Sweet
#beta-ptr-spoilers
inner copper
inner copper
thanks
dark furnace
"Wait it wasn't just a regular wolf! It was... uh..."
What even is this quest? Dreamgrove Murder Mystery
languid yoke
no one knows!
dense plover
Either a quest to spice things up during the holdover between major patches
Or it’s bullshit to disguise something else
Both are plausible
Especially since there is some kind of hearthstone tavern tagged with the dream grove
terse patrol
So, back to PTR build watch.
terse patrol
WIP of my high elf btw.
unborn glacier
XDDDDDDDDDDDDD
zealous basalt
I dont even
modest temple
That is really good work.
So Wrathion is hiding from N'Zoth but, i know its not right now, what happens if a character with his blessing still attached is the one to find him. I wonder if there'll be a consequence.
zealous basalt
I am
dense plover
Looks like nothing today
unborn glacier
BFA is, actually. BFA is not over, thus, still making it the 15th anniversary xpac.
unborn glacier
And? For 9.0 to be the 15th anniversary xpac, the 15th anniversary would have to happen doing that xpac
It won't
It's happening this xpac
Thus, BFA is the 15th anniversary xpac
tropic trail
9.0 is 16th anniversary
unborn glacier
^
uncut vault
I dont know why the anniversary logo is included, but I think the implication people are trying to make is that Calia may raise people into a stone-ish form
since her skin is described as alabaster in the novel
calm plank
Kinda like that mecha-gnome in northrend who wanted to mechanize gnomes back
dense plover
I mean, her skin is white, not stone
It’s not even the same shade of white
“Blizzard made two things in the same patch white, clearly related”
Does that mean that worgen are related to old gods because they’re both black?
Or that wrathion is related to Nzoth because they both have red eyes?
XD
ionic terrace
Hm interesting
All the starter zones now scale from 1-60
which leads to this lol
night swift
The guards scale to 125 still don’t they?
So even if you went there flagged a guard would just delete you
tulip sun
What people are saying is that the color scheme of calia and the anniversary stuff is similar
smoky mural
BURN THE WITCH
stiff vector
@ionic terrace definitely interesting indeed 🤔
storm marsh
Centaurs/gargoyls/gnolls must be the only creatures left with old model
uncut vault
you never know, we are going back to the barrens/durotar area
austere gazelle
Anyway the shadowlands ' leak' is probably the real deal since we have a huge teasing through Voljin / Calia / Sylvanas real goal / Bwonsamdi / Gorak'Tul ( what is thros? ) and many " death themed ' assets with the light blue color everywhere and in the island expeditionthat are used nowhere else as of now
storm marsh
As long as they give me more customization options on races, They can make any kind of expansion for me
zealous basalt
I just realized something
Wrathion 's alchemy is doing similar effects to the gilnean alchemy
modest temple
wtb race of dragonborn like wrathion who look slick as f and goes dragonman in fights.
.> holds back other crackpot theories
sullen dawn
Only if alliance get light undead (the redeemed) with choice of himan or undead model
With lorderon knight heritage armour
Then hordiew can have dragon peeps using worgen rig
Fits shadowlands leak perfextly too
One allied race fitting each if the expansions 2 themes
terse patrol
no
I want Alliance Dragonmen.
They were meant to be Alliance back in Cataclysm but they chose worgen instead.
sullen dawn
Soz
languid yoke
Alliance should get drakonids. Give them an actually cool AR
sullen dawn
Well maybe factions wont matter raiding/dungeon wise soon so hopefully wont matter too mich
Mechgnomes and kul tirans are cool as hell!
Dark irons too
I admit void elves and light dranei suck
languid yoke
mechagnomes suck, DID are eh, KT are kinda cool
but don't compare to Zandalari/Mag'har
or Vulpera
languid yoke
how do vulpera suck but not mechagnomes
sullen dawn
Cos mechagnomes have an awesome story/theme behind them
I just dont like the vulpera aesthetic/lore
The nomad thing doesnt interest me mu h
Plus lorderons/redeemed would be badass
Id change my paladin in an instant
tropic trail
heresy
languid yoke
heck no
sullen dawn
Guess we have different tastes
languid yoke
Redeemed would be as cool as Forsaken. Not at all.
sullen dawn
Frankly id love a ressurgance of lorderon lore
Plus dragons/knights would make sense as a combo wombo
languid yoke
that's why drakonids are alliance material
terse patrol
Alliance almost got drakonids too I think.
