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midnight saddle Nov 14, 2019, 3:38 AM

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https://wow.gamepedia.com/Well_of_Eternity

Wowpedia

Well of Eternity

The Well of Eternity was a lake of scintillating arcane energies and limitless power formed from the very lifeblood of Azeroth's world-soul. The Well was located on the ancient continent of Kalimdor near the night elven city of Zin-Azshari. The present area where the Well of ...

tropic trail Nov 14, 2019, 3:39 AM

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It's his, quote, last breath

midnight saddle Nov 14, 2019, 3:39 AM

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Read the first paragraph under history

dense plover Nov 14, 2019, 3:39 AM

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the sha are factually pieces of yshaarj

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they arent its blood

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they are literally pieces of the old god that remained after it was torn out

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the 7 headed god has 7 major sha for a reason

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sundering was caused by the well being closed

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not the invasion

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also the sha are nothing like saronite

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yshaarj was murdered

midnight saddle Nov 14, 2019, 3:40 AM

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Which created the well

dense plover Nov 14, 2019, 3:40 AM

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yogg was creating saronite because a tree stabbed him with its roots

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it created the hole

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which amanthul sealed using the well

midnight saddle Nov 14, 2019, 3:41 AM

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Yeah

dense plover Nov 14, 2019, 3:41 AM

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related to earlier discussion of pre-titan races, its complicated

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considering all things, probably centaurs, tauren, and trolls

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and uh

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furbolgs?

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oh and murlocs

midnight saddle Nov 14, 2019, 3:42 AM

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Tauren are based of the yaungol tho

tropic trail Nov 14, 2019, 3:42 AM

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"Hey day fishdear! How was your day at the offish?"

dense plover Nov 14, 2019, 3:42 AM

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i thought it was the other way but that still works

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when i said tauren i was including the 3 main groups

tropic trail Nov 14, 2019, 3:43 AM

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Yaungol are tauren that evolved into yaks basically

dense plover Nov 14, 2019, 3:43 AM

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taunka tauren and yaungol

midnight saddle Nov 14, 2019, 3:43 AM

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Opposite way

dense plover Nov 14, 2019, 3:43 AM

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huh, yaungol came first

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TIL

tropic trail Nov 14, 2019, 3:43 AM

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Lorewalker Cho says otherwise

midnight saddle Nov 14, 2019, 3:43 AM

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Tauren are yaungol who got gifted my cenarius

tropic trail Nov 14, 2019, 3:43 AM

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No

midnight saddle Nov 14, 2019, 3:44 AM

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Chronicle says other wise

tropic trail Nov 14, 2019, 3:44 AM

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Highmountain tauren are tauren who got gifted with the horns of Eche'ro

dense plover Nov 14, 2019, 3:44 AM

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chronicles says it was the well

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and that the well made a subtribe of yaungol into tauren

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and that the yaungol were created or cared for by cenarius

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so i guess maybe not pre-titans?

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its hard to say

midnight saddle Nov 14, 2019, 3:45 AM

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Yeah it’s been a while

tropic trail Nov 14, 2019, 3:45 AM

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What the frick is pre vanilla lore?

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Ugh

dense plover Nov 14, 2019, 3:45 AM

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📎 Yaungol.png

zealous basalt Nov 14, 2019, 3:45 AM

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Oh god

dense plover Nov 14, 2019, 3:45 AM

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oldstyle yaungol art

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from lore

midnight saddle Nov 14, 2019, 3:45 AM

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Well if yaungol are niuzo’s children

dense plover Nov 14, 2019, 3:45 AM

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they look pretty bestial here

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so its likely they go back further than the wild gods

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and that they were refined by them

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or by the titans

tropic trail Nov 14, 2019, 3:46 AM

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"Ooo, a cow. Lemme make it humanoid."

dense plover Nov 14, 2019, 3:46 AM

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considering that

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turned into this

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📎 Yaungol_island_expedition_map_sketch.png

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the proportions in the first make it seem like they were a lot less civilized

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which does make sense considering the yaungol's culture

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i guess its hard to say whether theyre pretitan or not

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but the rest I listed im pretty sure are

tropic trail Nov 14, 2019, 3:47 AM

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I think everything pre titans should be elementals

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Then the old gods came and life was actually possible cause the elementals stopped fighting

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Then the titans came

midnight saddle Nov 14, 2019, 3:48 AM

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Well arnt centaurs one of cenarius’ kids mates with the earth elemental in Maraudon?

dense plover Nov 14, 2019, 3:48 AM

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yes

midnight saddle Nov 14, 2019, 3:48 AM

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Or something weird like that

dense plover Nov 14, 2019, 3:48 AM

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i dont know if cenarius was pre or post titans

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i dont remember

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probably post

midnight saddle Nov 14, 2019, 3:49 AM

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So down to trolls based as pre titans

tropic trail Nov 14, 2019, 3:49 AM

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The amani pretty much ruled over the non elemental parts of the world

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When you start to think about it, trolls spend the whole of Warcraft getting screwed

dense plover Nov 14, 2019, 3:50 AM

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dont forget murlocs

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and furbolgs

tropic trail Nov 14, 2019, 3:50 AM

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Oh yeah

midnight saddle Nov 14, 2019, 3:50 AM

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Also zandalari were first troll tribe

tropic trail Nov 14, 2019, 3:51 AM

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Not amani?

dense plover Nov 14, 2019, 3:51 AM

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nope

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zandalari

midnight saddle Nov 14, 2019, 3:51 AM

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Arnt furbolgs just ursoc’s kids

dense plover Nov 14, 2019, 3:51 AM

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dont think so?

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"Furbolgs have oral traditions that say they have ancient origins.[4] They descend from an ancient race of bear-men known as the jalgar. The jalgar warred with the Dragonflayer vrykul, but when the Dragonflayers gained the upper hand by learning to ride proto-dragons, the jalgar were pushed south into the central forests of Kalimdor.[5]

According to Brann Bronzebeard, the furbolgs are descended from the bear Ancient Ursoc.[6] Given the information above, Ursoc's direct descendants may actually be the jalgar race. "

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wowpedia

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so yes

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post titans maybe

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tho their pre-titan race

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might be a thing?

midnight saddle Nov 14, 2019, 3:52 AM

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Probably will never see an actual jalgar tho

dense plover Nov 14, 2019, 3:52 AM

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"Brann Bronzebeard's research said that Ursoc created the furbolgs.[2] Chronicle Volume 1 explained that furbolg descend from the jalgar. Thus Ursoc may have either created the jalgar, or turned them into furbolg."

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so its unclear

midnight saddle Nov 14, 2019, 3:52 AM

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Unless the theory of the werebear is actually a jalgar

dense plover Nov 14, 2019, 3:53 AM

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and definitely murlocs tho

tropic trail Nov 14, 2019, 3:53 AM

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Manafish

dense plover Nov 14, 2019, 3:53 AM

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they may pre-date trolls apparently

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which makes sense considering how strongly the well can effect them

tropic trail Nov 14, 2019, 3:54 AM

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"Let's dip in mana heehoo"

midnight saddle Nov 14, 2019, 3:54 AM

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So what ur saying is Azeroth will look like a giant Murlocs

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Or have atleast some fish like elements

dense plover Nov 14, 2019, 3:54 AM

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azeroth is probably humanoid like all other titans

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the only reason murlocs predate trolls is probably because the old gods are mainly land based beings

tropic trail Nov 14, 2019, 3:55 AM

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Still wondering what element will be given to her

dense plover Nov 14, 2019, 3:55 AM

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so being underwater makes it easier to avoid them

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dont know if we will ever know

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she cant ever be awoken or killed

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if either of those happen, the planet explodes

midnight saddle Nov 14, 2019, 3:56 AM

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Argus was alright besides being fel corrupted after he woke up

tropic trail Nov 14, 2019, 3:56 AM

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I like that gravity works normally in WoW xD

dense plover Nov 14, 2019, 3:56 AM

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no the actual planet

tropic trail Nov 14, 2019, 3:56 AM

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Nobody:
Literally nobody:
Sigma: "NO ONE ESCAPES GRAVITY!!"

dense plover Nov 14, 2019, 3:56 AM

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it either cracks like an egg

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or explodes (based on the magni comic)

tropic trail Nov 14, 2019, 3:58 AM

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Azeroth: "If I die I'm taking you lil shits with me"

midnight saddle Nov 14, 2019, 3:58 AM

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I mean the planet of Argus was fine when Argus woke up

dense plover Nov 14, 2019, 3:58 AM

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no it wasnt

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it shattered like an egg

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thats why its all shattered

zealous basalt Nov 14, 2019, 3:58 AM

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Well

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Part of it was still pretty

tropic trail Nov 14, 2019, 3:59 AM

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True

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It's also kinda liveable there?

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Oxygen exists and you can get water supplies from Azeroth through a portal

dense plover Nov 14, 2019, 3:59 AM

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sure, but it would be bad

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and its unlikely to be a thing they do

tropic trail Nov 14, 2019, 4:00 AM

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Also, how did the demons survive if the planet cracked but if ours does, we all die?

zealous basalt Nov 14, 2019, 4:00 AM

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I think

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That with the sword still in azeroth

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that might be like

dense plover Nov 14, 2019, 4:00 AM

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im not saying we all die

zealous basalt Nov 14, 2019, 4:00 AM

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the excuse to never touch the "azeroth awakening" stuff

dense plover Nov 14, 2019, 4:00 AM

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and it cracking didnt kill everything

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and the demons werent originally there

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remember, a lot of eredar became corrupted

zealous basalt Nov 14, 2019, 4:01 AM

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I think like

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it would crack but it wouldn't unleash a cataclysmic event

dense plover Nov 14, 2019, 4:01 AM

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theoretically thats a way to do it

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but i feel like that would defeat the lore theyve made

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i think its more likely they just never do it

zealous basalt Nov 14, 2019, 4:01 AM

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Ye

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Unless they'd prepare to never touch Azeroth again

tropic trail Nov 14, 2019, 4:02 AM

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Until they run out of ideas

zealous basalt Nov 14, 2019, 4:02 AM

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ie a WoW 2

dense plover Nov 14, 2019, 4:02 AM

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they have 10+ expansions

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we will not see a WoW 2 unless something revolutionary happens with technology

zealous basalt Nov 14, 2019, 4:02 AM

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There is a lot to explore in the lore

tropic trail Nov 14, 2019, 4:02 AM

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VR without having to move!

zealous basalt Nov 14, 2019, 4:02 AM

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Do you mean SAO

tropic trail Nov 14, 2019, 4:03 AM

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XD

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The abridged series is better btw

dense plover Nov 14, 2019, 4:03 AM

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#no-wow-discussion

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dont get into anime here

tropic trail Nov 14, 2019, 4:04 AM

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Just saying that if something like that ever happens, WoW 2 might as well

normal niche Nov 14, 2019, 4:21 AM

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wait

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can we talk about wow anime?

