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oh that transmog set
Is someone streaming the demo?=
The only cool thing is the heartstone animation
Pandaren death knights o-o
oh that's cool
and slock I think blizz will probably show some gameplay
ok
Kael Thas will be back
they did it for the bfa demo back then
"Death was merely a setback"
@dark furnace uther will be back
I do not link here but you can look on twitch
watch it while you can @vernal juniper
Woah! That's epic @zealous basalt
yeetus from existance
god I'm really hyped for the new customization options
hopefully they'll add some to the allied races too
Send the stream I cant find it
Oi ya skrub ya better link that shit on my dm
link to demo stream
that's a long time
3 people talking about Diablo iv
one of my friends has it but i don't
But no boost in the core edition
^
XDDD it was shadowlands after all
No ilvl squish
None of the shadowlands stuff should be in game yet
so maybe we will get a new class or a new allied race
slock you got a link?
D4 takes place decades later
@dense plover Nope. Eternal Traveler quest to collect motes of life is in
that's terrible off
Huh
Slock
Wonder how that snuck in
twitch
twitch/ ?
can't link here
dm
yeah randoms are streaming from blizzcon
so far, no damage squish no ilvl squish only lvl squish
havent found dm me link ?
dm me too
Also t&e are gonna stream some 9.0 later
Dark, non-linear campaign
what about him
The real question is, if they will make old raids and dungeons synced with the expansion later on
Oh if that leak is true
That’s Muehzuela
A death titan
And the loon matches
5 zone world
Interlinked
Weather and day night cycles
they need to squish ilvl or we are probably going up to 900 at the end of shadolands 😄
bruh that is argus's model tho
Shared open world in D4
Simultaneous development
Holy fuck
They didn’t announce the other 2 classes
But there’s 5 classes
argus was the titan of death all along
Same as before?
Should take the same amount of time
Just different numbers
But it sounds like they’re reworking base classes
Hopefully talents too
damn that was awesome
I saw for 1 second talents
is the same type of choiches
Well duh
wtlk-cata was good
Eh
wasnt J. A. "Ion" Brack a little bit sad?
I like new talents
The streamer said "talent tree disable is the same"
Is that the same number of talent rows?
Wow that's actually refreshing
idk if is definitive
Having talents every 5 leves
will there be another free panels?
having talens every 5 levels is the same shit we have now
Same number of talents
they are all irrelevant for leveling
Alright, I'll be watching these after work. @dense plover, Keep up the great work!
Hopefully they let you choose between legion and warlords
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/260539358891868161/639911232257785866/SPOILER_882971.jpg people are already calling for "new playable race"

is that a new gryphon mount people are using in the demo
Wait
🤔
its easy to find
Wow What's next is free?
search wow on twitch
what about owatch? will it be available for overwatch 1 players?
yes
yes
Closer look at D4 classes
any rogue here?
Sorta
MP for OW is cross game
^
OW2 is all the new stuff
Anyone up to compare to current tree?
D4 Arsenal system
Barbarian has 4 weapon slots and can use 1h and 2h in the same build
For what
D4 - weapon changes with the ability
Fuck me - D4 combat looks so good
Just - visceral as hell
there are 5 zones
Hmmmm
niiiiiceeee
Yes
in case you didn't know that
Maw is the 5th
It wasn’t in the trailer for some reason
Probably because it’s max level only
were the zones correctly leaked?
Yes
Some of these names are familiar
it looks kinda promising imo, much more than bfa
but only there?
Yes strong
wow pannel after d4?
Gold are not squished
Ofc it isn’t
Why do you want to squish gold
from where are you getting those screenshots?
Imagine a gold squish
you can conver them
dont give them ideas
reducing every source of gold on the game by 90%
why fuck the economy
I'm pretty sure wow employees don't read stuff, on discords like this
OH
so we're safe.
DRUID HAS PETS
Do we can play this wow demo with virtual ticket?
And the Diablo 4 Druid seems to have a badass guardian druid type of ability.
