#beta-ptr-spoilers | Wowhead: World of Warcraft (WoW) | Page 563

cyan prairie Nov 22, 2019, 4:06 PM

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which boss drops it?

cursive sun Nov 22, 2019, 4:07 PM

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i do not know , i found it in our guild drop information

cyan prairie Nov 22, 2019, 4:08 PM

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it has 2 sockets on wowhead

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maybe it is a bug that it has 2 effects, idk

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nvm i looked up wrong item

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still, 2 socket slots

cursive sun Nov 22, 2019, 4:17 PM

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so..it bug..

cyan prairie Nov 22, 2019, 4:18 PM

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probably

normal mango Nov 22, 2019, 4:19 PM

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maybe they're from the assault caches which were recently changed to say "Contains Coalescing Visions, currencies and a chance for a corrupted item."

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that would make the assaults quite appealing then

cyan prairie Nov 22, 2019, 4:19 PM

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yeah it's possible too

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especially since it has quite low ilvl

cursive sun Nov 22, 2019, 4:27 PM

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i want believe it not bug, because it give more option , but i also want it bug.because it will need quadratic time to stay in M+ and raid..

cyan prairie Nov 22, 2019, 4:28 PM

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if it's not a bug, then we're going to have a chance for multiple "titanforges" and ppl don't seem to like that idea...

cursive sun Nov 22, 2019, 4:29 PM

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yeah ... agree..

zealous basalt Nov 22, 2019, 4:31 PM

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.probs a bug...report it?

dense plover Nov 22, 2019, 4:31 PM

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almost definitely a bug

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wait

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does it have that in game?

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it could just be the site

cyan prairie Nov 22, 2019, 4:32 PM

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it has 2 effects in game, while wowhead shows 2 socket slots instead

dense plover Nov 22, 2019, 4:33 PM

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2 corruption effects?

cyan prairie Nov 22, 2019, 4:33 PM

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aye

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dense plover Nov 22, 2019, 4:33 PM

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might not be a bug

cursive sun Nov 22, 2019, 4:33 PM

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2 socket = 2 effects. it looke same

dense plover Nov 22, 2019, 4:33 PM

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hard to say

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did it proc the correct amount of corruption?

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i would report it just in case

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oh, no it didnt

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it gained an extra effect

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but no extra corruption

cursive sun Nov 22, 2019, 4:34 PM

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it didnt

dense plover Nov 22, 2019, 4:34 PM

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definitely a bug

cursive sun Nov 22, 2019, 4:34 PM

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yeah

dense plover Nov 22, 2019, 4:34 PM

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report it

cursive sun Nov 22, 2019, 4:35 PM

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i prefer to wait , may be more item like that?

dense plover Nov 22, 2019, 4:36 PM

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uh

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use the ingame bug report

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dont wait

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thats not how bugs work

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report each thing individually

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reporting en masse is not helpful

zealous basalt Nov 22, 2019, 4:36 PM

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Too much kiss

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Not much curse

cursive sun Nov 22, 2019, 4:38 PM

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okay , i will

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i still want to believe it is a option~,yeah i also believe it is bug..

dense plover Nov 22, 2019, 4:40 PM

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two procs might be an option

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but it didnt proc a second amount of corruption

zealous basalt Nov 22, 2019, 4:45 PM

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I don't think 25 corruption is balanced for 2 effects

strange falcon Nov 22, 2019, 4:45 PM

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you get 25 for 1 weapon

dense plover Nov 22, 2019, 4:45 PM

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its the amount of one effect

strange falcon Nov 22, 2019, 4:45 PM

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with 1 effect

dense plover Nov 22, 2019, 4:45 PM

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it didnt proc more corruption when it added a second effect

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so either it shouldnt add a 2nd effect

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or if it does, it needs to proc corruption again

normal mango Nov 22, 2019, 4:53 PM

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I'm curious as to where those bracers dropped, the assault gives the 425 blue version.

cursive sun Nov 22, 2019, 5:08 PM

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from a worldquest

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a world quest at Vale of Eternal Blossoms

normal mango Nov 22, 2019, 5:11 PM

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ok thanks

dense plover Nov 22, 2019, 5:28 PM

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the assaults dont give items directly anymore

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they can give 430 corrupted gear

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they now both give boxes

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which when opened give coalesced visions

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and can give other stuff

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the nzoth one I think always gives gear

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which can be corrupted OR can proc corruption

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in this case I think it accidentally did both

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general WQ equipment has also had its cap increased to 430

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dense plover Nov 22, 2019, 6:06 PM

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OOOOooo

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assaults are no longer synced to each other

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vale and uldum are on different schedules

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nzoth assault has 3 more days

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but uldum just switched to the aqir assault today

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daily hub moves to the wastewander camp

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tranquil steeple Nov 22, 2019, 6:07 PM

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I actually wonder if there's some event in the zone right before Assault begins

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Just something simple like, if using N'zoth assault as example, a herald yelling something about embracing the truth of N'zoth or whatever

dense plover Nov 22, 2019, 6:08 PM

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nope

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its like when an alliance invasion happens

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it just starts

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this assault also covers the largest area

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daily rewards are literally total shit tho

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its so bad

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idk why theyre so bad

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like 160ap, 50 gold and 12 coalescing visions and 75 rep

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regular WQs give more

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and these dailies are harder to complete

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its fucking nonsense

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if they dont change these, theyre gonna end up patching them very quickly after they release the patch because the number of complaints will be overwhelming

ionic terrace Nov 22, 2019, 6:10 PM

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hopefully still WIP

dense plover Nov 22, 2019, 6:10 PM

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fuck I hope so

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its kind of unacceptable

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they made sense when you needed 100 coalescing visions

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but you need 1000 now

ionic terrace Nov 22, 2019, 6:13 PM

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well the invasions do give 1k

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lol

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I guess Zidormi will be placed with Cho after all

dense plover Nov 22, 2019, 6:16 PM

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only the nzoth one gives 1000

ionic terrace Nov 22, 2019, 6:16 PM

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well damn

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actually

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https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/ptr-known-issues-november-22/371122

dense plover Nov 22, 2019, 6:17 PM

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and?

ionic terrace Nov 22, 2019, 6:17 PM

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and what

dense plover Nov 22, 2019, 6:17 PM

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nothing

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my brain is dumb

ionic terrace Nov 22, 2019, 6:17 PM

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lol

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So is mine, just left Vale to go to Uldum, take the Org portal to Jade instead

dense plover Nov 22, 2019, 6:20 PM

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new daily

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WQ, not daily

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sorry

ionic terrace Nov 22, 2019, 6:22 PM

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Still no idea how you get the Sliver of N'zoth

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Did you do the storyline quest?

dense plover Nov 22, 2019, 6:25 PM

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the crafting thing?

ionic terrace Nov 22, 2019, 6:25 PM

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No the Orsis

dense plover Nov 22, 2019, 6:25 PM

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also BoA random drops had the ilvl upped to 410

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orsis?

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what about it?

ionic terrace Nov 22, 2019, 6:26 PM

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There's a quest like chen and lili and the others

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Questline

dense plover Nov 22, 2019, 6:26 PM

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ah

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im working on that

ionic terrace Nov 22, 2019, 6:26 PM

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ok 😄

dense plover Nov 22, 2019, 6:26 PM

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ill let you know if I figure it out when I get there

ionic terrace Nov 22, 2019, 6:27 PM

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i'min warmode

dense plover Nov 22, 2019, 6:27 PM

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oof

ionic terrace Nov 22, 2019, 6:27 PM

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sorry 😦

dense plover Nov 22, 2019, 6:27 PM

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why?

ionic terrace Nov 22, 2019, 6:27 PM

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was trying to figure out the Sliver thing

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for having the Eye

dense plover Nov 22, 2019, 6:29 PM

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oh

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my eye got wiped at some point

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😦

ionic terrace Nov 22, 2019, 6:30 PM

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oof

dense plover Nov 22, 2019, 7:35 PM

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requires you to go further in

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probably requires later bosses

eager cradle Nov 22, 2019, 10:50 PM

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📎 vulpera_kyrel.PNG

dense plover Nov 22, 2019, 10:53 PM

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yeah

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it doesnt work tho

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wont let you actually play them

eager cradle Nov 22, 2019, 10:54 PM

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Yes but the Mog looks better on my Vulpera than on my Belf

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📎 IMG_20191122_235426.jpg

tropic trail Nov 22, 2019, 10:54 PM

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That hair color ... so nice

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All my hope goes into black hair for night elves

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Or better res in hair because I know they have to comb it even if it’s with a damn stick. I keep wanting to see if they will show us more options v.v guess we gotta wait till the new year

dense plover Nov 22, 2019, 10:58 PM

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definitely gotta wait

worn hedge Nov 22, 2019, 11:06 PM

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Found this on PTR, not sure if it's been reported on yet. Pandaren death knights immediately choose their faction at character creation, even though you still have to trick the game into letting you customize a panda death knight

