#beta-ptr-spoilers

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cyan prairie
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btw when speaking of Dungeons

dense plover
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You implied something really gross

cyan prairie
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does anyone feel some connection between End Times and what happened in BfA?

dense plover
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People are at work on these channels

tropic trail
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you have a kinky mind then

dense plover
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No

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End times won’t ever actually happen

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It’s the worst case scenario

cyan prairie
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i mean, what we see there

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what happened to some leaders

dense plover
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We prevented it by defeating Deathwing

tropic trail
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It would be cool to be trapped there

dense plover
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But the birth of muruzond still hasn’t happened

tropic trail
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deffwing

cyan prairie
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i don't mean deathwing

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but the leaders there

tropic trail
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OH hi Bolvar

cyan prairie
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that there seems to be some connection

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like Tyrande

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Tyrande is also "edgy" there

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went dark-mode

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and wonders why Elune abandoned them

tropic trail
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It would be cool as fuck if we go down and anduin is in some cool shadowland armor

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Not gonna lie

dense plover
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Because in that version, she lost malfurion

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He was killed

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But there are similarities

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You aren’t wrong

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Which I hope means we finally meet murozond

tropic trail
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I mean she could of just replaced her vengeance there with what happened here

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She loved her people as much as him

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I’m not saying you’re wrong

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we go to shadowlands and we meet hogger

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I’m saying she could of just switched it 🤷🏻‍♀️ real life people do it all the time

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But this is a game

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Lol

cyan prairie
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We meet Mankrik's wife

tropic trail
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or we meet everything we killed so far

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YIKES

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all those golden rabbits I killed

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the ammount of kobolds

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and murlocs

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waiting...

cyan prairie
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High Overlady of Kyriammar

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How nice it would be to see Mankrik reunite with his wife

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Needs to happen if it's shadowlands expansion

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you can't change my mind

tropic trail
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i wonder if it's shadowlands, other people from our factions will follow us or we go in alone

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the 2nd option would be better in my option

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be completly alone

cyan prairie
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someone needs to stay here

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and protect Azeroth

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from other threats

tropic trail
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Yeah I don’t want anyone there with me

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They don’t do shit anyways

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loading screen to shadowlands - completly black screen, can barely see your char with a torch

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Always me running around killing, spying, shitting on orcs, and then they go “we did it”

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lulw

cyan prairie
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What do we have to say? We killed an entity close to an Old God in BfA already, and we're still lower than Nathanos in ranks?

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Cuz he's better at purging alliance noobs?

tropic trail
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Yeah and we still aren’t the right hand of anduin he has his dog

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im not sure if i want to be his right hand

cyan prairie
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I understand that killing alliance 1v10 isn't comparable to him being a god already

tropic trail
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but a higher rank ye

cyan prairie
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nerf NaTHANOS

tropic trail
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You aren’t on his rank because you don’t tap the Queen tbh

cyan prairie
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can't wait to Shield Slam his queen soon...

tropic trail
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They took such a good character and made her into a turd

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Atleast for me

cyan prairie
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But i enjoyed killing Night Elves in BfA

tropic trail
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sylvanas?

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Mhm

cyan prairie
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funny how they got rekt, and they are still friendly to me cuz they are too scared to fight >:D

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Just realised that the whole Story of BfA was a really really long Battleground

tropic trail
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LOL

cyan prairie
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Alliance ragequitting mid fight

tropic trail
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It’s funny I’m going to blizcon but I’ll want to play wow instead even tho I’m there rip

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I’ll just be too hyped for new content

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i will just watch someone streaming the whole thing

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asmon will stream opening cerenomy so gonna start there

cyan prairie
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i guess i will keep alt tabbing the game every 30 sec

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to keep watching the stream

uncut vault
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You know you can watch opening ceremony for free right?

tropic trail
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u mean me?

cyan prairie
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Why wouldn't we know it?

uncut vault
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asmon will stream opening cerenomy so gonna start there

cyan prairie
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ugh... asmongold...

tropic trail
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obviously i like him and his streams

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so thats why i watch it at him

cyan prairie
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i always watch Blizzcon with friends on discord

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then we talk what we thought about the cinematic etc.

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i think it's much better than watching someone's stream

tropic trail
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what if i dont have friends?

normal niche
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I like Asmongold.

lone marten
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I wish my friends were interested in wow

normal niche
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Sup y'all its me

lone marten
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Ya boi

tropic trail
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i mean, i have but none of them are interested in wow

normal niche
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Same.

lone marten
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Yup

normal niche
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I used to have a friend, who I used to call on Skype who I played wow with back in Legion

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he was an elitist, but he was a cool dude.

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I haven't seen him once.

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I talked to him, at the end of wod.

tropic trail
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most of my friends are over +30 living a normal life having families and stuff, people at my age, at my place don't give two f's about wow

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so yea

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rip

normal niche
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rip

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yes

cyan prairie
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most of my friends are interested in wow, and they are the people who actually got me into the game

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and some people i made friends with in WoW are my IRL friends now too, so can't say i don't have anyone to watch Blizzcon with

tropic trail
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nice

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i will prob multibox and watch asmon on 2nd monitor as always

cyan prairie
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Back to PTR-spoilers - seems like the "leaks" silenced since the upload of Bolvar to Gearstore

ancient jasper
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So before Blizzcon: Anyone have a specific Class they fully want to be announced?

cyan prairie
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or i should say "fan theories"

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Tinkers if they use mechs like Druids use Bearform to tank

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If not, then i don't care about them

carmine junco
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goat farmer

normal mango
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no new class, but some interesting reworks for the others. Mainly Unholy DK (removing wound system) and making them more necromancer along with 2h frost possibly.

cyan prairie
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Magni doesn't approve

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Teh woonz moost be heald

tropic trail
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or different "styles" for classes we already have. Hunters could be shadow hunters, etc. Like they did with glyphs, questline for warlocks for green fire and so on.

