Sylvanas did never hurt Bolvar in the whole fight
#beta-ptr-spoilers
tropic trail
true
zealous basalt
And the only hit she did
tropic trail
she just wanted the helm
tropic trail
her entire reason for even going there is to open a gateway to the shadowlands
she doesn't want to kill him
zealous basalt
Then in the moment of breaking the helm it feels that she was having a very hard time pulling all her strength and her master's power
ie, the eyes
And then into the banshee form
tropic trail
it is forged from nathrezim hands
uncut vault
The moment of breaking the crown didn’t seem to be death powers
tropic trail
isn't it saronite too
uncut vault
That was her banshee form
tropic trail
who's hoping for a class announcement in >2hrs
strange falcon
yeah idk if theyre doing that
zealous basalt
And I have to say that the objetive of the cinematic was really to shown that Bolvar wasn't really the Lich King that Arthas was
tropic trail
ZA WARUDO
strange falcon
considering they said theyre reworking the classes to move to class identity
tropic trail
anything can happen
strange falcon
rather than spec
tropic trail
Uther meeting the new LK is going to 🅱 e awkward, if he even comes with us to the shadowlands
wait, isn't Arthas there too
I think he was sent straight to The Maw
dense plover
^
tropic trail
No
calm plank
it's a troll
zealous basalt
Hah
tropic trail
When are they getting man totems?
Their current ones are so small
Even when they wear two
when are female dwarves getting facial hair
i'm sick of this human propaganda of shaved dwarf women
Next expansion, tune in
is Leeroy Jenkins the new warchief
He's part of the council
strange falcon
that would make the expansion very rushed
tropic trail
atleast i have chicken
dense plover
“The 1-10 experience is shared among all races and both factions. It's called "Exile's Reach" and it's an island off the coast of Stormheim. Will be more new player friendly. There's no more starter zones like Northshire Abbey. The new zone will feature content that will be used at end game, such as World quests, mounts, vendors and finally ending with a mini dungeon.”
dense plover
It’s the first time
zealous basalt
SOMEONE SEARCH FOR EXILE REACH NOW
dense plover
After you get to 50, you never have to do it again
You can start your expac you want to try immediately
strange falcon
exactly
zealous basalt
No more
dense plover
Yeah. Makes me a bit sad. Hopefully they’ll find a way to use them
night swift
Poor wandering isle
zealous basalt
They fucking
limber mural
That's a piss poor decision
tropic trail
i'm turning the valley of trials into a ho house
zealous basalt
Fixed the world revamp desire that we dont need
limber mural
You can't just retire starting areas
tropic trail
and the northrend revamp technically
tropic trail
casualization
tropic trail
can we add chromie so wod never happened
dense plover
I imagine DK and DH will probably require you to have a character at 50 before you can start them, and have a unique 1-10 experience
tropic trail
yup
dense plover
Not by much? I 8magine they’ll be redoing the DH intro
And I imagine both will probably start at level 10
And 5ats probably the case for AR too
That’s
limber mural
i'm sad and honestly a little bit annoyed about that
tropic trail
what a8out the necromancer
tropic trail
you don't know that
languid yoke
we do know that
strange falcon
NEXT
limber mural
to add necromancer they need to remove UH DK
strange falcon
and demonology
limber mural
they need to flat remove UH DK
night swift
There have been no hints at a new class
tropic trail
my mailmans 2nd cousin is Chris Metzen
dense plover
There is no new class with 9.X
tropic trail
perhaps
dense plover
The real question is starting level for the two hero classes
night swift
If there was, why would they hide it until today when the xpac is already buyable
dense plover
We need someone on the floor to check
tropic trail
memes
dense plover
What the talent levels are for hero classes
tropic trail
or we can wait
zealous basalt
10-11
languid yoke
talent trees aren't implemented
dense plover
The levels are
limber mural
Hero class would have been in the opening ceremony. ain't gonna happen
languid yoke
the demo doesn't account for stuff like that
limber mural
Or new class rather
tropic trail
allegedly
languid yoke
the demo has NOTHING class redesign wise
zealous basalt
THE TALENTS WOLF
limber mural
there has not been any sign of a new class
languid yoke
so I wouldn't trust the talent tree levels, either
limber mural
at all
tropic trail
allegedly
languid yoke
YES I KNOW I WAS GETTING THERE
limber mural
the only people saying there'll be a new class have been deluding themselves
dense plover
The levels on the talent tree are changed on the ones I’ve seen
tropic trail
necromancer?