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that counts as wow

tropic trail Nov 14, 2019, 5:00 AM

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I wanted to make one at some point

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About my RP adventures while questing

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Also some PvP I did meanwhile

cyan prairie Nov 14, 2019, 6:12 AM

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Azeroth - The Titan of Hope xD

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Btw, when The Arbiter got mentioned on Blizzcon

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They were saying "SHE is..."

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Imagine a plot twist where we find out that the Arbiter was Sylvanas/Azeroth

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And all the story of BfA was meant to lead us to Jailer and kill him

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"This world is a prison" - We need to stay on Azeroth to defend the Titan Soul all the time

mighty wolf Nov 14, 2019, 6:31 AM

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Sylvanas is not the Arbiter, 100% khadgarface

cyan prairie Nov 14, 2019, 6:32 AM

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Ok, but what about Azeroth

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It could be interesting if she was

mighty wolf Nov 14, 2019, 6:33 AM

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Think it could be Elune or someone new, like Jailor

cyan prairie Nov 14, 2019, 6:33 AM

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I don't think it's Elune

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Since her story happens in Ardenweald

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She's related to Night Elves and i doubt she's anything more

mighty wolf Nov 14, 2019, 6:35 AM

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70-80% that it's someone new 🤔

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Athena happy

cyan prairie Nov 14, 2019, 6:37 AM

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I think we should have someone "Old" there instead of all the characters being new

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Important characters*

mighty wolf Nov 14, 2019, 6:38 AM

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Or Femida

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Or someone else

proven widget Nov 14, 2019, 7:45 AM

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Someone new would be more interesting

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Blizz needs to add new compelling characters to replace old ones getting killed off

strange falcon Nov 14, 2019, 7:47 AM

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inb4 they do just that

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but they're super annoying

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watch what you wish for 👀

red raft Nov 14, 2019, 8:04 AM

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"Like, oh muh gawd. How dare you, like, question where I like, send my souls; ya know? Like that is SO rude!" - The Arbiter

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Like that kind of annoying?

strange falcon Nov 14, 2019, 8:09 AM

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thats "entitled"annoying

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👀

red raft Nov 14, 2019, 8:12 AM

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Hey entitled is a type of super. Never heard of the superhero.. uhh.. Entitled... Man?

tropic trail Nov 14, 2019, 9:09 AM

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The Arbiter is the Jailor's ex wife and they broke up after the Jailor's lust for souls confirmed

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He got greedy

plain vigil Nov 14, 2019, 9:43 AM

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Am In fraternity.... Hear "almighty Archon" every Sunday.... Looks at the leader of the Kyrin.....

austere gazelle Nov 14, 2019, 12:05 PM

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Since her story happens in Ardenweald
She's related to Night Elves and i doubt she's anything more```

Oh, my sweet summer child 😂

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She's also related to the titans, and seems to predate them though :p

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Tears or Elune, supposedly created the Naaru, Elunaria, Elarian Sanctuary, Eonar... Turning souls into constellation... She's higher than the titans , and since she can manipulates the souls of living people without passing by the shadowlands, she's even higher than the shadowlands itself.

Mind my words : she is a primal godess of Balance, maybe the one who forged the universe, if chronicles mentionned her brievly and did not answer to what she was, and is written apparently from the titans perspective, even the titans do not know what she is, and her origin predates them, like the shadowlands predates them ^^

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But, alas, we can never be sure of anything, since the retcon are many, and can happend in the most weird places

upper remnant Nov 14, 2019, 1:13 PM

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The titans are dead from their own perspective
That's interesting

smoky mural Nov 14, 2019, 1:24 PM

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And Sylvanas is lying to herself in 3rd person too

austere gazelle Nov 14, 2019, 1:44 PM

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They opened a whole can of worms xD

calm garden Nov 14, 2019, 1:46 PM

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i mean sylvanas has techicly replaced the lich king in terms of wanting everything dead

smoky mural Nov 14, 2019, 1:50 PM

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No in before the storm she in the third person says she doesn't want to be warchief doesn't know what made Voljin choose her

tall thunder Nov 14, 2019, 1:52 PM

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I have no idea where the heck Blizz is going with Sylvanas and so I’ve resigned myself to just watching and hoping for the best

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It’s very hard to parse through everything to get all the context at this point

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And then Teldrassil has to be a thing

smoky mural Nov 14, 2019, 1:56 PM

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I have expected the worst for all of bfa and they still found a way to make it worse than I expected

round lake Nov 14, 2019, 1:57 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/sad-tantrum-angry-gif-3532235

Tenor

When you're so sad that there's nothing to do but tantrum 으앙 우앵

▶ Play video

tall thunder Nov 14, 2019, 2:46 PM

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The writing on Sylvanas is just all over the damn place like writing team can’t agree if they want her to be evil or not

dense plover Nov 14, 2019, 2:51 PM

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It’s not that bad

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They definitely want her to be evil-ish

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She is doing bad things

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We don’t know fully why yet

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Illidan was sorta similar in BC

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Did a lot of bad things and we didn’t really find out why until Legion

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At least we don’t have to wait 10 years like with Illidan

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@normal niche did you mix up the channels?

normal niche Nov 14, 2019, 3:02 PM

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I don't think this is supposed to go on Retail-Wow

smoky mural Nov 14, 2019, 3:05 PM

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I am not talking about Sylvanas in general right now all of the story is bad at the moment
Freed Old gods are done
Faction war didn't even end
Forsaken, nelfs and zandalari got shit on

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Now we also have lich King just die

dark furnace Nov 14, 2019, 3:09 PM

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He didn't die

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He is a key character this expansion

smoky mural Nov 14, 2019, 3:10 PM

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Bolvar didn't

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The lichking was the helm

zealous basalt Nov 14, 2019, 3:14 PM

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It's not like we are going to need it

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I think this is just making new stuff so we start getting rid of old limitations in story

smoky mural Nov 14, 2019, 3:18 PM

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Yes but whit how they built nzoth being free as a big deal then yeet him the next patch doesn't give me hope for the future

zealous basalt Nov 14, 2019, 3:23 PM

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That's what we know

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For all purposes they might be planning something else with Nzoth

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He isn't dead yet

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Just like how Sargeras and Illidan are in a standby mode

round lake Nov 14, 2019, 3:30 PM

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We wont lose, we always "yeet" something or someone, if they could ever make losing interesting please bring it on

tall thunder Nov 14, 2019, 3:32 PM

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I’m still not over the joke someone made in Youtube comments that Sylvanas didn’t put on the helm because she’s a hunter and can’t wear plate

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So she disenchanted it instead

mighty wolf Nov 14, 2019, 4:52 PM

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Mor'gul Murlocs? Lord of the Rings?

strange falcon Nov 14, 2019, 4:53 PM

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https://www.wowhead.com/news=296191/warcraft-iii-reforged-models-morgul-murlocs?webhook for reference

Wowhead

Warcraft III Reforged Models - Mor'gul Murlocs

In this article, we will highlight the new models for Mor'gul in Warcraft III Reforged. The Mor'gul are a race of Murlocs that have been enslaved by the Naga in The Frozen Throne expansion. They are used by Naga both as labor and military power.

tropic trail Nov 14, 2019, 7:39 PM

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Honestly the best part about bfa was the start when Slyvanas burned down the tree and everyone was trying to figure out who did it but it was her the whole time and it threw the factions against each other. Then it died out and the faction war ended because people didn’t care anymore that’s just me

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Faction war got old hella fast. I remember hunting horde down and murdering them to just running up to them and waving and running to finish my quest lol

uncut vault Nov 14, 2019, 7:45 PM

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It got old fast because absolutely nothing was new or interesting about it

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they just did MoP's story again with different characters

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sometimes not even with different characters

cyan prairie Nov 14, 2019, 8:03 PM

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The best part of BfA was how many memes we got

dense plover Nov 14, 2019, 8:03 PM

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bfa had some good systems

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the implementation sucked

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for example

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islands were cool

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but having to do them before the other group beat you sucked

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they couldve been focused on exploration

cyan prairie Nov 14, 2019, 8:04 PM

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the bad system were Warmode rewards

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alliance got rewarded for being crybabies

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Warmode should have no % buffs at all

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you want WPVP? - ok

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you don't want? - ok

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I liked the idea of Warfronts, but they were just missing one important thing

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Actual challenge

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it felt more like an instanced quest

indigo laurel Nov 14, 2019, 8:06 PM

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I think Warfronts could have been a cooler feature then they were

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I even think it would have been more fun as a PvP mode then islands, just saying

cyan prairie Nov 14, 2019, 8:07 PM

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i wouldn't mind even Mythic Warfronts

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that would actually require more thinking, than just gathering a full raid of 440s to nuke it like Normal Warfronts some time ago

indigo laurel Nov 14, 2019, 8:08 PM

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Kinda like an Base-Building MOBA with 20 players per side and more special effects sounds cool.

cyan prairie Nov 14, 2019, 8:08 PM

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and still

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we didn't get the T3 Aspirant recolors

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the only T3 that's missing

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tbh i expected this recolor

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to drop from HC warfronts

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but for whatever reason it isn't

tropic trail Nov 14, 2019, 8:36 PM

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Islands should of been like the shadowlands tower tbh, besides being endless just always different lol

cyan prairie Nov 14, 2019, 8:37 PM

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they kinda are different each time, depending on the invasion you get

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but the issue is that it doesn't really change anything

tropic trail Nov 14, 2019, 8:37 PM

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I guess maybe because I’ve grinded from 65-70 in islands it just looks the same lol

normal niche Nov 14, 2019, 8:38 PM

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Bfa?

