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yep
congratulations makore
you probably broke a record
175%
Ooo, corrupted pieces glow
So glad I'll buy a PC next month and be able to play again
blizz why won't you ever let us have the good mog pieces
Okay guys
purple boy
Lets make bets
Bets on what?
How much do you all think I will last withh
those two asses
~30 seconds?
maybe a minute if you use cooldowns
I have no idea
good job
XD
Oh cool. Xeno is Austin from ShoddyCast
Look at that sweet
leech
im just fockin invencible at this point
Local monk claims he is fockin invincible
you mean makore?
dude gets off his ass
it's getting pretty crowded in there
Hey
So the Chamber of the Heart is a bus?
is it me or
party bus
Mythic tier of Nyalotha just looks bad in comparison to the rest
and this explains how raden ends up corrupted
something is wrong apparently
back to uldum
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What does it taste like?
thats the flavor of the void
black licorice
only truly awful people can tolerate it
and only the worst of the worst enjoy it
cough makore cough
do those quests
i am doing them
At 225 corruption level
Wow, masochists xD
im not doing that
im actually trying to see if the cloak unlocks through these quests or not
my guess is no
what if its a yes
bad luck
He's still kind of a kid though
the place is falling apart
He has a good looking model though
I dont think the debuff is working tho
you had one job
I mean all this build and and we just Dragon Ball Z him...that cant be it theres gotta be something else
it isnt it
Man, I'm liking the Chamber less
about what
Its still too early to make assumptions though
why would he do that if he knew we would use it against him unless thats what he wants
So we can stab him with his... knife
I think N'zoth sided players stab him with the knife
And consume his essence or something
?
lolol
I wheezed so hard
talk shit get hit
okay time to do this
noormally
no corruption
excuse me blizzard
Have fun struggling lmao
this is not vanilla
I wonder if you would one shot with Karma when you have that debuff
Wah?
How much does your Touch of Death do?
Niiiice, most I was able to hit was 98k on my main. Who is item level 404
Haven't played for almost 3 months
kek
I'm just teasing you
Surprised Johnny isn't Johnny Kage
ther ther
Starting work in two minutes
Have a good work
Yes Please! š
Huh?
The boxes the cow gives in PTR
gives corrupted gear
I spent 3~ hours to get the max level and min levels
The fact that Baine is here is just disgusting
nah it's cool, finally he and Anduin can Netflix and chill in Stormwind
how is that disgusting, we know they've been bffs
He's a horde leader
I really hope they don't 180° again and create a new faction war by turning Tyrande on them...
o we all know that will happen 2 expansions from now
they left Tyrande angry with the horde for that exact purpose
I hope Tyrande will turn
If we can kill Greymane, I'll be content
would surprise me. Dog needs to be put down
Uhhh, nah he's good
Honestly, I hope Tyrande pulls the nightelves away from the alliance. Iām over them not giving me my god damn heritage armor
she'll pull a group of them away, and get villainized, then it turns out she only brought 10% of the night elves and most stayed loyal to Anduin
They still need to do the undead and human and night elf but we wonāt get ours till the trolls get theirs and lets be honest no-one likes trolls so itās last
Rip
Itās not though š¤
design wise
They could literally give us the armor we deserve from the original trailer
its the only real heritage forsaken are ever gonna get, at least. Chances are their "heritage" is gonna be about Calia and how evil Sylvanas really always was to the forsaken
Rip, but yeah she will prob take a small group
Would be cool if we could side with her
You'll get to "side" with her, but actually just talk to Shandris about it
and you'll really just help Anduin anyways
O lameee
thats about the extent of player choice we're ever gonna get
Where the fuck is Malfurion
with tyrande/druids
plotting the end of the world if the whispers end up being about him
but probably at nordrassil already
Lmfao heās just sitting at the side lines he had enough last expansion
last xpac did kinda ruin people's view on him cause of uhhh
the forest zone
and the xavius thing
and he did watch his brother come back and leave again
cause she was being tricked by xavius?
if anything what made people hate her is the stuff with the nightborne
Yeah, I feel like sheās always complaining about something itās a real ankle kicker.