night swift
Shut
tropic trail
neck romancer
dense plover
15, 25, 30, etc
languid yoke
yes I've seen the levels too, sth like the along the lines of that, yes
dense plover
So I’m curious if DHs use that
languid yoke
but I kinda expect that to be placeholder
dense plover
Or if they still say 90 something
It’s not a placeholder. They won’t be switching back to vanilla talent system
tropic trail
yay
dense plover
I fully expect the “every level matters” thing to be better distribution of the ability ranks, more base anilitites, etc
languid yoke
can you just leave
tranquil steeple
that'd ruin the feeling of progress that they want to give players again
tropic trail
perhaps
tranquil steeple
which goes against what they said they were going to do
which'll bite their asses when it becomes known
zealous basalt
TALENT TREES
tranquil steeple
so overall a horrible idea to let players pick all talents at level 1
tropic trail
talent circles
languid yoke
can you PLEASE just leave
night swift
Alright we’re done here
tropic trail
why
night swift
Cause youre a troll
limber mural
no you're not
tranquil steeple
... redundant, useless ideas.
night swift
🙄
tropic trail
we never know
limber mural
yes we do
night swift
We do
limber mural
they won't add a class with 75% overlap
with one that already exists
if they go survival hunter on UH DK there is some potential if the overlap is removed
zealous basalt
Talent threes
flint meteor
i wonder if we will see aramar thorne vs muezala
we already got muezala stuff from the ilgynoth whispers
tranquil steeple
all talents at level 1 - goes against their plans to give players back a feeling of progression while leveling
talent circles - "technically" already have with azerite traits, and that sucked really badly early on, and a lot of choices are still VERY situational
necromancer - overlaps too much with already existing current spec identities (Demonlogy Warlock/Unholy DK)
zealous basalt
Ye
night swift
NANI
zealous basalt
One sec and I will put everything here
limber mural
Hunters get 30% crit boost every minute
tropic trail
in my defense level 1 talents were a joke
limber mural
And wallhacks but who cares about that
Rogues get a permanent combo point for 12sec
dense plover
It’s on wowhead guys
tranquil steeple
dense plover
Literally in latest news
limber mural
Rogue's is kinda ass comparatively
tranquil steeple
limber mural
Hunter's is amazing
dense plover
Follow up on no more starting zones
Each races original starting areas will be added into the story of the zone and branch off from there.
zinc sandal
Why is priest the only one that gets a negative side effect?
night swift
Ignore line of site wtf
zealous basalt
tranquil steeple
DH one sounds like ass except for Vengeance
tropic trail
wow a new ability so coooool
dense plover
That’s from an interview emu
tropic trail
it's a great idea
limber mural
otherwise I'll stay mad they're bombing starting zones
night swift
Why do priests get a penalty for theirs?
limber mural
Entirely possible other classes from other covenants have a penalty there
dense plover
Or that ^
tranquil steeple
Priest one I imagine either will get a longer duration, or lower CD
tropic trail
if you have 50 alts you get sick of starting zones, imagine spending 15 years playing through them
tropic trail
getting rid of them is great
tranquil steeple
man, MW monk's gonna have a bunch of AoE healing
zealous basalt
Time to watch the video
limber mural
There is also a rushing wind effect on it
tranquil steeple
it'll cost a good chunk of mana, but it's a lot of healing nonetheless
tropic trail
more mana for the mana god
tranquil steeple
more milk for the khorne flakes
tropic trail
more coco for the puff god
dense plover
An interview confirmed that DH and DKs start at level 10
limber mural
10?
night swift
Oh cool
tropic trail
why not 1
tranquil steeple
do Allied Races start at 1 then?
tropic trail
or 0
zealous basalt
@tranquil steeple
tropic trail
as they should've
zealous basalt
its a fucking nuke
zealous basalt
its
tropic trail
it's not a literal nuke right, that would 8e sweet
zealous basalt
tranquil steeple
OH BOY LET'S SEE THIS
zealous basalt
Monk abilities
tropic trail
WHERE
zealous basalt
ABOVE
languid yoke
Wait mrpeach, "Each races original starting areas will be added into the story of the zone and branch off from there.", what does that mean for Kezan/Gilneas/Wandering Isle?
