beta-ptr-spoilers

[tropic trail]

Sylvanas: In the end, he too( Nzoth) will serve death"

dayym

This is fucking awful

[mighty wolf]

so Sylvanas wants to use Xalatath (knife) to imprison Nzoth in it? Poggers

[modest acorn]

Ummm, so i feel like that last quote made shadowlands even more possible

[tropic trail]

But it wont happen

[green laurel]

which is what

[tropic trail]

yea, Sylvanas basically will enslave Azshara and Nzoth

[green laurel]

dukkha why not

[tropic trail]

to serve death

[flint meteor]

LOLOL

[tropic trail]

dayyym

[flint meteor]

i see

[tropic trail]

It wont happen

[flint meteor]

that makes sense

[tropic trail]

Its not happening

[modest acorn]

Dukkha you dont know it wont

[tropic trail]

What

[green laurel]

because u dont want it to?

[tropic trail]

BECAUSE ITS STUPID AND MAKES NO SENSE

[modest acorn]

^ that is why it wont happen lol

[flint meteor]

we fight nzoth in 8.3 but sylv will get his ass

with the blade

XDD

[tropic trail]

Helya doesn’t even have the power to do that by herself

[green laurel]

lol there it is

[tropic trail]

WHY WOULD SOME GIGANTIC LOVECRAFTIAN DIETY

[green laurel]

masks off he just doesnt want it to happen

[tropic trail]

WITH THE POWER TO CORRUPT ENTIRE REALMS

[green laurel]

okay but tell us how you really feel

[zealous basalt]

Wait

[tropic trail]

Nzoth doesn’t even want a war to anything the poor guy just wanted to be free

BE IMPRISONED BY SOME MIDDLING TITAN KEEPER

[zealous basalt]

@tropic trail Now

[storm marsh]

Okay, I just read everything. So Sylvanas made a deal with Azshara & she will enslave Nzoth?

[tropic trail]

AND A STUPID ELF

[zealous basalt]

that makes more sense

[modest acorn]

@tropic trail HAVE YOU SEEN SOUTH PARK CARTMAN tames Cthulhu

[zealous basalt]

She played both armies together?

[tropic trail]

How can they form the power to enslave the fucking old god like what

[modest acorn]

i think helya is actually gonna control n'zoth

[storm marsh]

Who will be her followers now if she abandoned forsaken

[tropic trail]

Where are they getting this power?

[storm marsh]

Helya's forcea?

[tropic trail]

SYLVANAS THINKS SHE CAN CONTROL NZOTH, BUT THATS WHAT HE WANTS HER TO THINK

[green laurel]

helya

turn off caps lock

fool

[flint meteor]

who knows

nzoth says only he can save us from whats to come

[storm marsh]

Im mind blown

[tropic trail]

Exactly

Nzoth is wise to it

[modest acorn]

I think Sylvannas is sending souls to Helya to power that lantern thing, or w/e energy it had in it. And that will be used to Attempt to Ressurect nzoth

[tropic trail]

He's not going to let it happen

Nzoth never died though?

[flint meteor]

maybe nzoth isnt as high as the other force in the background

[modest acorn]

We will kill him for her

[tropic trail]

Old Gods dont really die

[dense plover]

nzoth doesnt need to be anything'd

he is free

[zealous basalt]

Interesting thing

[tropic trail]

They don't die like regular people

They cant be ressurected like that

[dense plover]

nzoth wasnt ever even fought

[zealous basalt]

There are more people in Boralus happy of what happened

[tropic trail]

Because they're not purely physical beings

[dense plover]

yes they are

theyre just too big

and you have to destroy their heart

yshaarj is the only dead old god

[green laurel]

i think it has been claimed that they cannot really die, but wouldnt that also align with the shadowlands?

[dense plover]

they can

[modest acorn]

he wasnt dead until we killed his heart, ok i like that idea

[tropic trail]

Except Y'shaarj was killed and literally became a continent-corrupting force populated by his diffused essence?

[dense plover]

yshaarj is dead

[flint meteor]

they can die lol

[dense plover]

no

yshaarj died recently

[tropic trail]

And now he has dispered?

[dense plover]

when garrosh consumed the heart

like

plz stop

[tropic trail]

Leaving no body to resurrect?

Lmfao

[dense plover]

OLD GODS CAN BE KILLED

[modest acorn]

Y'shaarj i dont think died until his heart wsa consumed and then we finished him

[tropic trail]

My guy please

[dense plover]

you have to destroy the heart

only yshaarj has had that

cthun and yogg we fought a piece

[green laurel]

where was it claimed before that they can't die? wasnt that the belief before y'shaarj died?

[dense plover]

pushed them back in their prison for a bit

[tropic trail]

Old gods dont die until their essence has been diffused

[dense plover]

based on what?

where are you pulling this lore from?

[tropic trail]

They're not mortal creatures

[dense plover]

your ass?

[green laurel]

me?

[stiff vector]

dont be rude

[modest acorn]

What if each old god is a part of azeroth, and the hearth we destroyed was actually azeroths

[round lake]

so overall consensus seems not good lol

[tropic trail]

Dukkha stays coming up with shit

[storm marsh]

What was said after the cinematic?

[flint meteor]

...

[dense plover]

dude, theres no source for what you are saying

old gods can die

we know this

[tropic trail]

The Shadowlands leak is a massive no-lore asspull

[green laurel]

are you talking to me like please tell me

[dense plover]

yshaarj died when the heart was destroyed

[green laurel]

im asking

[tropic trail]

Yes he did

Why do you guys even follow “lore” if yal don’t know

[zealous basalt]

Marlamin

[tropic trail]

But he doesnt have a body to resurrect now does he

Or a spirit

[flint meteor]

he cant ressurect lol he legit gone

[zealous basalt]

So, Sylvanas is acting?

