#beta-ptr-spoilers

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dense plover
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at least, not any faster than currently

novel zodiac
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that's why i like that "leak"

dense plover
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4-5 zones per expac

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that leak is already disproven

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based just on this patch

terse patrol
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I mean, the Shadowlands is still possible. Just not the “leaks” version.

dense plover
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^

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this

terse patrol
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The Shadowlands has been on the table for a long time.

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Also

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Traveler seems to actually tie into it.

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The final book comes out soon.

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Mueh’zala intends to consume Azeroth.

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And there will be one last confrontation between him and the main character of that book before then.

dense plover
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yeah it definitely seems like muehzala is an increasing possibility

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no guarantees yet tho

terse patrol
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Ye.

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Mueh’zala would be cool. Almost dont want it though because yet more troll stuff

dense plover
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yeah thats the main issue

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trolls after trolls

languid yoke
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it ties in with bfa tho

terse patrol
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Troll spam.

languid yoke
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but also older wow stuff like lich king

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tbf we have trolls almost every xpac, it does not even matter anymore lmao

wise crest
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Troll spam

languid yoke
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exceptions: WoD and Legion

terse patrol
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Ye, but now the big bad will probably a Loa.

wise crest
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After having two back to back expansions about Draenei

terse patrol
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Be a*

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wod wasnt about draenei what

ionic terrace
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looks like mecha and vulp login screens

wise crest
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Also I think Muehzala isn't a loa

terse patrol
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WoD was Orc Town.

wise crest
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Hes seen as a loa

terse patrol
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He certainly responds to his worshippers like a loa though

wise crest
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So did Ghuun

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And as we saw, Nzoth also liked making deals

novel zodiac
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meaby he's some sort of entity like Elune

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we don't know what the fck is elune yet

sour burrow
novel zodiac
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a toy meaby?

sour burrow
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AR Banner.

uncut vault
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More likely, the banner for the embassy

novel zodiac
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oh yeah

wise crest
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That's been in the files since the first ptr

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Also I'm being told they added a totem for mechagnomes

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Can someone show me

dense plover
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I dont see anything like that

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im looking through the models

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I do not see that

wise crest
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My download is going so slow ugh I wanna seeeeee

dense plover
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well servers are still down

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so if someone told you its on the login screen, they 100% lied to you

wise crest
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What

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No I was told its in the new files

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I just haven't downloaded them yet

dense plover
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uh, you cant just see stuff in the files

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and the model viewer doesnt show any totems from what I can see, though there are a lot of models to look through

wise crest
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I'll check soon.

dense plover
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who told you tho?

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if they can see it, why not take pics?

sour burrow
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They uhh, made female Vulpera's backs fluffier. LOL

terse patrol
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lemme see

uncut lintel
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i wanna see

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link picc

sour burrow
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I'm diffing the skin of them. One sec. Also:

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But yeah, some changes along the back and a bit to the foot. Hard to tell w/o visiting yourself.

uncut vault
sour burrow
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Arm and back, actually but yeah.

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What's that one Port?

uncut vault
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ebon blade vulpera

novel zodiac
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i whish we could change the face and color eyes without messing with the other

uncut lintel
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same

dense plover
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yeah they might be adding new DKs

sour burrow
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Maybe for 9.2.5 Destroyer. :P

uncut lintel
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ooo rlly?

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that b cool

sour burrow
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Weird changes to the scalp / back of head connection this build. Will be curious to view the barber shop again after it comes up. Male and Female both had edits to the Face Mods relating to that part of them.

uncut vault
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probably to make them more distinct, theyre a bit faded on a lot of the skin tones last build

wise crest
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so

sour burrow
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Yes, it was subtle before. I kind of liked that so I'm apprehensive.

wise crest
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theyve added death knight skins

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for vulpera, lightforged and velf

dense plover
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its also possibly to fix the cloth helmets tobias

tropic trail
dense plover
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lookin good

round lake
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Hmmmm I wonder why they would add DK skins for those

dense plover
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because they might be adding DKs

sour burrow
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Vulpera Military Guard heh

dense plover
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lots of people have been complaining about no new dks

wise crest
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yeah i think its evident theyre gonna give them a dk option

dense plover
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and the intro needs to be updated badly

wise crest
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i guess a death related expansion would be a good a time as any

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to add like

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a new intro for dk's of ar variety

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may even see pandaren dk's finally

languid yoke
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oh about back of scalp, it cut-off horribly

sour burrow
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Vulpera "Noble Caster" eh?

languid yoke
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texture there didn't look great

uncut vault
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I can imagine them making a new DK starting area with Bolvar instead of Arthas, more akin to how allied races start now

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just a little speech from bolvar, now go help your faction

sour burrow
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Port, what was the file name for that skin?

round lake
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Is t there encrypted bolvar text or something too

dense plover
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no

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theres audio

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but both it and broadcast text are encrypted this build

uncut vault
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I just go through the pages of new stuff, dont look at the file names lol

dense plover
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it would be fitting if both things are part of new DKs

uncut vault
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new model for the base of the devouring maws, matches much more

round lake
dense plover
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ah

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there was an ICC map last build

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it had no changes

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northrend scenario was last build too, again, no real data

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its real hard to predict anything when we essentially just know file association

terse patrol
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tbh, I kinda wanna get art done of a Lightforged DK whose skin is cracking apart from Light within.