Sheās like the ānewā Jaina
Jaina got better at the cost of tyrande and all of the night elves
except shandris
she's cool
LMFAO one down. Yeah jaina is really cool now. Now, itās either Tyrande is going to die or sheās going to become a boss.
she's gonna do something
Either she'll hunt sylvanas, or go after the horde while we're trying for peace
Yeah, if itās to the point where she has lost her way... I wonder if Malfurion will step in next xpac or in the future and will try and help us save her.
It would be nice to see him actually take charge of a situation and not be useless half way through
Jaina should have died in BoD, but it seems like we punched her head too hard and she doesn't know the side she's with again. That made her "unkillable" for now because alliance would cry too much. Malfurion should have died at Darkshore, Genn should have died at any possible opportunity. Unfortunately Jaina and Genn realised that alliance couldn't win the war so they stopped being so aggressive. Meanwhile Tyrande and her like 15 night Elves and 9 Worgen want to keep fighting? xD
I guess she will die in some random quest together with Malfurion and Shandris will become a new leader
I mean if you put two equally skilled wow heroās against each other Glenn is pretty useless. Jaina is actually really strong. If she would of ādiedā it would of been an insult tbh.
Glenn should of died in like legion lmfao.
Tbh he deserves dying because he was a coward and left Lordaeron when they needed help
I doubt if there is any way to make Genn die a "Hero" death
Just with his tail between his legs rip
Maybe by sacrificing his life while defending Anduin from Tyrande
nah it going to be the forsaken that kill him
Tbh I donāt think Slyvanas would win against Tyrande. She literally has nothing to lose at this point. She just wants vengeance.
neither does sylvanas
In a 1v1 it's hard to tell which of them would win
Sylvanas has some "unknown" powers right now
I want to see Jaina and Khadgar fight just to watch how far heād push her lmfao
I donāt want to cuz I know he would whoop that ass

Canāt wait for him to come back like āoh hey guys, Iāve just been sleeping Iām back nowā
I wonder where he is the whole expansion... Playing HS with Medivh or what
In terms of raw power, Jaina outclasses Khadgar. He has the advantage of experience and ingenuity, but she's been the most powerful mortal mage since vanilla
Sheās too emotional tho
Imo Khadgar = Thalyssra > Jaina
Nah Thalyssra spent years cracked out
Khad-dad is just an asshole, compared to an emotional daddy issues woman and a crack elf. I feel Ike he would win just because he doesnāt loose his cool.
All it takes is to get into Jainas head and sheās literally everywhere
well if we're taking emotions into account, khadgar was a kinda bad mage in draenor with the whole guldan thing
when he almost killed garona
Hm yeah. Okay so, we have that. But then we have Jainas baggage. Which I will say, she put on those big girl panties this expansion so she did mature a lot.
well yeah she did kinda have to face her "demons" head on
I hated Jaina until BfA (mostly because she was such a bitch towards everyone since MoP, just like Tyrande is now). Now Blizz made Jaina likable again when she realised she was a bitch and she's trying to become better
My favorite quote from this expansion so far is āYou and I, we donāt get to hideā it really just brings out everything this expansion
I mean it took Varian to die but we got her like-able again lmfao
My favourite quote from this expansion was "BWONSAAMDIII!!!" Said by Rastakhan.
can you imagine if they did a Light Undead Varian .
Just replace Anduin
With a light undead ash jar
Tbh i like Anduin more than Varian. Never understood all the hate towards Anduin. At least he doesn't try to be a "Big Angry Orc" like Varian did.
I just hate that heās hiding something idk what it is tbh.
He just looks like he isnāt telling me the whole truth
I've always liked Jaina, but Ive disliked her presence 8.1 and onward. She's far too central to the Alliance and Horde story. Baine being too scared of Garrosh to help an open rebellion in 5.3, but risking his life and his people's safety for Jaina and her brother in 8.1.5 is ridiculous, and that overbearing central presence only continued into Nazjatar, where we desperately needed more nelf presence, not her.
Nelves were busy killing random unnamed NPCs in the name of vengeance.
