

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no idea what would be for draenei tho

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maybe the robes similiar to the ones used by Velen?

plain vigil Dec 17, 2019, 5:52 PM

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I think they intentionally saved the troll set for the bwomsamdi stuff in Ardenweald

tranquil steeple Dec 17, 2019, 5:52 PM

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it's either gonna be Bwonsamdi or Vol'jin related for sure

cyan prairie Dec 17, 2019, 5:53 PM

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is he gonna actually show up in Ardenweald? Was it mentioned anywhere and i missed it or what?

tranquil steeple Dec 17, 2019, 5:53 PM

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since either are pretty mysterious right now

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there's a dungeon coming in SL dedicated to Bwonsamdi

cyan prairie Dec 17, 2019, 5:53 PM

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that's what i know

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i don't remember them saying where exactly the entrance is tho

tranquil steeple Dec 17, 2019, 5:54 PM

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so it's pretty likely he'll show up at some point while we're questing wondering what the hell we're doing in the Shadowlands when we're not dead

plain vigil Dec 17, 2019, 5:54 PM

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What Sel said. And yes they confirmed Bwomsamdi's domain is in Ardenweald as he is a loa

cyan prairie Dec 17, 2019, 5:54 PM

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didn't they say that Bwonsamdi has his own part of the Shadowlands?

tranquil steeple Dec 17, 2019, 5:54 PM

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pretty much the dungeon, wasn't it?

plain vigil Dec 17, 2019, 5:54 PM

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Yes within Ardenweald

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The dungeon is in Ardenweald

tranquil steeple Dec 17, 2019, 5:55 PM

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something like the Halls of Valor just.. in the Shadowlands

plain vigil Dec 17, 2019, 5:55 PM

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As for undead Sylvanas's armor is already a set so for undead I'mma bet it will have to do with Calia in some way

cyan prairie Dec 17, 2019, 5:56 PM

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ugh... Calia...

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her armor doesn't fit... anything...

plain vigil Dec 17, 2019, 5:58 PM

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I mean she is part of the royal family. The only reason people don't like her is because they have a hate b*ner for the light

cyan prairie Dec 17, 2019, 5:59 PM

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nah, people hate her because she's just boring

plain vigil Dec 17, 2019, 6:00 PM

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Pope set for undead Confirmed

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cyan prairie Dec 17, 2019, 6:03 PM

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like this one?

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dense plover Dec 17, 2019, 6:17 PM

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draenei armor would be a vindicator set

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almost guaranteed to be this

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unless that armor is ingame already

limber mural Dec 17, 2019, 6:19 PM

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it's similar to BRF paladin tbh

tranquil steeple Dec 17, 2019, 6:19 PM

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well... it is... T4 I believe

dense plover Dec 17, 2019, 6:19 PM

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hmmmm

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i still expect something heavy, maybe with some cloth elements

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outside of velen, most draenei wear armor

tranquil steeple Dec 17, 2019, 6:20 PM

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pulsar iris Dec 17, 2019, 6:24 PM

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i still think calia looks like has no texture in her face

round lake Dec 17, 2019, 6:37 PM

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what if they went the nobundo route?

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plain vigil Dec 17, 2019, 6:43 PM

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https://www.wowhead.com/transmog-set=1892/battlegear-of-guiding-light-normal-lookalike

Wowhead

Battlegear of Guiding Light (Normal Lookalike)

A Plate transmog set from Warlords of Draenor. View it on your character with the model viewer. See a list of what transmog goes with it. Requires level 100.

pulsar iris Dec 17, 2019, 7:15 PM

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when broken playable

dense plover Dec 17, 2019, 7:52 PM

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^ draenei and broken have very different culture

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because broken have no connection to the light

jade basalt Dec 17, 2019, 8:05 PM

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Races that got heritage armor likely won't get warfront armor, and races that got warfront armor likely won't get heritage armor.
Blizzard can't give warfront armor and heritage armor to every single race. It's either or. That's why none of the warfront set races got heritage armor, or why none of the races that got heritage armor, got warfront sets.