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zealous basalt Nov 22, 2019, 11:07 PM

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It's a feature

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They start horde or alliance

worn hedge Nov 22, 2019, 11:14 PM

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Yeah, it's like creating a class trial with a Pandaren where you get to choose right away. Thought it was funny that it's already been implemented even though you still can't directly choose death knight on a panda

dense plover Nov 22, 2019, 11:23 PM

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i mean

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its literally already there for creating a boosted pandaren

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for all we know it might be automatic

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since DKs start at 58

novel zodiac Nov 22, 2019, 11:36 PM

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that might be like that because you chose your faction at the end of the starting area

jade basalt Nov 22, 2019, 11:44 PM

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Yeah the pandaren starting zone from MoP is time-locked. It wouldn't make sense if you were raised in BFA/Shadowlands and then were sent back to MoP to progress on the Wandering Isle and then choose your faction and then die at some point to be raised as a DK and- wait we're stuck in a loop.

night swift Nov 22, 2019, 11:49 PM

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They also said pandas and ar dks will be in the new starting area

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Which most likely is “fourth war soldiers” are raised by Bolvar

storm marsh Nov 22, 2019, 11:53 PM

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Why is everyone saying 4th war? Vulperas were not there

zealous basalt Nov 22, 2019, 11:53 PM

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They were part of

storm marsh Nov 22, 2019, 11:53 PM

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Or i guess

zealous basalt Nov 22, 2019, 11:53 PM

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But not participated

storm marsh Nov 22, 2019, 11:53 PM

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My bad. Voldun campaign etc

night swift Nov 22, 2019, 11:58 PM

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Idk if fourth war is exact since mechagnomes and vulpera aren’t technically with the factions yet, but it does make sense for all the others

ionic terrace Nov 23, 2019, 12:00 AM

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4th war and beyond

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To cover for any future races they add

uncut vault Nov 23, 2019, 12:52 AM

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well, its not very beyond

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mainly just lasts up till the end of BfA, timeline wise, so all the races from now on had best be pre-existing ones and not asspulls

ionic terrace Nov 23, 2019, 1:21 AM

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Gnoll DKs

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Wait, Lightforged Void Mechanagnoll Dks

deep pawn Nov 23, 2019, 8:09 AM

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which is why it's safe to assume one more pair of allied races in 8.3.5

strange falcon Nov 23, 2019, 8:18 AM

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Also to add to that

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The banners in the embassies are skewed

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And they're an odd number,from how they're placed so i can see an AR in 7.3.5 and to add to that,theres 1 space remainig on the char creation screen

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@deep pawn

cyan prairie Nov 23, 2019, 8:45 AM

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and one of the races still needs an AR

strange falcon Nov 23, 2019, 9:02 AM

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*2 namely undead & worgen

cyan prairie Nov 23, 2019, 9:08 AM

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one on each side*

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that's what i meant

deft carbon Nov 23, 2019, 11:08 AM

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... Blizz, please don't

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languid yoke Nov 23, 2019, 11:18 AM

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please don't what

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oh I see it

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blizz please don't

zealous basalt Nov 23, 2019, 12:27 PM

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Is that the snarl

strange falcon Nov 23, 2019, 12:31 PM

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glowy eyes i guess

languid yoke Nov 23, 2019, 12:37 PM

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the white dot

dull flame Nov 23, 2019, 12:52 PM

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having red eyes no scars ... lame

storm marsh Nov 23, 2019, 4:27 PM

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Please don't what? 😂

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White dot?

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They probably wanted to fit the puppy eyes from female version

sage rivet Nov 23, 2019, 7:34 PM

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Looks fine imo. Not that different. Didn’t even know what you were talking about at first

ancient jasper Nov 23, 2019, 7:54 PM

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Interesting.. Looks like the Transformation you have when using Dark Ranger's Spare Cowl is also getting updated eyes?

uncut vault Nov 23, 2019, 8:42 PM

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It’s more of a side effect of removing the old eye textures atm

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Elf skins without new eyes are now missing them

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Including dark rangers, high elves, and druids of the flame

dense plover Nov 23, 2019, 8:59 PM

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^

uncut vault Nov 23, 2019, 9:02 PM

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some of them are mildly terrifying

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zealous basalt Nov 23, 2019, 9:12 PM

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Oh gods

ancient jasper Nov 23, 2019, 9:30 PM

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o_o

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It's.. It's looking in to my soul.

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Ah, good to know Portregauge.

tribal sand Nov 23, 2019, 10:32 PM

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has anyone noticed the mainstat proc already?

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cause i found nothing about it yet

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and scrapping a 445 season 4 azerite piece gives u 40 residuum

dense plover Nov 23, 2019, 10:49 PM

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uh

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mine doesnt do that

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did they change the thing to add the 2nd thing?

tribal sand Nov 23, 2019, 10:50 PM

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just upgraded it from 5 to 7 right before i uploaded the picture here

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when did u upgrade yours?

dense plover Nov 23, 2019, 10:51 PM

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recently

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it does not have that secondary proc

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i probably got it before they added that

tribal sand Nov 23, 2019, 10:57 PM

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the name of the proc is Draconic Empowerment (ID: 317859 or 317860)
2 different buffs but only one gives me the agility; the other seems useless but procs more often even if it does nothing right now

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the 317860 one procs while doing nothing; just standing somewhere out of fight gives me the proc

dense plover Nov 23, 2019, 11:01 PM

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one is probably the sanity loss one

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the other is new

tribal sand Nov 23, 2019, 11:02 PM

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but the sanity loss is not a proc

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but they both were included with the recent build 32593

dense plover Nov 23, 2019, 11:04 PM

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hmmm

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weird

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maybe its gonna be tied to a visual

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like the wings with the other wrathion cloak?

tribal sand Nov 23, 2019, 11:04 PM

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yeah this could be possible; should unmog it to test

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ok no visual right now

storm marsh Nov 24, 2019, 12:06 AM

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Do you guys think there is an encrypted Bolvar new model for new DK AR scenario prepared? Or they're leaving it for 9.0 (or 8.3.5 if there will be one)

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waiting to be released alongside new voiceovers

tribal sand Nov 24, 2019, 12:08 AM

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i guess they are waiting with a new model for pre patch or addon release

dense plover Nov 24, 2019, 12:58 AM

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nah

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its almost definitely gonna be in this

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well

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hmmm

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maybe not

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since his updated model is after the helm is removed

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they might have a semi-hd model

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not as good as say sylvanas or something

tropic trail Nov 24, 2019, 12:58 AM

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I hope his sweet runic facial marks will stay on his WoW model

dense plover Nov 24, 2019, 12:59 AM

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but better than the old wrath model

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those will probably be part of the new model

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but the DK scenario takes place before the helm is removed

tropic trail Nov 24, 2019, 1:00 AM

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"Aigh Imma 'bout to head out. Want something from Wendy's, Timmy?"
Timmy the ghoul: "Vulpera!"
"Hmmm... yes."

dense plover Nov 24, 2019, 1:00 AM

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what?

tropic trail Nov 24, 2019, 1:00 AM

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Randomness

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I mean, he couldn't raise AR and pandaren without heading out, right?

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Unless his scourge brought the corpses

dense plover Nov 24, 2019, 1:02 AM

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or you know, the DKs?

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like, the ones from legion?

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who clearly work for him?

tropic trail Nov 24, 2019, 1:03 AM

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His scourge, that's what I said

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They kinda count

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Wouldn't it have been funny if Sylvanas found Bolvar still chilling in a block of ice?

dense plover Nov 24, 2019, 1:05 AM

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wouldnt really make sense

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since we saw him melting

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and wouldve been lame

tropic trail Nov 24, 2019, 1:06 AM

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It's not meant to be a "what if" scenario, just a joke to pass the time

storm marsh Nov 24, 2019, 1:23 AM

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yeah there should be 2 versions. first one with helm on

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i can see clueless people asking why does he still have the helm on

dense plover Nov 24, 2019, 1:24 AM

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well, itll only be confusing once the shadowlands stuff happens

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and only if youre dumb

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or just dont read ANY quest text

storm marsh Nov 24, 2019, 1:25 AM

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wotlk dk starting zone stays in shadowlands right?

dense plover Nov 24, 2019, 1:26 AM

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yes

tropic trail Nov 24, 2019, 1:35 AM

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Surprised Sylvanas didn't kill him with her Warcraft 3 "Give my regards to hell, you son of a b" quote

uncut vault Nov 24, 2019, 2:08 AM

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beyond plot convenience, it's still a mystery as to why she left him alive

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probably ties into the question of why she chose now to open the rift