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Battle for Azerite?

tropic trail Nov 14, 2019, 8:43 PM

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We just need dadgar and everything will be better

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Like if we don’t see him in shadowlands I’m just gonna assume his ass just decided to quit.

cyan prairie Nov 14, 2019, 8:45 PM

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Champion! Bring me 221874801274021087 more Anima Power Shards to complete the another quest!

tranquil steeple Nov 14, 2019, 8:45 PM

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So long as we can avoid Dalaran, I'm fine with bringing Khadgar along

cyan prairie Nov 14, 2019, 8:46 PM

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Imagine the new city being Kyrian-themed

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but with whole layout of buildings

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being based on Dalaran

tranquil steeple Nov 14, 2019, 8:47 PM

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Which is also fine with me, so long as it's not Dalaran... and only based on it.

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If we're gonna have Dalaran, we better also have Rhonin doing the Ulduar event, going "CITIZENS OF DALARAN"

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Kapppppa

dense plover Nov 14, 2019, 9:11 PM

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it wont be kyrian themed

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its going to be uniquely neutral

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thats what makes oribos so interesting

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its the meeting place for all of the zones where the inhabitants can visit each other and such

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its not kyrian or any of the other cultures, its unique

cyan prairie Nov 14, 2019, 9:21 PM

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maybe it'll be themed after the preorder armor set we got?

dense plover Nov 14, 2019, 9:38 PM

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probably

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with like

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some of the asset palette they previewed

dense plover Nov 14, 2019, 9:54 PM

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crafted my void focus - followup quest

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zealous basalt Nov 14, 2019, 9:56 PM

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Whats Dat for

cyan prairie Nov 14, 2019, 10:02 PM

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probably like EP forge

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to craft better gear from professions

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requires you to kill X bosses to get Y items, to upgrade the forge so you can make HC and then Mythic items

dense plover Nov 14, 2019, 10:12 PM

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^

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1st tier requires no bosses

dense plover Nov 14, 2019, 11:48 PM

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ptr is apparently shutting down @ionic terrace

ionic terrace Nov 14, 2019, 11:57 PM

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:O?

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can check

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sec

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Nope they are up @dense plover

dense plover Nov 14, 2019, 11:58 PM

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ok

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during mogu invasion, mantid are prepping

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so far they are the only ones who are using azerite in the vale

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limber mural Nov 15, 2019, 12:19 AM

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Is there any explanation as to why the mantid are kinda making moves now? Or are they still counting this as their once-per-hundred-years warpath that started in mop

dense plover Nov 15, 2019, 12:21 AM

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they have a new empress

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she wants azerite

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and they are working with nzoth

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and he wants the vale

limber mural Nov 15, 2019, 12:22 AM

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so the 'let's attack once every 100 years' plan kinda uh

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went out the window

dense plover Nov 15, 2019, 12:22 AM

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when nzoth was freed?

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yes

limber mural Nov 15, 2019, 12:40 AM

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right. k

worn crown Nov 15, 2019, 12:50 AM

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The same thing happened when Garrosh used the heart of Y'shaarj. They always do something when an old god awakes (or their artifacts).

uncut vault Nov 15, 2019, 2:38 AM

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They kinda ignored the logistics of the 100 year cycle

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They spent their numbers massively only three years ago

dense plover Nov 15, 2019, 2:38 AM

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well no

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so mantid store their best warriors in amber

uncut vault Nov 15, 2019, 2:39 AM

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Old god empowerment only does so much

dense plover Nov 15, 2019, 2:39 AM

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they will break them out, outside of the 100 year cycle

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if they are needed

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an old god being freed is definitely one of those reasons

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also, a new empress probably means new brood

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especially if you introduce azerite

austere gazelle Nov 15, 2019, 7:29 AM

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A remember when I was saying the same thing on this channel few month ago someone trashed me for criticizing blizzard writing xD

cyan prairie Nov 15, 2019, 9:56 AM

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Ppl hated Dalaran for being laggy

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But we don't know how laggy will the new city be

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Does anyone expect them to do some better optimalization?

hasty tendon Nov 15, 2019, 10:33 AM

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Well, there's another way of looking at it.

Shek'zeer attacked too early out of fear, not respecting the cycle.

It was the Klaxxi's job to put her down for that and instate a new queen.

What we learn from that is that the Klaxxi are effectively the ones in charge of putting down aberrant Queens

The Klaxxi are probably too weak to do that after we killed all the Paragons they'd been storing.

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So there's basically just no bug police right now and the new Empress can do whatever she wants.

cyan prairie Nov 15, 2019, 10:48 AM

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Since the Mantids serve N'zoth now, do Qiraji and Silithids do the same?

warm wren Nov 15, 2019, 11:28 AM

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It's possible that, without their original Old God masters being active (or "alive), they probably follow the next strongest void being on Azeroth, in this case N'zoth.

slender summit Nov 15, 2019, 6:41 PM

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Guys

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Just realized

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With N'Zoth dead

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Sargeras' mission will be complete

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Since his mission was to stop Azeroth from being corrupted by the old gods and becoming a Corrupted Titan

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So

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In conclusion

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Sargeras = good in 8.3/9.0?

dense plover Nov 15, 2019, 6:42 PM

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No it won’t. She is still open to corruption in the future

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The reason sargeras was killing planets was to avoid them ever being corrupted

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He wanted to wipe the universe clean

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So that the void lords can’t do anything

slender summit Nov 15, 2019, 6:43 PM

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Didnt he only destroy planets with old gods on them?

dense plover Nov 15, 2019, 6:43 PM

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No

slender summit Nov 15, 2019, 6:43 PM

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Aw

tranquil steeple Nov 15, 2019, 6:43 PM

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Titan planets too

slender summit Nov 15, 2019, 6:43 PM

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Man

dense plover Nov 15, 2019, 6:43 PM

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He was destroying all planets with titans

slender summit Nov 15, 2019, 6:43 PM

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I wanted to see Sargeras on our side again :(

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Or well

tranquil steeple Nov 15, 2019, 6:43 PM

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Or pretty much Titan planets exclusively, while also dealing with Old Gods (or their minions) if he got the chance

slender summit Nov 15, 2019, 6:44 PM

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The mortal races didnt exist when he was good (I think) bit still

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I kind of have a feeling that they're gonna forget about Illidan and Sarg for 4ish years and then he'll be main focus in 2 or 3 expacs.

austere gazelle Nov 15, 2019, 6:50 PM

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the void lords can still send us other old gods. And I suspect that's what will happen. Massive old gods swarm coming at us.

zealous basalt Nov 15, 2019, 7:31 PM

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Wtb something to decrease all corruption by half

dense plover Nov 15, 2019, 7:37 PM

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It’s called corruption resistance

zealous basalt Nov 15, 2019, 7:38 PM

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I mean yes

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dat what i mean

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But like earn something after doing raids that halves all incoming corruption and its appart from your general resistance

tall thunder Nov 15, 2019, 7:39 PM

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I'm half expecting an old god that literally looks like that awful bone octopus to appear in Shadowlands

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📎 image0.jpg

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and these as trash mobs

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menacing crackly bone tentacles

ancient jasper Nov 15, 2019, 8:39 PM

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Wonder what the chances are of us ever getting Heirloom Boots/Gloves.. Hm

novel zodiac Nov 15, 2019, 8:41 PM

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We will definetly see Sargeras again, he's the next "Break in case of emergency" character

tall thunder Nov 15, 2019, 8:50 PM

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I hope we do because WoW is weird without demons to beat up

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you totally can't tell I'm a DH main

velvet wind Nov 15, 2019, 9:27 PM

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Now you know how us ez-Scourge bois feel

tall thunder Nov 15, 2019, 9:33 PM

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pffff, at least you still get zombies here and there >;P

ancient jasper Nov 16, 2019, 3:16 AM

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Blizzard just needs to let Demon Hunters become even more Demon. Let us have Hooves and tails. 😆

cyan prairie Nov 16, 2019, 7:22 AM

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am i the only one who would rather get a mount that just enables Meta on DH and makes us fly using our own wings, instead of that Felbat as a class mount?

ancient jasper Nov 16, 2019, 7:38 AM

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Nope definitely not the only one. I was REALLY hoping DH Class Mount was them allowing us to use our Wings.