Basically, the goal is to give racial armor to every race. Whether it's warfront sets, or heritage sets.

Humans and Orcs got the Arathi warfront sets (that's why they're designed after Humans and Orcs), Night elves and Forsaken got the Darkshore warfront sets (that's why they're designed after Night elves and Forsaken), and the rest got heritage armor - the only races that didn't get racial armor so far are trolls and draenei, so it is possible that we'll get a last round of heritage armor in 8.3.5 (there's also pandaren technically, but we'll see). It would be even better if they got warfront sets, but a warfront for 8.3.5 would be lucky.

Personally I prefer warfront racial armor because they come in 4 variants (and 3 tiers), one per armor type. This allowed, for instance, the orcs, to get a juggernaut set, a warlock/Shadow Council set, etc. or night elves to get a Priest of the Moon set etc. - it allows Blizzard to explore different facets of a race, while heritage armor is just 1 single set.

distant folio Dec 17, 2019, 8:06 PM

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yeah I loved the orc and human sets personally. i think the quality was way higher than the night elf sets.

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The orcish plate said was like, full Saurfang.

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I just wish my shaman could wear the Cloth/orcish warlock set, but I get why I can't.

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oh the human Plate one was so good too, proper WC3 footman/knight

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and the human Cloth one too actually, I wish it came in a Dalaran recolor though

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and the night elf ones should've come in a green recolor for Wardens or whatever, the blue and gold was atrocious

cyan prairie Dec 17, 2019, 8:08 PM

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the Vindicator set already got a renewed version

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BrF NM Paladin set

jade basalt Dec 17, 2019, 8:09 PM

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So did the footman set, in WoD. 😉

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There's a ton of ways to do heritage armor for Draenei without copying the Vindicator set.

distant folio Dec 17, 2019, 8:09 PM

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or a better version of it

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like how the Arathi plate set is a footman set, but a much better version than the standard footman armor

jade basalt Dec 17, 2019, 8:10 PM

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Exactly.

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Personally I'm fond of the idea of incorporating shoulders like Velen's, or like the ones in this art. https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/forscherliga/images/f/f8/Maraad-WoD-portrait-large.jpg/revision/latest/top-crop/width/360/height/450?cb=20131111190607

distant folio Dec 17, 2019, 8:12 PM

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oh yeah

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i could see it fit most archetypes

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it would fit plated classes and clothy classes at the same time

jade basalt Dec 17, 2019, 8:13 PM

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Can also take inspiration from the Lightforged sets. We're in dire need of purple crystals.

pulsar iris Dec 17, 2019, 8:15 PM

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what makes you think that WF armor is racial armor?

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heritage armor is completely different from WF armor

plain vigil Dec 17, 2019, 8:16 PM

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The way I see it... Heratage armor covers the full race, Warfronts are more so class bound Heratage. I really feel it's a missed opportunity if the stop making Pvp sets tied to racea

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Also another point just because the Warfronts are gone does not mean they have to stop doing racial PvP sets

pulsar iris Dec 17, 2019, 8:17 PM

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but WF sets are not racial

plain vigil Dec 17, 2019, 8:17 PM

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They are very much racially based

pulsar iris Dec 17, 2019, 8:17 PM

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ofc, you can say they look a bit based on some kind of culture. but they are not racial

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specially since every race can wear them

plain vigil Dec 17, 2019, 8:19 PM

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I mean the darkshore sets are very clearly soldier armor of undead and night elfs

pulsar iris Dec 17, 2019, 8:20 PM

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inspired, yes. looks a lot like that. but they are not exclusive

plain vigil Dec 17, 2019, 8:20 PM

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Exculsivity is not a requirement to say that the armor is specific to that race...

pulsar iris Dec 17, 2019, 8:20 PM

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but heritage armor is something the greatest champions of that race are given

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WF armor is just normal loot

plain vigil Dec 17, 2019, 8:21 PM

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Heratage sets are locked because of story reasons. Which is why each race should recieve Heratage sets. But Warfront armor is the armor of a race's specific military

pulsar iris Dec 17, 2019, 8:21 PM

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eehh sorta

plain vigil Dec 17, 2019, 8:22 PM

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Not sorta. Literally

pulsar iris Dec 17, 2019, 8:22 PM

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nope. sorta

plain vigil Dec 17, 2019, 8:22 PM

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The undead darkshore mail armor is literally ripped from the seige of Lordaeron cinematic....

