Also telling from the Cienmatic.
#beta-ptr-spoilers
normal niche
Cinematic
like a lot of different locations portrayed and shown ingame,
the CGI Cinematics do a good job of showing them as bigger stuff
The part where we fight arthas looks really good
vernal juniper
A good point, they had no talk about 8.3.5 so it hopeful will not happen. A sad thing is that they will have no give a date of 8.3 and the 9.0 will happen or before the 31 Dec 2020
normal niche
and when Bolvar placed down his weapon, is that supposed to be remorseless winter?
slender summit
Can you submit questions for the q&a?
vivid harness
slender summit
Where
tranquil steeple
I mean, why talk about 8.3.5 when we're still testing 8.3 stuff on PTR
slender summit
Gonna keep asking about new class and race
unborn glacier
I wanna ask if they will relax the spec-lock of Artifact appearances. I was Thas'dorah on my Hunter.
want*
limber mural
paladin Bastion class ability is Judgment/HShock everything around you on a 1min CD, currently
unborn glacier
ty
limber mural
fyi
vernal juniper
@tranquil steeple with legion or BFA (can't remember witch one) they did, they talked about the future patch and future exp.
probably was at the end of legion
sullen dawn
AoE stun?
vernal juniper
with 7.3.5/7.3 on ptr, and cinematic of bfa
tranquil steeple
I mean.. 7.3 for Legion was Argus, and 7.3.5 was general complete unlock of everything there provided you had progressed through the Argus content
limber mural
@sullen dawn judgement is the increased-damage-from-next-spender hammer
and HShock is the heal/damage cast from hpal
tropic trail
tranquil steeple
so either they've planned something for after 8.3 goes live, or we've already gotten a view of everything they planned to be at the end of BfA, and 8.3.5 will just be an unlock patch
slender summit
@vernal juniper btw, I doubt your covenant ability goes with you into dungeons and raids, so I don’t think there will be a “best” covenant
zealous basalt
OSHIT
unborn glacier
Fuck
tranquil steeple
gawd daym
tranquil steeple
I just loaded the page myself and was going to mention it
but then you did it Mak
vernal juniper
@slender summit if they will avaiavle only on world pvp/pve than they will be chosen only for the final reward
probably a mount or so
sullen dawn
i want playable kryian
vernal juniper
and players will take the badass one
slender summit
Honestly hope that’s how it is. I doubt Blizz would want us flocking to one single covenant
sullen dawn
war mode between 4 covenants is gonna be hilarious
velvet wind
You can change Covenant
limber mural
@sullen dawn I'd imagine that'd be the case. They're basically better Nightborne
sullen dawn
i wanted redeemed but kryian will do
unborn glacier
Ew
velvet wind
but it isn't easy
slender summit
No point then
unborn glacier
Really? Why? Why cant our choice be permenant?
slender summit
Literally no weight to your decision
unborn glacier
^
vernal juniper
you can but if it is endless, is better to level 4 alts to get all rewards
slender summit
I really don’t like the fact that you can switch.
strange falcon
unborn glacier
It should be like the Aldor and the Scryers
slender summit
Imagine actually having rpg elements in an MMORPG
velvet wind
maybe they are wrong, we still don't know jack shit
slender summit
Hope so
worn crown
I love the fact that you can switch. It should be hard to do so, but if you change your mind would suck to be stuck with one cov all xpac.
strange falcon
i will say it now,the 4 covenants will give us 4 races o.o
deft carbon
any news about worgen customiяation?
zealous basalt
Make people. Be hated with the old Covenant
slender summit
True
zealous basalt
Or some penalty
vernal juniper
what's the point to add even more races...
slender summit
If you switch, since they are literally said to be sects, your old covenant should become hostile to you imo
strange falcon
if you want to change covenant you start at unfriendly with the new covenant instead of neutral
ez
zealous basalt
Ye
slender summit
Nah
zealous basalt
Make it like
slender summit
That’s bad imo
zealous basalt
Not worthy to change
slender summit
If you change it should have some like huge downsides imo
vernal juniper
As said the best way is to level 4 alts, with the new system should be easy
strange falcon
you cannot join that covenant back because you're hostile,and other downsides
unborn glacier
Id rather the choice be perm and the other Covenants be hated with you. I want my choice to have a consequence, not just a meaningless choice
slender summit
I wonder if some covenants are hostile to each other? Would be cool imo
tranquil steeple
"To the Maw with you," [ YEET ]
slender summit
Would actually make you have to consider what you choose
vernal juniper
A good way can be yo be hated with all if you swith, and you need to grind re up to friendly. In this way people will not change every 2 minutes.