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Also, there is the possibility of Bolvar getting a new model

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this was added in the most recent build

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ICECROWN_LAVAMAN_SIT_COLLISION.m2

strange falcon Nov 24, 2019, 2:24 AM

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lavaman khadgarface

warm rock Nov 24, 2019, 3:49 AM

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I mean they are not wrong

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Lavaman and shark girl

red raft Nov 24, 2019, 9:23 AM

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Love that Lavaman has been his filename since 3.3. Back in the day when I used to model swap and such; pretty sure that was my first one I did lmao. Human > Lavaman 3.3 I think it was hahah.

strange falcon Nov 24, 2019, 9:25 AM

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Well the forsaken playable race were called in vanilla(and still are)
"Scourge_undead" because initially the team didnt understand how they were different while metzen was like "they're super different!" @red raft

red raft Nov 24, 2019, 9:27 AM

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Hahah. "Just do it, don't ask questions"

native bone Nov 24, 2019, 4:40 PM

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How do I access the assaults and the city visions on the PTR?

dense plover Nov 24, 2019, 6:56 PM

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do the story quests

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must be 120

lean yew Nov 25, 2019, 2:13 AM

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ima need the ptr build after the holidays to have vulpera rummage racial implemented pls

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i need to know what the other items do

normal niche Nov 25, 2019, 1:48 PM

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yikes the corruption system is scary.

dense plover Nov 25, 2019, 2:02 PM

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Not really

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It’s kiss/curse

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If you want to ignore it, you can build up resistance

normal niche Nov 25, 2019, 2:04 PM

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at least imo

novel zodiac Nov 25, 2019, 2:30 PM

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just keep the good corrupted items until you fully upgraded the legendary cloak

dense plover Nov 25, 2019, 2:30 PM

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Or even part way

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The first corruption effect is pretty minor

tropic trail Nov 25, 2019, 2:30 PM

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Unless they have low ILVL

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Then use them either way

dense plover Nov 25, 2019, 2:30 PM

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Then you replace them with higher ilvl later

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Ilvl is separate from corruption

tropic trail Nov 25, 2019, 2:31 PM

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Oh

dense plover Nov 25, 2019, 2:31 PM

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So high ilvl doesn’t mean more corruption

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It’s a separate proc

tropic trail Nov 25, 2019, 2:31 PM

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I thought the higher item level, the bigger corruption level

dense plover Nov 25, 2019, 2:31 PM

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Except for the weapons - those are always 25 corruption

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Nope

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Corruption level is based on the strength of the effect

tropic trail Nov 25, 2019, 2:31 PM

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I see

dense plover Nov 25, 2019, 2:31 PM

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It’s a separate proc that is replacing titan forging

tropic trail Nov 25, 2019, 2:32 PM

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Still not up to speed on what the good effects are

dense plover Nov 25, 2019, 2:32 PM

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Things like 4% total crit increase

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There’s a list

tropic trail Nov 25, 2019, 2:33 PM

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If there's mastery increases, I'm a happy monk

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Carp, he went to look for the list

dense plover Nov 25, 2019, 2:38 PM

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Here

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List of possibilities

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“
Your Avoidance is increased by an amount equal to X% of your Haste.
Increases the amount of Haste you gain from all sources by X%.
Increases the amount of Mastery you gain from all sources by X%.
Increases the amount of Critical Strike you gain from all sources by X%.
Increases the amount of Versatility you gain from all sources by X%.
X% of total Health Regeneration now continues during Combat.
Increases your healing received from all sources by X%.
Increases your Leech by X%.
Your spells and abilities have a chance to grant you a Flash of Clarity, reducing the cooldown of your next 3 spells cast by 2 sec.
Increases the damage you deal with Critical Strikes by X%.
Reduces your damage taken from periodic effects by X%”

tropic trail Nov 25, 2019, 2:38 PM

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I CALLED IT

dense plover Nov 25, 2019, 2:39 PM

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X is 2,3,4

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Corruption amounts are in ranges

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I think

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They might’ve changed that

tropic trail Nov 25, 2019, 2:40 PM

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Imagine getting a mastery effect from every piece as WW :O

dense plover Nov 25, 2019, 2:46 PM

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Good luck making that happen

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You’ll be grinding forever

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Also you would be missing out on some of the other beneficial effects like the increased crit and increased crit damage

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Which are good for monks

zealous basalt Nov 25, 2019, 3:27 PM

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That's actually bad luck

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What you need is vers effect

tropic trail Nov 25, 2019, 3:30 PM

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How? Mastery increases damage dealt

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As long as I don't use the same ability twice

tribal sand Nov 25, 2019, 3:46 PM

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corruption level is not based on the strength of the effect
its a random proc too
its always there if u have a bonus but if its 5, 10 or 25 corruption depends on ur luck

plain vigil Nov 25, 2019, 3:48 PM

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Big problem with corruption is it encourages people to hoard loot

tribal sand Nov 25, 2019, 3:49 PM

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and to mention its not worth a ilvl tier (15 ilvl) to get an effect except crit dmg
cause 4% more mastery from all sources are 80 more mastery
thats really close to the 15 ilvl

strange falcon Nov 25, 2019, 3:49 PM

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@tribal sand actually no,the corruption depends on ilvl

tribal sand Nov 25, 2019, 3:49 PM

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no it doesn't

strange falcon Nov 25, 2019, 3:50 PM

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Ion scrapped the corruption ranges a bunch ago

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Wowhead has the post on it

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With "tiers"

tribal sand Nov 25, 2019, 3:51 PM

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yes cause there were ranges now the ranges are fixed corruption stats like 5, 15 and 25
which one u get is random

dense plover Nov 25, 2019, 4:06 PM

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No it isn’t

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It’s based on the strength of the effect

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You do not get max corruption and weakest effect

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Weakest effect is lowest corruption

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I know

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I’ve gotten several corrupted items on ptr

tribal sand Nov 25, 2019, 4:19 PM

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me too

dense plover Nov 25, 2019, 4:22 PM

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Since they made the changes this build?

tribal sand Nov 25, 2019, 4:25 PM

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only 1 since the last build
did they change this again?

dense plover Nov 25, 2019, 4:27 PM

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Yes

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Corruption is based on strength of effect

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Low corruption for low strength

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Mid for mid

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High for high

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Weapons are static

tropic trail Nov 25, 2019, 4:28 PM

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Gettin' high on corruption

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SMOKIN'

tribal sand Nov 25, 2019, 4:41 PM

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ok thx for the information mate
did i miss a bluepost there or was it just not announced?

dense plover Nov 25, 2019, 4:53 PM

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They announced a while ago in a bluepost

tribal sand Nov 25, 2019, 4:57 PM

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this one? https://www.wowhead.com/news=295836.2/corruption-values-will-become-static-values-on-corrupted-items

Wowhead

Corruption Values Will Become Static Values on Corrupted Items

Game Director Ion Hazzikostas has confirmed on Twitter that Corruption Values on Corrupted Items will become static values in the next PTR update.

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ok found it nevermind

ionic terrace Nov 26, 2019, 6:59 PM

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Wonder if they will push a build this week

ionic terrace Nov 26, 2019, 7:15 PM

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I like how they literally put the mechanagnome banner behind the table

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dense plover Nov 26, 2019, 7:16 PM

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i thought it was on the table

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like a hologram emitter

ionic terrace Nov 26, 2019, 7:16 PM

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Nah it's behind

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Let me get a better angle

dense plover Nov 26, 2019, 7:17 PM

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you should probably report it

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its probably supposed to be in the same line as all the others

ionic terrace Nov 26, 2019, 7:17 PM

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yeah

dense plover Nov 26, 2019, 7:17 PM

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yeah thats clipping too

ionic terrace Nov 26, 2019, 7:17 PM

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it's just plopped there

dense plover Nov 26, 2019, 7:17 PM

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definitely not intentional

ionic terrace Nov 26, 2019, 7:19 PM

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They should just remove the table tbh

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or move it back and remove the chairs

cyan prairie Nov 26, 2019, 8:02 PM

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or remove the banner 🤔

plain vigil Nov 26, 2019, 8:31 PM

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Tread lightly young orc

ionic terrace Nov 26, 2019, 8:59 PM

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in other news this looks pretty cool

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though the tabard is a bit off 😛

thick saddle Nov 26, 2019, 8:59 PM

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DKs (especially on Allied Races), needs additional customizations, to make them look more evil (new faces), as well as the darker skin tones

night swift Nov 26, 2019, 9:08 PM

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Well SL is bringing more options so it might happen

tropic trail Nov 26, 2019, 9:10 PM

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Honestly it would be cool if you could unlock. Customizable appearances.

