beta-ptr-spoilers

[dense plover]

probably further back too

[feral solstice]

in eu is 238K right now

[uncut lintel]

damnn

[terse patrol]

Good time to buy in on the EU sounds like

[feral solstice]

has gone since classic came out from 180 to 238K

[dense plover]

yeah, in NA flux has been 10k over a 24 hours period

[feral solstice]

yup got myself 4 yesterday 😛

[dense plover]

for like 3 weeks at least

its just that it didnt go back down this week

so its still doing the 10k flux

but starting at 170 instead of 160

[tropic trail]

is there a steramer who will stream the Horde war campaign? I see only alliance filth

[dense plover]

classic did cause the price to go permanently up tho

30k

[feral solstice]

no idea @tropic trail, NA gets it today...so hopefully we will spoile ourself with both campaings and videos 😄

[zinc zealot]

grabs popcorn and waits for the cinematics

[restive pasture]

I hope the cinematics get put up on YouTube as soon as the patch drops/servers come back up, I'm stuck at work

[tropic trail]

i dont think cinematics will be up as soon as servers come up..

[terse patrol]

Usually someone uploads them before Blizz does

[green laurel]

i'm not going to look at them, gonna see if I cant get to them in game before spoilering

for the first time in my life

[vernal juniper]

server almost up

the server list is popped

looking at streaming

[green laurel]

peeps said that 30 mins ago i think

[vernal juniper]

kk

[green laurel]

who knows

[restive pasture]

I would be utterly shocked if they came back up this early.

[uncut lintel]

might go take a nap and come check later im dying

[green laurel]

somebody @ me if theyre up lol

[uncut lintel]

same plz

[dense plover]

1-2 hours probably

[tropic trail]

lets be optimistic and say max 1h 👀

[forest sphinx]

I'm going to play some Classic while I wait I think

[lusty wasp]

Spooilllers?

[green laurel]

no spoilers yet sorry

[storm marsh]

There are streamers on twitch ready? Hyped at work rn

[green laurel]

so when the expac comes out who wants to get into a raid group with my level 60 and do some AQ40

[tropic trail]

id say maybe at 9 AM PDT servers will be up?

[green laurel]

damn i just did what other people do that annoys me slightly is calling the patch an expansion

[lusty wasp]

i hope this won't ruin my only perfect day in this year

[uncut lintel]

ive never heard someone call a patch an xpac

[sullen dawn]

Non-native English speakers do it sometimes

[green laurel]

I have lol many times, it's not like i get hung up over it its just like a minor thing i'd say is a mistake

[lusty wasp]

I'm non-native and this is patch for me

[fickle stag]

where is ittttttttttt

show me the cinematic

mrmlrlglglggl

[green laurel]

calm down sir ur developing murloc rage

[fickle stag]

mrlglg 😦

if u find a link, link it here

when u find

[tropic trail]

servers are still not up no cinematic

[fickle stag]

mrlglglgl roar

[green laurel]

oh no hes at stage two murloc/beast rage

[uncut lintel]

i eat murlocs

[green laurel]

this is critical

[sullen dawn]

Maybe that's the origin story for murlocs

They waited too long for cinematic and mutated into raging fish people

[green laurel]

y'know i never thought about the origins of murlocs before

but now ur gonna make me go look up some wiki page

[uncut vault]

They’re not getting the cinematics instantly

Chances are it’ll be the same as 8.2

Where you need to do the quests to get the encryption key

[terse patrol]

Ye, we’ll have to wait for people to do the quests

[green laurel]

you should all just take my pact and avoid watching them until you see them in game >:]

[terse patrol]

(Post screens and stuff from the quests when you do them pls.)

[hasty elbow]

I hope the war campaigns won't timegated this time. 😦

[green laurel]

me tooooo

[dense plover]

there is no reason to timegate

AP knowledge ends next week

[sullen dawn]

I'm waiting tj

[dense plover]

8.3 is not soon

[sullen dawn]

Going to bed early and playing before work

8.3 is like jan

[green laurel]

we dont know 8.3 could be soon

[uncut lintel]

lol k

[sullen dawn]

I seriously doubt it

Unless you consider 3 months soon

[upper remnant]

As long as there is no mission table time gate

[green laurel]

it's all a very weird situation, you're probably right

but the situation we have is it feels like at the same time this blizzcon should be showing 9.0 right?

so the time frame here is crowded

[tropic plover]

so the cinematics are available on NA already right?

[dense plover]

no

[upper remnant]

They could drop 8.3 PTR around Blizzcon like they did for 7.3

[dense plover]

NA isnt up

8.3 stream should be in midoctober

with ptr right around then

[green laurel]

thats what im saying march

[dense plover]

god no

thats WAY too long

december or january

[green laurel]

??? what

[dense plover]

6 months between raids

Naz raid come out in July

[green laurel]

peach i think theres a misunderstanding

[dense plover]

oh

you meant march as the person above

srorry

I thought you meant the month

XD

[upper remnant]

😆

[green laurel]

OH I DIDNT EVEN

i didnt even think you thought i said march

[uncut lintel]

xD

[zealous basalt]

NA

still down

[uncut lintel]

-cries inside-

[green laurel]

i thought you didnt know when blizzcon was

[reef eagle]

what does WOONS mean?

