drama is gonna happen related to sylvanas anyway
#beta-ptr-spoilers
languid yoke
calm plank
^
tropic trail
tweet posted on July 4
languid yoke
we haven't had any sylvanas since july 
sounds like something 8.2.5 / 8.3 related we haven't seen yet
war campaign missing and all that
ionic terrace
Sylvanas is drama incarnate
tropic trail
Why would the Alliance
Recieve lightforged undead
When we already have
A lightforged AR?
Why would we get the Forsaken AR?
sullen dawn
Technically the undead aren't light forged. They're just rezzed using the light
long blade
I really hope it isnt the case
sullen dawn
Pretty much exclusively because of Calia and before the storm though to answer your question
No more than that
long blade
Calia needs to die asap
uncut vault
Blizzard has set the precedent in the past with turning one unique thing into a messy allied race
with Alleria
sullen dawn
They haven't done anything with her yet tho. Bit harsh to attack her before shes get a chance
*she gets
uncut vault
her foundation was pretty terrible
terse patrol
Calia is a one off thing
uncut vault
theyre gonna need to do a lot of work to improve on BtS
terse patrol
Ah
Eh, I doubt it.
I still go back to that one Nzoth quote. “She is not the last, but the first.”
There’s only so many she’s.
sullen dawn
I don't think shes on off. She was a big part of before the storm, got a unique model, made anduin ponder about the future of the alliances perception with undead, got many of the forsaken excited about the possibility of reconnecting with their human side etc..
Plus ties into 'the light has made a deal with the enemy of all'
terse patrol
So ye, it seems pretty open and shut that she will lead light undead. Whether they’re playable is unknown.
sullen dawn
She certainly fills a role in the current direction of the story and while she might be the only one to be rezzed by the light I don't think that will remain to be the case
Yep. Absolutely no confirmation of an AR
Just something I kinda want, especially if they're very lorderon-y
Which the forsaken are not IG
terse patrol
She could just end up ruling a new Scarlet Crusade style faction and be against everyone, but it doesn’t fit with her character so far.
Who knows though.
sullen dawn
True
terse patrol
If they are playable, I do want a Scarlet aesthetic.
sullen dawn
Although the lorderon I pitched earlier on would actually be as fanatical as SC, so regardless I do think theres a sinister side to her
storm marsh
Didn't know PTR was up
sullen dawn
I think she'll help push the 'light ain't all good' view
uncut vault
theres still the possibility that she actually raises scarlets as her people
sullen dawn
Ironic for them ;)
storm marsh
Scarlet faction is legendary & iconic
uncut vault
because they fit the lordaeron bill, dont ruin the forsaken story, and are freed from their madness but not their light fanaticism
uncut vault
It shouldnt be any existing forsaken
if any do join her, they should not be lighted up
sullen dawn
No just IG NPCs who changed sides
No light infusions
Light rezzed would need to be freshly rezzed
uncut vault
And they shouldnt be wandering around Alliance areas, any that join Calia should still have to be in a safe place
otherwise it makes the entire point of the forsaken being forsaken moot
storm marsh
Yeah thats why scarlet are the least candidate for that, they would look like rotting undead
ionic terrace
Did they fix her new model being in Netherlight
sullen dawn
Well a lots happened since W3/classic
uncut vault
Like I said, they need to be very careful about how they go about Calia
the book sets up a lot of dangerous precedents for the forsaken story
sullen dawn
I think stormwind could probably accept things a bit more now
storm marsh
Imma check netherlight right now
sullen dawn
After legion etc..
uncut vault
she was fixed
ionic terrace
I would check but... you know... blizzard won't let me log in
uncut vault
but she has her new lines
ionic terrace
😠
uncut vault
Also, Stormwind isnt more accepting
even in BtS we see that
a vast majority of people called up refused to attend the meeting
because they didnt see their family as alive even if they were forsaken
even Anduin was afraid of the forsaken until he met Alonsus
terse patrol
Pre-Balnazzar Scarlets were fanatic, but not cruel and insane.
uncut vault
Stoneheart, they wouldnt be rotting
the Velonara datamining shows that, somehow, there are still living Scarlets
terse patrol
^
storm marsh
Well im interested in thaz
uncut vault
theyre now the Scarlet Brotherhood
storm marsh
Im saying for those that are currently dead, unless The Light would change their form too
uncut vault
jinx
well yeah, thats why I propose Scarlets
theyre not existing undead, so they dont retcon the "imperfect soul" stuff
my goal is just to avoid light forsaken at all costs
light undead from other sources, I can manage
terse patrol
I would like a faction comprised of undead Scarlets and the Desolate Council members.
storm marsh
Someone asked earlier if Calia's model is reversed back to Legion model so I'm confirm that it is.