strange falcon
ion said pvp,so maybe all covenants are hostile to each other in warmode
slender summit
For example, I could see the necrolords allying with the sanlayn (can’t remember their name so calling them sanlayn)
While being hostile to the Lydian
*kyrian
Got some diablo vibes from the feature trailer and I love it
zealous basalt
Someone didn't freaking read the God damn descriptions
zealous basalt
Necrolords aren't evil
zealous basalt
tulip sun
I loveeee the customization
zealous basalt
San layn are
tulip sun
I just have a small concern
slender summit
Yeh, don’t remember the covenants actual name
storm marsh
I just hope they won't forget about Allied Races customization, I wanna have more options for my void elf too
tulip sun
Does anyone else have a concern with all types of trolls suddenly being merged into the main troll race? Which is story-wise darkspear/jungle troll based. Unless they add a quest explaining it or a new starting zone, I will be a bit eh on the idea,.
velvet wind
I thought that too
slender summit
That’s a definite concern
tropic trail
zealous basalt
I honestly
Between you all
I expected him to lose
We never saw something about Bolvar's lk strength
tulip sun
I am glad I am nto the only one with such a cocnern
zealous basalt
Like
sudden oak
I mean he doesnt have frostmourne anymore
zealous basalt
Ye
sudden oak
that was a lot of the LK power
tulip sun
I just can't get behind the idea of the core races stick to the idea of being darkspear/jungle troll, or a bronzebeard dwarf.
zealous basalt
Like for real
tulip sun
if the core*(
slender summit
@zealous basalt for example, the Night Fae and the Necrolords are opposites. The Night Fae represent nature whilst the necrolords represent death and rot and decay (Ion said so)
zealous basalt
And they not be evil
slender summit
Ik
zealous basalt
I thought you mean San layn
slender summit
Never said so
pulsar iris
what even is evil
slender summit
Oh nah they’re evil
zealous basalt
Yo mama
pulsar iris
what evil means
slender summit
Don’t remember the actual covenants name tho
sudden oak
I really want vamps
pulsar iris
my mama is not evil. i wish she was. but she isnt
dense plover
sudden oak
at this point idc if they are san'layn
sudden oak
but I want vampires
slender summit
And also the vethyr are kinda evil lol
pulsar iris
OWL ALLIED RACE CONFIRMED
dense plover
Gagagwywwgwhw
pulsar iris
ALLIANCE ALLIED RACE
slender summit
They’re kinda literally soul vamps
pulsar iris
also i liked the owl people
sudden oak
they remind me of the lightsworn seekers
pulsar iris
YES
strange falcon
vampires
slender summit
Hopefully
strange falcon
botani lookalikes
slender summit
Vethyr are vamps
strange falcon
drust lookalikes
sudden oak
WHAT ABOUT THE VALKYR?
pulsar iris
not botani
sudden oak
THE VALKYR
pulsar iris
they are deer people
strange falcon
@sudden oak BLUE HUMANS
strange falcon
you want BLUE HUMANS instead of owls?!?!?
ivory meadow
where is this info coming from?
strange falcon
nowhere
sudden oak
NO I WANT GIANT WINGED BEINGS
pulsar iris
BUT OWLS
strange falcon
i am speculating that we will get the 4 races from the covenants
slender summit
If I can’t reroll into this I’m fuckin mad
pulsar iris
i want that tmog
strange falcon
we know blizzard can design a race to be player-able from scratch
slender summit
That could be their heritage armor
uncut lintel
there girl versionS?
zealous basalt
And with allied race system they don't need to wait a expac
slender summit
Idk
zealous basalt
Like
slender summit
Not that we’ve seen
tulip sun
Ya
slender summit
How will old raids work?
dense plover
We will see more info tomorrow and Sunday from panels and interviews
slender summit
Will they be downscaled to like, level 20 or something
ancient jasper
I'm.. kind of hoping they aren't as broken as when Blizzard did the first iLvl squish.
tulip sun
I am hoping someone asks about the customization and lore implications
I just can't stop thinking about it
dense plover
Individuals splinter off
tulip sun
Customization is not about being the unique stand out.
slender summit
I mean, by now you can solo legion mythic, but will I still be able to solo legion mythic at level 60 for example? Will it be downscaled to level 40?
dense plover
By not having the customizations be races they are making individuals an option
slender summit
Or maybe 2 man it
tulip sun
Or they are just having minor tribes join the horde
and making the "Troll" race a Mag'har type situation
tropic trail
tulip sun
The idea that they don't introduce a quest or explanation for ti makes me worry.
slender summit
Old raids are gonna be p weird with the level scaling
For example if it’s just that it’s 10 levels under the current tier classic raids will be like, level -20
storm marsh
Does anyone know if ALL races or only races up to allied races are recieving new customization options?
ancient jasper
Don't know yet. Might learn more tomorrow during the deep dive
tulip sun
All races to Pandaren
NO ARs
From what was said
We have seen Troll, Dwarf, Undead and Human
and we were told about Draenei
The rest have not been commented on, but it is easy to say they'll get something
storm marsh
But the blue notes say All races
languid yoke
AR too
tulip sun
I have doubts on the AR.
storm marsh
That should be a question at q&a
storm marsh
Whose post, trying to find it
languid yoke
oh oops my 1 AM brain missread
tulip sun
Ya...
sullen dawn
we know it goes up to blood elves/draenei at least
anything past that is speculation
but Ion said 'original races' in whats next so pandaren would be cut off
storm marsh
But i must, if allied races get customization options, I could bet void elves get high elf options
tulip sun
Because races are split into two groups
sullen dawn
they wont
tulip sun
The original or core races.
sullen dawn
he said they wont
tulip sun
and ARs
night swift
They wont
sullen dawn
it's core races ONLY
storm marsh
Relax
sullen dawn
i am relaxed
just clarifying
blood elves apparently get blue eyes and tattooes options
to be high elves
tulip sun
Uhhh
Where did that come from?