[green laurel]

wounds

it sounds like magnis says WOONS when hes talking about azerites wounds for world quests

[reef eagle]

im a big brain boy

ty lol

[restive pasture]

Lol

[green laurel]

its a bigger meme cause everyone does those quests for the difficult to get champions of azeroth rep

[vernal juniper]

imagine ho many people will cry

cause they cant get the mount

bee mount

at start

[green laurel]

i got my crying done for that already

[dense plover]

i mean

they can

they just gotta grind

[green laurel]

horde cant get it

[dense plover]

probably 2 weeks if you really try

[vernal juniper]

they need prequests

to be able to grind

[dense plover]

horde can use it tho

same as kuafon

unless they changed something

[green laurel]

can they? i thot it was blocked

[dense plover]

i believe they changed it at some point

[wheat walrus]

In how much time does the patch drop?

[green laurel]

i thought it was an alliance only thing but u might be right

[dense plover]

and if they didnt itll probably get hotfixed

today

we dont know

[wheat walrus]

Im eu waiting for info

[dense plover]

tomorrow

EU gets it a day after NA

[wheat walrus]

I know mate

[green laurel]

they just meant NA cause they just want info

[wheat walrus]

Asking about america

[dense plover]

we dont know

today

next 6.5 hours

[wheat walrus]

Alright

[green laurel]

server list is up so could be any second

[tropic trail]

server list hasa been up for more than an hour

[green laurel]

its also been up for the past hour so who knows!!!!!!

[tropic trail]

so maybe servers come up at the same time as servers came up with 8.2

[terse patrol]

I await the patch with my baby boy.

[vocal gulch]

aww

[fickle stag]

send her to blizzard

to scratch them

[storm marsh]

Is there a soul that could tag me as soon as realms go up, I wanna watch an episode or two on netflix

[ancient jasper]

Baby boy.. Her.. 🤔

[fickle stag]

5 euro stoneheart

[terse patrol]

K

[fickle stag]

:3

[green laurel]

okay so i looked up the origins of murlocs and it says that brann bronzebeard says they are decendants of Gorlorcs, which themselves are possibly decendents of a frog Wild-God

[storm marsh]

😏

[terse patrol]

His name is Mr. Paws. Because he likes to touch everything.

[fickle stag]

LF suggar daddy in wow

:3

[dark furnace]

Why do EU get it after America though?

[green laurel]

I dont see how it could be a frog wild god though cause murlocs and gorlorcs both originate from the deep sea

and frogs arent deep sea creatures

[fickle stag]

pls pls pls let something bad happen to sylvnaaaaaaaas!! just only to shut horde months!!!

mouths

[unborn glacier]

O.o

[storm marsh]

I hope not

[green laurel]

ironic since ive only ever heard alliance players complain about it

nonstop

[storm marsh]

For the dark lady

And im alliance

[tropic trail]

👀

means probably nothing but still

[green laurel]

loyalist route maybe gets more love

[tropic trail]

I hope so, we got the "play along" card the last patches

[sullen dawn]

Well it's the end of the campaign so there best be some payoff

[unborn glacier]

Better be good.

[sullen dawn]

I did war campaign 3 times in hope for some payoff (horde, alliance, loyalist)

[golden sigil]

Any predictions on who dies?

Genn, Saurfang imho?

[sullen dawn]

Saurfang, one of the proudmoores

[tropic trail]

I say Saurfang dies

[golden sigil]

Hopefully we get an epic cinematic to send him farewell

[sullen dawn]

Genn should be be alive until 8.3 at least

[tropic trail]

while Zappy boy taking his necklace

[uncut lintel]

zappy boi is best troll

[fickle stag]

all sylvanas valkyries dies

and she left alone

[tropic trail]

then Saurfang says the same line Zappy said to him: The Horde, is all we have

[fickle stag]

and scared

[green laurel]

I was skeptical of sylvanas' actions at first but after having to listen to night elves complain for a year Im starting to think she had the right idea

[golden sigil]

I'd like that scenario tbh.

[uncut vault]

Saurfang dying is basically a guarantee

The cinematic of him giving his necklace to zekhan is already in my head

[golden sigil]

Yeah, but I'm expecting a twist of some kind or another, idk

[terse patrol]

Ye, Saurfang’s a dead man walking

[unborn glacier]

"Remember how we said the Burning of Teldrassil would be a surprise and it, predictably turned out to be Sylvanas? Well, we kept saying it's not MoP 2.0 but.... HERE COMES THE ELECTRIC BOOGALOO!"

This is what I expect.

[tropic trail]

i hope Nathanos & Doggo die :p

[fickle stag]

ye nathanos dies to save

sylvanas

[foggy abyss]

I don't

[fickle stag]

that works too for me

:p

[tropic trail]

lol

[foggy abyss]

I like Nathanos

[golden sigil]

Nathanos is long overdue but doubt they'll kill him

[uncut lintel]

D: nathanos

[pulsar iris]

never kill nathanos pls

[golden sigil]

How...

[uncut lintel]

nathanos cant die hes my baby

[zealous basalt]

I just hope that as alliance we cna see the cinematics

[pulsar iris]

i wuv him

[uncut lintel]

i totally dont have a crush on him

[tropic trail]

Nathanos is bae

[fickle stag]

are u horde sadomasochists? or something ?:P u dont want nathanos dead?

dont u remember who he was talking

to u

?

