neat
#beta-ptr-spoilers
stiff vector
maybe he's under the orange thing 🤔
bottom left and top right have some of the blue from the nzoth map
forest sphinx
Is WoW Tools a dataminjng website?
stiff vector
no easy way no i think
forest sphinx
Cool. Thank you. I’ve been learning a lot lately.
dense plover
damn
i wish there was a way like the texture tool you have
where you can see red in the areas that changed
well this is interesting
stiff vector
yeah
dense plover
boralus map has suramar
stiff vector
one of those things isnt boralus :v
dense plover
wonder if we will be revisiting the nightwell
and this explains the broken kunlai lake
the zone messes up the areas around it
this map is useful tho
stiff vector
classic schwayder
dense plover
great look at design version of naz
this is naz before they actually went in on the zone
stiff vector
that map is fun
dense plover
yeah
dense plover
yeah
stiff vector
so modelviewer doesn't know there's terrain, bugfix for that inc soonish
forest sphinx
I’m going to check the site out when the house empties
dense plover
this is what i took a pic of yesterday with the tentacles
this
those are the same thing
one from ingame from the seven shrines area
one from the dev map
provides a sense of scale
they move around too
its pretty sick
stiff vector
yeah those orthographic maps dont do them justice
actually
how do they move around
that would mean they're M2s
but those wouldnt be on map 🤔
stiff vector
something to investigate later
dense plover
new uldum fucked that up as well
on ptr, you cant fly over ahnqiraj, and the floor is gone
new uldum fucked it
stiff vector
a timeless terrain phasing classic
dense plover
might be that some tentacles dont move
and some do marl
noticing more tentacles in game than on map
zealous basalt
stiff vector
thats a yikes from me
dense plover
?
hasty elbow
Is this mogu cannon newly added to ptr or did it already existed since MoP? I wonder if they added some new Mogu objects since I don't remember seeing this during MoP.
dense plover
we might see 8.3 before the anniversary event
zealous basalt
so everytime i load WoW
tulip sun
A new friendly mogu group is interesting
dense plover
theres been a bunch of changes to the classic alterac
zealous basalt
3d assets doesnt load
dense plover
that might be why it was removed from the calendar
we might see a fuck ton of builds before blizzcon
hasty elbow
if Mogu will be ARs, they better update the Mogu character model....
dense plover
I doubt they will
forest sphinx
I believe that’s to help compensate for the heart increase
tropic trail
does anyone know if vulpera are going to be able to play monk
They are
oh thank god
Asking cause goblins can't and they use the same skeleton?
storm marsh
Somebody said new allied races look good 😂
tropic trail
yeah that’s what I was worried about
I didn’t know if they had monk animations but luckily they do
Worgen do too
And they can't be monks
it is kind of weird. I really am glad vulpera can play monk though cause I am going to use the roll skill like my life depends on it
N’Zoth is gonna feel smug until he sees me rolling downhill towards him at the speed of light
Fun interaction: rolling off cliffs/elevated places acts like a superjump
Even if you fall off a platform and roll before reaching the ground, as long as there's a second platform, you superjump
that would be cool
Roll = increase movement speed for a short period of time while locking the player in a player determined motion
i am kind of curious about how they're going to fit the tail on gear for vulpera. like besides pandaren females who have like a tiny raccoon tail for some fur colors (for whatever reasons) vulpera are the first race i think with like a defined tail
So it interacts weirdly with map geometry
Draenei males.
o shit didnt think of that
tropic trail
No Ron
Go find Becky
i really wonder if bliz is going to bother balancing out the druid classes available in the allied races
because so far horde has two and alliance has one
tropic trail
and im sure as shit that mechagnomes cant be druids
They can
SIKE
are you-
oh thank god
My reaction to the patch
limber mural
I'm hoping for tinkers now but I'll be conflicted if they happen
tropic trail
if i saw some kind of robot cyborg cat charging through dreamgrove i'd just think
limber mural
Cause my main is and always will be a hunter but I love the engineering aesthetic
tropic trail
ysera didnt die for this shit
limber mural
So while I wouldn't want to reroll my main I'd have to secondary
however, regardless of what it is, if the next class added doesn't wear mail I'm going to flip my shit
zealous basalt
ditto
tropic trail
i'm druid main though i really like monk as well
Monks are so versatile, I love 'em
Not the hardest class to play either
the roll ability is my favorite skill possibility out of all classes
That would be warlock, imo
I could never play one
tropic trail
i live and breathe feral druid
every druid toon i have is feral though i do play a zandalari balance druid because i really love their moonkin form
strange falcon
i play all 4 specs
tropic trail
I said monks are versatile, not most versatile
strange falcon
living up to the versatility
tropic trail
Druids, monks and pallies are the most versatile anyway
this is old news but i live in constant rage and turmoil that i could not get through the guardian druid mage tower back in legion
i missed a really cool bear form appearance
zealous basalt
hey i have a question
tropic trail
Too many Khadgars, my friend
i did get feral mage tower though but that wasn't all that difficult
zealous basalt
do these kind of patches with included raids always had the dialogue of what happens after the raid itself?