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Like through the tower and you can find them in chests 🤔

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Or mobs can drop what ever and you go turn it in to the barber or something

uncut vault Nov 26, 2019, 9:18 PM

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shadowlands is currently getting no allied race customization, sadly

thick saddle Nov 26, 2019, 9:30 PM

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Currently? Beta hasn't even begun for Shadowlands, we don't know anything about what might be included (beyond what is already announced). We're likely at least 9 months away from release, maybe a year.

ionic terrace Nov 26, 2019, 9:32 PM

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they said only for core races at blizzcon

thick saddle Nov 26, 2019, 9:33 PM

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And in past years, they've said plenty of things that never came to pass... Dance Studio, Path of Titans, to name a few. Things change 😛

ionic terrace Nov 26, 2019, 9:34 PM

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Don't get me wrong, I would like it but idk, don't see it happening

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maybe in 9.1 or something

uncut vault Nov 26, 2019, 9:36 PM

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Currently, with the knowledge blizzard has given us, we are not getting allied race customization at launch. And Im fairly sure blizzard has never given us something extra that they said wouldnt be coming.

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the stuff you cited were the other way around

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cut content =/= additional content

thick saddle Nov 26, 2019, 9:38 PM

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Don't recall them ever saying we'd get Mechagnomes or Vulpera as allied races... but lo and behold, getting them in 8.3

uncut vault Nov 26, 2019, 9:39 PM

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what does that have to do with this conversation at all lmao

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blizzard saying we are getting content and then cutting it has no equivalence to blizzard explicitly saying we arent getting content and then deciding to add it.

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the latter has never happened

thick saddle Nov 26, 2019, 9:40 PM

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Quoting you...
Im fairly sure blizzard has never given us something extra that they said wouldnt be coming.
And I just proved you wrong. Pretty sure that's relevant to the conversation, Mr lmao

uncut vault Nov 26, 2019, 9:40 PM

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pleace cite where they said "we are not getting mechagnomes and vulpera as allied races"

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because that is the current discussion

thick saddle Nov 26, 2019, 9:41 PM

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Please cite where they said "we are not getting allied race customizations"

uncut vault Nov 26, 2019, 9:42 PM

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https://www.wowhead.com/news=296035/world-of-warcraft-group-interview-recap-torghast-level-squish-flying-pathfinder

Wowhead

World of Warcraft Group Interview Recap - Torghast, Level Squish, ...

One of the interviews held during BlizzCon was the Group Interview, where Blizzard invites everyone from the media community to ask developers about the future of WoW. This year the interview was held by Assistant Art Director, Steve Aguilar, and Technical Director Frank Kowa...

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We are not touching Allied Races at this time, we are focusing on the main races. There are no plans to expanding custom DK customization at this point.

thick saddle Nov 26, 2019, 9:43 PM

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The current discussion began, with me expressing a wish that we'd get more customizations for DKs as Allied Races (with the darker skin tones etc). Never said anything about expecting them to actually add that stuff anytime soon (if ever). DKs for the Core Races have darker skin tones, so one assumes that the Allied DKs should have them as well.

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"Custom DK customization" = Darker skin tones and unique faces, I assume?

That last bit, "There are no plans" ... Plans change all the time

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Also Mr lmao... Nowhere in your quoted article, does it say anything about them not including the same DK features for Allied Races that Core Races already have. It's not about expanding the features for DK, but giving the same features across all races.

uncut vault Nov 26, 2019, 9:48 PM

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Blizzard going back on their statements has never resulted in more content. As much as I dearly wish we were getting more allied race customization, since they sorely need it, its almost certainly not happening.

thick saddle Nov 26, 2019, 9:49 PM

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In your opinion.

uncut vault Nov 26, 2019, 9:49 PM

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In Blizzard's opinion.

thick saddle Nov 26, 2019, 9:50 PM

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I expressed a desire for DK Allied Races to have access to the same customizations as Core Races. Nothing more. Yet you seem adament to prove "your point", just to be a dick about it.

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Show me one source that says DK Allied Races won't get the same things that DK Core Races already has, and I'll back off this argument.

uncut vault Nov 26, 2019, 9:51 PM

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I never said that stuff like that isnt happening, or cited a source for that. The conversation was not solely about that. My first response was to jhock

thick saddle Nov 26, 2019, 9:52 PM

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Blizzard saying, "We're not touching allied races"while simultaneously giving Allied Races access to DK class, is fairly contradictory.

tropic trail Nov 26, 2019, 9:52 PM

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it is not

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AR DK are a 8.,3 thing

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new customizations are coming with the new xpac

thick saddle Nov 26, 2019, 9:53 PM

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Both require the prepurchasing of Shadowlands, regardless of when you get access to it

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And it is contradictory to say "We're not touching Allied Races" who might have 5 classes now, but simultaneously giving them a 6th class.

distant folio Nov 26, 2019, 9:54 PM

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I mean you're leaving the context out here

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"We're not touching allied races" was in regards to the customization that they are giving to all races. Allied races are not getting additional customization like the main races.

thick saddle Nov 26, 2019, 9:55 PM

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Cba to care at this point.

I just stated an opinion on something I'd like to see added, and Porter went off on his dickish rant about why that won't happen

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It's not unreasonable to expect, that DK Allied Races would have the same customization access they have with Core Races (such as darker skin tones). Has nothing to do with "expanding" Allied Race customizations.

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An expansion of Allied Race customizations, would be allowing DK Dark Iron Dwarves to have Blue firey hair/facial hair, in addition to the red firey hair/facial hair

tropic trail Nov 26, 2019, 10:01 PM

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But if they would add the same customization options from the Core races (if you are talking about the new ones that are going to be added in shadowlands) for the AR DKs, why would they not do the same for normal AR including all classes?

thick saddle Nov 26, 2019, 10:03 PM

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Que?!?

Normal Allied Races, don't have "DK only" customizations (darker skin tones, extra faces)

DK only customizations should follow, regardless of if it's a Core Race or Allied Race.

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If a Dwarf DK has a grey skin tone option, then a Dark Iron Dwarf DK should have access to the same grey skin tone.

Makes sense doesn't it?

tropic trail Nov 26, 2019, 10:05 PM

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so you are talking about the extra customizations that Dks usually have, in the same way as the Core Races for the AR dks?

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Because Im sure they will get those with 8.3

thick saddle Nov 26, 2019, 10:05 PM

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DK + Allied Races on the PTR, don't currently have the "DK Only" custom features

tropic trail Nov 26, 2019, 10:06 PM

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oh ok. Well I dont know then

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what I know is that the ARs dont getting new customization options as the core races will with shadowlands

thick saddle Nov 26, 2019, 10:07 PM

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The darker skin tones for DK, are a result of having... died... and been resurrected (not unlike a certain Undead type race). Doesn't make much sense why a Pandaren DK wouldn't have access to the darker skin tone options for example.

tropic trail Nov 26, 2019, 10:07 PM

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And I think adding new customizations options for AR Dks just in shadowlands would be kinda weird, so I thought they will come with 8.3

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maybe it will be added with later builds, idk

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btw

thick saddle Nov 26, 2019, 10:08 PM

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I never said anything about adding more stuff for Allied Race DKs in Shadowlands. I was well aware AR DKs are being added in 8.3. I was suggesting they should have the same custom features that regular Core Race DKs have.

tropic trail Nov 26, 2019, 10:08 PM

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how can a Panda have a darker skin tone?

thick saddle Nov 26, 2019, 10:09 PM

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Maybe Pandaren was a bad example, but the point remains... An AR DK should have certain features, that a regular AR... doesn't.

Just like regular DKs have certain features that the other classes for Core Races don't.

tropic trail Nov 26, 2019, 10:09 PM

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Sure, they should

tranquil steeple Nov 26, 2019, 10:10 PM

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with 8.3 set to go live soon after new year aka in January, I feel like they're just currently focusing on catching any potential bugs with ARs being able to become DKs, and later on adding the DK-only customization

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or, at the very least, that's what I HOPE is the case

thick saddle Nov 26, 2019, 10:11 PM

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Considering they've already made multiple changes to the Corrupted gear stuff, adding the DK-only features is fairly minor and simple to implement.