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@dense plover

dense plover
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just to inform you

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those are npc textures

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no playable skins as of now

terse patrol
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Ye I know

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But it kinda confirms they’re opening it for playable stuff later.

uncut vault
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most likely, theyll just have the blue glow orbs over the eyes, since none of them currently have the full blue eye texture

terse patrol
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Death Knight initiates don’t have blue eyes.

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Go check in game.

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These are likely new initiate NPCs.

meager zodiac
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i think this kinda kills the theory of a another pair after mechagnome-vulpera pair

uncut vault
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well, Id say blue orbs is better than bright yellow lightforged eyes 😛

uncut lintel
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sooo

meager zodiac
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since they are already adressing giving them death knights

terse patrol
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also

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If they don’t make Dark Irons beards covered in blue fire

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It’ll be a missed opportunitu

meager zodiac
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i wouldnt be suprised if it was the last one unfortunatly, making the horde the clear winner of AR as a system, feeeeels baaad

terse patrol
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Opportunity*

wise crest
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I don't know. I think this is clearly leaving room to give new ars dk

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It would be odd to have a race which has existed on Azeroth for ages to somehow miraculously not have dks

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So giving the dks a new beginning zone allows for each new AR to be given the class seemlessly

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Without having to resort to explaining how a velf can be a death knight when velves didn't exist then

dense plover
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oh they definitely need to update the DK intro

wise crest
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Yeah. I think the intro is being updated for ARs specifically

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And Pandaren

dense plover
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would love for an updated intro staring bolvar

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not just for ARs

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for everyone

uncut vault
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would be a lot easier to make it evergreen

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so that anything added in the future can just be in the new one

tropic trail
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how likely is it that Sylvanas is going after Bolvar/Northrend right now?

dense plover
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0%

tropic trail
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and the Blizzcon cinematic is going to be how she fucks up Bolvar?

dense plover
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sylvanas is pretty much gone this expac

tropic trail
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Im talking about next xpac

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or even the pre patch for next xpac

dense plover
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yeah I dont think they plan for next expac to be wrath 2.0

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also bolvar would win

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easily

tropic trail
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Nah, dont think so

dense plover
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Dude was half killed, raised by dragon fire, and was able to single-handedly handle the helm of domination

tropic trail
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he would not win a fight against Sylvanas without his scourge

dense plover
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yes he would

tropic trail
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totaly disagree

dense plover
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he is much stronger than her

tropic trail
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hes nothing compared to Arthas Lich King

novel zodiac
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meaby this means a lvl squish?

dense plover
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He is stronger than arthas

tropic trail
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haha

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never

dense plover
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like, easily

novel zodiac
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dk's can start at lvl 55 if the max lvl is 60

tropic trail
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Arthas had frostmourne, Bolvar is a noone compared to his powers

dense plover
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you dont have to change the intro to change numbers destroyer

uncut lintel
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theres no level squish yet....

uncut vault
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Sylvanas is almost certainly being saved for a present-day appearance for 9.0

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and blizzcon, most likely

dense plover
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^

uncut vault
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she's appearing in a flashback to explain the azshara stuff adn thats it

tropic trail
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thats right

dense plover
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she shows up in 8.3 in the raid in a vision

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but thats it

tropic trail
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but mrpreach you have a total wrong view of Bolvar powers I think

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unless I missed something

strange falcon
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@wise crest blizzard official statement on AR dk's was "we are thinking about it,100% not this expansion"

tropic trail
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because he is not even close to be as powerful as Arthas was

dense plover
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Dude was literally blessed by

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oh shit

stiff vector
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someone went shopping

dense plover
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What about Bolvar as the Vassal of Life

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He was blessed by Alexstraza

tropic trail
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vassal of life so what?=

dense plover
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and he is forced to rule over the scourge

tropic trail
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makes that him stronger?

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no+

dense plover
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no

tropic trail
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or at least we dont know yet

dense plover
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the new whispers

meager zodiac
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are those high elves/

upper remnant
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What's that Marlamin?

tropic trail
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whats that lol

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wait

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is this a high elf?

meager zodiac
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its a before and after

upper remnant
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Eye blue

dense plover
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might be vareesa

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with new armor

tropic trail
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why would she wear pandaran trash?

upper remnant
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Isn't she blonde

dense plover
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@stiff vector what is that image?

stiff vector
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some npc texture

upper remnant
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Yeah not vereesa but random helf

terse patrol
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Not vereesa

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Wonder why her armor is red

stiff vector
dense plover
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well thats MoP armor

terse patrol
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(pls dont make them join the blood elves)

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ah

stiff vector
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darion and bolvar vo, encrypted icecrown map

dense plover
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oh, darion mograine too

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yeah speculation right now is probably new DK intro

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which is why there are a bvunch of new DK skins

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currently npcs

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but...

tropic trail
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finally

stiff vector
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hmm not entirely impossible

terse patrol
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If theres a new DK intro in 8.3

stiff vector
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will need more DBC entries to be that tho

dense plover
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i mean, this build is the second

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certainly possible

terse patrol
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Then we might actually get allied race DKs in 8.3 or 8.3.5

wise crest
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8.3.5 i imagine

dense plover
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i mean, if theyre adding the races, why wait for 8.3.5?

wise crest
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down time between expansions

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people arent gonna be levelling dks during the raid patch

dense plover
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eh

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DKs wouldnt add that

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DKs start at 60, thats not a lot of leveling time

