umm
#beta-ptr-spoilers
signal bone
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AND EVEN SO IT COSTED A WHOLE RAID TIER
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...
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are still using garrison tech
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Are you that dense
signal bone
are you?
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The
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ok, housing would be instanced
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Instances work like plug-ins into the engine
signal bone
I think that's a given
novel zodiac
the mission table should be deleted the next expansion
its useless as it is right now
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^ this x 1000
zealous basalt
Yeah
signal bone
yep
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The mission table would be great if you could do it as scenarios
zealous basalt
Or at least give 100000 gold
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like MoP had
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You pick 2 followers and some 'minions' do a mission and then they're on CD for 24-48 hours
signal bone
after it was torn to pieces in WoD / Legion
novel zodiac
economy is shit right now
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Make it work along the isle expeditions
signal bone
just get rid of it, it wasn't good for anything except gold and now that's gone
novel zodiac
mats aren't worth the crafted items
amber beacon
I liked islands.
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Once they got the bumps sorted out
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There are
signal bone
islands are cool
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many things I want they to rescue from BfA
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Islands were testing the new ai mechanics
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Islands are one
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that they want to bring into the game
signal bone
but it's an example of how the game grew beyond it's original scope
AI and randomly generated conten
t
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The new AI CPU
signal bone
if they can do islands, they can do housing (that's better than garrisons)
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bruh
amber beacon
The idea is once they have the AI tech down it's going to be brought into the game world
signal bone
yeah I hope they do ti
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Isle AI is brutal
pulsar iris
if isles could be solod i would like them
signal bone
it would probably be limited to certain areas tho
amber beacon
Yeeessss
Blizz literally took the salt from the pvp community and turned it into ai
and now it fucks with people
it's glorious
pulsar iris
wait is there a way to play bg with bots only? Kappa
signal bone
right, adding it to more areas would be awesome
amber beacon
I hope to god warfronts NEVER come back
signal bone
world content is so boring because it's easy as shit
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pvp warfronts would have been much more fun
signal bone
nah, make warfronts work
zealous basalt
Those are motherfuckers
signal bone
make them better
amber beacon
heroic warfronts were a joke though.
pulsar iris
oh really? how do i know when its time? @zealous basalt
signal bone
they need to stop introducing stuff and not iterating on it
amber beacon
You know things like Warfronts, islands etc are literally beta testing for larger systems?
signal bone
otherwise we keep getting half-baked stuff every expac
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It's why the scenarios went from queable in mop to integrated quest endings
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I actually like how they work
unborn glacier
Going into the future, they should make Rares like they used to be like in MoP, and give them their new AI. Make them something that if it spawns, everyone around stops what they are doing and are forced to work together to take it down for powerful rewards.
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The new legendary cloak system buils on the suramar scenario + mage towers
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the party unification?
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Quest through the whole zone
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where your higher level friends get squished?
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I think there was also a system in place
to prioritise you getting the dungeon you need
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At least for the first six months
novel zodiac
lol same here
amber beacon
Yeah so if you're doing say Highmountain, and you got the end. If you queued random at least during the launch you were prioritised into the dungeon.
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and then finish the zone's dungeon
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Didn't always happen but in 8/10 cases it did
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with some variations of course so it doesn't feel repetitive
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M+ needs some changes too I think
pulsar iris
i would like more if there were scenarios instead of dungeons
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Oh, some zones would end with scenarios
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I'd like to see the seasonal affix become baseline and then Tyrannical/fortified going back to 10+
pulsar iris
doing certain steps and see something happen instead of just going through a lot of bosses
amber beacon
no 2+
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If 10+ is the minimum weekly you need
having tyrannical/fortified as +10 works
makes it a challenge.
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Ye
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then if you wanna psuh the keys thats on you to deal with it
What's the point in having a seasonal affix at +10
If the average player completes a +8
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I like it
storm marsh
I see the leaks & discussion are getting more and more juicy 😂
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I have a leak
Wanna hear it
Like
My leak will be the only one here that is going to be real
We all
Are going to die next xpac
novel zodiac
i still believe in Wrath of the Rich King
signal bone
I would love for them to expand on the mount equipment system
combine that with the mechano cat coloring
pulsar iris
wrath of the rich king VS battle for the auction house
signal bone
we could get some sort of mount we actually build and mod
changing it's appearance and functions
I could see them doing that with tinkers
like you customize your mech suit or whatever
wish they had let DH customize their demon form more
then add mount combat 🙂
pulsar iris
they need to add a shit ton of customization still
tropic trail
This isn’t guild wars 2 tho
white quartz
Auction House just straight up disappears and we have to kill Diablo from Overwatch to use the AH again lmao @pulsar iris
pulsar iris
we demand it
signal bone
I don't see why every idea to expand the game is slapped down by you people
zealous basalt
Because you have to be fucking realistic about wow
signal bone
the game can be much more than just dungeons and raids
white quartz
While I’d love to see the GW2 WvW system in WoW but I don’t want them to just change the entire game and make it a copy of others
tropic trail
Guild wars 2 isn’t complex hence why it can have mounted combat
signal bone
oh come on, they could easily expand the mount system
tropic trail
And other mount skills
zealous basalt
yes but
signal bone
wow isn't complex either
zealous basalt
if they make mounted combat
tropic trail
But everything else is doable
zealous basalt
you kill melee classes
signal bone
I mean, it wouldn't literally be everywhere
it would be some sort of structured content
zealous basalt
You give an unfair advantage to hunters
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that is mounted only
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there is no reason for mounted combat
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Because you can still run away from the others
amber beacon
If you want mounted combat trial of the crusader!