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Sadly.. never happened.

ivory meadow Nov 16, 2019, 9:12 AM

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I guess everyone has forgotten that Xal'atath is still alive.

tropic trail Nov 16, 2019, 9:36 AM

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she and azshara are gonna come back for the light vs void xpac in 10.0

cyan prairie Nov 16, 2019, 10:12 AM

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is the KamehameHEARTOFAZEROTH scene really gone from PTR?

strange falcon Nov 16, 2019, 10:41 AM

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idk,seems so,really wouldnt be the first time they trolled us with datamined stuff

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we've seen it more than 5 times just in bfa alone

cyan prairie Nov 16, 2019, 10:44 AM

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yeah, they hid all other important scenes for long

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like, they laughed at people datamining

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telling them that no matter how much they'll try, they won't find the most important things (like they did with 8.2.5 cinematics)

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and i guess N'zoth death IS important

strange falcon Nov 16, 2019, 10:46 AM

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well,blizzard is a multibillionaire company,if they REALLY want to hide something

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it's not like we have worldclass hackers working on datamining

cyan prairie Nov 16, 2019, 10:46 AM

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yeah

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also

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they wouldn't put it there, if they didn't want people to find it

strange falcon Nov 16, 2019, 10:48 AM

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yeah,im sure they have a dev-test server

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thats only internal

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like 99% of companies,including warframe :p

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and they might even be keeping major stuff we dont even know about hidden

cyan prairie Nov 16, 2019, 10:51 AM

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yeah, i think the same

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especially about raids

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they allow people just to test a part of a raid

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but other stuff, like end phase of a certain boss is allowed just for the special testing team

strange falcon Nov 16, 2019, 10:52 AM

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to bring up a more recent example,in the bfa alpha/beta when they did the first raid test for uldir

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was one of the very few ive participated in

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and at some point a GameMaster appeared

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by the name of Hiddenscott(i have the picture saved but not on here)

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and he was playing a vulpera,with tooltip proving that too,and as soon as wowhead made a post of "vulpera in the files categorized as playable" literally a day after it was taken out in an hotfix

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and they were put back in the "creatures" section

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so they could be hiding all sorts of stuff

pulsar iris Nov 16, 2019, 1:06 PM

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took this long to get vulpera because GM was a asshole? Kappa

cyan prairie Nov 16, 2019, 2:38 PM

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I just realised - if we go to Shadowlands in next expansion, does it mean that we actually somehow heal Azeroth enough, to leave it without any bigger issues?

dense plover Nov 16, 2019, 3:26 PM

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probably?

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sword probably isnt going away

cyan prairie Nov 16, 2019, 3:37 PM

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yeah, idk what kind of power we would need to remove it

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or if even removing it is a good idea at all

novel zodiac Nov 16, 2019, 3:38 PM

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i don't think that removing the sword is a good idea

tranquil steeple Nov 16, 2019, 3:39 PM

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most likely worst idea, or among one of the worst at least

novel zodiac Nov 16, 2019, 3:39 PM

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in the end it doesn't matter if we fully heal azeroth, when we get back from Shadowlands all the world is gonna get fucked up again for plot

cyan prairie Nov 16, 2019, 3:39 PM

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i just imagined "healing" Azeroth like the Pandaren starting scenario

novel zodiac Nov 16, 2019, 3:39 PM

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they were healing a turtle

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it's not the same

cyan prairie Nov 16, 2019, 3:39 PM

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i mean

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planting explosives around the sword

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to remove it xD

tranquil steeple Nov 16, 2019, 3:40 PM

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that.. would just create holes from the explosions

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and probably won't even have an effect on the sword itself

cyan prairie Nov 16, 2019, 3:42 PM

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i guess that to remove the sword, we'd need Sargeras to do it

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if we're ever going to remove it

tranquil steeple Nov 16, 2019, 3:43 PM

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or the other titans from the Pantheon

novel zodiac Nov 16, 2019, 3:45 PM

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they had the chance to do it

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but they chose not to

cyan prairie Nov 16, 2019, 3:50 PM

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i guess it'd require them to use some of their power

jade basalt Nov 16, 2019, 3:50 PM

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@cyan prairie As of 8.3, Azeroth is back to normal and perfectly fine according to Magni and MOTHER.

dense plover Nov 16, 2019, 3:51 PM

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i do not think thats correct

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if that were the case, why do the mantid have so much azerite?

jade basalt Nov 16, 2019, 3:51 PM

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They've gathered it before we fixed Azeroth.

dense plover Nov 16, 2019, 3:52 PM

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so essentially the work we did over the expac worked?

tranquil steeple Nov 16, 2019, 3:52 PM

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Well, as far back to normal as possible with the sword still there

jade basalt Nov 16, 2019, 3:52 PM

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Yup. And we removed all corruption.

tranquil steeple Nov 16, 2019, 3:52 PM

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but no longer bleeding

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I imagine?

tall thunder Nov 16, 2019, 3:52 PM

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Azeroth is cauterized

jade basalt Nov 16, 2019, 3:52 PM

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As for the sword, it's probably mostly harmless now, she's stopped bleeding it seems, and we've removed its magic.

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So it's more like healing over a splinter or something.

tall thunder Nov 16, 2019, 3:52 PM

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the sword is there because you don't want to remove a blade from a wound without proper measures to stop the bleeding

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I feel like it'd be more trouble than it's worth though

tranquil steeple Nov 16, 2019, 3:53 PM

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Just wanted that cleared up 'cause

distant folio Nov 16, 2019, 3:53 PM

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I imagine the sword is now no different than, say, humans digging super deep or building a big construct underground.

tranquil steeple Nov 16, 2019, 3:53 PM

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for a moment it almost seemed like you implied that the Sword was gone in 8.3, which would be... suffice to say, weird.

tall thunder Nov 16, 2019, 3:53 PM

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probably would cause even more damage coming out than going in

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and yeah

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a regular old sword is just another scrape for a planet

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it'll just be buried away eventually

distant folio Nov 16, 2019, 3:54 PM

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hell, the titans built gigantic facilities even deeper than anything we can imagine

tall thunder Nov 16, 2019, 3:54 PM

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no point risking hurting Azeroth when she's fine now

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as we say in medicine

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don't fix what isn't broken

distant folio Nov 16, 2019, 3:55 PM

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so yeah, just some harmless construct which she healed over anyway

tall thunder Nov 16, 2019, 3:56 PM

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I wonder what would happen the day Azeroth is ready to "hatch"?

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How are Titans even born from planets anyway?

dense plover Nov 16, 2019, 3:56 PM

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they destroy the planet

tall thunder Nov 16, 2019, 3:56 PM

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I'm not sure if it was explained

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Was that was Argus did?

dense plover Nov 16, 2019, 3:57 PM

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argus is the closest we have gotten to seeing what happens

tall thunder Nov 16, 2019, 3:57 PM

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I haven't done Antorus

dense plover Nov 16, 2019, 3:57 PM

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argus exploded out of the planet

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thats why its shattered

tall thunder Nov 16, 2019, 3:57 PM

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KABOOM

distant folio Nov 16, 2019, 3:57 PM

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he didn't explode wtf?

tranquil steeple Nov 16, 2019, 3:57 PM

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Pretty much, yeah. Except for us players we can still go to the Argus zones 'cause game content

jade basalt Nov 16, 2019, 3:57 PM

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Argus didn't explode out the planet, in fact he was still inside the planet. The planet was shattered by fel and the Legion. Argus was still inside.

tall thunder Nov 16, 2019, 3:57 PM

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question is whether that's typical or the result of him being so horrifically corrupted he doesn't care

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ah

dense plover Nov 16, 2019, 3:58 PM

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oh

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then i guess we dont really know

tall thunder Nov 16, 2019, 3:58 PM

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that makes sense because I feel like a Titan would exit more cautiously

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they could probably phase out or something (can Titans phase or teleport?)

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Wait dumb question

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Odyn literally teleported and he's a Titan Watcher (of sorts)

jade basalt Nov 16, 2019, 3:59 PM

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We really don't know. I doubt it'd be a catastrophic event to be honest, but it's possible.
Maybe they crack the planet open like an egg.
Maybe the planet "morphs" into a humanoid body.
Maybe they just get out of the planet ethereally.
etc.

tall thunder Nov 16, 2019, 3:59 PM

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maybe depends on whether life still exists

distant folio Nov 16, 2019, 3:59 PM

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yeah titans seem to have an ethereal "cloud" form, I imagine that's what happens when they mature, they "manifest" outside the planet

tall thunder Nov 16, 2019, 3:59 PM

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Azeroth still has forever to go before she's done maturing anyways

tranquil steeple Nov 16, 2019, 4:00 PM

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I guess it could vary depending on a serious fuckton of circumstances

tall thunder Nov 16, 2019, 4:00 PM

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though it would be neat if we can see how she'd look

tranquil steeple Nov 16, 2019, 4:01 PM

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For example, planet size might play a part in how broken the planet itself might be when the Titan is born from it

jade basalt Nov 16, 2019, 4:01 PM

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Argus' state is most likely due to 25 000 years of fel shenanigans and Sargeras bathing the entire planet in fel when he showed up. In fact the fel saturation is so high that Argus became part of the Twisting Nether, literally pierced the veil between Great Dark and Nether.

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Also probably due to Sargeras and the demons torturing and corrupting the world-soul for 25 000 years.

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Just like how Azeroth being hurt led to physical consequences for the planet.

cyan prairie Nov 16, 2019, 4:02 PM

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btw, back to some 8.3 stuff - do we know what role will Velonara play?

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she got some new dialogue

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and seems like she isn't happy with what Sylvanas did

tranquil steeple Nov 16, 2019, 4:04 PM

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Could be something that carries on to the Scarlet Monastery stuff we saw

distant folio Nov 16, 2019, 4:04 PM

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that's it as far as we know, just some dialogue about her and most dark rangers no longer following sylvanas

tranquil steeple Nov 16, 2019, 4:04 PM

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Unless we already did whatever about that already

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I didn't pay much attention to it

distant folio Nov 16, 2019, 4:04 PM

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nope we still haven't!

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maybe it was scrapped

cyan prairie Nov 16, 2019, 4:05 PM

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wasn't the scarlet monastery stuff found before even 8.1 started?

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like, we knew that something will happen there

tall thunder Nov 16, 2019, 4:05 PM

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You know, if you really think about it, World Souls are pretty much Titan children.

And Argus was so vicious because was tortured and abused for years and years.

cyan prairie Nov 16, 2019, 4:05 PM

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but it never actually happened

tranquil steeple Nov 16, 2019, 4:05 PM

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I think it was during 8.2, or 8.1.5 datamining?

tall thunder Nov 16, 2019, 4:05 PM

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it's really depressing when you look at Argus that way

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because he's pretty much a child abuse victim

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a very powerful child that got abused

cyan prairie Nov 16, 2019, 4:06 PM

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maybe they'll try to make her the new Forsaken leader?