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thats what AR are for

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and theyre adding them in 8.3

zealous basalt
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What

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Is the topic rn

dense plover
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bolvar and darion audio, icecrown encrypted scenario and such

tropic trail
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mhh Im curious what Bolvar gonna do to make AR DK being a thing

dense plover
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going theory is new DK intro with AR DKs

tropic trail
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just an attack on us?

dense plover
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he might just be like - Azeroth needs help

wise crest
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i think its more likely

uncut vault
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Im honestly not even sure if there will be an 8.3.5

wise crest
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yeah

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lots of people died in bfa

uncut vault
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all the wrapup stuff seems to be in this patch

dense plover
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or he might use all the dead from the raid

wise crest
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corpses doing nothing

dense plover
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8.3.5 will be transition

wise crest
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sylvanas could use them

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so

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to prevent her

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he just

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raises them himself

dense plover
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remember, the sword hit silithus in 7.3

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not 7.3.5

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but it didnt do anything until 7.3.5

zealous basalt
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3.2

uncut vault
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oh I know, I more just mean that the impact of nzoths death seems much more subtle

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only someone like Alleria seems to notice it

dense plover
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well its all encrypted

round lake
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Um so there was somethign with Bolvar

dense plover
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well, we dont know the context for that

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it could be from a vision

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or inside the dream

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yes, but its encrypted

round lake
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I said that earlier and was told no lol

dense plover
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no, I said it was in an earlier build

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which it was

round lake
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ahhhh

dense plover
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its just not empty anymore

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but now its encrypted

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and they added other stuff

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a lot more stuff

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all under 1 encryption key

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which means its all related

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now if only servers would come back up to see if they fixed some of the major issues or added story content

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AH

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dont tag it as expac

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its way too few files for an expac

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also, new cloud serpent

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probably a drop from the invasion

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probably specifically mogu considering the name

terse patrol
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A void cloud serpent would be cool, but looks like not

dense plover
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NEW Piercing the Heart

NEW Stage 1: Defend the Chamber of Heart
Defend the Chamber of Heart
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new scenario

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probably how the patch starts

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looks like the scenario for the new pet dungeon is in too

uncut lintel
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wait new cloud serpent?

dense plover
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also, Nyalotha is now tagged as the waking city

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yes, its probably a recolor]

uncut lintel
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O

dense plover
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chalcedony

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so probably from the mogu invasion

uncut lintel
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there no picture?

dense plover
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no

uncut lintel
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;-;

tropic trail
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Im hoping that next xpac somehow Bolvar dies and Sylvanas will take over as the Lich Queen. Would be really cool

dense plover
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model isnt in

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just the string

terse patrol
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They found mechagnome DK skin now. @dense plover

uncut lintel
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o ok

terse patrol
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Mechagnome DK would be kinda cool tbh

dense plover
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yeah, that makes sense - definitely seems like it probably takes place post raid

terse patrol
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Chainsword Runeblade.

austere gazelle
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My theory is that sylvanas open the shadowlands and rez all the dead from nzoth , some resist her call and are summoned by bolvar to becole DK hunting sylvanas . Bam , explanation for all the new DK races

dense plover
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new affix has been renamed Corrupted

tropic trail
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Thats makes sense EnGal

dense plover
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pink cloud serpent

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tho description is PH

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cloak renamed

tropic trail
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POG Sandy Nightsaber

dense plover
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Ashjra'kamas, Shroud of Resolve

languid yoke
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those new cooking food names hurt more than Big Mech

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I love htem

uncut vault
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the serpents are white, not pink

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the pink refers to the flowers in the arboretum

dense plover
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the description says pink

uncut vault
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chalcedony is a white rock

dense plover
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"coloring their scales a soft pink hue"

uncut vault
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plus, the Rajani have white cloud serpents

tropic trail
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its pink

uncut vault
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their flying mounts are white cloud serpents, right outside where Ra is

uncut lintel
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HOLY

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I WANT THAT

tropic trail
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pink

dense plover
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and chalcedony can be pink

uncut lintel
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THAT FKCIN PRETTY

dense plover
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pink chalcedony

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goddamn I want servers online so bad

uncut vault
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huh, wonder why theyre showing off so many white ones then

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Id much prefer them as a mount

tropic trail
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lol

dense plover
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because they are

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theres a DK skin

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so far a whole buttload of ARs have skins

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along with pandaren

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which may imply they plan to add DKs to ARs

uncut lintel
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y e s

sullen dawn
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pretty clickbaity to say 'lich king expansion incoming'

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even if a death expansion is speculated

lethal folio
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northend 2.0 pls not 😮

frigid crater
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pandaren dks! POGGERS

dense plover
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yeah

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i dont like the title either

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it should say datamined lich king assets - AR DKs?

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thats a much miore accurate less clickbaity title

sullen dawn
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i mean death is definitely what i want expansion theme for 9.0 don't get me wrong, but it's a greasy title

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it's like saying 'Dragon Expansion incoming?' when we got the dragon VOs

tropic trail
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I think its pretty clear that the next xpac is 100% death themed, with here and there some voidy and dragon stuff (like the dragon isles)

dense plover
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dont make any claims

tropic trail
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but I do

dense plover
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I thought 8.3 was dragon isles

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that didnt happen

tropic trail
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Im pretty sure its going to be death themed

sullen dawn
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no arguments tilted (even it's not 100%)

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yeh but a lot of us said 8.3 wouldnt be dragon isles mrpeach

wise crest
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all allied races + pandaren got a male + female dk skin

lethal folio
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and at blizzcon they say 9.0 is the new 1.0 😄

wise crest
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for an npc

tropic trail
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death themed doesnt mean we will be in the shadowlands and it doesnt mean a northrend 2.0