😛

[foggy abyss]

Bring human forsakens in the horde

[pulsar iris]

i like his character. he reminds me of one of my rp characters

[tropic trail]

@zealous basalt for sure we will be able to

[fickle stag]

how*

[green laurel]

the lich king is gonna kill zappy boi and thats what is gonna have saurfang go super saiyan

[uncut vault]

Nathanos is much more likely to become Sylvanas’ proxy forsaken leader whole she leaves to do stuff, than die

[fickle stag]

if npc could make ena emote

he would have spit on u hahah

[tropic trail]

I like Nathanos, hes a fresh variety to the standard boring bootlicking characters

[sullen dawn]

Nathanos is the worst character in the game

[fickle stag]

so... what happened and US server fell ?:P

[terse patrol]

Wot

[unborn glacier]

@fickle stag hoes mad

[pulsar iris]

you are the worst character in game 😠

[uncut lintel]

toby is mean

[terse patrol]

Nathanos is literally a boot licker tho

@tropic trail

[green laurel]

actually what if the lich king threatens zappy bois life, which then brings about a saurfang moment where he feels like hes not going to let his son die once more, and sacrifices himself to save zappy

[tropic trail]

well he dont licks my boots

so I dont care

[pulsar iris]

@green laurel yes

[green laurel]

that'd be pretty damn great

would bring it full circle for saurfang in a way

lots of emotion behind that as well

: ' )

wheres my writing credit blizz

[pulsar iris]

at blizzcon

you will see your name at the panels

[green laurel]

gr8 thanks

your dad works at blizzard right

[pulsar iris]

ofc

[green laurel]

sweet

[dense plover]

woah woah

im the one who wrote the naz cinematic

[pulsar iris]

he's the game director

[green laurel]

peach did in fact write the eternal palace raid and nazj storyline

[unborn glacier]

Lol

[zealous basalt]

Is your dad TheLegend27?

[dense plover]

this is from april 2019

before we knew about the cinematic

[tropic trail]

UP

[uncut lintel]

AEVESR

SERVERS UP

[dense plover]

but technically from before

and just to reiterate about how good I was
"i mean, ive said my prediction for 8.1 raid cinematic intro thing before
big naval battle above the waves between Zandalar and Kul Tiras. Azshara begins to narrate, camera pans down "We have been waiting to claim what is ours. While you were fighting on the surface, we plotted beneath the waves. Now it is time for Nazjatar to Rise!" - island is raised from the sea showing the glorious city of nazjatar made of pearls and azerite and coral. "You have faced my wrath and pride, now you will die!" - patch title plays "Rise of Nazjatar"
this would probably be built up with some kind of 0.5 patch that has us go to a new dungeon and fight some naga and then get upset that the alliancce got something.
eventually we get a quest to do a ship battle"
i was off by a patch
and flipped the name a bit
and the sea opens instead of lifting up
but the general concept of a sea battle intro was right
¯_(ツ)_/¯

[zealous basalt]

UP

[forest sphinx]

Servers are up

[green laurel]

UP

[foggy abyss]

Towellie is streaming it

Alliance side

[green laurel]

im out of this channel by bois

bye*

[zealous basalt]

GO LADS GO GO

[fickle stag]

gogogo we need cinematic

[pulsar iris]

i'm so glad i have at least 10 more hours of work + class before can think about playing wow again

i'll be able to watch cinematics at class probably

[mystic heart]

i see new cinematic

[foggy abyss]

CINEMATIC

[unborn glacier]

@dense plover I like your idea of Rise of Azshara so much more than what we got

[zealous basalt]

shhh

[fickle stag]

i hope wowhead or something will upload it about NOW

-.-

[hasty tendon]

Give them a moment to do the quests and get the encryption key

[zealous basalt]

okay

war campaign is first

[pulsar iris]

GO MAK

[terse patrol]

wtf is happening

[zealous basalt]

CINEMATIC FIRST

[terse patrol]

reeee

[pulsar iris]

we need like

[tropic trail]

Zappy Boi!

[pulsar iris]

1 print each frame

[hasty elbow]

reeeeeeeeeeeeee

[sullen dawn]

Bye

[pulsar iris]

can do mak?

[zealous basalt]

LONG AF

[terse patrol]

REEEEEE

[uncut lintel]

IM SCREAMING

[pulsar iris]

WAIT

[terse patrol]

dont post screens of the cinematic please

[tropic trail]

Razor Hill!? UHHH

[pulsar iris]

WHAT SAURFANG SAID?

[zealous basalt]

GODS

SAURFAING

[uncut lintel]

OMG

[foggy abyss]

SHIT

[uncut lintel]

SAURFANG

[terse patrol]

I’d prefer to watch it.

[foggy abyss]

thatr was AMZAING

[zealous basalt]

SAID HIS HORDE IS WHAT SYLVANAS IS DOING

[pulsar iris]

WHAT DID HE SAY

[foggy abyss]

@terse patrol you're in the spoilers channel

[zealous basalt]

OH GOD

[unborn glacier]

PLEASE give full cinematic

[terse patrol]

i guess. Someone ping me when the cinematic is uploaded.

[zealous basalt]

HE ADMITTED IT

[unborn glacier]

Not just screenshots

[foggy abyss]

SoO OMEGALUL

[mystic heart]

we have another cinematic

guys

[pulsar iris]

squishei streamed it

WHERE IS THE CLIP

[zealous basalt]

THERE WON'T BE PEACE BETWEEN BOTH

[foggy abyss]

MANDUIN

[unborn glacier]

Give me the full cinematic, damnit

[zealous basalt]

ALLIANCE + HORDE?!

Ahhhh

AHHHH

THAT WAS EPIC

[unborn glacier]

Enough pls

XD

[zealous basalt]

everyone died

[lusty wasp]

Lol what

[unborn glacier]

Give us the cinematic, stop fangirling

[lusty wasp]

No more factions?

[tropic trail]

wtf

[unborn glacier]

I want to see this

[tropic trail]

did happen

[zealous basalt]

Indeed

[unborn glacier]

Someone give us a clip

[zealous basalt]

SoO

...