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8.3 is likely out in Mid-January (after the current event is over). With holidays coming soon, I expect another 3-4 weeks before they take a break. Plenty of time.

dense plover Nov 26, 2019, 10:30 PM

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AR Dks definitely should have new skin colors, new faces, different hair styles/colors

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thats probably about it

ionic terrace Nov 26, 2019, 10:36 PM

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Kelsey finally has unique onclicks

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about time lol

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lol

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dense plover Nov 26, 2019, 10:44 PM

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i dont get it

tranquil steeple Nov 26, 2019, 10:45 PM

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seems like a joke about how Mechagnomes have a jack of all (profession)trades racial

ionic terrace Nov 26, 2019, 10:45 PM

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It's a reference to the movie The 5th Element

tranquil steeple Nov 26, 2019, 10:45 PM

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or that

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that is probably way more likely

ionic terrace Nov 26, 2019, 10:47 PM

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Huh, I think mechagnomes are the only race that doesn't start with all their racials

dense plover Nov 26, 2019, 10:47 PM

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they dont?

ionic terrace Nov 26, 2019, 10:48 PM

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nope

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they learn the two actives at 24

dense plover Nov 26, 2019, 10:48 PM

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huh

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wonder why

ionic terrace Nov 26, 2019, 10:48 PM

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I feel like it's a bug but it's been like this

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dense plover Nov 26, 2019, 10:49 PM

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maybe they dont want them being used in the starter zone?

ionic terrace Nov 26, 2019, 10:49 PM

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Idk why, other then maybe the clones

midnight saddle Nov 26, 2019, 11:39 PM

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Technically worgen don’t either darkflight

dense plover Nov 26, 2019, 11:40 PM

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?

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oh

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yeah but like

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they also dont start as worgen

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mechagnomes dont return to mechagon city to get their things

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this is specifically level unlocked

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worgen's thing is quest locked

plain vigil Nov 27, 2019, 12:22 AM

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It's 100% a 5th element reference

📎 image0.jpg

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That's Lelu with her multipass

limber mural Nov 27, 2019, 7:24 AM

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'multipass' is one of the more iconic lines of 5th element

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there's no way it isn't

dull flame Nov 27, 2019, 4:34 PM

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so

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8.3. next year ?

tropic trail Nov 27, 2019, 4:35 PM

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yes

round lake Nov 27, 2019, 4:36 PM

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Theyve basically all but confirmed a date for next year

sonic urchin Nov 27, 2019, 5:09 PM

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Pretty sure they did confirm early next year, so like January probably

mighty wolf Nov 27, 2019, 5:28 PM

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maybe on 15th or 22nd january

deep pawn Nov 27, 2019, 5:32 PM

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It better be the 7th right after the anniversary event ends

strange falcon Nov 27, 2019, 5:35 PM

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best business decision would be 7th

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which would explain why this anniversary event lasts a month

normal mango Nov 27, 2019, 5:39 PM

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7th for release, 21st for raid? 😄

round lake Nov 27, 2019, 5:39 PM

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Like I said all but confirmed the date lol

strange falcon Nov 27, 2019, 5:40 PM

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badly edited profile pic tho

zealous basalt Nov 27, 2019, 5:43 PM

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Rekt

round lake Nov 27, 2019, 6:55 PM

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?

ionic terrace Nov 27, 2019, 8:17 PM

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Vendor build went out so there's a chance

runic verge Nov 27, 2019, 8:56 PM

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how many horrific cores do you get per week in the PTR?

dense plover Nov 27, 2019, 9:33 PM

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One-Two

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Depends on how far you get

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Once you get your cloak to a certain point you have to go further in

round lake Nov 27, 2019, 9:34 PM

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Leaked image of jailer

tranquil steeple Nov 27, 2019, 9:35 PM

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ok keep it in #beta-shadowlands if you're gonna post it

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even though it's already posted there

dense plover Nov 27, 2019, 9:36 PM

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I’m surprised there’s an image at all

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What happened to surprise

obtuse vine Nov 27, 2019, 9:39 PM

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Well someone took a picture at the blizzard HQ at blizzcon, and it got posted on Twitter but removed very quickly, some people got hold onto it, but couldn’t resist keeping it to themselves, which is understandable

runic verge Nov 27, 2019, 9:49 PM

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yeah unfortunately I saw it on some discord. I wanted to keep the surprise

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mrpeach774Today at 6:33 PM
One-Two
Depends on how far you get
Once you get your cloak to a certain point you have to go further in
is it reasonable to expect 9 cores in a month if you're a good player? or is that just not possible because of gating etc?

ionic terrace Nov 27, 2019, 10:10 PM

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Oh cool

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limber mural Nov 27, 2019, 10:13 PM

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missing some 'the's but sure

dense plover Nov 27, 2019, 10:14 PM

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Probably not likely unless you are doing all of the vision content every day and have a group of 5 for horrific visions

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5 including you

ionic terrace Nov 27, 2019, 10:15 PM

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is this new?

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dense plover Nov 27, 2019, 10:16 PM

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Yes

ionic terrace Nov 27, 2019, 10:16 PM

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sells nazjatar rank 2/3 for marks of honor

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also heartztauren is still here

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just to confirm 😛

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lol

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huh did the warrior talent Defensive Stance always give you a shield?

zealous basalt Nov 27, 2019, 10:18 PM

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Ye

ionic terrace Nov 27, 2019, 10:19 PM

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shows how much I use it

neat idol Nov 27, 2019, 11:22 PM

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Does anyone how The Formless Void will work? I dont really understand the use of it

azure estuary Nov 28, 2019, 3:51 AM

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So seems like Bellular is aspiring to become Pyromancer 2.0 lol

novel zodiac Nov 28, 2019, 3:59 AM

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who's Pyromancer?

calm garden Nov 28, 2019, 6:26 AM

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i love how the horde alliance make peace and tremblade is just like go kill the horde in the vale lmfao

smoky mural Nov 28, 2019, 6:47 AM

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@novel zodiac alex jones of wow

hasty tendon Nov 28, 2019, 10:04 AM

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If you're talking about the Major Power, @neat idol , it's supposed to copy the Major Power of another player and then put the Formless Void on a cooldown that's longer than whatever it copied.

Its primary purpose seems to be using Essence Powers your own spec wouldn't usually be able to, like Aegis of the Deep as a Healer or Focused Azerite Beam as a Tank.

neat idol Nov 28, 2019, 10:06 AM

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That makes sense, ty!

uncut vault Nov 28, 2019, 11:05 PM

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this will be quite fun to transmog on live lol

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night swift Nov 28, 2019, 11:06 PM

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Lol can’t wait for all the thunderfurys

cyan prairie Nov 28, 2019, 11:08 PM

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i can't wait to mog 2 Thunderfuries on my Fury Warr

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oh, wait...

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Blizz lower mog restrictions plz

night swift Nov 28, 2019, 11:08 PM

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DK

jade basalt Nov 29, 2019, 2:20 PM

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Eh, we're already running around with Ashbringers and Doomhammers, Legendaries were only a matter of time!

ionic terrace Nov 29, 2019, 6:12 PM

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I assume Blizzard is off today?

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and that I should just wait until next week?

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FeelsBadMan

unborn glacier Nov 29, 2019, 7:17 PM

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@calm garden Not peace. Armistice.

ancient jasper Nov 29, 2019, 9:58 PM

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Yea I figured we'd miss a PTR update this week because of Thanksgiving.

lean yew Nov 30, 2019, 8:39 AM

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id expect 2 more before the next set of holidays tbh

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MAYBE one the week before xmas but unlikely

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and then the patch itself the 7th or 14th, depends if we see a release build before xmas or not

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I'd anticipate they tell us in december when it launches, but who knows

novel zodiac Nov 30, 2019, 1:53 PM

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i really hope that they release it in december

dense plover Nov 30, 2019, 1:53 PM

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The patch is coming in January

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They literally already said so

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There was a bluepost

novel zodiac Nov 30, 2019, 1:55 PM

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i know

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but one can just dream

dense plover Nov 30, 2019, 4:33 PM

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No

strange falcon Nov 30, 2019, 4:53 PM

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savage peach

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"NO"

plain vigil Nov 30, 2019, 6:11 PM

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Lmfao

zealous basalt Nov 30, 2019, 6:13 PM

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Peach is that strict parenr

plain vigil Nov 30, 2019, 6:19 PM

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Peach is the parent that brings a vegan, sugar free Vegetable cake instead of a normal desert

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Ily peach

zealous basalt Nov 30, 2019, 6:22 PM

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That's evil

plain vigil Nov 30, 2019, 6:22 PM

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Lmao

dense plover Nov 30, 2019, 7:00 PM

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no i wouldnt

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i would just bring brownies

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everyone likes brownies

normal niche Nov 30, 2019, 7:34 PM

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What if

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Mr.Peach was a raid boss?

zealous basalt Nov 30, 2019, 7:56 PM

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He would be breaking everyone dreams

dense plover Nov 30, 2019, 8:12 PM

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nah

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i would fill the room with fire

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and then force you to fill out an accurate bug report

tropic trail Nov 30, 2019, 8:12 PM

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STOP STANDIN' IN CARP

dense plover Nov 30, 2019, 8:12 PM

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and if you ignore the bug report, you die

novel zodiac Nov 30, 2019, 8:25 PM

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ok boomer

swift gust Nov 30, 2019, 8:39 PM

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ok zoomer

tropic trail Nov 30, 2019, 8:40 PM

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Look at these average boomers, trying to be funny saying it dismissively