so its clear the Alliance was always the preference for dragon races
languid yoke
no
lone marten
undead = boring
tropic trail
pro active races are never boring, while passive races are
which makes 90% of the alliance races boring
languid yoke
see, Makore is right
uncut lintel
o o o o o o
ivory meadow
Rerolling my rogue into female worgen
strange falcon
my eyes will permanently see the snarl forever
languid yoke
my good bois will be best bois
ivory meadow
It was a choice between my Warrior or my Rogue
tropic trail
https://www.bilibili.com/video/av62279383/?p=2 here is the source from the ChineJoy event, where John Hight literally confirmed Sylvanas wont die
go to 36:30 minutes
tropic trail
best part is, right after he says she wont die, he also says "I dont want spoil to much"
😂
zealous basalt
Would you believe I thought that they meant Crucible of Flames had a problem in a cross realm raid?
tropic trail
Why would Alliance get drakonids?
They've been Neutral forever
And it'd come from nowhere
Cata was the last time we interacted with a dragon that wasn't Wrathion or Chromie in any meaningful capacity
tropic trail
What did we do in legion or BFA with dragons?
Nothing faction related
Oh hey there's Chromie, and Kalecgos who is part of the Kirin Tor
Bfa, oh hey here's Kalecgos for some reason with his dumpy model
agile token
@tropic trail Plenty of stuff happened in legion
Bolvar semi-attacked the red dragonflight
agile token
tropic trail
The dumb lizards have done nothing of note and have no reason to choose a side
zealous basalt
Dragonkin are more prompt to be leaning towards the Alliance more than the Horde, at least the red ones are
Doesn't need to have more than one expac or one patch to make them lean towards a faction
tropic trail
Well duh, but the Red Ones arent going to engage in war and hard lean Alliance
zealous basalt
As we saw with Kt and Zanda
tropic trail
The Sethrak are the better Reptilians anyhow
zealous basalt
Yeah yeah
azure estuary
So if Durotar is getting a Warfront. That means that possibly the front gates of Orgrimmar are getting a rework! 🤤🤞🏻
jade basalt
Slight correction though, in the video they don't technically say that they're not killing her. Just that they're not killing her 'quickly'.
First he asks the audience if they like Sylvanas, then he goes :
"You think we would kill Sylvanas that quickly? NO! I'm not gonna tell you what happens to her cuz that would be a spoiler, but you can plan on us to have a big story for Sylvanas, so stay tuned in Battle for Azeroth."
stiff vector
coming in with the hot facts
tropic trail
what basically means she wont die in BfA. That she cant die in another xpac, was never out of question
smoky mural
yes wut facts marl
jade basalt
That's up to interpretation, but no it doesn't mandatorily mean that she will survive past BFA. Could be for 8.3.5 for instance. Or something else entirely.
smoky mural
that likely just layer speak to cover there corners for the futurex expansions after the next one
tropic trail
technically, youre right. But realistically it is clear, even without this interview, that she wont die in BfA
there are enough reasons who confirm it
just alone that the other 2 warbringers also didnt died
distant folio
Uh, more like the opposite. There's literally 0 reason for Sylvanas to survive past BFA. The Alliance is full against her, and now since 8.2 the Horde too is also full against her, and she is going full Old God, literally the entire world is coming for her. Hell even Nathanos has shown to be doubtful against her. Either she dies or she is rendered to a state that, narratively, is pretty much equal to being dead (merges with N'Zoth, or Kerrigan 2.0, etc). She is not going to return after BFA.
tropic trail
she wont die and her story will go further then just BfA
we can make an actuall real life money bet, and I tell you, you will lose
distant folio
Her story ends with BFA.