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basically more customization

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and options

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sliders too

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😄

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Oh yeah I mean they could do it so at some point you unlock a new spec within the spec and you just aren’t a hunter lol

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Talents just get changed to the new ones

novel zodiac
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Anything but tinkers

tropic trail
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I mean the abilites would be the same but with different visuals, names

cyan prairie
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I want a Glyph of Necromancy for warlocks

tropic trail
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Yeah

cyan prairie
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to summon undeads instead of Demons

tropic trail
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exactly

cyan prairie
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and that'll be enough - no need for a new class

novel zodiac
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full rework to current classes >>>>>>>>>> new class

tropic trail
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more and more options and customization for the entire character u play (for years)

cyan prairie
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i want war-paint on face for Orcs

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like Saurfang had

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or a Horde Emblem tattoo on a shoulder

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like Baine has

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or beards for Trolls...

tropic trail
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exactly

cyan prairie
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so many small changes, that would change so much

tropic trail
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I WANT BOOTS With heels

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Like Jaina

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Like wtf Bs is that

normal niche
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Calia and Jaina get em

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but not the players

ancient jasper
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Can you imagine trying to fight in heels? Oof. 😂

normal niche
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I mean

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draenei do it

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okay

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no

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i'm kidding

tropic trail
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body sliders for characters until a point where it doesn't break the game

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i need a guild full with fat gnomes

ancient jasper
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I'd be cool with Body Sliders. ESPECIALLY for muscles.

normal niche
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Yeah.

tropic trail
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also sliders for M+ keys, so u dont have to run in, reset, run in, reset run in

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when u lower a key

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That takes 2 seconds tho lol

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i know

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And how many times you gonna drop it df lol

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but i still remember having no ssd back in legion

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i mean as a player who is pushing +20 keys and usually sells +10 keys

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its annoying

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Not knocking on your profit lol I don’t get why ppl buy keys I mean just do the content you’re gonna suck no matter how much gear you get if you don’t learn

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some people simply dont have the will or time to get better

cyan prairie
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About selling keys - i never understood people buying these boosts

tropic trail
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they just want to be there on the same gear as others

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Even if they still suck with the same gear? 😦 that’s kinda sad

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yea

cyan prairie
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when i need gear i play with guildies to boost my alt

tropic trail
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Do you split the money with your team :0

cyan prairie
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or do alt Mythic raid runs with my guild

tropic trail
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ofc,

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i did some pug boosts in legion tho

cyan prairie
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i mean - what is the reason to keep up with gear, if you still don't have anyone to play with (i doubt ppl who buy boosts have guilds)

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if they did, they wouldn't need to buy boosts

tropic trail
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when havoc was insane in m+ and i was able to boost 2 ppl at once in +15s

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God I hate the guild spam when you don’t have a guild

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Nice

cyan prairie
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i still think there should be a separate channel in game chat

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for guild advertisement

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instead of spamming on trade

tropic trail
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I hope new affixes next x-pac will be cool

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Nah you ever get the ones that just invite you out of no where

cyan prairie
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in Legion i was able to time a +18 key with 3 ppl remaining

tropic trail
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spamming eye beam

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i dont know, but its good profit

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spamming eye beam

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😄

cyan prairie
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since 2 of them left after 2nd boss

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i like spamming Thunder Clap

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doing 100k DPS as tank

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cuz "balance"

tropic trail
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How do you even get the money at the end? A site?

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I hope new affixes next x-pac will be cool

cyan prairie
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in game trade with gold

tropic trail
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Dammmn that’s a lot of trust lol

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people not only buy with gold but lets not go into details

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What if they just hearth after there ain’t w contract stating they have to pay right 0.0

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this is the reason why there are boosting communities

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trustworthy communities

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Damn a whole dude of wow I’ve never seen lol

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collecting feedbacks and such

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yep

cyan prairie
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boosting through M+ is one thing

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being boosted through Cutting Edge is another

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i would feel bad with CE if i was boosted

tropic trail
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Yeah

cyan prairie
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i would rather have no CE, than a boosted one

tropic trail
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one of my friends made about 150 mill in legion boosting ce argus

cyan prairie
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i'm not talking about selling CE boosts, but buying them

limber mural
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Yikes

tropic trail
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yea ik

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My bf liked me back then before we dated and I got a free mount loool

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I was like oh word ok

cyan prairie
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i'd feel like shit with a bought CE

limber mural
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Double yikes

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Me and a mate sell +10s but that's an entire different kettle of fish

tropic trail
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my friend's previous acc got banned with that 150 mill

limber mural
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oof

tropic trail
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he already got like 100 again

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😄

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Wtf

cyan prairie
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wonder why

tropic trail
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Hi can we be friends

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one of his buyers said something ingame about $$, got banned afterwards...he just has way too many customers, connections and after a while he got to a point where it was a matter of time

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as long as people do it via discord or something, cant ban

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when uldir came out he made 1000 eur in 1 week happy

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He had too many swiss accounts

cyan prairie
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i remember people asking me if we sold CE Boosts on Jaina xD

limber mural
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Mythic Jaina is a mess with pugs now

tropic trail
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I’d pay 100$ if someone gave me the Jaina mount df

limber mural
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Button presser's central

tropic trail
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Like that mount is sooo cool

cyan prairie
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My guild is gonna do farm runs there soon

limber mural
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I ain't losing sleep over not having it

cyan prairie
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so we can all get the mount while it's still 100%

tropic trail
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u have no idea how much people pay for mounts

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its insane

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Yeah but only one person gets it

cyan prairie
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people just don't want to work

tropic trail
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If it’s over 200 they need to stop playing wow

cyan prairie
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but they want rewards

tropic trail
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200 is like, a new raid full hc clear

limber mural
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Tbqh money is subjective, dumb money to some may not be to others

tropic trail
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Wtf

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Just joins guild

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or make money out of people's stupidity

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You could do 13k dps and still kill heroic az

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As long as everyone else is doing the dmg

cyan prairie
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13k dps would get her to like 80% in 10 minutes of fight

tropic trail
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Well if they are the only ones doing 13k

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Everyone else is 20k+ I mean

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You don’t need to do 40k but 40k is nice

cyan prairie
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40k is like the "good" amount on HC

tropic trail
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Idk I mean I did 40k on ashvane mythic and I wasn’t losing sleep over it

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She died

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🤷🏻‍♀️

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We got org to 2% and wiped gonna kill him tonight lol

cyan prairie
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i wonder when my guild is gonna kil Za'qul

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we're having some progress squad issues again...

tropic trail
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Yikes

sullen dawn
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Better not try the cow achievement so :p

tropic trail
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I mean if they don’t show up they should be cut from raid

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Tbh

cyan prairie
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we don't do anything like that

tropic trail
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Like life situations is one thing but

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Ooo ok

cyan prairie
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we respect it that people have their lives