Rest in peace Tyrande

[unborn glacier]

Omg

[zealous basalt]

She isn't joining

[lusty wasp]

???

[tropic trail]

@mystic heart what cinematic?

[lusty wasp]

Oh

[zealous basalt]

Anduin is afraid the revenge has consumed her

[pulsar iris]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/485822539

[mystic heart]

i can't open another cinematic

[unborn glacier]

@zealous basalt Stop. You're actually annoying xD

@pulsar iris TY!

[zealous basalt]

2 bad

i'd share screens

but mine is in esp

[pulsar iris]

BREAKING

THE CYCLE

MERGED FACTION HYPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[tropic trail]

What maintenance done?

[pulsar iris]

yep

game on

cinematics live

[tropic trail]

Oh shit

[pulsar iris]

i sent link above

[tropic trail]

oh my the 2nd cinematic

[zealous basalt]

My heart is going to stop

[mystic heart]

cinematic

guys

https://www.twitch.tv/squishei

[tropic trail]

Saurfang is dueling her..

he is going to die

[dark furnace]

Hopefully

[foggy abyss]

Shit

[dark furnace]

Look at that scenery

[dense plover]

Ji is helping defend thunderbluff

[zealous basalt]

You are loyalist mrpéch

[foggy abyss]

WHAT

[zealous basalt]

?

Ah i saw

[zealous basalt]

Ji withdraws from battle

[tropic trail]

RIP Saurfang

[dark furnace]

Ez clap

[tropic trail]

and Sylvanas is gone

[uncut lintel]

OOOF

[foggy abyss]

Pog

"The Horde is nothing"

Well jesus

[tropic trail]

everyone hates her

[foggy abyss]

F

[dark furnace]

YES

[foggy abyss]

Lmao they litteraly just ruined Sylvanas even more

In a sentence

[zealous basalt]

Ohh

[forest sphinx]

I called this coming

[foggy abyss]

That was terrible, I mean

[unborn glacier]

@foggy abyss Agreed

[foggy abyss]

It was Cool

it looked amazing

But legit

Sylvanas proved to be trash

I'm so disapointed

I thought Sylvanas's plan would be deeper than that

[unborn glacier]

They just fully destroyed my favorite character in WoW

[foggy abyss]

Yeah

[dense plover]

oh

now im pissed

who wrote this

[tropic trail]

new title Veteran of the Fourth War

[unborn glacier]

This is pure garbage

[dense plover]

Shes just evil and thats it?

bullshit

[foggy abyss]

Yeah

It's

[dense plover]

thats lame

[foggy abyss]

pure BS

[dense plover]

thats fucking lame

[uncut lintel]

THIS IS BS

[lament fjord]

Well, it's Sylvanas, it's not like she was anything different before, she just had less power.

[uncut lintel]

MY GOD

[dark furnace]

There's probably more

[unborn glacier]

They turned such an awesome character into a pure villian

[foggy abyss]

There

she's just evil

Horde bad

[uncut lintel]

NOOO SHIT IM A CRY

[foggy abyss]

It's trash

[uncut lintel]

IMA GONNA SOBB

[foggy abyss]

Christie damn Golden

[unborn glacier]

This is Goldens writing

[foggy abyss]

Exactly

Making Horde bad

For no reasons

[unborn glacier]

Fuck Christie Golden

[foggy abyss]

Saurfang had a cool scene but his death sucked

[zealous basalt]

Uhhh she messed

[tropic trail]

dude that was fucking awesome

Mak gora

[foggy abyss]

That was trash

[tropic trail]

damn man

she played him like hes low lvl

I liked that

[foggy abyss]

Sylvanas cheated

Called the horde a pawn in front of everyone

and boom

that's it

[dark furnace]

Of course she did

[foggy abyss]

wtf

[uncut lintel]

SHITTT

[dark furnace]

Why wouldnt she cheat

[tropic trail]

well we won?

[dense plover]

thats not cheating

[foggy abyss]

She used magic

[tropic trail]

that was not cheating

[dense plover]

there are no rules other than one on one

[lusty wasp]

that's... disappointing

[dense plover]

youre allowed to use magic

[unborn glacier]

Fuck golden so much

[dark furnace]

Oh thats right sorry then

[tropic trail]

man that was really cool

[dark furnace]

In that case he got rekt

[lusty wasp]

Golden is only writing

[dense plover]

i mean

the writing was good

[lusty wasp]

She's not responsible for the plot

[forest sphinx]

The writing was fantastic!

[dense plover]

character decisions, not so much

[lusty wasp]

I mean... what the fuck?

[dense plover]

god I swear if she is working for nzoth

[lusty wasp]

Why is Sylvanas doing this? Why?

I mean why?

[dense plover]

i dont know

[foggy abyss]

Either way

[lusty wasp]

She left Forsaken

[foggy abyss]

cheating or not

that was golden's writing

[dense plover]

she never cared for the forsaken

she used them as a shield

[foggy abyss]

That's trash

I thought she would give her life to the forsaken or shit

[dense plover]

no it wasnt

[foggy abyss]

But no

[dense plover]

no she wouldnt

[foggy abyss]

She legit was just bad for no reasons

[dense plover]

are you an idiot?

[dark furnace]

There will be more

[foggy abyss]

Lad i've been respectin' ye

[dense plover]

she has never been one to give her life

[dark furnace]

The story is not over

[foggy abyss]

Be respectful

[dense plover]

like, dude

she literally has called them her shield

multiple times

past and present

she only cares about them when it benefits her

and it no longer does

[lament fjord]

So much things from the book now make sense...