[modest acorn]

we are just speculating at this point

[tropic trail]

Old gods dont die like mortal creatures. That was my entire point

[green laurel]

dukha what about the leak is contradictory to an absolute fact of lore

[storm marsh]

So now, both azshara and sylvanas are gone somewhere

[tropic trail]

They can't be ressurected

Because of that fact

[dense plover]

theyve never died tho

[tropic trail]

IF people think that Helya a tool and The Banshee Queen a failure can simply control the old god who is the smartest of them all I’m sorry

[dense plover]

only yshaarj has died

[tropic trail]

Like what

[dense plover]

none of the others have been defeated to a point where resurrection is a thing

like

your point is illogical

[hybrid spire]

Whens RaF going to become available?

[dense plover]

they cant be resurrcted

[tropic trail]

"I need the banshee idiot to be relevant please"

[dense plover]

based on what?

only one old god has died

ever

yshaarj

and only when the heart was destroyed

[tropic trail]

I didnt know old gods had spirits and other things to be resurrected with

[green laurel]

okay you two please read this, what if the reason they cannot die is BECAUSE of their control of nyalotha. The point being they can die, but they always get resurrected from the shadowlands so they never really die

[dense plover]

what?

thats not

the fuck are you even talking about?

[zealous basalt]

Hey, guys wasn't there a maelstrom questline for the heart?

[tropic trail]

Nobody knows what fucking Nyalotha is

[dense plover]

what

also no

both of you

old gods

there are 3

[green laurel]

did you read what I read

[tropic trail]

We know what Nyalotha is

[dense plover]

yeah

[green laurel]

there are 4

[tropic trail]

It isnt some asspull city in the shadowlands

[dense plover]

what you wrote is nonsense

no

[green laurel]

what about it was nonsense

[dense plover]

yshaarj is dead

[tropic trail]

Where they somehow magically now have spirits

[dense plover]

confirmed dead

there are 3

[foggy abyss]

I'm torn

[dense plover]

yogg, cthun, nzoth

[foggy abyss]

I really LOVED the loyalist ending

[dense plover]

theres never been anything talked about in regards to resurrection becaise only yshaarj has ever died

the other 3 are locked in prisons that they arent quite locked in anymore

[tropic trail]

I’m loving the title

[zealous basalt]

i thought you said it was bad

[dense plover]

wioth nzoth being fully free

[tropic trail]

The entire point of old gods is that they're just malignant fragments of void lords

Reminds me of anime

[dense plover]

no

they arent fragments

[round lake]

isnt xalatath considered an OG ?

[tropic trail]

What

[dense plover]

theyre creations

[tropic trail]

Yes they are

[dense plover]

they made them

no

they arent

read chronicles

[tropic trail]

They're fragments of the void lords that made them

[flint meteor]

we can agreed last boss is gonna be nzoth right?

[tropic trail]

[dense plover]

god i hope not

waste of an old god

[tropic trail]

Why would Nzoth be the last boss?

That makes 0 sense

[flint meteor]

i hope not either but profs say otherwise

[dense plover]

lets free an old god and then defeat him

[tropic trail]

He just got free

[dense plover]

im done with this channel for now

too many people

[tropic trail]

We barely have the forces ...

[zealous basalt]

spits drinks

[tropic trail]

These void lords, envious of the Pantheon's power, pooled their power and created the Old Gods to exert their influence over a titan in its most vulnerable state

[storm marsh]

Wowhead post says Sylvanas used Xalatath, yet I think there were 2 daggers. I don't think she used Void magic, but Banshee-Shadow-Purple magic.

[zealous basalt]

NATHANOS CONFESSED?

[flint meteor]

ion did say we would know whos the last boss in the azshara raid cinematic and we did indeed nzoth free, now sylvanas dialogues says we will fight nzoth too

[vernal juniper]

who is death god?

[feral solstice]

an allianze side??

[flint meteor]

pretty much confirmed now

[tropic trail]

We'll fight something N'zoth related

And the next expansion will be an old god war

Yeah

[vernal juniper]

@zealous basalt he called sylvanas LOVE

[green laurel]

oh dukkha has some serious claims of absoluteness now

totally not pulled out of his rear

[tropic trail]

We still have Magni and the gigantic sword in the ground

[flint meteor]

xDD thats what we want, but the profs are saying otherwise

[storm marsh]

Damn this is so confusing as I think some ppl here write things that weren't said in-game, but it seems like they said. I guess I'll be patient and wait for tomorrow in EU

[feral solstice]

yeahh Nathanos said it!

My love

[uncut lintel]

WEHAT

I WANNA SEE IT

[feral solstice]

in the loyal cinematic

[uncut lintel]

O----O

[zealous basalt]

https://clips.twitch.tv/DifferentComfortableKumquatTheTarFu?tt_medium=clips_api&tt_content=url

[tropic trail]

There's more supporting old gods than crappy shadowlands fanfiction

[uncut lintel]

ER MA GUD

[tropic trail]

It's been the B-plot this entire expac

Helya is only mentioned in a single island expedition quest

[uncut lintel]

OMG

[vernal juniper]

so the leak can be real

😄

[uncut lintel]

THE SHIP HAS SAILED

ITS OFFICIAL

[tropic trail]

No. Blizzard would have more buildup than that

How do I start the bee quest

We got all this old god stuff and models

[zealous basalt]

You need the pet

[tropic trail]

And nothing related to death

Oh I have that ty

[storm marsh]

Excuse me, where are both slyvanas and nathanos heading?