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Of the undead archers

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That armor is very specific to undead. But there's no story reason to limit it to just that race

pulsar iris Dec 17, 2019, 8:24 PM

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but not orcs nor nelves

plain vigil Dec 17, 2019, 8:27 PM

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Wrong again..... The Nelf armor is very clearly traditional Nelf forged armor. The human armor is traditional knight armor. The orc sets are traditional orc mail and cloth.

pulsar iris Dec 17, 2019, 8:28 PM

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never seen that kind of nelf armor before

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orc cloth i gotta give it

plain vigil Dec 17, 2019, 8:33 PM

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And yes the nelf armor is new, but it is very clearly their style of armor

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pulsar iris Dec 17, 2019, 9:04 PM

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oh, look, it has horns. it gotta be the same, even tho the rest is totally different

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but yes, i understand now the military aspect you said

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few of them look a lot like the military of said races would wear. even tho a lot is different, it resembles

plain vigil Dec 17, 2019, 9:20 PM

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They don't look a lot like, they are the cannon military regakia

jade basalt Dec 17, 2019, 9:51 PM

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jrkbToday at 20:15
what makes you think that WF armor is racial armor?
heritage armor is completely different from WF armor

It's racial, in the sense that it's designed after a race. Not in the sense that it's exclusive to that race, that's heritage armor.

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This isn't even up for debate to be honest, they directly stated each Warfront and its sets are themed after 2 races. Arathi is orcs vs. humans, and Darkshore is night elves vs. Forsaken. If looking at the sets wasn't already obvious..

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But the point that was being made is that every race is getting racial-themed armor, either in the form of heritage armor or warfront armor. Only ones left now are trolls and draenei, which may or may not get a racial set if there's a 8.3.5 (and pandaren).

plain vigil Dec 17, 2019, 10:09 PM

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With the inclusion of the Vale, and the repair of said Vale in 8.3, it feels like pandaren are next in line for Heratage set(s) hopefully one for each pandaren type

dense plover Dec 17, 2019, 10:10 PM

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that would make literally zero sense

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its racial

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theyll have 1 set

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a pandaren set

plain vigil Dec 17, 2019, 10:11 PM

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Hopefully is the key word here

dense plover Dec 17, 2019, 10:11 PM

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if they were to have alts, it would be for the colors of the different celestials

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hopefully makes no sense tho

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the whole point is racial armor

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not faction

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we already have a ton of pandaria armor thats faction based

plain vigil Dec 17, 2019, 10:16 PM

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Heratage doesn't necessarily mean only race for example Velfs and Belfs (although I see the faulty in using them as an example) the two subcultures of Pandaren players do have their own doctrine and founding, thus their own Heratage. So while it may not happen for the reasons you're saying, arguing that it would make "literally zero sense" is faulty. Especially since their is a clear faction divide and visual difference in the armor style of the subcultures.

uncut vault Dec 17, 2019, 10:17 PM

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I’d love it if the pandaren heritage wuest was Shen Zin Su returning to Pandaria for the first time in hundreds of years, and seeing the effect that has on both the island and on the mainlanders

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Could be a form of unification of the two groups, without needing to be a formal government since that isn’t the pandaren style

plain vigil Dec 17, 2019, 10:19 PM

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Whichever way they take it, saving Dreanai and Trolls for Shadowlands and giving Pandaren Heratage in 8.3.5 makes the most sense to me, as there's story relevance to the pandaren in 8.3, and more story for the trolls in 9.0

pulsar iris Dec 17, 2019, 10:28 PM

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feels like trolls HA quest would involve vol'jin in some way

