Because Light in that amount
#beta-ptr-spoilers
zealous basalt
tranquil steeple
"Join the light... or die, scum."
zealous basalt
is ass bad as this
tranquil steeple
in short
tropic trail
Imagine if they did capture The Banshee Queen... and put her on trial imagine the shit she would say lmfao
zealous basalt
Sel
tropic trail
Ok... but we are talking about orcs here. I don't get why that matters.
zealous basalt
facepalms
tropic trail
I’d probably choke on my food the whole time
tropic trail
Its Iron Horde vs Dranei round 2.
zealous basalt
this is a bless
tropic trail
let them kill each other.
tranquil steeple
ok but would you care if it was the other way around
tropic trail
who cares?
zealous basalt
what are you race changing
unborn glacier
Vulpera?
tranquil steeple
with the mag'har orcs going "convert to shamanism or die" to the AU Draenei?
zealous basalt
I mean technically
Yrel made a big point
Which is why I think Void isn't the only bad thing in WoW
unborn glacier
@pulsar iris Because someone is complaining about the game without knowing anything about it. Its not so much arguing as we are mocking him intellectually.
pulsar iris
i mean we shouldn't
tropic trail
Maghar weren't converting anyone. They were just killing... like the old Horde.
On a plus side maybe if the orcs get light forged maybe they will finally chill out and stop attacking their neighbors.
pulsar iris
i think we should just let it be
night swift
yikes
zealous basalt
Light fanatics?
pulsar iris
yeh
tranquil steeple
but Phea
pulsar iris
light is the next big baddie
tranquil steeple
I'm saying IF Mag'har were converting others
in the same way the AU Draenei were converting others to the light
pulsar iris
stop feeding
tropic trail
Well there has to be some reason behind the conversion. If we did a complete role reversal? Then yeah, that might make sense.
unborn glacier
Plus, Yrel WANTS to attack people... Sooo, your "stop attacking their neighbors" thing, is a moot point
pulsar iris
aight
tranquil steeple
excessively, yes
night swift
yes
tropic trail
why would you leave the orcs be when historically the lore shows us they go all crazy and attack?
seems to me Yrel found a lasting solution.
pulsar iris
the light have found a lasting solution for the whole universe
night swift
by commiting genocide
tranquil steeple
that can also go straight the other way around
pulsar iris
convert or die
night swift
and slating her place as Light Hitler
unborn glacier
No Phea. The Orcs and Draenai lived together peacefully until the legion came and tricked the orcs. lol
tranquil steeple
the mag'har could find perfect peace - if they got rid of the AU Draenei
tropic trail
Yeah. I am not buying the whole orc crocodile tears lol.
unborn glacier
Its teh fucking lore
zealous basalt
Its not like you want to
unborn glacier
omg
zealous basalt
its the lore
night swift
And the draenei went nuts cause the legion left draenor when we beat them
zealous basalt
3/5 bosses done here
indigo laurel
@serene marsh Maybe just as a small addition to the latest news, it is probably a book-end to the beginning of the expansion where they already had a dialogue at the very same place (ingame as well as in the t"Three siststers" comic), with Alleria talking about how she wants to revisit her homeland and reconnect with her sisters. Connecting beginning and end of this storyline a bit.
tropic trail
We only think they went nuts from what Geyarah says.
zealous basalt
almost done
tranquil steeple
the AU draenei essentially took advantage of the dwindled mag'har orc numbers after WoD to force them to either accept the light or die
tropic trail
And this expansion has shown she is a complete hypocrite.
tranquil steeple
also, we WENT TO AU DRAENOR again to recruit the Mag'har
tranquil steeple
we SAW Yrel being all "Join the Light, or be exterminated" (not 100% exactly like that but, in essence)
pulsar iris
NO
tropic trail
@unborn glacier Here me out. Lets say we go to alternative timeline which was BFA and Alliance is attacking UC and all we hear is the Horde outrage at the attack we might sympathize with their side until we hear what the Horde actually did.
We have already seen in BFA the words NPCs relay to us are not exactly wholly accurate.