tropic trail
Do you call a buff Khadgar, Chadgar?
The next Alliance race will be both a paladin and druid race
tropic trail
@zealous basalt What races make up the Uldum Accord and Rajani?
zealous basalt
The uldum are those bird centaur things and the rajani are mogu
tropic trail
Tolvir and Mogu/Pandas right?
zealous basalt
ye
tropic trail
Huh
Well. I think the Mogu are far more Horde inclined
So, once again. Narrowing down the ARs to Jinyu and Sethrak
jinyu druids would be cool i'd love to play as some kind of aquatic/fish-themed feral druid
tropic trail
Sethrak druids?
Or just the snakes?
they already have aquatic-themed mounts in nazjatar that use the cat skeleton and those look awesome so
they would make awesome druid forms
slow forum
hey did you see we get to serve nzoth?
In the new pvp faction
Uhh like that harpy faction from legion
strange falcon
just the snakes
tropic trail
I'd be happy with both
strange falcon
thought one of the adventure playable characters
is a sethrak shaman
vessina
it's called
tropic trail
Yeah from Dalaran Heist
Before I quit that awful game
if we do get sethrak im going to name my character a boring human name but lay down on s
for example ssssteven
ssssstanley
sssssseth
I have Taahm and Keentch reserved for Jinyu
slow forum
All hail nzoth
zealous basalt
how do you hail nzoth
slow forum
to get into a free for all with even your own faction
tropic trail
i dont even remember what nzoth is supposed to look like isnt he a giant octopus or something
is he even a visible entity
tropic trail
all hail the Giant Octopus
strange falcon
there is a datamined model
and bellular has it
in the thumbnail
for latest vid
tropic trail
Yeah
Its his hearthstone design
man fuck anduin, fuck sylvanas or whoever, i'm gonna declare loyalty to the GIANT PURPLE OCTOPUS
And in the next expac
You can do it to Yogg and Cthun
i wonder if this new nzoth faction or whatever will have a capital city
can we call it tentacle town
zealous basalt
I WONDER
tropic trail
nzoth faction guild name idea: tentacle town
zealous basalt
HOW TO BECOME A NZOTH SERVANT
zealous basalt
YES
but how do you
get said quest
I have the eye of the fish
do i have to get into warmode
tropic trail
i'm actually really excited for this because characters who are made to be batshit evil can finally get a defined faction for that
tropic trail
'hol up in that screenshot @strange falcon is the character giving the quest supposed to be you?
oh damn thats whack
tropic trail
ooh i see
that wouldve been cool though if like you see yourself as a shadowy void NPC and you give yourself your own quest
"quit your job, join my emo band"
oh god I just read some of this patch text they're really giving up on having a new warchief for the horde
they're just forming some kind of council
tropic trail
man thats cool and all, but now who's gonna going to get to stand in front the big throne in hold at the center of orgrimmar
this is what im really concerned about
strange falcon
all 3 lul
ember tundra
they will replace the big throne by a big table with 3 chairs
zealous basalt
gnomish army
tropic trail
ah cool a void dragon mount
WRATHION FINALLY HAS HIS DRAKE FORM
IM SO PROUD OF YOU SON
zealous basalt
Nzoth assault
zealous basalt
He gets corrupte
zealous basalt
But we save him
tropic trail
now im sad
OH THANK GOD
wrathion is my son i remember when he was an egg in cata and we had to pass him from person to person
zealous basalt
but then he dies
zealous basalt
dies of curiosity because he is confused about humans and relationships
strange falcon
makore's having too much fun
zealous basalt
Man
mechagnomes' arms and legs are too
shiny
Like
compare it with armors at 10
oof crash
zealous basalt
i dont even
zealous basalt
game keeps crashing for me
dense plover
plans seem to be a week
outer shoal
Wait is 8.3 on PTR?