Why would they care about some noname like Azshara? /s
honestly, if it were up to me, I'd have used Nazjatar to give a sorely underdeveloped character some screentime finally, Mordent Evenshade. For the amount of time we spent with the nightborne, we havent gotten nelf mage perspective basically ever, and if anyone's gonna know Azshara and Nazjatar, it's gonna be highborne
and if not him, Farondis
we just didnt need a human mage explaining to us what nazjatar is
and how powerful azshara is
On the Horde Side you get some story
Nah nah Farondis doesnāt want anything to do with her
From Thalyssra and Oculeth
Besides heās dead
Heās just gonna randomly show up at Nazjatar lol
Sharandis needed more screen time tbh
The only was Tyrande will die is to follow Slyvanas into the shadowlands lmfao
Way*
I wouldn't say Tyrande needs to die, but atleast a slap to get her senses back somewhat
either they both die or none of them die
since she's actually kinda similar to Sylvanas in terms of revenge for Teldrassil, like Sylvanas wanted revenge on Arthas for Silvermoon (and her own death + resurrection into undeath)
I think theyāre gonna just branch off
Waiting for big dad Bolvar to come and slap her
Imagine Bolvar appearing, killing Tyrande and raising her into undead
I'd literally laugh if that happened xD
Honestly, there needs to be a cutscene where Bolvar literally just slaps the shit out of Slyvanas
I don't see Blizz just straigth up killing Tyrande like that
I'd expect some sort of chain where she comes to terms with her lust for vengeance being a little too excessive, but not giving up her hunt for Sylvanas
THEN maybe it'd be something that drastic happening
Ive learned to never say "I dont see blizzard doing [x]" after BfA
if the writers have the whim
they will do it
no matter the continuity or consequences
of course, I'm not saying it in the way of "it's never going to happen"
Tyrande can even die as a follower mission on the command table
just that there's atleast going to be some story beforehand
Genn has the "uh, i'm sorry my dear Horde, i didn't mean to insult you, i'm not evil, plz don't kill me" armor now
I would go horde
I expected blizz to do another faction-mirrored raid at some point where genn and nathanos were the end bosses and both died, but now nathanos isnt Horde and Horde is just red Alliance so Ive no clue how anyone would die
Meanwhile Tyrande is "lol let's kill everyone for fun" debuff
Go Horde, even pugs are better here xD
Nightborne are even better
ehhhhhhhh, I'd go with NE over Nightborne
Nah nah they got too much crack in their lives
They are both Nelves, but Nightborne are like the Premium ones
NB are clean since the Suramar campaign
Wow how do we know that
Nightborne are the 'holier than thou' cousin of the Night Elves
but not quite highborne level
All crackheads say they are clean till they get some crack š
The questline ends with giving them all fruits from Arcan'dor tree you grew through campaign
That cures them all
well primarily the exiled Nightborne
which should eventually lead to all the others
and we don't necessarily "destroy" the nightwell, we just take the source of its power away and let it die out
like closing off the valve to the water in a normal fountain
Yeah that's what i mean
Horde are really great but I have the bee mount
We have Flying spiders
Which makes alliance 1000000 times better till both factions can use it
Dinos
ngl
Hyenas
I'd go Alliance if it wasn't for my old-time friends being Horde
We have Orcs
and not having many people I know that play Alliance
Fake orcs
and drunk
Lmfao dwarves look like dirty rags with mold
These are the real orks
Tbh i kinda hope for the faction merge in next expansion (or just allowing us choose faction as any race), because i don't want my dwarf alt being wasted in alliance
A dwarf getting along with an orc
I thought blizz said Pandaren being neutral was a bad choice
or something along those lines
Ye
If we could choose Iād go horde all the way# and rub my thic thighs in those NB faces
so I doubt we'll actually see some sort of faction merge in the future, atleast in the near future
Oh? Why did they dislike the panda idea?
idk the exact details, it's just something I heard others mention
I guess we see today if Razorpax is full of crap or not
when responding to someone else mentioning faction ties loosening, merging.. etc similar things
If Blizz wants to balance the factions, both sides need to have same races
It would be the first step
blizzard dont hate the idea of neutral races, they hate how they implemented it with pandaren
most likely referring to how detached they were from their faction during all of MoP
ah that's how it was
well, still, I don't think we'll suddenly see races going cross-faction instead of how it is now, again, atleast not in the near future
well because Tyrande spit on them so they went to horde....
