(until they nerfed it)
#beta-ptr-spoilers
cyan prairie
pulsar iris
i would probably not pay enough attention to do that
i dont pay attention to when my earth shield is gone on shaman
cyan prairie
i might race change my main so i can have shorter stuns (useful for tanking)
dry knot
i also just wanted to say that even if MG racials get nerfed, what are they gonna nerf? probably only numbers
so the racials will still be good no matter what
dry knot
and the mirror image mage thingy
cyan prairie
was it % hp?
dry knot
yes
cyan prairie
yeah, i'd expect it to be changed into a flat HP amount
dry knot
ok
dry knot
AR draenei or regular?
dry knot
not that i know of, no
cyan prairie
gonna create a draenei and check
cyan prairie
dry knot
right
cyan prairie
seems similiar
dry knot
true
strange falcon
it used to heal for a flat amount scaling with level back in tbc/wrath
idk when they changed it
cyan prairie
WoD
probably
but i might be wrong
never played alliance, so i don't know much about their racials
i know some basics
like "Nelves have stealth" xD
dry knot
which is super good in m+ btw
cyan prairie
yeah, the only racial that is actually decent for M+ on ally side
well, DI Dwarf racial is good too on SoB
strange falcon
you know the singular only (possible) AR that would get me playing alliance
which is not confirmed
cyan prairie
for the poison NPCs before 3rd boss
strange falcon
and mauldrak is highly against it
and has fought many people on it
multiple times
dry knot
MGs have lock picking up to any skill btw, awesome for m+ rn
pulsar iris
wat be it @strange falcon
cyan prairie
No, they won't be playable
strange falcon
i think he knows :P
dry knot
? @cyan prairie
cyan prairie
and i think you know why i'm right
strange falcon
i'm not saying they will be playable,i'm fully comfortable on horde for 15 years
but if they did make it in,as alliance
dry knot
oh nvm
strange falcon
i'd be compelled
pulsar iris
wat
strange falcon
to make one
cyan prairie
they start with S
pulsar iris
saberon?
cyan prairie
end with K
strange falcon
they are related to a horde zone
strange falcon
ya
cyan prairie
you said it
strange falcon
the snek bois
dry knot
ahhh
pulsar iris
why would snek go alliance
dry knot
for real
cyan prairie
because ppl are butthurt about them
strange falcon
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5JYE13UEAAevW2.jpg why internet..
dry knot
lul
pulsar iris
i dont understand how they are not horde yet
strange falcon
admit it
cyan prairie
(a.k.a Reddit)
strange falcon
there is 3 possible scenarios,1-they dont make it in,2-they go horde,so far both of these cause no change to my behavior
then the 3rd scenario if they go alliance
i'd have to endure disgusting alliance players,to make one
cyan prairie
they wouldn't be alliance, due to lore reasons
alliance pretty much killed any of their chances to get them in 8.1
with attack on Dazar'alor
dry knot
i feel offended Dafire
strange falcon
you should be darbotar
dry knot
lol damn
dry knot
imagine having hunched trolls, orcs who were also hunched but now somehow managed to stand up straight which looks abnnormal btw
and the only hot race being belfs
strange falcon
hey
pulsar iris
what you mean the only hot race
pulsar iris
nightborne?
strange falcon
instead of having humans
cyan prairie
imagine playing a faction that has no story 
strange falcon
x6
dry knot
lol
pulsar iris
i mean even female goblins look cute
pulsar iris
orcs look so damn hot
strange falcon
imagine playing a faction with a marysue leader
pulsar iris
well i guess we have different beauty standards
dry knot
dude lol
strange falcon
you brought this upon yourself when you revealed you were an alliance player darbotar
you cannot complain
cyan prairie
Nightborne and Belf women > every other women
dry knot
well, yeah i can
pulsar iris
you saying orcs are not hot
pulsar iris
you gonna say something?