[tropic trail]

To hell I hope

Okay so I took the pet out and nothing lol

[storm marsh]

Anyways, we can agree Sylvanas was pretty in that cinematic

[zealous basalt]

Interesting, after the war is over there are few marines

[vernal juniper]

confirmed we go vs nzoth on loyalty cinematic

[tropic trail]

@storm marsh she is ugly my opinion lol

[storm marsh]

😛

[uncut lintel]

i think shes hot

[tropic trail]

so Nzoth last boss of BFA? kek

[zealous basalt]

confirmed nothing

[vernal juniper]

she said it

[storm marsh]

Why did u say loyalist cinematic like there is another cinematic

[vernal juniper]

"azoroth people will go vz Aszhara master"

[tropic trail]

Not nzoth himself

[vernal juniper]

something like that

[tropic trail]

But something related to him

[vernal juniper]

"even Nzoth will serve death"

she said

[flint meteor]

@zealous basalt no lol they said we would know in the cinematic of eternal palace who would be the endboss

nzoth got freed, and now with sylvanas dialogue the champions of azeroth will fight nzoth

[zealous basalt]

it can be aszhara again

[green laurel]

nah

[tropic trail]

I love that "my love" line from Nathanos

❤

[vernal juniper]

is this "death" ?

https://wow.gamepedia.com/Mueh'zala

they talking on streams

[green laurel]

yeah possibly

[tropic trail]

this is an entity

of death

[zealous basalt]

No you

[tropic trail]

not death itself

there is no death itself

[zealous basalt]

I mean

Tilted

[tropic trail]

like there is no void itself

[zealous basalt]

did you notice the tone of Sylvanas at the end?

[tropic trail]

which end?

[green laurel]

the end of what

[tropic trail]

cinematic?

[zealous basalt]

no no, the end where Nathanos calls her love when both bid farewells

[tropic trail]

yea whats with that?

I noticed her voice

more like a good bye

[zealous basalt]

it went from high to low and then almost seductive, that was a massive hook she threw

and then it closed with

[tropic trail]

so what u say makore?

[zealous basalt]

"my love"

i say

ship sailed

[tropic trail]

I yea

I mean

it was already in dark mirror

clear

[lament fjord]

Nathanos voice crack at the end makes me have empathy with him for the first time

[zealous basalt]

but now its cristal clear

[tropic trail]

yea

and Im happy

[zealous basalt]

ALSO

HELLO BLIZZARD

AREN'T YOU FORGETTING SOMETHING?

[whole cedar]

That's Portuguese?

[inner copper]

spanish

[zealous basalt]

no, spanish

[whole cedar]

Well same deal

[zealous basalt]

Isn't brozzard forgetting

[inner copper]

what

[zealous basalt]

The RaF

[inner copper]

oh XD

[tropic trail]

What was Azshara's plan then?

Free Nzoth and became a complete and utter thrall to him?

[vernal juniper]

Horde: Have you forgotten your humiliation on the Broken Shore? How your mighty Warchief was stuck in the belly like a helpless piglet? Will you die slowly as he did, consumed by fel corruption and squealing for a merciful end? Your pathetic Horde will fall to dust. In the end, death will inherit this world... and she will be waiting.

guldan quote

[flint meteor]

yep

:

[tropic trail]

So, Lich Queen time then

Or maybe Orcs consider death feminine

[whole cedar]

How incredibly unpredictable

[flint meteor]

i totally do see it

we fight nzoth

in the end we all die

[tropic trail]

You fight N'zoths forces

[flint meteor]

sylv brings up her plan

[tropic trail]

Lol no

"Guys totally work with and trust me"

[vernal juniper]

I want the shadowland leak be real ! It's amazing story if happens

[tropic trail]

Its not amazing

Its fanfiction tier garbage

[storm marsh]

I love how Valeera also went to boralus

[zealous basalt]

What

[flint meteor]

i woudnt say as the leak says but sure in the end would be good way to shadowlands

[zealous basalt]

Where she is

[terse patrol]

So, I think my theory about the Night Elves splitting may be true.

[vernal juniper]

well if everyone dies @tropic trail on massress, we can ress old caracters

[tropic trail]

Fuck off

Let characters die and stay dead

[zealous basalt]

Oi

chill

[inner copper]

no need to be rude about it

[tropic trail]

Events need to have depth and meaning

[vernal juniper]

dw already blocked this tard

[terse patrol]

Night Elves are present for the Orgrimmar fight under Shandris I think. But we know Tyrande has stopped communicating with the Alliance, and is still in Darkshore with the Army of the Black Moon.

[storm marsh]

@makore there is a cutscene of aftermath of saurfang's death. After the speech Anduin, Valeera and other alliance members enter the portal to boralus. Jaina looks at thrall and then goes trough too

Failed tag

[zealous basalt]

Oh but I mean

[green laurel]

dukkha is extremely viscerally grumpy about the idea of the shadowlands leak being real

[zealous basalt]

Like if she there

[hasty elbow]

so when could we expected 8.3?

[terse patrol]

Yeah, I think they’re making Valeera more of an Alliance character.

[zealous basalt]

Also @terse patrol

[storm marsh]

I like it

[hasty tendon]

Valeera has been an Alliance Char since her inception, though.

[inner copper]

no

neutral

[tropic trail]

shadowlander immediately resorts to blocking and slurs

[terse patrol]

She’s “neutral.”

[tropic trail]

Pottery

[hasty tendon]

She was briefly horde in the comic, but she's loyal to the wrynn family.

[storm marsh]

She's always been neutral. A good friend of varian

[forest sphinx]

So 8.3 PTR when? lol

[hasty elbow]

^

[inner copper]

but she's loyal to the wrynn family for personal reasons

[zealous basalt]

I think Tyrande and Genn might join with the Army of the Black Moon to hunt Sylvanas down against Anduin's words

[storm marsh]

Hopefully at least a week before blizzcon with stream

[vernal juniper]

What if sylvanas is corrupted and wration use the elixir on her?

[hasty tendon]

I'd say being Loyal to the King makes you more Alliance than Neutral.
But I suppose that's up for debate.

[dark furnace]

Sylvanas is not corrupted

Will of the Forsaken

[green laurel]

i'm not even saying its real dukha im just saying it's extremely weird to have to completely block yourself from the possibility of it being real, you're just making yourself jump hoops to speculate

[tropic trail]

It's not going to be real because its a disgusting lorebortion

[green laurel]

xd

[zealous basalt]

Oshit, furry convention

[inner copper]

knowing blizz it still might happen tho

[green laurel]

yeah you're not irrationally discounting it at all

[tropic trail]

It'd be Kerrigan but even fucking worse

[green laurel]

[storm marsh]

I just read the wowhead post about what she said at windrunner's spire. She's definetly not corrupted (and she used her banshee magic against saurfang). She thinks she's smarter than nzoth and that she will make him serve too

[tropic trail]

It'd go down as the most 🐷 shit expansion ever

[green laurel]

lol what about it is bad again

[round lake]

if they were smart they would do a stream this week for 8.3 because Im not seeing to much good coming from this campaign with peoples reactions

[tropic trail]

Do you want an essay?