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if Calia doesn't do it

tranquil steeple Nov 16, 2019, 4:07 PM

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iirc Calia just wants to help the Forsaken out after Sylvanas GTFO'd, but not lead

tall thunder Nov 16, 2019, 4:07 PM

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I really hope Calia doesn't take over

cyan prairie Nov 16, 2019, 4:07 PM

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yeah, just like Lilian Voss

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help, but not lead them

jade basalt Nov 16, 2019, 4:07 PM

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If you look at his model closely, you'll notice he is bound, and has spikes running through his limbs.

https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/638284.jpg
https://gamepedia.cursecdn.com/wowpedia/6/6f/Argus_the_Unmaker_concept.jpg?version=cd466788ad855ba5b17231dba0e93edd

tall thunder Nov 16, 2019, 4:07 PM

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if we have to have an Alliance character take over, Derek would fit better

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but

cyan prairie Nov 16, 2019, 4:08 PM

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didn't we talk about his design some time ago?

tall thunder Nov 16, 2019, 4:08 PM

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he doesn't know anyone

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all I see going for him is that he's learning to cope

jade basalt Nov 16, 2019, 4:08 PM

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His "armor" is more like a small torturing device.

tall thunder Nov 16, 2019, 4:08 PM

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and I doubt he'd want to leave his family anyway

cyan prairie Nov 16, 2019, 4:08 PM

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i don't want any alliance filth in my faction

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they can keep him

tall thunder Nov 16, 2019, 4:08 PM

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but I hope Blizz develops Derek more regardless

cyan prairie Nov 16, 2019, 4:08 PM

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i don't think there's much they can do for him

tall thunder Nov 16, 2019, 4:09 PM

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it's interesting to see what happens if an Undead is given support from@the start

jade basalt Nov 16, 2019, 4:09 PM

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And the cracks on his armor? That's his blood. https://i.imgur.com/UZ4j5TX.png

Imgur

cyan prairie Nov 16, 2019, 4:09 PM

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we already saw it

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from Zelling

tall thunder Nov 16, 2019, 4:09 PM

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Zelling was rejected by his family and that was depressing af

distant folio Nov 16, 2019, 4:09 PM

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dang argus' model is real dark

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never noticed

tall thunder Nov 16, 2019, 4:09 PM

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I wish they didn't kill him off

cyan prairie Nov 16, 2019, 4:09 PM

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but he was happy with being able to protect his family anyway

tall thunder Nov 16, 2019, 4:09 PM

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so guess Derek is the new example 🙃

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yeah

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I wish we could go and check on them with Lilian

cyan prairie Nov 16, 2019, 4:10 PM

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she says that they're fine

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and that she stole some gold and gave it to them

jade basalt Nov 16, 2019, 4:10 PM

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Even his helm is "fastened" to his body using spikes that wound him. https://i.imgur.com/TnlTzN7.png

Imgur

cyan prairie Nov 16, 2019, 4:10 PM

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so they can buy a house and live there safely

tall thunder Nov 16, 2019, 4:10 PM

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nah, I just want to see the whole post-death thing

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Lilian said she's going to make sure they know he died(again) a hero

cyan prairie Nov 16, 2019, 4:11 PM

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we might get some "ending" in 8.3.5

tall thunder Nov 16, 2019, 4:11 PM

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here's hoping

cyan prairie Nov 16, 2019, 4:11 PM

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to close some story parts

tall thunder Nov 16, 2019, 4:11 PM

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hmm, I wonder if we can find Zelling in Shadowlands?

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he was the only thing I liked about the War Campaign

cyan prairie Nov 16, 2019, 4:11 PM

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yeah... in the Maw

tall thunder Nov 16, 2019, 4:12 PM

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brb

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getting some jailbreak gear

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he's coming with me

cyan prairie Nov 16, 2019, 4:12 PM

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i wonder where would Garrosh go if he died

tall thunder Nov 16, 2019, 4:12 PM

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I'm just gonna sling him and run

cyan prairie Nov 16, 2019, 4:12 PM

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maybe Revendreth?

tall thunder Nov 16, 2019, 4:12 PM

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he's probably deep in the Maw, but Revendreth would be nice

cyan prairie Nov 16, 2019, 4:12 PM

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i don't think he'd go to the Maw

tall thunder Nov 16, 2019, 4:12 PM

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I want to see Garrosh developed the other way

cyan prairie Nov 16, 2019, 4:13 PM

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he was kinda like Kael'thas with what he did

tall thunder Nov 16, 2019, 4:13 PM

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I think it's more Arthas really with his storyarc

cyan prairie Nov 16, 2019, 4:13 PM

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i'd put Arthas in the maw

tall thunder Nov 16, 2019, 4:13 PM

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yeesh, Blizz retold Arthas' story twice now

cyan prairie Nov 16, 2019, 4:13 PM

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and Garithos

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and Aedalas

tall thunder Nov 16, 2019, 4:13 PM

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and the other two times were both Horde 😒

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Stop rehashing Arthas already

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let him REST

uncut vault Nov 16, 2019, 4:14 PM

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Garithos is likely in Revendreth

tall thunder Nov 16, 2019, 4:14 PM

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yeah

uncut vault Nov 16, 2019, 4:14 PM

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Kael’thas is hunting down something from his past that we help him with

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That something is probably garithos

tall thunder Nov 16, 2019, 4:14 PM

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Garithos isn't a totally evil scumbag, even jf he did do bad things

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his xenophobia was motivated by revenge

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he blamed the elves for not helping his people when they needed them

cyan prairie Nov 16, 2019, 4:14 PM

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what aboud Aedalas? this guy doesn't deserve even to go to Revendreth

tall thunder Nov 16, 2019, 4:15 PM

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though not sure why he hates dwarves too

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what did dwarves and gnomes do to him?

cyan prairie Nov 16, 2019, 4:15 PM

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one answer - he's a racist

uncut vault Nov 16, 2019, 4:15 PM

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"Kael’thas, who pursues vengeance on an enemy from his past while confined to Revendreth for the crimes he committed in life."

tall thunder Nov 16, 2019, 4:15 PM

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👀

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either Arthas or Garithos

uncut vault Nov 16, 2019, 4:16 PM

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He probably hates dwarves for the same reason as elves, dwarves were forced to hole up in ironforge and not help much in the second war, Wildhammer aside

tall thunder Nov 16, 2019, 4:16 PM

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yeah, probably

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it's stupid really, but when were humans ever logical?

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bigotry happens and it's stupid

uncut vault Nov 16, 2019, 4:17 PM

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I do hope the enemy he’s hunting is garithos

tall thunder Nov 16, 2019, 4:17 PM

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if Garithos' arc is gonna involve him realizing the error of his ways, that'd be nice.

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otherwise, he can eat my ass

uncut vault Nov 16, 2019, 4:17 PM

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Because he has literally never been mentioned in WoW, ever

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So it would be nice for that campaign to be acknowledged

tall thunder Nov 16, 2019, 4:17 PM

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eat my filthy belf ass seasoned with fel

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yeah

cyan prairie Nov 16, 2019, 4:18 PM

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imagine fighting Daelin as a trash mob in Torghast

tall thunder Nov 16, 2019, 4:18 PM

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I feel like a lot of people who think belves should have been Alliance don't know about Garithos

#

Daelin seems like he'd be in Revendreth

uncut vault Nov 16, 2019, 4:18 PM

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The excuse they made in TBC for belfs not joining the alliance was terrible, having garithos remnants fighting against them, maybe with some alliance support, would have made more sense than nelfs

tall thunder Nov 16, 2019, 4:18 PM

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since he did the bad things out of an old grudge

cyan prairie Nov 16, 2019, 4:19 PM

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it's not like alliance sent spies to Silvermoon immediately after TBC started...

tall thunder Nov 16, 2019, 4:19 PM

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Kael got burned a lot by Alliance anyway in WC3

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why the heck would he agree at all to working with the same people who made it clear his people aren't welcome?

#

I like the background for blood elves, tbh

cyan prairie Nov 16, 2019, 4:20 PM

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it's not that people don't understand why a certain race joins a certain faction

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they just don't WANT to understand it

tall thunder Nov 16, 2019, 4:20 PM

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tru

cyan prairie Nov 16, 2019, 4:20 PM

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they think that they know better

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but they don't

tall thunder Nov 16, 2019, 4:21 PM

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iirc, high elves weren't too fond of blood elves because of the choices they made

cyan prairie Nov 16, 2019, 4:21 PM

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tbh i wonder if Kael'thas got changed into one of the Venthyr after going to Revendreth

tall thunder Nov 16, 2019, 4:22 PM

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blood elves just did whatever they had to to survive, for better or worse

#

I kinda liked that theme tbh; the moral grayness that was in BC according to what I've heard of their original content

#

Kael had to do questionable things to keep his people alive

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but kept them going he did

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Life's about the hard choices, really

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the moral crossroads

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no right answer when it comes to survival

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but anyways

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I just want Blizz to stop beating the double/triple/quadruple dead Arthas Arc Horse already

#

come up with something new already

cyan prairie Nov 16, 2019, 4:27 PM

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i hope we won't see Arthas in SL

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or at least, not too much of him

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btw did i see it correctly - they Blacksmith that made Helm of Domination and the Frostmoune is the same guy that will make Legendaries for us?

uncut vault Nov 16, 2019, 4:32 PM

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We don’t know if it will be the same person, I don’t think, but it will be the same forge

cyan prairie Nov 16, 2019, 4:33 PM

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it would be interesting if it was him

tropic trail Nov 16, 2019, 5:33 PM

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@tall thunder so you asked if we'll see Bwonsamdi? We will in a dungeon somewhere in HIS part of the SLs

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that's all we know

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if this was already answered and I pinned you twice for no reason, I am very sorry

tall thunder Nov 16, 2019, 5:45 PM

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Nice

limber mural Nov 17, 2019, 12:06 AM

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dungeon's called De Other Side iirc

strange falcon Nov 17, 2019, 12:22 AM

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that is correct

uncut lintel Nov 17, 2019, 12:54 AM

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Cause I got friends on De Other Side!!!

jade basalt Nov 17, 2019, 3:14 AM

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It's actually called The Other Side.