[lusty wasp]

Sigh

[zealous basalt]

She messed it up so bad

[dense plover]

sylvanas clearly has a plan

if they make her the final raid boss working for nzoth

jesus christ

thats the definition of SoO 2.0

[uncut lintel]

O-O this is this is this is like omg

[zealous basalt]

and i thought i was able to fly over orgrimmar

[foggy abyss]

I'm really disapointed

[zealous basalt]

i got rekt

Im not, this is how i wanted things to play out

[dense plover]

im not disappointed as much as angry

everything else was great

but sylvanas' decision is confusing

it makes no sense

at least not currently

[tropic trail]

we will see more

[dense plover]

and we still have no idea wtf 8.3 is

[tropic trail]

yea

[dense plover]

maybe there is more wrathion stuff unlocked?

[tropic trail]

adn where the fuck is nathanos

[dense plover]

ill play that next

who knows

he took the dagger and just walked off

[zealous basalt]

Saurfang IS PISSED

I mean

Genn

[dense plover]

this explains why they removed sylvanas and saurfang from the allied race buildings

[smoky mural]

nOt MoP 2.0 bTw

[lament fjord]

it still isn't tho

[zealous basalt]

It's not

[dense plover]

whos in charge of the horde now?

[dark furnace]

Probably no one

At least until the next patch

Or if something more happens

[zinc zealot]

Does anyone have a link to the second cinematic?

[tropic trail]

we dont know who is in charge of the horde.. lol

[zealous basalt]

Nothing in Horde side?

What about loyalist side?

[green laurel]

holy shit

is sylvanas ousted then?

[lusty wasp]

Yeah another evil warchief

[hasty tendon]

So wait. Was that the unifying point that ties the Loyalists and rebels together? Sylvanas going "I don't need you" to her loyalists?

[zealous basalt]

OSHIT

[lusty wasp]

Yayyy

[zealous basalt]

THIS AINT' DONE

ALLIANCE GUYS

[lusty wasp]

???

[green laurel]

?????

[foggy abyss]

Loyalist side is apparently different

[lusty wasp]

Cant see it now

[zealous basalt]

now enters

Calia menethil

[lusty wasp]

...

[dense plover]

the fuck?

so alliance sees her?

[lusty wasp]

Yayyyy

[zealous basalt]

Yes

[terse patrol]

oof

[foggy abyss]

Oh curious about that

[zealous basalt]

Jaina sends us to see her brother that was with Calia now

[dense plover]

guess ill need to run this on the alliance side

or watch a video

same with loyalist side

[zealous basalt]

Also

Yay

[green laurel]

that was so sick

[zealous basalt]

Im veteran of the fourth war now

[foggy abyss]

Loyalist is on Wowhead's stream ATM

[green laurel]

i never realized how much i love seeing sylvanas get dunked on

[foggy abyss]

it has one thing different

the Quest is gave by Nathanos

[lusty wasp]

Oh....... Wow :/

[dense plover]

uh

theres no wrathion questline...

guess there is some timegating

[tropic trail]

Peach its there

[dense plover]

it is?

[zealous basalt]

hya

[tropic trail]

the ebonhorn one?

[dense plover]

yeah....Im at the forge

its not

[tropic trail]

what faction are you?

[dense plover]

horde

[tropic trail]

uhm

not sure where taht oone is

[dense plover]

does it need a specific neck ilvl?

[tropic trail]

i know that ally one

[green laurel]

so uh does sylvanas just have nobody now?

[zealous basalt]

ooof

[dense plover]

might be at the port

[tropic trail]

is on Boralus

[zealous basalt]

what the fuck

[dense plover]

wtf?

whats the intro for her?

[zealous basalt]

she has an echo

[dense plover]

what lvl neck are you?

[tropic trail]

61

[foggy abyss]

Oh shit

[zealous basalt]

oh

rip

i think this part is timegated

[tropic trail]

what part?

[zealous basalt]

After the meeting with Calia and Derek

[tropic trail]

oh yeah

probably

[zealous basalt]

But

big hint

Jaina said there wre more like derek that might need the help of Calia

[dense plover]

horde gets to see

[lusty wasp]

Ugh

[dense plover]

where does horde pick up wrathion quest tho?

i cant find it....

[zealous basalt]

Uhh

it should be after that quest

[dense plover]

oh

its linear?

huh

[zealous basalt]

I just got it

[dense plover]

ok

good to know

[flint meteor]

hmm

[tropic trail]

question is where did Sylvanas go..

[zealous basalt]

alabama

[flint meteor]

so she gonna be a raid boss

[tropic trail]

time to wait for theory vids lmao

[zealous basalt]

We don't know if she is going to be a raid boss

for what she said she is just going to be a background character

Or in the worst of the cases, just a side thing between Sylv and Genn

[dense plover]

she might not even appear for the rest of the expac

[foggy abyss]

@tropic trail Maybe we'll know after the loyalist quests

[dense plover]

more likely we will find out in 8.3

[tropic trail]

i feel that even loyalist will hate Sylvanas?

after she said that they are nothing

[modest acorn]

from the last cinematic that is kinda what i got from it too

it is the reason the undead lady opened the gate

[zealous basalt]

You could feel the heart breaking of those horde loyalists and sylvanas fanatics

[dense plover]

still no horde quest for wrathion I can see

[zealous basalt]

I was like "oh...you shouldn't"

Do you have the essences

[dense plover]

yes?

[terse patrol]

THE HORDE IS NOTHING

[dense plover]

im lvl 57

[zealous basalt]

weird

relog?