I mean it’s the first day of the ptr update
zealous basalt
THATS IT WHO IS COMING WITH ME HERE
sullen dawn
The NPCs didn't relay it though we saw it happen
zealous basalt
IM DONE WITH THIS SOLOING STUFF
sullen dawn
We dont call them space nazis for the lols
tropic trail
Alliance has Lightforged. Nothing wrong with them.
night swift
those are different
zealous basalt
Do you just
tropic trail
Orcs got lightforged willingly too
sullen dawn
Light forged arent au dranei
tropic trail
Same process probably.
sullen dawn
At least the ones on alliance arent
night swift
NO
unborn glacier
xDDDDDDDDDDDDD
sullen dawn
Yes but different dranei
zealous basalt
Stop yall here
The difference is
Different mentality
Lightforged are more open
sullen dawn
They're not just going to randomly think the same
zealous basalt
Lightbound are zealots
sullen dawn
They've had complerty different experiences
pulsar iris
look how far we got
let us go back discussing tentacly overlord please
praise nzoth yall
zealous basalt
I am so done with the visions
sullen dawn
That's like saying soldiers are like monks because they both went through the birthing process
zealous basalt
Like
It is like Chromie in terms of gameplay
with the difficulty spike of Mage Tower
pulsar iris
i like chromie gameplay
sullen dawn
That sounds awesome tho!
unborn glacier
Posting this here, cause them being an AR is still spoilers. The mog Ive come up with for when I race change.
zealous basalt
At level 424 I get my ass handed to
I cant pull more than 5 without suffering a cc
pulsar iris
do we get gear at this mode?
zealous basalt
Also the debuffs of each zone is
Just mean
There are two debuffs so far
One makes a projection of yourself
That follows you and if you touch it
tranquil steeple
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Td0pUwrBWjc
Yrel is pretty much the same as Xe'ra in this cinematic, Phea
tropic trail
You guys were talking about genocide a minute ago and now you are arguing that one side is more liberal than the last because they are more extremists.
The orcs didn't appear mindless or enslaved. They even fought alongside the Draenei.
The ones that still fought them where Geyrah's people who promptly joined Sylvanas' horde and we know how morally good those guys were.
Stones and glass houses.
tranquil steeple
"You do what I say, you don't have a choice. Follow the Light."
zealous basalt
It stuns you and it removes 10% of your sanity
THE OTHER DEBUFF IS ASS
It is
In short
A self-mirror
A self-rng-mirror
There is a random chance of you getting the damage you were supposed to deal to the enemy
if that's not shit i don't know what is
zealous basalt
The sanity mechanic works like time limit with the plus that at max perks you have a chance of regaining all of your sanity
pseudo island
why do horde get cute little vulpera and ally get stinky mechagnomes 😦
tropic trail
@tranquil steeple Yeah I don't see what is wrong with putting a leash on the orcs.
Seems like a win win situation
I wonder if it’s a once per day thing because it seems dumb you can grind it al in an hour
the light might make them chill out
Or 4
tropic trail
clearly shamanism didn't workout for Thrall's horde.
zealous basalt
With this kind of difficulty
There is no such thing as grind
In fact
the one grinded will be you
tropic trail
What it was stated you can go in and gain knowledge to fight the corruption
zealous basalt
yes
indigo laurel
I think we could make a meme out of that.
tropic trail
So it should be a daily thing
indigo laurel
"In Voidy Azeroth, instance grinds you."
zealous basalt
and to make a vial
pulsar iris
kek
zealous basalt
you need 1600 thingies
That currently you get from cow vendor
It's not a free instance per say
AND BEWARE OF THE GNOME
unborn glacier
@pseudo island Well, the Alliance attacks the Vulpera, the Horde Befriended and helped them out of slavery.
pseudo island
but mechagnomes are ew
tropic trail
So you can grind it out
tranquil steeple
so you're saying being forced to follow the light or dying is acceptable because they're orcs?
pseudo island
atleast other reskinned models were from different faction, for example Blood Elves -> Void Elves
now we get another gnome race
tropic trail
Ahh ok
zealous basalt
"another"
tropic trail
Mechgnomes are stupid to me but I rather have them then fish ppl tbh
pulsar iris
fish ppl is cool
tropic trail
Idk that Vers one seems sexy
zealous basalt
Hear me out yall
autumn dagger
Alleria's datamined dialogue seems to suggest we beat n'zoth huh
tropic trail
I mean if we beat Nzoth we will likely have a void expansion or a light expansion
stiff vector
how rude
zealous basalt
that refresh if you kill someone with it
and the other one is a mirror ability
And last but not least, a passive that gives you stats if your team activates their essense
so
not good for solo playing
tropic trail
Lmfao there is a ring that will summon a mob to attack you
zealous basalt
I dont even
pulsar iris
oh damn valeera is flirting with shaw?
tropic trail
Also no titan forging for sucky players who get lucky 👀 can’t tell you how many times I’ve ran keys
To get shit
tropic trail
lol
stable ibex
Tfw you don't want your wife in the kitchen but instead in your void dungeon.
tropic trail
I’m spurious though where is Anduin in all this corruption in SW?
pulsar iris
loved the green tint of the cloth lfr one
zealous basalt
i think he is an extra boss
Because
Besides the 5 encounters
you have to find skulls
So
there is it
cloud iron
Titled "Nzoth Map"
pulsar iris
smoll nzoth
cloud iron
What makes this curious, is that this is Nazjatar.