Ing*
terse patrol
Imagine if they brought back famous Scarlet NPCs.
Like the Abbendis’.
Brigitte, her dad, and her daughter.
tropic trail
Calia is being set up to replace Sylvanas
zealous basalt
rekt
terse patrol
Herod.
storm marsh
At your side, Milady..
storm marsh
Yep
zealous basalt
Scarlet allied race
storm marsh
I'm dying to find out about all that thing with datamined scenario map and velonara
sullen dawn
wasn't that called 'Memento of the Dark Rangers'?
"Old hatred take a new form within the Scarlet Halls."
smoky mural
calia is a dumb idea by golden and alex
and forsaken fans also think she a dumb idea
sullen dawn
im a forsaken fan and think shes awesome
smoky mural
why
sullen dawn
posted early on why, but in summary because she represents the lordaeron of old, and potential for a darker type of human thematically
tropic trail
so basically she has no common with forsaken
zealous basalt
she has clear skin
tropic trail
thats why you like her
?
well not exactly true, the only commong thing Calia and the forsaken have is the Lordaeron history they had in the past
night swift
She cares more about herself than her people
sullen dawn
when i say dark, i mean thematically, not her skin colour lol
and i dont think shes like the forsaken, i was just replying that I'm a fan of the forsaken AND i like her
tropic trail
thats fair
sullen dawn
as makuta said forsaken fans dont like her
night swift
She might try to lead the forsaken on a new path
smoky mural
@tropic trail not even that as she didn't die at lordearon either
zealous basalt
psh
smoky mural
she didn't lose her will against arthas neither unlike most of the forsaken
zealous basalt
She is not a forsaken
smoky mural
yes
sullen dawn
no she is not
smoky mural
but the story team will try to make us think she is when she isn't
zealous basalt
They...have never
sullen dawn
I don't think there's any evidence to support that makuta
zealous basalt
There is not
he is just speculating
Hey one second
If they add lightforged undead...
Would it mean that Marcus...
tropic trail
@night swift she wont lead them. It is clear she will lead an AR race. which will most likely be some of the Forsaken undeads who want their life as Lordaerons back and will betray the horde forsakens
tropic trail
and also some of the stormwind people
sullen dawn
80% new AR, with like 20% coverts from forsaken who want to rejoin their old ways as best they can
tropic trail
because Im sure in 8.2.5 Sylvanas will be able to kill some of the stormwind citizens and raise them
zealous basalt
the first Steamy novel was about him with a forsaken
sullen dawn
the rezzed could be scarlets, those who died in the war, lorderons who were dead (uther maybe?), so on so forth
night swift
@tropic trail yeah thats kinda what I meant. She’ll obviously have the AR, and then there could be some forsaken that defect from Sylvanas and join her as well
tropic trail
exactly
storm marsh
I just want to see what are they doing with Derek Proudmoore
sullen dawn
option 1. betrays jaina and kills mum, option 2. joins calia?
sullen dawn
rip saurfang
smoky mural
Option 1 and kill jaina
sullen dawn
no jaina is awesome 😦 best character in wow
smoky mural
She already died before
smoky mural
Me sad
storm marsh
I wouldn't be surprised if his mind was twisted since he was brought back and Sylvanas is playing a game
sullen dawn
derek?
storm marsh
Yea
uncut vault
Yay
ionic terrace
@dense plover 😄
stiff vector
build is out
tropic trail
omg
a new build?
holly molly
probably that cinematic about that chinese voice actor had twisted feelings?
lets go for the drama
ionic terrace
Ehhh depends on what kind of cinematic
ionic terrace
I imagine it's a pre rendered one
nah they let us see the in engine ones
520ish MB
zealous basalt
fuck
tropic trail
yea that baine and zelling cinemati was in the ptr too
unborn glacier
Since when? Even those are usually encrypted
ionic terrace
You
unborn glacier
Lol
zealous basalt
oof
unborn glacier
Even he is
zealous basalt
Imagine this one has wrathion
ionic terrace
WrAtHiOn
dull flame
tropic trail
ah true
tropic trail
cutscene not a cinematic
ionic terrace
ye but we need the servers to be updated now lol
sullen dawn
doesnt matter how big patch is right?
sullen dawn
cos theres a bunch of encrypted stuff from first patch still?