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it means

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death is the PLOT A

sullen dawn
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i tihnk it is tilted too, but we should move away from saying 'it will be this way'

tropic trail
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while plot B and C could be dragon and void stuff

sullen dawn
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conversations got heated in the past and people dont want egg on their face, plus it makes it harder to have a conversation

dense plover
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^

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try to say "I think" when talking about future expansions

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Call me out if I forget

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im not perfect either

sour burrow
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Up.

tropic trail
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Well, "I think its going to be 100% an death themed xpac" if that makes you happy :>

uncut vault
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theres also a difference between a death xpac

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adn a lich king xpac

tropic trail
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^

uncut vault
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lich king is only one tiny piece of the whole death spectrum set up

zealous basalt
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What a ugly name for real

lethal folio
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World of Warcraft Born of an Corrupt Titann

austere gazelle
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Sylvanas is on the blizzcon spotlight. Its death.

dense plover
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SERVERS UP

tropic trail
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My main issue was always the everyone dying bit

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I'm not against a death themed expac

uncut vault
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that reward seems.... low by blizzard standards

tropic trail
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I just think it's a waste compared to a black empire expac

dense plover
uncut vault
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death has a hell of a lot more to explore than black empire led by three old gods we've now already seen and fought

tropic trail
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^

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That is until they're expanded upon

dense plover
obtuse vine
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It was I’m pretty sure

tropic trail
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Seems like a waste to make all these updated old god models just to segway into

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"Lol spooky deff."

uncut vault
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Nyalotha name change, looks like

dense plover
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yeah I said that

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waking city

tropic trail
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Lich King is raising new DKs to fight Yogg-Saron

languid yoke
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oh heck the spotted pattern really looks different now

tropic trail
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Think it's just the lighting

storm marsh
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That is a dope background

uncut vault
uncut lintel
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goddd i cant wait for vulpera in liive

uncut vault
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spots are very dark now

zealous basalt
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Dots

sour burrow
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Port: I was looking at that just right now.

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There's some fur colors that have the same tint between strips and spots, and some that are vastly different.

tropic trail
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oh they added 3 more WBs

sour burrow
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I wouldn't be surprised if they tweaked it just a little more.

dense plover
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WBs?

tropic trail
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world bosses

uncut vault
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I hope so, its a bit too noticable now

dense plover
lethal folio
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new raid itemlvl on normal is 445 HC 460 and Myth 475 😮

ionic terrace
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Nein

dense plover
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amathet invasion is working a bit better

zealous basalt
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What about the cloak

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Was it fixed?

dense plover
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gonna check

lethal folio
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i upgradet it now

dense plover
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they added more dailies

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max level is 445 now

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which makes more sense

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thats normal raid ilvl

uncut vault
dense plover
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so heroic and mythic probably have upgrade items

lethal folio
dense plover
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huh

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so mines bugged

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gotcha

lethal folio
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maybe reload

uncut vault
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Mines capped at 445 too

dense plover
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btw, quests in zones give progress to the assault now

sour burrow
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The rest of the vulpera helmets were added in / connected.

dense plover
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holes in ahnqiraj are fixed

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probably the same for the water surrounding vale

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ill check in a bit

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uh oh

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when they go to heal azeroth now

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it squirts void

sour burrow
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Still a COUPLE of helmets missing on vulpera

uncut lintel
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anyone know what the male vulpera dance is?

uncut vault
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thats always happened Peach

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since 8.0

dense plover
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they changed the ilvl

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so it starts at 445

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but it goes up by 10 every 5

uncut vault
dense plover
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in between, it doesnt change

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still sorta bugged

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anytime between those 5s (5, 10, 15) it resets to 445

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eye of nzoth buff was restored

vivid harness
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i found the soo entrance

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they un dug it

dense plover
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thank god

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pic?

vivid harness
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sure

dense plover
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so we probably start the assault stuff

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and meet wrathion on the way

vivid harness
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hopefully they open it soon

dense plover
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XD

vivid harness
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also was yu'lon in vale before 8.3?

dense plover
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water is still missing

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yes

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she was

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all 4 spirits are there

vivid harness
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ah

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you'd think they would do something

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but nah

dense plover
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currently the eye doesnt tell you the remaining zone time unless viewed from outside the zone

vivid harness
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i was about to head over there now

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see what it looks like

forest sphinx
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So how are you guys tying the encrypted stuff to DKs?

uncut vault
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blacktalon agents have been in honeydew since MoP

vivid harness
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@forest sphinx its the dk starter gear that they are wearing and also a ebon blade tabard

dense plover
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its all under the same encryption key

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music seems new too

forest sphinx
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This is crazy lol

dense plover
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might be from old vale

vivid harness
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thats new from soo vale im sure

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when you fight protectors its just a crater im pretty sure

uncut vault
vivid harness
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uhm

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what

uncut vault
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mechagnome area was updated, now it starts in the final boss area, with gelbin and erazmin

dense plover
uncut vault
dense plover
vivid harness
#

jesus christ blizzard why

#

oh yeah just have mekkatorque sitting there

#

why not

forest sphinx
#

This is getting better. Are you guys crashing less?

dense plover
#

yes

forest sphinx
#

Cool. Btw I’m powerleveling a horde toon and an alliance toon.

dense plover
#

fuck me, gravebound is bullshit

#

every time a void skeleton hits you it applies a 10% increased dmg debuff that lasts 30 sec

#

thats so awful

#

they literally just kill you

#

@forest sphinx you dont need to level, just copy a toon from live

forest sphinx
#

That’s the problem. I don’t have any more level 120 characters anymore

uncut lintel
#

what?