But there is no 8.2 nor 8.2.5 version
Could we be heading back?
pulsar iris
it would make sense
cloud iron
That damn thing looks scary though
ionic terrace
ewww
cloud iron
Im just going through all the maps, to see any potential content thats hidden from us
forest sphinx
First raid test October 11th
zealous basalt
no
cloud iron
I still have high hopes of a before blizzcon release, so they can announce the next raid at Blizzcon
cloud iron
Titled "Visions of N'zoth - Boralus"
cloud iron
New repeatable scenario? - It also features Suramar.
We also have a Stormheim Map exclusive to 8.3, Scenario? Possibly linked to the titan facilities they have there?
zealous basalt
12 nazjatar sized boss
pulsar iris
yes. but this has already been announced
why would they announce it AGAIN at blizzcon?
zealous basalt
no
pulsar iris
I still have high hopes of a before blizzcon release, so they can announce the next raid at Blizzcon
spice said it
zealous basalt
idk i mean
pulsar iris
i hope nyalotha to be the last bfa raid
craggy nexus
I remember so many people saying that 8.3 would never happen.
dense plover
Well shit, Nzoth heart is a mob
craggy nexus
Asmongold and a bunch of others did too. I think T&E said it was possible too.
dense plover
😢
This is the last raid
There are 4 raids per expac
As of Legion that is their design goal
zealous basalt
He is going to eat us
pulsar iris
dont worry peach. we will destroy nzoth but something terrible will happen in the process that lead us into the black empire xpac
dense plover
God I hope we just fail in general
craggy nexus
It would be cool if us killing N'zoth is the bringer of the Black Empire.
dense plover
If we succeed there is just nothing to build on
If we can kill old gods there is no real threat left in azeroth
pulsar iris
only the bad bad light
forest sphinx
I don’t see or think of us killing N’Zoth. I believe we lose
stable ibex
I mean, if leaked broadcast text says that "the old god is dead", he's at least put away for the moment.
cloud iron
I stated I hope the patch goes LIVE before blizzcon, so they can announce the next expac AT blizzcon
zealous basalt
The whispers did not end with his defeat. In fact, it seems new voices have joined the chorus. When I think of the nightmares he forced into my mind...
@dense plover
pulsar iris
you literally said raid. i just copy pasta what you said
stable ibex
Yeah. So, at the very least, my guy is inactive by the end of the raid.
pulsar iris
who says that mak
stable ibex
Alleria.
forest sphinx
I wish I could piece these together better
So after we defeat N’Zoth, we go back after Sylvanas?
forest sphinx
It will most likely be a Gul’Dan situation
zealous basalt
KEK
tropic trail
Before the last shadow falls, the Father of Sleep shall savor his feast.
The golden one claims a vacant throne. The crown of light will bring only darkness.
When their mistress beckons, nine ravens take flight. Each seeks a prize to earn her favor.
The vassal of life disguises treachery. Beware the eyes of green.
Five lanterns, now darkened. The flame they seek will light the masters' way.
The blind queen wields a scepter of bone. From the deep she calls forth doom.
The cunning ones kneel before six masters, but serve only one.
Let's get to brainstorming these whispers
The first one refers to Nzoth I think, given his connection to dreams and the emerald nightmare. He won't die in the raid
signal bone
so what are the rewards for the solo vision stuff?
cloud iron
Father of sleep? Could be a shadowlands character. - Golden one could refer to Odin
tropic trail
"The Golden one claims a vacant throne. The crown of light will bring only darkness."
I think this is referring to Calia who is taking up the empty Throne of Lordaeron, given that she is lightbound
tropic trail
The Throne of Stormwind isn't vacant though?