dense plover
BUILD HAPPENING
ionic terrace
you're LATE
sullen dawn
so theoretically this patch could unlock stuff as well as add stuff
ionic terrace
birb give us some juicy stuff pls
stiff vector
still processing
ionic terrace
languid yoke
sylvanas renamed to sylvananas as a pun on the german word for pineapple because she is going on vacation with n'zoth and knaifu
nice beachy island of dragon isles
ionic terrace
Sylvananananananananabatman
ionic terrace
it... won't...
languid yoke
oh, she's just going there. WE're not following!
languid yoke
She's 2 steps ahead of us apparently anyway
stiff vector
languid yoke
like with the bain rescue
stiff vector
winter veil C O N F I R M E D
terse patrol
I cant see that on mobile 😦
terse patrol
Well, listen to it
sullen dawn
8.3 after christmas confirmed?
languid yoke
what I said almost made sense
eh 8.2 also updated halloween stuff but I'm sure we're getting 8.2.5 before halloween
sullen dawn
ok
mystic heart
shit
this encrypted stuff
languid yoke
I think easter and summer event were also updated in one batch but had a patch between them?
so it doesn't mean a lot
I'd also update winterveil in 8.2.5 in case 8.3 does take long
zealous basalt
More encrypted stuff?
dense plover
fuck yes
😭
missing comma
even broadcast text is encrypted
they are hiding so much
stiff vector
broadcasttext is only hiding a few records
most of that is still serverside as usual
uncut vault
so, is this our third build with no actual new content, just stuff put in?
only thing testable is still the wrathion stuff
stiff vector
they're going on a bit of an encryption spree in 8.2.5 @zealous basalt
zealous basalt
I wonder what is so important that is so hidden
smoky mural
the "twist"
tropic trail
^
languid yoke
inb4 nothing more to test and everything just gets released on live
zealous basalt
Inb4 these are fake builds
languid yoke
broadcast text, hearthstone tavern scenario...?
stiff vector
latter isn't even encrypted
terse patrol
stiff vector
just filled with fake dialog
tropic trail
i thought it was a rabbit
zealous basalt
wat
tropic trail
omg really...
stiff vector
that definitely looks like a new durotar rock to me
tropic trail
just encrypted stuff
zealous basalt
its a rock
terse patrol
They kinda have to.
stiff vector
that is the only actually new model file this build
terse patrol
PTR is their free QA.
terse patrol
I wonder why Blizzard is so secretive now.
stiff vector
they finally have the tech to be
tropic trail
because 8.2.5 has important lore spoilers probably
zealous basalt
That they weren't this secretive because they couldn't?
stiff vector
i pretty much think so, yeah
stiff vector
they've tried to encrypt large amounts of content before
it hasn't worked until now
terse patrol
The age of data mining is over.
stiff vector
and even now we know its likely durotar
zealous basalt
That from now on...they will encrypt everything?
uncut vault
I feel like theyre choosing a bad time to do this
because theyre also not having us test anything
so it feels like theres not really any PTR
stiff vector
they're testing what they want you to test
uncut vault
which atm is nothing
languid yoke
the only things we have to test are worgen/goblin models (with latter being kinda broken) and party sync
languid yoke
not even anniversary raid
zealous basalt
I hope they dont do 40m raids
tropic trail
i still want to know what the other RaF mount is
stiff vector
maybe they'll finally release the alpaca mount
its only been encrypted in the game since 8.1.5
mystic heart
so no new VO
stiff vector
i like how there's 3 more encryption keys that encrypt nothing
at this point they're just putting more in than they are shipping files for
terse patrol
Probably.
mystic heart
what 😄
zealous basalt
...Think he would be laughing at datamining and the encryptation?
mystic heart
but look on this m2
https://wow.tools/files/#search=type%3Am2&page=1&sort=0&desc=desc
yea
u just can't 😄
stiff vector
most of that is armor i think
mystic heart
yea might be
dense plover
recruit a friend UI
no clue why its blue
probably some kind of shader or something?