tranquil steeple
OH BOY
tropic trail
OH BOI
zealous basalt
dense plover
Idk
tropic trail
is Gilneas finally getting retaken
woho
Ooooo
Two rising sun kicks in one ToD combo
That's awesome
night swift
Free cast Blackout Kicks
tropic trail
So Combo Strikes remains our mastery
Good
I love that mastery
for gilneas! all forsaken out! repair the wall
dense plover
Probably not
weak bison
makore
dense plover
It is already part of the silverpine story tbh
weak bison
did you put a pic of the mages ability cause im not seeing it
tranquil steeple
I don't see it either from Mak's pictures so here
weak bison
nice
tranquil steeple
wait actually it was mostly in the picture with the Monk covenant ability
zealous basalt
das what you happen when you are blind
weak bison
r00d
tranquil steeple
I mean, it didn't show anything about it being the mage covenant ability
languid yoke
yeah but silverpine is solely horde, and gilneas solely alliance
quest-wise
would be a good question for Q&A 
tropic trail
yup
tranquil steeple
it just said it'd deal damage over time, and increase direct damage by 25% for next 4 spells
tranquil steeple
so shhh 
mak
languid yoke
it doesn't now
maybe it did in classic
but Hilsbrad and Silverpine are entirely horde
dense plover
Huh
Maybe the worgen starting stuff gets integrated as part of the leveling?
For alliance
Since chromie is being used
tropic trail
aw
dense plover
We might see it in the deep dive
smoky mural
so do you guys think that these covenets after 9.3.5 will be allied races
smoky mural
like vamps and nerco lords for horde
dense plover
They have t been mentioned outside of vulpera and mechagnomes
zealous basalt
Thought you said in the past that they were just a general feature
smoky mural
they made money so they will bring them back
dense plover
I said they could be
It’s hard to know
We have no evidence currently of any new ARs in shadowlands
smoky mural
i mean after the exp in 9,3,5
dense plover
No evidence
zealous basalt
yet
smoky mural
we already have people like kale and draka and uther in the covenants already
sullen dawn
and apparently uncle tony
tropic trail
lightforged humans shrug
i had a couple ideas for AR i came up with like a couple months ago and they were fire
weak bison
whens 8.3 coming 🤔
ancient jasper
I'd say December with the Raid hitting early January.
ionic terrace
well that's annoying news about the DK start zone
ancient jasper
Hm?
dense plover
Awwww
dense plover
Oh well, guess that’s fair. Otherwise that story would be gone forever
ionic terrace
I thought I would finally be free of that damn torture quest
ancient jasper
Supposedly the new DK starting experience is just a small Allied Race-like quest line from what I've read
tropic trail
finally panda dks
ionic terrace
Wonder if they will have the new DKs on ptr
tropic trail
i've wanted those since 2014
ionic terrace
Maybe with the next build 🤔
night swift
If ptr is close to done, maybe not
ionic terrace
it's not
night swift
Then again they put all the dk stuff in but encrypted
ancient jasper
PTR is a long ways from being done
tropic trail
are the new dks a pre patch feature or
dense plover
I suspect it might come with next build
night swift
8.3
dense plover
Since they are wiping characters
ionic terrace
^
tropic trail
so like allied races
ancient jasper
Yep
tropic trail
i see
night swift
8.3 could be a good time to work at AR heritage armos since dks are half way to 110
ancient jasper
"We also learned that the Allied Race introduction questlines takes place right before the Shadowlands cinematic. Bolvar senses that Death is on the rise and tries to bolster his army, which explains the new races that can be Death Knights. The timing is notable as this means Bolvar was aware of Sylvanas' plan and was trying to prepare for her attack in advance--he wasn't taken by surprise."