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that's why 4 guilds on our realm broke and joined us

tropic trail
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Oh yeah but I mean you have set ppl to come in and they don’t show up because they wanna play classic or something

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Then they should get cut

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And replaced with someone else

cyan prairie
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none of our guildies plays classic over retail when it comes to raiding

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people have some IRL issues and we respect it, that they can't be present all the time

tropic trail
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That’s just how you kill the entire raid if you want it. You have ALLLLL week to do anything you want. But atleast try and show up for the 1-2 nights you’re needed lol. Oh yeah that’s fine

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I’m saying if it’s just bs they need the knife

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raid loggers ,ew

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Real life is a different story

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I wouldn’t pick a game over real life shit lol but I’m not gonna ditch the team to go play something else if they need me

cyan prairie
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the situation gets different, when the raid gets cancelled just because YOU can't show up

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being the only warrior main in BoD

tropic trail
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Yeah

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But that’s not your fault that’s theirs for not having a back up

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Lol

cyan prairie
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at least they gave me a break after we killed Jaina

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to test some "new" people

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i wonder if it will stay like that in next expansion

tropic trail
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That would be nice

cyan prairie
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that we will need a certain class to be present on the raid

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it's both good and bad

tropic trail
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Well o know range will be a needed class

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Lol

cyan prairie
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good - because you have a reason to take a certain class to a raid

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bad - becaue you NEED a certain class in a raid

tropic trail
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This raid is so favored to range

cyan prairie
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that's why i hate EP

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worst raid since ToS imo

tropic trail
cyan prairie
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I hope that he'll be a difficult, but satisfying boss

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if he will be a boss ofc

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AND if he IS a raid boss

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i want that Hammer

tropic trail
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From all the fights I watched melee was never too dps 😦

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Top

ionic terrace
tropic trail
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Ew a selfie rip

cyan prairie
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Delete this HERESY

tropic trail
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She looks dumb

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And she can’t even be strong enough to not have blue eyes

cyan prairie
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wouldn't she have red eyes?

tropic trail
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man i love Bolvar but she would look sick

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It covers her face

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Her face is the best part

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I mean on Bolvar it’s okay because he’s burned to Shit

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so u can see her a bit

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Okay so what if Slyvanas goes down to the shadow lands and sees the mother and daughter she tried to save from Arthas

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Her face

cyan prairie
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Here, thank me later

ionic terrace
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So like Zenos?

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From FFXIV

night swift
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God not another Zenos please

cyan prairie
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what is Zenos?

tropic trail
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i looked it up, bad idea

cyan prairie
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is it that retarded-blood-elf-looking thing?

night swift
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Zenos is a main villain in final fantasy 14

cyan prairie
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looks like a big "xDDD" when compared to any other "greater" villain in WoW

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i mean - he looks like a low level Belf DK in some poor mix of Naxx tmog

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or she

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idk what it is

night swift
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Zenos?

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He’s fucking crazy

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But thats offtopic

cyan prairie
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maybe that's my perspective of these other fantasy universes

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i know people are interested in them and all, but most of them are just "meh" for me

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Maybe because Warcraft did the best in the storytelling of all characters so far to me

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but that's offtopic too

night swift
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Ye its definitely a perspective thing

cyan prairie
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for example i like that Warcraft exists, because i don't like Warhammer universe at all

night swift
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Warhammer is a mess from what I’ve heard

cyan prairie
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and i doubt if there would be any other universe i would get interested in so much

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yeah, heard the same

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that's why it doesn's have as many fans as other fantasy universes

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but what do i know, i just repeat what i've heard

night swift
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Same lol

cyan prairie
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but i love the contrast between other fantasy universes

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i loved Dwarves, humans, Hobbits etc. in Tolkien's fantasy, while i disliked the Orcs etc.

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In Warcraft it's the exact opposite

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ehh someone please tell me this Sylvanas pic is 100% fake

tropic trail
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which one?

cyan prairie
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scroll up a bit

zealous basalt
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Well, i'd say depends on which warhammer you speaking about, but it's not really a big mess, but it is more of being bigger, WoW becomes just a single book in comparison of the vast lore that both Warhammer universes offer

tropic trail
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@cyan prairie yes its fake

cyan prairie
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maybe that's why so few are interested in it further, idk

zealous basalt
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It has a big number of fans

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but thing is

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the 40k universe is very Very pro human

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but that is offtopic

cyan prairie
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i never see people talking about Warhammer like anywhere

zealous basalt
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Seek more and you shall find

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*points to /40k

cyan prairie
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nah, i'll pass

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got better things to do

zealous basalt
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you do you

cyan prairie
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and by "better things to do" i mean "i'm gonna post something here soon, when i'm done" xD

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just realised that on that screenshot

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Bolvar isn't even "wearing" the armor he has

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it's literally melted into him

pulsar iris
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thats because he is too damn hot

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wink wink

cyan prairie
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Art Team: "How hot do you want Bolvar to be?
Blizzard: "yes"

cyan prairie
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Luks gud

tropic trail
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if i was in the crowd at cinematic

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Wait why are his eyes red

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Did you change it lol

cyan prairie
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yeah

tropic trail
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Oh haha I was like df

cyan prairie
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i won't change my mind that he looks better with red eyes

novel zodiac
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He does

cyan prairie
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i think i sent RGB Bolvar earlier here too

sullen dawn
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Did saurons eye in the background not kind of give away he changed it? ;p

pulsar iris
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it looks better red, but it doesnt look bad blue

cyan prairie
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i guess we'll get an explanation why his eyes are blue again

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my bet is that it shows that he just lost control over the power, and it took over

tropic trail
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isn't it a bad idea to have ICC as the gate to the shadowlands?

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it's made of saronite

cyan prairie
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depends if Saronite is connected with Shadowlands at all

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but it might be, since Yogg-Saron called himself a God of Death

tropic trail
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ye

pulsar iris
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i think the opposite. i think he now has full control over the lich king power

cyan prairie
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his goal was to control the power, to stop the scourge

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so he had control over it

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now the power would have control over him instead

pulsar iris
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i mean, maybe he only had just a fraction of the power before, and that was enough to control the scourge. but, now, he is powerful enough to make sure no one steals the helm, takes control of the scourge, and fucks the world again

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i dont want another xpac where we fight the LK

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i also dont want him as friends. just a neutral dude

cyan prairie
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Since we get new DKs i really think him to be kinda "friendly" towards us

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i doubt that there would be a copy of already existing DK scenario, just with Arthas replaced with Bolvar

tropic trail
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I can see Sylvanas being connected to Yogg-Saron somehow

pulsar iris
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the thing i would like about new DKs would be if the deathlord (AKA DK player character) ressed them for some reason, instead of making about bolvar

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just like he did in the DK campaign. ofc, bolvar guided deathlord. but who knows

cyan prairie
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Didn't we need LKs power to make these new Death Knights?