¯_(ツ)_/¯
tropic trail
the camel like that looks better
dense plover
otherwise pretty insiginificant build on the datamining end - not much to actually look at
terse patrol
hrrggh
dense plover
fucktons of stuff has been ecrypted
uncut vault
that does give us a look at the 3d assets of the set though
dense plover
doesnt mean it isnt available for testing
uncut vault
looks like we're getting a backpack with a strap
dense plover
ping me when it does
tropic trail
btw the armor the velf is wearing thats the RaF set?
terse patrol
Thats not a velf
tropic trail
So
mystic heart
lol why they encrypt Jaina VO
terse patrol
Doesn’t seem like it.
stiff vector
i'm guessing this is part of naxx?
terse patrol
Most of its encrypted so we won’t know until the servers are online.
stiff vector
doesnt immediately ring a bell
ionic terrace
SSC
stiff vector
ah
tropic trail
i wonder if they will release a cinematic before putting everything on PTR and letting us test it
modest temple
ugh rolled up sleeves and bandolier. I knew I would want that set but... I might have to just raf myself... again
stiff vector
yeah
storm marsh
Thats probably part of lady vashj
stiff vector
part of the anniversary stuff i guess?
storm marsh
Yep
stiff vector
it seems they put all the anniversary stuff on one giant map or something
ionic terrace
Not surprising
tropic trail
^
storm marsh
That map u sent above is normal map from the raid, its the northern part with that naga, demon hunter and giant guy bosses
ionic terrace
Which makes me wonder what the loading screen will look like
would be cool if it's a mix of them all
storm marsh
It should be that dwarf on the hypogryph
modest temple
^
ionic terrace
Lol yea
storm marsh
Gryphon actually
modest temple
We know what you meant.
modest temple
That also makes sense.
storm marsh
Yea
stiff vector
seeing that one is the old low res one
modest temple
I wonder what mechanics in those fights we no longer have the proper toolkit for. I remember Shazz being an issue in that MC they did because there are cooldowns on our dispells now.
I imagine both ppl get the rewards.
zealous basalt
Imagine if they, in a good heart moment, make everyone eligible to RaF
tropic trail
doesnt look that bad
calm plank
👀
tropic trail
i love that tabard
calm plank
she seems to have a backpack and it better be a part of the real set
uncut vault
locking the first set of proper casual gear behind RAF is more than a little bit annoying
night swift
It sucks that might be a raf reward
calm plank
ye
night swift
Cause I’ll never get it
modest temple
In mechagon the big power cell we have to recharge looks to be stapled to the back of a tabard they place on us. You can see the front is all black. I wonder if part of this armor set pushes the cheating they can do with accessories. You only see the bottom of that tabard but the belt might be what it is tied onto. WTB backpack.
forest sphinx
What do we got on the PTR? Anything exciting
storm marsh
What's with the Gilneas - Emberstone Village GY (new)
terse patrol
AKA, “find out in game when PTR launches.”
@storm marsh whacha mean
That’s the mining town in north Gilneas
tropic trail
that probably March or so
zealous basalt
five months for next xpac?
tropic trail
they need to take time making 9.0 so it doesnt happen the same as BFA..
sullen dawn
agreed
just give some nice evergreen content in 8.3.5
kinda like AR were in 7.3.5
something like class skins, or new levelling w/ squish, etc..
then launch 9.0 in nov
modest temple
Do you guys mean nov 2020?
sullen dawn
ye
modest temple
ok good
storm marsh
Since bfa patches are late, im sure 9.0 will go live in november/december 2020
sullen dawn
8.3 might not even be annoucned till nov 2019 😛
modest temple
I expect 8.3 to be a big part of blizzcon. why they arent doing anything at gamescon this year
tropic trail
they should release 8.3 on November, 8.3.5 on January, 9.0 Beta March or April & release 9.0 on October or November
storm marsh
8.3 january/february, 8.3.5 june
modest temple
^
tropic trail
or that too
modest temple
we arent getting .2.5 until between brewfest and hallowsend
sullen dawn
agreed
terse patrol
Nah
storm marsh
U know what, im just excited for the 8.3 features video with ion
sullen dawn
8.2.5 october, 8.3 jan, 8.3.5 april/may
terse patrol
Blizzcon will be all about 8.3.5 and 9.0
sullen dawn
*8.3/8.3.5 and 9.0
terse patrol
No
sullen dawn
i dont think we'll see 8.3 before blizzcon
modest temple
was argus .3 or .4?
terse patrol
7.3 was announced in august.
storm marsh
It would be stupid of blizz to not present 9.0 at blizzcon
sullen dawn
right at gamescom, but theyre not there this year
terse patrol
8.3 will be announced soon
modest temple
.3 wasnt it. im just wondering if they might push for another story beat in a .4 but probably not
sullen dawn
i think they can do both 8.3/8.35 and 9.0 at blizzcon
storm marsh
I suppose 8.3 will be announced in september or october
terse patrol
Dude they’ll just do a live stream
sullen dawn
maybe even dont bother with 8.3.5 until early next year
we dont need to know about 8.3.5 really for now
i do hope im worng
terse patrol
It would be psychotic to announce an OLD expansion’s patch next to the new expansion.