From an Interview done
dense plover
Yeah we knew that
weak bison
would the november 6th reset mean that we could try the dk early on ptr? 🤔
ionic terrace
Should of just left Arthas as LK 
dense plover
Deep dive starts in 20 min
ionic terrace
go away illidan
tropic trail
illidan laughs in the distance
signal bone
deep dive starts in over an hour
night swift
Sylvanas’ weird magic
ancient jasper
Yea Deep Dive is in 1 hour 15 minutes
ionic terrace
Ye peach add an hour to that
ancient jasper
Well almost 20, but yeah
zealous basalt
is it free?
signal bone
where to watch the deep dives?
dense plover
Oh shit
signal bone
I also want to watch the diablo stuff
dense plover
I’ll be live blogging here for those that want it
ancient jasper
"Included in the base edition are Pandaren and Allied Race Death Knights, coming in Visions of N'Zoth!" Hm.. Does this mean Pandaren/Allied Race DK's are locked behind Shadowlands? Hmmm
weak bison
im more curious as to how we choose the faction when we play pandaren
ionic terrace
in 7.3.5
zinc sandal
@weak bison Probably character creation, or after DK intro
dense plover
Uh, allied races still require owning BfA don’t they?
weak bison
yea
zealous basalt
no
zealous basalt
😛
ionic terrace
wait
zealous basalt
they do ofc
dense plover
Yeah so uh, it’s very likely that they’ll become free when BfA becomes baseline
And the DKs will be locked
Which is part of why the old intro is still there
ionic terrace
hmm
dense plover
It’s sorta equivalent to a new class, except it’s class options
Pretty sure gnome hunter required owning legion
weak bison
are you mixing up cata and legion peach
signal bone
I thought all the dev panels were free to watch this year
dense plover
Well this is different then. You’ll probably need shadowlands
Which makes some sense since the story is part of shadowlands
ancient jasper
Nah new Race/Class combos have never needed the Expansion to my knowledge.
Unless it was an Expansion specific Race
weak bison
what about legion when demon hunters were new
ionic terrace
weak bison
that looks cool
dense plover
I’m just glad we don’t end up in the maw every time we die
tropic trail
that's sweet like wtf
dense plover
That’s what I was worried they would do
Even though it would definitely be cool the first time
weak bison
does deep dive need a virtual ticket
ionic terrace
i hope nola is here again
dense plover
Yes it does
cyan prairie
We need Nola to appear in next expansion!
storm marsh
Yes all of todays stuff need vt
weak bison
rip
tropic trail
is the entire death system getting reworked or is it mostly the same except visuals
dense plover
This is just visuals
We don’t have details on much because no deep dive
Come back in an hour
ionic terrace
lmao
ancient jasper
Huh.. Just had a thought.. I wonder what they plan on doing with Heirlooms
zinc sandal
Change their levels
tropic trail
what are they going to do with heirlooms upgrades tho
heirlooms themselves go to 60 without upgrades
zinc sandal
Change the upgrade levels
tropic trail
they go up to 10, theng upgrades to 20, 30 40 50 and 60, or start at 20 and go from there
deep pawn
so an interview confirmed that old dks and DHs are starting at level 1 and get 10 in their intro?
deep pawn
Someone said DKs start at 10 now, but their intro scenario is also kept?
ancient jasper
o_O DH's starting at level 1 is.. interesting.
tropic trail
ALL HAIL PATTY
deep pawn
I mean it really doesn't matter what level they start at if doing a single expansion gets anyone from 10-50
zinc sandal
It kinda does because
A level squish probably means we take the same amount of time to get to max, but each individual level takes longer to achieve
tropic trail
wonder whats faster lvling to 60 in classsic or in shadowlands
deep pawn
No, there is no way it'll take the same amount of time right now to get to 120 if you can get to 50 in a single expansion
No expansion's quest content is more than 15 hours
zinc sandal
It can if they tweak exp gain from everything
deep pawn
There's simply not enough quests in any given expansion
tropic trail
it will probably be easier on Shadowlands
ancient jasper
^
tropic trail
so like 43-47
languid yoke
Ion said it will be shorter, which it should be
deep pawn
so you'll need to do one full expansion and one zone of another without heirlooms
zinc sandal
If not more
deep pawn
unless they make the exp of 45-50 the same as 20-40 it ain't happening
levelling will be super duper fast
night swift
I feel like vanilla zones would be the beat for leveljng
deep pawn
And it sounds like that's the goal
night swift
Cause theres so many of them
deep pawn
"Get into the game faster than ever."