#

what happened

forest sphinx
#

I completely restarted myself. Decided to take this more serious and really get back into the game.

uncut lintel
#

o k

dense plover
#

oh jesus, AP amounts dont start increasing until much later on ptr

uncut vault
tropic trail
uncut vault
#

yeah that happened with kul tirans too

dense plover
#

where is that?

#

porter?

#

ah, vanquishing the darkness is now a bar quest

#

so you know how much you need to do

uncut vault
#

heart chamber

#

from SoO, in the open world

dense plover
#

woah

barren latch
#

So.. now the race that "was allegedy unaffected by the LK affairs" is a DK

#

Huh

uncut vault
#

which?

barren latch
#

Panda

#

Guess we'll have to wait what the F* is going on with the Lich King anyways

novel zodiac
#

how were they unaffected?

#

they're just fat bois

barren latch
#

Is that a real question?

novel zodiac
#

yeah, im not a lore master

barren latch
#

Well

#

LK literally didn't even know they existed, that for starts

uncut vault
#

cmon, mechagnomes even have the best shaman /silly

#

"I like to make jokes about the elements, but only periodically."

barren latch
#

They just were... lost in the mist

#

wow

#

just wow

#

Blizzard pls

#

Those puns

novel zodiac
#

dude

uncut vault
#

the wandering isle ones werent, there was a pandaren DK in WoD

novel zodiac
#

they can make a new quest chain or starting zone for new dks

#

is not that hard

#

we have bolvar

barren latch
#

Oh, is not about hard

#

is about a weird retcon

#

Huh, pandaren DK in WoD?

#

🤔

uncut vault
#

I imagine if Chen had accidentally gone to Lordaeron instead of Durotar for his brew, he'd be a DK 😛

novel zodiac
#

that was just a joke

#

that went too far

barren latch
#

oh

uncut vault
#

nothing about it indicated it was a joke

barren latch
#

Well I just don't know how it could happen, unless there where a island of pandaren still lost in the mist that the LK army somehow found

night swift
#

Oh baby every race being dks

#

The superior class

uncut vault
#

plus, Kosak tweeted this out a while back

novel zodiac
#

followers from the tabern were ridiculous AF

barren latch
#

yeah that's what I was kinda implying

dense plover
barren latch
#

well we'll see how it goes

#

I just find it weird

novel zodiac
#

there's weirer shit going on, like, why would the horde accept calia as the forsaken leader

barren latch
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

dense plover
limber mural
#

there he be

#

nice to see the pandas fucking finally getting a run-out since the end of Siege

sharp locust
#

Can anyone tell me what time the ptr raid testing is going to be in PST?

dense plover
languid yoke
#

hey I see me

uncut vault
#

yeah thats one of my favorite things this patch

#

its nice just sitting next to him

#

and listening

dense plover
#

do vulpera do the thriller dance?

uncut vault
#

No, its what does the fox say

novel zodiac
#

yeah

#

part of it at least

uncut vault
#

the men even mouth that phrase in their dance

night swift
#

Its actually what does the fox say?

#

Omfg

novel zodiac
#

yes

dense plover
#

oh

#

make camp works

#

literally its a second hearthstone wherever you want

#

but 1 hour cooldown

#

no model currently

#

i imagine itll place some kind of tent or something eventually

uncut vault
night swift
#

The camp thing would be helpful

dense plover
ionic terrace
#

yes

uncut vault
#

Yeah, since legion

#

for the order hall story

ionic terrace
dense plover
ionic terrace
#

all the signs in SW vision are in old god language

zealous basalt
#

Don't touch the gnlme

uncut vault
#

for some reason blizz didnt show this off, goblin heritage has a second look

#

much better IMO with the goggles down

pulsar iris
#

actually it has been shown

night swift
#

They did show it

long blade
#

it has been shown @uncut vault

night swift
#

The female goblin in the video is wearing the helm with them down

plain vigil
#

Both gnome and goblins have adjustible goggles. Tauren and Dwarves have a special item rigged (Totem and kilt) and then Worgen and Belfs have the options of a skirt or pants

#

Deathknights point at a confirmed Shadowlands expansion

night swift
#

Anduin and Jaina discuss bolvar

#

It couldnt be more obvious now

forest sphinx
#

Think we are going back? Or dealing with Bolvar?

night swift
#

Bolvar hasn’t done anything... yet

uncut vault
#

do they discuss him? where?

night swift
#

He could be plotting something since we revived the 4 horseman in legion

uncut vault
#

oh, new stuff

night swift
#

Ye

uncut vault
#

they retconned the Shattering lol

night swift
#

Maybe Taelia finally learns of what happened him

forest sphinx
#

Maybe? Have to wait and see

#

Sylvanas is hiding though which can’t be good

#

And my gut tells me she’s in Northrend

night swift
#

If bolvar is being talked about its very possible

#

Maybe sylvanas goes after him?

forest sphinx
#

Where else could she be?

night swift
#

And he gets pissed and attacks

tropic trail
#

I think a Bolvas vs Alexstrazsa is more likely

#

but Bolvar could also fight against Sylvanas, if he really cares that much about "balance"

pulsar iris
#

bolvar has been talked about since 8.0

uncut vault
#

also, what kind of nonsense is this line

#

Jaina: I remember your father once telling me that the hardest thing about a promise isn't keeping it, but knowing when it's right to break it.