cyan prairie
The hottest race are Nelves (especially after prepatch)
pulsar iris
dwarf females are hot
strange falcon
dwarf ladies are so rare,during legion's easter event
pulsar iris
oy i have a female dwarf shaman
cyan prairie
dwarf females are like bald midget pandarens
dry knot
hilarious xD
pulsar iris
you could had asked for me
cyan prairie
imagine an event requiring you to find a Kul'tiran female
pulsar iris
Kappa
cyan prairie
Orcs are what humans should be
dry knot
do you also think undead females are hot?
pulsar iris
KappaPride
dry knot
or males at that?
dry knot
if you have twin tails, anything can be cute
dry knot
i know that from personal experience ^^
pulsar iris
even i can be cute with twin tails
pulsar iris
oy you saying i'm not cute without them?
pulsar iris
on what
pulsar iris
i look very cute
pulsar iris
mom tells me that a lot
dry knot
that's good
cyan prairie
Undeads without the transmog-breaking bones, here i come
pulsar iris
yeah, i'm so much excited for those
dry knot
exactly, finally they won't be as ugly anymore
pulsar iris
maybe they will get their back upright too
dry knot
doubt it
pulsar iris
as the guards we see at dazar'alor
cyan prairie
would be nice
pulsar iris
upright trolls too Kappa
pulsar iris
hell yeah
pulsar iris
but i like trollies being hunched
the single reason my horde monk is a troll is because of that
cyan prairie
why are the Trolls so hunched? So they can better see how low the quality of alliance is badum tss
pulsar iris
they are capoeira masters
dry knot
woah
coming back to the channels' topic, sorta, do you guys think the additional customization options will be RPG slider-like?
pulsar iris
uhm i dont think so
cyan prairie
nah
pulsar iris
probably only presets, like we already have
cyan prairie
just more face, hair etc. options
dry knot
damn
feelsbadman
i just want an option to make your legs shorter or longer
i.e. your entire character
pulsar iris
but you play alliance
pulsar iris
you can play normal humans, short humans
cyan prairie
i want Taunka skin option for Tauren!
dry knot
dude
pulsar iris
i want yaungol or however we spell that
dry knot
imagine a small nelf tho
strange falcon
i'd want shorter legs on my tauren
pulsar iris
exact the same? what are you talking about
dry knot
this is ridiculous btw... no alliance race looks the same as of rn
pulsar iris
cyan prairie
pulsar iris
dry knot
not that big a difference
dense plover
taunka and yaungol have significant differences
strange falcon
yaungol is HD taunka
pulsar iris
they all cow bois
cyan prairie
bigger than Draenei and LF Draenei
strange falcon
change my mind xd
dense plover
specifically in faces and horns
pulsar iris
but they are really different
dry knot
well that's exactly my thought, Dafire
just HD
oh no, here comes mrpeach
everyone run
dense plover
no need to be rude
pulsar iris
hugs peach
dry knot
sry peach
dense plover
they are different tho - tauren are similar to trolls
they have multiple varities based on their environment
tauren are different by continent tho
taunka in northrend, tauren in kalimdor, and yaungol in pandaria
dense plover
theyre culturally different as well
pulsar iris
and HMT at broken isles
dense plover
they are not
dense plover
the entire face area is significantly different
taunka have a flat face
yaungol have more hair
and larger horns
cyan prairie
i wonder if there will be any lore explanation for these new customisation options
strange falcon
you've already said that mauldrak
dense plover
but they could also work with new customizations
strange falcon
there is no need for extra quests or explanations
dense plover
since trolls are getting the other skin colors
cyan prairie
Trolls get Farraki, who are 100% aggressive towards the Horde
dense plover
it makes some sense in the context of adding variation
think of it like this mauldrak
cyan prairie
so, why no Fel Orcs
dense plover
there are more options because its about individualism
an individual farraki joining the horde is now something you can physically play
it doesnt mean the tribe has allied
in the case of taunka, they are already allies of the horde
cyan prairie
so why wouldn't it work the same for Fel Orcs?