Nothing for Sin'dorei was commented on that I have seen
storm marsh
Lmfaooo if that's true, ill have to prepare the popcorn
sullen dawn
that the info we get tomorrow will make us think this is wow 2.0
peak fern
waaaait whaaaat
sullen dawn
the classes are gonna have a LOT of buttons
novel zodiac
the alliance will cry so damn hard lmfao
peak fern
high elf blood elves? 🤢
sullen dawn
and that convenants could replace factions in 10.0 in old azeroth (but i think that was just him speculating)
he prolly just likes the idea
tulip sun
...v.v
sullen dawn
cos its way to early for blizz to mention that
but the main thing is today was a taster, tomorrow will give us a lot of info
storm marsh
I wonder how did they came up with draka. I think that version of draka is the one we've only seen in warcraft movie
peak fern
yeah 🤔
sullen dawn
he also said the paladin kryian ability is badass (like captain americas shield)
"we're going to look at priest in a whole new way tomorrow"
storm marsh
When they talked about class identity, the first thing that came to my mind is how ppl dont like the way shadow priest went from shadow to void focused
sullen dawn
i prefer the void focus
dark furnace
Is the transmog questline available now?
storm marsh
I also like the void focus... but i want the shadowform visual changed
@dark furnace apparently yes, i dk if someone's trolling. There should be something on a mount you can click
tranquil steeple
it's a tad hard to see, but that tiny "console" is interactable, and will spawn that NPC for you to pick up the quest
peak fern
whaaaat
tranquil steeple
for the ones who want a close look on the NPC giving the quest (and the Armor itself)
peak fern
RIP Gilneas, the best starting experience out there
median fox
I think it's a good gameplay idea but they will fuck the lore for the news players
Oh yes Ola
dark furnace
Ok, so we start in Stormheim
Then we meet Chromie who takes us to the older zones
And then we get to the Shadowlands
tropic trail
yes
peak fern
oh well
median fox
By the way i'm very hyped about this extention and her features
peak fern
it looks interesting
zealous basalt
So
strange falcon
Its only for new players
zealous basalt
It's like Destiny 2
strange falcon
You can still do old starters
zealous basalt
Where they changed leveling ways
median fox
Please don't talk about Destiny
dark furnace
And the new starter zone
median fox
Vade retro satanas
novel zodiac
what about allied races?, what lvl will they begin?
median fox
But
novel zodiac
lvl 10 flying if you have the path finder?
storm marsh
I guess we will find out about that in beta
median fox
Yeah but if you want to go in Pandaria , there no Pathfinder and news players will be lost i think
modest temple
most ppl have a mount at 1 with that bike. 10 isnt much of a stretch. i can see ARs just starting at 1 as well actually
median fox
I'm a little bit scared about the class reworks and when they said " A leveling faster than never "
ancient jasper
Hm.. I'd say Flying at 30
pulsar iris
well they said you would experience a whole expansion to level up from 10-50
ancient jasper
And Mounting at 10
pulsar iris
so probably it will be pretty damn fast to level
median fox
I don't really love the leveling but is a part of WoW's spirit
So delete that for the last expension is uh
tropic trail
does it really matter, i mean the mount part, its only 50 levels 
pulsar iris
oh i do leveling new characters
ancient jasper
.. Why? You're halving the levels, but keeping Mount at 20? So you have to level 1/3rd of the way before you can Ground Mount? Nah.
limber mural
I think leveling will be streamlined if you choose
limber mural
I think if you choose to take a long way round it'd be not too different
tranquil steeple
tbh, I'm not proud that I'm 120
tropic trail
as a multiboxer i approve of this new leveling
tranquil steeple
I'm happy I'm done leveling
pulsar iris
eh im not proud. i just enjoy having one more character to farm tmog
unborn glacier
In classic you have to wait 40 for mount. 20 for mount in retail is just a good choice. 10 would be stupid
median fox
Yes , that was i mean
pulsar iris
i mean i never bothered leveling more than 2 toons in bfa
in legion i had like 8 horde and 5 alliance characters at 110
tropic trail
can't wait to farm the hell out of shadowlands with 10 druids
pulsar iris
in bfa i have 1 horde and 1 alliance
median fox
Ranger , the game evolve
pulsar iris
@tropic trail my goal
tropic trail
multiboxers arise!