Was that always a thing?
because holy shit
Am gonnna play the shit out of druid
same
same
the demo you played
also that ass tree is same as on live
was classic
Nope, you can sign up for the beta however @vernal juniper
So far virtual ticket holders will gain: Deathwing for free on Heroes, and Beta for Warcraft 3 reforged.
and HS bg*
Ah, I missed that
I guess a new one
a shadowlands one
back what did i miss
you can test the new expansion now??
they can, at blizzcon
No new class
No new race
REvamped leveling without details
Lich king dead
Sylvanas dumb OP for no reason
people in blizzcon are playing it
oh ok
whoever is playing, can you check the warrior atleast 😦
yeah is very underwheling for now
the xpac was literally jsut announced
let see the panel but hype is around 0 for me right now
Lich King gone but The Bolvar lives on
also character tab if you can
guys, the game was literally just announced, we need to chill
awfully empty for an annoucement
There's another panel coming
why reveal everything the xpac was offering in the first trailer
BfA had allied races, context,HoA traits, Warfront, Islands, Lv 120, zones
yeah but for me right now nothing is "Whooooooah" for now is same game with new zones nothing new
Because it's common
lets see next panel
they did that since forever
what does the azeroth map look like now
because that's how it works
we got allied races and new ap system in the bfa reveal
artifact weapons and dh in legion reveal
Legion had zones, Demon hunter, invasions, context, Artifact weapon, honor revamp, Class order halls
shadowlands feels empty as fuck
whats next panel is coming
empty
as
fuck
We didn't needed a next panel before
That's supposed to be the first impression
it's supposed to hype me
Even the cinematic wasn't so badass to me
That cinematic was amazing
D4 has so much cool stuff
imo they used all the time of the openin ceremony for spectacles,and will give the level squish info etc in the whats next panel
Yeah, it was great
It was sooo bad
can someone show a pic of azeroth map whoveres in blizzcon, curious how the map looks like with the new zones
Sylvanas casually being dumb OP
Character customization, real talents
mah, nothing so good too
nobody cares about d4, we're talking about emptylands
I love how Bolvar's fire effects changed from red to blue
Picking on the Lich king 1v1
I was on my feet the entire time, especially when it looked like she was gonna put the crown on
That looked so cool
the game basically threw "SHE IS NOT HERSELF ANYMORE SHE IS EMPOWERED" at you
She isn’t just suddenly powerful
if you didn't get that, it's on you
sylvans going to lick king, destroy his power. Lich king like a critter to her for no reason.
Are the rewards for preorder already available in game ? (mounts, pet, boost ?) I know the allied races death knight isn't
yes
Look at Bolvar's fighting style compared to her though
Defintely a slugger while Sylvanas was agile
So she dodged pretty much all his attacks
duh shes a rogue class lol /s
I think it would've been K.O. if Bolvar hit her properly
no new talelt after 50
thats mean (for now) we have no new row of talents since legion
3 exp same talents
Bolvar had 10 haste while Sylvanas had 1000
Since I am confused
Her powers came from nowhere
With the level squish
That's hunter vs DK for ya
EMPTYLANDS 
Sylvanas is literally the most powerful mortal right now on Azeroth. If she can solo the whole ice crown and eazy beats the Lich Kings ass like that, then yea
Will the old xpacs be playable
She made a pact with death
now she can one shot the Lich king the legit incarnation of death in Northrend and a huge character in Azeroth's plot
It makes no sense for her to fight him ALONE
It's the lich king not a random NPC
@tropic trail everyone can solo lich king now, we need arthus to beat that sylvanas up
the saurufang cinematic was better than this one IMHO
LOL
Lol thats a bad take
..
this creates 0 hype to me
OPINIONS
bolvar isnt not even close to how strong arthas was as the lk
wheres necromancer class?