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it was long ago since i did that questline, so i might not remember a few things

pulsar iris
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no. bolvar just said "hey, go there and raise that dude"

sullen dawn
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How big a role do we think yogg is gonna play?

tropic trail
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Well

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Sylvanas died at ICC too

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and in one of Yogg's visions u can hear Yogg saying 'only death is eternal'

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and in the last cinematic we got, Sylvanas talks about 'nothing lasts' and we know she wants to master death

uncut vault
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The PC 100% needed bolvars power to Rez the horsemen, which is why the theory that Bolvar is mind controlling them exists

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Regular death knights are another story

pulsar iris
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wait i dont remember anything in that questline saying it was bolvar power

normal niche
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I've got school tomorrow, yet I wanna watch the opening ceremony.

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gg me

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I could try to do it at school, during like lunch

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I guess.

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what time is it?

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again?

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the ceremony?

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Oh never mind

storm jackal
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Isnt opening ceremony on Friday?

forest sphinx
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Ceremony is Friday yes

dense plover
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^

signal bone
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any big updates today?

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last I saw was the thumbnail

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which turned out to be not a big deal

tropic trail
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Yeah it wouldn’t be on Halloween

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That’s just ceremony suicide

dense plover
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No updates

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We won’t see anything until Blizzcon

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@forest sphinx made a good point earlier that we might see the new DK intro in 8.3 and that we haven’t had it unencrypted because Blizzcon and that might be part of the intro quests that will be available after a wipe

forest sphinx
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That's what I think they want us to see with the new introduction stuff

tropic trail
calm plank
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Legit

deep pawn
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I'd be so happy if I can make a vulpera dk in 8.3

tropic trail
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id be happy to kill them

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kek

night swift
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I doubt it, unless blizz is hiding the AR dks for blizzcon the classes the came with in the ptr might be set in stone

deep pawn
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Not if the dks would be spoilers

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Remember, bolvar being active is supposed to be a surprise

night swift
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Well the ptr still has encrypted atuff in it

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The encrypted stuff could be what they show on friday

crimson jasper
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maybe every race will get dk's with 9.0

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depending of what the expac is

night swift
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Its gonna involve bolvar

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Blizz kinda fucked themselves with not hiding that well enough

deep pawn
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That's why people are thinking allied and pandaren dks

crimson jasper
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there are the datamined models of every allied race as DK even Vulpera so

tropic trail
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i think that will be for 8.3.5, 9.0 or 9.0.1

crimson jasper
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ye as soon as the focus shifts to next expac/prepatch events

night swift
#

They might be a pre order bonus like how the ARs were for bfa

crimson jasper
#

hmm true could be

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what l am hoping for are 4th specs for our classes or "class skins"

deep pawn
#

I just see 3-5 4th specs, not 11

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And even class skins might be hard to make 12 of

crimson jasper
#

well they can cut out druid already

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they have 4

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but class skins are more likely than 4th specs l guess

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or a new class entirely ofc

deep pawn
#

I want tinker to make the edgelords cry. Give me Ghostbusters and a Gundam tank

crimson jasper
#

ha that sounds crazy, l like it

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with the addition of Vulpera and mechas it is very likely tho, cause they wouldnt need to limit the class to only 2 races, not that they wouod take that into great account seeing demon hunters but

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makes it more appealing

night swift
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Yeah dh being one race each sucks

deep pawn
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It does have better animations

tropic trail
#

i dont want Tinkers or an edgelord class or what ever you want to call it :v

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dragon class ;v

crimson jasper
#

l would love dragon class

deep pawn
#

I think it'd be neat, but youd piss off people cause, 'it wasn't a wc3 hero classes reeeee!'

tropic trail
#

i dont think next class will be a hero class

deep pawn
#

well wc3 hero class as in it was represented by one of the hero units

normal niche
#

next class should be blademaster

tropic trail
#

that shouldnt be a class^

normal niche
#

tbh you can just roll an arms warrior and equip a sword

tropic trail
#

maybe a class skin

normal niche
#

that's a blade-master

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although I do wish, that warriors could mirror image or something.

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like mages

night swift
#

DKs have a similar thing already

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At least blood dk

sullen dagger
#

I'd say the best thing to implement would be a w3 spellbreaker

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Mele + magic

cyan prairie
#

Last day before Blizzcon boyz

strange falcon
#

why does it have super smash bros in the background

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at least do it right

cyan prairie
#

So what is the list of possible classes being added?

deep pawn
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Tinker, dark ranger, dragon sworn, 4th specs to some classes, necromancer in order of likelyhood

cyan prairie
#

I think there would be issue with 4th specs due to Legion lvling

strange falcon
#

all of these except tinkers are more suitable as class skins xd

languid yoke
#

4th specs already 0% of happening tho 🤔

forest sphinx
#

I'm with you. I don't see 4th spec any time

storm marsh
#

Tomorrow guyysssss

deep pawn
#

I'd only expect 3-5 easily added 4th specs such as a ranged holy DPS, shaman tanks, glad warrior, ranged monk, cinder dk to make up for unholy going ranged

cyan prairie
#

The only 4th spec i see happening is the Fire DK, due to the datamined sword

deep pawn
#

It'd be more than 1

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I'd play the hell out of a ranged paladin with exorcism and holy shock

normal mango
#

holy wrath too please 😄

strange falcon
#

you cant just have 1 spec

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also you're forgetting the burning sword,could be the sword the character starts with,and you choose one of the remaining 3 based on your spec at the end of the starting zone....EXACTLY LIKE IT IS RIGHT NOW

deep pawn
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That's why I say 3-5. 11 specs is too much

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That said, I'd still prefer tinker in the end

strange falcon
#

a lot of people also hate tinkers

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but hey,thats opinion for ya

deep pawn
#

Just like people hate gnomes, vulpera, and goblins. They're allowed to be wrong.