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You have to mean it!

normal niche Nov 30, 2019, 8:40 PM

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Literally every wow player is a boomer

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prove me wrong

dense plover Nov 30, 2019, 8:41 PM

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well, a boomer is supposed to be someone from the baby boomer generation

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most of that gen doesnt even touch video games

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most barely understand computers

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you literally just used it wrong @novel zodiac

swift gust Nov 30, 2019, 8:43 PM

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you have a point

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@normal niche

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everyone is either old or obvlivious to todays trends

tropic trail Nov 30, 2019, 8:43 PM

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See, this is why I called 'em average boomers

dense plover Nov 30, 2019, 8:43 PM

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this is 100% getting more offtopic

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#no-wow-discussion

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yes I know theres nothing going on in here

swift gust Nov 30, 2019, 8:44 PM

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theres no off topic section though lmao

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oh there is

dense plover Nov 30, 2019, 8:44 PM

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there literally is

swift gust Nov 30, 2019, 8:44 PM

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didnt see it oops

zealous basalt Nov 30, 2019, 8:44 PM

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OK boomer

dense plover Nov 30, 2019, 8:44 PM

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🤦

swift gust Nov 30, 2019, 8:44 PM

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excuse my dumb australian brain

novel zodiac Nov 30, 2019, 9:02 PM

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i didn't know that you can't meme unless you meme the right way

tropic trail Nov 30, 2019, 9:03 PM

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It's a delicate art

swift gust Nov 30, 2019, 9:17 PM

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meme isnt an art lyo

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its a lifestyle

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and you cxant just "meme"

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the meme has to choose you

zealous basalt Nov 30, 2019, 9:36 PM

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To use a meme you have to become the meme

tropic trail Nov 30, 2019, 9:38 PM

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||KONO LYO DA||

zealous basalt Nov 30, 2019, 9:43 PM

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And of course

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Not force it

sullen dawn Nov 30, 2019, 10:45 PM

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This is the way

plain vigil Dec 1, 2019, 4:58 AM

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📎 image0.gif

storm marsh Dec 1, 2019, 12:21 PM

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I had a dream last night. AR dks were available

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hopefully we'll get a new build this week

novel zodiac Dec 1, 2019, 1:32 PM

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Apparently, you can't have dreams here

zealous basalt Dec 1, 2019, 1:42 PM

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Only yours, rest are welcomed

novel zodiac Dec 1, 2019, 1:50 PM

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Oof

storm marsh Dec 1, 2019, 2:00 PM

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sad

strange falcon Dec 1, 2019, 3:17 PM

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to have a dream,you must first watch part 5 of jojo's,

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right @zealous basalt ?

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@limber mural

limber mural Dec 1, 2019, 3:18 PM

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kono anduin wrynn ni ha

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yuma ga aru

novel zodiac Dec 1, 2019, 3:21 PM

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i don't watch shit

zealous basalt Dec 1, 2019, 3:25 PM

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...

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And they ask why they can't have dreams here

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boi

hollow vortex Dec 1, 2019, 6:24 PM

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looks like a boomer got mad in here

pulsar iris Dec 1, 2019, 7:00 PM

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@strange falcon actually you have to be named giorno giovanna

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he is the only one who has a dream

tropic trail Dec 1, 2019, 7:00 PM

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Josuke has hair

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Jotaro has a hat

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All JoJos have something

pulsar iris Dec 1, 2019, 7:01 PM

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joseph has a plan

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jonathan has honor

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is jonathan saurfang?

zealous basalt Dec 1, 2019, 7:01 PM

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Joseph has marital issues

tropic trail Dec 1, 2019, 7:01 PM

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Joseph has lost his ability to predict what you wanna say

pulsar iris Dec 1, 2019, 7:01 PM

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thats what happens when you get old

zealous basalt Dec 1, 2019, 7:01 PM

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guys

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offtopic

tropic trail Dec 1, 2019, 7:02 PM

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No. Nobody answered

mighty wolf Dec 2, 2019, 5:32 PM

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still no new datamines?

dense plover Dec 2, 2019, 5:38 PM

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No new builds

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Maybe tomorrow or Wednesday

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It was thanksgiving last week

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Blizzard was closed

ancient jasper Dec 2, 2019, 10:24 PM

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If they get 1-2 weeks off for Christmas that's only 2 more weeks of work on the patch before it releases on January 7th.. (If it releases then.)

dense plover Dec 2, 2019, 10:24 PM

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They don’t

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They probably get the 24th-1st off

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It’s the US, not EU

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So we probably have 3-4 more builds

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Maybe more if we get multiple in a single week

red raft Dec 2, 2019, 11:29 PM

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I'd assume or at least hope they would do the biggest rush of build/s during the week leading up to their break so the lump sum of things they want tested in full is all reported for when they have their final stretch in the new year.

tribal sand Dec 3, 2019, 6:05 PM

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so socket procs are still a thing or just a bug?

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novel zodiac Dec 3, 2019, 6:49 PM

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it should be a bug

dense plover Dec 3, 2019, 7:23 PM

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^

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dont think corruption items can get sockets

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or it might not be

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since you can now buy sockets for items that dont have them

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would definitely need to test more

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would definitely need to test more

ionic terrace Dec 3, 2019, 7:46 PM

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would definitely need to test more

dense plover Dec 3, 2019, 7:54 PM

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i mean, other random procs are still in

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sockets would make sense

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again, you can buy them and add them to items so its not something you have to grind through running for that specific piece of gear again

ionic terrace Dec 3, 2019, 9:36 PM

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@dense plover shutdown inc

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lettuce pray for AR Dk

dense plover Dec 3, 2019, 9:43 PM

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SICK

zealous basalt Dec 3, 2019, 9:50 PM

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That's horrible peach

ionic terrace Dec 3, 2019, 10:44 PM

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build is out

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1.17 GB

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now the wait for servers

normal niche Dec 3, 2019, 10:50 PM

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the 7.3 build?

ionic terrace Dec 3, 2019, 10:51 PM

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If you mean 8.3 yes

craggy nexus Dec 3, 2019, 10:54 PM

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New PTR build.

dense plover Dec 3, 2019, 11:14 PM

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music

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its in this build

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probably a horrific or lesser vision

📎 VisionsMusic.mp3

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think this might be mop

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📎 MoPVisions1.mp3

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📎 OgrimmarHorrificVision1.mp3

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here you go

tropic trail Dec 3, 2019, 11:25 PM

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any raid music?

dense plover Dec 3, 2019, 11:28 PM

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probably?

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looking through

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music isnt labeled so im only sure about the more obvious stuff so far

ancient jasper Dec 3, 2019, 11:30 PM

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No Allied Race DK

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Sadface

dense plover Dec 3, 2019, 11:31 PM

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📎 WrathionHeartChamberTheme.mp3

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uh

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we dont know that

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servers arent up

ionic terrace Dec 3, 2019, 11:32 PM

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yes they are

ancient jasper Dec 3, 2019, 11:32 PM

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Yes, they are.

ionic terrace Dec 3, 2019, 11:32 PM

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it's true

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FeelsBadMan

ancient jasper Dec 3, 2019, 11:33 PM

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No DK skin tones for the Panda/Allied Races yet either

dense plover Dec 3, 2019, 11:35 PM

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📎 CorruptedStormwind.mp3

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📎 CorruptedStormwind2.mp3

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i love these

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so much

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📎 LesserVisionUldum.mp3

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these are what I was literally waiting for

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corrupted versions of the themes

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📎 NewMechagonTheme.mp3

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less intimidating than the dungeon themes

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and has a bit of the gnome theme influence

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📎 MechagonNewWalk2.mp3

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📎 MechagonNewWalk1.mp3

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1 is my favorite

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📎 Nyalotha1.mp3

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@tropic trail

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im like 100% sure

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this is definitely raid music

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📎 VulperaTheme1.mp3

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i love this

limber mural Dec 3, 2019, 11:42 PM

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why is the main thing standing out to me in that first one 'slightly overtuned bassoon'

ionic terrace Dec 3, 2019, 11:44 PM

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dense plover Dec 3, 2019, 11:46 PM

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ah, so it is stuff you learn

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cool

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@limber mural because blizz loves the bassoon

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fucking cataclysm man

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almost everything was bassoon

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its a dark instrument for dark themes

limber mural Dec 3, 2019, 11:47 PM

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i learned bassoon for about 2 months

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was notably unfun

dense plover Dec 3, 2019, 11:47 PM

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super hard to play

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and weighs 40lbs

limber mural Dec 3, 2019, 11:48 PM

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the only instrument that requires use of all 10 fingers independently

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and no, not even piano does that

dense plover Dec 3, 2019, 11:48 PM

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finally

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the world bosses are actual WQs now