At this point even the Horde and even her supporters hate her, or at least more do than when BFA started. Blizzard has no incentive to forcibly put her on life support.
tropic trail
Her story ends when the writers decide it will
distant folio
Yes.
zealous basalt
No one knows but the writers
tropic trail
and from all the interviews, they clearly not done with her
distant folio
That's your interpretation.
zealous basalt
Considering they are having a lot of fun with her
They don't have to link her with the horde anymore
tropic trail
If they planned already to kill her off, it would be foolish to think they wont make her a villain who brings back like wotlk 2.0
they could make her the lich queen
distant folio
No, they're not going to waste Bolvar.
tropic trail
Ofc they would
tropic trail
Bolvar is not even close on the same lvl as Sylvanas
distant folio
Who has been foreshadowed quite a bit lately.
smoky mural
or she just wins the faction war
distant folio
She won't, both factions are against her.
jade basalt
Sylvanas is not going to replace Bolvar..
tropic trail
I dont think she will
but I say, it is much more likely then she will jsut die in BfA
and dont come back
thats something you should not bet on
smoky mural
yes and they still can get it out of there hat that she wins
distant folio
Sylvanas becoming the Lich Queen instead of Bolvar is literally not more likely than her dying.
tropic trail
it is
distant folio
She is a lot, lot more likely to die because literally the entire world is now against her, even the faction she was supposed to win to her side at the beginning of this expac.
tropic trail
So your only point is, she will be die for ever in BfA because everyone is against her? What a low point
that means nothing at all
zealous basalt
I don't think it would work exactly like that, Yana
distant folio
They literally already stated Sylvanas' ending won't be the same as Garrosh's, so your argument is nil.
tropic trail
that she will leave the horde, is out of discussion. she will for sure
zealous basalt
Which meant about dying in a raid
She is going to be in a raid, though
But she won't die there
tropic trail
Where did they said "her ending wont be the same" source?
They said she wont become garrosh
or, she wont end like Garrosh did
distant folio
@tropic trail That's such a weird argument. If the Horde was still with her, you'd say "of course she won't die, she still has full support of the Horde against the Alliance". If the Horde is against her, in addition to the Alliance, you go "of course she won't die, she doesn't need either the Alliance or the Horde". There's literally no way to argue with this, either way you are just going to twist it to fit your argument.
"she wont end like Garrosh did" and "Sylvanas' ending won't be the same as Garrosh's" are literally the same sentence dude.
tropic trail
Listen buddy, Im accepting your weird imagination that you still somehow believe she will die this xpac. Thats ok. Im tellng you, this is a 100% not going to happen.- Lets just wait and see how it actually plays out
because I will nerver agree with you on this point
smoky mural
we have the word of god that said they aren't going to kill anytime soon
distant folio
You have literally not provided one single argument for her surviving past BFA.
distant folio
8.3.5 is literally 1+ year away. @smoky mural
tropic trail
and the fact that the other 2 warbringers didnt died too
smoky mural
distant folio
This literally does not say she will survive past BFA. On the contrary it LITERALLY says "stay tuned for Battle for Azeroth".
smoky mural
are you thick
tropic trail
It says at least more then what you have to offer
ivory meadow
as in wait to see what happens to her
smoky mural
they say it
ivory meadow
they also said they won't kill her quickly
jade basalt
No, he doesn't say she will survive past BfA. He says "You think we would kill Sylvanas that quickly? NO! I'm not gonna tell you what happens to her cuz that would be a spoiler, but you can plan on us to have a big story for Sylvanas, so stay tuned in Battle for Azeroth."
tropic trail
and there are 2 other different interviews where we hear something similiar
jade basalt
Could be interpreted either way, but if the argument is "they said she is going to survive BFA", then it's incorrect.
tropic trail
The argument is, that she is not going to die this xpac. It doesnt need this interview
ivory meadow
ok so you're saying she's going to die in either 8.3 or 8.3.5?
distant folio
You literally linked this interview to back up your argument that she is going to survive past BFA...
tropic trail
If Sylvanas becomes a raid boss, then she literally cant die in this raid
distant folio
She doesn't need to be a raid boss.
tropic trail
because already confirmed she wont die as a raid boss + 2 other warbringers also didnt died during the raid
jade basalt
She won't die as a raid boss.
tropic trail
I know
she can die in a cinematic and not in a raid
but Im saying, its not gonna be BfA
distant folio
@ivory meadow Sure. Maybe against N'Zoth. Maybe she merges with him. Maybe she becomes Kerrigan 2.0. 8.3.5 is literally 1+ year away, that perfectly fits "not quickly".
tropic trail
Lets not keep the discussion. Lets just wait
because I dont see a point where you or I will agree
distant folio
You have not provided anything to back you up aside from an interview which you admitted did not back you up.
limber mural
One leak of BfA which turned out to be 85% credible so far said that one character is the incarnation of nzoth and has been dead for 6 years
/shrug
tropic trail
What ever dude, she wont die. Thats my last words. You can try how much you want
but I will come back to this discussion in 9.0
distant folio
Sure.