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People seem to think tinkers don't belong in a game that has had a Subway tram since 2004.

strange falcon
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some of them are in this very server, with quotes like " i'd rather have no class,than have tinkers"

deep pawn
#

They can unsub then when we have Ghostbusters tinkers helping us fill our well of souls in shadowlands

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😉

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How can they hate the idea of a mecha suit tank, being shot with a healing dart, and having a class throw more bombs than survival could dream of

normal mango
#

healing dart? I was thinking tinkers would be more like the island expedition teams (Gazelower's Greasemonkeys / Razak's roughriders) with healbots and such

strange falcon
#

you can have both

uncut vault
#

the island ones are kind of both

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the healer units also use sniper rifles

strange falcon
#

you could have the bots work like monk's Chi-ji or serpent statues

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and you also do the healing yourself

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with abilities

calm plank
#

the one good thing I can think of with tinkers would be that there'd be another class that can use guns/bows/crossbows

strange falcon
#

and is probably mail

long blade
#

I wish we could transmog at least one more armor class for each class

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plate-mail mail-leather leather-cloth

sullen dawn
strange falcon
#

i mean,the previous iteration of diablo 4 that they cancelled

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was a third person over the shoulder type

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and it was super gritty

uncut vault
#

just link the persons reddit post, not some other forum lol

dense plover
#

^^^

languid yoke
#

a friend of mine mocked me for that leak because it mentions druid, therefore instantly deconfirming it cause that would be actually cool and something I was mad about in D3 when Necromancer (aka witch doctor clone) happened

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uwu

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pays $300

strange falcon
#

Yes indeed

dense plover
#

I like necromancer

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It’s not a witch doctor clone

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Especially endgame it plays very differently

languid yoke
#

still feels to me like they went the path of less effort

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forever making me hate necromancers

cyan prairie
#

anyone expects the "heroes" showing up tomorrow, trying to ruin Blizzcon?

grim ermine
#

@strange falconsadcat

forest sphinx
#

I kind of saw the Diablo 4 game heading that way

dark furnace
#

That guy who leaked Diablo 4 also leaked Sword and Shield

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So he has some credibility

white quartz
#

Yeah.... I looked at that dudes history and HOLAY SHAT does he have lots of creds

dark furnace
#

Ghost Recon and Persona 5 Scramble

white quartz
#

@cyan prairie There will be some for sure. The question will be if Blizzard can get the discussion off of the protests and onto the games. Its gonna be really interesting and tbh I wouldnt be surprised if they dont even mention the past controversies in favor of letting the games take the spotlight because lets be honest. The reveals will get downvoted at first but will quickly make up for that over the course of a day. Id be shocked if each reveal vid has anything less then a like ration of 70/30

cyan prairie
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I'm just a bit worried. I don't want the event to be raided by a group of angry apes...

white quartz
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That’s all up to Blizz and if it can give us proper and big reveals. If they knock Day 1 out of the park then many will come back to em. If they fail and don’t mention something as big as D4 then it’s gonna be a PR massacre

terse patrol
#

Its called curated leaks.

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I’m sure he’s hired to leak stuff to generate hype.

cyan prairie
#

D4 needs to happen

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And that leak seems legit

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It isn't a HUGE leak

flint meteor
#

its gonna be big stuff dude

white quartz
#

But that’s an assumption Hunk. There’s no actual evidence that this actually happened. Don’t get me wrong I think it may have been a hired leak as well but there is no real proof

cyan prairie
#

what makes it even more possible

flint meteor
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theres like what was it 3/4 pannels with "coming soon" in that day?

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for big reveals

languid yoke
#

it's a huge leak for me, who has been waiting for druid

sullen dawn
#

also mounts and interactable world sounds cool

white quartz
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@flint meteor There are 4 coming soon panels that will happen after Opening Ceremony and all 4 are free for everyone to watch

dense plover
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Bet they don’t discuss protests at all

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Most we will get is “we are here to talk about the games we love, so we are going to focus on that”

flint meteor
#

nice

dense plover
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If they even acknowledge them in the first place

white quartz
#

I’ve been thinking about it and honestly you are very much correct. If they address the protests they run the chance of pissing people off again

lethal folio
#

25hrs and 32 mins to wait 😆

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Better was 90 minutes😄

sullen dawn
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I'm forever going to refer to tomorrow as T-Day

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the day in which the glorious tinkers were revealed to us 😄

harsh thistle
#

When is the exact time they'll reveal the next expansion tomorrow?

dense plover
#

Around 2pm EST

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That’s when opening ceremony is

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That’s when we will get the cinematic and 5-15 min feature overview

thick saddle
#

Easier to just use the countdown...

25 hours 13 min 30 sec from NOW

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Opening Ceremony will reveal the new expansion, and more information about the expansion will be revealed in the hours that follow (in one of their "Coming Soon" segments)

strange falcon
#

obligatory

thick saddle
#

25 hours actually 😛

strange falcon
#

you havent been around here for too long

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to not get the joke

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:p

zealous basalt
#

It's never that accurate

thick saddle
#

I am new on this Discord, not new to WoW or WoWhead... so maybe the joke slipped me by

worn crown
#

Someone here called possible people protesting due to Hong Kong incident "angry apes". Wow, talk about being harsh and insensitive. Some people do care about democracy and well being of fellow humans while others only look for themselves and their precious little videogames.
Regardless, Blizz lost the sponsorship of Mitsubishi in the east due to this, and I'm happy because big greedy companies only care about something when they loose money.

dark furnace
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Yes, but I don't think the president of China will see the protests outside Blizzcon and rethink his ways

limber mural
#

Problem is video game boycotts never work, because the vocal population likely don't even make up a third of the playerbase

dark furnace
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I think if they want to help they can show their support to the people who are already protesting in Hong Kong, or go there and protest

limber mural
#

I wouldn't be shocked if over 3/4 of WoW players have no idea it's happened, or what it's about

dark furnace
#

Blizzcon is not the best place to protest this to make a difference

dense plover
#

It’s not going to change anything

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If you want to make change, write to your senator

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And congressmen

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If you’re in the EU, write to those representatives

cyan prairie
#

Screaming in the internet won't make you a "hero" because it doesn't change anything.

dense plover
#

Exactly

cyan prairie
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Only annoys people who don't want to see it, because they have better thing to do.

limber mural
#

And mostly it's losers posting it to gain internet points that don't actually give a damn

cyan prairie
#

I am always against anything related to politics in whole gaming, because damn - I play to avoid the world problems, not to see the spam of them everywhere.

