WHAT
#beta-ptr-spoilers
uncut vault
gotta love artificial scarcity
night swift
Thats fucking stupid
dense plover
i just want a big long boi
it IS fucking stupid
its 5 million gold
theres no reason to remove it
unless they plan to sell it on the store or some other bullshit
night swift
Oh they’re gonna
dense plover
have they even ever done that before for an ingame gold mount?
night swift
I can see it
ionic terrace
it'll be bmah
uncut vault
theyre adding it to the BMAH, where it will go for even more gold
night swift
God that’s ridiculous
dark furnace
They might do another ah mount in Shadowlands
dark furnace
It would be weird to let some people have a walking ah that is not obtainable
night swift
I just wish long bois were tameable for hunters
zealous basalt
"fuck you poor people, look at this shite"
tranquil steeple
literal middle finger to those who didn't have 12+ chars playing the AH when you could make lots of gold
and screwing nearly all other means of getting gold
dense plover
or who arent buying $200 worth of tokens
this feels like a scheme to increase quarterly revenue
tranquil steeple
more like 300
zealous basalt
Quarterly revenue?
dense plover
"Hey this 5 million gold mount is going away and if you cant get the gold, you can buy it from us!"
yes
quarterly revenue
night swift
Cause people gonna buy to s of tokens
dense plover
as in the money they make this quarter
tranquil steeple
actually, wait
zealous basalt
I blame Classic
tranquil steeple
currently a token is 232k for EU
so it's atleast 400 euros
if you got a decent amount of gold already
dense plover
its literally going to raise revenue through whales
tranquil steeple
and close to 460-480 if you have barely any at all
round lake
voice your concern then
round lake
they could just because they added it doesnt mean they can change it
tranquil steeple
at best they'd reduce the cost temporarily to further entice people who don't have quite enough, to get enough through... you GUESSED IT
dark furnace
If there is an outcry for it, they might change it
cyan prairie
so token price is going down now...
ancient jasper
It's literally a blatant cash grab for Token sells
cyan prairie
cheaper tokens = more tokens for lower price = more € for Bnet balance = cheaper race changes
ancient jasper
How much is the Gold cap per character these days?
normal mango
10m
cyan prairie
9,999,999
ancient jasper
So expect the Brutosaur to be that any time it shows up on the BMAH
eager compass
dense plover
still no music according to stiven
ah
that explains the misc uncolored mask models from last build
they were the cosmetic versions of the vision ones
cyan prairie
that mask looks kinda shit, ngl
dense plover
it works with the rest of the armors
it allows you to look like the npcs
thats clearly its purpose
dense plover
¯_(ツ)_/¯
i thought it was a modified model
because it doesnt have the rest of the helm
cyan prairie
removed the hat
dense plover
and lets hair through
cyan prairie
that's the only difference
whole cedar
i'm sorry guys 😒
dense plover
why are you sorry?
whole cedar
I made the brutosaur posts lol
zealous basalt
Yep
ancient jasper
Not your fault you wanted info from Blizzard and that info turned out to be Blizzard being fucking stupid again
storm marsh
Question: do new eyes have glow or?
ancient jasper
It's hard to tell without seeing them ingame
dense plover
^
first implementation of the actual eyes
and the new eye tech
so the goal here is probably making sure they actual work in the model and dont break stuff
glow comes after
dense plover
@eager cradle realms are up but build hasnt been deployed to clients
its likely they are doing final passes to make sure the build is functional for raid testing tomorrow, since there wont be any builds or raid testing next week
ancient jasper
Eh? Realms are still down for me
eager cradle
didn't they just replace the glow?
dense plover
its the basic implementation that separates eyes from eye color
no
they removed the glow
novel zodiac
bli$$ard exist STONKS
dense plover
and are implementing the eyes as if this was shadowlands
because eyes and faces are separate now
zealous basalt
Ah
dense plover
or if there are fx, they havent been found via datamining the vendor build
zealous basalt
I doubt
eager cradle
@dense plover so in your experience, you don't believe servers are coming back any minute, right? 😄
dense plover
like, they might exist and are encrypted
they are coming back up
but the build hasnt gone out
that might not even happen today
zealous basalt
me 2
dense plover
i guarantee that right now they are checking server stability before deploying to the client in case they decide to rollback servers so they can still do the raid test tomorrow
because they HAVE to
zealous basalt
Ah its like
dense plover
lol
nah
this is an exception
specifically because next week is thanksgiving
and blizz probably gives Wednesday through the weekend as offtime
zealous basalt
So how do we riot
tropic trail
why riot?