zealous basalt
Ye
languid yoke
yeah I can't do vale anymore either
languid yoke
interesting to have a moving raid entrance
I wonder if it changes where we enter the raid, too
so there's different 1st bosses each week
strange falcon
so everyone has changed their profile icons to vulperas huh? ^
now that they are official
zealous basalt
I remember when
dense plover
weird tenmtacle
languid yoke
changed it to vulpera when 8.0 stuff had them as AR in files, changed it again now because hype
zealous basalt
DON'T GO THERE PEACH
languid yoke
rip peach inc
zealous basalt
THAT WAS WHERE I GOT THE ERROR
languid yoke
yup
dense plover
well
languid yoke
F
dense plover
good thing its a tuesday'
zealous basalt
And you won't be able to play again
dense plover
chances of that bug being fixed are high
languid yoke
you can play on other chars
languid yoke
time to report it tbh
dense plover
it auto reports crashes
forest sphinx
So it's a bug that needs to be fixed
dense plover
theres something fucked in the build file
itll be fixed
its ptr
itll probably be fixed today or tomorrow
they put it out on monday for a reason, they probably plan to pump out builds as fast as possible
didnt crash my computer tho
just gonna wait for next build
languid yoke
yeah I think the computer crash is seperate
because I crashed there 5 times but my PC is fine
dense plover
so, from what I can gather, the mobs in the zone are 20% consistent
languid yoke
friend who I played with too
dense plover
in that during the different invasions some parts of that invasion are there through all of them
also, the location of the invasion is different depending on which one is active
this is likely to help avoid burnout
since the visuals of the different parts are somewhat distinct
along with the mobs and probably structures
languid yoke
i guess uldum is not purple-ish now that N'zoth is gone from there
dense plover
actually, what invasion is in uldum now?
storm marsh
I still cant believe they're releasing the uglier gnomes
dense plover
theres like fire golems and stuff
languid yoke
but not functioning
ionic terrace
Oh huh
languid yoke
because normally when you fly through the raid portal there is an error, there isn't one now
dense plover
ooooo
languid yoke
so it exists and doesn't exist
dense plover
yep, 3 per zone
ionic terrace
Neat
languid yoke
same story progress on both chars so unlikely
ionic terrace
I want a lil’zoth pet
languid yoke
huuuh halls of origination dungeon portal doesn't work
dense plover
during invasion by amathet, the tower and area nearby are active
goal seems to be getting it fully active
also there are WQs they just dont show up on the map or in tracking - they are not fully implemented
nzoth structures did not despawn - probably a bug considering they werent in vale yesterday or even earlier today but now are
rewards MIGHT be based on ilvl
tbh this invasion seems a bit bugged
languid yoke
both invasions are, yeah
dense plover
lots of things that spawned during nzoth invasion arent here
so it seems like the tagging for what does and doesnt spawn is fucked
languid yoke
and in vale the "world quests" worked fine
dense plover
like, all of the nzoth structures are still going on
languid yoke
they were on the minimap and gave the full rewards when compelted
I think it might be intentional
just fun little events you see when you get close
dense plover
and there are no amathet structures
dense plover
yeah these should probably not be here
languid yoke
big floaty platform too
forest sphinx
Is the Auction House still the same?
storm marsh
I can't believe we're getting a void themed patch and Shadow Priest's shadowform is still ugly
uncut shore
https://media.giphy.com/media/QA1OOds4E4NsNCjepU/giphy.gif
Wasn't sure if this was posted or not, but the Guardian Druid Mage tower appearance now has a dance animation
uncut lintel
what dance is that lol
chilly solar
foggy abyss
ionic terrace
👀
tropic trail
Looks like he’s had some sips lol
dense plover
HS isnt canon
zealous basalt
Imagine if it was cannon and it existed in another universe of wow
where instead of raids, they all hangout in the tavern playing hs
dense plover
it does look cool
not disregarding that
just dont want to open the bag of bullshit worms that comes with people being like "LIGHTFORGED BAD GUY EXPANSION NEXT"
ionic terrace
True
zealous basalt
looks around
clears throat
LIGHTFORGED BAD GUY XPAC NEXT
UPDATE
you cant still
get in your character
also
did you guys notice that
there isn't much difference between the facial features of the vulpera male and female
tropic trail
They could change it
There’s more room to be creative since they are animals tbh
When ion was like “no alpaca mount” I felt like someone was gonna snipe him tbh
languid yoke
why be creative
zealous basalt
WHAT THE
languid yoke
makes way more sense that they don't look too different from each other
like animals
tropic trail
What do you mean why? They can make it do the males have a dominant and distend they deauthorize like most animals?