Unholy DK
imagine complaining about no new talents in the BLIZZCON BETA
how dense do you have to be
Honestly the hypest moment of the cinematic to me was Bolvar pulling a Remorseless Winter
So
the only question is, will those that died come back in shadowlands
for Shadowlands's features
That was the highlight for me
the 1st announcement out of 2:17
also, it does look like Sylvanas wont get a new model, right?
She might
🙄
Might still be fun but it's empty
can we f***n wait for the whats next panel
maybe ttheres too much to show in a reveal trailer
for holy christs sake
You dont have to play it ...
"we are going on the after death realm" -> aka everyone is alive on the demo.
Stronk just wants to hate the game
@night swift My dude If you're right Imma call you god
Stronk doesnt wanna wait
Then stop being a pessimistic goon
I started in MoP and it's the stuff I think about, day in day out
i mean they didnt even mention level squish or new customization system in trailer
"
StronkToday at 4:07 PM
And manage to fit quite a beefy amount of content
Yeah
it's Emptylands"
^
they used the time of the panel for Spectacle and nice things to look at,CASE IN POINT we KNOW a level squish is happening,but there was NOTRACE of it
in the trailer
which means
they'll talk about features later
there's no features
Meh I'll wait, but I truly am Unconvinced
The forest one
I think I'll go with treebois
Looked very cool
Oh
4 factions
So what would monks get?
new abilities get unlocked when you level with covenants
yeh including class specific ones
each covenant has its own campaign also
wow bastion is so beatiful and misty
Hey apparently it's very choice based
its awesome 😄
wow might actually be super alt friendly for once
means i can play multiple chaaracters without doing same content over and over
^
do horde and alliance get the same zones?
It'll be cool to see Kael'thas again
Yeah
ya
on the demos yes
o
guys based on the trailer, Bolvar didn't die?
no bolvar lives
I like the Maldraxxus one
he still lives
He might guide us
i just want to do the blue forest one on my druid
i want to see those dudes with tails
i doubt he gonna die
he just step down as the jailor of the dammed
I'm okay with Bolvar being friendly now that he isn't the LK
same
I still think he is technically a 'DK' though
I wonder if they will try repairing the helm
he prob going to get his daughter stuff
Dragonborn tho?
now
He's a fireboi
@dark furnace They'd need the Nathrezim
old model reused
I think the ones in the Shadowlands are related to the Nathrezim
I see a troll body type
They kinda look like it
Thin arms
It has to be Muehzala
Before the last shadow falls, the Father of Sleep shall savor his feast.
^
The leak that said muehzela is a titan of death
Makes some sense
Explains trolls too
Since they have no titanic origin
Which seems illogical
i think hes older than titans
He could be a titan from before the other titans
Doesn’t violate chronicles if the others didn’t know of his existence
i can't wait to the wow panel
Maybe? Or maybe he inprisoned himself
emptylands feels so empty
You don't have to say that every 5 minutes in this chat
None of those zones feel empty
please stop trying to make emptylands a meme
^
youve seen nothing yet
^
Also we have NEVER had bad zones with the new level design team
Not once
They’re always gorgeous
i didn't say that they look bad
have we seen anything of maw zone btw?
No
you're complaining about a game we know nothing about that isn't even in beta 😅
shadowlands lacks of features
We haven’t seen the zone
^
it's a TEST
Probably fully end game tho
we just saw the new zones and the covenand thing
this isn't the final product honey
not even a new talent row
here we go again
They just showed zones, AR and a quick look at heart and armor
in bfa reveal we got the hearth of azeroth and allied races
would you just wait
^
Yeah we got covenants
its literally 1 hr until deep dive
And we are getting a deep dive
The deep dive is free now
So they don’t have to cram into the reveal trailer
complain AFTER the deep dive if youre still not satisfied
And can explain stuff in detail without people fucking it what they want to say
I wanted a new class
until then you're just moaning over nothing
good point
ok, see you guys in about 2 hours
We get covenants instead - each covenant has new class abilities
So, DKs are raised BEFORE the cinematic, I wonder if 8.3.5 is Sylvanas attacking Icecrown and loyalists get to help her.