tropic trail
what if theyll announce necromancer in deep dive panel?
i mean after you level 2-3 character leveling gets slow asf
deep pawn
We’re also updating the new-player experience to showcase more of the best World of Warcraft has to offer. New players will begin their journey in a whole new level 1–10 experience. Players will then be able to level from 10–50 in Battle For Azeroth or any expansion they wish to experience from start to finish. Finally, they’ll move on into Shadowlands, where players can go from level 50–60. This ultimately means that leveling will be faster, and players will be able to experience the complete story of an expansion while preparing to journey to the Shadowlands.
okay, so you'll get to 10-50 in a SINGLE expansion
languid yoke
anurosa are you trying to be annoying on purpose or do you just not want to accept the hard truth of no new class
normal mango
hopefully there will be some OP enchants opening up with the level squish, they also used to sell well. (hidden satyr, elemental force, shoulder enchants, etc)
deep pawn
Its gonna be silly questing in BfA zones and getting a level every 10 quests
languid yoke
I never said I was annoyed
deep pawn
or less
tropic trail
im annoyed
languid yoke
I asked if you are trying to be annoying though
deep pawn
They better blow me away with the unpruning to make me okay with no new class or spec
languid yoke
and yeah 1 xpac being enough for 10-50 seems a bit ???
long blade
im glad there is now new class
deep pawn
WoD is the fastest exp ever
zinc sandal
I'm totally going for WotLK
languid yoke
but I'm ok with it
weak bison
i think i found a efficent way to level
long blade
they gotta improve the existing ones
normal mango
wod levelling was always just bonus objectives anyway, legion levelling is invasion.
languid yoke
inb4 they remove treasure xp from WoD
weak bison
go to legion first to get a artifact, then bfa for necklace, then do whatever you want to do
tropic trail
remove wod from the game
deep pawn
but yeah, the goal is probably 15-20 hours of questing to 50 then you get to play the current expansion
Nah, I'll gladly level characters in WoD if I can do everything
Right now you get to do Gorgrond only
I miss Spires and Nagrand
normal mango
hmm intersting thought, grabbing heart + 1-2 azerite pieces then blasting mists content instead or something.
strange falcon
if they do the "moving to class identity rather than spec identity" well i think people could forgive them for no class
since they will technically be all new classes
deep pawn
the whole class identity thing feels pointless to me, but maybe they'll surprise me
strange falcon
i mean,classic fanboys arent wrong on that specific subject
zinc sandal
It's all so dumb. Lemme be a priest in plate.
deep pawn
they kinda are. I despise classic classes
strange falcon
that as a mage,it's not like you suddenly forget how to cast ice nova
steel venture
Get the SW armor mog laz
ancient jasper
So y'all think Paladins will FINALLY get Kings/Wisdom back for all specs?
strange falcon
when you go into fire
tropic trail
if you aren't excited for shadowlands, atleast dota is getting a remake in reforged
i hope
night swift
Oh
normal mango
Dota2 was ported to source 2 in 2015
strange falcon
portal was an indie game by two dudes,that got hired by valve to make it with a big budget
tropic trail
i think CS and Team fortress were actually mods for HL
oh right portal, i almost forgot
it's almost like, they don't make games anymore
strange falcon
normal mango
they made artifact recently (card game) so they're moving back into making games
tropic trail
whatever happened to HOTS tho, it just disappeared
atleast hearthstone is still good, it's warcraft so
strange falcon
@normal mango except artifact was a massive catastrophe
you had to buy it to play it in the first place
and it was down to 500 players in less than a month after release
tropic trail
Level 1-10
New characters will go through an introductory tutorial from level 1-10 to learn the basics of the game in Stormheim. This will involve teaching players how to do navigate the game world, the basics of their class, and a mini-dungeon.