limber mural
Yet another great Internet argument where people state their opinions as facts
Wonderful
tropic trail
the same does starseeker
limber mural
Yes. That's what I said.
tropic trail
I tried to explain why I believe she wont die, why I think its clearly
limber mural
The both of you are equally as baseless
tropic trail
agree
limber mural
I need to macro this to post after every message I send online, your opinions are not facts
jade basalt
I really don't see a future for Sylvanas narratively. But more importantly, even players and fans are tired of her, including a lot who were originally rooting for her. The wise choice would be to give her a good death and end this, or to put her on bus, hell even Kerrigan 2.0 is likely, etc. but I seriously doubt she will remain an important character after BFA.
sullen dawn
You should also add 'and neither are mine" just to smooth it out ;)
tropic trail
But I can at least deliver stuff that is not just based on "she will die, because everyone is against her now, she doesnt have any place where she can be"
limber mural
Still baseless. There's broadly linked opinions but still opinions
Admit that you're both clueless on the actual topic you're arguing and leave it at that
distant folio
Dude, that's at least one valid argument. She had the support of the Horde as the only thing protecting her, now she doesn't even have that anymore. That is an argument for "she's going to get rekt". You have literally nothing for "yeah for sure she will survive 150 more years"
tropic trail
I understand your point Mind, even if I disagree with you
distant folio
And that's in addition to her mingling with the Old Gods, which always marks the (eventual) death or defeat of a character. Always.
tropic trail
Oh boy. Its ok if you believe so
its not like it was exactly the same with garrosh
and blizzard pulled a whole army of orcs out of their ass
but hey
believe in what you want to believe
distant folio
Azshara got rekt, Cho'gall got killed, Benedictus, Deathwing, Garrosh, literally every single character that became friendies with the Old Gods gets rekt, because the entire world turns against them. It's literally not possible to survive in the story if you're pals with the Old Gods, because that makes you enemy #1.
And hell she already is enemy #1 so it's really, really not helping her case.
tropic trail
first, we need something in the future that confirms she actually is working for/with the old gods, and is not just manipulated by them
distant folio
That's the same. Azshara, Cho'gall, Garrosh, they were working for or using the Old Gods, they were not mindless victims. Still got rekt, defeat or death.
tropic trail
Azshara got rekt? ok
distant folio
defeat or death
She most certainly did get rekt. We destroyed her entire kingdom, all her generals, got back the tidestone, and ravaged her own citadel, before kicking her own ass.
tropic trail
defeating Sylvanas doesnt mean she dies?
she could be a raid boss, could be defeated
distant folio
She is not going to be a raid boss.
tropic trail
escapes, and whoala, we see her in the next xpac
distant folio
And I've been making a distinction between defeat and death for a while, if you read my comments. Narratively, that's the same. The character doesn't last long afterwards. Garrosh too was defeated, died literally the next patch.
tropic trail
Thats right. She could indeed die in the next xpac
but you understand that what I said was, she wont die in BfA?
I never stated she will survive the next xpac
stiff vector
running through elwynn encountering level 60 murlocs is pretty wild
scaling is weird yo
flint meteor
people still thinking she gonna die
the one char to die is gonna prob be saurfang
languid yoke
one-named guy in a red shirt
The wildhammer fact checker is gonna die
ionic terrace
Man I love being able to see party members in other phases
stiff vector
ptr closing maybe if we're real bored
forest sphinx
Still up for me but I'll log in and see if there's a timer or anything counting
ionic terrace
He was answering my question
stiff vector
reading/10
mystic heart
probably patch tomorrow as always
zealous basalt
Is there a way to shorten the gcd?
night swift
Haste?
deft carbon
weird broken chest armor texture 👀
night swift
Oh my
zealous basalt
I dont think that's...a glitch
long blade
mm
dense plover
Probably neither
Not this late at least
Unless it’s already in and just encrypted
tropic trail
update Lynxes
deft carbon
Lynxes are living in eversong forests
uncut lintel
would be cool to have a pet lynx
dense plover
Show me a pic?