zealous basalt
For longboi
tropic trail
oh
tropic trail
its going to die on 9.0
eager cradle
this kinda looks like a way to make people panic-buy tokens
eager cradle
they could have increased Q4 rev much easier by deploying vulpera in december, just think of all that race-change money
zealous basalt
Someone in the HQs went and said that people are that guilliable enough to buy Tokens if they remove the brutosaur
But peach
Didn't you say that this quarter and the next one is going to be a bad one for em?
eager cradle
Last quarter was classic release
of course this one is weaker because the big mainstream classic hype is over
dense plover
yeah but this is the christmas quarter
zealous basalt
And there is nothing to do in retail
dense plover
if it does worse than last quarter, thats really bad
zealous basalt
Probably they predicted a big loss for this quarter
dense plover
not neccesarily a loss
but compared to last quarter, doing worse in the christmas quarter looks bad
they can have massive falloff the quarter after and be fine because thats the WORST quarter
january is a bad month in general
they essentially just need december to do really well
but january doing well would look good because its historically bad universally
since everyone spends their money over the holidays
zealous basalt
So
ionic terrace
Doubt servers are up
ancient jasper
Will probably be a bit before servers are brought up
ionic terrace
Mhm, still down
whole cedar
@dense plover I wouldn't be so sure about no build next week
zealous basalt
ekekekeke
whole cedar
Last year they literally deployed a build on mother's day
I hope they won't release one but wouldn't come as a surprise if they did.
dense plover
mothers day isnt thanskgiving
thanksgiving is a federal holiday
oh damn
build deployed
ancient jasper
Yep
whole cedar
It was both a holiday and a Sunday so make of that what you will hehe
zealous basalt
Oh yes
ancient jasper
Huh.. Within an hour and a half that post has gotten nearly 300 replies.
dense plover
looks like the daily visions (the ones in the two assault zones) are going to have maps showing the area, which is a nice addition
calm garden
nice
ionic terrace
🤔
tropic trail
servers still down im guessing?
ionic terrace
Ye
lean yew
yeah im gonna guess servers wont be up until tomorrow morning
builds taking overnight used to be rare - now its last week and this, not sure whats up
they also used to have better communication
dense plover
not really
no communication on ptr is standard
also, the day there isnt over yet
they got another 2 hours
lean yew
its 4 in cali time
if its not up by 5 its prob not coming up
also
they used to communicate a lot, yes
zobrix and then the shark guy that starts with an A
everytime there was a build they'd communicate, and give updates.
They stopped that, and we just get radio silence now
ionic terrace
Yes
ionic terrace
sec
ionic terrace
😦
tropic trail
i guess we might need to wait for next build
calm garden
well thats nice to know
dense plover
choosing your celestial is different now
zealous basalt
How dks are looking?
dense plover
looks like cloak ilvl was changed
theres still no glow
it probably isnt finished
costs of the things sold by the rajani vendor were changed
use various currencies now
heres someones random dk near me makore
uncut vault
dense plover
think they changed the nzoth skybox maybe?
new pustule type things
different example - they twitch
ancient jasper
Did they change how the Character Creation stuff looks? Everything is silvery now
uncut lintel
screenshot :ooO?
dense plover
uh....no?
uncut vault
zealous basalt
The iris glows
uncut lintel
is that permenant natntn ?
ancient jasper
Huh you're right. Could swore everything was more gold
ionic terrace
for panda dk
dense plover
yeah
that was there for pandaren race/faction change before I think
or maybe for creating a boosted one?
uncut vault
both
dense plover
it just wasnt on for DKs last wekk
I dont THINK research cost was at the top before was it?
you can no longer enter the vision without a vessel
ionic terrace
You never could
ionic terrace
Nope
dense plover
i was able to visit the waiting room
ancient jasper
Dear God... 😐
dense plover
and then you couldnt enter
still no good way to move between the two zones
i hate all the loadscreens
they finally changed the table in uldum
daily quest rewards still suck 😦
this is new
theres also a toy version
vulture cost was lowered to 22.8k
creates a leash between you and your pet
also void scarred beetle is bugged
citizens were finally set to 120 elites instead of lvl 90
other explorer's league members are here
oh fuck
thank god
they finally set all the non invasion critters to lvl 119
so theyre pushovers
uh
not all of them
but uh, some?