dense plover
yaungol would be in the farakki box
oh they could
i just dont know if they will
we havent seen red skinned orcs without spikes since BC
dry knot
but aren't the fel orcs the "raging rampant" ones?
cyan prairie
there are models of Fel Orcs, that use the new Orc Model
dense plover
like the first time, eventually it fades
dont they have the warlords spikes mauldrak?
dense plover
oh, they updated the BC ones?
dense plover
ah ok
then yeah
certainly possible
didnt realize those had been updated
you dont have to screenshot
wowhead modelviewer lets you see npc customization options
cyan prairie
yeah, but i didn't see Fel Orc skin option there
dry knot
but legit, are there any red orcs that are sane enough to "join" the horde aka a new customization option?
dense plover
nvm you gotta screenshot
yes they could be
green orcs eventually lost a majority of their uncontrollable rage
pulsar iris
fel orcs are organized
cyan prairie
before Zaela became their Warlord
dense plover
its fair to say thats possible for red orcs since that happened with grommash
cyan prairie
which one?
AU one - we don't know
Our Grommash - sacrificed himself to kill Manny and free the Orcs
there you go
They're on the updated model
dense plover
interesting
cyan prairie
Maybe they could add Eredar skin for Draenei?
if they want some more "player design"
dense plover
yaungol are super different
they might not happen
but taunka are just the face
so theyre possible
cyan prairie
The issue with Taunka is, that just like Sethrak, they have no female models
Female Taunka used just normal Tauren model
dense plover
i mean, yeah thats definitely an issue
but its not like they can use the current taunka heads anyway
dry knot
but they could just use regular tauren females and model taunkas on top
dense plover
they would have to make new faces/heads like they are for humans
which i dont think is unreasonable
since humans are getting entirely new faces
not just skin colors
making a female taunka would make sense
and it meets the same criteria as the new human faces
theyre new faces
strange falcon
id argue sethrak have female voices
dense plover
they have voices
strange falcon
so they could just have little gender diversity
dense plover
but their entire model doesnt work
im not saying make taunka a race
im saying make them a tauren customization
theyre literally already members of the horde
and it doesnt require editing the model outside of the face
outside of more skin colors
cyan prairie
Taunka model also supports the armors already
dense plover
no no
it wouldnt use the taunka model
it would have to be from scratch
taunka model is old and doesnt match hd tauren
they would essentially be modeling new faces based on the taunka faces
and then adding them as customization options, reusing the rigging from wrath to connect the head
and then probably redoing the actual facial rigging to match the different facial structure
which is what they are doing with new humans
its within the scope of things they are already doing
for example, thin ice trolls are within that same parameter
large trolls are not
theyre mainly just horns and some face differences
hell, you might not even need to do facial changes
just add new tusks and hair and color options
cyan prairie
The thicc Troll models are closer to an Orc, than to a Troll
with the armor scaling
dense plover
lets just fully avoid that debate
dense plover
also no
those arent blood elves
new options wont be things that arent that thing
taunka are derivative of tauren
dark rangers are derivative of night elves
and wont be a playable skin option unless its an undead option
dry knot
there are both belf and nelf dark rangers
zealous basalt
Did I just see people ganging on an alliance member here
dense plover
yeah theyre on the model
dry knot
yes you did Makore 😦
dense plover
but they arent living blood elves
dry knot
lol no
dense plover
it would be weird to have an undead with blood elf racials
cyan prairie
i mean, the Blood Elves could get Dark Ranger skin option, like normal dwarves get wildhammer skin option
zealous basalt
How dare you two gankers
cyan prairie
go cry for 60% warmode buff (jk)
dense plover
those arent equivalent
dark rangers are undead
it would be very strange for an undead blood elf to share racials
cyan prairie
it's just as weird, as seeing WH Dwarf Paladin
zealous basalt
But racial are the same
dense plover
i think they wouldve worked as an allied race
zealous basalt
Obviously you won't make a WH Paladin if you know the lore
dense plover
but then that would be 3 dwarf allied races
meanwhile all orcs were shoved under one banner
cyan prairie
yeah, that's why i said that Dark Rangers should be just skin option for Belves
we don't need more elf ARs
zealous basalt
I think if all it would be a skin for unded
cyan prairie
it's a 50/50
cyan prairie
they could be just undead AR
zealous basalt
If they actually put it
dense plover
i could see them adding pointed ears to an undead
cyan prairie
but they would need a 3rd skin then
dense plover
with skin changes
cyan prairie
a Nelf Dark Ranger
dense plover
especially now that you can have a no bones option
cyan prairie
because why not
zealous basalt
I don't know how would it work though
normal niche
Unless there can be a counter argument on what, I'm about to say
I don't think that blue eyes should be an option
for blood elves
zealous basalt
It's a big middle finger to players in general
cyan prairie
it would be funny tho
normal niche
They're blood elves, I forgot the lore reason behind the eye color change
but it'd make no sense
well true
cyan prairie
i'd laugh so much reading all these rage posts on reddit or anywhere else xD
normal niche
exposure to fel?