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limber mural Dec 3, 2019, 11:48 PM

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and yeah weighs a fucking ton

tropic trail Dec 3, 2019, 11:49 PM

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the nyalotha music is 👌

dense plover Dec 3, 2019, 11:50 PM

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new structures in uldum during assault

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also they fixed the big platforms being buggy af

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visions have names now

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uldum is twisting sands

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and horrific visions have specific chest names for loot too

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reps have descriptions now

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thats new

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ionic terrace Dec 3, 2019, 11:56 PM

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ew

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 12:02 AM

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and they finally added the daily lock to lesser visions

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think the music MIGHT be bugged

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uldum outdoors sounds like ogrimmar

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like the corrupted oggrimmar

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@ionic terrace

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thats where the buff comes from

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if you fly lower to the ground you get no problems

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also raid portal is creepy now

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range on seeing the phased world seems increased even if mobs arent

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example

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corrupted mobs have a new visual

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they now have an aura

limber mural Dec 4, 2019, 12:09 AM

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burbling, huh

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'yo Steve how do we describe these things in a way we haven't done already'

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 12:10 AM

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awww

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debuff was nerfed

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now its too small

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unless corrupted mobs are more common

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which they dont seem to be

lean yew Dec 4, 2019, 12:20 AM

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VULPERA GANG

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LETS FIND THE TRICKS

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 12:36 AM

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corruption on items is now purple, not red

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extra bag space racial is official

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nishas with the vulpera now

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plain vigil Dec 4, 2019, 12:51 AM

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So basically Vulpera are the Ultimate mat farmers @dense plover

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 12:52 AM

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no?

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8 extra bag spaces is not exactly significant

uncut vault Dec 4, 2019, 12:52 AM

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the old one was much better for that

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because it actually gave bags of mats

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this is just a nice little bonus

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 12:53 AM

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^

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the old one was way too powerful

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it literally made them the best farmers

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this one is just a nice bonus as porter said

lean yew Dec 4, 2019, 1:05 AM

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it was cata mats

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not particularly amazing imo lol

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i tried finding some tricks but I didnt see any cause idk what im looking for lmao

normal niche Dec 4, 2019, 1:15 AM

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Can't wait to see use their vulpera characters as alts literally meant to farm

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 1:23 AM

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i mean, theres no real advantage there

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they got rid of the extra mats thing

normal niche Dec 4, 2019, 1:23 AM

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oh

modest temple Dec 4, 2019, 1:56 AM

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I noticed the spells for the Vulpera poison vial and healing vial have some flavor text on them. I think that's a good way of determining what other Tricks they might collect. Just gotta dig and watch for any other 8.3 spells that have similar text.

lean yew Dec 4, 2019, 2:13 AM

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yeah but im not sure of a way to search flavor text.

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but im curious if theyre all vials, I don't think they are

plain vigil Dec 4, 2019, 2:58 AM

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@dense plover each AR has a niche. For example, dark irons are the Ideal tmog farmer because they have run speed in dungeons and a bunch of instance tp's. The reason Vulpera are good Matt farmers isn't just the extra bag space, but also the custom hearth locations.

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 3:02 AM

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Sure, I’m just saying they aren’t getting bonus mats anymore

lean yew Dec 4, 2019, 3:13 AM

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it was still cata mats tho

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did anyone actually want cata mats?

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lol

storm marsh Dec 4, 2019, 3:14 AM

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Heyo, anything interesting in this build? I'll check out the music later. I'd test the ptr myself now but its 4 am. No AR DKs yet?

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 3:14 AM

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No

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They’re clearly holding off on purpose

storm marsh Dec 4, 2019, 3:15 AM

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Oh well. 1 month til release I guess

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1 month and few more days

plain vigil Dec 4, 2019, 4:10 AM

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Actually @lean yew Cata mats may be more valuable in 9.0 for quest gear

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 4:11 AM

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I mean, probably not...

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Considering anyone doing cata content probably has heirlooms

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And considering that time from 10-50 with heirlooms will probably be pretty fast

lean yew Dec 4, 2019, 4:12 AM

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well

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Idk where in the world to find any vulpera tricks.

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or if they're implemented. lol

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 4:12 AM

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Nobody does, and yes they might not be implemented yet

lean yew Dec 4, 2019, 4:12 AM

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My first instinct is vol'dun

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but they could be anywhere

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 4:13 AM

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Probably all deserts at least

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So voldun, tanaris, uldum

lean yew Dec 4, 2019, 4:13 AM

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I presume the secret discord will be all over it

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 4:13 AM

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Maybe some places where scavenging in effective?

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IE - mechagon, gnomeregan, ulduar

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It’s probably 1 zone per expac or a zone per continent

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The real question is how they expect us to learn

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Hopefully they’ll add hints

lean yew Dec 4, 2019, 4:14 AM

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Yeah I think atm it's just not fully implemented

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I haven't seen anything else w/ any flavor text

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and ive been watching the misc spells/abilities for quite a few builds now

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im combing the desert atm

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its k

thick saddle Dec 4, 2019, 4:23 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/spaceballs-we-aint-found-shit-found-lost-nothing-gif-4885974

Tenor

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Combing the desert, ey? 🙂

lean yew Dec 4, 2019, 4:25 AM

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me right now

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dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 4:28 AM

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Hmmm, snakes?

lean yew Dec 4, 2019, 4:28 AM

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maybe? lol

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a bag of snakes

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 4:28 AM

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Uldum or voldun

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Voldun because sethrakk

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Uldum because of Indiana Jones references

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And uldum has gotten a ton of changes with BfA 8,3 so they could’ve easily snuck a thing in

lean yew Dec 4, 2019, 4:31 AM

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true

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it would make sense that other tricks are in vol'dun, uldum and pandaria

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its hard for me to search that much when I don't see anything new really implemented. lol

tropic trail Dec 4, 2019, 9:38 AM

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Guys i got a corruption trinket in a WQ, with the Effect of the Agi Dagger as a fury (Tooltip is German sorry)

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dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 12:29 PM

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That seems maybe bugged? Hard to tell

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I would report it

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Just in case

winged vale Dec 4, 2019, 2:39 PM

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The article says that Void Ritual hasn't been seen on anything yet, just tested and it rolled on some gloves for me

📎 WoWScrnShot_120419_055420.jpg

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 2:40 PM

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Gloves seem to be rolling weapon affixes

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So

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....

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Probably bugged

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Again

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Gloves were rolling double corruption last build

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So seems they fixed one thing and broke another

harsh wedge Dec 4, 2019, 2:47 PM

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Any item is rolling weapon affixes now

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same thing ahppened on the trinket earlier (in german)

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 2:48 PM

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Yeah that’s probably not intended

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It’s probably a result of the multiple levels of weapon affix

harsh wedge Dec 4, 2019, 2:49 PM

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I guess it isn't, otherwise you could get a nice upgrade in the chest, but with a +75 corruption on it

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Insta purified

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 2:49 PM

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I’m honestly not sure that the multiple weapon levels is a good idea

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It already is difficult getting a good weapon

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Getting a good weapon with corruption you can handle is even harder

harsh wedge Dec 4, 2019, 2:51 PM

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https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/blog/images/17969-corrupted-weapon-effects-have-multiple-tiers-and-can-roll-from-mythic-cache.png

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from the wowhead article

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 2:52 PM

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Yeah it doesn’t seem intentional

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Probably a bug due to a hanger in the system

harsh wedge Dec 4, 2019, 2:54 PM

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Adding it as a random proc on every item seems like it would break the purpose of the special weapons

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Especially as it can atm proc on things like geti'kku, so a weapon with double proc

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 2:56 PM

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Change not hanger

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Yeah it’s a bug then

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Report that shit

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Be detailed on where it came from

tribal sand Dec 4, 2019, 4:04 PM

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holy they changed the lesser vision really much

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no more stacking sanity reg buff from helping npcs; just flat 40 sanity everytime u help

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u can see other players now

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war mode talents are usable

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no respawning npcs

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i guess the endless grind of lesser visions is gone now

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 4:14 PM

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You can see other players?