[austere gazelle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tHJv9QuiI4

[flint meteor]

ya in the end the victorious will be death

[storm marsh]

I expect ppl being furious about "no content" again

[inner copper]

we want you to chill

[flint meteor]

prob

[storm marsh]

And filling foruma

[green laurel]

im sure it would be a calm and collected essay talking about the substantive inconsistencies it would have with the lore and genre?

[tropic trail]

I want the expansion to not be a pathetic fanfiction

[green laurel]

yeah there we go

substantive critique right there hahaha

[flint meteor]

we literaly got told (loyalists) that the army of azeroth will fight nzoth and that death will await us basically

[zealous basalt]

Can you calm down

[tropic trail]

Going to that after all the old god teasing would be blueballing of the highest fucking caliber

[zealous basalt]

Chill

[green laurel]

it would be going against the old gods though...am i missing something

[long blade]

@tropic trail Id love to see you write something better than that fanfiction

[tropic trail]

"Hey you know all of that cool old god stuff right? Here's an ugly pissant elf"

I could write a better expac with my limp dick

[green laurel]

dukha everything is fanfiction until blizzard hires you

[storm marsh]

Is there such need for arrogance

[zealous basalt]

Chilll

[long blade]

little kids man

[green laurel]

lol dukha can I ask what race you play in the game

[tropic trail]

Your a terrorblade main

[zealous basalt]

Boi, that was uncalled for

[green laurel]

bruh

im not even though

i just changed it to this for when i join the demon hunter discord and havent changed it back, im not a dh main either btw before you jump

[zealous basalt]

At least he didn't call yoou a hanzo main

[tropic trail]

I main a gnome rogue, and Draenei DK

[green laurel]

i main a goblin DK

kinda a middle ground between your two toons when u think about it

I thought you must play night elf

[long blade]

yikes Draeinei dk

[tropic trail]

I hate elves

It's a male draenei

Calm yourself

[long blade]

Even more Yikes

[green laurel]

dakh dont be as rude

like senselessly rude

[tropic trail]

You in unironically say yikes

That's worse

[long blade]

lol

Just messing around dont be upsetti

[green laurel]

i was gonna say night elf cause ive only ever seen night elves complain so much about any progression in the story as you are to the shadowlands

[tropic trail]

Im glad Nzoth will be 8.3

[green laurel]

cause they cant get over that stupid ass tree

[tropic trail]

and Sylv plays the "Master Death" role

[storm marsh]

Yeah

[terse patrol]

Well.

Here’s hoping now that the Horde arc is over, the Alliance will get. . . something.

[green laurel]

I hope they get lorderon

just to shut them up for like 3 seconds

[long blade]

and high elves too

[storm marsh]

Haha

[long blade]

I really dont mind if they got em

[green laurel]

there are even some forsaken in the funeral for saurfang

thats real solidarity

✊

[storm marsh]

I guess all forsaken are thinking sylvanas abandoned them

(This shouldnt sound like she didnt)

[green laurel]

at least some are and thats above the bar previously set for forsaken solidarity with the horde

[tropic trail]

I like the outcome. a lot. And Im a hardcore Sylvanas fan

[zealous basalt]

Hmm

[velvet wind]

There were forsaken at the funeral for Vol'Jin

[zealous basalt]

@dense plover

[tropic trail]

I expected so much worse shit

[zealous basalt]

You aren't the only one

[green laurel]

Jlucks thats a bit of a different dynamic because his death meant the rise of sylvanas

[zealous basalt]

There are people at lvl 60 that can't access the quest

[green laurel]

this time its forsaken at the funeral of an orc who was killed by sylvanas after he totally dunked on her

like a real fuckin roast too damn that shit was straight fire

[dense plover]

what

[green laurel]

he was like YOU JUST KEEP FAILING

[dense plover]

huh

maybe bugged?

or higher lvl requirement

god i hope not

[green laurel]

hm?\

[long blade]

But did she tho?

We havent seen the final plan yet

[green laurel]

yeah i mean if her goal was to destroy hope shes failed constantly

if she has ulterior motives then yeah maybe not

but for now she got totally owned lul

[long blade]

he only saw that she wanted him to see

so in his eyes, I guess sure she kept failing

[zealous basalt]

Idk

[long blade]

Im just glad he is finally dead. I grew tired with sad orcs

[green laurel]

well that didnt keep her from looking embarrassed hahaha she was like 😨

[tropic trail]

how Sylvanas got totaly owned?

its the opposite

[zealous basalt]

Testing

[tropic trail]

she became what she wanted

[green laurel]

saurfang roasted her

[tropic trail]

anyone still likes her?

more souls for death

[green laurel]

about how much shes failed

[tropic trail]

Saurfang died to her 😄

[green laurel]

u mean shadowlands?

[tropic trail]

what?