sullen dawn
depends on the split. 9.0 could just get cinematic and trailer
modest temple
they wont do .3 and 9 at the same time. that would spoil how .3 ends
terse patrol
^
sullen dawn
8.3 would get all the panels and deep dives, interviews
it would spoil .3 even if .3 is announced in september
modest temple
imagine if they announced bfa with argus. everyone would go "wait... how did azeroth get a sword in its gut?"
sullen dawn
since it wont be out anyway
modest temple
but not the ending
not the cutscene of what ever they do to top showing a titan stabbing the planet
sullen dawn
depends how they present 9.0
could be a very mysterious trailer than gives away gameplay but not much story
having shadowlands for example doesnt need to tell us how we get there
but i agree its messy
modest temple
just... dont get your hopes up
sullen dawn
im just not sure how announcing 8.3 in nov(blizzcon) is any different to announcing 8.3 in aug/sep when 9.0 is pretty much guaranteed to be at blizzcon and 8.3 wont be out until at least december
either way we'll see the next expansion before we know how 8.3 ends
uncut vault
looks like we're getting 120 boosts
ionic terrace
Ye I was about to say
tropic trail
what? how?
ionic terrace
kinda early for them
tropic trail
when?
ionic terrace
like really early
terse patrol
Weird
sullen dawn
isnt that usually a .3.5 thing?
sullen dawn
or even prepatch
terse patrol
They might just be prepping the groundwork for it.
uncut vault
the maps for the tutorials
ionic terrace
the safe locations
night swift
Oh god 120 boosts already
uncut vault
makes me wonder if 8.3 really isnt coming until a while after blizzcon
cause 120 boosts obviously come with the xpac preorder
so I guess theyre not anticipating 8.3 will be out by then?
tropic trail
lol
tropic trail
8.2.5 in Septober, with Blizzcon touching on 8.3 and revealing next expac: The Black Empire
end of September ?
dense plover
no
sullen dawn
or early october
tropic trail
october no september yes
dense plover
remember, last wing of lfr dropped a bit ago
sullen dawn
yesterday
tropic trail
what if they release 8.2.5 without putting anything for testing..
modest temple
i think we would see more ptr stuff but i bet they pulled some techs off to make sure classic doesnt crash
dense plover
theres not much more to this ptr
a lot is encrypted
the level sync and timewalking and classic event
and holiday changes
storm marsh
I'd love to work as a person who tests stuff that's limited to public at their HQ in Irvine 😄
dense plover
8.3 will probably be announced in a livestream sometime after 8.2.5 goes live
modest temple
invest in decryption software >.>
dense plover
blizzcon will probably focus on 9.0
storm marsh
Lol
dense plover
you would need a supercomputer to decrypt this
all the money in the world and you would still make no progress
uncut vault
8.1 to 8.1.5 was 13 weeks
same timeframe would be September 17th
and keep in mind, 8.1 had a month gap between the launch and the raid
8.2 only had two weeks
modest temple
holidays
smoky mural
People playing wow during September lul with all the games coming out
uncut vault
yes, so the gap for this one could be shorter because theres not a block of no work in there
sullen dawn
gears 5 😄
uncut vault
I mean, its a .5 patch, so not like thats a big deal
smoky mural
Or one minor update to wow
uncut vault
plus, its a good time right after classic, while people are still subbed for that first month
sullen dawn
ill move back to wow hype at blizzcon
dense plover
i mean, 8.3 will be known before blizzcon
raid probably wont be out tho
so the question is, show the raid cinematic
sullen dawn
the anniversary raid?
uncut vault
well, at blizzcon, they were vague about the cinematic because, despite being out, not everyone had seen it
BfA's premise was kickstarted by, but not explicitly tied to the sword
sullen dawn
there is no way in hell they dont follow their blizzcon expansion annoucnement.