It's been claimed since Legion, and he didnt have shit to say
dense plover
not sure about the ravens - maybe sylvanas, maybe helya?
tropic trail
Odyn and Anzu are the only ones related to Ravens
cloud iron
Besides, Im pretty sure it has been stated in lore that Lordaeron wont be habitable for a very long time. - So I dont see her 'actually' ruling Lordaeron.
dense plover
yeah neither of which are relevant
tropic trail
That I can think of
dense plover
The vassal of life disguises treachery. Beware the eyes of green.
this one is the weird one
i dont know any "vassal of life"
or anyone with green eyes
dense plover
a vassal is someone who is a slave or works for that person
tropic trail
So here's what I think
signal bone
god the worgen armor is so lame
tropic trail
"Five lanterns, now darkened. The flame they seek will light the masters' way."
We use up the Pillars of Creation. In trying to power them up, we attract the 'master' to us.
Or it could refer to the five old gods
dense plover
time to find out if the eye does anything
tropic trail
There are these quotes from the Yogg box:
The drowned god's heart is black ice.
In the sunken city, he lays dreaming.
signal bone
any idea of what the nzoth mythic mount is? That snake thing maybe?
signal bone
what are you referring to @tropic trail ?
tropic trail
The Aether of the Abyss
calm plank
@dense plover I think there is some stuff you can do in the chamber of the heart
zealous basalt
ye
signal bone
so, how big is nzoth? I saw a giant tentacle in the raid preview
zealous basalt
Just one
terse patrol
Alextrasza is the Aspect of Life, and rules all other dragons.
terse patrol
Keep an eye out if Merithra gets a new model with green eyes.
dense plover
im checking out uldum
zealous basalt
It would mean we are getting ascensions of dragons
terse patrol
Ysera had green eyes, and was beneath Alextrasza. Her daughter should technically have green eyes too, being a green dragon.
signal bone
so the "new" zone content is uldum / vale? They basically get WQ?
dense plover
void stuff and obelisks
some kind of puzzle thing? doesnt seem to be working yet?
yeah, actual quests are spouting lua errors
so definitely bugged
zealous basalt
There is no
dense plover
server is dying
signal bone
do we have weapon models datamined yet?
zealous basalt
void stuff in mop
dense plover
models wont neccesarily get datamined
we will have to look in game
eye twitches and moves
dense plover
copy from live
signal bone
keep going peach
dense plover
tentacle handle pulses and changes size
also all of them have a sha-like shadow effect on part of them, but more subtle
signal bone
are there any unique items like the shoulders from EP?
unborn glacier
Show the heroic and mythic verions
dense plover
this eye blinks
ill show mythic after
still going through list
heroic and mythic are usually just recolors
but ill check
signal bone
well these are mostly disappointing
signal bone
god how did we go from legion to this
dense plover
they look better in game
the eyes all move around and the shadow effect slides down the weapon
it doesnt come through on a static image
also they arent neccesarily finished yet
they all have the PH tag
zealous basalt
Because in legion we didn't have weapons
dense plover
tentacle pulses - its gross
this one wins - tentacles actually squirm around inside it
eye blinks and tentacle squirms
nevermind this one is amazing
tentacles move a bunch
eye blinks
i
tentacle moves a lot
meh wand
giant eye shield
mythic color scheme example
heroic color example
normal color example
as a reminder
raid finder color example
no non-cloak chest version for leather yet - probably planned considering there are 2 chest variants
main difference is in metal and cloth color on weapon between heroic and normal
but also, the eyes are different colors
zealous basalt
Meh
dense plover
normal eyes
dense plover
heroic eyes
caches around the zone have these
these are void tears - if you interact with them, they open a portal which spawns a bunch of guys and then a guardian who hits like a truck - not sure if they are soloable - i died
mini boss
giant floating platform
bad void maw
tagged as monstrous summoning using a golden banner on the minimap
another elite
these exist
big spire is covered in aqir even tho its outside the purple area
many are in ice traps
theyre looking inside for something
im gonna check it out
theyre breeding and tunneling
very bad
weird device
hard to say
also the area for this is a bit buggy
but the aqir are breeding
outside of the assault area is also totally fucked
aqir EVERYWHERE
eggs
so many eggs
dense plover
right now its in both
probably just resets currently
my guess is one of them will be active at all times
tropic trail
but Vale is at like 2 days left?