[ionic terrace]

i guess calia and derek are a couple now lol

[green laurel]

the fuk

[long blade]

lmao

[tropic trail]

Wait what

lol

naaaah

[green laurel]

menethil and proudmoore as a couple? Where have I seen that before

[ionic terrace]

There's an extra quest after

[tropic trail]

i already did them they arent a couple

[ionic terrace]

yes ik

it was a joke

😦

[green laurel]

that would be weird i mean imagine if arthas were alive

[tropic trail]

-.-

[zealous basalt]

Boy

[ionic terrace]

Lillian says she must act quickly 👀

[zealous basalt]

We have done wars over better jokes

[green laurel]

yeah like sylvanas

zing

gotem

[zealous basalt]

oh gods

[ionic terrace]

well nanny wasn't hard to find

[zealous basalt]

I CAN'T BEAR TO PLAY MONK AT THIS LEVEL REEE

[long blade]

ugh i hope derek is still mind controlled and kills calia

[ionic terrace]

he's still chilling on the boat 🙂

[flint meteor]

eh not all.

i think theres undead who werent the loyalists thus still following the horde

[zealous basalt]

BLIZZARD WHY THE HECK DID YOU GIVE ME A WEAPON AS PARTY SYNC'D

[flint meteor]

only the loyalists are following her now and well the king of them, nathanos

[tropic trail]

I like it

[uncut vault]

out of context, it looks like this is the new couple lol

[long blade]

Pure undead faction

[zealous basalt]

Of course

Damn proudmores

[flint meteor]

aint the new couple jaina and thal

[storm marsh]

I love the banshees at windrunner spire. They bowed to her as she was walking down the path

[long blade]

yeah they are cool

[forest sphinx]

I want to know where Sylvanas ran off to

[zealous basalt]

Ah interesting

the cache of the Party sync ins't guaranteed

[long blade]

she ran off to her old home

in the ghostlands

[tropic trail]

There's a follow-up quest for the loyalists.

[unborn glacier]

Can someone tell me what happens to the loyalists?

[zealous basalt]

I has something better for chu

https://www.wowhead.com/news=295285/war-campaign-sylvanas-loyalist-ending-sylvanas-plan-revealed-spoilers

This is what you get when you complete a dungeon like a party sync'd

[vernal juniper]

that is a strange language 😄

[zealous basalt]

@tropic trail

So sylvanas bad?

Its

The gear thing you get at low levels

the new stuff for party sync and

class resources

[vernal juniper]

you mean

war resource?=

[tropic trail]

Sylvanas is now a villain to horde and alliance, I think -. yes

except

the loyalists

[long blade]

3 factions confirmed

[tropic trail]

nah

[storm marsh]

I dont think she will be a boss. Loyalists wont fight her

[zealous basalt]

no

not war resources

class order resources

[unborn glacier]

If she leads an actual third faction, I'll faction swap

[long blade]

Same

[unborn glacier]

Especially if I can finally be an undead elf

[long blade]

undead every race

thatd be dope

there is a lot of potential

[unborn glacier]

I have wanted to be an undead Helf for the longest time

A casualty of the Third war

[zealous basalt]

no

[long blade]

would you rather undead or San'layn

[unborn glacier]

I'll take either one

[long blade]

same tbh. Both could be part of the same faction

[zealous basalt]

Oi

there is extra dialogue from Genn in the ship after you complete it

[storm marsh]

So what happened with calia exactly

[autumn stirrup]

What's genn say anything interesting?

[zealous basalt]

He is worried that the Horde is united and that Sylvanas fled, Mathias replied that the IV is looking for Nathanos and Sylvanas and that all they have to do right now is listening and observe.

[autumn stirrup]

Worried that horde united? Interesting

[tropic trail]

I read right now

if you side with Sylvanas, you can kill other Horde players

who not sided with our dark lady

[long blade]

realyl

really*??

[stiff vector]

i'm calling bull on that

[tropic trail]

yea, Im reading it on the US forums

[stiff vector]

if so that would be pretty gamechanging

[tropic trail]

not sure if this is just a bug or not

[long blade]

sweet now we can kill alliance and traitors

[zealous basalt]

can someone confirm

[stiff vector]

i think we wouldve heard

[dark furnace]

Imagine walking into Orgrimmar, and getting ganked by every soul in the city

[long blade]

and Genn probably doesnt like the whole alliance and horde thing

[storm marsh]

Im pretty sure sylvanas told the player that if they knew about player being loyal to her, they would be chained already

[tropic trail]

yea

[zealous basalt]

Can't find anyhing els

[long blade]

ugh this patch left me with more questions than answers

No resolution for the nelfs

[zealous basalt]

I am afraid there is

Something dark cooking by Tyrande's side

[hardy tree]

8.3 :)

[zealous basalt]

Even if yana said the risk was about the ritual

These transformations always come with a side effect

After all, wasn't it Elune's revenge

[tropic trail]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFPmHreXkAE4Lg1?format=png&name=360x360

thats the "buff" you get

[sudden oak]

glorious

[zealous basalt]

So

can you attack everyone?

[long blade]

lmao

[tropic trail]

I dont know

I cant test it by myself

EU

[zealous basalt]

damn

Who is a loyalist here

[dense plover]

is it only in the phased zone?

and i imagine its only in war mode too

[stable prawn]

so, can Sylvana become any more cliche villain?

[long blade]

ask the writers

[storm marsh]

I wanna know what's going on with Tyrande

[zealous basalt]

i has a theory

[storm marsh]

Is she angry at Anduin for not sending his forces to Darkshore?

[flint meteor]

ya basically

[storm marsh]

I wonder how it looks lorewise there in Darkshore

The situation I mean

Are Tyrande and Malfurion just chilling at some tree

[stable prawn]

yeah, and that whole transformation now is completely useless

they couldn't even kill Nathanos with it

[mighty wolf]

it seems like cinematic was inspired by Warcraft Movie (Guldan vs Durotan)

[storm marsh]

That's the first thing everybody got on their mind as soon as he shouted Mak'gora :P

[mighty wolf]

i got it when sylvanas used "Avada Kedavra" on Saurfang

[stable prawn]

why couldn't she just kill him without shouting "fuck the horde"?

[dark furnace]

The undead needed a reason to unite with the Horde

And Blizz probably thought it was the smartest way to do it

[storm marsh]

Yeah I think they perfectly balanced the factions

[stable prawn]

yeah, and all crimes, they did are completely forgotten as always, unless they are still on Sylvana side, of course

[storm marsh]

We forgot about something. Who will be the Warchief? Thrall?