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so leaving those for SL would be cool

night swift Dec 17, 2019, 10:31 PM

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I would love panda HA having the wandering isle

plain vigil Dec 17, 2019, 10:41 PM

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Honestly Vol'jin is a cool character, but if you look at the full history of the darkspear, they have a much stronger heritage connection to bwomsamdi, given he has story in 9.0 and a dungeon if he falls having a story about it would make sense for the set to surround bwomsamdi's apperance rather than random wood armor

pulsar iris Dec 17, 2019, 10:51 PM

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yeah but vol'jin story is still not complete

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and i can see they uncovering all the mystery on who whispered to sylvanas and brought him as a spirit in the HA questline

plain vigil Dec 17, 2019, 10:53 PM

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Cough replacing bwomsamdi cough

dense plover Dec 17, 2019, 11:00 PM

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unlikely

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why would he be a loa whose power doesnt line up with who he was?

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loas dont replace each other

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you just create new ones

novel zodiac Dec 18, 2019, 3:37 AM

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Guys, i have a question, there are new matts in 8.3?

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i know that there are new recipes, but i don't know about herbs/ores

dense plover Dec 18, 2019, 4:10 AM

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Some cooking stuff

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That’s it

dense plover Dec 18, 2019, 5:12 AM

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Just read a really good point. BfA was the nzoth expansion. At first that sounds underwhelming, but nzoth isn’t yogg or cthun. Everything nzoth does is as a game master, 4 steps ahead of us. If he had been the big bad gloating over us from the start, it would seem cool, but it wouldn’t be appropriate for him. Him being ‘defeated’ in this patch is probably exactly what he wants, which makes it an appropriate bow on this expansion. Everything we have done has been exactly what he wanted.

cyan prairie Dec 18, 2019, 6:49 AM

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Ppl complain about N'zoth getting defeated in a single patch... It's not like we defeated the other 2 Old Gods and G'huun in single patches too...

uncut vault Dec 18, 2019, 6:51 AM

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We defeated manifestations of them, not them at their source. But the complaint isnt that he's defeated in a single patch, because he isnt, it's that the story didn't give him proper focus, something I'd also say of the other two living Old Gods

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BfA should have either been full faction war or full old god, instead of trying to mix both and muddling the waters

smoky mural Dec 18, 2019, 7:15 AM

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it droped the ball on both and ruined both

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the horde is still unsalvageable

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the alliance are idiots now

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and the old gods aren't that much a threat anymore

cyan prairie Dec 18, 2019, 8:16 AM

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In the 8.2.5 scenario Alleria says that the only army able to defeat N'zoth is actually the Horde.

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So with both sides working against N'zoth it seems pretty possible for him to die

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He was always called the weakest Old God too

dark furnace Dec 18, 2019, 8:21 AM

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Didn't she say Sylvanas army?

obtuse vine Dec 18, 2019, 8:21 AM

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“Sylvanas might possess the only army capable of defeating N’zoth”

dark furnace Dec 18, 2019, 8:21 AM

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Wait nevermind, Sylvanas army is the Horde at that point

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Its before she leaves

cyan prairie Dec 18, 2019, 8:26 AM

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Yup

smoky mural Dec 18, 2019, 9:08 AM

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Narratively the horde is still unslavagable

uncut vault Dec 18, 2019, 9:09 AM

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that doesnt matter anyways, Horde doesnt show up at all beyond Baine as token representation in Stormwind

vernal juniper Dec 18, 2019, 11:41 AM

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@dense plover I think that is the plan of Nzoth, "die" on BFA, corrupt shadowlands on 9.0 and coming back stronger on 9.x.x or 10.x, more black empire theme

upbeat cairn Dec 18, 2019, 12:49 PM

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I could be wrong but it seems like they're trying to wrap up all the old lore and stories so they can make a clean move onto new things we haven't seen before.

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Which I'm perfectly ok with.

sullen dawn Dec 18, 2019, 2:09 PM

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I don't think we're ever going to get a black empire expansion unless it's time travel

tropic trail Dec 18, 2019, 2:26 PM

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yep, at this point its more likely that we will meet the old gods next time in a void vs light expansion

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we gonna learn where the old gods realm is, when they die etc

sullen dawn Dec 18, 2019, 2:27 PM

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yeh