cyan prairie
Belves are clear now tho, that's why they got the golden eyes color option
due to Sunwell
zealous basalt
High elven split into two, one part remained in Dalaran and the other part went to recover their land, stuff happened and they were infused to fel energied
Now cleansed to Light energy
However High Elves are still infused with Arcane
Reason of Blue eyes
normal niche
Yeah because the Blood Elf is apart of the ones that went to recover their land
right?
zealous basalt
It's like an ethnic difference of beliefs
normal niche
pc-
zealous basalt
Ye
normal niche
the blood elf pc I mean
zealous basalt
The blood elf pc is full follower of those
If all
Blue shining eyes would be a skin part of humans
What do you think @dense plover ?
If they were to come up with total skin changes like Undead to Undead Elf
cyan prairie
wait, you're trying to say that High Elf skin should be for humans?
zealous basalt
Would that be the same with Human to High Elf?
zealous basalt
Well Maul
Issue is racials
They arent going to make a high elf that runs through void rifts do they
Human racials are the basic that don't hurt anyone
normal niche
void elf kek
zealous basalt
Or they can go another way
And make half elves
Which might be making humans with a bit pointy ears and stuff
Although half elves are rare
cyan prairie
nothing you said makes more sense than Helf skin for Belf
zealous basalt
I have learned to ignore you already, Maul
But ye
This whole skin change is
Too new
cyan prairie
i mean literally, it's like giving a Dwarf skin for a Gnome
zealous basalt
It's either them being able to change skins
Without changing the race
Or just don't giving them up
I'm leaning for the second
cyan prairie
i'd rather expecr draenei getting Eredar skin options
zealous basalt
Ehh
cyan prairie
makes no sense, but still more than elf skin for human
normal niche
pretty sure they're irredeemable, but seeing as how their are eredar that just do their own thing, or am I confusing them for the Man'ari?
zealous basalt
You aren't getting it, Mauldrak
I'm not talking about if they look alike
It's about them acting like a placeholder of racial abilities that don't look very whack
It would be the same giving the Blood elves the skin of being a Dark Ranger
cyan prairie
it still makes no sense
zealous basalt
If you wouldn't like to make another race slot
cyan prairie
if Helves are still infused with arcane
normal niche
Because I'm certain, that racial abilities don't take that much effort like a zone
dark furnace
They could make the Void Rifts into Arcane Rifts or something like that
normal niche
or a new class
cyan prairie
then Belf racials make 100% sense
dense plover
the manari are an eredar faction I think
zealous basalt
I don't know if that is really possible
cyan prairie
why even a different skin?