yet, night elves being "savage"/amazon-esque
Tyrande: I don't want another mana addicted hurr durr
Hey itās just Tyrande
was something that made them cool and interesting in early WC1-3, and Vanilla
I mean I killed yellow bunnies when I was bee hunting but that doesnāt make me a bad NE guys
and even TBC and WotLK
which is out of her character compared to WC 3 Frozen throne
I want a vulpera on ally
I mean if I could group with horde people as alliance, I wouldn't be upset anymore
though the horde would cry having a gnome warrior tank their dungeons
Yeah I mean if we can come together in the story why canāt we grp up in open world content
I could see very specific instances/events allowing cross-faction grouping in the future
Me not like where this is going
but I doubt there's gonna be a lot of it
grabs sel and jumps off ship
and prolly at most then... 2. MAYBE 3
nzoth whispers
"You are reborn in my service. The priest of a thousand truths.
Come, child of the Void. Your place is at my side.
Your flesh has been reshaped. A vessel for our glory.
Your flesh courses with my power. Every deed serves my will.
Yes, my servant. Soon your final form will manifest."
Is this meant for void elves? Or that inquisitor female human boss
I would assume the boss
Tbh i Wonder why Gnomes even have customization options. They all look the same after i Thunder Clap them to the ground under my feet.
Lmao
When I see a gnome a apart of me wants to kick a small child
Kick a gnome
Oh I di that all the day with smash bros ultimate
New mini Event in WoW
Gnomes look like half melted marshmallows frozen in the freezer
you're just jealous of pink boar tails
I want a toy that spawns a kickable Gnome
ARE YOU A MARSHMALLOW KYLE
Oh, so the new corrupted gear.. can that be mogged
That gear looks so sick itās insulting that we have to replace it with regular gear v.v
I dunno, search Crinnettie at stormrage, though I'm being basic and using the heritage armor
Yal remember that scene where the blood prince Mortal Combatted the Gnome in Volādun.
Still so funny till this day, like they did gnomes so dirty with that scene, I hope they add more like that on the PtR
I laughed so much when that cutscene happened xD
Even if BfA isn't as great as Legion, at least we can remember all the funny stuff from it
"BWONSAMDIIII!!!", the gnome smashing, "A turtle made it to the water" etc.
dont forget ''something has spooked one of the brutosaurs''
I just really wish there was an essence catch up mechanic coming
Something has spooked one of The brutosaurs, sending it into a panic! This chaos is de last thing de city needs. Help de merchants, by rescuing de cargo, before you get stomped on!
I wish essences were account wide
Unlocking after hitting certain azerite neck level for example
I know they won't do that, for all steps, but maybe at least rank 2 or 3
I've grinded the essences on my main, and i won't do it on my alts xD (Good thing that my guild doesn't need me changing main).
It just takes too much effort
And time since some essences are timegated
yeah, same
I plan on rerolling Vulpera, cause screw 55 dollars to faction/server transfer
I plan racechanging to a normal Orc, but i will grind gold for it instead
I'm making gold at a decent pace now that I'm level 70 on the heart, but still.
But i will make a Vulpera rogue too, so i'm afraid that i'm going to grind the essences on alt...
I could probably make more if I really grinded out flasks and sold enchants
make like 120k in 5 weeks without really trying
Yeah, i'm at lvl 70 too, also doing emissaries on 6 alts when there is a 2k gold one
Also doing dungeons as tank when there is call to arms
i just make anchors on my alts for passive gold so i can buy race change for vulpera
I miss the Legion WQs
mission table more than wqs
Getting 200 from each
i never used mission tables 
Due to the follower equipped with gold giving items
holy that new serpent mount looks sick
The White Cloud serpent? Or that weird black snek?
Do we know which mount drops from Heroic N'zoth?
Or none of the mounts we've seen so far is from him?