signal bone
jeez, you guys are so boring
zealous basalt
It's not like wow really needs those things
signal bone
it's not like wow really needs anything...
zealous basalt
Exactly
signal bone
no, it needs more systems
signal bone
every expac has been only raids
pulsar iris
wait the game doesnt need anything new so we kill servers?
tropic trail
I wish for more talents but let them be passive
signal bone
and since legion, dungeons and raids
tropic trail
Because I don’t need anymore buttons
zealous basalt
I think there are passive talents haruko 😛
signal bone
they are trying to do stuff with islands and warfronts
white quartz
Just because we don’t agree with making the game entirely different and just a copy of other MMO ideas doesn’t mean we are boring. Sure we all have different hopes and views for the game but that’s for every MMO. Especially an MMO as big as WoW
tropic trail
Yeah but like more 😂
pulsar iris
explain how have i been playing the game since legion then, as i never do dungeons nor raids
signal bone
at some point, doesn't have to be next expac, I would like housing and more mount customization and maybe combat
pulsar iris
i dont
zealous basalt
but i do too
tropic trail
Omg player housing would make me sub for 10 months
zealous basalt
No please
zealous basalt
Better guild housing
tropic trail
Why not
signal bone
Ion confirmed
pulsar iris
i dont even interact with people
signal bone
he wants it
tropic trail
No fuck the guild
signal bone
guild housing would be fine too
pulsar iris
why people want to play house in wow?
pulsar iris
how is it fun?
tropic trail
I wanna rip the orca head off and put it in my house
signal bone
how are WQ fun?
tropic trail
Orcs *
pulsar iris
WQ give rewards
tropic trail
They give shit rewards
signal bone
how is anything in the game fun outside of instanced content
pulsar iris
making a house would give rewards?
signal bone
shit rewards
white quartz
Player housing would be a nice extra thing for the game but unless it’s REALLY deep most people won’t really use it
tropic trail
Nothing about world quests speaks good rewards lmfao
pulsar iris
well the shit rewards keep my characters gear updated
and make me able to play allied races
zealous basalt
What
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IF YOU WANT BETTER GEAR
tropic trail
I just got a toon to 385 without even doing anything
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THEN DO RAIDS
tropic trail
Now world quests are useless to me
signal bone
right, so the game needs more ways to allow for player expression
since raids is for power
white quartz
WQ need to be revamped at least imo. Same with Mythic+. You shouldn’t be able to do Mythic 15 and get gear on par with the new Raid at Mythic difficulty
pulsar iris
i agree with kaladon
signal bone
more mage-towerey stuff
graceful echo
Well for housing: There are Roleplayers. HELLO! We would be SO happy if we could do it.. and do it GOOD. 😄
tropic trail
I mean they have it that way because won’t everyone likes to raid
pulsar iris
and yes, more mage tower stuff
tropic trail
It helps those weird people
pulsar iris
but you roleplay a ADVENTURER
tropic trail
I don’t see an issue with it lol I get to raid all I care about
white quartz
I like Mythic+ but it does need changes imo. Also.... please god give me more mage tower stuff
Please
zealous basalt
I mean you can roleplay as a nobody too
But as a roleplayer I don't really want a house for myself
signal bone
yes, M+ needs some sort of island expedition reward vendor
and a currency you can use
and then they add to that vendor every season
- maybe seasonal only rewards
white quartz
I’m actually all for that Wing.... except I need em to make it so Mythic+ doesn’t give you gear on par or better then raid gear. At least Raid gear Heroic or Higher
pulsar iris
ops
tropic trail
Let’s talk about how they need to update the Christmas outfits
pulsar iris
no one did mak
tropic trail
They are so shit lmfao
signal bone
sure
pulsar iris
but srsly we need to be able to farm for pets and mounts and gear and toys
signal bone
I could care less about what gear M+ gives, it should be fun for funs sake
that's the problem with most of wow's content outside of raids
pulsar iris
a friend of mine has been farming ICC for the past 10 years and has not been able to drop invincible
signal bone
make it fun first, then make it rewarding
tropic trail
Yikes
white quartz
Yes. But it shouldn’t beat what Raids give. Also that’s a HARD Rip @pulsar iris
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AHAHA
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mount boxes?