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Most of these people don't even understand that breaking rules results in punishment.

#

Would they call the government evil if they went to jail for breaking the law?

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And with all that bullshit going on, i don't think they help that whole situation at all, but only make it worse.

dense plover
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Games are art

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Art is political

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Therefore gaming is political

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This is a Reese’s cup

#

You can’t get the peanut butter out of the chocolate

cyan prairie
#

The issue is that China was like that since... always? They suddenly all woke up and became heroes? It's just pathetic...

#

Let's just hope that there won't be any issues with Blizzcon tomorrow. It's meant to make people happier, not angrier

dark furnace
#

They said they would protest it "peacefully"

#

It's gonna be interesting to see how that goes

cyan prairie
#

I'd say how it ends, but i don't want to offend anyone

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Because i literally hate that whole situation

tranquil steeple
#

if anything, I hope whoever comes to that protest doesn't prevent the people headed to Blizzcon from you know... actually attending Blizzcon, as they paid to be able to

cyan prairie
#

People are dumb... Expect anything...

dark furnace
#

There will definetely be people booing the ones entering the convention

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Perhaps even worse

dense plover
#

if they do, theyll get arrested

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peaceful protest is legal

cyan prairie
#

good

dense plover
#

blockading is illegal

cyan prairie
#

will they cry for another illegal activity?

dense plover
#

preventing people from entering a place of business is illegal

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and people inside will probably be removed

#

because they probably signed a contract by purchasing a ticket

sullen dawn
#

everything is political

zealous basalt
#

Indeed

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I mean

#

Blah

#

Politics will be always be there

#

Just hope Blizz has enough security for tomorrow

#

You know how people can turn

cyan prairie
#

As i said - there are many dumb people in the world

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we can expect anything

#

we only need to hope that they aren't THAT dumb

dense plover
#

they have security and metal detectors

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worse case scenario you get people yelling (theyll turn off the mics for the crowd) or banners (cameras will avoid them)

cyan prairie
#

this is why i'm worried about the event

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ppl acting like children, ruining the event for those who actually do care about it

dense plover
#

ideally people will protest without interrupting, outside

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or if inside, silently, assuming they dont just kick them out

zealous basalt
#

Something I'm against is

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That some of the people protesting aren't really protesting for China but just for pure hate, I don't know if I'm explaining myself good

limber mural
#

Protesting for the sake of protesting

sullen dawn
#

I predict some minor disruptions but as peach said the teams doing the audio visual are experienced enough to probably not capture it in the live streams

zealous basalt
#

Yeah

limber mural
#

Doubt there'll be any crowd mics, any crowd shots

#

The lack of an open Q&A is telling enough

sullen dawn
#

theyll defo do crowd shots

limber mural
#

i doubt even that

cyan prairie
#

that's why i call such people dumb

sullen dawn
#

but not without checking first

zealous basalt
#

But I don't think that has something to do with China stuff but what happened with diablo

cyan prairie
#

they don't even know what they're protesting for

oak wraith
#

There's never been an open Q&A. Alwyas with pre-asked questions.

cyan prairie
#

blindly following the wave of hate

sullen dawn
#

theyre protesting because the hivemind told them to

languid yoke
#

literally nothing changed about the Q&A this year

#

lmao

oak wraith
#

^

languid yoke
#

if you think it did stop watching thequartering

zealous basalt
#

And if I don't wanna

#

raises fists

sullen dawn
#

yeh the Q&A is actually the same as usual

#

there was some confusion

languid yoke
#

there wasn't confusion, just people being idiots

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and idiot people (hvb, quartering) making videos about it

sullen dawn
#

ok

#

there was some confusion due to people being idiots

#

happy? 😉

languid yoke
#

yup

sullen dawn
#

😉

#

anti blizz sentiment sells right now

#

so ofc people are gonna capatalise on that

limber mural
#

huh. i don't actually watch any wow youtubers

#

cause they all seem cringy or fake as hell

#

same logic i have for warframe YTers

#

2 of my favourite games but the youtube scene does not appeal to me in the slightest

#

is that odd

sullen dawn
#

warcraft board game at blizzcon

#

arrives spring 2020

languid yoke
#

"introduce" is odd wording considering there already ARE warcraft board games Thonk

normal niche
#

Hearthstone counts?

languid yoke
#

............................................................................................................................................................................................................................

normal niche
#

I asked a question

#

lol

languid yoke
#

that's my answer

normal niche
#

ok

sullen dawn
#

i guess this is different becauses it's a WoW board game

#

not just a warcraft one

#

and no...hearthstone does not count

#

considering it's also a video game

languid yoke
#

there already is a WoW board game.

#

I own it.

sullen dawn
#

no you don't

#

it was a dream

languid yoke
#

yes I do

tranquil steeple
#

isn't hearthstone technically

#

a card game

sullen dawn
#

nwolf imagining things due to blizzcon hype

languid yoke
#

I imagine things I own for 10 years?

sullen dawn
#

guess so

normal niche
#

I mean

#

aren't there like cards in board games tho?

#

i mean yes

#

hearthstone is a card game

#

but I've played board games that utilize the system of cards

sullen dawn
#

hearthstone is a digital card game 😛

languid yoke
#

yes but the focus is on the board. Card game focus is on cards.

zealous basalt
#

Card games on motorcycles

sullen dawn
#

IRL physical card games arent called board games, theyre called card games

languid yoke
#

makore: yugioh 5Ds

normal niche
#

oh

tranquil steeple
#

yeah but you don't really need the board to play hearthstone

sullen dawn
#

yeh you could play off of wrathions hot bod

tranquil steeple
#

if it was done physically

normal niche
#

but anyway this warcraft board game sounds interesting.

sullen dawn
#

i want an AR version of hearthsone in 5-7 years

normal niche
#

I'd love an action roleplaying game spin off-although.
Wow is technically an rp game, but its in the mmo genre..

languid yoke
normal niche
#

rather than the action genre

sullen dawn
#

"It doesn't look like anything to me"

normal niche
#

Lol

#

there's already a board game

sullen dawn
cyan prairie
#

my friend has this game

#

and like all books from warcraft

#

and comics

#

and everything...