#

why is jaina only written in sappy one liners

forest sphinx
#

I don’t see it sappy but how she always been

#

Sorry, I’m at Disneyland and have been checking when I can

flint meteor
#

Eh

#

Before all that sylv is aiming for nzoth

dense plover
#

holy shit, the amount of work put into all of the mechagnome emotes

night swift
#

Are they new?

dense plover
#

a bunch are

#

the no is so sassy

#

they might have just taken gnome emotes and edited

#

but they made them more robotic

#

i would capture a gif if I could

wise crest
#

GAZLOWE

#

IS THE NEW TRADE PRINCE

#

FUCKING REJOICE

uncut vault
#

yikes

#

unless theyre dismantling the bilgewater cartel

#

why is gazlowe leading it when hes steamweedle

dense plover
#

called it

uncut vault
#

god its even worse

dense plover
#

because gallywix literally tried to enslave them all?

uncut vault
#

they openly acknowledge that he is steamwheedle

#

and then ignore it

dense plover
#

because gazlowe actually cares?

uncut vault
#

Dont get me wrong gazlowe is great

dense plover
#

because gallywix tries to kill them in the heritage scenario?

uncut vault
#

but if theyre going to make him leader, he should make a new cartel

#

not swap for reasons

dense plover
#

i mean, he might?

#

idk

#

nows the time for feedback

vivid harness
#

wait gazlowe is the new trade prince?

wise crest
#

why would him being steamwheedle prevent that

#

goblins are all about money and power

#

if gazlowe can buy out the position why would the bilgewater goblins care

#

theyd just flock to where the money is

vivid harness
#

well shit he is i guess

wise crest
#

Or rather it seems Gazlowe has usurped from being a steamwheedle member

#

to being the Trade Prince of the Bilgewater

#

and he may eventually outbuy the steamwheedle as well

#

and rule both

uncut vault
#

but on a side note

#

how does blizz think that removing three leaders in three months from the horde

#

is a good idea

dense plover
#

there you go

#

enjoy the sass

vivid harness
#

i hate her face

dense plover
#

fuck you, i picked it

#

/s

vivid harness
#

no like the face she makes when she emotes

#

its disturbing

dense plover
#

but seriously tho - the emotes are top notch

#

its a smirk

vivid harness
#

its like full diagonal

dense plover
#

its a bit over the top

vivid harness
#

yeah

dense plover
#

but it looks better when you can rotate the model

vivid harness
#

the hand animation is top notch though

uncut lintel
#

uh anyone else DCing in ptr nonstop

dense plover
#

nope

uncut lintel
#

alot of people just did and idk if everyone did again

#

hmmmm

terse patrol
#

My hope is Steamwheedle installs a new leader of Ratchet. @uncut vault

#

If not, big eye rolls.

dense plover
#

flex emote

wise crest
#

i mean

#

removing gallywix is hardly a loss

noble patrol
#

So robotic

terse patrol
#

Yes.

wise crest
#

and why would ratchet install a new leader

#

Gazlowe owns ratchet

vivid harness
#

gallywix is the best character in the game

#

/s

wise crest
#

if gazlowes allegiances change, so would ratchets

terse patrol
#

But, Trade Prince Steamwheedle will not allow Ratchet to go Horde.

wise crest
#

future conflict honk

#

future conflict

#

Gazlowe will outspend everyone

#

he will subsume aall the cartels

terse patrol
#

ehhhh

wise crest
#

He will become

#

the Omega Prince

#

THE TRADE KING

tropic trail
#

i hate Gallywix

terse patrol
#

I'd rather they keep the Cartels separate. And introduce new Trade Princes/Princesses.

#

There's three unnamed Cartels. Two unnamed Trade Princes/Princesses.

wise crest
#

im just so happy

#

we cleared out the nasty fucks

#

and finally got good rep

#

Gazlowe is a great goblin to be trade prince

vivid harness
#

THE TRADE EMPEROR

wise crest
#

So the Horde council is looking gr8

tropic trail
#

who is on the council?

wise crest
#

Thrall for Orcs
Rokhan for Trolls
Baine for Tauren
Gazlowe for Goblins
Lilian for Forsaken
Lor'themar for Belves
Ji for Pandaren

#

Lilian seems to be temporary atm

tropic trail
#

she is probably temporary

wise crest
#

she seems to be wanting to make Calia that spot but atm Lilian holds it because theres no one else

vivid harness
#

calia for forsaken when 😠

tropic trail
#

maybe next xpac

wise crest
#

Hopefully never but sadly theyre probs gonna put her in charge

#

I'd rather they kept Lilian.

vivid harness
#

lilian should've been neutral imo

#

The alliance help her kill gandling after all

tulip sun
#

I assume ARs represent their peoples as wlel

wise crest
#

I dunno, I think it's nice to see her find kinship in people like her.

tulip sun
#

well

wise crest
#

Yeah

#

She suffered the worst kind of rejection from her friends and family.

#

It's nice to see her use that trauma to become a positive force in the forsakens lives.

vivid harness
#

eh i guess

wise crest
#

It's what quite a lot of minorities do at times.

#

Experience discrimination and trauma

#

And then turn that into healing by helping people in similar situations

zealous basalt
#

"No, $p. Not the keep. That is one vision I would rather not see."