uncut lintel
Yea
calm plank
old boys
deft carbon
dense plover
All of the big cats in the old world still need updates
Cheetahs, lions, lynx, tigers
Tiger they have a new base model to work off of
The rest need work
I would love some true lions
Like the alliance mount
But new
And not a mount
cinder stirrup
The old whelpling models need updating to the new legion ones my crimson whelpling looks really outdated next to my stormborne one
dense plover
Ah those are on purpose
They always have some that aren’t updated
Also it 8.3 is dragon isles then it’ll happen then
inner copper
The tigers did get an update in MoP
The Shado-pan riding tigers are pretty nice tbh
dense plover
they feel really old compared to the tiger from BfA
unborn glacier
lololololo
dense plover
201.34mb
and yes
this late
its why literally none of us are prepared
fucking left field build
swerving in out of nowhere
unborn glacier
YOU ARE NOT PREPARED!!!!!!!
terse patrol
Guess Perculia gets to work late.
Kind of a small build tho. Maybe it’ll be dialogue heavy.
whole cedar
this is still not as late as the infamous blizzcon 2018 build
dense plover
calia and durotar warfront are gone
so probably not supposed to be in the build
OR
the file ids changed
and theyre now encrypted
servers still down
i dont have monitoring tools, so uh
¯_(ツ)_/¯
terse patrol
Not sure why they’d remove Calia since the jig is up on that.
dense plover
because if they make any changes
forest sphinx
PTR update
dense plover
"Thank you for your report. Players who violate our policies disrupt the World of Warcraft experience for everyone, and your reports help us identify them.\n\nWhile we can't provide specific details about account penalties, your recent reports led to actions against a player and their account.\n\nYour reports make the World of Warcraft a friendlier place for everyone."
this is the shit
if your reports get someone, they now tell you
forest sphinx
That's awesome
dense plover
woah
Last Resort buff
i think
no wait
might actually be a nerf
goblin glider pandaria enchant has had its cooldown reduced from 5 min to 3 min
OH SHIT
new uncategorized spell
"Soldier of the Battle for Gilneas City "
uncut vault
so we probably are getting a flashback to cata stuff
dense plover
for the heritage armor? looks like a possibility
could also be a new battle
to reclaim it
¯_(ツ)_/¯
uncut vault
well, Sylvanas got her voice lines from the first one recorded in 8.2 for some reason
seems like theres a LOT more models this build
based on marlamins site
uncut vault
multiple pages of new stuff
dense plover
yeah
but theyre unknown
they could be models, textures, maps
¯_(ツ)_/¯
alterac map?
looks like durotar warfront map is still in
no clue why the file ids changed
tropic trail
and the boss icons got removed
zealous basalt
Infamous build?
dense plover
wish the model loader worked for me
uncut vault
models arent loading yet for me either
its automatic, IIRC, so rpobably just needs a bit more time to process them all
dense plover
looks like 3 new models
might be the site that's busted
in which case, wowhead will find them
@ancient forge if this helps, new model file ids - 3073471, 3073472, 3073473
servers probably wont come up today
but who knows
build went out this late
so
¯_(ツ)_/¯
dense plover
oh
sorry
i figured since they showed up sorta in the model viewer they might work
oh well
ancient forge
TactKeyId 267 required
dense plover
Boo
uncut vault
update is going out
dense plover
for servers?
already went out for clients
yep
servers
the realm list is back
servers are still down tho
whole cedar
thanks i hate it
zealous basalt
I dont get it
whole cedar
buzzfeed reference
whole cedar
frigid crater
tropic trail
Lol
zealous basalt
I am going to kill you whoever wrote that title
zealous basalt
nanda
tropic trail
lol
tulip sun
I feel like this is just a huge joke
dense plover
thats the voice line jaina says
long blade
This whole expansion has been glyphs only for Mages, Shamans or Druids its getting old
long blade
i believe every class should get at least one glyph
tropic trail
Holy Bee
long blade
hunters coudlve gotten a glyph to make their pets more drust like
dense plover
hunters have a new glyph
dire bees
makes the dire beast into bees
or stampede
or whatever
tropic trail
dire beast
lime venture
ptr realms are down?
meager zodiac
bye shrek
long blade
Bout time
zealous basalt
Imagine if Thrall, Saurfang, Baine and the one from the belves died and Sylv stayed as warchief ruling with iron fists
long blade
that would be awesome
zealous basalt
The way Blizzard delievers a message
whole cedar
that's just an orc stand pose, pretty much all iterations of Saurfang since 8.0 have that pose
its WADead03
although there is a new NPC entry for him in 8.2.5, but we haven't gathered a specific model for that one yet, the pose itself doesn't mean much.