¯_(ツ)_/¯
the oasis FP is fixed!
theres npcs again!
rewards for the not-nzoth vision changed
no longer just a piece of gear
specifically denotes a chance for a corrupted item
oh shit
and the nzoth one straight up contains a vessel of horrific visions
so you can now DEFINITELY do more than one a week
but it also means you probably want to group up
otherwise, probably only 2
theyve finally started rotating the rares and WQs more actively
new type of assault WQ marker
some new dailies
phase in range is still complete trash
i do not like only being able to see mobs within 40m
its ridiculous
uncut vault
its certainly a hindrance for taking good screenshots in my experience 😛
dense plover
it also just makes the assaults feel not active
and most of the map literally empty
and it makes finding quest mobs frustrating
ionic terrace
dense plover
the sun explosion the amathet can do now has an effect on the ground
they fixed the complaint i had
where it had no indicator
and then murdered you
whats that padwarle?
ionic terrace
no clue
ionic terrace
ahhh
dense plover
they fixed the escape animation for enslaved tolvir
they dont stand there for 3 sec anymore
they fixed the suntouch obelisk hitbox
dense plover
also I think all the mobs had their hp increased
wtf
everything is just slower to kill
sun obelisks actually have a destroy animation now
nvm, just some of the mobs apparently
probably stuff they want you to group up for?
whats that padwarle?
ionic terrace
it's the item for alani
dense plover
lol
sabatok got abilities
new amathet WQ
daily turn ins were unified
when you get your first corrupted item, you get a quest
ilvl 430
so they are now a definitive upgrade
and worth grinding
tho you can only get maybe 2/week
because invasions are weekly
and the big bar seems to only reset after weekly reset or when they switch
total corruption thing works correctly now
also
when you mouse over the corruption thing, it shows where the stats are coming from
see how the gloves and cloak have a glowing border?
ionic terrace
i just died and took sickness lol
dense plover
wrathion followup for the corruption turn in
no more confirmation
i dont like that
so i purified the gloves to test if there was a confirmatyion
there wasnt
im sad now
cuz theyre not as good
calm garden
its odd that i cant login into the ptr just gets stuck at "loging into game server" anyone else got that issue?
dense plover
try quiting and reloading launcher
calm garden
il try
dense plover
interesting
uncut vault
dense plover
lesser visions now specify they reset daily
upbeat cairn
dense plover
fish spawns are in
@ionic terrace is there a portal to get down to the big boss?
or did they remove that too?
oh
vilraxx is smaller
ancient jasper
o_O Did servers get taken down again?
dense plover
no?
ill check
oh uh
yup
maybe they crashed...
or maybe DKs are supposed to be and theyre fixing it?
/s
ancient jasper
Heh.. We'll see
The Brutosaur thread has 12k unique views and nearly 800 replies now
novel zodiac
biggest scam i've ever seen
there isn't any other way of name the whole thing but a money grab
not even a good one
summer cobalt
???
novel zodiac
im talking about the Brutosaur
they did that shit so people would run to buy tokens
summer cobalt
I don't think that's the case
summer cobalt
No, because 5 mil in wow tokens is $555, and if you have that much money to splurge, then you probs already have it
zealous basalt
Tbh its going to be a big community split
For one side those that don't have it
Other side for those that already have it
...Then a small part that doesnt give a fuck
ancient jasper
PTR servers are back
ancient jasper
Not that I see so far
calm garden
wow the servers instantly went back down haha
cyan prairie
about that Brutosaur mount - let's be honest, those who don't have it already, probably wouldn't ever get it anyway
sharp gulch
or they spent the gold on the other gold sinks before buying bruti
ancient jasper
... I bought the WotLK Vendor mount one Expansion later. I bought the MoP Vendor mount 2 Expansions later. I would have eventually saved up for the Brutosaur just like both of those.
sharp gulch
^
plain vigil
This^^^
sharp gulch
for me i also thought: why would i spend 5mil for 1 mount when i can easily buy 15+ mounts with that gold
strange falcon
because status symbol of being a richboi
sharp gulch
id rather have my status symbol of having over 500 mounts than 1 mount i wont even use
strange falcon
then dont buy it o.o
it's the same reason as the 2m spider mount
it's a goldsink for people with way too much gold
sharp gulch
they shouldnt just be removing something thats aimed for a real small part of the playerbase
strange falcon
and that leonel boi is known for being generally disruptive or troll-ish
smoky mural
You buy the long boi for big dick energy
cyan prairie
i wonder
if alliance got their own version of AH mount (xD)
would it be a normal, or a really big horse?