signal bone
that or just add more skips for older raids
white quartz
No. Surprise mechanic mount boxes duh
pulsar iris
@white quartz i mean if you farm raid, you need to be able to buy raid gear
signal bone
they did that kind of
with the LFG boxes
they haven't updated that in a while
but you can get raven lord
for instancfe
white quartz
@pulsar iris Sure. I’m all for that at least to a degree
pulsar iris
@signal bone i need a skip to dark shaman in soo
white quartz
There would need to be some restrictions for that at least imo @pulsar iris
signal bone
lol I got dark shaman set on my first time there in WoD
storm marsh
So far this and Twlight of Aspects look legal to me. They both sound like something Blizzard would pull off
signal bone
so happy i never had to run that place again
pulsar iris
hate doing that shit every week on 2 characters and not being able to drop the tmog
zealous basalt
what the fuk is that shit
white quartz
Lots of jibberish
signal bone
so...tinkers?
or tinker your class
what does that mean
it's clearly fake, I don't think any of these "leaks" that use shitty camera angles are real
feels so forced
white quartz
Gotta remember. While I don’t fully believe every leak there is usually one that ends up being correct in the end such as the Legion one that nobody believed until it was revealed
pulsar iris
why 10.0?
signal bone
because it's a big milestone for any product
and a world revamp feels like a milestone feature
pulsar iris
i dont feel like they would wait 2 more years just because its a milestone lol
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4*
tropic trail
I’m just excited to know what the next expansion will be called
pulsar iris
3
signal bone
I mean, we don't need a world revamp
tropic trail
We need content to bring us back to old content tbh
pulsar iris
we dont actually need anything in the game right now
signal bone
the game can live without it
pulsar iris
we just want
tropic trail
We don’t need new places
zealous basalt
Again
Do not generalize
We aren't going to come to a general agreement ever if we do generalize
pulsar iris
not generalising. "we" means the group of people who wants
signal bone
I mean, we're not going to have much of any discussion if we don't generalize to some degree
that's how it works
pulsar iris
also i want garrisons back
zealous basalt
We can though
tropic trail
Whyyyy
zealous basalt
Because discussions are something personal thoughts
signal bone
but the game does not need it
pulsar iris
idk i liked garrisons
zealous basalt
Make them better
Make them feel like it means something to advance every 15 levels
tropic trail
I don’t want them to give me more buttons to press tbh
pulsar iris
we need something to fresh up classes, yeah
zealous basalt
And perhaps another row
tropic trail
Like I have enough as it is lool
zealous basalt
They can either be passive
But they shall never
become a part of a main rotation
like imo?
A talent shouldn't never feel like something you forcefully need it
signal bone
classes could use more flavor yes
I liked that the artifacts had cool things like that
zealous basalt
It should be something that enhances part of your current rotation
zealous basalt
Like I agree Haruko
tropic trail
Passive: increases all dmg by 40% while over 80% hp 🤤
zealous basalt
some talents should be passive
Some
But they also have to be balanced between both
tropic trail
I liked that in legion
signal bone
DH - Fel Rushing through allies increases their movement speed briefly
that would be cool
zealous basalt
Like
if we are going to talk about talents
Sindragosa's breath
It should have other talents that have the saem weight
So it feels like we have a choice
And not just
"Use this talent because it's the best"
or
"This talent is never worth taking"
Or make them situational
signal bone
I mean, part of that is the mentality of the community though
there will always be a best talent or whatever
zealous basalt
"This talent is good for this kind of content but it lacks the thing it needs for this other"
pulsar iris
talents should be more similar each row. if it gives you a new active ability, all that row should give new active abilities. not one giving that, and another giving a passive effect
i mean elemental shaman had that issue
signal bone
one of the bigger problems with the game right now is how min-maxers have really ruined a lot of perception about "viability"
zealous basalt
Ye
Also
Another thing it needs for part of the class revamp is
Give us back those abilities you butchered from artifacts
pulsar iris
yup
zealous basalt
Or remove them all
pulsar iris
i miss that demon hunter aoe
zealous basalt
But don't go giving up some classes their artifact power
tropic trail
Every time they do a class revamp a class always gets fucked.