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That's probably my most pedantic comment but I thought it'd be funny..!

distant folio Nov 17, 2019, 3:15 AM

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lmao

jade basalt Nov 17, 2019, 3:15 AM

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And the dungeon entrance is somewhere in Ardenweald

tall thunder Nov 17, 2019, 5:05 PM

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hell yeah for Fallacier joke

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Bwomsamdi is legit what would happen if you threw Hades, Ryuk, and a dash of Fallacier in a blender

ionic terrace Nov 17, 2019, 8:34 PM

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@dense plover mantid thing is up in vale

dense plover Nov 17, 2019, 8:40 PM

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ill have to try tonight

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i dont have time for a bit

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how long is it up for?

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3 days?

ionic terrace Nov 17, 2019, 8:47 PM

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1 day 19 hours

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📎 unknown.png

ionic terrace Nov 17, 2019, 9:46 PM

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The Klaxxi are corrupted by N'zoth, ofc

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Somehow one of the dead Council Members is alive again

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Two

strange falcon Nov 17, 2019, 9:48 PM

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Though a few interviews a few months back said only a few of these sidequests from islands would get development in the immediate future

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Not all

ionic terrace Nov 17, 2019, 9:48 PM

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Ok three

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Four...

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Well we do know the new empress is a world boss

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No idea where though

jade basalt Nov 17, 2019, 9:55 PM

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We already know the Mantid quest has a follow up. The queen is a world boss in the Vale of Eternal Blossoms in 8.3:

With the awakening of N'Zoth, Shek'zara, empress of the mantid, pledged her swarm to the old god's will. In service of her dark master, she unleashed her forces upon the Vale of Eternal Blossoms to claim Pandaria in N'Zoth's name.

ionic terrace Nov 17, 2019, 9:55 PM

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I want to say Vale...

fathom vapor Nov 18, 2019, 12:54 AM

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dead council?

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and the mantid arent corrupted, they willingly follow the old gods and embrace their return

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the exception was the sha because they didn't know it was an old god corruption after yshaarj died

dense plover Nov 18, 2019, 1:03 AM

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im fairly certain they knew

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there are quests where you hear the mantid talk about trying to bring yshaarj back

fathom vapor Nov 18, 2019, 1:05 AM

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they knew he was dead but should the old ones return they would join them

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but they weren't cool with the corruption and it's effects on the empress' premature swarm and the eggs hatching more mantids were being potentially ruined by it

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even though no, it was going awesome until they said the outsiders should help kill more mantid, stronger and better mantid. stupid bug guys lol

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I mean, I LOVED the klaxxi reputation and the race themselves but it seemed so weird they were uncool with corruption

dense plover Nov 18, 2019, 1:07 AM

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it made some sense

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theres a difference between managed and unmanaged corruption

fathom vapor Nov 18, 2019, 1:09 AM

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either way they seemed to just not like it in general rather than embrace it

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but now they are just regular mantids just swarming because N'zoth returned, and they love eyeball teeth tentacles

ionic terrace Nov 18, 2019, 1:40 AM

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The big klaxxi in the middle of Klaxxi'vess

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@fathom vapor

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Klaxxi'va Kek, Kor, ect

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Either it's a retcon or they came back from the dead

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or Blizz didn't realize they died 😛

distant folio Nov 18, 2019, 1:48 AM

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wait, they came back? where do you see that?

ionic terrace Nov 18, 2019, 2:00 AM

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Quest chain during Mantid invasion in Vale

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I'm not sure if they are there without the quest

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Nope

fathom vapor Nov 18, 2019, 2:36 AM

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which klaxxi? one of the main council guys who just hangs in the middle and did like, nothing? lol

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cause all the paragons died in siege, but they foreshadowed that they, probably meaning the mantid, would return

storm marsh Nov 18, 2019, 2:56 AM

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Looking forward to next build with ARs DKs playable and that new eye glow. Hopefully we can expect one tomorrow night (Eu)

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(I mean I hope they're playable next build with new stuff added)

ionic terrace Nov 18, 2019, 3:05 AM

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Yeah pretty much

zealous basalt Nov 18, 2019, 3:09 AM

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Pretty much what

ionic terrace Nov 18, 2019, 3:14 AM

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pretty much the big council dudes that do nothng

cyan prairie Nov 18, 2019, 6:03 AM

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They are like all alliance leaders that aren't Anduin. They exist and... Yeah i think that's all they do.

cyan prairie Nov 18, 2019, 11:12 AM

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Any ideas what will happen with the Nagas after N'zoth's death? Will they keep fighting us, or will they be friendly now etc?

obtuse vine Nov 18, 2019, 11:15 AM

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Well in the Vulpera unlock scenario we learn that the Naga are advancing in Zuldazar

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But that’s before the death of N’zoth I think

cyan prairie Nov 18, 2019, 11:19 AM

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Yup

obtuse vine Nov 18, 2019, 11:19 AM

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I mean Azshara escapes... so she will probably lead them, unless she shows up at the end of the raid to sacrifice herself or something

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Which I hope doesn’t happen

cyan prairie Nov 18, 2019, 11:20 AM

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Well we save her life in the raid so i guess she should be friendly towards us

obtuse vine Nov 18, 2019, 12:42 PM

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Well I hope she’s a neutral evil, like Bolvar was in legion, doing some shady stuff but friendly towards the player, I wouldn’t want her to be like best friends with the horde or alliance, but I do love her and I hope she’s not a villain again

terse patrol Nov 18, 2019, 2:40 PM

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Well we know some naga have betrayed her or something for N’zoth.

limber mural Nov 19, 2019, 12:55 AM

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I was expecting a Nzoth fight to go like the ending of Kid Icarus uprising

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Since we've only ever cheaped out an Old God, I expected something like 'we lose, ggs' and then azshara suicide charges him or something giving us an opening

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Which would've been cool but hey ho

zealous basalt Nov 19, 2019, 1:00 AM

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Who you calling ho

ancient jasper Nov 19, 2019, 9:00 PM

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I'm guessing with the way things have been going we'll probably be getting another update today?

dense plover Nov 19, 2019, 9:06 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

ionic terrace Nov 19, 2019, 9:16 PM

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ew

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that trait change

lone marten Nov 19, 2019, 9:17 PM

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I think having a power cap is good

dense plover Nov 19, 2019, 9:20 PM

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i dislike the removal of the trait

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but im glad they are moving it to the cloak

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having the cloak continue to gain resistance makes more sense

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so that if you want to come back and do the content, you dont need to switch 2 items, only 1

ionic terrace Nov 19, 2019, 10:08 PM

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There's a Grimtotem wearing the Tauren Heritage armor 🤔

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Was added in 8.3

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📎 unknown.png

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I wonder if it's supposed to be a hint to the 9.0 customizations

dense plover Nov 19, 2019, 10:13 PM

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i mean, the skin and tattoos are practically a guarantee

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grimtotem make as much sense as sandfury

ionic terrace Nov 19, 2019, 10:14 PM

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Mm

ionic terrace Nov 19, 2019, 11:46 PM

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Servers still up 😦

ionic terrace Nov 20, 2019, 12:19 AM

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yea looking like no build today

frigid crater Nov 20, 2019, 12:20 AM

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😦

ionic terrace Nov 20, 2019, 12:20 AM

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and as soon as I say that, they push a retail build

tall thunder Nov 20, 2019, 4:08 AM

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they’re making Grimtotem and Sandfury skins a thing?

night swift Nov 20, 2019, 4:31 AM

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Yeah. More customization options

dense plover Nov 20, 2019, 4:31 AM

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Sand fury for sure

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Grimtotem are a likely possibility

night swift Nov 20, 2019, 4:31 AM

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Taunka would be unique but the face would have to change which won’t happen

dense plover Nov 20, 2019, 4:32 AM

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Well it’s possible

night swift Nov 20, 2019, 4:32 AM

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Maybe a fur pattern

dense plover Nov 20, 2019, 4:32 AM

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Humans are getting new faces

night swift Nov 20, 2019, 4:32 AM

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Oh yeah thats true

dense plover Nov 20, 2019, 4:32 AM

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Taunka are possible because the only difference is fur colors and face

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Yaungol are not because they are physically different

night swift Nov 20, 2019, 4:33 AM

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Yeah no

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Heck if HM tauren didnt already exist they couldve just added them into tauren

dense plover Nov 20, 2019, 4:33 AM

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We will almost definitely see new Tauren horn patterns

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This is essentially the, making a ton of new ARs without having to create new racials or do the rest of the associated work

night swift Nov 20, 2019, 4:34 AM

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Yeah

dense plover Nov 20, 2019, 4:34 AM

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Especially since a lot of the, are extremely similar

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Them

night swift Nov 20, 2019, 4:34 AM

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Yeah mainly the first 6

dense plover Nov 20, 2019, 4:34 AM

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Zandalari and kul tirans and mechagnomes and vulpera all made sense

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Maghar and dark iron were separated because having different racials made sense

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Nightborne and void elves were separated because of the model

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And high mountain and lightforged were also separated because of racials

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Apparently there is more raid tests Friday

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So we will probably get a new build before then

zealous basalt Nov 20, 2019, 4:43 AM

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No

errant iron Nov 20, 2019, 8:37 AM

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Oh don't talk about the Nightborne models

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my poor heart cannot handle it

ember tundra Nov 20, 2019, 10:24 AM

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you mean, the nightelf-reskinned-models ?

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or the race we fought during legion with original models ?