whats more each covenant has different abilities for ever class 😮
we dont know yet
Cinematic might happen in 8.3
so if i have 2 dks, i can have one in one covenant and one in another
We don’t know when the cinematic happens
It’s probably post raid
Bolvar still has power post helm
We know it's AFTER he raises new DKs and starts the expansion
We do not know that
^
it's in blue text
To combat Sylvanas’ assault on Icecrown, Bolvar Fordragon—the revered former paladin who took on the mantle of Lich King to keep the Scourge at bay—has raised heroes from among all the peoples of Azeroth to bolster the Death Knights of Acherus. With Shadowlands, pandaren and all allied races will now be able to become Death Knights.
Lots of info spread all over the place so it’s hard to know right now what’s actually happening
"A New Army of the Dead Rises: To combat Sylvanas’ assault on Icecrown, Bolvar Fordragon— the revered former paladin who took on the mantle of Lich King to keep the Scourge at bay—has raised heroes from among all the peoples of Azeroth to bolster the Death Knights of Acherus. With Shadowlands, pandaren and all allied races will now be able to become Death Knights."
they come with 8.3 though
that's what I said, the assault will probably be our 8.3.5 content
Probably post-raid
🙄
haha
i will /spit everytime i walk by one
No gun to your head
DK Vulpera you say 🤔
Totally what I'm making since DK is the only tank I don't have at 120
the post says every AR
Wonder what the starting level is gonna be
Yeah and the only non DK races are AR and pandaren
1
1
Which are getting DK
if we assume our level gets divided by 2.4 then 23
Wait
and out of the starting area at 25
What if they just allow you to choose your expac?
why 2.4? Because 120/50 is 2.4.
Kael’thas, who pursues vengeance on an enemy from his past while confined to Revendreth for the crimes he committed in life.
Like - freely
it will be like that, meaby
who wants to bet its arthas torturing Uther?
kael'thas in shadowlands: "TERRACE WAS MERELY A SETBACK"
Arthas last we knew was basically a wimpering child in a void
We will probably see arthas in shadowlands
I believe the leak that says Jaina and Calia will be searching for Arthas's soul
Good one Nightwolf xD
Don’t forget Tallis
what if instead of new class, they introduce new specs?
i doubt taelia cares about arthas
They’re not doing that
We have the basic feature overview
We are getting covenants
Which will add abilities to your class
customization is still up in the air in terms of what that means
Each covenant offers different abilities
has anyone playing the blizzcon beta bothered to check if we already have some new customization options, or if we have to wait to see them
No
could be wildhammer type customization for dwarves
Taelia because Bolvar
or spell changes
Bolvar is Taelias dad
SL
Jesus - they have the guy who made all the major wow cities on stage for OW panel
Yes
We know that
You’re more than an hour late
So will trials level caps be lower now?
no higher like 200 lvl
No, I mean, trial accounts
Those for people with no subscription
Like the boost trial?
No
Wow. That's terrible
Maybe 1-15
Cuz 15 is still first talent
It’s a trial it’s not gonna be the whole game
Hopefully they'll have a buncha abilities by then, then
I counted the abilities my twink windwalker has at level 20
It will probably not be more
They better be the same number in Shadowlands
It’s going to feel similar to now
But they’re probably going to expand base number of abilities since they trimmed too much and do want to restore some stuff
Tigereye Brew hype?
Crush my dreams, crush my dreams right now and say it won't be back
Probably not that
I dare ya, I double dare ya
Brews are brewmaster
why is blizzard twitch showing overwatch league instead of overwatch whats next?
Because that's later
Isn’t that happening on a different stage?
no i mean people are writing announcements right now
I thought it was happening now but on a different stage
its on blizzcon page right now
Yeah its happening on the not mythic stage
BlizzCon page? I watched the whole opening ceremony on YouTube
llul
Swedish map on Overwatch pogchamp
Theres a swedish one too
you can watch the panel in battle.net
I love Genji's new look
oh i was watching on twitch, weird theyre showing tournament there instead of whats next
He wears a hoodie!! 