dense plover
thats not unreasonable but extremely unlikely
i dont even expect anything that out there
cyan prairie
i guess the whole existence of Void Elves is one big pile of shit in the lore already
we shouldn't expand it
zealous basalt
I don't know if you are unreasonable or if you are just stubborn
cyan prairie
what i'm trying to say - the lore got hurt enough with the addition of Void Elves
trying to "fix" it
would only make things worse
zealous basalt
It would have been better if they added more in deep story
Void elf is a nice concept
But it was added like boom
normal niche
High,Night,Blood,Void
cyan prairie
they got created from nothing
normal niche
yes
zealous basalt
Not a real build up
zealous basalt
That's what it mean with added like boom
normal niche
yup
zealous basalt
If it had more build up and stuff in it
cyan prairie
of a playable skeleton
cyan prairie
Green Kul'tirans - here are your playable Ogres
normal niche
Yeah
normal niche
well
zealous basalt
"Das a discussion"
cyan prairie
yup
zealous basalt
I still can't believe that Ion threw the towel with Nzoth
I do remember that Legion had a final blizzcon along BfA
Some bits of info
normal niche
as disappointing as 8.3 is
cyan prairie
wasn't the KamehameHEARTOFAZEROTH cutscene removed recently?
dense plover
i mean
normal niche
until 2020 october i guess
dense plover
we dont know how he goes
dense plover
the cutscene we saw is not the raid end cinematic
cyan prairie
like it never existed
zealous basalt
I was going to say
dense plover
we dont know how the raid ends
zealous basalt
"The fuck you talking with 2020"
dense plover
we know we use the reorigination machine
normal niche
True
dense plover
and the dagger probably
dense plover
my guess is we put nzoth in the dagger
normal niche
mhm
dense plover
and then nzoth will be important in another expac
zealous basalt
Wonder if there is going to be post stuff
dense plover
probably?
zealous basalt
Like in 7.3.5
cyan prairie
there are still many things that need some explaining
dense plover
considering the deathknight stuff is in 8.3
cyan prairie
N'zoth's end is just one of them
zealous basalt
Well, he hasn't ended yet so
cyan prairie
and we don't know if he even does
dense plover
well nzoth doesnt win
cyan prairie
until we see the ending cinematic
dense plover
but thats all we know
zealous basalt
I still have my doubts about the datamine
cyan prairie
what if getting into the dagger actually means victory for him?
dense plover
thats been my theory from the start
dense plover
that nzoth wants us to use the dagger
because otherwise none of this makes sense
why give the dagger to sylvanas
and send us to nazjatar
normal niche
I agree with Mr.Peach
dense plover
if nzoth gets killed?
uncut vault
hence why its 50/50 between if he wanted us or not, based on the current writing quality 😛
normal niche
N'zoth gets Imprisoned in the dagger, then shadowlands
cyan prairie
this guy manipulated so many things, that i wouldn't be surprised if we end being manipulated ourselves
dense plover
theyve made it pretty clear on ptr that nzoth has always been 4 steps ahead of us
cyan prairie
we need to know what happens to people who still have his illuminati eye
after his "death"
uncut vault
probably nothing, besides the toy
zealous basalt
Jailer merges with Nzoth and revives everyone and merges with all old gods and opens a rift to the void dimension sending Azeroth there
The end
dense plover
probably what porter said
zealous basalt
Also sorry peach
dense plover
hard to say tho
they purposefully remove it after 1-2 scenarios
so that you cant see
its not a bug either
zealous basalt
Inb4 it's a massive laugh at the end of the game
zealous basalt
Well
dense plover
so theyre purposefully hiding something i think
zealous basalt
It works weird in PTR
cyan prairie
ok, so other thing
zealous basalt
I only see it in BfA areas
cyan prairie
why would Bolvar suddenly start making new DKs?