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khadgarface

strange falcon Nov 20, 2019, 10:25 AM

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yikes

inner copper Nov 20, 2019, 11:48 AM

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<@&299347348847329281> ^

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Also in #no-wow-discussion

storm marsh Nov 20, 2019, 12:34 PM

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To think that Tauren Females will recieve new hairstyle options since 2004... I don't count 6.0 new model & textures

strange falcon Nov 20, 2019, 12:38 PM

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:O

dense plover Nov 20, 2019, 1:39 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/dyx79o/gameinformers_tour_of_revendreth/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

Gameinformer's Tour of Revendreth

Posted in r/wow by u/Utigarde • 87 points and 24 comments

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This seems to show that bare minimum, the zones are farther along than in legion or bfa

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So release may not be as far away as people think

storm marsh Nov 20, 2019, 2:19 PM

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...Makes me wanna want these venthyr... even more

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but its interesting

novel zodiac Nov 20, 2019, 2:22 PM

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so...

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july/august?

tropic trail Nov 20, 2019, 2:23 PM

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August 14th, my expectation

storm marsh Nov 20, 2019, 2:23 PM

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Personally, I want it to be late September/October. I don't want them to rush it like BfA. And it would fit the spooky time of the year :S

novel zodiac Nov 20, 2019, 2:24 PM

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bfa wasn't rushed

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it just sucked ass

tropic trail Nov 20, 2019, 2:24 PM

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Good point

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Azerite armor was a last minute thing and no class changes was lazy. All I have to say

storm marsh Nov 20, 2019, 2:24 PM

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yes it felt rushed, as far as i remember, beta started in may

tropic trail Nov 20, 2019, 2:24 PM

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Though I'm happy with my WW mastery not changing

novel zodiac Nov 20, 2019, 2:25 PM

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oh yeah, i remember that

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they tested the traits for 1 week lol

tropic trail Nov 20, 2019, 2:25 PM

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I hope my sweet mastery stacking won't change

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They don't call me Grandmaster for no reason in Legion

novel zodiac Nov 20, 2019, 2:26 PM

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i hate random secondary stats

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fuck versa

tropic trail Nov 20, 2019, 2:27 PM

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It's really good for tanks

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Especially blood dk

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I almost typed blood dj

novel zodiac Nov 20, 2019, 2:27 PM

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good thing i don't play tank

storm marsh Nov 20, 2019, 2:27 PM

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"Along the way in this area, we spot someone who looks decidedly out of place, a sort of Ethereal-looking merchant that’s part of an organization known as the Brokers." from the part about revendreth cathedral dungeon

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interesting

tropic trail Nov 20, 2019, 2:29 PM

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I hope Ragnaros makes a return in Shadowlands

novel zodiac Nov 20, 2019, 2:29 PM

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how?

tropic trail Nov 20, 2019, 2:30 PM

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Memes

novel zodiac Nov 20, 2019, 2:30 PM

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i think they count as living things

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but do they have souls?

tropic trail Nov 20, 2019, 2:30 PM

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I have no idea

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We should probably ask in a Q&A

novel zodiac Nov 20, 2019, 2:31 PM

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i don't know why they will put Draka as a major character

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when there's so much better ones

inland coyote Nov 20, 2019, 2:31 PM

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Inb4 blizz finds a way to have us fight Gul'dan one more time in SL

tropic trail Nov 20, 2019, 2:31 PM

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I think Gul'dan went to the Maw though

novel zodiac Nov 20, 2019, 2:32 PM

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a raid full of final bosses of previous raids

inland coyote Nov 20, 2019, 2:32 PM

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Where there is a will, there's a way. Blizz will retcon anything.

tropic trail Nov 20, 2019, 2:32 PM

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Ooooooof

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I wonder if we meet Grom in Maldraxxus

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Our one

novel zodiac Nov 20, 2019, 2:33 PM

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i fucking hope so

tropic trail Nov 20, 2019, 2:33 PM

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Not the Draenor one

novel zodiac Nov 20, 2019, 2:33 PM

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fuck draka

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we want grom

tropic trail Nov 20, 2019, 2:34 PM

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But that's Thrall's mommy

novel zodiac Nov 20, 2019, 2:34 PM

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lest be honest

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she's just there cause she's female

inland coyote Nov 20, 2019, 2:34 PM

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Is AU Draenor tied to SL too? We'll have two of everyone to deal with.

novel zodiac Nov 20, 2019, 2:34 PM

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they can't put only male major characters

tropic trail Nov 20, 2019, 2:35 PM

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I think it might not be

novel zodiac Nov 20, 2019, 2:35 PM

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cause millenials fucking suck

tropic trail Nov 20, 2019, 2:35 PM

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AU doesn't have a portal to AU Azeroth

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AU Azeroth should have its own Shadowlands

novel zodiac Nov 20, 2019, 2:35 PM

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if its an alternate reality, they should have its own SW

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unless it works like the legion

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1 legion for all realitys

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or whatever

tropic trail Nov 20, 2019, 2:37 PM

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"You're... me? Why do you look so old?"
"I lived my life and died to a draenei on an elephant."
"What in blood and thunder?"

inland coyote Nov 20, 2019, 2:37 PM

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Isn't SL supposed to be for all world's?

novel zodiac Nov 20, 2019, 2:37 PM

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worlds, yeah

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not reality's

tropic trail Nov 20, 2019, 2:39 PM

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I hope we get a bronze dragonflight expansion where we travel to different points in time for quest areas before Vanilla happened

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Imagine fighting Blackhand along Lothar

novel zodiac Nov 20, 2019, 2:41 PM

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imagine fighting Lothar along Blackhand*

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i think that wouldn't work because of factions

tropic trail Nov 20, 2019, 2:41 PM

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....hordies will be hordies

novel zodiac Nov 20, 2019, 2:41 PM

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in the end we already know who wins

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they can't do another alternate reality expansion

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people would rage so damn hard

tropic trail Nov 20, 2019, 2:42 PM

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I said time, not realities

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Like the Cata dungeons

inland coyote Nov 20, 2019, 2:43 PM

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By going back we're not really moving the story forward. Unless you're doing it to create wow2. Jack up the history so everyone has to start fresh.

novel zodiac Nov 20, 2019, 2:43 PM

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just make more caverns of time dungeon then

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its not enough to make a whole expansion

mighty wolf Nov 20, 2019, 2:43 PM

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why they cant just make an expansion where we just failed?

tropic trail Nov 20, 2019, 2:43 PM

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You seriously doubt Blizz

novel zodiac Nov 20, 2019, 2:45 PM

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they already made expansions where they failed

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it could be a good change if WE failed

tropic trail Nov 20, 2019, 2:47 PM

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That'd be a really good idea

novel zodiac Nov 20, 2019, 2:47 PM

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meaby we fail in SW

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and we came back to a really fucked up azeroth

tropic trail Nov 20, 2019, 2:47 PM

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Imagine if we fought one time against Sylvie before Shadowlands and that's why we're there

storm marsh Nov 20, 2019, 2:50 PM

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I think Tiffin would have been a much better character than Draka

tropic trail Nov 20, 2019, 2:50 PM

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Who?

inland coyote Nov 20, 2019, 2:50 PM

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The whole point of this expansion is Sylvannas proving Jaina is a Shadow Lord(same thing as a dread Lord?). That and so Jaina can hook up with Arthas again.

tropic trail Nov 20, 2019, 2:51 PM

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Anyone knows Nub Nub in Freehold?

novel zodiac Nov 20, 2019, 2:51 PM

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i hope jaina dies in this expansion

tropic trail Nov 20, 2019, 2:51 PM

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Oof

storm marsh Nov 20, 2019, 2:51 PM

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tiffin is Anduin's mother

tropic trail Nov 20, 2019, 2:51 PM

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One of the mainest characters in WoW

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Nah, just kill 'er

hasty tendon Nov 20, 2019, 2:52 PM

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Death is kind of a meaningless word in the Shadowlands, though.

novel zodiac Nov 20, 2019, 2:52 PM

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yeah, just like they killed Vol'jin

tropic trail Nov 20, 2019, 2:52 PM

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Outside of Warcraft 3, pretty much nobody knew Vol'jin

novel zodiac Nov 20, 2019, 2:53 PM

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wtf

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same with jaina then

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she was fucking nobody until Wotlk

tropic trail Nov 20, 2019, 2:53 PM

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All they knew about him is that he is the leader of the Darkspear

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That's all

novel zodiac Nov 20, 2019, 2:54 PM

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ok, kill graymane then

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i don't care

tropic trail Nov 20, 2019, 2:54 PM

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Don't hate on Alliance, buddy

#

I'm not hating on hordies

novel zodiac Nov 20, 2019, 2:54 PM

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not hating

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it should be the same for both factions

inland coyote Nov 20, 2019, 2:54 PM

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Graymane and Nathan is don't die. They get shipped.

tropic trail Nov 20, 2019, 2:55 PM

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^

novel zodiac Nov 20, 2019, 2:55 PM

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oh god

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don't start with that shit

#

i hate ships

tropic trail Nov 20, 2019, 2:55 PM

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I ship the Skyfire with Stormwind

hasty tendon Nov 20, 2019, 2:55 PM

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I mean, what if we considered what would make good story

Instead of having character equality.

novel zodiac Nov 20, 2019, 2:55 PM

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nah

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fuck story

#

it sucks always eitherway

tropic trail Nov 20, 2019, 2:56 PM

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I ship that other tree with Malfurion

hasty tendon Nov 20, 2019, 2:56 PM

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The characters are part of the story and nothing more, though, so why do you care? 😜

novel zodiac Nov 20, 2019, 2:56 PM

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i ship Teldrassil with fire

tropic trail Nov 20, 2019, 2:56 PM

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I ship Thrall with the boat used to get from Tradewinds Market to Drustvar

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I ship Jaina with water

novel zodiac Nov 20, 2019, 2:59 PM

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the only good ships are the cannon ones

tropic trail Nov 20, 2019, 2:59 PM

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Like Thrall's son with Taelia?

inland coyote Nov 20, 2019, 3:00 PM

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BDSM tyrande and malf will swing with Graythos(Nathamane?)

tropic trail Nov 20, 2019, 3:00 PM

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But isn't Garry ded?

inland coyote Nov 20, 2019, 3:00 PM

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Sylvannas brings everyone together. She's a hero.

novel zodiac Nov 20, 2019, 3:00 PM

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i though that thrall's sons were still children

tropic trail Nov 20, 2019, 3:00 PM

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DID HE GO TO THE MAW FOR RACISM?

novel zodiac Nov 20, 2019, 3:01 PM

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sylvannas is a hero

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we saved azeroth because of her

tropic trail Nov 20, 2019, 3:01 PM

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I'm talking about Garry here

novel zodiac Nov 20, 2019, 3:01 PM

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Garithos?