tropic trail
What? Lmfao all male and female animals have differences besides genitals hello?
zealous basalt
dis is what i mean, not much difference between facial faces
tropic trail
Do you know your animals
languid yoke
yes, do you?
dense plover
those are pretty different
languid yoke
that's enough difference
dense plover
look at the eyes
languid yoke
do you want something like worgen?`
where the females look like fucking chihuahuas? (not as bad anymore, still awful)
tropic trail
Oh well I thought he or she meant they looked the same calm your tits.
dense plover
the tufts on the side are different too
languid yoke
🙄
languid yoke
likewise
languid yoke
I assume you're a belf so I sadly cannot stab you, but have vivid dreams about it
tropic trail
No I’m an NE
tropic trail
Who plays a Belf rip
But if I ever went horde I’d have to choose that as a DH 
Did they fix the mount animation for their little hyena
sudden oak
zealous basalt
dab
languid yoke
why play a fantasy race in a fantasy game when you can be human and human elf pog
sullen dawn
The best thing about vulpera is that I can gank them in pvp
night swift
Its one that you upgrade
tropic trail
So it's just different recolors?
tropic trail
Ah okay.
languid yoke
ptr borked? Can't get in
dry plinth
anyone else crashing instantly in the vale?
languid yoke
ye
dry plinth
any updates to triggering the sliver of nzoth? Killed tons of players last night, no dice
wild sluice
My edit.
agile token
Looks good
whole cedar
has anyone figured out how to do the questline to unlock vulpera/mechagnome? have all requirements but can't see to do them
yeah I know you can just create a character but I want to see the questlines
zealous basalt
what if they aren't implemented yet?
languid yoke
is the questline even in? It's listed as "coming soon"
whole cedar
yeah that's what i'm thinking as well
zealous basalt
Because you can easily grind through horrific visions
If you didn't notice
The "currency" needed is up all the time
The only thing that changes is the location
Other than that the invasions are up undefinitely
Not really
You get currency from killing things, looting chests
Enough to make one?
It's the same thing of the mage tower
I suppose 10 from a kill and 50 from a chest normally
I suppose yes, yesterday I got into Uldum's invasion and got enough for one vessel
at the original price that is
I aoe, what's the point
yes
yes
I'd say every 2 kills with luck
It's as easy as the mage tower challenge again
that's enough for 2 tries
solo at least
tropic trail
Honestly sounds fun
zealous basalt
We aren't counting that you can team up with people
tropic trail
If they don’t gate it some how you’re going to finish everything
zealous basalt
"We aren't counting that you can team up with people"
Like
what is the complain here?
I mean, you can complete it in one try if you are lucky
tropic trail
You wanna complete it the day it comes out👀
zealous basalt
It's impossible
Eh
no
watch it again
Ion expects us losing a lot at the first attemps
tropic trail
They want you to work towards completing it to have fun lol
zealous basalt
Ye
Which is why most of the console upgrades are descending sanity lost
and increasing sanity
like the mage tower?
tropic trail
That’s the best part you’re working to try your best
tropic trail
Make tower if you failed you kept working to kill the stupid boss. I mean mage tower was once a week >_> that counts rng lol
zealous basalt
You are comparing a raid, something that is necessary to progress
To a side-thing like the visions
tropic trail
No
zealous basalt
Heck atm we don't know the rewards of a full complete vision
No
you don't
You only get orbs
and so far I don't know what to do with them
tropic trail
It would be cool to get cosmetics tho
unborn glacier
As a Mythic raider, Horrifying Vision should be in no way comparable raiding.