Im gonna be so happy if we get vulperan dks
I hope they are an 8.3 thing rather than 8.3.5
I'd like Nightborne DK
I think every races can become DK after the end of BFA
that'd make sense
death does not discriminate
the only races that can't become DK are those who comes after WOTLK
i hope they all us to have racial character select backgrounds instead of icecrown citadel for DKs now
would be a good time to do it
Ah yes, Baine Bloodhoof, High Chieftain of Stormwind
And Anduin Wrynn, High King of Orgrimmar
horde npc in stormwind: 'sleeps'
horde player in stormwind: 'real shit'
pvp turns on and guards with 63k hp starts attacking you
Donāt blame Baine, canāt say no to that twink ass bruh.
Then i oneshot them but they keep coming, because they think they can kill a 600k hp tank warrior who fought Old Gods, Demons, Titans and saved the whole world a few times.
Random Stormwind guard: "I can take him, don't worry my King! I will protect you to my... <dies>"
Same
I mean, yeah he was a bit annoying in 8.1
But fortunately they fixed him quickly
They actually did it before it was too late
Baine is unironically the best Horde character
Just like Saurfang was
I'm sad that Varok died, but at least he achieved what he wanted - An honorable and heroic death.
I hope that no more leaders will die in BfA and next expansion/few expansions.
Nathanos will probably dies
Maybe Voss, and Greymane ( probably setting up Tess slowly as the new GIlnean leader
Why would Lillian Voss die?
She's a really good character. I'm disappointed that she didn't become the new forsaken leader.
Isn't she the Forsaken representative on the Horde Council?
Yes
She is
Rokhan is darkspear, Baine is Tauren, Thrall is orcs
Gazlowe is goblins I think - not sure itās been specified
I wonder if Silverpine will be revamped for Calia
Just thinking, if nzoth/ashara will be dead/defeated isn't logical to thing for a covered by water nazjatar on 8.3.5/9.0?
like Vashj*ir
or even 8.3
oh so is the same Pillar for all the world?
thought was somethin related to nzoth
There were different Pillars used for different things
For example Hammer of Khaz'goroth to shape the land etc.
was a nice refreshing to to cover nazjatar with water, rip.
The best answer here is
There is no reason to drown Nazjatar again
^
It will become outdated next xpac
Yep
next patch
Pretty much
Keeping Nazjatar in it's current state makes more sense than drowning it again - it's easier to fight the Naga on land than under water.
And i doubt we killed all Naga in EP
I guess they wouldn't make another underwater zone after Vash'jir
They wonāt
Unfortunately the melee system doesnāt support it
Same reason we donāt have mounted combat
uhm
Yup
you guys familiar with titan quest or similar rpgs?
What are these similiar RPGs you mentioned?
i was wondering what would be like if wow would replace its current class system with a "power source" system. instead of playing a paladin, you would play a user of the holy light, and then the player itself could decide if he is a priest (wearing cloth, using staff, etc), or a paladin (wearing plate, using sword and shield, etc)
Hi everyone
there would be skill trees and such
what nonsense are you talking about, other MMO's than WoW? B L A S P H E M Y 
That would never happen
Wow is not going to totally overhaul how the entire game works
Thatās a core aspect of the game
i have fun imagining this kind of things
Itās like saying what would it be like if whales walked on land
either it'll be similar to other RPG's classes, or it'll rotate back to something almost identical to WoW classes, I imagine
Fuck if I know, they canāt do that and they would look totally different and wouldnāt be whales
why you like that peach
But we've got some... Fatter people in our world so...
Itās just too extreme of a hypothetical
Itās literally impossible to figure out
Not metaphorically
well there is the thing
I mean literally
Because itās so distant from the source material that itās something unique now
Itās an extreme hypothetical
I'd like to imagine a Souls game in Warcraft universe
just wanted a few thoughts on the subject because i'm pretty much thinking about it by myself and i want to talk about it lol
yes, it would be pretty much a new game. but it's kinda interesting to imagine
The story could get place in idk Northrend
Where the enemies would be armies of Lich King
yes
should totally take place in nyalotha
and whatever black empire things there are
it fits
Yeah it could be like that as well
Just remembered we have Tentacle Souls game already
Bloodborne
tentacle souls hmm
...grummle DK? Have a bad luckydo!
Ok, Lovecraftian Souls Game sounds better
no
My bad xD
tentacle souls sounds better
Tbh it wouldn't be that hard to replace Bloodborne stuff with Warcraft stuff
Like replacing Brainsuckers with K'thirs
Silver Beasts with Worgen etc.