signal bone
I doubt we're getting any more revamps
zealous basalt
It costed class identity
tropic trail
Always just sit there and chew on your nails and hope you didn’t get the biggest nerf in the class
lol
signal bone
maybe shadow priest and sub rogue
zealous basalt
But in Legion the classes felt great
pulsar iris
eh i didnt enjoy ele shaman as much as i enjoyed in pandaria or wod
tropic trail
Sub was fine idk why they touched it
zealous basalt
because it cost shamy class identity
signal bone
the point of legion was to build a baseline kit / playstyle for all specs
zealous basalt
Like that's the only thing I don't like from Legion
They literally bound all clsses to their artifacts
signal bone
they can expand on the specs / classes, but revamps are unlikely at this point
zealous basalt
but somehow it worked
tropic trail
Legion was one of the best everything felt so smooth
pulsar iris
not really i think. it didnt change as much. it just got pruned a bit
zealous basalt
However
FOr BfA
you have a class
that required an arftifact to work
You remove that artifact
and give the power as a talent
and it is either
A perfect replica
Or a butchered thing
When they should have been baselines
pulsar iris
yes
tropic trail
Have any of you tried the new raid as a melee?
zealous basalt
Ye
pulsar iris
i havent even tried eternal palace
amber beacon
Oh goodie more wheelchair shaman action for me then xD
zealous basalt
As a monk it fucked me hard with those mechanics on the doog
But for real
A revamp is needed
deep pawn
M+ favors melee, raids ranged, nothing new
tropic trail
Oh yeah dude. The dmg from casters is ridiculous on every fight melee is like 8
zealous basalt
When it feels you are still playing a class
and not just a spec
Thankfully it feels that they will do that next xpac
amber beacon
I'll still play enhancement shaman. End of the day long as the boss dies and your own parses are high numbers are like 🤷
deep pawn
I mean does a frost mage really need fireball on their bars
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Frostfire
tropic trail
Lmfao
pulsar iris
yes because as a mage you learn all different schools
zealous basalt
I don't know why they removed frostfire tbh
pulsar iris
as a shaman learns to commune with all elements
zealous basalt
It feels like a nice starter for a rookie mage
Its a spells that uses arcane to comine frost and fire
Into frostfire
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ninjas
tropic trail
LMFAO
zealous basalt
They removed chi blast
tropic trail
amber beacon
isn't chi blast still in the game as a talent
zealous basalt
EXPLOSION
deep pawn
Chi orbit never worked
zealous basalt
the one that replaced blackout kick
The explosion worked well
it was literally a build up and
amber beacon
They also stripped shamans of their totems for the most part
zealous basalt
eat shit fuck
amber beacon
Like BRING BACK TOTEMS FOR ENHANCEMENT
pulsar iris
i miss vanilla style totems
amber beacon
I miss the original Liquid magma totem
that had 0 range and pulled everything through the floor 😂
pulsar iris
whenever i see windfury, i feel like it will make you attack twice
zealous basalt
in classic im afraid of that shit
amber beacon
BRF
My raid leader: which shaman dropped the liquid magma totem. (As three floors of mobs come running)
Me - giggles-
amber beacon
Enhancement shaman needs a rework so bad
pulsar iris
yes
pulsar iris
specs would be STICKY FINGERS and ARI ARI ARI ARI
zealous basalt
Arrivederci
pulsar iris
i miss bucciarati mak
uncut lintel
;)) kitsune someone says
zealous basalt
what
uncut lintel
:333 O3O
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...nani
signal bone
I think enh is fun
but it needs more interesting talents
plus, maelstrom is kind of pointless
uncut lintel
O W O no
zealous basalt
o-kay
deep pawn
haha, all the angry people at mmo-c putting the rumors on the front page
tropic trail
lol
terse patrol
dense plover
im pretty sure fanart goes there
cyan prairie
Uhh missed the Player housing discussion... I would love to use dead gnomes as my house decorations
deep pawn
my gnome warrior already has a horse with dead horde heads on it
cyan prairie
There is a head of a dead undead... So just a head of a human? Man... Alliance really are uncivilized barbarians...
uncut vault
Weakauras twitter, I believe
tropic trail
@vernal juniper Were Kyrian the axolotl people from that one leak?
uncut vault
upper remnant
Some discord
vernal juniper
there was a website forgot which one they used on bfa
to registrer trademarker websites
tropic trail
I really need those arcane axolotl if they're a thing
Please be an Alliance race if they ever become a thing
vernal juniper
oh fake weak aura
the are retweeting random shit from the web
that is not a their discover
austere gazelle
We'll see
vernal juniper
trademarks goes live around 1 day before the announce
but can't remember the site where they used in the past
austere gazelle
They leaked a legit page from diablo artwork mentionning lilith too...