dense plover
yeah this would be different
uncut vault
especially if Nzoth isnt dealt with in 8.3
dense plover
^
modest temple
theylll do a 9.0 tease at next years gamescon like they did with legion then we wont get it until 2021
sullen dawn
which i dont think he will be
uncut vault
dont really need all the patch context for a 9.0 reveal of "hey nzoth is fucking stuff up"
sullen dawn
8.3 is sylvanas for sure
uncut vault
we already know hes out with 8.2
dense plover
not for sure
dense plover
people keep saying since we fought the other two its guaranteed
dense plover
we have to
uncut vault
I feel like people forget
dense plover
otherwise itll come at some weird time
uncut vault
we never fought khadgar
tropic trail
Im sure 8.3 will be Nzoth thing with Sylvanas as a plot
modest temple
yeah... blizzcon 2020
tropic trail
I dont think the next xpac will be black empire
dense plover
imagine trying to sell the tickets with no wow announcement, no diablo 4, no SC, no HoTS, and just Hearthstone and overwatch
that would be a disaster
sullen dawn
black empire/shadowlands/dragon isles/world revamp are the popular candidates right?
dense plover
WoW expac announcement is pretty much guaranteed
modest temple
who said there wont be any of that stuff
dense plover
dragon isles seems likely for 8.3
uncut vault
we're probably getting Deathwing at blizzcon for HotS
modest temple
we got that ow 2 leak rumor, they said they are working on a d4
uncut vault
SC we know theyre not developing much as of Q2 report
dense plover
theyve been working on D4 for years
sullen dawn
it got rebooted tho didnt it?
dense plover
if its announced, that would be big
sullen dawn
from a dark souls type game back to normal isometric
dense plover
suposedly
terse patrol
D4 will happen. It has to, because Blizzard has to save face after the disaster of last Blizzcon.
dense plover
but theres no other space for a wow expac announcement
that would be the smart thing
modest temple
the year following
dense plover
Del
sullen dawn
thats way too late Del
uncut vault
if anything else didnt tip people off for this being a massive blizzcon
sullen dawn
like what, 8.3 is 18 month patch?
uncut vault
blizz skipping gamescom should have
modest temple
im not. 8.3 this year
uncut vault
theyre not gonna skip that free press unless they have a ton of stuff to get a massive amount of publicity at blizzcon
dense plover
but theyre gonna talk about it
sullen dawn
and then we ait until 2021? 😛
modest temple
we will not see an exp for a year. you all forget how long it took for wod and legion
terse patrol
They’ll open 9.0 beta around February probably.
dense plover
thats their new expac cycle
modest temple
we were blessed with a shorter window between legion to bfa
night swift
And we thought the wod drought was bad
night swift
That would be even worse
uncut vault
we werent blessed with it, the Legion cycle is why we had WoD
dense plover
they purposefully do not want that 2 year gap
uncut vault
they were training their team in that time
tropic trail
im guessing at Blizzcon the only things that will get announced for WoW will be 9.0 & probably release date of phase 2 for classic? or something ?
sullen dawn
the 2 year cycle is their new mantra
uncut vault
to start making xpacs like Legion
dense plover
^
sullen dawn
maybe 2 years 3 months or something but you get the drift
modest temple
it wont be 2 years, 8.3 in march, then release it the following jan or feb. 1 year
dense plover
lol
sullen dawn
wut
dense plover
8.3 wont be in march
terse patrol
tropic trail
8.3 will be release before February lol
modest temple
it wont be this year
dense plover
december-february for raid
tropic trail
1000% sure
sullen dawn
8.3 raid is late january absolute latest
dense plover
8.3 will be on ptr before blizzcon
sullen dawn
maybe early feb
dense plover
or at least theyll have done a stream before blizzcon
6 months between raids is the max time
modest temple
im just saying to expect 9.0 this year is way to optimistic
sullen dawn
only thing i disagree with you on mrpeach is the stream before blizzcon, and thats just cos i dont wanna get my hopes up
dense plover
we arent expecting the release
sullen dawn
you do realise we mean an announcement?
modest temple
visions of it
dense plover
we are expecting the announcement
night swift
A tease maybe
modest temple
anything on it
dense plover
then why skip gamescom?