[green laurel]

okay so sylvanas is definitely getting some void power from somewhere

[dense plover]

ill try

we dont know if thats void or shadow

[flint meteor]

itsnot void

[modest acorn]

Eh i think that is just her shadow magic

[dense plover]

probably shadow

[flint meteor]

prob shadow

imo

[dense plover]

otherwise they couldve detected it

[zealous basalt]

Or shadow in its pure form

[dense plover]

void magic is pretty well known

[modest acorn]

her banshie magic

[green laurel]

oh I got it mixed

ur right

[flint meteor]

but yea she alone now with nathanos basicaly

[zealous basalt]

Looked like shadow school

[dense plover]

which could actually mean shadowlands is somehow going to be a thing

[green laurel]

okay i know ur gonna hate to say it

[zealous basalt]

Probably shadow mixed

[meager zodiac]

that was terrible and vile

[dense plover]

IF we deal with nzoth in 8.3

[terse patrol]

So, Tyrande isn’t answering Alliance missives.

[green laurel]

shadow lands is still in the picture now

[modest acorn]

Speaking of nathanos where does he go?

[dense plover]

yeah i actually agree now

[zealous basalt]

Yep

[dense plover]

i dont think the leaks are legit

but its grown slightly as a possibility

[zealous basalt]

This smell bad

For tyrande

[dense plover]

i still hope they wait and do a black empire expac

[flint meteor]

real question now is, is she working for nzoth in a deal or just corrupted

[green laurel]

if you read the leak it says both the horde and alliance defend thunderbluff and that they are going to need to literally release a comic to explain how sylvanas somehow managed to take stormwind

[meager zodiac]

of course it does, tyrande is getting ruined

[green laurel]

which would make sense

[dense plover]

no way is she working with nzoth

that was shadow, not void

[terse patrol]

https://i.gyazo.com/f99d8d466c03a2ac8f39922d6bc5469e.png
https://gyazo.com/7162c439cc09cb5feb52f9e52bc6a6f2

[zealous basalt]

I think that was

[green laurel]

since now we have no clue how on earth she could gather enough strength to take stormwind

[zealous basalt]

The side effect Maiev warned us about

[flint meteor]

nzoth left the blade for her

indirectly

[meager zodiac]

the effects were on the ritual

not on the form

she said the ritual was dangerous, not the form

[dense plover]

makore, what lvl neck are you?

[modest acorn]

actually the leaks even make more sense now, the horde and alliance meet in the harbor and then sylvannas shows up with the undead forces, with Tyrande

[zealous basalt]

66

[meager zodiac]

since she left for darkshore?

that is a long time ago lol

[dense plover]

who here has the wrathion quest?

[zealous basalt]

She is being a salty bitch

[flint meteor]

eh i think she gonna be indeed a boss in 8.3 but not like the leak says

[green laurel]

the leak says there will be a comic to explain how she gathers forces to take stormwind, and now I think in context of that cinematic, it will be the aftermath of that fight

[tropic trail]

Why would she be with Tyrande?

[green laurel]

its going to be sylvanas going to speak to helya for support cause she just got her throne taken

[modest acorn]

Because the Moon warrior BS corrupts her

[zealous basalt]

I mean

[foggy abyss]

Sylvanas basically became Gul'dan

[zealous basalt]

for a form called "Tool of vengeance"

[tropic trail]

Yeah but it’s not going to make her side with the Banshe Queen

[zealous basalt]

that's really suitable

[terse patrol]

So, where is the Thunder Bluff attack we were told was happening?

[tropic trail]

It’s going to make her go nuts

[flint meteor]

no lol tyrande aint corrupted imo wtf she aint siding with sylvanas, she wants to kill her

[tropic trail]

Yeah like what

[zealous basalt]

I don't think she aint going to side with Sylvanas

[modest acorn]

If the Moon Warrior = Heyla magic she might be under her control

[green laurel]

@terse patrol what?

[zealous basalt]

but who else of the alliance is filled with anger towards Sylvanas just like Tyrande

[meager zodiac]

why is heyla related to elune?

like what?

[zealous basalt]

Genn

[meager zodiac]

where is the coorelation?

[terse patrol]

By the “leak.”

[zealous basalt]

I think those two are going to hunt Sylvanas now

[meager zodiac]

"leak" my ass

[modest acorn]

It might not be elune that she summoned

[foggy abyss]

Oh

[green laurel]

lol why would that be here now

[meager zodiac]

so making a black moon

is not elune

[foggy abyss]

Sylvanas is at the Windrunner Spire

[meager zodiac]

okay sure thing

[green laurel]

it literally states thats the context of the 8.3 raid

[zealous basalt]

Uh

[meager zodiac]

and empowering night elves with a moonwell

[modest acorn]

Loyalist side has more 😮

[green laurel]

is the raid out yet now?

[meager zodiac]

totaly helya

[zealous basalt]

The dark side of the moon

Is a part of a druid thing

its not void or shadow

[tropic trail]

They can’t write that she sides with the Banshee Queen it makes 0 sense

[meager zodiac]

shadow magic has been a part of elune for fuck load of time

[modest acorn]

Loyalist you meet with sylvannas it seems

[meager zodiac]

and if tyrande had any sort of control over the dead

[modest acorn]

after the events where she runs off

[meager zodiac]

how cant she stop the night elves being raised

[zealous basalt]

Yeah but what I try to say is

It's a natural thing of the moon

[tropic trail]

Honestly Tyrande is worried about her own people, it’s normal

[zealous basalt]

I don't think so because Shandris was in the fite

[tropic trail]

well so Saurfang got his honorable death he wanted..