And diablo IV
So im not putting them on the fake category yet
vernal juniper
is not hard to do a fake page
uncut vault
keep in mind, these arent from Weakauras, theyre merely discussing them
vernal juniper
I can do it too with no skill on photoshop
tropic trail
Make of that what you will
uncut vault
they each have different sources
Diablo 4 one is much more likely considering its development and intended announcement last year is confirmed
vernal juniper
exactly, they are not from weakaura, they are from random dudes from the web so most lickly fake
austere gazelle
If you say so, i bow before you
uncut vault
WoW ones are likely fake as people create stuff for WoW much more often, such as the last Shadowlands leak
vernal juniper
Legit sources are trademarker website, where they registrer their name
uncut vault
whereas the Diablo 4 ones are based on an actual product, with multiple unrelated leaks reporting the same thing
vernal juniper
this week they need to do so, if you find where they ask the copyright
deep pawn
yep, there's actually a forsaken head on it haha
uncut vault
Yeah MMO champ will report on the copyright right away, just watch for that for a legit leak
cyan prairie
And i thought that Night Elves are primitive... seems like humans are even more...
uncut vault
no leak has ever been confirmed ahead of the copyright and day of blizzcon announcement, only retroactively looked at and said "hey that got it right"
vernal juniper
exactly
deep pawn
honestly the shadowlands logo feels real
when even ercarp is like, "damn, that's good."
vernal juniper
every logo in the past was looking good
uncut vault
leakers are certainly stepping up their art game this year, thats for certain
cyan prairie
the art from the leak also looks pretty real
especially when combined with Sylverian DREAMER mount
uncut vault
this one has a legit new border, where most past logo leaks are just cobbled together past logos with some art put on top
cyan prairie
Father of SLEEP being mentioned
vernal juniper
remember this?
was a fake logo from a random guy who actually got randomly the correct name of the exp
he posted 3 logos
uncut vault
its just the vanilla wow border but with battle for azeroth at the bottom lol
theres always gonna be one leaker that gets it right by accident
vernal juniper
yeah but as you can see is easy to fake if you put effort and skill
cyan prairie
@uncut vault +1
austere gazelle
On mmochamp someone who made fake logo for previous leak season said this one was far to sophisticated to be a mere fake
deep pawn
bigger team, more space for leaks
sullen dawn
Please be real
We almost got our shadowlands, let's drive it home and put a nail in the head of dragon isles
vernal juniper
well the 3 ways are "shadowlands" "blackempire" "wtlk 2.0"
and if they will not test nzoth before blizzcon on ptr
my hope goes to something blackempire related
mighty wolf
uncut vault
it is, theyre already setting up
Blizzcon is insanely massive, they have the whole convention center nowadays
for just one company
storm marsh
Wow. Do yall remember battle net with only 3 featured games on main site 😁 this is so nice to see
tropic trail
Oh my goodness
I so called that will be the next expansion
Now there's a proper leak!
obtuse vine
🤔
cyan prairie
Now i can say that the leak is fake
cyan prairie
I'd love some russian expansion with Drunk Ranger instead
tropic trail
We all know another mail class will never be added
smoky mural
thats not even a belf or a nelf
austere gazelle
this dark ranger things looks like someone jumped on the shadowlands wagon and made its own headcanon based on the previous leak
cyan prairie
Dark Ranger is like a Necromancer
impossible, because both are too similiar to classes that already exist
tropic trail
Nah. Necromancers are late healers
cyan prairie
i mean in terms of possibility to be added
uncut vault
Theyve got plenty of differences, not only in magic stuff but in terms of potential toolkits
the closest hunter spec to them has been gone since WoD
smoky mural
nah they are both in case of emergency classes
uncut vault
all the various DoTs and black arrow were a part of ranged Survival
that is now free
cyan prairie
Necromancer is like a warlock, but summons undeads instead of Demons
and Dark Ranger is a reskinned Huntard
uncut vault
and in the Darkshore warfront, the banshee unit uses their magic to heal, which could feasibly transfer to a dark ranger as well
tropic trail
Bansheeing Dark Ranger spec, huh?
upper remnant
the dark ranger leak feels like a made up thing using the previous leak and unrelated
uncut vault
plus, temporary minions, outside of a talent, have been taken out of Beast Master's base kit
which opens the door for dark minions
upper remnant
does someone have the source
uncut vault
regardless of that image, dark rangers are a distinct possibility. Theyre mail, ranged, and have been prominently featured in BfA more than any other prospective class, and have a major character on the Blizzcon key art of their class
cyan prairie
You think we could get Shadowhunters as their Survi spec?
austere gazelle
I can see dark rangers coming as a class after the Calia / Voss meeting
those who wishes to speak to calia were Delaryn and such
so it can lead up to a dark ranger class
tropic trail
And what would the Alliance equivalent be?
uncut vault
still dark rangers, seeing as Calia is essentially an alliance Character
just send the nelf ones over there
austere gazelle
its night elven dark rangers...