Shesh
Coolboi genji
The negativity here is horrible
When is the panel
MAK
Hi
the panel is right now?
What covenant you gonna join?
ah wow panel.. should be the next one 
So am I wrong or does the feature video imply that Bolvar keeps some oh his Lich King powers?
I was almost gonna say what PETA would do to you for that xD
I think he kinda became a pseudo dk after he took on the Helm, even after the Helm is gone
Then I realized not all monks are pandaren
hence why he can raised new DKs
lore wise, we don't know much actually... like, why did the barrier break after breaking the helmet.. 
@velvet wind interesting
that's just my interpretation
Maybe because it was some sort of mcguffin?
Also curious what happens to Ner’zhul’s spirit
@azure estuary that was my first thought
Do you think that will slow down leveling a lot?
itll be the same i guess
; -;
we've seen something leaking out of the helmet.. maybe it was nerzhul
Bolvar looked so cheap
NER'ZHUL IS OOZE CONFRIMED
yeah
That Arthas was really good
Confirmed. Ahem.
but sylvanas is pretty stronk now
she just cheesesd throught the lichking fight, because DMG
I will say it again. Bolvar was too slow so Sylvanas had a speed advantage. Same happened with her fight with Saurfang
She's just too fast
They’ve full on made her a villain now. I wonder if they’re going to give players the option to be loyal to her in SL
Doubtful. If Id have to guess Id say Bolvar gonna get back at Sylvanas in the next expac
actually, she just want to free azeroth from "life" like no boundries between life and death..
i'm asking myself who or what that chained thing was
@deep pawn DID I just read PLATE armor?
Wah?
16 rather
so 4x cloth 4x leather 4x mail 4x plate from covenet things. if u wanty to unlock all mogs imagine amount of alts u need
well, they gave us a reason to play at least 4 characters
ALTOHOLICS DROOLING
Maybe they're account bound
I’m joining the golden armor one cuz my main is a Pally
And you can send em to your alts
each covenant is its own campaign
so at least 4 characters
That said, I really hope you don't need to make 16 characters to get each set
I mostly play leathers and plates so
Monk
DK
Rogue
Druid
Warrior
Pally
Hunter
All my characters
In my most to least played order
when does the wow panel starts?
So how many of us expected Sylvanas to put on the helm?
I was like
She just gonna put it over the hood?
i was like omg lich queen inc
and then she just ripped that thing apart and i was like oh my f god
when she put the helm at the front i was kinda afraid it was the case
that was pretty intentional
thankfully didnt happen
I'm happy Sylvie didn't kill Ballvar
no point killing
i'm sure he will...
Ballvar Foreheadragon.
@deep pawn where did you got that image with the armours?
wowhead
when I saw her taking the helm
I can see the headlines
I was like
H E A D L I N E S
DROP THAT THING RIGHT NOW
Sylvanas breaking the helm of domination is the biggest power move of history
oh, thanks, i was hoping to see all the armour variations
Bolvar isnt dead right?
nope
He didn't cut out his heart like Arthas did, did he?
undragondead
new DKs are raised BEFORE the cinematic
Fae
while he still has the helm
he lives and he will take a role somehow prob
oh wait
The new DKs are raised to counter the attack
ADVISOR OF MANDUIN
cant wait for 8.3
im guessing we will get the new DK stuff next week on PTR?
one skinny witch takes on entire scourge
probably
But what about Loyalist DKs?
100% loyalist
i don't see a problem with the dk loyalist helping her
the currents dk don't give a fuck about the LK
Me "So what are you guys doing now?"
DK "We're pretty much irrelevant now. Why?"
Wai wai wai wait Mak
They gave out covenant names?
names?
the races, yeah
The steadfast Kyrian of Bastion, whose discipline and duty compels them to safeguard souls from the mortal realm as they pass into the Shadowlands.
• The mysterious Night Fae of Ardenweald, who fiercely defend the spirits of nature from those who would deprive them of rebirth.