summer cobalt
It's not faction specific
night swift
^
cyan prairie
it's a Zandalari - themed mount
night swift
We dont need 2 versions
summer cobalt
Yeah, and it's not faction specific
summer cobalt
Also, Jenny's point of buying 15 mounts with the gold of the longboi is invalid since none of those mounts would have the AH on them
strange falcon
theres no giant creature in kultiras tho
cyan prairie
there are humans xD
night swift
That too
summer cobalt
The wicker beasts
cyan prairie
too good design for alliance
strange falcon
you were already very very lucky they let you have wicker druid forms
dont push your luck or else blizz will give you a full expac of shadowlands horses
summer cobalt
don't threaten us with that
strange falcon
still wicker beasts
cyan prairie
looks like a KFC chicken from chernobyl
sharp gulch
for some people 15 mounts are more valuable than a +1
not everyone cares about it having a AH
hasty tendon
Honestly, an AH is a really great choice for a gold sink mount.
The only people rich enough to buy it is usually the ones that spend lots of time on the AH, anyway.
It just doesn't matter enough to poor people for us to care, and that's actually kind of a neat setup.
sharp gulch
poor people could have been planning to buy it in next expacs similar to the yak and mammoth
hasty tendon
Right, but poor people also save lots of time having a Repair Vendor or transmogger right by their side.
They usually don't use the AH enough for that saved time to be worth the investment.
Of course there's the unique model as well
And this is the only utility mount to have a unique skeleton.
So I see your point, I just don't agree with it.
zealous basalt
I'm surprised you all follow Mauldrak's discussion when we all know he doesn't really care about anything that isn't horde no matter if we are talking for a general overview of things
cyan prairie
wasn't farming in WoD just spamming some garrison missions?
strange falcon
not really,since you had gold farmers even before
but wod/legion contributed to increasing the rich population
errant iron
it’s stupid that they’re moving it to BMAH
cyan prairie
i hope we'll get gold from WQs like we did in Legion
where clearing Broken Isles could give like 10k gold daily
cyan prairie
yeah, that's a good change
strange falcon
its not really "stupid" if you consider WHY the brutosaur(or even the spider from legion) were put in,with such a high price
it's a goldsink
and putting it on the BMAH,only makes it cost more than 5M
which enhances its purpose as a goldsink
errant iron
yeah so what’s the point of moving it to BMAH where people have to compete for it
cyan prairie
so they can pay more for it
errant iron
it’s not gonna be there every day either
strange falcon
if you have 5M gold,you certainly have a way to farm gold or similar,
so a million more or less
shouldnt make a difference :P
its not like it's an item that will be had by more than the 1% of the games population
errant iron
I had around that at the beginning of BfA because of the easy BoE farm, didn’t make it leas valuable to me
so yes it matters
strange falcon
it doesnt matter to enough people apparently :p
errant iron
what do you mean
strange falcon
it was put in as a goldsink for people with too much gold,and moving it to BMAH makes it better at its intended purpose
the fact people that arent goldfarmers also buy it,doesnt mean thats not its purpose
errant iron
then it should’ve been there from the beginning
so the rich already have it but the poorer players get to struggle more to get it
yay
buy tokens plz
strange falcon
if you are "poor" you wouldnt even consider getting it
since the prohibitive price
strange falcon
as i stated earlier,"the fact people who arent goldfarmers also buy it,doesnt mean it wasnt put into the game as a goldsink"
errant iron
you can use it in M+ to save your runs from people who didn’t bring invis pots
cyan prairie
you would have to stop buying flasks, food, runes, enchants and gems for raids/M+
or farm the gold all time
strange falcon
^thats what the richest already do
and this mount was intended for them to spend their gold
cyan prairie
i'm personally happy with them making it a BMAH mount
token's price will go down, and i'll be able to buy a race change for less gold
strange falcon
also moving it to the BMAH,almost completely eliminates "people who save up" from the equation
since it is implied it will always come at an even higher price and timegated
cyan prairie
i think they do it to fix the token price so it can be easier to farm
when BfA started the token price went down because of race changes to Mag'har or just buying these 2 expensive mounts
if SL doesn't add any new allied race, they need some other way of lowering the price
in Legion the token price reached like 370k?
lowering token's price might actually be good for them - more new people will see token as "farmable"
zealous basalt
Token went unbelievably high these weeks
cyan prairie
u in US?
zealous basalt
184k
cyan prairie
in Legion, token price in EU went to 370k
cyan prairie
doubtful
it's actually hard to say
they can split into 2 groups
those who grind gold asap now
and those who are "nah, i don't actually need it, but i'll buy it in SL on BMAH"
strange falcon
I mean,5M gold is around or more (with inflated token prices) $500+
cyan prairie
let's do maths
1 token = 20 €
1 token = 230k
20 tokens = 4,6m gold
22 tokens = Brutosaur mount
440 € = 488,40 $
what was the price in US?
strange falcon
184k says mak
cyan prairie
and how much $ do you pay for one token?
strange falcon
Idk
cyan prairie
well nvm
still
i don't see anyone paying 440€ just to buy an AH mount...