median fox
I think i will use sesame at a druid. After i will see the during of a leveling
tropic trail
oh
median fox
This class is so multifonctional
ancient jasper
Who cares what level you have to be in Classic to use Mounts? Right now you get Mounts on Retail at 1/6th of max level. So getting Mount at 10 would make sense since that's 1/6th of max level. Level 20 for Fast Ground Mounts and 30 for Flying.
unborn glacier
@median fox Yes. And 20 for mount and 40 for flying is a good choice for this evolution of the leveling system within the lvl squish. Getting mount at 10 is like handing out a trophy for doing nothing. 20 seems like a decent choice for those who choose to stick to it past lvl 10
ancient jasper
Ranger referenced it in his last response.
median fox
We have 15 years of content , we have to go faster than classic for up the all content or it will take one complete year for one caracter
unborn glacier
Lol wat?
ancient jasper
sigh Gotta love people who insult you to try and prove a point.
unborn glacier
Insult you
Attacks argument
wat
Dude, do you even know what ad hom means? I said your argument was ridiculous, not you. Grow up. Stop feeling attacked because someone disagrees with you.
@median fox Not even Classic takes a year to get to 60.
median fox
By the way , i'm a little bit dispointed about Sylvanas and how she's powerful
unborn glacier
If you think not getting mount at 10 means it will take a year to lvl, is really stupid
median fox
@unborn glacier I talk about the during of classic lvlup with all the actualy expensions
tropic trail
it will legit take a few hours
dark furnace
I think Apple means that if it took as long to level as in Classic it would take a year if you had to do all content to get lvl 50
unborn glacier
You will get people who optimize the fuck out of lvling and reach 50 in hours
median fox
Exactly Fiskian
unborn glacier
Even then, Fisk, thats not true
tropic trail
i leveled my hunter a few days ago in 1 day 19 hrs played time 1-120
dark furnace
Yeah, I know
unborn glacier
Even if we leveled in retail like we do in classic, it will not take a year
dark furnace
yeah
median fox
I'm confuse , i don't know where i am at my argumentation
dark furnace
I just tried explaining
median fox
So
unborn glacier
Even if you casually lvl, it will take 2 months max
tropic trail
they even said they want to make leveling faster
unborn glacier
^
median fox
Let's forgot all about this conversation uh uh
dark furnace
These echoes for the transmog have really low drop chance
unborn glacier
Likely, they are talking about, if you are lvling as inefficiently as possible, by the time you are done the xpacs zones, you'll be at or extremely near 50
dark furnace
Yeah, telling a connected story instead of moving between zones
They tried fixing it earlier
unborn glacier
Picking an xpac and leveling from low to max throughout the entire xpac
dense plover
Apparently the way it works, is 1-10 is a tutorial zone and at the end you talk to chromie and pick an expac
dark furnace
yes
limber mural
ew
dense plover
It’s unclear if this means racial starting areas will be used, or if they will be replacing all of them
dark furnace
I imagine it is because all content is out of order
And now it makes sense to have that choice
dense plover
It’s not literally a tutorial
Think of it like the pandaria starting area
But evergreen - independent of expansions
Pandaren
median fox
I love the Pandaria like nothing but i never do all zones because i was out of levels
unborn glacier
That is quite literally my wish for lvling. Minus the 1-10. In my mind you would do a tutorial quest to introduce you to the base systems and then you choose what continent you lvl from 1 to max in
dark furnace
I imagine it could get tedious if you have to do it many times
Since its the same for every race
foggy abyss
Do we have more screenshots for race customization ?
pulsar iris
dude i've done the same starting zones more times that i can count
dense plover
It only works that way the first time apparently
pulsar iris
trust me, it isnt that boring
unborn glacier
Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
dense plover
This is the word I heard from someone on the show floor
unborn glacier
Hunter
dense plover
I’m certain we will get more details since the changes will probably be in the prepatch
unborn glacier
uwu
dark furnace
I already have a hunter
unborn glacier
MAKE ANOTHER >:D
dense plover
Well what do you want to do with it?
unborn glacier
^
pulsar iris
play the game
dark furnace
I'd want to try tanking with the monk
unborn glacier
lulw
signal bone
why not wait until the deep dive tomorrow before making a decision
dark furnace
But I play a mage in classic
median fox
We perhaps could skip the firsts 10 levels for directly go to what we want to do
signal bone
since they're going to be talking about classes
dark furnace
So I want to test that in retail
dense plover
Mage in live is nothing like classic
patent oriole
are they going to be talk about bolvar some more...he intrigues me too much
dark furnace
I might boost a Pandaren monk because I grew up with Kung Fu Panda
median fox
Mage is really fun
median fox
Lmao
signal bone
plus monk can do all roles
limber mural
monk is a stand user
signal bone
they just have trash aesthetics and sets
median fox
Monk is very cool but it's specially
pulsar iris
monk is like star platinum
deep pawn
tropic trail
Please dont boost a panda
deep pawn
RIP Starting zones
unborn glacier
What I want for the classes in 9.0 are more simplified rotations, less complexity, more customization. So you can customize your rotation to be something that best fits your playstyle. Pick and choose from a variety of spells/abilities from your spellbook and piece together a rotation that feels the best for you
dark furnace
I would boost a Goblin monk if it was possible
unborn glacier
BOOST A PANDA!!!!!!!!!!!