#

That explains why we cant go to the keep

#

duh

#

my head is playing with me

#

Weird

#

as a mechagnome alliance factions dont show

dense plover
#

yeah they broke something

zealous basalt
#

Uh also for the cloak

dense plover
#

what about the cloak?

zealous basalt
#

level is fixed at 455

dense plover
#

get a new one

zealous basalt
#

doesnt go up

#

did

dense plover
#

oh wait

#

what level is yours?

zealous basalt
#

Rank 12 -445

dense plover
#

yeah its bugged

zealous basalt
#

30% sanity

dense plover
#

it only goes up on the 5s

#

so 5, 10, and 15

zealous basalt
#

already sent the ticket

dense plover
#

everything inbetween has default stats

#

set yours to 15

#

itll work out

zealous basalt
#

Oh

#

its a tooltip bug

#

...what the fuck

#

475?

#

thats mythic level

#

Talent tree of mother changed

#

also i can confirm that the value of new flasks of visions reset daily

#

...god damn it these jokes go worse and worse with every race

#

"I used to be here, but now i am...mecha-gone"

plain meteor
#

it looks like the cloak downgrades inbetween the major upgrades at 5,10,15

zealous basalt
#

I think it simply doesnt register it until its at max

plain meteor
#

maybe its different for everyone then, as it showed 445,455,465,and 475 at different levels

zealous basalt
#

Its going to be weird if they implement a new dk intro this far

tropic trail
#

its probably a bug @plain meteor

zealous basalt
#

in the patch*

zealous basalt
#

Shouldn't

#

mechagnomes be able to imitate all clases?

forest sphinx
#

Even more broadcast text

night swift
#

Lol mechagnome dh

dense plover
#

"Shadowy Gem
Item Level 1
Binds to Battle.net account
"Obtained through the Blackrock Depths Pet Challenge. Speak with Burt Macklyn near the entrance of Blackrock Depths in Blackrock Mountain to exchange these.""

#

XD

tropic trail
#

Wait, more DK-able races? Why am I expecting that if this ever happens, the whole Argent Dawn EU server will roll a velf DK to be extra edgy?

night swift
#

Idk, lightforged draenei dk sounds edgier

#

And its gonna happen, people have wanted AR dks since they were announced

tropic trail
#

BLESSED BY THE LIGHT. IN DETH.

#

I'd hard reference Krog from Thor Ragnarok as a LF DK

#

Korg*

#

Saying stuff like "Hey man. We're gonna get on that gianormous Ebon Hold and get outta here. Wanna come?"

night swift
#

What I wanna know if will they be eligible for heritage armor or not

#

Since they start at a higher level

terse patrol
#

velf dk

#

Weak

#

Give me Dark Iron DKs with blue fire beards.

tropic trail
#

YES. YES.

terse patrol
#

If Blizzard doesnt do that

tropic trail
#

I agree completely

terse patrol
#

I’ll throw chairs

night swift
#

Virgin velf dk vs chad zandalari dk

tropic trail
#

JHock. That comment made me proud

terse patrol
#

Like, that’d be the dumbest thing if they dont do that lol

tropic trail
#

Yeah Lich Fire beard is obvious!

night swift
#

The textures they datamined didnt show the fire particle

#

Theres hope

terse patrol
#

Well those are initiates

#

DK initiates don’t have blue eyes

#

Even in game currently

tropic trail
#

They have emo makeup

night swift
#

Oh wait yeah they have the ebon blade tabards

terse patrol
#

They only get their eyes when they rise above initiate.

tropic trail
#

Aka they ded and ressed

night swift
#

I’m gonna make so many AR dks though

terse patrol
#

Mechagnome DK

night swift
#

DK and Monk are my favorite classes

tropic trail
#

Unsure if the initiatea are dead

terse patrol
#

Rune Chainsword

tropic trail
#

Initiates* what's wrong with me?

terse patrol
#

Plague filled spray guns in their arms.

tropic trail
#

UNHOLY POISON NEEDLE LIKE THE BOSS IN NAXX

terse patrol
#

Lightforged DK is ThinkingBTTV

#

They’d need to make a special skin for them

#

With their skin cracking with light coming from the cracks

tropic trail
#

I think Lightforged will either make OP death knights or won't be able to be

night swift
#

Hey this also might be their excuse on giving them more customization choices too

#

Since people want more face options for them too

terse patrol
#

Kul Tiran DK

night swift
#

Hell yes

terse patrol
#

Giant death knight

night swift
#

Instant race change

tropic trail
#

"A strong paladin makes a stronger death knight"

terse patrol
#

Reminder that Kul Tiran’s punch racial is an All Might reference.

tropic trail
#

The belf NPC you quest through Eastern Plaguelands with says that

night swift
#

Lol

tropic trail
#

Therenar Sunstriker

terse patrol
#

Your fist steams when they wind up to punch

#

Like All Might

tropic trail
#

PLUS... ULTRAAAA

terse patrol
night swift
#

I guess we know blizz may not add anymore ARs this xpac since the datamines only show current ARs

tropic trail
#

Vulpera DK spoiler alert?

terse patrol
#

i wish kul tirans weren’t fat so i could RP All Might lol

tropic trail
#

Where's the ohgodplsno's at?

night swift
#

They muscle fat

#

Lyo

#

We also have panda dks

tropic trail
#

NOOOOE

#

As a monk main, that makes me unhappy

night swift
#

Those were inevitable

tropic trail
#

I really think Chi is the purest life form on Azeroth

night swift
#

As a monk main zandalari monks made me mad

tropic trail
#

It's channeled spirit energy

night swift
#

Well we know panda dks can happen cause of wod

tropic trail
#

Hahahaha... wah?