zealous basalt
They are different
tropic trail
There’s progression if you are prepared to do the work
tropic trail
Like if you suck at this game yeah it’s gonna be a hard time
tropic trail
Starting the visions people should be 430-440 anyways
dry plinth
anyone know how to get rid of the Vale crash?
unborn glacier
The highest item level gear should always be tied to the hardest level of content. Mythic raiding should always provide the highest level gear.
unborn glacier
The Visions reward catch up gear
tropic trail
Lol
tropic trail
Honestly they should get rid of any catch up gear
tropic trail
Make people work for their loot 👀
unborn glacier
It doesn't reward the gear itself rewards the items that you use the trade-in for the gear
zealous basalt
ye ik
languid yoke
the orbs can be traded in for wrists, gloves, pants and uuuuuuuuuuuuh shoes
zealous basalt
but is still a bad idea
tropic trail
Yeah idk why they need a catch up thing
zealous basalt
No no
the catch up thing is nice
but why tie it to a hard content like Visions?
be silent
we are tallking about something more important
tropic trail
Well it’s not going to be hard
zealous basalt
It is...
languid yoke
they are completely different types of content you fool lmao
zealous basalt
I have answered a ton you fool
Different content, different rewards and most important, diferent crowd aim
tropic trail
It’s going to be like difficult for the first few attempts. ONCE you unlock progression check points it gets easier
tropic trail
Why are you so worried about this
zealous basalt
It's normal
tropic trail
Catch up gear is for people who haven’t played in a year or 2
tropic trail
It could change tho
tropic trail
They could make it 430 gear tbh
tropic trail
You do visions my guy for the lore
tropic trail
Like that’s exactly what it’s for lore, and legendary cloak
unborn glacier
From what I can tell bellular has said that the gear that you can get from trading in for the Visions gear is 420
zealous basalt
nothing?
tropic trail
Lore
tropic trail
It’s all lore and legendary cloak to take into the new raid
tropic trail
Like did you not watch the video
zealous basalt
Due the sanity buff
tropic trail
tropic trail
“It might be useful in fighting Nzoth”
unborn glacier
The Visions feed into the lure of the patch and the greater expansion of itself plus you'll probably be able to trade the stuff in for toys and possibly mounts we don't know but also catch up gear
tropic trail
It’s going to be 100% a must for that raid bet
unborn glacier
Probably the best way to explain the Visions is probably like soloing LFR
tropic trail
The only reason to do visions is to progress to the point where you can MOST LIKELY unlock the legendary cloak and lore
languid yoke
yeah and so are essences
zealous basalt
So with one of the flask
languid yoke
no?
tropic trail
No you get them from the new raids and chests I thought
languid yoke
boohoo
zealous basalt
Did you got feed sand when you were little or what
tropic trail
Go watch the video if you wanna get some info man
zealous basalt
...irony
languid yoke
tropic trail
zealous basalt
in its most pure expression
tropic trail
Why is this toxic lad still here
languid yoke
(y e s)
zealous basalt
Imagine trying to come here complaining about "timegating" on something that doesn't have a timegate per say
Then someone comes in and try to get into the argument
languid yoke
can you quote the name I called you?
languid yoke
it's not a timegate, it's a different type of content
it's a single player orientated progression system like the chromie scenario and withered scenario, latter of which WAS time gated
tropic trail
A time gate MEANS you can not do it after you’ve done it for a week.
You can grind out the tokens
languid yoke
time gate is broken isles.
zealous basalt
You can make a extreme grind of it with a team work
tropic trail
Please use big brain
zealous basalt
It's not timegating
It's just extremely grindy
Like the rest of the game
Time gate is, in short words, having to wait to a certain date to progress
tropic trail
I mean you can get the moderator, we were just telling you what was right and you’re telling people to fuck off. Seems a bit much. It’s not an argument but a discussion.
tropic trail
This is a discussion of PTR. If you’re info is wrong and the people who are PLAYING PTR know. I just don’t see the issue here. You should t tell people to fuck off. Like.
zealous basalt
because you can't understand what is the point we are trying to explain here
languid yoke
what does "fuck off" have to do with ptr?
rotund sorrel
okay okay okay
all of you stop.
@green laurel you need to be more respectful.
language.
You can read over your own comments 🙂
Really? Do you need to be spoonfed?
How about
you relax
so I can actually read everything
You guys are literally arguing over something that isn't even live yet. Speculate but do so respectfully. I see anyone getting told to "fuck off" again or any other disrespectful language, I won't hesitate to warn you guys.