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That doesn’t sound right

tribal sand Dec 4, 2019, 4:14 PM

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yes i saw 2 people in there

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 4:14 PM

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It’s supposed to be solo or small group content

tribal sand Dec 4, 2019, 4:15 PM

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1 shaman with an earth elemental and a druid flying over me and waved 😄

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i guess war mode talents shouldn t be allowed there too

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 4:30 PM

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Might be broken phasing

tribal sand Dec 4, 2019, 4:53 PM

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no more mainstat proc so far

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dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 5:01 PM

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That’s expected

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It was busted and meant grinding the visions was necessary for raiding

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Which tbh is actually pretty difficult

tribal sand Dec 4, 2019, 5:03 PM

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i don t think the visions are that hard to be honest

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ok with the change of the sanitydrain stopping food its really hard to play the vision now
rank 10 cloak and only 2 events doable is a massive bummer without using a mask

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 5:20 PM

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The minor ones aren’t

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But I guess having it have other people makes some sense for mini bosses and such

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The major ones you definitely need a group of you want to go further

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The real problem I see currently is that you can only run a major vision once, maybe twice a week

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And they’re really the only way to get enough cloak skills

tribal sand Dec 4, 2019, 5:21 PM

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yeah that sux; they said they wanted it to be comparable if u play it solo

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 5:21 PM

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So getting that higher is going to be several weeks of the same few bosses before you can finally push to the next area in a horrific vision

tribal sand Dec 4, 2019, 5:21 PM

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i think they changed it so u only get the cloak upgrade from the first vision of the week

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 5:21 PM

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Pretty sure you just stop getting minor ones after level 10

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And major only come from side bosses

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Which at lvl 10 are honestly pretty difficult

tribal sand Dec 4, 2019, 5:22 PM

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which side bosses u mean? the 4 events inside the horrific vision?

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 5:22 PM

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I think they need to add more coalescing vision drops or increase the current ones

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Yes the 4 other bosses

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That’s where the lvl 2 page comes from

tribal sand Dec 4, 2019, 5:23 PM

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u need 3 lvl 2 pages for the upgrade from 10 to 11, so no changes there

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 5:23 PM

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Yeah it’s really hard

tribal sand Dec 4, 2019, 5:23 PM

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i could finish all 4 side bosses and thrall with a lvl 5 cloak

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 5:24 PM

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There’s honestly a massive jump in difficulty

tribal sand Dec 4, 2019, 5:24 PM

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was not a problem

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 5:24 PM

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Are you with a full group?

tribal sand Dec 4, 2019, 5:24 PM

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no solo

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 5:24 PM

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Bullshit

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I call bullshit

tribal sand Dec 4, 2019, 5:24 PM

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i did

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 5:24 PM

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Did you use the no sanity drain food?

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There’s no way you can do that with normal sanity drain

tribal sand Dec 4, 2019, 5:25 PM

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yeah i used the food

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thats why i miss the food already

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 5:25 PM

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Ah ok

tribal sand Dec 4, 2019, 5:25 PM

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did one few minutes ago and could only finish 2 events and thrall

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 5:25 PM

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Yeah that’s pretty much the only way to do all of it

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And honestly the fact you can only run once or twice a week

tribal sand Dec 4, 2019, 5:26 PM

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yeah that food is gone now 😄

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 5:26 PM

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That part really sucks

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I thought they just redid the food

tribal sand Dec 4, 2019, 5:26 PM

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yeah to make it useless 😄

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effect stops if u click to open the way further inside the vision

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tranquil steeple Dec 4, 2019, 5:28 PM

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prolly could've just made it halven sanity drain for 2-3 min instead

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as a way to increase your chances of getting to a sanity regen area

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 5:29 PM

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^

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They’re still changing lots of smaller things

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They redid the corrupted enemies

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They’re extremely weak now

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Like, the debuff I mean

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And they added those stupid fucking works

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Worms

tribal sand Dec 4, 2019, 5:30 PM

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cause u have no chance of getting sanity back without killing a elite, using a ball or the K'bab (there are no regen areas, as far as i know) the halfen sanity food ould be not very useful

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as a melee i need to say i liked the worms 😄

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 5:30 PM

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There are a few

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But it’s usually insignificant

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It honestly feels like they’ve been ignoring all feedback for major visions

tranquil steeple Dec 4, 2019, 5:31 PM

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the orbs was what I meant when I mentioned sanity regen

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 5:31 PM

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There’s going to end up being a ton of hotfixes on launch because SO many people are going to complain about the cloak and how it’s impossible to level it up in any reasonable amount of time

tranquil steeple Dec 4, 2019, 5:32 PM

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and again, my suggestion was purely to roughly keep the original function without making it OP/mandatory

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 5:32 PM

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Not to mention their unwillingness to put assault world quests on the fucking zone map

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I fucking hate how they’re only on the minimal

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Minimap

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It’s fucking stupid

tribal sand Dec 4, 2019, 5:32 PM

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not only that; its no fun playing the vision for 5 weeks only getting the endboss or 1 event down in there

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 5:33 PM

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Yep

tribal sand Dec 4, 2019, 5:33 PM

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yeah i guess this events should be the mentioned WQ 2.0 for shadowlands

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 5:33 PM

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I’ve reported it multiple times

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Forums are filled with it

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Nah it’s because they just don’t want them on the map

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They’re literally tagged as WQ

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They just give you no info

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And shitty rewards

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50 rep and 1-2 coalescing visions and 40 gold

tribal sand Dec 4, 2019, 5:33 PM

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i only got ap from them; are there other rewards?

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 5:34 PM

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They’re fucking awful

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Not really

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People will do them because they fill the bar and grant rep for the ridiculous double faction rep grind

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There’s so much grind in 8.3

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And none of it feels good

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Because all of the feedback is gone

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Cool I got coalescing visions, what can I do with them? Fucking nothing because you need so many

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Oooo, AP, oh wait, it’s less than 1% of what I need

tribal sand Dec 4, 2019, 5:35 PM

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there were much grind; right now i think u only have to grind the rep everything else is very much time gated

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 5:35 PM

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Oh man, 50 rep, I only need 50k more

tribal sand Dec 4, 2019, 5:35 PM

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500 more rep and i got my first faction to 12k 😄

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 5:35 PM

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Oh, tokens for my cloak, sick they gave me 100, I only need to run this major vision 7 more times to buy a single talent

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Oh, and I can’t run it because you don’t give me enough visions? Hooray

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/s

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It’s such an unnecessary bloated grind that could be fixed by making the actual content harder instead of making it resource locked

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Like all of this has the exact same issue and it all hinges on not getting enough coalescing visions

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Like, Max I think you can run 3 per week if you really grind, maybe 4

tribal sand Dec 4, 2019, 5:37 PM

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i think they should cap the cloak on like 2 items per week for upgrades; 1 from first vision and 1 from nzoth killing
make it the u could go in the horrifics maybe 5 times a week
so no need to grind them but u could do it for the fun

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 5:37 PM

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Meanwhile M+ is something people are able to run unlimited amounts of

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And they do it for the rewards

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But the fucking horrific visions barely give rewards

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They only give gear once

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And the returns on running multiple a week are anti exponential (whatever that word is)

tribal sand Dec 4, 2019, 5:40 PM

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was so smooth and much fun yesterday
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/516666750?t=00h07m56s
starting at minute 8

Twitch

8.3 PTR Searching the masks inside the Vision

Slxg_sandor - World of Warcraft - Twitch

▶ Play video

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with this build they killed the fun for me tbh

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 5:41 PM

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I bet that they change the amount of coalescing essences needed for the event to 500 or less within 3 weeks of launch

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That’s how shitty this design is

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It so obviously needs to be changed

tribal sand Dec 4, 2019, 5:42 PM

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yeah or else u have not much to do in 8.3
except u play much twinks

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 5:42 PM

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I can’t believe none of the fucking clickbait wow people have talked about t

ionic terrace Dec 4, 2019, 5:42 PM

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it

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 5:42 PM

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You’ll have a bunch to play for the first week or so

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And then the grind will hit you like a truck

ionic terrace Dec 4, 2019, 5:42 PM

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it's a major patch feature too, which is yikes

tribal sand Dec 4, 2019, 5:42 PM

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yeah only preach was touching the ptr a bit; but no one else really said anything about it

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 5:42 PM

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Yeah

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It’s gonna be nerfed so fast

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Like if it isn’t changed in a build or two

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Which is still definitely possible

tribal sand Dec 4, 2019, 5:43 PM

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true

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 5:45 PM

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They better nerf or remove those works too

tribal sand Dec 4, 2019, 5:45 PM

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i'm out for today, raid night; cya

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 5:45 PM

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A 3 min massively stacking movement speed debuff is the opposite of fun

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It just makes me want to stop playing

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o/

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It should either be a shorter duration or much shorter range

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The worms range is way too big

vivid harness Dec 4, 2019, 6:14 PM

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new build or?

ionic terrace Dec 4, 2019, 6:16 PM

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Yeah last night

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 6:26 PM

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Yeah it legit made a bunch of things worse and didn’t fix some of the more egregious balance issues

novel zodiac Dec 4, 2019, 7:43 PM

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that doesn't sound good

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they never learn...

dense plover Dec 4, 2019, 8:42 PM

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They do learn

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Remember, Ptr is two builds behind essentially

novel zodiac Dec 4, 2019, 9:05 PM

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so the things they show in the current build might be changed already?

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wow

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how do they get feedback if they're that ahead of?