(but yeah i know there are people that would and will actually do it)
craggy nexus
I need to take the next three months off work to farm and get the funds to buy that mount before it gets removed. I hope they change their mind on that.
cyan prairie
they keep changing everything on PTR like every few days
like they did with the infinite essence on neck
craggy nexus
It would be $550~ for us in the US to get through tokens.
zealous basalt
I better buy a pc for that price
Also we don't know if something similar will happen on SL
cyan prairie
Getting to AH takes like 30 seconds if u HS back to the city?
I don't think it's worth spending so much money just to save some tiny amounts of time
Does the AH mount have a mailbox built in?
craggy nexus
I want the mount not for the AH, but for the collection.
It doesn't have a mailbox.
craggy nexus
Yes.
cyan prairie
Doesn't sound like a good choice...
deep pawn
Blizzard better not add a fatigue system to mounts outside of a single stupid mini-quest
deep pawn
just going off the items they added
dense plover
Yeah. That’s weird
No evidence of any changes
Might be items for the devs
I very much doubt they would change how all mounts work. Could be part of a temporary mount system
deep pawn
As someone who's anti-timegating on pathfinder even, anything that makes flying or mounts annoying in general is a huge red flag
dense plover
Except the items aren’t available in game
And mounts themselves have had no changes
I wouldn’t worry
Weird stuff like that is added ALL the time
It doesn’t usually mean anything
tranquil steeple
am I just stupid, or do I simply not see the items anywhere?
deep pawn
mmo-c has it front page
storm marsh
This whole patch is a Disneyland for Shadow Priests. Can't wait to have that curve drake
tranquil steeple
hm yeah, I see them there, aight.
well, I don't necessarily think they're gonna make changes to all mounts, or the mount system itself
and that they're rather just there to encourage you to go "ok, fatigue... maybe I can get these new items and deal with it"
otherwise, as peach suggested, maybe it's just dev items
deep pawn
but fatigue currently is a way to have "out of bounds" areas
zealous basalt
Don't worry about it
deep pawn
there's nothing else to do until January except speculate about ptr builds. 😄
tranquil steeple
with weird items like those, we're very likely to get some context behind them eventually
zealous basalt
And it doesn't mean getting worried over something that will be nothing
deep pawn
if people ask questions maybe they'll explain it like they did with the AH mount going away
zealous basalt
However we didn't ask about that and they just told us
Besides
Wouldn't mount fatigue be actually more immersive?
deep pawn
not something I care about when it comes to travel.
deep pawn
If people want immersive travel experiences, classic is there waiting for you haha
aka, "take flight path and afk"
deep pawn
it's well known the devs hate flying
but it's the players that won't let them remove it
zealous basalt
Understandable
If I spend a shit ton creating a beautiful environment just for people to fly around and don't care
I would be upset
cyan prairie
flying kills wpvp
deep pawn
Tell that to mechagon and nazjatar
tranquil steeple
Optional mounted pvp 
cyan prairie
lol no
zealous basalt
What
cyan prairie
there were full 40v40 raids on assaults all time
zealous basalt
Lol
cyan prairie
until flying was added
zealous basalt
Ye
deep pawn
That's more of the fact that assaults don't provide relevant rewards anymore more than flying
deep pawn
They did it for the free epics, not the pvp
tropic trail
I wish BfA didn't have flying
zealous basalt
You think so
I mean tbh nazj was hell to travel via foot
But that was the charm of it
deep pawn
Then why are people still doing the CTA massive battles in Nazj and Mechagon each week, cause it gives a relevant reward in conquest.
zealous basalt
Because it's fun?
tropic trail
As a roleplayer, going on foot in Kul Tiras felt awesome
deep pawn
then why do many stop once they get their 25 kills
cyan prairie
conquest doesn't give anything useful if you don't have proper pvp rating
deep pawn
it still gives heroic gear
cyan prairie
heroic gear is nothing
zealous basalt
Bold to assume everyone is useless
deep pawn
not a stretch to assume most people don't mythic raid
bold granite
Plenty of people mythic raid
deep pawn
I mean most 430 gear isn't an upgrade to me, but there's always a chance the weekly conquest item titanforges
bold granite
Up to ten is easy for at least me to find groups for
After that..... ot just sucks though
deep pawn
Yes, but outside of maybe the first 3, it's way less than half of all players. Raiding has always been a minority of end game, and mythic is even smaller
zealous basalt
Irrelevant of the topic
deep pawn
indeed, but I'd still say flying does nothing to inhibit or encourage wpvp.