WHAT
strange falcon
@tropic trail only for new players
if you have a lvl 50 character,you dont go through it
strange falcon
idk why they chose stormheim lul
zinc sandal
Neither
strange falcon
@tropic trail 50 is lvl 120
tropic trail
oh damn
strange falcon
probably lvl 40 for lvl 100
tropic trail
well with the new leveling, nothing to worry
cause i never reached 120
@strange falcon i thought that was for starting a character?
strange falcon
@tropic trail when you start a character as a new player,you go to the stormheim tutorial apparently
but after you already have a character at lvl 50
you dont anymore
is what i've gathered from interviews
tropic trail
let's hope they tell us who the new warchief is in like 20 minutes
zinc sandal
40 minutes
tropic trail
so where would you go at lvl 1 if you already have a lvl 50 @strange falcon
lethal folio
Is there no panel today?
strange falcon
@tropic trail probably the starting zone you've always gone to?
or just to chromie right away?
idk
weak bison
how can we skip the tutorial? by doing it once?
strange falcon
i'm not a dev
zinc sandal
We don't know yet.
weak bison
mfw your mythic + gear gets replaced with some green gear
normal mango
we kinda do that every season anyway 😄
lethal folio
😄
normal mango
and there is a deep dive in 35min soroxx
lethal folio
Ok thx
tropic trail
@strange falcon Peach posted this earlier "Each races original starting areas will be added into the story of the zone and branch off from there." so i think we will have to go to that starting zone
woho
also DH & DKs start at 10
lethal folio
I think all classes start at lvl 1
strange falcon
@tropic trail maybe if you have the lvl 50,instead of doing the tutorial,it's like ARs,where you spawn in the zone,and get immediately sent off
to the starter zone
tropic trail
it will not start until next year
lethal folio
So then comes 8.3.5 then 9.0
lethal folio
Beta 7 months. Maybe release end of august mid septembet?
lethal folio
Hm on summer holidays? Think late summer
normal mango
Late Feb- Early March beta then late aug-early sept release imo
lethal folio
They give us this year not so much infomation
dense plover
I expect late July - mid August for release
lethal folio
Ha this sucks
dense plover
This is normal
It’s like this every year
We usually get release date 4 months before
With prepatch 2 before
zinc sandal
Sksksksks
tropic trail
coming at or before 31 december 2020 🤣
lethal folio
On 1st of april 😎 😂
unborn glacier
Placeholder
tropic trail
sure
dense plover
^
lethal folio
Nah i think they write it that we cant say its now end of july where is the game 😂
tropic trail
coming in8etween dec 2019 and dec 2020
lethal folio
Between now an 31.12.20 😂
tropic trail
they have to write that
if you can pre order something, it need to come out before the next year ends
daring dune
strange falcon
for bfa they said september 21
tropic trail
yes, august-september
strange falcon
and it came out in 14 august
lethal folio
Only 1 thing fucked me up. 3 editions why blizzard
novel zodiac
they need money
unborn glacier
Isnt there always 3 editions these days?
tropic trail
it literally says coming 2020
novel zodiac
bfa had 2 editions
lethal folio
Basic epic and heroic
sullen dawn
its 9+ months away, they dont know the release date
tropic trail
you are completly fine with basic edition
sullen dawn
this is them just saying "we dont have a date but it wont be after december because that's stupid"
normal mango
should've been uncommon, rare and epic..missed oppurtunity 😛
lethal folio
Its done when its done philosophie of blizz
unborn glacier
BFA as its base version, Digitial Deluxe and Collectors edition @novel zodiac
tropic trail
i remember that BFA was a big surprise with that release date
dead, deader and deadest
ill buy epic just need a bit more money xd
i'll just walmart XD
lethal folio
I only need the boost not a stupid mount
tropic trail
stupid mount?
sullen dawn
The bfa mounts were better I'll admit
lethal folio
Yah i dont like that mount in this bundle
tropic trail
horse and raptor or w/e it was
zinc sandal
But the mog
tropic trail
ill probably not get epic versions until collectors edition lol even thought just $20 is to upgrade to epic lol
it's a cloud serpent reskin i think
i think its more like the worm
zinc sandal
^
tropic trail
from ToS & the one from Stormsong
ancient jasper
Yea the Mind Worm thing
tropic trail
i dont have that1 yet
so its new for me
asmongold has to shave his head now right
i think that was the deal
long blade
what deal is it?
tropic trail
i think it was if the new expac was LK related he had to shave it off
he said its not
but it was obvious
i like him a lot
bolvar is still a lich king?
pine stirrup
He just wanted a shave imo
tropic trail
but dont give two fucks about his promises
dark furnace
I think it was a long time ago
zinc sandal
It's not really about Bolvar.