dense plover
and theyll flip back and forth
tropic trail
^
zealous basalt
Also
zealous basalt
The Coalesing Visions
The requeriment for every flask
I think it increases every timne you use one
tropic trail
no TJ
zealous basalt
Ye
You need it
you knucklehead why didn't you have it from the beggining
go to the chamber of heart
And buy it from the cow
dense plover
flight points are still active btw
zealous basalt
AND
dense plover
so thats good
zealous basalt
boost it 15 times
dense plover
ok
ok
😛
Visions is a weekly quest, and the other is daily
so seems the zone switching will probably be weekly
signal bone
zone stuff is probably a preview of 9.0 world revamp maybe? They don't necessarily have to redo the look of the zones, just add content to them
signal bone
and visions are preview of solo content to be expanded on in 9.0?
tropic trail
which are the world ones
tropic trail
Boralus and which one
dense plover
theres a gate in each of the assaulted zones
tropic trail
Makore wait 14hrs
zealous basalt
no void stuff
tropic trail
i think its meant to have the old god stuff when the raid entrance is on that zone
uncut vault
yes
tropic trail
yes
zealous basalt
huh
uncut vault
its currently in uldum
zealous basalt
das new
tropic trail
oh yeah
uncut vault
I think its more of just a "not-corrupted invasion" vs "corrupted invasion"
tropic trail
oh yeah probably
uncut vault
corrupted pandaria will probably be mantid and aqir
since the world boss is Shekzara
I still find it funny that they put all this work into adding the SoO stuff to the new vale
tropic trail
I’m late but holy shit we’re actually getting vulpera
uncut vault
but forgot to add the raid entrance
uncut vault
horde can still get to goldshire
night swift
horde side goldshire in silvermoon
dense plover
each individual appearance is added to your transmog collection
uncut vault
when youre inside the inn, guards dont attack you unless you're in warmode
dense plover
so when you upgrade, you can always mog to the old look
dense plover
current max rank through heroic cores is rank 15
also i imagine the cloak will have effects added like the MoP cloak
tropic trail
earning the vulpera race will most likely require exalted with Voldunai right?
night swift
yes luke
uncut vault
yeah Id hope this cloak isnt just for the two scenarios
tropic trail
ok that’s good I was worried they’d introduce some new rep and I’d have to go through rep grinding hell again
thank you
zealous basalt
AYSA
tropic trail
man not to toss shade at alliance but they’re really getting the boring allied races
night swift
HOLD THE FUCK UP
tulip sun
Aysa doesn't die, don't worry
tropic trail
I can’t believe we’re fighting N’Zoth this early
night swift
OMG NO
night swift
oh thank god
tropic trail
I’m sure she’s here again
tropic trail
i bet Sylvanas isnt going to show up until next xpac
I’d be glad not to see her in this patch I’m so tired of looking at her
im going to assume they need to put Zidormi right? just noticed we cant enter SoO
Lol
zealous basalt
gross
dense plover
XD
tropic trail
damn looks like someone had a bad cycle
dense plover
come on
thats just immature and sexist
its gross because its visually gross
its literally called a tumor
dense plover
im going back to uldum to finish up
tropic trail
I just remembered that Kul Tirans are literally the only AR’s so far on Alliance that have gotten druid
Like Horde have two druid AR’s and Alliance only has one
dense plover
theyre resurrecting the statue
tropic trail
wake me up inside
dense plover
thats a normal statue in the zone
so thats actually a really cool detail
vision is in mop
so uh
not only SW or Org
those are expeditions
visions are different
i will take ALL the screenshots
since i upgraded my titan research to full for testing purposes
tropic trail
the next expac is called Azeroth In Space and introduces an obnoxious battle royale mode
dense plover
and....its stuck on the load screen
heres hoping i dont get kicked from the game
fuck
zealous basalt
ahahaha
dense plover
oh wait
its loading me in again
either im fucked or it will work
its working
vale shrine of seven stars
tropic trail
pretty
night swift
what class you playing in destiny Mak?
dense plover
VISUAL OUTSIDE
its sick
giant tentacles
all animated and awesome
also - from what I can gather
these are essentially islands but instead of a bar to fill you are trying to stop a bar from emptying
you want to clear all the enemies, get their loot
and thats it?
not bad, definitely not great solo as is
also the amount of corrupted momentos definitely means you need a group
tropic trail
looks pretty but has no depth.
tropic trail
At the end of the raid Nzoth is like
"Hah. You thought. You've been tricked"
"Bojqngles"
smoky mural
well they killed the forsken
limber mural
Y'know knowing Azshara isn't a raid boss in Nyalotha
I have a feeling how the nzoth fight could theoretically go
Anyone else here played Kid Icarus Uprising?