cyan prairie
if they get created before Sylvanas attacks him
zealous basalt
Sylvanas
dense plover
thats something we will definitely discover post raid
normal niche
Sylvanas
dense plover
guaranteed
zealous basalt
Long answer
cyan prairie
Sylvanas comes AFTER that
zealous basalt
Something else
dense plover
theres a SHITTON of bolvar icecrown encrypted stuff
dense plover
there will be a story of some kind there
cyan prairie
There is a meeting between Darion and Bolvar too
dense plover
yep
normal niche
Yeah
normal niche
the encrypted stuff is before Sylvanas
dense plover
yep
zealous basalt
I wonder if Alexstraza will appear in those bolvar moments, pissy or not
zealous basalt
Since... Life and death duo
dense plover
still no idea where that occurs
because we havent seen it ingame
they added more last build
cyan prairie
i wonder if they'll give him a new model
zealous basalt
Wonder if she gonna be like "You had one job"
dense plover
so its definitely something being worked on
zealous basalt
That's a sure
dense plover
bolvar definitely has a new model
normal niche
So what I can conclude here is that Saurfang dies, Sylvanas goes to her home N'zoth is still around, we go and defeat N'zoth, N'zoth is imprisoned in the Dagger, and while we're fighting N'zoth Bolvar decides to make new Allied Race Death Knights
So Later, Sylvanas is further empowered and she goes to Icecrown
dense plover
hes a main character in shadowlands
normal niche
She deals with Bolvar, and opens the shadowlands
zealous basalt
God damn it
tropic trail
it was already said on the blizzcon, that Bolvar creates the new Death Knights before Sylvanas attacks him. and he does this only because he knew Sylvanas will attack him
as a dev said, he knew there is something to come
dense plover
yeah
he has a connection to the shadowlands
he probably knows that death is broken
zealous basalt
Fucking broken
cyan prairie
uhh... if he knew why wouldn't his DKs defend him?
dense plover
that blue scourge magic comes from the shadowlands
zealous basalt
Pls nerf
dense plover
thats literally what 8.3 is
cyan prairie
i guess they are stronger than some mindless zombies
dense plover
and what the siege of ice crown is
uncut vault
I'll be curious to see if the new DKs are willing or not. I hope they arent, would add a much needed layer of actual moral depth to fighting Sylvanas
zealous basalt
I have a theory of why the current DK doesn't really help
tropic trail
Because they most likely will? What we saw is what happened when Sylvanas arrived at the ice crown
there is still this thing with Nathanos and his mission
zealous basalt
My theory is because how scripted the event it
dense plover
nathanos' mission already happened
normal niche
were the DK's sent to fight N'zoth while she was doing that?
zealous basalt
Since it is a "New Character created" intro
normal niche
or....
cyan prairie
Yeah, what happens to Nathanos is another question
zealous basalt
And not an event
dense plover
the question is what happened after
zealous basalt
I suppose they couldn't make it a time limited event
tropic trail
the pre patch will most likely be about defending the ice crown from Sylvanas and her forces (Dark Rangers, Nathanos etc) - as part 1. Part 2 will be what happened after Sylvanas destroyed the helm. The scourge attacks
zealous basalt
But there is going to probably be 3rd Generation forces
normal niche
bruh i don't think its just gonna be all zombies invading towns, and infecting people
zealous basalt
I would write pre patch word by word
uncut vault
the stuff that nathanos and Sylvanas were talking about at windrunner spire was likely her assaulting ICC
zealous basalt
But it would make a shit ton of flood
uncut vault
ripping apart the helm and causing such a big tear is something to hesitate about
uncut vault
they wont
zealous basalt
No
cyan prairie
about her attack on Icecrown or sth
uncut vault
We know that blizzard decided to end it at windrunner spire
zealous basalt
I still believe that the whole line was a mess
The only thing people learned from it was
....