[zealous basalt]

Sylvanas is inmune in her Banshee flight

Also

Sylvanas snapped out when Saurfang slashed her

It's a common occurency with petty people when they get surprised like that and fueled her with rage enough to say that without thinking

If you noticed there was a small look on her that was like "oh no"

And her crimes aren't forgotten

[long blade]

Just another horde character that goes emo

[zealous basalt]

If you put attention afterwards Genn is as pissed as Tyrande might be

[long blade]

thanks blizz

[dark furnace]

Wasn't Sylvanas always emo?

[stable prawn]

Yeah, she snapped and couldn't do anything smarter, than turning not only horde but also Forsaken against her

[zealous basalt]

Minus the loyalists

The loyalists still follow her

[stable prawn]

yeah

[zealous basalt]

Although the IV 7 is still looking for both

[dark furnace]

Why did Nathanos and Sylvanas split up?

[stable prawn]

it just... i accepted, that she's plain evil, eats children on breakfast and souls on dinner, but i couldn't imagine her to be so stupid

[zealous basalt]

She isnt stupid but cocky

That is going to cost her a lot

And Fisk, why did they split up in Legion at Stormheim?

[dark furnace]

Hmm

Sylvanas was going after the big flying lady

I forgot why they are called

[zealous basalt]

Not what I meant

Sylvanas likes to do things her own way

[dark furnace]

Yeah, I understood that

[zealous basalt]

She is too cocky

But she showed that she has the means to be cocky

[storm marsh]

I went to that leak again. It says "sylvanas will attack thunder bluff and trick......." which is another confirmation of it being fake

[dark furnace]

In the picture of Stormwind there are Forsaken barricades in the harbor

But the Forsaken are no longer with Sylvanas

[dense plover]

screenshot is very obviously fake

but

i am tempted to say that shadowlands IS a possibility

not in the form people have been saying

[flint meteor]

same

[dense plover]

but assuming we dont get black empire, thats the other path

[zealous basalt]

Peach

I am afraid that

[storm marsh]

If Sylvanas gathers any army, it would be banshees/dark rangers or helya's forces

[dense plover]

im still hoping that moving forward we end up at dragon isles

[zealous basalt]

They will do a black empire patch

[dense plover]

and black empire is an expac

god I hope so

because putting nzoth in a single patch

and having us win

[storm marsh]

Disaster

[dense plover]

goddamn would that be a major waste

just an entire game of waste

he has been built up since classic wow

he should bare minimum be a boss for an entire expac

[zealous basalt]

I'm worried about tyrande

[storm marsh]

I wonder how will they reveal his true form

Hopefully in cgi cinematic

[round lake]

World of Warcraft: The Sleeping Realm

[zealous basalt]

If she becomes a tool of vengeance she might leash against his beloved ones

Her*

[tropic trail]

World of Warcraft: Call of Cth-Nzoth

[dense plover]

only way is via a cgi cinematic

[storm marsh]

It would be epic

[round lake]

World of Warcraft: Rise of Ny'alotha

[dense plover]

it would be a waste otherwise

Return of the Black Empire

or just The Black Empire

[storm marsh]

Epic namw

[dense plover]

or maybe The Black Empire Returns

wouldnt be rise of nyalotha

[tropic trail]

Next expac is old gods for sure

[dense plover]

we arent sure it actually exists

[zealous basalt]

Black Empire Strikes Back

[storm marsh]

Black Empire: Homecoming

[tropic trail]

Its the most likelt

[round lake]

Requiem for Ny'alotha

[zealous basalt]

Kek

[terse patrol]

90% of the aftermath is Horde content, unsurprisingly.

[zealous basalt]

There is a bumch in tiragarde

Some soldiers being happy that war is over

Two kul tiran nobles happy because saurfang is dead

[dark furnace]

That Garrosh one

He did nothing wrong 😢

Also, is Gazlowe no longer neutral?

I thought he was neutral until the Island Expeditions

[dense plover]

gazlowe is a selfish jerk

and doesnt care about the horde

he cares about profits

oop

[zealous basalt]

Hey man

[dense plover]

gallywix

scuse me

they are prepping gazlowe to replace gallywix

[zealous basalt]

Stealth nerf

Time walking gear is 365

[wise crest]

lilian is gonna become the forsaken leader calling it NOW

(ive been calling it for months but calling it even more)

[dark furnace]

I really hope so

There is noone else they could pick besides from Nathanos

[wise crest]

she implies so

[dark furnace]

Wait what

[wise crest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/406282965438562314/626141157885476928/Screenshot_20190924-223022_Discord.jpg

you hand in the final war campaign quest to her

on the banshee's wail

[dark furnace]

What is the context?

[wise crest]

"Sense of Obligation" is the quest title

you inform her of sylvanas fucking off

[dark furnace]

Behind the quest

Oh okay

[wise crest]

and basically everything that went down

in orgrimmar

[zealous basalt]

Oof

[dark furnace]

Are monks bad?

I don't play one currently

[zealous basalt]

So so

[dull flame]

Tanks are fine

[unborn glacier]

Brewmasters are awesome in a lot of EP

[green laurel]

where is it that sylvanas goes after the saurfang death cinematic?

[junior prairie]

||Ghostlands windrunner spire||

[green laurel]

is it known where she goes after that?

[tropic trail]

https://youtu.be/6q1i7x9vyJk

TJ ^

[left berry]

Fuckin. The story ends with someone calling her a meanie and she just cries and leave

[green laurel]

okay my take from that azshara told her that n'zoth is going to attack stormwind

[stable prawn]

i forgot to ask the main question, how's the best hero of bfa, how's our good old Gallywix?