tropic trail
I guess that makes sense
peak fern
just, please, no playable undead kaldorei on the horde side
austere gazelle
the question for forsaken dark rangers does not even need to be asked
uncut vault
if I had to guess, to prevent it from being another elf only class
forsaken and humans would also get it
Nathanos has been a dark ranger since his reformation in Legion
tropic trail
Still, weird distinction to nelves and belves. They would be the only two races with race specific classes, being DH and DR
austere gazelle
The dark rangers are, atm :
Forsaken , high elves, Human ( nathanos) and Night elves now
tropic trail
Oh okay
austere gazelle
you can say blood elves too but the first one were High elves
uncut vault
Well, there arent any forsaken ones beside Nathanos just yet
tropic trail
Human DR sounds more my style
uncut vault
but with Sylvanas now having a bunch of powerups, I imagine she'll be able to make more soon
tropic trail
PANDAREN DARK RANGER
smoky mural
or give horde dark rangers forsaken and alliance rangers
tropic trail
Not
uncut vault
Plus, Sylvanas is now conveniently not Horde-only
which opens up the door for them to go to both sides
tropic trail
I was kinda wondering why the Forsaken aren't allowed in the alliance but Death Knights are
Both are ded. Unded. Deadest ded since Arthas
oak wraith
Because the king says so!
uncut vault
Alliance used to have some faults, and didnt quite take to the level of visual decay that forsaken death knights have. Plus, forsaken death knights are actual forsaken, not just extra-rotted humans
oak wraith
(after we all throw garbage at them in SW)
uncut vault
they were freed by Sylvanas and then died again
tropic trail
Be stealthful as the night. And dedly as the ded. - undead rogue trainers
uncut vault
PC human DK is Stormwindian, where PC forsaken DK is a lordaeronian who had already been scourge in the past before beign freed, then dying again
tropic trail
Effectively dying twice? That's some Sylvanas plot armor right there
Dying to Arthas. Suisaucing after his death. Being shot by Godfrey
Still alive!
uncut vault
forsaken DK has died an insane amount of times
first, to arthas in lordaeron. Then again to arthas, and became a DK. Then again to Arthas atop ICC. Then to Genn in Stormheim, then again from the mistcallers in Stormheim, then again to Argus in Antorus
obtuse vine
I could very well see the dark rangers (if they’re real) have some sort of a similar intro as the new death knight one, maybe death knights are on Bolvar’s side and dark rangers on Sylvanas’s and there’s like an assault on icecrown or something which would fit into the theme of death expansion
uncut vault
that sounds horrible, so its probably what blizz would do
most recent and unexperienced of all the dark rangers being the teacher
tropic trail
Dork Ranger xD
I'd be a Dork Ranger
Shooting those xD arrows
Yup! Nup.
It'd be cool to add holidays weapon cosmetics
Imagine a hunter with a Cupidon bow. That'd be ridiculously funny
btw
that dark ranger thing
is fake
the creator even said it
smoky mural
No really
tropic trail
its the same guy who made the "dragon knnight" pic
austere gazelle
I knew it, ahah, the " Watch the cinematic of the fight between bolvar and sylvanas " is not a blizzard way of saying things
strange falcon
oak wraith
|| 😛 ||
obtuse vine
Holy shit that’s true! I bet that’s when ||Bolvar takes out his Hammer to play with Sylvanas||
austere gazelle
|| she seems to enjoy it ! 😱 ||
cyan prairie
"The Blind queen wields a scepter of Bone" ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
obtuse vine
Sylvanas gets to know how hot Bolvar’s hammer is ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
It would seem the bow she got from Nathanos wasn’t enough
peak fern
now that looks fake
inner copper
I wish it wasn’t it looks cool
limber mural
tbh the fact it doesn't define 'class skin' in the assumption whoever's reading has been here for the past month
screams fake
if everything else doesn't
inner copper
Imagine if Blizzard actually decides to do shadowlands
limber mural
At this point next expac could well be anything
So I ain't really bothering to think about it
tropic trail
imagine skin for lock being necromancer
sullen dawn
Both confirmed fake
The original shadowlands image is still possibly real though (I think it is)
vernal juniper
what do you mean with "original shadowlands image"
inner copper
The ghost ships one
vernal juniper
yeah that is the only thing to me thats descrive a possible shadowlands exp, all the rest meh are only fanstories
cyan prairie
After looking a bit at that picture it seems like it uses different Vrykul boat models
they aren't any of the ones we've seen so far
they look a bit similiar, but are too different to be reskinned versions of them
also the color palette seems like the one used by blizz in cinematics like Rastakhan's Death, Kil'jaeden's death etc.
also the water on that screenshot
looks different from the water we see in game, but looks like water we see in cinematics
that's why i think this "leak" is the best one so far
and before anyone says that these npcs look poorly because they are in their basic pose - go check the cinematic where Anduin speaks after the end of Legion
all the npcs are in their basic pose
dense plover
It’s 100% fake tho
The problem is that when they released this image was so far in advance of when that cinematic would be done
A rendered cinematic isn’t ready 6+ months ahead of release
cyan prairie
This cinematic is made with the in-game models
they don't take as long as the Saurfang-quality ones
inner copper
“Rendered cinematics” means with in-game stuff
So why would it be done 6 months in advance if it doesn’t take that long to make?