No.
tropic trail
Alright so anyways for anyone who has played ptr did they implement the cloak yet?
zealous basalt
I can tell you that it sucks
languid yoke
the cloak is in but broken kinda
rotund sorrel
How about, you read what I said above about being respectful for the rest of this conversation?
forest sphinx
Everyone needs to calm down. And yes the cloak is in.
languid yoke
the ilvl goes down once you upgrade it atm
tropic trail
Aww
forest sphinx
I'm here if you need me Onyx.
rotund sorrel
dw, he's gone.
languid yoke
well yeah, it is
tropic trail
I’ve been meaning to get on and test out the visions lol I seen some really funny pictures yesterday about the bugs
forest sphinx
Looks like it
zealous basalt
Praise the lord
tranquil steeple
all his messages poof'd
languid yoke
only temporarily
tropic trail
zealous basalt
That person was making me go crazy
forest sphinx
I understand but everyone just needs to remain respectful. It's all opinion based ideas from the PTR
tranquil steeple
anyways tho no need to stay on that topic after it's been dealt with
forest sphinx
No one is stupid or dumb for thinking one way or the other 😃
zealous basalt
He has to understand we don't know anything rather than WoWhead or what the game offers atm
forest sphinx
Correct
zealous basalt
We literally don't know if visions will have a impact outside ketchup gear
forest sphinx
Only time will tell
zealous basalt
...I don't know if there is an extra thing in the end of the visions
rotund sorrel
If you guys want to continue the conversation, feel free to do so. Just make sure that you all understand that nothing is solidified as it's PTR. You guys can debate while being respectful. 🤷
languid yoke
well, so far it seems like it has the only cloak outside of m+
rotund sorrel
If he comes back, holler.
zealous basalt
Onyx
tropic trail
I wonder if the cloak will be good for all content tho
languid yoke
but that's the only use I can see visions have
forest sphinx
We will letcha know sir. Thank you for helping @rotund sorrel
zealous basalt
do you know if the wowhead staff have made a full clear of the visions?
tropic trail
Or will you need to have 1 for mythic + and 1 for raiding
forest sphinx
I haven't talked to anyone that has but I can find out @zealous basalt
tropic trail
thank you onyx. on another note, drake form wrathion looks like a cutie with his horn rings
languid yoke
I got 4/5 today 
zealous basalt
I don't think it will be useful for m+ either
Because
It has all the stats minus versatility
tropic trail
The rings are awful but funny
languid yoke
some rings are good in some situations
zealous basalt
...I have a question about the rings
zealous basalt
Can you explain me if
languid yoke
vers sucks bye thanks for coming to my TED talk
tropic trail
Wow I play DH Wymm
tropic trail
i think they're kinda cute. most dragons in their dragon form really really over accessorize on their horns and features but wrathion just has two little rings on his horns and that's enough for him
zealous basalt
Is it that way because they are disabled?
languid yoke
no
tranquil steeple
no
languid yoke
it's to signify the bad side effects
tropic trail
No ^
tranquil steeple
it's just the negative effect of the ring
languid yoke
I tested two of the rings today
zealous basalt
that explains why I keep getting my ass handed
tranquil steeple
vs the positive effect of the 2% damage/healing
languid yoke
I felt awful and entertained at the same time
zealous basalt
Methinks
tropic trail
It’s like green is “you can win a million” and red is “but you can’t walk for the rest of your life” lol
languid yoke
especially the grasping tentacle one was a lot of fun
zealous basalt
It should have more power
zealous basalt
than just only 2%
tropic trail
oh man we're gonna be getting tentacle grabbed?