zealous basalt
It does still
deep pawn
Mechagon and Nazjatar are full of it and that's with flying
give relevant rewards that people want to fight over, and they'll fight
tropic trail
I love Deja CharacterStats. Tells me how far till the next item level
deep pawn
but most people won't fight for the sake of fighting
tropic trail
For example, item level 403.80
zealous basalt
Dab
cyan prairie
a weekly shield drop away from a new ilvl
tropic trail
I said how much you have left till an item level higher
tropic trail
I got a titanforged from a world quest. It's currently my highest item
Neck doesn't count
cyan prairie
what ilvl is it?
tropic trail
I don't even remember xD
zealous basalt
Oh boi
cyan prairie
rip gearing alts
deep pawn
you can grind gear better than heroics in them
zealous basalt
I think it just scales with level
zealous basalt
You said it, you can do m10 in a breeze
limber mural
m10 isn't actually a challenge for a large % of people
deep pawn
so a new +15 will be the same as a +19 is currently
limber mural
and those that can't, well not everyone's entitled to the best gear
deep pawn
people who can time a 19 in current gear will time 15s
cyan prairie
i think they shouldn't increase the base M0s difficulty if they move the required key to +15 for a weekly item
deep pawn
they're probably just trying to make them as hard as they were the first 2 seasons
M+ was much easier this season
cyan prairie
what?
normal mango
the seasonal affix seems it would be easier than beguiling tbh
deep pawn
in terms of +10 affix, reaping was easier, but in overall difficulty, the dungeons were harder last tier cause of no essences.
cyan prairie
you could push like +19s without even a proper team
cyan prairie
beguiling feels like a worse and more annoying version of Infested
tranquil steeple
beguiling's cool as far as "adapting your route based on the which emissary is primarily present)
but for example a void emissary right in the open with nowhere to LoS, super close to a pack that's hell to pull already, while being unavoidable to pull
or the blowback emissary that deals damage back if you damage mobs in the AoE of its aura... yet people still go in full force
cyan prairie
or
emissary of the tides (the cc-block one) at the annoying pack just before 3rd boss in UR
combined with forti/teeming...
that's what i hate about beguiling - it's too rng to be fun
tranquil steeple
you mean the duo of revenant-esque mobs?
limber mural
i mean
the answer to that is root
and hope to hell you didn't manage one of the like 4 comps in the game that doesn't have a root/CC in it
tranquil steeple
pfft, PuG's... THINKING? blasphemous
cyan prairie
it doesn't matter if it gets rooted or not, that pack alone was annoying enough
you need to do something about that add - someone has to either tank it, or keep rooting it
and each second on that pack is more and more dangerous
tranquil steeple
mostly only if there's no interrupts used, in my experience
zealous basalt
Did someone say
tranquil steeple
but yeah it's annoying when the emissary will make an annoying pull even worse
tropic trail
BLASPHEMY
zealous basalt
No interrupts
cyan prairie
yeah, but let's say someone tanks it - they can't interrupt the adds if they're melee
and lack of interrupt is an instant death there
tropic trail
I hope they give interrupts to healers in Shadowlands
tranquil steeple
there was one time I did UR when there was the tides emissary at that pack
so I just decided to nuke it as hard as I could to get aggro
while the tank pulled the other mobs away
cyan prairie
yeah, that's how you usually should do it
tranquil steeple
and until they killed them, I healed myself (and them when needed, since I am typically the healer)
while still DPS'ing the emissary
tropic trail
How to pull a mob:
Normal people: use ranged attack and run in
Warriors: CHAAAAARGE
tranquil steeple
Random mob minding it's business:
Warriors: Tumbleweed charges with obnoxiously loud music in the background
cyan prairie
Random mob midning it's business:
Some stupid paladin in party that doesn't understand that not all classes have bubble: "Judgment, bubble, why are you dead?"