normal niche
#

he's a warcraft nerd

sullen dawn
#

i mean so are we

normal niche
#

i'm joking lad

#

lmao

sullen dawn
#

😛

tropic trail
#

i got the World of Warcraft board game for my bday 2 years ago lol

cyan prairie
#

Warcraft is his life

normal niche
#

eee

sullen dawn
#

bloody fireworks are scaring my dog 😦

cyan prairie
#

ugh, i hate when ppl shoot fireworks randomly

#

dog starts to freak out

sullen dawn
#

yeh 😦

dense plover
#

[Vulpera Survival Kit]

#

test

cyan prairie
#

fail?

dense plover
#

yes

#

i was testing

#

failure is still valid feedback

cyan prairie
#

try any other thing from PTR?

dense plover
#

worth a shot

#

[Tabard of the Vulpera]

#

nope

#

only does retail

pulsar iris
#

wat is dis

dense plover
#

this

#

Did someone say [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker]?

haughty houndBOT
tropic trail
#

Lol

normal mango
#

It was Mists of Pandaria 2.0 all along, we've been had 😮

austere gazelle
#

someone did say [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker]

haughty houndBOT
austere gazelle
#

rofl read that on another discord

#

Battle for Azeroth is just a vision the players are witnessing on their way back home from the Twisting Nether - an entire year of hallucinations in a split second of the Vindicaar returning to the Great Dark.

tropic trail
#

lol

pulsar iris
#

i knew it

#

sylvanas is not a mad evil witch

#

we were friends horde and alliance ever since garrosh

tropic trail
#

I hope we get cool shit for the pre-purchase of next expansion

#

Like >_> I don’t want a Shit mount and a tiny pet I won’t use

pulsar iris
#

i want early access to new races/classes

tropic trail
#

Like “oh thanks for another horse”

zealous basalt
#

Can I get

#

The schedule

pulsar iris
#

no

zealous basalt
#

Kden

#

At what hour does the wow thing starts

fleet chasm
#

!wowheadsetup ptr

haughty houndBOT
#

Channel will use English tooltips from PTR.

dense plover
#

[Vulpera Survival]

haughty houndBOT
dense plover
#

Sick

strange falcon
#

[Make Camp]

haughty houndBOT
strange falcon
#

it works!

cyan prairie
tropic trail
#

are you from EU? @cyan prairie

cyan prairie
#

yup

#

and it's 19 hours until Blizzcon here now

#

gonna feel like a whole year xD

tropic trail
#

lucky me in like 4 - 6 hrs ill go to sleep hopefully for 10hrs lol thats at least 16hrs for me

#

then 3hrs that will feel like a year

lone marten
#

Im so looking forward to 6oclock tomorrow!

cloud iron
#

Im looking forward to all those predictions and leaks being crushed. I just have a horrible feeling.

uncut vault
#

Well there are 85 leaks

#

So 84 of them are bound to get crushed, at least

lone marten
#

Except the Lich king one

#

Bolvar pic

dusky sphinx
#

In your opinion 😉

lone marten
#

...

dusky sphinx
#

Nothing is confirmed until it’s confirmed tomorrow thonkerguns

lone marten
#

Well, too many facts line up

#

But you never know 😋

cyan prairie
#

maybe not all leaks will get so "crushed"

#

i guess some of them will be true in some way

strange falcon
#

if leak isnt true for 80%

cyan prairie
#

accidentally ofc

strange falcon
#

then it's crushed

tropic trail
#

#NoTinkerClassPlease

lone marten
#

#tinkerpleasepleaseplease

tropic trail
#

#ifthestoryandcinematicisgoodwhocares

lone marten
#

#thatsagoodpoint

dark furnace
#

What do you think the cinematic will be?

tropic trail
#

I'm pretty sure it will take place at the frozen throne maybe with Bolvar and...Sylvanas i guess? Maybe exchange some words, something happens (huge energy outburst) that opens a portal, gateway to the shadowlands

#

I mean according to the leaked picture i can see Bolvar facing down Sylvanas

#

I highly doubt they get in a fight but if they do, i wish Bolvar destroys her

dark furnace
#

I think it will start similar to Wotlk cinematic in Northrend with Lament of the Highborne playing while it pans to Sylvanas looking towards Icecrown Citadel. And then a fight between Bolvar and Sylvanas start. After some time she will defeat (but not kill) him and rip a tear/portal which she goes into and it takes her into the Shadowlands

#

That is the picture I get in my head

tropic trail
#

I would be pretty upset if she defeats him

dark furnace
#

And the expansion starts with Bolvar requesting aid from us and there will be a portal in Icecrown that takes us to the Shadowlands

tropic trail
#

We might also see Bolvar erupting from the ice

#

I can't see the Lich King requesting aid

bitter horizon
#

she's unlikely to given we have the new dk starting zone. Would be redundant af if they made a new one to accommodate new races using bolvar just to, uh, dethrone him ig

dark furnace
#

Yeah, like Sylvanas approaches him and he suddenly bursts out from the ice, but she already opened the Shadowlands gate

#

And she almost gets defeated but retreats through the portal

tropic trail
#

That, or maybe she brings xal'atath to the Frozen Throne and somehow opens the portal with that...Bolvar appears, either she escapes into the portal or run away

#

dont bet on a cinematic where Sylvanas will be "almost defeated and runs away"

#

If Sylvanas is a part of the new xpac cinematic trailer

#

then she will succeed with what ever she wants to do, even if she will look like shes losing agianst Bolvar

#

because this is how new xpac cinamtics work

#

there has to be a key factor - that opents the new xpac for us

#

Well Bolvar looks incredibly strong and powerful, it would be stupid to make him lose againts Sylvanas

dark furnace
#

In my vision she is merely stalling him while the gate is being opened

tropic trail
#

so i wouldn't bet on a fight

#

Sylvanas attacks Bolvar, but not because she wants to kill him/take his place - but because she wants to use the frost throune to unleash the darkness oer azeroth

#

she fights bolvar, no matter if she is on the winning or losing side, she will succeed at the end

#

this is how a Cinematic for a new trailer would look like

dark furnace
#

Yes, thats what I envisioned it being like

tropic trail
#

the outcome would be, Sylvanas opened a portal from the shadowlands and now the beintgs invading azeroth - we have to protect azeroth

#

this was ofc just an example

zealous basalt
#

So Sylv be bad

dark furnace
#

Or do it Argus style and invade it

tropic trail
#

but this is how it will be - similiar

#

the ammount of kobolds and murlocs we killed over the years

#

come back to face us in ghost form

#

nice

dark furnace
#

that would be cool

tropic trail
#

I don't want shadowlands to be the same as N'zoth visions where it's the same place but an alternate universe or something

dark furnace
#

same, it should be its own plane like the Emerald Dream

tropic trail
#

i want it to represent hell and heaven, both beautiful but scary

#

and maybe we can see Arthas running away from all those people he killed in Scooby Doo style