Executioners with Ogres
I'd love a Warcraft game with the Souls mechanics.
and i would love a solo wow
Visions of N'Zoth Patch Voice Over - Tyrande, Alleria Windrunner, Magni, Kalecgos,Zekhan in WoW BfA 8.3 00:00 alleria windrunner 01:23 brann bronzebeard 02:4...
"Thank you, my King"
Lol
thank you my king
Im glad that Baine has stopped to deny that hes an alliance bootlicker and finaly is where he belongs
I mean, that conversation is a fake made with TRP3.
Highmountains should have went Alliance, change my mind.
Well
I was a bit scared that was real
Remember that the tauren were having plans to go into the alliance when things were rough
It continues like this.
the fake dialogue doesnt matter, I was refering to his place in Stormwind
yeah just found out it rpers
Oh yeah, that.
Its all ogre now
I like how we pretend the Faction Split is still a thing while Baine is chilling in Stormwind, yeah.
The cycle must end. The prophecy, must be fulfilled, Anduin !
I think Blizz might really connect the factions in some way
Orcs can now enter Goldshire like they always wanted.
I'll be fine if Cross-Faction PvE and Arenas just become a thing.
Who wants to enter goldshire?
Orcs could always enter Goldshire
But I'd like the Split to still exist for WPvP and BGs.
But not without a few casualties
I think you haven't gone to moonguard to the second floor
This whole place needs to be purged
Oh no, we're too late! This entire city must be purged
dont ask me how i know that
Is that some kind of a RP realm joke, that i'm too PvP too understand?
Although i still think that Worgen looks better in Horde armor than in alliance sets
I think that removing the faction restriction from races would be really good
It would fit the story with the way it goes
And the factions would be a bit more balanced
Because all the racials would be available for both sides
I guess many ppl think the same, but unfortunately i guess there are more who are against it
"The fuck you lookin at?"
Yeah
Well heās pretty big here, makes we wonder if we get āempoweredā to fight Nāzoth
He can do whatever he wants there
Nzoth is somewhere in the real world
What we fight is essentially a physical manifestation of his soul within the nightmare
Yes?
are you mean to tell me that after we defeat him
There is some ugly carcass outside in the world?
His soul
Otherwise yes - thatās what happened with yshaarj - it created the aha
we don't absorb his body, but his essence
Sha
if we absorbed his whole body, it would end just as bad as Y'shaarj's death
Unless origination beam makes the body turn to dust
we dont know that tho
what we kill is just his head
They might pull an Argus and make him small In the real game but huge in the cinematic
The head is pretty big
But also, in game scale isnāt canon
Big bosses can only be so big
Otherwise we are just fighting feet
And thatās no fun
But this is skybox shows his head being prepared way more massive than his actual model
Madness of Deathwing? xD
Theyāve said as much several times
hitting his chin
Deathwing was pretty much the biggest
it made Galakrond look tiny when compared to him
And if I recall many devs said he was too big
IE - visually not engaging as a result
You want to be able to see the thing you are fighting
Donāt take the model size as canon
I kind of wish when we fight Nāzoth he would be so big we couldnāt see his entire body, just his bottom and then we get insta wiped in the first second
That skybox size is probably more realistic
we see only his head
Canonically
his body could be a zone
i still think that Crucible of Storms
Probably decided to go a different route
is part of his body
Probably the remainder of the work they did there tbh
since the whole raid is something "living"
I don't think I like killing the soul of nzoth anymore
Like if thats the reason we can fite
what if the soul actually makes him a bit "sane"
but isn't the origination beam attacking the being in nyalotha
if N'zoth dies like that
it would mean that he wasn't much stronger than Deathwing
But I donāt think he dies
I think he ends up in the dagger
Which is what he wants
G2g bbl
You mean Ny'alotha?
ye
Yeah it's like Firelands for Ragnaros
Or like Emerald Dream for Ysera
Or Emerald Nightmare for Xavius
damn this worgen looks sweet
It is somehow connected with our world, but it isn't physically here
when i first saw the ny'alotha model, i thought it was going to be for wc3 reforged forgotton one model š¦
Yeah, some buffs aren't that nice but others are oof
And then finding the good balanced to not get fucked by corruption
i expect mythic raiders to get under 60 corruption and not go over
for the healing reduction and +% dmg taken
Who knows, we have yet to see what things lower corruption
hey guys how would you like azshara stack balancing but it's an entire patch
wa
So if this leaker is real well the know expansion today
Which Leaker Toby?