pine stirrup
Ion said that there will be new DKs risen from bolvar... so he is still kinda lich king ... but has no controll over the scourge
tropic trail
i think he's what Illidan was in Legion
they will be raised but before sylvanas attack
he unites us all
after that after helm destroyed theres no lich king anymore
in practice
in title he's still LK
pine stirrup
Let's just wait and see its gonna be... 
dark furnace
Aren't the new dks ressed before the cinematic?
zinc sandal
I think pre-patch will be about Scourge hordes striking against us
tropic trail
tehy r before cinematic ive heared somewhere
zinc sandal
Mobs of undead on the loose
tropic trail
didn't dks rez a dragon in legion
or was that the class mount
i was waiting for it in the cinematic
pine stirrup
Arthas raised sindragosa
novel zodiac
is someone going to stream the deepdive panel?
pine stirrup
We also raised the class mount
tropic trail
id tho i didn't play a dk in legion
normal mango
the player character ressed an old red dragon in Northrend which turned into their class mount yes
zinc sandal
@novel zodiac Streaming the stream is not allowed.
tropic trail
who said that
tropic trail
streaming is not allowed
novel zodiac
and what can they do?
tropic trail
if you get caught
normal mango
part of the virtual ticket agreement is not to stream it
novel zodiac
that's why discord has a share your screen gadget
tropic trail
recording movies in the theater is also not allowed
tropic trail
i don't endorse any illegal activity
ancient jasper
5 minutes until Deep Dive
normal mango
class reworks, maybe some skins (necromancer DK) and anima / legendary / worldquest new systems.
tropic trail
dance studio
ancient jasper
I'm curious if they'll say why no new Race or Class. Also hopefully go further in to detail about the new Character Customization
... I'd kill for Dance Studio 😦
dense plover
I’m ready to liveblog
tropic trail
i hope we get player housing one day
dense plover
Will be doing the deep dive
tropic trail
or dance studio
dense plover
So if you can’t watch I’ll be typing it here as fast as I can
tropic trail
Thanks
dense plover
With the wowhead stuff being a bit behind me probably if you want to wait
They’ll also have full statements once the panel is done
tropic trail
we dont need 8.3 just shadowlands
tropic trail
nzoth is a joke already
dense plover
I mean we don’t kill Nzoth
We defeat him
That’s not the same
I still suspect we are playing right into his hands
Panel is about to start
I won’t have images but I’ll get as much as I can
ionic terrace
what is this music
dense plover
Overwatch
ionic terrace
oh
tropic trail
i wonder... warcraft IV announcement
night swift
Peach you liveblogging this?
night swift
Awesome ty
lone marten
hype hype hype
dense plover
Paul Kubit walks on stage
lone marten
starting
dense plover
Quick outline - covenants, changes to leveling, classes, and torghast and the maw
dense plover
Covenants
Quest through 4 zones and learn about their covenants then make a choice at max level
Only 1 choice
I’m not gonna recap old info
Kyrians, neceolords
Necrolordd are liches warlords and spies
Night fae
Guardians of nature and Shepard’s of the cycle
Sheperds
Venthyr are vampiric punishers of the unworthy
Lots of factors in making your choice
Your sanctum
tropic trail
Does anyone still tries to call that zone Ravenloft?
dense plover
First everyone learns - non-combat but can be used in combat
Night fae have soulshape
Turn into a spirit fox
Fast speed and enemies ignore you
Lasts 10 sec
Multiple forms tho
Can be customized
night swift
Ooh I like that
dense plover
Glimmerfly runestag
All passives are on screen
I can’t take screenshot
Wowhead will have it
night swift
Ye
dense plover
Necrolordd have transcend the flesh
Shift you soul from your body and then move your soul and your body keeps doing what you were doing
Door of shadows is venthyr
Reaper teleport
Also a class ability
night swift
OW Reaper?
night swift
Oo ok
dense plover
Should feel like artifact ability
Showing off kyrian mage ability
Show off all mage covenant abilities
Contagion volt for necrolordd
Splash aoe plague damage
Night fae have an aoe channel that grants you haste
Venthyr have mirrors of torment summons mirrors that rotate around the target and any time the target does stuff they are rooted and take damage
Soul binds
Two characters can bind their soul
Each one gets power form the other
Multiple options per convene t
Venthyr examples
strange falcon
so symbiosis from pandaria?