pulsar iris
every time i used that spell that monk throws a bunch of punches i would yell ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA
limber mural
Wait hold on. Does this mean Wandering Isle gets retired
median fox
I think i will boost a druid or a paladin
deep pawn
yes, Wandering Isle is gonna be gone
pulsar iris
i'll probably boost a KT druid
deep pawn
There should be an option to do the tutorial or the classic zones
median fox
@pulsar iris i love you
pulsar iris
or a vulpera shaman
@median fox nice. can we marry so i can get a permanent visa wherever you live?
median fox
@pulsar iris Yes of course. But i leave in France so , i think it's not a good idea actually
unborn glacier
I thought gobos can be monks
pulsar iris
why that? can't be worse than brazil
dark furnace
Goblin and Worgen are the only races that cant
ancient jasper
Neither Goblin or Worgen can be Monks.
dark furnace
And lfd
signal bone
I don't like that you can't use covenant stuff if you're not in the covenant
especially since they hint that you'll be able to down the road
ancient jasper
Ah I'd forgotten about LFD
signal bone
stupid crap like this QOL stuff that they hold back for no reason is just dumb
median fox
Not false but we are not close than doing again a decapitation of the leadership
signal bone
like, "Here's an obvious thing that people will want and we know will bring player enjoyment, let's just not do it"
until the last .5 patch or something
it would also give mains something more to do, you could grind out all the covenants
giving you 4 x the content
dark furnace
I'm saving the boost
median fox
Oh men , we are not far about that
flint meteor
so any idea who that is beside sylvanas? perhaps muezala or this "death" entity
dark furnace
Probably Muehzala
deep pawn
no, that's the jailer
unborn glacier
The Jailer
dark furnace
The trolls might have descended from him
unborn glacier
Now, the Jailer might be known to the Sand fury as Mueh'zala, but right now we have no idea
sullen dawn
Hes one of the lords of death right?
unborn glacier
We dont know
sullen dawn
That the others imprisoned
unborn glacier
Like Ian said, no one in the Shadowlands knows anything about the Jailer or the Maw, because no one ever leaves
fleet sail
had a thought that The Jailer might've been a dead titan, then subdued
flint meteor
prob most of our main guys like anduin and stuff
dark furnace
I imagine every hero gets sucked in
dark furnace
And then our last hope is Gallywix
unborn glacier
@fleet sail Not possible. The Shadowlands pre-date the Titans themselves
flint meteor
+++
unborn glacier
Whoever the Jailer is, they existed before the Titans
flint meteor
i dont think neither sylvanas nor that guy will be the big baddie
fleet sail
so? Just because the Shadowlands were there before the titans, that doesnt mean that The Jailer was there before the Titans. All we know is that noone in the Shadowlands know anything about him
flint meteor
there might be something big they are working togheter to take it down
sullen dawn
I wonder if elune will play a role
novel zodiac
still waiting for that content lmao, not even new allied races, what a shit
median fox
By the way, good night guys , or good evening , i don't know
dark furnace
Good night
unborn glacier
Leon, even Stronk had to walk back his "Emptylands" statements, stop being immature
Night Apple
crimson jasper
there was a lot of new content shown, and who would have expected new allied races? they just announed a new pair so?
dark furnace
They did?
unborn glacier
Hes talking about 8.3
crimson jasper
Vulpera and Mechangnomes?
unborn glacier
A lot of really exciting, amazing content has been annouced
crimson jasper
oh absolutely l cannot wait
unborn glacier
I don't expect a new allioed race before 9.1
crimson jasper
super excited and the stuff looks solid
novel zodiac
you guiys said that i couldn't complain till i watched the "what's new panel", and i watched it, i saw nothing new, just few new zones (like always) and a revamp of the reputation system
but i don't see anything new
crimson jasper
well then you might need some glasses buddy, and wipe off that salt
unborn glacier
Begone
crimson jasper
anyways
ivory meadow
tbr that's just ignorance at that point
night swift
It is
crimson jasper
haters gonna hate, now THATS nothing new ;P
night swift
Ion said he was just “touching on” the subjects that were gonna be more in depth tomorrow
novel zodiac
we're getting a new class tomorrow?
crimson jasper
l look forward to the panel
ivory meadow
just searching for what you want to see then when it's not, everything is trash and cast to the wayside
crimson jasper
when is it tomorrow?