Razorpax
It seems like he mostly like got his info from Jericho though, who has bailed out as he said blizzard laywere told him to shut it
Assuming they're not bullshitting anyway
Where is this coming from? Can you send me a DM with the information
he said today (9am) we will know tomorrow
so I think in american time, its gonne be tomorrow
if those 2 ppl dont shit talk we should at least get something (like the xpac name)
well he said wednesday specifically
Me wants more info
Why would blizzard reveal new expansion right before blizzcon
THEN WHERE ARE THE LEAKS? 
it might be something else that gives more info
like a trademark filing, or a ptr build with some spoilerish stuff
because that guy said there will be a presentation/conference today (intern)
and usually thats where all the logo leaks happened before
All I'm going to do is wait and see
I have work at 4 so I hope it comes before then
i like Razorpax's "leak" so i hope its actually real lol
I do too but we will have to wait and see
And when is it supposed to be revealed? Today?
Supposedly
can i see said leak plx
I hate the leak. Which is why I kind of hope for nothing today :0
It's just stupid dragons
I wanna see
It's just like 4 lines
Dragon isles, dragonheart artifact, dragon class with 5 specs
Death badguy
One of my favorite things about BFA and Blizzard for the past few years is that the theorycrafting has been so incredibly over-the-top. It doesn't make sense that they would announce an expansion nine days before the ultimate time to announce one.
aight
now new rental abilities?
thats fake
what is a rental ability?
artifact, essences
how do you even know if its @smoky mural ?
sylvanas isn't in it
so?
she is going to be either the villain or the protagonist of next expansion
but she gonna be in it
sylv or shadowlands focus for next expac.. s n o o z e
maybe she will on a patch and not at launch
I wonder how the dragon isles would be moving
@sullen dawn Can u dm me the leak as well?
what on earth is a talon guard
they littelry have her on the poster of this blizzcon
A Talon guard
I want the expansion to be about Iron Horde again just to make people mad
sounds like some sort of dragonkin-based warrior thing
Wait a minute
Why in the fuck
Or how the fuck
Are dragon spirits
Moving an entire landmass
yeah i thought it sounded dragon kin
did this leak come out pre 8.3 ptr release? i forget when that launched
it just came today by how people are treating it
oh hm
dunno how much credit i'd give it. Why has this one attracted attention
i mean if it was true i'd be hype af. i love me some dragons
ehh they said why above
oh? i'll scroll up
ah, so it's from jericho?
that's the chap who leaked legion, right?
It's likely dragons given all they're doing to help us
i think dragons makes the most sense tbh
i'd expect a dragon and void themed one after what we just had
Senegos gets name dropped as watching the Nexus in 8.3
And i think they make the least
we must be playing very different games lmfao
They would need to make the War Campaign again
No?
This time it would be against Sylvanas
And the main storyline would be about the Dragon Isles
If it's really gonna happen
lmfao
Well yeah, kinda how we saved zandalar separate from the war
that's just wildly incorrect
I mean a hunt for sylvanas campaign is part of the guesses
There is no reason to go to the Dragon Isles for us now
But we have reasons to fight against Sylvanas
There was no reason for us to go to kul tiras or zuldazar until they made a reason
And Sylvanas was shown on the Key Art for Blizzcon, so i guess she's a bit too important to become a side-story questline objective
But i guess all we can do is just waiting for Blizzcon
i guess she will be voice over the reveal teaser like Jaina in BFA teaser.
Jaina was also on Blizzcon key art that year
Yeah and she was involved in alliance storyline
and she is 1 of the main chars of bfa
this "leak" didn't come out today, it's from like 2 days after visions was announced
i guess Syl will be the same in next expac
unless they planned her to be an antagonist...