dense plover
Arrogance - more crit to creatures with lower health than you
Deflecting flourish - parry rating and teaches you to parry if you can’t
New item type
Conduits
night swift
Wtf free parry
night swift
👀
dense plover
It’s 6%
night swift
Oh boy
dense plover
So@e empty slots for gems with abilities
Can switch fairly easy like switching challenges
Talents
Each has some backstory
Not bodyguards
Also
strange falcon
dense plover
Weapons and armor including backpack style cloakes
Upgradable Mount
World benefits
night swift
YESSSSS
dense plover
Necrolords can build their own abomination
And it will follow you within the zone
Full covenant campaign
strange falcon
wtf does upgradable mount mean
dense plover
4 sets - plate
dark furnace
I guess like the cat mount from Mechagon
dense plover
So there is a set per armor type
strange falcon
dense plover
You can change your convenient but it takes time to rebuild relationship
I’m gonna end up having a character for each of these
zinc sandal
Same
night swift
Same
strange falcon
what does that mean tho
dense plover
Issues they’ve wanted to solve
What’s next for that
Leveling takes too long
Not every level is rewarding
west relic
The scaling world will be a very welcome addition.
night swift
(i just watched people drive of the freeway by u turning into an on ramp what the a tual fuck)
dense plover
Les by Paul from first panel
Fixed some of the issues
Led by Paul
Current level bands are rough tho
Some options
Huge overhauls
Leveling takes too long
Especially when all your friends are at max
And as a new player you feel abandoned
Not every level is rewarding
120 levels
Marathon or sprint?
Those are the two options they’ve had
Reasonable time per level but then it feels like to much work
Confusing timelines
Probably doesn’t need to be explained
Who is my warchief?
night swift
Lol
dense plover
All 4 in the room in picture
The Warchief shuffle
Loss of expansion stories
Pandaria has not been fully playable start to finish since mists
Most who choose it get through jade forest and half of the next zone before outlevwlint the band
Our goals
Streamline leveling
Much faster and bette
Choose the expansion level story you want
Make every level rewarding
Will also be touched on in class section
While doing this - good time to modernize intro without losing old stories
New level range is 1-60
Good level pacing
Numbers match fantasy
Every level should unlock something
New talents powers abilities or places to go
Significantly means 60-70% faster from 1-50
Choose your story - level 10-50 in the expansion of your choice
New starting zone exiles reach
They’ll go over it soon
Current characters will scale to match new range
120 becomes 50 and anything in between will have an equation applied to squish it
Balance should feel the same
Old content will remain soloable
Not a number squish
night swift
Oh thank god
dense plover
About having the number match the fantasy
New starting zone OR existing racial class zones
And DH and DK intro are in this 1-10 band
night swift
Oh damn
velvet wind
ew
dense plover
Racial zones are sticking around
First time is exiles reach
Your faction learned of an uncharted island and the expedition hasn’t reported back
You are part of a stronger one
Second force
Big zone
Classic monsters
Story is that an ogre has captured the forces and intends to sacrifice them to rez a dragon
tropic trail
this looks so cool
sullen dawn
Exiles reach looks like a preview of 10.0 revamp
dense plover
Introduced concepts
Stop the necromancer
Faction leaders attention
Then you go to your capital city
unborn glacier
This looks so cool
dense plover
Then into bfa first time
So first time through there is no choice
Bfa is only choice
So everyone has the story for shadowlands and the factions moving forward
tropic trail
necromancer?
dense plover
Existing players and alts can choose
night swift
Not a class
tropic trail
ffffffff
dense plover
Exiles reach or any of the existing starting zones
They aren’t going away
Exiles reach is an option
Then capital cities
And chromie reaches out
dark furnace
This sound great
dense plover
Helps you choose an expansion
Outdoor timewalking
10-50 in any story you want
Can still wander around the world and mix and match if you want
Around level 50, you enter shadowlands
sullen dawn
This is all prep for world revamp mark my words :p
dense plover
Fancy new level flow picture
Exiles reach BfA and then shadowlands
For new players
Allied races start at 10 and go directly to chromie choice
night swift
Oh ok then