and does anyone remember the final fight
they might see where I'm going with this
bitter elk
please excuse the huge watermark and weird audio in the beginning of this but I did get a video of the n'zoth whispers while partaking in a vulpera raid!
it's pretty creepy (and also kinda loud in comparison to the rest of the games audio)
sullen dawn
Sylvanas is gonna swoop I at the 11th hour and sacrifice herself to kill nzoth
uncut vault
Looking at vulpera, this makes me really sad regarding the goblin updates. Their casters and melee anims got next to no actual upgrades, including in their faces, but when you look at the vulpera stuff, they are much more high fidelity versions of the goblin ones. Seems like goblins getting a full update got sacrificed for making vulpera more unique.
sullen dawn
Btw I'm convinced the 6 masters are the 6 cosmic forces (death,life,void,light,order,chaos)
Potentially players will get to choose one to align with in a future expansion
bitter elk
yeah I definitely feel like goblins got sacrificed a little for vulpera stuff
Also here is the n'zoth quest pop up that showed up when he started whispering to everyone in case one missed it or didn't get to see it! excited to do this one when it's live
tropic trail
Alliance got the short end of the stick. Can't even transmog
ember tundra
wtf, you can change your faction ?!
strange falcon
🤔
round lake
@ember tundra ?
ember tundra
read the quest text
tropic trail
That's just a PvP quirk
indigo laurel
Its the same as the censer on the timeless isle
indigo laurel
Just with more widely aplicable zones
bitter elk
yeah you'd be hostile to both horde and alliance for it and the item you use has a 1 hour cooldown and you become friendly to your faction again after death
tropic trail
Thanks warlock main!
ember tundra
What do you think about sylvanas's and azshara's bargain ?
smoky mural
Dumb as the rest of bfa
tropic trail
I think Sylvanas will betray Azshara at the end and kill her
"You failed to serve me"
ember tundra
"dumb" is not the best arguing I've seen
smoky mural
The deal done
bitter elk
definitely feel like one of them would kill the other if they do not hold up to a deal
ember tundra
I don't understand the last sentence of their dialogue
tropic trail
I just said that
ember tundra
No i mean
smoky mural
The deal is in a flash back
ember tundra
azshara seems to see that sylvanas has another thing in mind that might be ...
tropic trail
BETRAYAL
ember tundra
"Azshara: Treacherous Banshee! Do you think I am blind to the darkness you seek to unleash?"
wow calm down
it's not betrayal there
tropic trail
Sylvanas is definitely gonna betray Azshara. That's how edgy she is built up to be
ember tundra
I don't care about the fact that she is gonna "betray" azshara. I care about the last sentence, "the darkness you seek to unleash"
meaning that azshara herself knows what is the real plan of sylvanas
and it's the mystery around this "darkness"
tropic trail
Uh yeah, her plan is to kill then ressurect as unded. And this "darkness" is death magic
bitter elk
honestly I think her magic might be something more than just death magics
tropic trail
Elf death magic! 
storm marsh
Good morning
strange falcon
greetings
tropic trail
A new day is dawning
ember tundra
It's just strange because it's a magic we never see
It's like OoOOoOOoOOo death magic
without any hints on what forms it takes
storm marsh
I'm currently reading the dialog between the dragonflights and something caught my eye. Wrathion tells Kalecgos he heard he is in a relationship with a human (Jaina I guess) and Kalecgos responds with "From what I have been told, certain mortals might say the same thing about you."
Is this what I think it is?
bitter elk
I'm hoping so but I have a wranduin pfp so I don't wanna say shit on that bc I'm biased cjbdkvnsjcn
bitter elk
Yeah I think the raid corruption will only be temporary
storm marsh
Wait, is it known who is the main cast of this patch? Dragonflights, mother and diamond pawn?
bitter elk
I personally don't have a clue but those ones definitely seem big to the patchs story from what I can tell
sudden oak
If we get wranduin I will literally scream my lungs out
Also you are a high cultured individual @bitter elk
ember tundra
what do you mean by wranduin ?
bitter elk
thank you :3c (I drew my pfp actually! seems like I should draw wrathion again though since his new dragon models were mined 👀)
also mood
wrathion/anduin
bitter elk
this was the dialogue in question
I honestly have no clue who else could possibly be in relations with wrathion if not anduin
sorry it's spoilered it's from another server of mine where we hide them out of respect for others
storm marsh
But I'm actually not surprised. It was just a matter of time
ember tundra
wut, kalec is not speaking about the relationship
he is speaking about the human nature
and that wrathion is the son of deathwing
"frickle beings, yet hold great promise"
and kalec answers you're the same man
storm marsh
Wow. Did yall see that nzoth zone in nazjatar
bitter elk
I haven't been to nazj yet in ptr but I'll definitely check it out later
storm marsh
Wut. It might be in game already?