here's his orgrimmar npc version (ID 14720) with the exact same pose 😛
smoky mural
Shhh nery a man can dream
long blade
my dreams are gone
smoky mural
Mine are too
whole cedar
I do think a possible saurfang death would be interesting but I don't want people getting excited over nothing :(
long blade
Im honestly just tired of sad shrek in every cinematic and his "honor"
zealous basalt
Well, if you ask me
Sylvanas dominating the whole horde might be
the best thing storyline wise
Rather than going back to "Alliance and Horde"
or "Inner Horde fight ends up with old favorites"
Sylvanas being like
The top order of the Horde would be a nice twist
long blade
Honestly im tired of the horde v alliance conflict
one faction needs to finish the other or they team up and stay as one from now on
forest sphinx
Isn't there an upcoming scenario coming? Could this be part of that?
long blade
I believe the scenario coming might be about Wrathion and dragon isles
maybe we will see more about sylvannas
its all about Saurfang and the old leaders but we never get a cinematic of sylvanna's thoughts and plans
storm marsh
So saurfang is gone in 8.2.5?
languid yoke
no
forest sphinx
We don't know what that model is for yet
stiff vector
Saurfang model is encrypted but it is very similar to the noarmor version of him @whole cedar
Together with the encrypted Orgrimmar/Durotar map
Considering they're being super careful by encrypting most of the stuff related to it I feel like he might die
But that has no basis in fact as far as I can find
whole cedar
Figured
tropic trail
What do yal think about the new models for worgen Conflicted if I wanna change from a NE to them. But then again if the heritage armor looks so cool for NE I’ll be sad. Rip.
languid yoke
new worgen model is great you should become one
tropic trail
I don’t think they will give NE heritage armor they deserve too, I play hunter so the gear is fucking awful.
stiff vector
https://wow.tools/help/view.php?id=9 see notes here for key 263
but that hasn't been updated with last nights build yet, hoping to take a peek at what that added to the key after work
the renaming of the durotarwarfront textures in last nights build is a total misdirect
[x] they tried
whole cedar
one of the maps stiven got was the same durotarwarfront map from the first build, but without the boss markers
stiff vector
yeah, they renamed it and updated it
hoping we wouldn't notice i'm sure
not encrypting it in the first build was an error
whole cedar
calia's model is also gone isnt it
stiff vector
they tried but because it was a carbon copy of the siege map it wasnt encrypted
let me check
nope
still there and heavily modified, they just removed .bone files
modified in file, that is, not something i notice different about it visually
smoky mural
They removed callia model from the database?
stiff vector
still there
if the NPC in the order hall is changed back they just changed the displayid for that back to the old model
smoky mural
Oh the in game model
stiff vector
yeah, files still seem to be there
and enough records exist that they can just add that back with one hotfix
smoky mural
PLS she's just a boss fight and doesn't stay
tropic trail
but we wont get another build, right?
whole cedar
nope
whole cedar
i actually hope this doesn't become a thing (build going live the day after)
bee faction had some new items, I wanna take a look at those. maybe the grind is a bit easier.
tbh i'm happy we even got a build this week. wasn't expecting one because of classic stress test, thought they'd put their resources on that
unreal minnow
PTR off again
tropic trail
maybe because of the classic stress test?
zealous basalt
anything new?