zealous basalt
Ye
tropic trail
thats exciting
zealous basalt
There is another one that makes a copy of you
languid yoke
for high-end raiders it could skew the race horribly in one guild's favor if they get lucky ring drops
zealous basalt
And if you don't look at it
languid yoke
like some rings don't impact bosses much, if at all
zealous basalt
You get feared
tranquil steeple
gimme that free 2% healing
tropic trail
What if you go into the other world in mythic +... and the tent pulls you back out
zealous basalt
imagine if
tropic trail
Rip
languid yoke
2% would be like a 1k dps increase atm, it's a decent bit
languid yoke
yeah the heal ring is iffy
tranquil steeple
well the overheal ring is
tropic trail
Imagine “ you get 10% more healing but you can’t interrupt casts”
zealous basalt
OH GOD
tranquil steeple
just when the wielder of the ring gets overhealed
tropic trail
zealous basalt
wait
tropic trail
zealous basalt
that's just LFG Dungeons
languid yoke
but then again the overheal debuff only stays for 10 seconds and if you don't take damage, it's not awful
tranquil steeple
and then again
languid yoke
then again you will take damage, and the healers will hate you
zealous basalt
No one interupts in LFG dungeons
tranquil steeple
DHs
tropic trail
LMFAO
languid yoke
but like the aoe taunt ring? No impact at all in pvp
the focus target ring? No impact in patchwerk fights
tropic trail
“You can reset you’re interrupt but you lose 15% damage for the remaining CD”
Omg
No
Your*
languid yoke
and if they gave more than 2% damage increase, it could become ridiculous
tropic trail
tranquil steeple
ehhh
languid yoke
so I can see why they want to be careful with it
tranquil steeple
technically as cloth
languid yoke
blizz might still scale the rings up or down
tranquil steeple
you can get something to reduce interrupt cd on-use
if the interrupt was one of the recently cast spells
but you lose out on secondary stats from the item
languid yoke
mechagon wrists ho
tropic trail
This shit better not be bis for me cuz I refuse
zealous basalt
Its not for monks
tranquil steeple
(I'm talking about the Cloth Bracers from OP: Mechagon)
tropic trail
I will be the worst player
tranquil steeple
yea Nwolf knows
languid yoke
the killing blow rings (there's two) aren't that impactful for raids either
except for add spam bosses
languid yoke
nah
tropic trail
what does the vulpera character select BG look like?
languid yoke
it's either a 6 second root or a tentacle that grips you after 5 seconds
zealous basalt
HOPE
tranquil steeple
as a healer I could also grab the Mesmerizing ring
tropic trail
ah I see
zealous basalt
FUCK
languid yoke
F
tropic trail
Why can’t you login
zealous basalt
worst of all
I know what fucked us up
You went to that part with the glowing tentacle, right?=
zealous basalt
And then "oof"
calm garden
i wander why n'zoth is going after the forges tho
tropic trail
I mean I was kinda sad because I wanted to wait another expac to fight him
zealous basalt
Crap I need to buy
The essencse again
So, with the heroic test...are we going to be able to buy new gear?
Because I don't think my poor 425 gear will be good
tropic trail
Also I hopped people saved gear to replace benthic gear
Lmfao
That 425 ain’t gonna do nothing in the new raid
zealous basalt
languid yoke
it's ok my vulpera is neutral with orgrimmar and if I turn pvp on I can attack the guards
try that
turn on pvp and attack him
zealous basalt
nope
languid yoke
sad.
tropic trail
He probably works for Nzoth
languid yoke
for all we know he's one of the guys I killed in the vision of stormwind today
tropic trail
Isn’t Shaw one? I thought I saw him in a vision screenshot
zealous basalt
Oh ye
tropic trail
Nice I hope Anduin is one
forest sphinx
So to answer your question @zealous basalt, from the guide writer I'm talking to, no one has cleared the visions yet.
zealous basalt
Oh damn it
I don't blame it
There are two areas that are very hard
mage quarter and old town+
Okay so
Anyone in Alliance
Wants to do a clear?
...actually im neutral with everyone
dense plover
you definitely need a group
dense plover
i cant load my character either
im waiting on purpose to see if it gets fixed
nyalotha raid skybox
forest sphinx
Where's that from? The raid right?
dense plover
yes, its the skybox
forest sphinx
Damn. That looks so good.
dense plover
yeah
languid yoke
just before you try to clear it, make sure you upgrade the cloak to the end and buy a new one to have the ilvl and also the 75% less sanity drain
tropic trail
Is that Nzoths tent?
languid yoke
I didn't know the last part and caused me and my partner to lose the vision, we probably could'Ve cleared it
calm garden
i assume it is
zealous basalt
nope
dense plover
yeah, the ilvl is bugged
dense plover
it says 430, then drops to 402 on first upgrade
languid yoke
xd
zealous basalt
When I put the maxed out it goes back to 5% on the maxed
zealous basalt