tranquil steeple
Boss minding it's own business:
Hunters: yeets ranged weapon at boss and feigns death
zealous basalt
Add of the boss minding it's own business:
Monk's clone: Subtle ora
cyan prairie
and killed our healer
tranquil steeple
whuh what
zealous basalt
Aggro reset
tranquil steeple
was it because the boss instead fixated on the healer
zealous basalt
Then the tank is stupid
limber mural
No, if you get fixated and FD it goes back to tank
zealous basalt
Unless tank can't hold agro
zealous basalt
Says the dumb tank
limber mural
if you FD pursuit
zealous basalt
Just take kt
cyan prairie
you know how Rezan even works? xD
limber mural
it goes straight back to the tank
zealous basalt
TAKE IT
tranquil steeple
Mak shadup you Human Monk Boomer
zealous basalt
Yes I do
limber mural
Yes, I've done it a hundred times rofl
zealous basalt
I let rezan eat me
tropic trail
What have I started
zealous basalt
Devour me
limber mural
your tanks be sleepin
tropic trail
WITH KARMA?
zealous basalt
Lick my insides with his rotten tongue
cyan prairie
Mak what was the highest key you did?
limber mural
FD, SM, are all totally free on rez-
tropic trail
Mak you're also a genius
zealous basalt
While I have karma of course
limber mural
what?
limber mural
yo mak can you just go up 2 posts and delet that
dry knot
There are multiple ways to avoid devour, if that's what this convo is about
zealous basalt
I use a dirty hack that boost my hp over 70% with gladiator trinket
limber mural
@dry knot this mans be saying that if you FD, threat resets and it's a death sentence for healer
zealous basalt
LET REZAN TAKE ME AND DEFILE ME
tropic trail
Kono hentai
limber mural
y'all be sinning
tranquil steeple
mak you fucking human monk boomer weeb go take your medicine
zealous basalt
Touch of Karma awakens weird feelings when I'm getting hit
cyan prairie
hunter - use the aspect of the cheetah to kite the boss
Hunter: No
uses Feign Death
Rezan - fixates on a poor priest healer that can't even run away
limber mural
That's not how it works rofl
tropic trail
Do you use Good Karma?
limber mural
Your tanks be sleepin
zealous basalt
Yes
tropic trail
It's really strong
dry knot
lul wtf
tranquil steeple
I've never been a victim of Rezan re-fixating on me
from someone (like Hunters) stopping the fixate effect
limber mural
Rezan does not re-fixate, and if your tank isn't an idiot they get threat back
Easy
tropic trail
I've never been a victim of Rezan
dry knot
If you shadowmeld as a nelf for example, it just stops the fixate
tranquil steeple
only the actual Fixate cast when it decides I'm the target
dry knot
he doesn't choose a new target
zealous basalt
Unless it's a starting pull
limber mural
i don't think that's the argument, what this mans is saying is the threat table is reset afterwards if you do that
which is bizarre
zealous basalt
Ah
cyan prairie
he does if the FD happens before he starts casting fixate
like, he has a cast bar before the fixate attack
zealous basalt
No shit
dry knot
that is just dumb @limber mural
limber mural
Yeah no shit sherlock
tranquil steeple
so what you're saying is that
cyan prairie
if FD happens before that cast bar ends, he chooses another target
zealous basalt
No shit
tranquil steeple
if he's not ACTUALLY fixated on the hunter and going for them
and the hunter FDs
limber mural
You wait til pursuit starts then FD
tranquil steeple
THEN he selects a new target
zealous basalt
The hunter is an eediet
limber mural
Everyone knows that who isn't a chimpanzee
tranquil steeple
AS INTENDED
zealous basalt
It's konosuba levels of eediot
tranquil steeple
and not that he suddenly swaps to the healer in every case of a hunter FD'ing the Fixation
zealous basalt
Kinkshame him everyone
limber mural
yeah the fixate is regardless of role/threat
cyan prairie
no shit
zealous basalt
Hunter was trolling probs
cyan prairie
did i say that it always targets a healer? no
zealous basalt
LET HIM DEVOUR YOU
tropic trail
Mak likes being eaten >.>
limber mural
Mak needs to stop
dry knot
btw, what's the strongest racial for m+? has to be shadowmeld as of rn
tropic trail
Why aren't you always ganked by unded?
cyan prairie
i just said that boss killed healer instead, because hunter FDed before the attack started
limber mural
@dry knot Honestly I'd say that or Light's Judgement
zealous basalt
Who says I don't
zealous basalt
Who says I don't drop myself in org just for funs
tropic trail
I think the troll racial is
limber mural
well lightforged racial is the funny 120k dps button for me
tropic trail
So much haste
dry knot
but you can dodge so many mechanics with shadowmeld
tranquil steeple
so the healer was a dumbass for not noticing the fixate changed target
tranquil steeple
because the intended mechanic to lock in the fixation
zealous basalt
It was a group problem
tranquil steeple
was interrupted by the hunter FD'ing
zealous basalt
Hunter was a troll
cyan prairie
or, he was a priest that had no mobility to run away from the boss?