[stiff vector]

fat and rich

[green laurel]

in a boat

[stable prawn]

i hope, he's not in the sylvana's team right now

[green laurel]

lol this actually comes together nicely

after azshara made the deal with n'zoth, she then revealed n'zoths plans to sylvanas

thats why n'zoth man handled her after the EP fight

cause he fuckin knows

sylvanas's plan is to anticipate n'zoths attack on stormwind and funnel those souls to whoever she works for instead

or something like that idk

[ancient jasper]

I REALLY hope Gazlowe murders Gallywix

[dark furnace]

I don't think he'll murder Gallywix

But definitely replace

[green laurel]

thinking of the wrong people lol

[dark furnace]

They are from two different cartels

[stable prawn]

why the hell would anyone want to replace gallywix? especially by gazlowe

Gazlowe is not suited to be leader of goblins

[unborn glacier]

^

[stable prawn]

Whole goblins' culture is that only wealthiest and smartest goblin can become a prince

[unborn glacier]

It takes a greedy fuck to lead a race of greedy fucks

[tropic trail]

I’m just happy she isn’t leading anything now. Crazy ass little girl is always butthurt about something.

[stable prawn]

It's just so annoying, when everyone hates Gallywix just for being proper goblin

[dense plover]

hes a bad racial leader

hes a great goblin

his entire race hates him

he tried to enslave them

[unborn glacier]

I love Gallywix as the leader

[dense plover]

i love him as an npc

[unborn glacier]

He's grown on me

[stable prawn]

the next prince will do the same thing, but worse

[tropic trail]

Yeah I mean there are some lines that make him great

[dense plover]

gawlowe is a better leader

he can still be an npc without being the leader

[stable prawn]

because he won't be as good as gallywix, if he couldn't move him out before

[tropic trail]

I see him as the Cartman of World of Warcraft

[unborn glacier]

XD

[tropic trail]

So next leader will be Stan or Kyle

[unborn glacier]

Cartman would hate Gallywix tho

[tropic trail]

[unborn glacier]

Insert every kind of Jew joke possible Cartman would make

[green laurel]

no thanks

[unborn glacier]

^

[tropic trail]

Poor Gally rip

Well now we have what 4 months till something new

We can grind the bee mount 😄

Which by the way is amazing

[stable prawn]

gallywix is now only constant we have in wow

[modest temple]

Didnt Bwomsamdi mention a "Boss" during a quest in Nazmir? I wonder if that's tied to who Syl is working with.

[stable prawn]

without him whole Azeroth will fall in chaos and anarchy

[tropic trail]

I just wanna know how’s gonna lead the horde Baine🤔

[green laurel]

yeah bonswamdi did say boss

its either hakkar or mhuezala

[tropic trail]

I just see Baine as the only one who can be a leader lel

[green laurel]

or something completely out of left field

or mhuezala and hakkar are the same things by different names

[dense plover]

oh cool

all my emmisaries just disappeared

[green laurel]

relog

[dense plover]

thx

[ancient jasper]

People are speculating that the Horde might rule by Council like Alliance used to.

[green laurel]

council?

[stable prawn]

Talanji shouldn't forget to take Sylvana's head, once they end banshee, so princess could cut the deal with Bwonsamdi

[ancient jasper]

Instead of a single Warchief just having everyone on a Board I suppose you'd call it making decisions together

https://www.wowhead.com/news=295294/craft-galvanic-oscillators-and-chain-ignitercoils-in-mechagon-in-patch-8-2-5

Huh

[green laurel]

I dont think bonswamdi has a preference between who dies or not, I think he just cares about numbers

[ancient jasper]

I didn't know they'd put that in

[green laurel]

you can see that in the fact that he just let king rasta get resurrected because he knew he could get more souls with him alive than dead

[tropic trail]

You know

Maybe

Sylvanas talks about death

You know who else calls themselves the god of death

Yogg

She was impaled on his blood after all

And they brought up wrathgate

[dense plover]

i wouldnt normally be okay with this

but if it leads into an old god expac

i might make an exception

would be pretty shit writing tho

[tropic trail]

Im pretty sure at this point, the next xpac is not black empire

[dense plover]

it better be

if they kill off nzoth

ho boy

will I be pissed

[azure estuary]

Yeah. They’ve built up N’Zoth for way too long just to relegate him to a patch.

[dense plover]

guess guild finder changes didnt go live 😭

[tropic trail]

How do I start wrathion quest?

[zealous basalt]

Yeah

Wonder why

[dense plover]

its bugged

some people can

some cant

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[stiff vector]

thanks for beta testing, US

[dense plover]

idk why its bugged

worked perfectly on ptr

must have to do with making the war campaign a prereq or something

[tropic trail]

Where do I start it at?

I've done the War campaign

Does it have to be on the same character?

[zealous basalt]

Wonder if it related to the wrsthopn thing

Wrathion

[unborn glacier]

Man, I just can't shake my dislike for what Blizz has pulled.

[tropic trail]

I mean I thought it was really good

[unborn glacier]

Yeah, but you don't like Sylvanas or just don't care about good writing.

[tropic trail]

Well I mean I liked her before she started throwing nonsense.

I just want her to be over with kinda just feels like a little kid throwing tantrums and breaking all their toys

[steel sparrow]

Since Rexxar will probably be the new warchief does this mean that we might get the Mok'nathal as an allied race ?

[tropic trail]

But overall the ending was really nice and it was also pretty sad.

Rexxar new warchief? what ya smokin?

Baine is prob gonna be it

Thrall most likely

Let’s be realistic it’s time for the cows to shine

Nahhhh he doesn’t want it

that Saurfang line before he died

He can be the right hand

we dont get to hide

[steel sparrow]

I hope for baine, but Thrall won't become warchief again

[tropic trail]

pretty much hints at him being the Warchief again

He doesn’t have to lead to not hide tho

He can be the right hand to Baine

Or a guide

[steel sparrow]

Mby

[zealous basalt]

It should be a council of Representatives

[steel sparrow]

I'm really stoked to play the new update, Haven't seen the cinematics yet. My friend told me about the end cinematic and he speculated that Rexxar would be warchief. Since Since Rexxar is an mok nathal I thought we might get them as an allied race

[tropic trail]

Rexxar has literally 0% of becoming Warchief

No more allied races

Gah plz

since there doesnt exist any hints to that

[tranquil steeple]

rexxar's only allied to the horde

[tropic trail]

Zappy has a better chance at warchief

[tranquil steeple]

due to the founding of org and stuff

iirc

[tropic trail]

How many of you are friendly with the bees

I’m gonna farm that shit all night to hit friendly

[pulsar iris]

anything interesting besides war campaign is over?