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he should be in the same area as Kael

#

that would be sick as fuck

tropic trail Nov 20, 2019, 3:02 PM

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Yea maybe

#

What are the odds that Kael is a soulbind?

novel zodiac Nov 20, 2019, 3:02 PM

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non

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unless they add him in future patchs

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cause we already saw 3 for his area

tropic trail Nov 20, 2019, 3:04 PM

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Maybe Grom is a Maldraxxus soulbind. Also, #beta-shadowlands

novel zodiac Nov 20, 2019, 3:05 PM

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oh yeah

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we can't talk about SW here

plain vigil Nov 20, 2019, 7:45 PM

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@dense plover @night swift late to the party but my thought process is Vulpera opened up snout modifications. I'm expecting them to apply these to all animal races

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Part of me wonders if Pandaren will get straight up Bear skins with some odd lore tie to Furbolgs, but that's baseless headcannon. Just intrigues me

dense plover Nov 20, 2019, 10:12 PM

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Well it’s not entirely out of the way

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But to our knowledge there’s no evidence

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But if it’s part of new faces, I could see it

ionic terrace Nov 20, 2019, 11:15 PM

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Servers still up FeelsBadMan

dense plover Nov 20, 2019, 11:26 PM

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probably tomorrow or friday

calm garden Nov 20, 2019, 11:32 PM

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i would expect nothingless then us comeing back at the end of shadowlands then to see the void in full focus at azeroth but that is just my oppinion

ancient jasper Nov 21, 2019, 1:53 AM

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Especially if time works in the Shadowlands like that one NPC said it does

flint meteor Nov 21, 2019, 11:19 AM

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think so too

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doubt xpac will all be in the shadowlands

austere gazelle Nov 21, 2019, 12:26 PM

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They'll also add new zones

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But at the point we're going, I wouldn't be surprised to see a full swarm of Old Gods coming from space to crash on azeroth

dense plover Nov 21, 2019, 4:04 PM

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Yay, infinite augment tune to replace my legion one

strange falcon Nov 21, 2019, 4:04 PM

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ye,they just posted it

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from rajani exalted

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https://www.wowhead.com/news=296573/new-infinite-augment-rune-coming-in-visions-of-nzoth?webhook

Wowhead

New Infinite Augment Rune Coming in Visions of N'zoth

Blizzard has confirmed on Twitter that the new augment rune datamined in the last Patch 8.3 PTR build, Lightning-Forged Augment Rune, is indeed an infinite augment rune

tropic trail Nov 21, 2019, 4:04 PM

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Peach goes nyoooom on news

dense plover Nov 21, 2019, 4:05 PM

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I got it from news

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I was celebrating

ionic terrace Nov 21, 2019, 6:49 PM

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@dense plover servers down

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by which i mean no servers 😄

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which means new build time

dense plover Nov 21, 2019, 6:51 PM

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Yay

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Perfect timing

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I’m on my way home

tropic trail Nov 21, 2019, 7:22 PM

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https://twitter.com/Stiven_SRB/status/1197595760633757698?s=09

Stevan Mitrovic (@Stiven_SRB)

New DK Glowing eye textures :P

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i feel that the eyes are staring into my soul

ionic terrace Nov 21, 2019, 7:23 PM

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those are headlights

normal mango Nov 21, 2019, 7:23 PM

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N'zoth warned us "All eyes shall be opened"

dense plover Nov 21, 2019, 7:27 PM

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padwarle, ping me when the build deploys

ionic terrace Nov 21, 2019, 7:28 PM

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ok

forest sphinx Nov 21, 2019, 7:33 PM

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Didn't it just deploy @ionic terrace

ionic terrace Nov 21, 2019, 7:33 PM

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?

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No

forest sphinx Nov 21, 2019, 7:34 PM

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Ok. Thanks

zealous basalt Nov 21, 2019, 7:49 PM

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ahahah

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"we have the technology"

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Well fucking rip

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i dont think we will have ar dks this build

ancient jasper Nov 21, 2019, 8:01 PM

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I wonder if Elf glow will make it in this build

storm marsh Nov 21, 2019, 8:25 PM

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Servers not up?

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I hope we get new glow this build

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And testable AR dks

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That dk new glow looks amazing

zealous basalt Nov 21, 2019, 8:27 PM

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Is it the real glow? I thought it was a trolololol

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Increases the size of your backpack by 8 slots.

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nani

ancient jasper Nov 21, 2019, 8:34 PM

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Alpaca Saddlebags - Increases the size of your backpack by 8 slots.
Vulperas appear to get 8 extra slots in their backpack!

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Huh

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Well then

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o_O

ancient forge Nov 21, 2019, 8:35 PM

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https://twitter.com/Stiven_SRB/status/1197614103554072581

Stevan Mitrovic (@Stiven_SRB)

In the end, you will all serve me.”The Lich King

normal mango Nov 21, 2019, 8:35 PM

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😮 vulpera dk it is then

dense plover Nov 21, 2019, 8:35 PM

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"DEATHKNIGHT_DISABLED
Creating a Death Knight with the selected race requires that you purchase Shadowlands."

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seems they fixed the reason we couldnt make them last time

storm marsh Nov 21, 2019, 8:36 PM

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Damnit

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W8 are they available

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Dk ars

dense plover Nov 21, 2019, 8:36 PM

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maybe? build isnt out yet

ionic terrace Nov 21, 2019, 8:37 PM

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servers aren't up and even if they were the build isn't pushed

storm marsh Nov 21, 2019, 8:37 PM

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Oh

zealous basalt Nov 21, 2019, 8:37 PM

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Those eyes are spoky

dense plover Nov 21, 2019, 8:37 PM

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im just saying that was one of the reasons they didnt work last time

storm marsh Nov 21, 2019, 8:37 PM

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Thought they were

night swift Nov 21, 2019, 8:37 PM

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Vulpera have an jncreased bag now??

dense plover Nov 21, 2019, 8:37 PM

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MAYBE

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we dont know the context

zealous basalt Nov 21, 2019, 8:37 PM

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MAYBE YOU BETTER START WORKING THERE PECH

storm marsh Nov 21, 2019, 8:37 PM

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I wonder if there are new skin colors

dense plover Nov 21, 2019, 8:37 PM

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what I do find interesting is the brutosaur fos

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im hoping it means they might decrease the cost next expac

night swift Nov 21, 2019, 8:38 PM

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Yeah thats a weird one

dense plover Nov 21, 2019, 8:38 PM

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since its done its job and drained gold from the economy

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and with current gold amounts, its functionally unobtainable for newer players

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especially with the changes going in to shadowlands

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5 million gold is currently only obtainable if you farm the AH at the start of each patch on 12 characters

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and with the changes to the AH coming

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and the changes to leveling

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it might make sense to reduce the cost

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maybe 500k?

zealous basalt Nov 21, 2019, 8:39 PM

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hax

tranquil steeple Nov 21, 2019, 8:39 PM

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then I feel they'd need to reduce the Mad Merchant's spider's cost too

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and all the other gold sink mounts

ancient jasper Nov 21, 2019, 8:40 PM

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I think the Brutosaur might be an exception to that because of the AH built in, but I suppose we'll see.

dense plover Nov 21, 2019, 8:41 PM

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servers are apparently going back up

zealous basalt Nov 21, 2019, 8:41 PM

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No builds

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cry

dense plover Nov 21, 2019, 8:41 PM

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but build hasnt deployed for the client yet

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so they might still be working on issues

tranquil steeple Nov 21, 2019, 8:41 PM

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unless the spider from the Mad Merchant's cost is reduced too, I'm thinking the Brutosaur will at most go down to 2.5m (so half)

dense plover Nov 21, 2019, 8:41 PM

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they might be trying to make sure the server works, so if they cant deploy the build, they can still do raid testing

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they might reduce a lot of the UBER gold mounts

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tbh, 500k is definitely doable

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it takes a lot of time

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but its doable

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5 million isnt realistic anymore

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a lot of that gold was warlords or legion gold

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those mounts were there to drain the economy AND to expose how people generate those huge sums of gold

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the changes to the AH are going to fix some of that

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and with a FoS, imo, it makes sense to change some

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also, spider might not change just because spider mount

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its expensive so its rare

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so that arachnophobes can still play

uncut vault Nov 21, 2019, 8:43 PM

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Like all dinosaurs, the Mighty Caravan Brutosaur’s days are numbered. I can confirm that when Shadowlands goes live, the shady vendors Talutu and Tricky Nick will cease selling it. Their other offerings – the Lost Platysaur pet and the Palehide Direhorn mount, will remain available for purchase.

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https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/looks-like-the-mighty-caravan-brutosaur-might-be-unobtainable-in-9-0-1/370236/8

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Looks Like the Mighty Caravan Brutosaur might Be Unobtainable In 9.0.1

Hello! Yes. About that … Like all dinosaurs, the Mighty Caravan Brutosaur’s days are numbered. I can confirm that when Shadowlands goes live, the shady vendors Talutu and Tricky Nick will cease selling it. Their other offerings – the Lost Platysaur pet and the Palehide...

storm marsh Nov 21, 2019, 8:44 PM

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But why