Lmfaooo I'm reading all these dialogs. They are really making multiple people into a romantic relationship
Never thought of Thalyssra and Lorthemar
Somebody said "Had the Nightwell cured by the Arcandor... but still so thirsty."
bitter elk
Hnnkgfngfmvhm
uncut vault
Kalecs dirst line is talking about his relationship when Jaina, his second is talking about how particular mortals might say the same general statement that Wrathion said about Wrathion himself. Wrathion responds with those certain mortals and his relation to them being complicated indeed.
The only mortal he’s had any relationship with is Wrathion, and their relationship since War Crimes is very complicated
Combine that with Wrathion discussing Anduin in the visions, and showing up in Stormwind to meet with Anduin
There’s really nobody else he can be referring to
storm marsh
Nazjatar looks the same
calm garden
of cause you would say that you are an old god
calm garden
wtf even is that zone i wander
stiff vector
https://wow.tools/maps/NZoth/798/5/-30.663/37.165 in case anyone wants to zoom in more
calm garden
wander what that place will look like in game
stiff vector
there will be some screenshots popping up later today i'm sure
deft carbon
calm garden
the corrupted ring that summons the thing from beyond is so easy to troll and kill low level's with XD
storm marsh
Screenshots of what @stiff vector
stiff vector
the map
obtuse vine
tropic trail
@storm marsh that's nazjatar just below it?? or just similar?
stiff vector
it is nazjatar under it yeah @tropic trail
early blockout of the zone and a bit smaller
likely from late 8.0 time wise
so very early on
can probably get an even exacter time, sec 🤔
same time as darkshore warfront development
so during 8.1 development nazjatar dev started too
neat
calm garden
soo n'zoth bursted his body out of the ground?
stiff vector
yeah he's a big boi
calm garden
his a bigger boi then long boi long boi sad]
zealous basalt
World of romance craft
foggy abyss
Do we have a map of the raid ?
hasty elbow
That mogu faction in the vale, are they the hint at them becoming allied race in the future? 
round lake
everythings an allied rqce
tropic trail
also mechagnomes dont have many transmog options lol.. makes me not even bother with that allied race but i just want the mount lol
strange falcon
i mean,they have human faces e.e
and i am sure some people are incredibly happy with them
thought not me personally
tranquil steeple
depends on final number tuning on racials I imagine
I didn't find it hard to get the rep, just.. time consuming. mostly out of my own choice to not do like 90% of the rotating dailies, and mainly only doing the big WQ for 850 rep
tropic trail
Mechagon rep?
tranquil steeple
mhm, but then again in overall you're basically able to get an emissary's worth of rep if you did everything every day
meager zodiac
look at all my transmog options
tropic trail
lol
meager zodiac
gee i cant wait for mechagnomes
i just love how the first left of the top row looks
and the bottom row
tropic trail
check hands too
meager zodiac
my god i just cant wait
i cant wait
its just so good
i cant wait to play a class normal gnomes cant get.. oh wait
tranquil steeple
but don't you have the option to not mechanize your legs..?
meager zodiac
nope
its always like this
you are grinding an ar
to not have tranmosg
that is litearly the feature
tropic trail
@tranquil steeple sadly no
meager zodiac
you dont get any classes that normal gnomes dont have
the mount is basicaly what you normaly get on mechagon but in pant form
meager zodiac
8.2 had the models ready for playability
people already knew what they were gonna get
strange falcon
"not without hands or legs"
"you didnt specify"
could
is a big word
all devtime went into vulperas
meager zodiac
oh wow i can totaly get it
i cant wait to always have . 3 pieces of mog
to play a characther that doesnt have any reason to grind mogs
sullen dawn
They're critters in my eyes
sullen dawn
I have no complaints
meager zodiac
its ptr spoilers of a terrible race
strange falcon
roll alliance so you can kill them,i heard they need more reinforcements on that side
tranquil steeple
give blizzard feedback from the ptr that they want feedback from
meager zodiac
they wont take any feeback lol
even ion on the video
the way he spoke about mechagnomes its very obvious they know its a trash product
sullen dawn
My feedback is: remove vulpera
meager zodiac
"oh you can have a mechagnome with ... metal legs, moving on"
remove mechagnomes
a lot less tears on that side
tranquil steeple
okay and what good does not actually giving feedback do
sullen dawn
I'm joking
tranquil steeple
besides fully cement in that this is how the mechagnomes are gonna look
dense plover
i figured out why there is no old god stuff in the vale
sullen dawn
I dont care if they remove vulpera or not (they wont). I'm happy anyway cos we got the superior mechagnome AR
sullen dawn
But I was kidding about removal
dense plover
oh, i missed that
meager zodiac
the superior race that cant use mogs
dense plover
so yeah, seems like the plan is probably to have both zones be active 24/7 and what actually changes is the assault types
hopefully there are more than 2 for each
my guess is there are
the 3 for the uldum is the question
mantid will be amber
and those weird mantid buildings
silithus isnt the mantid
mantid are the dreadwastes
3 for uldum - nzoth, suncallers (theyre already around in the zone) and uh, idk the third
maybe raiders?