[meager zodiac]

heyla : arcane titan turned into a death-water godess

[zealous basalt]

Well, i call hax

[meager zodiac]

people here : ITS TOTALTY ELUNE

[dense plover]

think you might need neck 60 to do wrathion quest

[tropic trail]

Not everyday you watch the people you loved burned alive in a tree guys

[dense plover]

and I dont have that....

[zealous basalt]

that was a dirty trick from sylv

[tropic trail]

peach ill see on my alt

[green laurel]

its literally helya

[modest acorn]

WELL THE FANFICS WERE RIGHT

[dense plover]

i mean, they werent

[flint meteor]

i dont feel bad for saurfang imo he got what he deserved

[green laurel]

they havent been wrong yet

[tropic trail]

Heal has enough power to seem like it’s Elaine?🤔

Hela*

Elune*

[meager zodiac]

"its literaly helya" why is elune helya

[zealous basalt]

i dont even

[storm marsh]

Thank god he's dead. Sylvie was awesome

[green laurel]

idk what ur talking about tbh with elune

[meager zodiac]

and the ritual existed in 10 k years ago

[tropic trail]

he was meant to die lol

[flint meteor]

i do feel bad for her calling horde shit but thats it

[modest acorn]

YUP

[tropic trail]

I highly doubt Helya can create a ritual that has been done in front of nightelves to fool them

[modest acorn]

The loyalist confirms souls = helya

[dark furnace]

Apparentely Sylvanas is feeding souls to someone

[modest acorn]

helya

[flint meteor]

whatever she doing is way bigger than the horde, a faction

[zealous basalt]

I think she didn't really mean it but was pissed that someone like saurfang touched her

[modest acorn]

jhgeadisfiyew jhff

AZSHARA?

[zealous basalt]

She defeated

[tropic trail]

Nah she said the horde is shit, she just lost her throne lol

[modest acorn]

HER BARGIN WITH ASZHARA

[tropic trail]

Sylvanas is old god corrupted

[foggy abyss]

Oh shit

[green laurel]

lmfao guys

lol what

[foggy abyss]

@tropic trail Not possible

[green laurel]

it says

shes feeding souls

[foggy abyss]

She's undead

[green laurel]

to helya?

[foggy abyss]

She can't be corrupted

[dark furnace]

Shadowlands not entirely deconfirmed?

[tropic trail]

forgot i havent done all the war campaign on my alt so cant checklol

Void undead exist lol

[modest acorn]

The loyalist Cinematic confirms sylvannas has been working with Azshara

[green laurel]

shadowlands was never deconfirmed

[tropic trail]

Shadowmoon valley

Even in WoTLK

[zealous basalt]

Uh

is it me or

[green laurel]

daniel what?

[zealous basalt]

they changed the damage numbers?

[tropic trail]

Undead are vulnerable to Saronite

[zealous basalt]

it doesn't have the ,

[flint meteor]

do they talk about souls in the loyalist side??

[zealous basalt]

and are more separated

[green laurel]

daniel what are you talking about

[tropic trail]

Without the lich king doninating their minds

[flint meteor]

@modest acorn

[modest acorn]

@green laurel The loyalist side confirms she has been working with Azshara

[green laurel]

IN WHAT WAY

[dark furnace]

Yeah, the war has been feeding souls to something

[dense plover]

what

no it doesnt

[modest acorn]

SHE LITERALLY SAYS IT

[tropic trail]

I’m just happy someone said the horde is shit because this expansion they have been little shitholes

Giving souls to Nzoth

[dark furnace]

Sylvanas says it in the cinematic

[green laurel]

fucking give me a quote my dude

[flint meteor]

LOL

[modest acorn]

She says my work with Azshara

[green laurel]

WHAAAHAAT

[modest acorn]

it will be on wowhead in a bit

[dense plover]

pic

[flint meteor]

holy shit

[tropic trail]

No she doesn’t

[modest acorn]

I just watched it

[green laurel]

that would be pretty fucking crazy

[zealous basalt]

Damn peach

He is more than a loyalist that you are

[dense plover]

yeah wrathion quest seems to require a specific neck lvl

[green laurel]

i need PROOF

[zealous basalt]

HA

[dense plover]

not a loyalist

[tropic trail]

Sylvanas worked with the old gods

[dense plover]

i play an undead brewmaster

[stiff vector]

@green laurel you'll get it

just not now

[tropic trail]

Time for tentacles

[dark furnace]

I can't clip it sorry

[zealous basalt]

take that

[tropic trail]

Sylvanas said she had a bargain with Azshara

[modest acorn]

@tropic trail It does not mean that! Azshara and Sylvannas could have some other plan

[tropic trail]

dude...

[zealous basalt]

BUT I THOUGHT THEY GOT RID OF THE REQUERIMENT?

[tropic trail]

thats kinda stupid

I mean

is she corrupted?

Nzoth is freed

[modest acorn]

@tropic trail THat is the quote

[tropic trail]

I know I saw it

[green laurel]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[tropic trail]

And literally MCs Azshara

He has that power

[flint meteor]

what if

[oak wraith]

Requirement for the War Campaign only, I think?

[flint meteor]

the deal with azshara was against nzoth

[zealous basalt]

No no

[green laurel]

what if sylvanas had azshara capture us to make us work together

[tropic trail]

Lol no

[green laurel]

🙂

[zealous basalt]

The neck level requeriment

[oak wraith]

Oh

[tropic trail]

Nzoth doesnt allow that sort of thing to happen

[flint meteor]

thats better than sylv actually working for nzoth man pls NOOO xDD

[tropic trail]

time to see cinematic reactions lol

[dense plover]

i think its just for the wrathion quest

[tropic trail]

Nzoth is a corrupting diety

[dense plover]

probably lvl 60

[zealous basalt]

HOW THE FUCK

[tropic trail]

Why would it be worst?