sullen dawn
ok you're just straight up wrong dude
modest temple
./shrug
dense plover
which they arent doing anymore
modest temple
its what i believe
dense plover
its wrong
sullen dawn
this isn't opinion. i would bet my house on it
modest temple
and if it turn out wrong then ok
sullen dawn
i will give you my house
languid yoke
there's no chance they don't announce 9.0 at this blizzcon lmao
dense plover
^
forest sphinx
We won't have a stream or anything for 8.3 until BlizzCon
dense plover
especially if they want a raid in dec or jan
uncut vault
90.0 is about to be announced
modest temple
w/e im just here for worgen armor
dense plover
they need to start testing it before blizzcon
i wouldnt be suprised if 8.2.5 has a shorter ptr cycle than normal
forest sphinx
Warcraft Classic is going to be the main priority until 8.2.5 releases THEN maybe we will see something for 8.3
dense plover
8.2.5 release is probably sept 17th
modest temple
makes sense
tropic trail
yea
dense plover
long enough after classic to attract the people with sub remaining
especially with the free 110 boost thing
modest temple
buy into that raf too
dense plover
they gave free 110 boost to inactive accounts
sullen dawn
oh actually mr peach
dense plover
who met certain criteria
tropic trail
100*
dense plover
oh
sullen dawn
i take back my october release for 82.5 prediction
dense plover
still tho
zealous basalt
okay
ionic terrace
Wasn’t it 100 ye
zealous basalt
I went to eat
sullen dawn
cos that makes total business sense
zealous basalt
What did you talk about?
sullen dawn
having 8.2.5 while peoples month 1 classic sub is still active
ionic terrace
You
dense plover
i expect 8.3 announcement 2 weeks after 8.2.5
right after the anniversary event stuff goes live
they spend an hour talking about 8.3, 8.3.5, and looking forward.... see you at blizzcon
ionic terrace
We talked about how much of a panda you are makore
dense plover
with ptr going live sometime around mid-october at the latest
october 1st i think
maybe?
¯_(ツ)_/¯
sullen dawn
ok imma sleep till october so
zealous basalt
I think 8.25 will be released soon
zealous basalt
With 8.3 being da big thing on blizzcon along 9.0
dense plover
its after blizzcon
ionic terrace
Isn’t anniversary in nov
sullen dawn
yeh..
dense plover
either way
ionic terrace
Like always
sullen dawn
thats what i thought
dense plover
i ex[pect 8.3 stream 2nd week of october OR earlier
assuming the sept 17th prediction is correct
sullen dawn
so some 8.2.5 content still wont be live until blizzcon, but youre right that shouldnt stop PTR or the very least an announcement
sullen dawn
yeh i guess its kinda like a holiday event
dense plover
anniversary event is a raid and some world stuff and toys
they dont need to talk about it at blizzcon
theyll make a blue post
with a video overview
sullen dawn
maybe "and our anniversary was so fun, we had blah blah players claim the new mount"
1 line
ionic terrace
They mentioned brewfest in the 8.2 dev notes but never tested it
sullen dawn
oh wait its after, nvm
so in terms of 8.2.5, do we think its going to be pretty big?
sullen dawn
i know theres a lot of encryption, and someone mentioned thats simply because they have new tech/process to do that efficiently
tropic trail
story wise it should be
sullen dawn
but it feels weird not knowing the estimated scope of a patch
zealous basalt
I cry
tropic trail
if 8.3 will be a patch where Horde and Alliance focus on Nzoth together, then 8.2.5 have to be big . Because this would be the patch where they have to deal with Sylvanas story wise
sullen dawn
barrens warfront (Maybe?), war campaign? thunder bluff stuff? whats with the new models? 😛
dense plover
wait
tropic trail
I think a warfront is very likely
stiff vector
still not sure it is an actual warfront or just a scenario with warfront tech
sullen dawn
also is it durotar or barrens? 😛
stiff vector
durotar
zealous basalt
Durobarrens
stiff vector
if the map is anything to off, not even all of it, just the part in front of org
and maybe inside too but that just reuses the regular org map
sullen dawn
so is the thinking we'll pre-empt sylvanses attack on thunder bluff? or its a retaliation after she attacks TB?
dense plover
- Timewalking Firelands Raid for Cata Timewalking
- Chromie Anniversary Raid
- In-World Anniversary event that gives timewarped badges
- New Trial of Style Sets
- Some kind of detective scenario in the dreamgrove (or thats a red herring)
- War Campaign
- Possibly a warfront, probably for 8.3, not 8.2.5
- Anniversary PvP Alterac with 1 mount per faction
- Wrathion stuff (probably more than what we tested)
- RaF Changes
- Party/Quest Sync
- Bee Mount & Rep Grind
- Worgen and Goblin updates w/ heritage armor probably
tropic trail
I dont think she will attack TB at all, but we dont know. Maybe there will be a warfront to try to attack TB
dense plover
think thats all i got
storm marsh
New trial of style sets? Did i miss somethinf
tropic trail
but Im sure the main plot will be stormwind
stiff vector
don't think warfront is for 8.3
dense plover
there were data lines for ToS stuff
but no assets
at least, not full ones
then they were encrypted
😭
storm marsh
Wtf
storm marsh
Hopefully revealed with worgen and goblin heritage
dense plover
or me misunderstanding something
stiff vector
and detective scenario seems related to the hearthstone map
dense plover
yeah
sullen dawn
oh the HS inn too right?