crimson jasper
ah so gotta set my alarm for that
unborn glacier
2pm EST
crimson jasper
ty
strange falcon
Leonel is the type of person thats laserfocused on a feature like "can you pet the dog in this game?" "No?" "unplayable"
The lack or presence of a new class doesnt inherently make or break the expac,especially if they are doing a big class rework like they hinted at
crimson jasper
it's cool we get legendaries again, and costumizable armor
novel zodiac
its not the first time that they talked changing the classes and doing poorly
crimson jasper
as much as people loved legion class feeling, l dont think they did too poorly with that
night swift
Legion to Bfa was awful though
crimson jasper
also, why already be negative and pessimistic about it?
novel zodiac
yeah
crimson jasper
ofc you would agree on the negative ;P
novel zodiac
i had to stop playing my main for 3 expansions cause it was awful
crimson jasper
if it is only 1 thing that keeps you playing a game you dont like, why not, just stop and move on then and let the people that enjoy it have fun?^^
novel zodiac
i didn't say that im not gonna play it
i just think that all what they showed
its the same as we have now but fixxed a little bit
strange falcon
In fact i wont be preordering
night swift
Eh
sullen dawn
They're taking the game in the exact direction I have dreamed
strange falcon
Because there is a probability theyll fuck up sure,but that doesnt inherently make or break the expac
sullen dawn
More in depth choice based factions
novel zodiac
i hope they talk about TF/WF tomorrow
night swift
The endless dungeon
novel zodiac
i don't know how that's gonna work
strange falcon
Its like adventure mode
sullen dawn
This is the direction I've dreamed of
fleet sail
i think the endless dungeon is a mix of the withered scenario and the mage tower
looked hella cool
sullen dawn
10.0 is gonna be a game changer I think...
night swift
Its literally palace of the dead from ff14
novel zodiac
how much permanent buffs are you gonna be able to stack?
strange falcon
You go through a level,get rewarded with a permanent buff,then so forth
Until you ded
novel zodiac
and what are the rewards if its endless?
strange falcon
@novel zodiac as many as you can survive
sullen dawn
Cosmetics and building legrndaries
strange falcon
And apparently the rewards are the materials to craft the legendaries
sullen dawn
Yeh
pulsar iris
why 10.0 would be a game changer?
sullen dawn
Because I think they're gonna apply to convenient system to all the main azeroth factions as part of the world revamp
Bloodsail Buccaneers 'covenant' etc..
sullen dawn
Yep
pulsar iris
what part of it?
novel zodiac
but choose your faction and go kill people
sullen dawn
I imagine the reps would turn into cinvenant level places/progressions
Sorry for spelling
novel zodiac
thanks, English is not my native language
sullen dawn
Like join argent dawn or join cenarian circle
white quartz
pulsar iris
yeah i would like that
white quartz
My lord this expac sounds amazing look at that link
pulsar iris
i dreamed about it since wod
and then legion came and i could be a shaman of the earthen ring
that made me so damn happy
novel zodiac
i don't get how are we gonna progress with the Covenants
storm marsh
I was talking about this earlier. Says all races.
dark furnace
No news on heritage armor though
pulsar iris
we get draenei tail length
dark furnace
Draenei and Trolls still dont have it
dark furnace
Fat goblin
storm marsh
If you guys noticed, even the male trolls get "earrings" options
i love it. i hope all races get bunch
pulsar iris
dont quote me on that, but looked like trolls might get a not hunched option too
storm marsh
they would be tooooo tall
pulsar iris
zandalari tall
terse patrol
Worgen still need an allied race.
storm marsh
well there might still be another pair of ARs for the pre patch
sullen dawn
Allied races dont get them
pulsar iris
not like "need"
sullen dawn
The customizations
deep pawn
they would've announced new allied races by now if they had more coming
dark furnace
There are 2 spots left empty
pulsar iris
what makes you think that toby?