i hope they add portals
right now getting bacvk and forth is a bit cumbersome
Ah
so both factions that are currently active
but not in the assault area
interesting
RIGHT
the aqir are cthun's
not nzoths
huh
so cthun is definitely active then
thats a big deal
could hint that we ARE going into a black empire expac
hm,mmmm
that feels odd
considering cthun is still alive
tropic trail
In the comics, Cho'Gall ressed him
tropic trail
Unsure on the mogu
dense plover
he was never dead
just the mantid
mogu were evil because mogu
they controlled themselves
strange falcon
mogu are not fleshy
tropic trail
The Storm Giants from Northrend spread the curse on them
And the Tol'vir
They just came searching on one of the keepers. Tyr, I believe
dense plover
whats it look like?
vernal juniper
is the new island expedition crates for 175 doublons
opened 2 of them
1st 2 trasmo and 1 pet
strange falcon
@meager zodiac https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/360882559137349632/631126697588293632/0yspgt7n59r31.png
tropic trail
WAH
vernal juniper
2nd 2 trasmo 1 mount
dense plover
OH
tropic trail
That image is cursed
dense plover
omg
foggy abyss
Mb It was already posted 
dense plover
vale is pretty
tropic trail
Arthas sound effect Purge
sullen dawn
My new main :D
dense plover
rajani are some kind of mogu
tropic trail
His name sounds so
sudden oak
possible next allied race? 
dense plover
yes
no not an allied race
i doubt we will see any new ARs this expac
next ones are probably prepatch
tropic trail
Expecting san'layn next expansion
strange falcon
nah
sanlayn,only 1 guy showed up for 10 seconds,betrayed the horde literally seconds after
and got killed by alliance
and that was it
dense plover
^
tropic trail
8.3.5 will probably not be much lol im just hoping for Draenei heritage <-<
sudden oak
I wonder what kind of shit show will happen for raden to shift from there to being a boss in the raid
tropic trail
because i like assuming it
I think Blizzcon will reveal heritage armors for all remaining races
dry plinth
Hi. Has anyone found how to get the sliver of nzoth item that turns you hostile to other players?
strange falcon
there is a quest
dry plinth
Where is it?
strange falcon
no idea,just saw a screenshot
forest sphinx
So @dense plover, got any thoughts on the patch so far?
dry plinth
Can you link the screenshot?
strange falcon
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/406285497846071306/631055520593084416/1570525565104.png @dry plinth
dry plinth
thank you!
uncut lintel
guys, if u sleep as vulpera, and get up, u stretch and yawn
strange falcon
its known :p
forest sphinx
When do you think we will see it release @dense plover
forest sphinx
That's what I was thinking too
hasty elbow
is there any breadcrumb quest to vale or just go there anyway?
tropic trail
also, do we have a Video where we can see how Azshara and Sylvanas talks to each other about their bargain against Nzoth?
or is it not available yet ingame?
twilit coral
ouhhhhhhh mama!
dense plover
yeah thats nyalotha
it isnt actually there btw
its just that they were working on both at the same time
nazjatar will be removed before that map actually goes live
@hasty elbow no quests yet outside of dailies
theyll probably arrive soon tho
depends on when we get a build
dense plover
they were essentially designing both at the same type
stiff vector
nyalotha is separate
forest sphinx
I think it’s awesome that they’ve had this planned for awhile
stiff vector
yeah its just nzoth hanging out with nazjatar
dense plover
still, probably wont include naz
dense plover
no i meant the final nzoth map probably wont