tranquil steeple
and not having any sort of mobility (which you can spec into)
zealous basalt
Git gud
cyan prairie
mak, you're bad at baiting
tropic trail
Priests are slow by default xD
limber mural
You started off saying 'hunters lol'
tranquil steeple
which is again, healer's fault in that case
limber mural
What you were actually saying was 'idiot players lol'
zealous basalt
Hunters are bad
limber mural
You started off showing mad ignorance of game mechanics but obviously weren't communicating what you meant to say enough
now you did
congrats
tranquil steeple
the hunter could have timed the FD better, yes, which is fine to complain about
but the hunter is not to blame for the healer not paying attention to themselves being fixated
cyan prairie
yeah and that's what i'm saying
tranquil steeple
and not having specced into mobility
tropic trail
Is it THAT hard to run behind pillars? Honestly, Rezan is the easiest encounter
cyan prairie
wrong mechanic Lyo
limber mural
...behind pillars? for the fixate?
cyan prairie
it wasn't the fear spell
but fixate attack
WHICH CAN'T BE TAUNTED @zealous basalt
limber mural
honestly i have no idea what the inside part of rezan's room is like
and i'll never bother to learn
zealous basalt
And who said it can be taunted
cyan prairie
you did
zealous basalt
I didn't know you mean the whole fixate stuff
limber mural
just like i'll never bother to learn what the middle pack of the platform in atal'dazar mid does
cyan prairie
that it was tank fault that rezan focused on healer with his fixate attack
dry knot
lol this entire convo was about fixate mak
tropic trail
You guys should run the dungeon together xD
cyan prairie
i ain't boosting anyone
limber mural
At that point we all thought you were saying when fixate drops due to FD, rezan goes for healer due to threat
cyan prairie
not anymore
zealous basalt
I said it was tanks fault for being stupid by making that group of fails
limber mural
You never made clear you meant re-fixate due to timing
limber mural
that was at the point you were miscommunicating
tropic trail
I assume the boss getting taunted mid fixate then resuming to fixate is what he meant
tranquil steeple
healer dies because not paying attention, actually healer's fault, not hunter
limber mural
egh i'm done with this conversation tbqh
zealous basalt
It's the whole groups faul
And it's maul's fault to make this convo
In the fucking Ptr channel
tropic trail
Yeet to #retail-wow
cyan prairie
actually i didn't make it
tranquil steeple
it branched off of talking about the increase to base M0 difficulty
cyan prairie
ye
zealous basalt
Still
tranquil steeple
so it slowly went to this, but it wasn't just suddenly "SO THIS M+ I DID GOT FUCKED ONCE"
cyan prairie
Mak it was actually you who started it, because you read something wrong
dry knot
do we know what the max ilvl from the chest will be in 8.3 btw?
tranquil steeple
and tbf we all kinda did get too riled up in the conversation itself
cyan prairie
475 probably
dry knot
right, ty
tranquil steeple
here, darbotar
https://www.wowhead.com/news=296383/rewards-from-mythic-increased-in-season-4-up-to-15-keystones
deep pawn
it does feel a bit weird that they're letting you grind gear better than most heroic bosses
dull flame
😰
they expanding the endgame
so instead of just raiding you can skip raids and do endgame m+
i just hope they increase ilvl rewards for WQ coz of the new raid increase in ilvl
dull flame
it bugs me that every alt need to go thro that 370 395-400-415 run before doing m+/Heroics
dull flame
and heart lvl too
having to grind alts again is a pain in the arse
one more quest boost to get atleast 60 after patch would be nice
cyan prairie
having to grind essences is a pain even bigger than gearing them
dull flame
true
cyan prairie
especially due to some of them being timegated
dull flame
but im fine with essence farm they just need to ease up abit on requirements
i needed to pvp like a retard for the best PVE essence
coz it costed leg and kidney
and next patch it was not that interesting anymore Y_Y
cursive sun
is this bug or why this one have two positive ？
cyan prairie
it would be easier if we could read it...
cyan prairie
hard to tell
seems like a logical combo, but idk if we have any information about double effects on items
cursive sun
if become double effect,,it maybe need more time to get best one
it will need more time at M+ or raid...
cyan prairie
how much corruption does other item with a single effect give?
cursive sun
one is level 1 , one is level 2 i think?