sullen dawn
Nah Kyle, not if they're 8.3.5
dark furnace
It would be weird leaving them
storm marsh
toby, that is the screenshot of blue notes. i can have my hopes
sullen dawn
Ion specialficzlly said the original races
sharp ember
Wait no way are they actually going to make level cap only 60
pulsar iris
i didnt heard he say that
sullen dawn
He did
pulsar iris
well sucks
strange falcon
Considering the furthest release date is late december
fleet sail
@sharp ember well, thats what they announced
storm marsh
it just seems like you dont want allied races to get anything. let us hope
strange falcon
Theres going to be a reasonable content drought
Where the last 2/ARs can be slotted in
sharp ember
There making it into classic wow and that game is crap it just feels like a grind it is no fun
pulsar iris
what
sharp ember
Anyone here think that in the next expansion they should change the way the AH works so you can sell stuff/buy stuff across realms because I play on yersa which is now dead and I don’t feel like paying 25$ a toon to transfer them to a better realm
sullen dawn
An AR of that covenant
storm marsh
i would faint
storm marsh
i think the night faes use draenei female skeleton
sullen dawn
I was on mmo champ :0
sharp ember
I
sullen dawn
I would change my paladin to kyrian in an instant
strange falcon
It could please a lot of ppl,
With sanlayn lookalikes,Owl people tall as tauren,real undead ppl,and satyrs
pulsar iris
i would change my paladin to owl people
sullen dawn
Well it wouldn't be owls
sullen dawn
Itd be the blue people
novel zodiac
they use the satyrs skelleton
storm marsh
I'm still curious who will they give blue eyes option to 😛
sullen dawn
The blue people are the race tho
pulsar iris
what you mean @storm marsh
sharp ember
Anyone here think that in the next expansion they should change the way the AH works so you can sell stuff/buy stuff across realms because I play on yersa which is now dead and I don’t feel like paying 25$ a toon to transfer them to a better realm
sullen dawn
The owls are just their friends
pulsar iris
no
storm marsh
they haven't changed AH in 15 years, nor they should now
sullen dawn
Kyrians are the blue people
sharp ember
Why not @storm marsh
strange falcon
Bluemans are literally worse than LF dranei
sullen dawn
They look cool - like greek undeads
storm marsh
omg the owls are the new tuskarr. the most (un)wanted race
pulsar iris
give me tuskarr right now
strange falcon
They said that for vulpera
sullen dawn
I dont not want the owls, they just arent kryians
pulsar iris
i want owls
mystic heart
novel zodiac
diablo immortal lmao
pulsar iris
we wouldnt get vulpera too
strange falcon
Etc
pulsar iris
owl people are the best people
strange falcon
Id play owl people
novel zodiac
did they said anything about reputations?, are we getting just 1 (the one who you make a pact) or 4?
strange falcon
Twitter
night swift
Lol
storm marsh
not sure if this was mentioned or if anyone already posted this.
night swift
My friends and I already plan to push the dungeon hard
storm marsh
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/shadowlands It's updated
strange falcon
Oof
novel zodiac
oof
storm marsh
i do believe the loyalist tmog will be part of 8.3.5. i bet
novel zodiac
so we just picked a side and get fucked, not even 1 reward
night swift
Wow
pulsar iris
as said above, probably 8.3.5
night swift
All that build up
For a tmog or toy
I hope someone asks about hero classes with the new leveling at the q&a
storm marsh
btw there is an ultra hd bolvar wallpaper on the page
storm marsh
and images tab has hq pictures
night swift
Who knows if they’ll change how hero classes are acquired
ionic terrace
and just have everyone start at 1
night swift
DHs will feel a tad bit weird
But also dks are getting that new intro
Be a shame to have it only for 1 patch
ionic terrace
They could just remove the DH intro
Since it's locked in time, and the new thing is Chromie sending you
storm marsh
me want allied race
storm marsh
and i suppose if maybe they would be the rewards, they would be neutral
anyways, im logging off. 2:30 am. gn
novel zodiac
they look gayer than Belfs
strange falcon
You said AR
ionic terrace
retextured draenei reee
strange falcon
I reply with https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/260539358891868161/639911232257785866/SPOILER_882971.jpg
@storm marsh
night swift
Owl bois
pulsar iris
owl people are pretty much confirmed as AR
strange falcon
Not yet
strange falcon
Our incessant noise if focused in right places will make it so though
pulsar iris
but where are tuskarr
unborn glacier
I think they're weird
unborn glacier
Why not?
pulsar iris
because reasons
unborn glacier
x3
novel zodiac
does it count as a furry race if they have feathers?
pulsar iris
no
novel zodiac
good
unborn glacier
Yes
pulsar iris
no fuck
unborn glacier
5th furry race
pulsar iris
dont fuck owls
novel zodiac
:v
night swift
Oh people will
unborn glacier
They exist now, porn WILL be made
novel zodiac
im gonna look in rule34, there may be something already+
pulsar iris
pls dont
unborn glacier
@novel zodiac e621. Rule34 sucks
novel zodiac
oh fuck i totally regret this
unborn glacier
LMAO
novel zodiac
first thing i saw it was pandaren porn
unborn glacier
HAHAHAHAHAHA
novel zodiac
not even female
pulsar iris
why you sharing it with us
unborn glacier
XD
pulsar iris
d i s g u s t i n g
unborn glacier
I'm gay/bi, so, I don't mind male Pandaren 😉
novel zodiac
im never going to see taran zhu the same way
pulsar iris
i thought you were a girl wynter
novel zodiac
im not into traps but we can talk about it after 2 or 3 drinks
pulsar iris
pm me if you want to lewd KappaPride
unborn glacier
Hahaha
tropic trail
whats wrong with you 2 to talk about this cringe stuff here in the spoilers channel?
go talk about your hentai bullshit in a weeb related channel
deep pawn
or you can just be a normal person and let it slide, you sound unusually offended
they already said it was time to go BEFORE you had to put your nose into it
tropic trail
you sound like I have offended you?