[tropic trail]

I'd like for the last two allied races

[zealous basalt]

Wrathion stuff

[indigo laurel]

seems Arthas makes a cameo in the ingame-cinematic (or at leats his model does) 😄 Or so some of my colleagues think

[zealous basalt]

Other than that

[tropic trail]

I cant start the wrathion quest

[pulsar iris]

what is wrathion stuff?

[zealous basalt]

Cursed image Inc

[restive pasture]

Kill it with fire

🔥

[lusty wasp]

The problem is

The character is flat now, I mean Sylvanas

The whole thing about good villain, such as Arthas, was his redeeming quality

The rest of noble prince holding the evil Lich King

For Sylvanas it was her "love" to Forsaken

Now it's gone

And she's flat

[pulsar iris]

to me, it was her masterplan to save azeroth. i mean, we thought it would be that. but now she's just pure evil and that's all

[lusty wasp]

I hope for that too

Blizzard, you cannot kill hope!

[indigo laurel]

I mean, whatever her masterplan was, its still ongoing

[tropic trail]

^

[lusty wasp]

True, I am sad about her reedeming qualities

Even Illidan care for someone

Cared*

[tropic trail]

She does care

[indigo laurel]

And if we go by what she says in the Loyalist-Outro, it will continue going for a while

[tropic trail]

she even said it in the loyalist quest about the Forsaken

she just dont care about the living

[indigo laurel]

Cause N'zoth getting killed (lets face it, that will happen in 8.3) seems to be part of the plan

[zealous basalt]

She has always been clear about that

[lusty wasp]

And she DID care about Forsaken but she's not now

[pulsar iris]

yes. it is part of her plan

to use nzoth to kill as many pawns as he can

[lusty wasp]

Because they want to hope and they want to be loved

Well after what happened to Daenerys Targaryen I am afraid to believe

[tranquil steeple]

honestly, I'm hoping we only beat back N'zoth in 8.3

and then full on fight him in next expac

[lusty wasp]

Yass

That day isn't bad anyway

I got a job xD

[pulsar iris]

i hope we don't even face nzoth until 9.0

[tranquil steeple]

preferably, that, actually.

but if blizz does make us face n'zoth at all in bfa

[unborn glacier]

Any loyalists in here, know how to Rally the citizens?

[tranquil steeple]

it really shouldn't be us defeating him

[lusty wasp]

Sorry but EU

[tranquil steeple]

and same

[unborn glacier]

welp fuck

[lusty wasp]

But could be fun

If the player character becomes next Warchief!

[unborn glacier]

No

[lusty wasp]

Said fun

Not "good"

[pulsar iris]

not even fun i think

[zealous basalt]

You are aware

That would means you are forced to be killed every day by people looking for the archive right

Or being soloed by rextron

[lusty wasp]

Feel that everyday because for some reason I'm picking flowers in Nazjatar, shooing Alliance and then I'm bountied

(and then dead)

[zealous basalt]

...

Uh huh

[lusty wasp]

(and i'm really bad at pvp)

teheee

anyway I love this game and I will always do

I'm angry because I spent sooooo much on Sylvanas toys and clothes

[unborn glacier]

I'm mad about the mistreatment of such a beloved character

[tropic trail]

why?

I have also some and I dont regret it

only because she dont gives a fuck about the horde I should now abondon her?=

[unborn glacier]

I do not regret all my Sylvanas swag

[tropic trail]

like thats not a new news at all

[unborn glacier]

And never will regret it

[tropic trail]

Forsaken never cared about the Horde, since vanilla

[pulsar iris]

that true

[unborn glacier]

I'm more hurt that they have her abandon the Forsaken

[pulsar iris]

her sole reason was to kill arthas

[tropic trail]

well but that was also something that clear it has to happen. sure it sucks, but the Forsaken is a playable race

and if Sylvanas has to leave the horde

[lusty wasp]

Forsaken actually developed some emotions

[tropic trail]

then also the forsaken

[lusty wasp]

So they cared a bit

[ionic terrace]

there's my girl

[lusty wasp]

That's kinda sad that blood elves were like "yeah she may saved us in the past but now no mercy for her"

And that's what I am talking about

[pulsar iris]

i mean she wanted to kill everyone

[lusty wasp]

No "I follow the Light path yet I live because of Sylvanas and that hurt me"

[pulsar iris]

"she saved us, now let her kill us"

[lusty wasp]

Nah of course not and they had to fight but there's no regret, no emotions, no "she was our friend"

[ionic terrace]

aw that's cute

Zekhan is at the orphanage

[unborn glacier]

xD

[sudden oak]

proceeds to whistle away wearing a shirt with "Glory to the Banshee Queen"

[lusty wasp]

I have a t-shirt "Sylvanas did nothing wrong"

I shit you not :D Bought it on aliexpress

[unborn glacier]

I have several shirts and sweaters that have her portrait reading "God save the Queen"

[sudden oak]

okay I need one of those

I need several of those

[pulsar iris]

i need a "garrosh did nothing wrong"

[lusty wasp]

Actually I met Christie Golden with that t-shirt

[tropic trail]

Liadrin refers here to Nzoth

[lusty wasp]

She loved it

[pulsar iris]

you had the chance to stop her

[lusty wasp]

Well I had like 1 minute for an autograph and besides she's only writing, not creating the story

Someone in Blizzard comes to an idea "yeah we need evil sylvanas golden write dialogues with evil sylvanas" and she do

does*

[dense plover]

^

i didnt think it was this

[ionic terrace]

heck, knew I should have waited to unlock zandalari

[dense plover]

but i looked it up

and it is

[unborn glacier]

If you think Golden had no hand in it other than just writing it, then I have land in Louisiana TO SELL YOU.

[dense plover]

why, to see if the scenario changed?