#

then they turn around and Arthas is running towards them

uncut vault
#

All those people technically include us

tropic trail
#

yea, we see our old lvl 80 chars running after him

dark furnace
#

Imagine your deleted characters meeting you in the shadowlands

uncut vault
#

The plethora of level 58 death knights will not be pleased with me

tropic trail
#

i don't want to meet my 'stopstepbro' called lvl 23 female gnome to greet me in shadowlands

dark furnace
#

lol, same

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imagine all your level 1 deleted characters with testnames staring angrily at you

tropic trail
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and once we deal with Shadowlands, we try to come back to Azeroth but it's sucked up by a black hole or the void lords and just like Fortnite chapter 2 happened, WoW 2 with new world

dark furnace
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Fortnite x Warcraft event with Anduin and Thrall skins

tropic trail
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😂

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get the corrupted ashbringer in the daily item shop only for 2000 v-bucks!

dark furnace
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Doomhammer pickaxe

tropic trail
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yes

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I would crank 90s with Jaina skin

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also avaliable on phone

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Don't u guys have phones?

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dont disrespect wow by putting Fortnite with it

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Legendary Dreadlord Jaina skin avaliable for 24 hours for 3000 V-bucks

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unlock the battle pass to earn rewards such as Deathwing glider!

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@tropic trail i agree they disrespect wow like that..

tropic trail
limber mural
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mechagnome?

tropic trail
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yes all allied races :v

ancient forge
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not all

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Female does not have it et

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void elf female also don't have it

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Pandarens nope also

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so god knows maybe they are updating them from time to time

tropic trail
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ah

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i thought they were saying "mechagnome?" as asking if they will get it

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lol

deep pawn
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I want my vulpera dk

tropic trail
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Mechagnome DK

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The Cog is Dead

uncut vault
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bug in jade forest because of the new vale phase makes the water disappear

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so my druid becomes a beached whale lol

calm plank
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oof

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also since the vale is gonna get restored does it mean you can see the uncorrupted vale while leveling?

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cause I remember doing that quest where a bunch of people go into the vale for the first time and they talk about how great and pretty it is

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even tho half of it is corrupted

uncut vault
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they actually changed those with 5.4

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they look at the visions in horror and think that its a mistake

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and Taran Zhu talks about how the vale lies in ruin and that we shouldnt be let in anymore

calm plank
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I don't remember that

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but that's neat

calm plank
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omg

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I just realized that you can add and remove the canopy on the vulpera mount at will

dark furnace
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How?

calm plank
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when you set up camp

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you can interact with a bag

dark furnace
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Doesn't that just explode?

calm plank
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nope?

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here it is

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it's a bit bugged

dark furnace
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I thought it did, they probably changed ir

calm plank
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the leather part is in 3D but it's not rigged properly to the hyena model so there's some clipping

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strangely enough those aren't in 3D when you have the canopy

dark furnace
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Nice, the tent thing shaked like crazy while you were riding it

calm plank
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yeah

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actually

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it doesn't shake at all now 🤔

deep pawn
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I love people who keep saying people in mech suits isn't WoW

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when that's literally what every herbalist flies around in constantly

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and is no crazier than freaking bears running around town talking to merchants

dense plover
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The water thing has been a problem since the first ptr porter. I posted a pic here back then

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Still isn’t fixed

deep pawn
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I wonder if all these leaks are on purpose so people actually watch after last year

dense plover
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No

deep pawn
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Like I can't remember everything being this confirmed before the week before

dense plover
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That’s nonsense

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They literally left in an armor piece and some other stuff

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The fucking map for zandalar was in there and encrypted

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As troll raid

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They do it every year

deep pawn
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First time we know the name without a trademark haha

dense plover
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We don’t know the name

deep pawn
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There's enough evidence out there that it's likely shadowlands

dense plover
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No there isn’t

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We literally only have the Bolger image

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And the dk stuff

dense plover
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Yeah that isn’t official

deep pawn
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unless they use the same item numbers every year

dense plover
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The image was legit

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But the page it was on was photoshopped

deep pawn
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every website looks like that when analyzed the sameway

dense plover
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Someone had the actual image and then made that

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No no

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Literally based on past year formats, someone literally copied one of them, and then inserted that image

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Just like people are using that list of file names as proof

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When that’s not what that is

deep pawn
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I mean there's a chance it's not shadowlands, but with every other leak that came out that day being right on the money, I'll be shocked if it's not Shadowlands

dense plover
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What leaks being right on the money?

deep pawn
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OW2 logo, d4 artwork

dense plover
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All from different sources

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And they weren’t all the same day either

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OW2 stuff was later than all of that

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D4 stuff was first before

deep pawn
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Weakauras said they were different sources, I don't think they were. Someone got their hands on some promo materials and spread it around

dense plover
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Weakauras idnt the source of any of it

calm plank
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man I really hope the mechagnome armor has color swaps/ changes color with your augments color

dense plover
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Dude literally just retweeted

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The bolvar one surfaced on discord

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The OW thing was ESPN and that was a blizz fuck up

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And the diablo thing is Twitter

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And they were different days

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Weak auras literally just retweeted

deep pawn
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Fine, I'm still saying, the artwork leak with the name, combined with the email-esque logo having the exact same name, with Blizzard later accidentally confirming the artwork, it's Shadowlands

dense plover
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Yeah I still don’t think that’s the name

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We will see tomorrow

deep pawn
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I mean it's easy to swap out names I guess using the same font if they really want to make it, "Depths of the Shadowlands" but I don't see a reason too

dense plover
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That’s...not how copyrights or trademarks work

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The name was set in stone months ago

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There is no evidence the name is shadowlands. People have just been using that

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Just like BfA was being called south seas based on the leak

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It wasn’t called south seas

deep pawn
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They can file trademarks whenever they want. In fact they generally don't do trademarks til it's announced except in some random country without a searchable database then spread it to New Zealand when it's announced. They could change it whenever they want.

dense plover
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No that’s not how that works

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You can register a trademark and keep it private for many months

deep pawn
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not in the USA

dense plover
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Yes in the US

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It just has to be public before the product goes public