dont take it personal, I couldnt care less if you like such things or not. just dont write about it here pls
deep pawn
It comes down to the words you used. It's only cringey to you, that is an opinion and was an unnecessary comment
ivory meadow
yeah tbr that was a little bit too much Elf
tropic trail
was it? Well I disagree. Some ppl talking about pandas sex and stuff is really nothing that should be written down here
ivory meadow
that I agree on
but seriously
there was a way better way to put that while still being frustrated about it.
tropic trail
Agree, Im easily to be triggered by weeb stuff 
deep pawn
maybe just young
unborn glacier
No need to mald about it
I'll never understand the irrational hatred for anime or those who like it
dark furnace
To change the conversation topic, what do you think this expansions Lords of War/Harbingers/Warbringers will be like?
I think it will be something like Lords of Death
deep pawn
it'll be Kael'thas, Draka, Cenarious, Uther
tropic trail
do you think we would get something like this?
dark furnace
Yeah
dark furnace
There has been every expansion since WoD
tropic trail
when did they get announced again?
deep pawn
there's a reason they mentioned those 4 in that hwat's next panel
tropic trail
next year right?
unborn glacier
Cenarius is alive tho
dark furnace
Perhaps with Bwonsamdi, Bolvar and some Shadowlands person
Or the souls of the zones
Like Kyle said
deep pawn
but it seems like nature is very connected to Ardenweald
calm plank
they used cenarius as an example of what kind of people would find themselves in what area
cause he was indeed there at some point
unborn glacier
^
modest temple
i wonder if there will be ocean realm for helya. we did go there once? i like the idea of a At World's End style of drop off
calm plank
but wild gods are capable of coming back from the dead so obviously he's not there anymore
dark furnace
I wonder if there are more people there than the ones announced?
unborn glacier
We brought him back from Ardenweald in Cata
calm plank
definitly
dark furnace
Xavius perhaps
modest temple
anyone in the last while went there
calm plank
yeah
but back then it just used to be really bad people that went there
and I feel like xavius fits that description
unborn glacier
No, Cenerius is an example. Kael'thas, Draka and Uther will be there for us to meet and talk to
modest temple
i wonder if it started when sylv committed suicide or when she made the deal with helya
dark furnace
If I can't meet Garrosh I will riot
unborn glacier
Which means, THRALL MIGHT GET TO MEET HIS ACTUAL MOM
dark furnace
Thrall will probably get stuck in the maw
calm plank
oof yeah
dark furnace
With the other heroes
calm plank
but we'll probably find a way to take em all out of there
dark furnace
Yeah
dark furnace
yes
And a reunion with Thrall and Garrosh would be epic
Since they are both probably in the maw
calm plank
oh yeah that could be cool
calm plank
tho would garrosh end up in the shadowlands since he died in quite a special place?
tropic trail
what still is weird is, that Sylvanas honestly thought Voljins Loas made her Warchief, as she stated in Before the Storm
curious if they retconn this
signal bone
any list of the new class abilities?
dark furnace
Speaking of him, where will we meet Voljin?
calm plank
maybe it was a greater entity that would profit from sylvanas's actions
not as far as I know wingthor
and vol'jin didn't go to the shadowlands
signal bone
I saw the warrior one and hunter one on stream
dark furnace
How will he fit into the story?
unborn glacier
Well, no, he was in the Shadowlands, but the Hand of valor bought him back
And at the end of our quests with him in bfa, he says hes going back to figure out what happened
zealous basalt
Did someone say lewds
unborn glacier
x3
dark furnace
This is the perfect time for Blizzard to make up for all the Warchiefs they shafted
calm plank
well if he went back to the shadowlands he'll probably be stuck in the maw
wait
will we see anduin meeting varian 👀
calm plank
that's the one thing I kinda dislike with the whole concept
it lessens all of the deaths a bit if we can just go and talk to them
calm plank
that'd be a bit meh imo
dark furnace
I know
calm plank
maybe we'll close the gateway to the shadowlands at the end of the expac
calm plank
(lore wise I mean)
cause if we can just go back there at all time it really lessens any death that happens in the story
also I hope that while in the maw there'll be a place with a ton of dead night elves
dark furnace
Yes, but if Anduin goes in there, we have to get him back somehow. And what if we got some people who sneak out with us
dark furnace
same
modest temple
i wonder if we will finally met tyr
unborn glacier
@zealous basalt What did I do?
dark furnace
You lewded
unborn glacier
lol
dark furnace
Am I allowed to say anything about the virtual ticket stuff?
deep pawn
what part?
dark furnace
The community night
west relic
uh
dark furnace
I want to make sure I dont break the rules
zealous basalt
Dirty things
Man
What a day
I think that after shadow lands we might get a new class
I suppose that's why they didn't add any class because they have to work in the existing ones first
novel zodiac
only if they do a good job with the current classes
deep pawn
I'm still surprised we didn't get tinkers after all the set up this expansion