Well
zealous basalt
I think everyone knew Nathanos's feelings over Sylvanas
night swift
To not do stuff like that
cyan prairie
i mean, there just HAS to be at least one more quest for loyalists
zealous basalt
I didn't expect much
uncut vault
there should be more, but there wont be
cyan prairie
it'd be weird if she said "when we meet next time"
and then they actually never meet
zealous basalt
I suppose that tells Blizz to think about two sides of the same storyline better
I mean
normal niche
tropic trail
There is the little chance of having a last quest, because of the datamined "loyalist cosmetic set" . But they could just scraped that Idea and there really wont be anything
zealous basalt
The whole thing was supposed to be just rebellion
Let's remember that they added the choice at last minute
cyan prairie
ehh they should reward people for being patient enough to side with her...
night swift
Until the last minute when people complained
zealous basalt
I even suspect that the last cinematic would have happened to rebelists anyways
As in
"We have found Sylvanas go hunt her"
Cinematic happens
cyan prairie
we need some introduction to the Icecrown attack
zealous basalt
Kek
normal niche
I remember that
night swift
Lol
zealous basalt
But ye
I never expected a lot from the Sylv loyalist
I mean I suppose is cute to let players have some illusion of choice for the favorite character
cyan prairie
it was still more, than naming some meaningless ship xD
normal niche
The PC just wants gold and gear
cyan prairie
but yeah, if the choice doesn't matter in the end, it's just not worth it
cyan prairie
that's actually true
normal niche
mhm
normal niche
We're basically
Give a bunch of homeless people gold and loot for killing a specific thing
zealous basalt
Although considering how much the PC has gone through
Even i would be a little insane
I wonder if there is going to be some sort of flavor for the veteran players that went through exoacs before the Prepatch
Becuz as... Let's say... If I was a writer (I am not) I would make us, the veterans be a Lil more recognizable, while making the new ones (New players after prepatch) feel like genuinely new
strange falcon
thats also very valid for any DND character
go risk your life and sanity
for 2 gold pieces
normal niche
mhm
there's a thing that some people state is that
our characters are basically what we would do/be, if we were in a world like Wow for example and we had the option to do stuff like that.
zealous basalt
We are still bound by rules in there but yes
cyan prairie
Thank you Hero for killing a Death Titan, that could destroy the whole universe. Here's your 20 gold and some green socks.
inland coyote
also, the green socks will be no good in 3 months, they don't have the azerite traits you want because they're socks, and they're standard issue because class gear is a thing of the past
cyan prairie
It's a cycle of this game
We start killing Boars in Durotar
end up killing titans
to go back to killing Boars somewhere else
safe light
What about wolves? Are there Titan wolves?
tropic trail
Fenrir. Well, more like god wolf but y'know
pulsar iris
TITAN WOLVES
ionic terrace
@dense plover Li Li and Chen questline is up in vale
dense plover
YESH
ionic terrace
Yep
dense plover
but also i hope they dont reset assaults again
if its nzoth in the vale again im gonna scream
i havent been able to test the others
ionic terrace
yea
tbh I wasn't expecting it till tomorrow
but it does seem to be hitting around 5 - 6 pm Eastern lately
dense plover
thats ideal
thats 3pm pst
they have 3 or so hours to get it up before people go home
patch just went out
1.17gb
ancient jasper
Huh that's pretty beefy
dense plover
its medium-low sized
probably mainly filled in voice files
they added 1000+ voicefiles last ptr patch
and the majority were empty
mighty wolf
Datamine 
dense plover
qian's vo is in
thats the head mogu for the mogu faction
wastewander vo is in
thats one of the uldum groups
calm garden
lol i thought blizz forgot about chen
dense plover
thralls vo is in
mighty wolf
👀
calm garden
amazeing gallywix is a cuck who knew?
ancient jasper
Hm.. Possibly the new starting zone for the Panda/Allied Race DK's?
calm garden
most likely
stiff vector
ionic terrace
@dense plover looks like the third assault is Aqir
ionic terrace
OH
dense plover
uldum is aqir, sun guys, and nzoth
vale is mogu, nzoth, and mantid
Teeming Island Expeditions
thats unexpected
also, seems like theres an aqir insect rep, so probably a grind mount like the pterrorax
Uncorrupted Voidwing
This spawn of Vexiona, cleansed by Wrathion, comes from a flight with a fractured past and uncertain future.