I just find the idea of Dragon Isles really dumb for an expansion
It would be better as a patch instead
tbf bfa was a dumb expansion, as was wod
doesn't stop them
your opinion is subjective, as mine is
i mean
the Dragon Isles would make more sense before N'zoth's death
let's say we go there to find out more about him etc.
But since he (probably) dies in the next raid, it just feels weird
Dragons:we need help restoring our immortality, we must go to our sanctuary that is not under our control anymore
Bam
why would they suddenly want their powers back?
There has to be a good reason for it, and i don't know what would be a better reason than N'zoth being a threat for now
We have 8.3.5 and a book to go into that
š
Also i think much more hints the death-related expansion, than a dragon-related one.
For death we have:
-"Father of Sleep" mentioned by Il'gynoth (the title was given to Mueh'zala on the Zul'farrak stone tablet).
-Sylvanas feeding some "Hungering Darkness" with the souls
-Bolvar and Death Knights suddenly getting attention from Blizzard
-Bwonsamdi mentioning his "Boss"
-Helya being still alive
For Dragons we have:
-Wrathion, who appeared just to help us defeat N'zoth
-The Dragon Aspects, who appeared just to help us defeat N'zoth
-Some noname Dragons serving N'zoth
this leak is actually pre visions announcements (the us date format threw me)
So we have a choice - deal with the power that can become a threat even bigger than N'zoth, or... go for a tour around Dragon Isles, because one guy wants it.
whilst
wraps up the faction issues and brings old gods to front
true use of heart of azeroth and purpose revealed
were pretty obvious
i think '12 boss raid' is pretty, you know, specific
i'd literally choose anything over seeing sylvanas again haha
it's likely to be expansion themed after Death at this point due to those datamined DK stuffs
those are just from a new dk starting zone
or to be a patch inside the expansion
yea
i would like to do lich kind stuff again though weh
i guess there is a chance for it becoming a ".2" patch
dragon theme and death theme will play bouth hand in hand, in the same way faction war and old god theme did in BfA
i'd literally laugh if the next expasnion isn't death and dragon related at all xD
would make us all look dumb with the speculations xD
this is super super super super unlikely
with Sylvanas being featured for the blizzcon/new xpac, many many hints to dragon and death theme
Well they could tricked us by the datamined stuffs
Maybe galakrond will get rezed this putting the two themes together
Didn't Arthas try to raise Galakrond already?
And galakrond is the hungrying darkness
Sylvanas raising Galakrond would be damn badass
Imagine resurrected undead Galakrond fighting resurrected undead Deathwing
Also remember he was eating other protodrakes and spewing them out as zombies
if Im correct, Galakround was the strongest Dragon that ever existed, right?
and biggest
He was the first
he was One Big Lad
he was a big boi
chonky
but i think Deathwing empowered by N'zoth became even bigger
Also u could bring in chromatus the five head dragon from the thrall book that was locked away and forgotten
tbh i think there could be a good connection for both of these
Bolvar resurrects Galakrond and sends him to Dragon Isles so he can do what he did before
creating an undead dragon army
i think there's so many ways it COULD go
it'd be interesting to see
would mean many problems
Is it sad you said that Maul and I immediately thought āJust use Flex Sealā
lol some time ago, when we were progressing Mythic G'huun, my guildie sent a photoshopped G'huun closed behind a Flex Seal wall
with text "Problem Solved"
someone challenged razorpax to Mak'gora rofl
lmao
Galakrond was never a Dragon, he was a protodrake; the aspects vowed to keep secret the truth of Galakrond, to stave off the potential of anyone else trying to recreate his actions.
Do we have an update on the razorpax leak
Man, Can someone ping me when it occurs? I might be at work by then
New warchief
I doubt the leak is legit
But it still could be plausible
In which case blizz wouldnāt give any info today in an attempt to disprove it
Who is razorpax and what leak? You've peaked my curiosity.
Anyone getting an update for retail?
Blizzard arent gonna change their schedule due to some forum poster
So Razorpeak has been pretty spot on for stuff concering Warcraft starting back in Legion I believe
I always get them mixed up lol
Before jericho noped out
yeah, just 64mb
Yeah well, Jericho got hunted. They are serious with this kind of stuff.