LMFAO

[uncut lintel]

lol rip

[green laurel]

okay so like

can anyone else confirm

it says that sylvanas made a deal with azshara

[silk rose]

i watched the cinematic on horde and it's not a thing lol

[zealous basalt]

see? the number thign changed

[tropic trail]

Why else would Thanos go to Nazjatar with an old god dagger?

[modest acorn]

@silk rose Which one did you watch? Loyalist or rebels?

[dark furnace]

Thanos 🤔

[green laurel]

god can anyone be not a troll for 2 seconds lol

[modest acorn]

I am not trolling

[tropic trail]

When she got her face slashed I was laughing at her reaction

Sorry, nothanos

[modest acorn]

I was watching the WoWhead stream when it happened.

[silk rose]

oh idk which i watched, i think i did rebels on this toon

[green laurel]

I liked it when sylvanas got dunked on by saurfang for failing so much

cause he was so right

[zealous basalt]

I screamed when Saurfang split the blade

[tropic trail]

LOL

[flint meteor]

just wait for the wowhead topics if should be up soon we will get it all

[green laurel]

she always fails at defeating hope

[tropic trail]

But yeah

She's old god corrupted

[green laurel]

no?

[tropic trail]

But that new magic she got

Being impaled on a spike of old god blood will do that to you

[dark furnace]

"Countless souls have been fed to the hungering darkness"

[modest acorn]

I dont think she is old god corrupted, i think her, Helya and Azshara are up to something

[green laurel]

shes being empowered by helya

[hasty elbow]

that new magic i wonder if it's from n'zoth 🤔

[tropic trail]

I didn't know Helya magic stopped being sea green

[modest acorn]

That i can agree with TJ

[tropic trail]

And became Void purple

[green laurel]

shes being empowered by helya and is going to now go whine to helya that she needs some sort of shadow troop support to take stormwind

cause she just got her ass beat and her toys taken away

shes gonna go wine to helya that she needs more

[tropic trail]

Shadowlands leak is false

Its already been proven

[green laurel]

how 🙂

[tropic trail]

War campaign just ended lol

[green laurel]

.....

[modest acorn]

That does not mean the leak is false

[green laurel]

do i really need to explain to this guy

[tropic trail]

The Horde and Alliance are at peace

They're not going to fight

[modest acorn]

If anything it makes more sense the "leaked" screenshot

All of the leaders of the alliance and horde are in SW

[glass chasm]

What a shit crap this campaign

[green laurel]

the leak literally says

[modest acorn]

Helya ships show up

[green laurel]

that the horde and alliance

work together

to defend thunder bluff

[tropic trail]

The only thing that supports it is a single blurb of Island Expedition lore about Helya

That's it

Everything else points to old gods

[zealous basalt]

@dense plover i detect we are going to get another upgrade to the heart

[green laurel]

you just said it was proven false

[dense plover]

probably

[green laurel]

tell me

how

[modest acorn]

And the whole legion thing with Sylv and helya

[tropic trail]

Nzoth is just chillin leave him be

[dense plover]

8.3 needs a system

[tropic trail]

The horrible shadowlands fanfiction isnt happening

[green laurel]

cmon dukkha

tell me how

you just said

it was disproven

[zealous basalt]

Nothing changes from PTR

[tropic trail]

Blizzard also doesnt use raids to lead into the next expansion solely

Among other things

[green laurel]

dukkha

you just said

it has been disproven

tell me how.

[tropic trail]

But people want their stupid fanfic-level leak to be true

[modest acorn]

Legion's raided lead into this expansion

[tropic trail]

Nevermind it was a 91 post thread on /v/ before it got jannied

[modest acorn]

literally it did

[silk rose]

the last one was like we're going to stormwind and we all die, it's disproven for the moment lol

[green laurel]

???

[modest acorn]

we would not be here if not for sargeras pushing a sword into azeoth

[glass chasm]

So - the final is, a person died, sylvanas ragequit and now sylvanas lost everything and the horde is under controll of Thrall/Anduin as a gigantiv 1 faction?`:D this it is? The great final of this campaign 😄 o dear 😄

[green laurel]

its not disproven

[tropic trail]

Death isn't a plot device

[green laurel]

dukkha ur just stating opinions

[modest acorn]

Death can be a plot device

[tropic trail]

It sounds awful

[modest acorn]

Sixth sense

[green laurel]

"death isnt a plot device" lol okay my dude

[flint meteor]

like i said i she her more working with helya with the death plot, and that magic she used now as a death power, and if the that souls dealing really is a thing in the loyalist side the leak doesnt look that much farfetched

[tropic trail]

It looks awful

It is awful

[modest acorn]

Death was the entire plot of Sixth Sense

[green laurel]

"death isnt a plot device" saurfang literally just died as a plot device

[tropic trail]

Sylvanas

wants to ensalve Nzoth

Imagine setting up all this old god stuff

[dark furnace]

Probably with the Priest knife

[tropic trail]

And then it's just

[modest acorn]

@tropic trail I like that idea

[tropic trail]

"Lol have stupid soul stuff."

[dark furnace]

That's what people were thinking it was going to be used for

[green laurel]

dukkha are you just mad because you think you dont like the concept?

[tropic trail]

I know I hate the concept

[green laurel]

you have no way of saying its disproven

[modest acorn]

that actually kinda confirms that

[green laurel]

your earlier claim was a lie because you personally dont want it to be true