cyan prairie
Because the expansion has a plan of start and end
peak fern
my issue with this "leak" is that I do not know the context and this is what annoys me the most, like why is Baine talking to Nathanos and Sylvanas ><
cyan prairie
i'm sure that all the cinematics like the raid ones we get are pretty much ready when, or even before the expansion launches
my issue with that leak is that it mentioned a raid in Stormwind, what doesn't happen in BfA
peak fern
yeah
inner copper
Have you never seen ptr cinematic placeholder screens that say “awesome cinematic plays here”
daring dune
btw, check the Terror of Darkshore, in the end all npcs soldiers has ingame emotes animations
inner copper
That’s cause the cinematic isn’t done
cyan prairie
or, to save space on ptr? 8.2.5 was like 6gb of download
daring dune
cyan prairie
and all it had were just cinematics
cyan prairie
yeah that's what i was talking about
inner copper
In the Anduin end-Legion cinematic the crowd did /cheer and /applaud at the end of the speech
peak fern
it makes sense though, what else should they be doing? :D if I were at some kind of political gathering I would be just standing and listening
limber mural
Honestly I think the situation we're in is this
cyan prairie
yeah, and that's why i think that ppl saying "uuh, they are just standing in their basic pose" is a dumb excuse
cyan prairie
yeah
limber mural
We've seen this before
cyan prairie
and then that person will say that "it was all true from start"
"why didn't you believe me?///???1!11?"
limber mural
Once they've finished buying lottery tickets yeah
peak fern
@cyan prairie yeah, it's also just a screenshot, so what is the deal? But anyway I think that one is fake
cyan prairie
it is like 90% fake
but a good fake
if there were no informations
about the raid etc.
just that screenshot alone
i could actually say that i believe it was real
tropic trail
Wait wah I missed half the discussion
peak fern
yeah, same to be honest
tropic trail
Having a weekend sleeping schedule feels great, doesn't it?
cyan prairie
But Sylvanas and her army
probably coming from Helya
having no sleep for 3 days is still the best option xD
"I don't need sleep, i need answers!"
tropic trail
I had no sleep for a week then fell into a two days coma
So, yah, better sleep
Apparently, my brain wasn't working properly cause it had to always run for a whole week
Don't recommend it. Symptoms are coma, possible death, dry mouth, vomitting, etc
mighty wolf
tropic trail
CONFIRMED 200%
delicate umbra
strange falcon
tropic trail
lol..
never seen a "leak" like this one saying everything from a trailer its funny
but its fake because of the class they said lol
either way all leaks are fake
strange falcon
they're fun to read through most of the time tho
so everyone's having fun regardless :p
storm marsh
Yeah
strange falcon
inb4 blizzard recruiters look forward to leak season to secretly hire amazing artists
🤔
mighty wolf
Diablo IV > Diablo M > Do u have phones guys?
tropic trail
that joke is a year old ^
cyan prairie
I just hope there won't be any of the "LyBeRaTe hOnK-KoNk" bullshit on blizzcon.
Or more stupid phone-jokes
smoky mural
There will be because they deserve it
cyan prairie
I love how many people don't understand, that breaking rules gets you punished...
And how even more of them repeat the shit they hear, without even reading about it...
We just have to hope that people won't act like children and let others enjoy the event.
languid yoke
100% there will be liberate hong kong
but maybe not in the Q&A's, that would be too easy
median monolith
so I'm making a compilation of more specific leak information from recently (inspired by ercarp's spreadsheet, just a lot more specified):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b2UBkZLjW3Upav-9KjLe7bWQjWuk2DG0Daqc2jxCUbw/edit?usp=sharing
if there's anything I'm missing let me know!
white quartz
@cyan prairie Unfortunately people on both sides dont fully understand the situation or everything that happened and like to just jump on the bandwagon. Unfortunately someone will try shit at Blizzcon however it will certainly be lessened by major announcements and maybe even a statement from JAB prior
tropic trail
another shadowlands one
i hate this part "High Elves for Blood Elves"
if that happens
im faction changing lmao
stiff vector
-we meet with the noble Kyrian```lol
he just worked in the leak in there by copy pasting
tropic trail
lol
Wildhammer Dwarves for Dwarves
this
we need this
"-New Capital City (Hub): Icecrown Citadel" big nope
lvl 40 for DKs on that leak is a bit too high
i think we get a lvl squish it will probably be lvl 20
along side DHs
peak fern
the last one is so fake xD ohhh boi
reminds me of all those fan made expansion ideas on wowpedia or wowwiki
tropic trail
@peak fern all leaks are fake :p this is just for fun
austere gazelle
"The noble kyrian" > eyir : such a noble force does not care about mortal thrones
Correlation ?
peak fern
yeah, I know! But some at least don't just scream 'FAKE' :D
tropic trail
would be kinda dumb if Draenei and Undead get heritage at the same time lol
limber mural
It'd be
storm marsh
trolls and draenei are the next to recieve heritage armor
median monolith
@normal niche that's fake for multiple reasons
normal niche
Draenei and Troll Heritage Armor?