Quest: Lost Flight
theyre giving you a mount
sick
dense plover
the swarmer is 100,000 of the research tokens
thats so many
oh good, seems like consuming maws are being brought back
maybe theyll fix the bug where they didnt work
@uncut vault
Peer Pressure Defeat N'Zoth, the Corruptor in Ny'alotha, the Waking City while all players have accepted the Gift of N'Zoth on Normal difficulty or higher
new achieve^
if you gave the gift away, you literally cant XD
ionic terrace
uncut vault
thats gonna be a pain to get lol
dense plover
thats why its normal or higher
if it was heroic it would never be completed
BOOOOO
they changed the recipe names
now theyre lame
ionic terrace
😦
ionic terrace
ew
dense plover
urzul was gross too
mythic mounts should be unique
and should identify where they came from
i would say that one does its job
uncut vault
I dont like darions new voice actor lol
dense plover
is it different from legion?
uncut vault
From legion and wrath, yeah
or at the very least, inflected in an entirely different tone
dense plover
its definitely the same person
but yes
the tone is different
that could be purposeful
in legion it was taliesin jaffe and it definitely still is
which makes me think its either purposeful
or they goofed like they did with lorthemar when naz first came out
uncut vault
I like the callback to the original lich king speech
"this is the hour of your dark rebirth"
dense plover
and he still has his lich king voice
uncut vault
seems to me like they're not willingly raised, I hope that ends up being the case
dense plover
maybe we will find out once the servers are up
tropic trail
im guessing the void dragon might be the aotc mount..?
normal niche
His voice is different in the Shadowlands Trailer? or is it the same Voice Actor, I think that the Lich King Voice only comes with the Helmet.
dense plover
no
normal niche
If that's true then, I want the Helm of Domination for my character, too bad its broken now tho
dense plover
the lost flight is a quest in the campaign
the void dragon mount is a quest reward everyone will get
its not a new dragon
its the old drake model
the one from cata
normal niche
You serious right?
normal niche
I wish they'd update the older dragon models, I mean sure I like the new Deathwing Mount and the Wrathion Dragon Model in 7.3.5
tropic trail
whats the campaign quest?
normal niche
But like what, about the red dragon models and specific stuff, it makes sense tho as they don't generally update models unless, it has to do with the theme of an expansion
dense plover
introduces all the mechanics and explains the story behind them
normal niche
they updated most demon themed things in Legion
tropic trail
ah okay
normal niche
No bro what I'm saying is like
the NPC Dragons, the Red Dragons and Blue Dragons don't have updated models like
Dragon Npcs in general besides
Wrathion
and
dense plover
yes because theyre not relevant enough
and wrathion didnt have a unique model
all the other flight leaders do
except the current green dragon leader
but thats only because theyre new
tranquil steeple
up until now Wrathion's had a non-unique model, though
normal niche
that's what I'm saying.
tranquil steeple
because he wasn't showing himself openly, working in secrecy, thus not needing a model until now... because he wasn't super relevant
uncut vault
100mb update on live, weird
tropic trail
i dont like how the void dragon looks now
dense plover
the big purple vexiona model?
ooooo
socket placing item
sick
oh
void dragon IS using new model
sick
normal niche
yeah
dense plover
they mustve used a placeholder in the quest previously
tropic trail
normal niche
recolored storm drake?
normal niche
Ah.
dense plover
but mainly yes
might be the AOTC mount
but i dont think so
i could be wrong
doesnt seem tied to 9.0 tho
and usually the last patch AOTC mount is the one that ties into next expac
the bird of titans blood was the only exception
we got the moose for legion
actually
titans blood bird did tie in
azerite
duh
so the AOTC mount will be something tied to shadowlands
maybe something with the oribos aesthetic?
tropic trail
dense plover
yeah i disagree completely
it doesnt follow the trend of other AOTC mounts
they usually tie in to the next expac
tranquil steeple
I think it should be phrased to possibly be the AOTC mount