sullen dawn
HS in wow plz
stiff vector
the dialog yeah
languid yoke
new trial of style set?
stiff vector
the thing itself i don't think so
tulip sun
So I heard there were new models for durotar?
sullen dawn
seems like a pretty fleshed out building to be a herring
sullen dawn
maybe HS integration?
sullen dawn
could just emulate it no?
dense plover
but i wouldnt be suprised if they make the tavern from the cinematics canon
thats what this tavern seems to be
so maybe the characters from HS end up here
¯_(ツ)_/¯
could be a major feature of this patch
sullen dawn
ah yeh
zealous basalt
inb4 all the patch is fake
dense plover
but its all kind of unknown
uncut vault
Gonna be interesting to see how badly they do the little girl
dense plover
^
sullen dawn
stiff vector
@tulip sun there were new durotar models a long time ago i think
this rock is just another one i think
zealous basalt
Imagine linking HS with WoW
dense plover
btw realm list is up, but servers arent
not yet at least
TLDR watch this guy's tweets
Twitter
he is the one who makes announcements when the servers go up
stiff vector
ha
looked into those durotar models
there's a reason they claim to be ashran things
zealous basalt
And why is it?
storm marsh
Ewww dont tell me that's going to be in durotar
stiff vector
not sure but there's not many other zones that are that orange
modest temple
wod rocks are spreading
zealous basalt
I don't see the difference
stiff vector
doritos orange is a very specific color in wow
modest temple
thats... im never not going to see that when i look at the barrens now
terse patrol
Doritar. @zealous basalt
zealous basalt
Kek
terse patrol
Orcs chief export is doritos dust.
dense plover
dont bring in politics toby
its a good way to get banned or make people angry
it isnt neccesary
sullen dawn
sorry
sullen dawn
😛
dense plover
whu?
ionic terrace
knowyourgoat
zealous basalt
Think realms will be up todai?
zealous basalt
SO WAT
dense plover
¯_(ツ)_/¯
zealous basalt
Only that?
That one*
I mean, it may be just for flavor, but adding one weather system that affects player might be cute
Something like in BotW where a lightning storm is dangerous if you use plate
dense plover
tbh its a pretty meh system that doesnt do MUCH more than wow
and a lot of them just ruin visibility of otherwise pretty zones
calm plank
I feel like I'm the only one who likes it more when there's shitty weather
dense plover
i dont mind as long as it isnt ALL THE TIME
some zones have the same weather all the time (wow has this too) and that means you dont get to see it without that
the difference being wow lets you turn up the weather, and FFXIV doesnt give you a choice at all
calm plank
it'd be nice if there was an addon that made you capable of picking the weather you wanna see tbh
dense plover
not possible unfortunately
calm plank
yeah I know
meager zodiac
uncut vault
I just want there to be something
dense plover
They’re clearly hiding stuff for a reason
We might not get to see a lot of it until release
I’m pretty sure there’s at least 1 encrypted cutscene
zealous basalt
inb 5
ionic terrace
つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Summon Servers
dense plover
Might happen tomorrow
ionic terrace
maybe they will be off till monday 
forest sphinx
Why would do they do that?
ionic terrace
yay RaF lua erros
dense plover
my characters are missing
tropic trail
watch out if you can find something new
dense plover
duh
storm marsh
Im laying in bed rn, someone pls check that emberstone village in gilneas to see if there is something added
dense plover
no war campaign stuff
dense plover
nothing in caverns of time
dense plover
ill check anyway
dense plover
pyrewood village?
uncut vault
emberstone
dense plover
where is that?
ionic terrace
lol
dense plover
nothing for me as horde
ionic terrace
ree
ionic terrace
When I switch to NElf gilneas rep is maxed, when I switch back to worgen, Darn rep is
terse patrol
Emberstone is northeast of Gilneas City
dense plover
and gilneas seems as empty as ever
terse patrol
Ye
I wonder why they aren’t putting anything in game.
Are they waiting for a cinematic to launch or something?
Terran Gregory put out a suspicious tweet earlier.
uncut vault
if we're doing gilneas stuff, it's going to be separate from the stuff we see now
cause current gilneas is empty because of horde quest phasing
dense plover
jesus, zone is totally empty on horde