• The cunning Venthyr of Revendreth, who feast on the souls of the prideful and vain in a gothic realm of opulence and torment.
• The warlike Necrolords of Maldraxxus, who forge the undead armies that serve as the first line of defense for the Shadowlands and honor those who seek power and glory in battle.
Kel'Thuzad confirmed
kyrians have the whole safekeepers of souls that I love
night fae are aesthetic as hell
and the venthyr are fancy af
idk what to do with my life
i though they said something about "learning from classic"
the maldraxxus dont really appeal to me
what did they learn?
ABOMINATIONS!
Maldraxxus being the honor and glory faction is an interesting twist
Unded rawrriors
better see dumass that made a appearance in hillsbrad once
Isn't he also in Deathkneel?
dunno
The unded starting zone
i think he was risen during the first quest in silverpine
Nope
Dumass?
'Dumass was resurrected during the demonstration of the val'kyr to the Warchief Garrosh Hellscream.'
Huh
I was saying his name like Dumbass for a while xD
they better say something about heritage armor for Draenei lol
Then heard Nixxiom say his name
Covenant stuff
And realized it was Düm-ass
Reminds me of dark souls
Like
Imagine a Covenant vs Covenant pvp
i think its gonna be like that
no more horde vs alliance but covenant vs covenant
1 vs 1 vs 1 vs 1
"I DON'T CARE IF YOU'RE ALSO LOYAL TO KING MANDUIN! FIGHT MEH TO DETH!"
"Fae rules, fuck Venthyrs"
"Imagine feeding om your momma's soul"
"This post was made by the Bastion gang"
XDDDD
Gods make it happen blizz
You play on EU, right Mak?
Oh.
Can't have it all, I guess!
Despite playing on different regions though
WE MONKS STICK TOGETHER
YEAH
Yeah i know it's kinda late...
I think
Cause I created it
For me
Bolvar was at the right level
But he is still weak without frostmourne
I think the real lk was
Crown + Sword to be completed
No idea
Nah wait
Ashmourne would be a combination of Ashbringer and Frostmoooo-...
FROSTBRINGER
did they announce necromancer yet?
They did Dark Rangers
Not
wooooooooooo
fffffffff
Wow coming next is up soon
I really hope we get a new class but I know it's very unlikely
Sylvanas got those OP powers from the death guy imo, this is how she defeated Bolvar so easily, but I guess we will learn in 20 mins
I see im not the only one hyped cause of lilith
Just wanna say it's 11:19 PM where I live
And I'm traveling atm
The power of weekend keeps me awake
10:20pm here
Where do I get those echoes of mortality for the preorder quest? 🤔
uhhh
10 mins still panel
Hype
are those whatever their called vampire elves?
no
San'laid?
yeah that
i hope there's a gothic armour set
san'layn were a special group of kael'thas forces that were sent into ICC
San'layn
well they look cool anyways
they died and arthas ressed them as vampires
but those are not them. doesnt look like
That first hairstyle is so cool :O
I love the black tips
i would like them if they were a allied race
me too
Messy hair always ends up looking good in WoW
this music 😄
Somehow
and those boots are cool as heck
I just want vampires at this point
Their hands are really oversized tho
For readability maybe?
Street Fighter does that with character hands and feet. Scale 'em up to be easier to notice
Maybe it's the same idea on that concept
Won't stop begging Blizz for long scarf mogs
Some Legion cloaks were thin enough that I consider them scarves
But it's not the same
what we need is full on cloacks with a hood
the what next panels are not live for those without a ticket, corret?
2 and a bit
Either way, I think they'll start in a minute and 45 seconds
See you guys online
Jeff uhm's
well.. hoping in a more exiting panel, see you in 45 mins
so the panel aint live?
It is now
its
People just sitting
it's about to start
OMG omg
Let's do this bois n gals
I hope they'll show some of those new customization options
it's on
I love that art with the shattered sky
GARROSH POG
probably