night swift
#

Theres a pandaren dk garrison follower

tropic trail
#

O_O

night swift
#

She washed up dead on the shores of northrend

#

And arthas rezzed her

tropic trail
#

Must've walked the Eastern Kingdoms by the time Chen did

night swift
#

And blizz has stated that they can be dks, but it’d be very rare

#

But maybe not anymore since they’re on the mainlands

tropic trail
#

I would like it if Blizz made it so quest givers could adress us by our chosen titles

#

I wanna be called Brawler in questing

night swift
#

Brewmaster pls

tropic trail
#

Cool idea ain't it?

night swift
#

Yes but that would require going back and changing thousands of npc dialogue

tropic trail
#

Not. They could just say hero in voice acting as per usual, and have the title in the chatbox

night swift
#

Wait do you mean in voiced quests? Or all quests

#

Cause even then just voiced quests is still a lot

tropic trail
#

I guess all quests? But with no voice over for titles. Just use hero. Having your title actually have an effect would be so much cooler than just: this is your title. It's displayed in front of your character name. That's the title. Yup.

night swift
#

Yes but if they did that they would still have to spend a lot of time going back to all the quest npc’s dialogue and change them to include your title

tropic trail
#

Yeah, I guess

night swift
#

And also idk they even have a way for the game to detect that so they’d also have to make it to where the game can read that

tropic trail
#

It's a pity, really

dense plover
#

its not feasible

#

like - theres so many titles

#

hero and champion are accurate

#

theyve occasionally done class or race

#

those often catch me off guard

tropic trail
#

I liked in Legion when I was called Grandmaster

uncut vault
#

probabvly just dont want to have everyone record 12 lines like Khadgar had to

tropic trail
#

Khadgar always sounded so cheerful during Legion questing

#

Even when he wasn't

#

Doubt he'll return till Battle of Warlords of the Mists of Burning Cataclysm

#

Or maybe later

night swift
#

I feel like khadgar might come back

#

We did have him show up for two xpacs in a row

tropic trail
#

He sounds very similar to Ghuun

#

In some instances

#

This also sounds like we won't be killing Nzoth

uncut vault
#

we are, just probably not entirely

#

as a threat on azeroth with a full army, he seems to be done after BfA

tropic trail
#

I think we just weaken him enough to put him under a dormant state again

#

Killing an old god would wound and maybe even kill Azeroth. Just look what happened with Y'shaarj

uncut vault
#

ripping an old god out does that

#

the titans just had no other choice

#

we're the medium between titanforged only being able to imprison adn ripping out by a titan

storm marsh
#

So about this convo between jaina and anduin, I don't understand why would they let us know Nzoth is defeated... Maybe that's a fake text to trick us with real encrypted dialog.

wise crest
#

Nah.

#

They let us know we beat Argus too.

#

They always get careless about end raid results.

#

Their big shock for this expansion was Saurfang dying

#

There's also conversations between Turalyon and Alleria about Nzoth losing.

sonic urchin
#

Killing Argus was more understandable though, he wasn't exactly a major plot character for very long. He was just a retconned titan

wise crest
#

The thing is

#

Alleria implies Nzoth dyinf

#

Has made the void far more active

#

She mentions there being far more voices now that he's gone and it's unnerving

tropic trail
#

N'zoth was probably holding back a lesser god?

#

Or maybe... his death called a void lord?

#

Would've been fun to understand the old god language when you have the eye of N'zoth

austere gazelle
#

Or maybe the old gods are avatar of void lords

#

and once they are dead they go back to the whispers

tropic trail
#

Old gods are the children of void lords

sullen dawn
#

That's what were currently led to believe anyway

#

We know very little about the void lords

#

I hope they look like this in their true form

chrome void
#

Man the assault on org part of the war campaign is a serious tear jerker

#

Also, does anything happen after the war campaign?? Just finished it and that seems to be everything.

#

Nvm I see a new quest in zandalar

storm marsh
#

Only Calia quest I think

chrome void
#

Calia?

limber mural
#

menethil.

tropic trail
#

Arthas' sister

chrome void
#

Oh

limber mural
#

I only hope Li Li Stormstout gets a new model this time around... isn't she like a year younger than Anduin or so? generic kid panda will be weird

#

And I mean, Nomi aged visually

tropic trail
#

I think she will get a normal female pandaren model, but slightly smaller

#

Think a Darkmoon Faire potion

limber mural
#

maybe, yeah

#

i'm just hoping they do something

tropic trail
#

Imo the pandaren females have the best /giggle in the game

limber mural
#

it's very anime

tropic trail
#

That's why I like it

#

Your game either dies early or lives long enough to become anime

tropic trail
#

then let it die

tropic trail
#

Wow. The tilt

tropic trail
#

N'zoth is not the last, but the first. His defeat incenses the Void Lords and the two remaining old gods. Boom, expac.

flint meteor
#

im sure that quote bout the not the last but the first is actually azeroth

#

being the 1st titan actually

storm marsh
#

Li Li is returning?

terse patrol
#

When did Nzoth become a she?

#

“She is not the last, but the first.”

#

Pretty sure that’s Calia.

flint meteor
#

the heck didnt we kill wrathion

pulsar iris
#

no

#

we beat him back to his senses

flint meteor
#

dats good