I surely hope, that the quest lines would have something to do with something major from their lore.
@median monolith I thought so.
median monolith
- the words were photoshopped after the fact
limber mural
If Draenei can be anything other than BRF paladin set I'll be fine
median monolith
i think it looks cool except for the blue eyes
median monolith
also they wouldn't put mystery apparel next to a revealed xpac character
tropic trail
Troll & Draenei NEED to be on 8.3.5
dense plover
and then they show a generic image
storm marsh
draenei/trolls must be because they're the only races in-game that didn't get the heritage armor % warfront with their race cosmetics. Also Pandaren
peak fern
I'd love something similar to the armor from Draenei concept art to be honest
it always looked so cool to me
storm marsh
thats dope
peak fern
it's simple and doesn't really match the theme draenei are associated with nowadays (aka crystals and plate everywhere)
normal niche
yeah
storm marsh
i hope they announce heritage weapons next expansion
normal niche
also, are these totems able to be transmogged or something?
Dude I want those so badly.
peak fern
Tauren heritage armor has one of those I think?
wicked phoenix
People still call this picture fake because "blue eyes". But what if blue eyes are blue because Bolvar lost it's control ?
When Arthas "died" this blue color just disappeard from his eyes. And he was himself again.
storm marsh
i just won't fall for these images. so many ppl thought stormwind cinematic screenshot was real
tropic trail
i would love if that would be the draenei heritage
but it will probably not be
it will probably be gold and purple lol
my hope is on the WeakAura shadowlands "leak" . 2 of 3 of the leaks are being confirmed to be true, now only WoW is missing
that bolvar thing, I dont know, I dont buy it
same
normal niche
What Overwatch 2 and Diablo 4?
dark furnace
tropic trail
yep
dark furnace
Weakauras posted a new leak
median monolith
i like that one
dark furnace
dark furnace
Love the trademark at the end
white quartz
Big brain moments
dark furnace
lol
normal niche
with the new allied race dk's being a thing, should we expect a dk population increase next expac?
because believe it or not, I've heard that death knight has been fun through bfa.
mostly blood and forst.
median monolith
i mean sylvanas has been killing literally everbydoy
limber mural
frost has been not very well performing i think
unholy trashes it
unholy also quite nice tho
normal niche
ah.
median monolith
tbh though I think it's pretty obvious that no matter where we go, the next expansion's major theme is death
normal niche
since the next theme is death.
I used my DH in legion.
because of the theme
soo
limber mural
i can't get myself to like DH
I can do top dps on it but like
i never feel very intelligent due to it
ya get me
normal niche
and I've lost interests in Demon Hunter, yeah I get ya.
Demon Hunter is a fun class imo, tho if you're geared
limber mural
you just press the buttons and it does big dps
limber mural
my brain is still set to 'veng absolute ass' as it was going into bfa
tropic trail
i miss Veng from Legion it was so fun..
i wouldve rerolled to DH if they were still good lol
normal niche
Yeah,
I should maybe gear my demon hunter, as much as BFA felt like a huge downgrade to her
My current main is an Arcane Nightborne magic, I picked Arcane because of how ridiculous it is
in BFA
tropic trail
ye
austere gazelle
Shadowlands looks less and less fake by the hours
mighty wolf
There will be another exp. name and another features
white quartz
Considering we don’t know the end of BFA everything is still on the table
dense plover
we will know in less than a week
white quartz
Yep
dense plover
the real leak will probably get out 24-48 hours prior
thats historically when others have happened
mighty wolf
valid tundra
I think the weakauras post at least is real, it looks great to me even if it’s not
dense plover
pretty sure its from mmochamp
white quartz
It is
dense plover
and thats totally something you can fake with a private server
which people have been doing for leaks for years
valid tundra
It was first posted to weakauras, or at least before mmo champ
dense plover
no
valid tundra
But yeah it’s totally possible
valid tundra
The 9.0 thread linked to the Twitter post, I haven’t dug beyond that
dense plover
oh, hmmm
i still doubt it
but tbf, paragons were my bet
since new classes that arent hero classes are difficult
b/c of legion
and people want more buttons
valid tundra
Oh, that one was from mmo champ, the guy made them for a concept
median monolith
some guy on the forums still thinks that the bolvar picture is real lol
dense plover
moreso since legion
tropic trail
5 more days until we know whats real or we get surprised lmao
median monolith
right
dense plover
its probably fan art
valid tundra
It’s great quality
median monolith
it really is
valid tundra
And I am hyped true or not