stiff vector
no idea, am waiting in classic queue
zealous basalt
Dito
dense plover
possibly new war campaign stuff
i have a quest available called Whispers of Nzoth
ah
its the wrathion queest
seems its not tied to neck level anymore
THEY FINALLY FIXED THE MONKEY KINGS THRONE
theres only 1 now
instead of 3
chamber of heart seems to have new music? mightve been added a while ago and not implemented until now
dense plover
"There's no real weather anymore" - people who clearly haven't played with WeatherDensity 3
sullen dawn
still not a great amount of weather imo
zealous basalt
no
dense plover
so far, still no wrathion followup quest
dense plover
doesnt seem like there's much of anything new thats actually playable this build
smoky mural
Anything in the database
dense plover
nothing that wasnt on wowhead
dense plover
damn i forgot how brutaal the goblin intro is
tropic trail
How long do you guys think it will be till 8.2.5 comes out? Trying to see if I have enough effort to get to exalted worgen rep 🤔
night swift
I’d start now. It might be awhile
tropic trail
Idk some people said it should be out between late September through October. But. I still feel like that’s soon asf x’D. I don’t think it will be out till like December because let’s be honest wow is never that early lol
tropic trail
Yeah I think I’ll grind it out tomorrow through the weekend since I’m off. Ty for the help 💁🏻♀️
tropic trail
You can get exalted rep in like 1h
from 0
just spamm all the time magister terrace in Quel Danas
thats what I did, its the fastest dungeon
deft carbon
Is PTR offline? I can't log in
dense plover
Don’t think so
deft carbon
dense plover
yeah thats 100% an account issue
No realms available would be the servers down message
but ill check myself
yeah no problems here
deft carbon
some people wrote about the same problem on US forums
ionic terrace
I can't ever say that I thought i'd run Uldaman as a level 60 demon hunter
but I did
deft carbon
@dense plover yes, I can... It's only ptr problem I think
I'll check it again
Nope, still can't log in on ptr :c
uncut vault
I cannot log into anything either. Character select screen comes up, but I get disconnected logging in
dense plover
¯_(ツ)_/¯
split laurel
Noticed that before I left. It was like that a couple hours now
dense plover
might be the classic stress test
i can still log in and play
so i have no idea
might be internet provider issues
uncut vault
its working fine now
austere gazelle
Since they put the next expansion logo and files in the 8.2 client and not in the 8.2.5
I fear they might have considered that 8.2.5 would be launched after blizzcon
stiff vector
citation needed for that first one
smoky mural
Wut logo @austere gazelle
austere gazelle
Dudes, we are on the wowhead discord and it was a wowhead news when 8.2 came out
stiff vector
unsure if accurate
smoky mural
Prity sure there isn't any new logo
stiff vector
yeah i don't think that news existed
i'd remember
let me know if you find that news post @austere gazelle 😄
austere gazelle
Some interface files referring to the next expansion made it into a PTR build. Mostly notably one that's supposed to be an (inaccessible) image file for the expansion's logo. They just call it "Expansion08" though.
stiff vector
yeah that is inaccurate
austere gazelle
that was the wowhead News
stiff vector
or well, simply wrong
there's no files relating to expansion08 in any build
those are only filenames
and not to actual files either
austere gazelle
which is still present, and concerning the next expansion
austere gazelle
I mean it's not coming out of nowhere
stiff vector
i know where it is coming from, i found and added it 😛
stiff vector
yep
stiff vector
yeah inside blizzard
spoilers, they have almost all of the next expansion in their clients
😛
austere gazelle
sure xD I was mislead by that news then, my bad
zealous basalt
Update is required
severe oak
Maybe try to restart the game (except if you already did it), I’ve already had this case when I launched the game and the launcher didn’t had time to run the update
deft carbon
@inner copper yeah... the same problem
dense plover
I haven’t had this issue. I’m so confused why I can play but others can’t. Where are you in the world irl? I’m thinking it might be an isp issue since ptr doesn’t have any other server hubs, only pacific coast
inner copper
europe
dense plover
Could definitely be some kind of isp connection issue. There aren’t EU ptr servers right?
deft carbon
I'm from Ukraine
dense plover
Like they’re the same as the US ones right?
deft carbon
but some people wrote about this problem on US forums
dense plover
Yeah I don’t think they’re on the west coast. If there’s some kind of theoretical blockage between the servers and states east of a certain point, everyone east of that point could have problems
Possibly
Or I could just be lucky
I don’t know enough about internet tech to be sure
We could try this. Try connecting to a pacific coast US server on live
For example, Hyjal US
If you can’t connect to that either, that’s the problem. If you can, it’s definitely something else
zealous basalt
Damn
dense plover
If it’s an isp connection issue, it’ll only happen when trying to reach the server location
zealous basalt
First classic and now PTR
dense plover
Classic is overloaded. It’s a different issue
zealous basalt
No no, eur had same issues with classic before
dense plover
Oh, because the test servers are in the US?
zealous basalt
ye
dense plover
Yeah. If you are NOT from the US west coast, and can’t play the test servers for either, but can play live, please try connecting to a server on the US west coast on live. If that still doesn’t work it’s an isp issue, otherwise, it’s a ptr or classic issue
zealous basalt
Do you know at what hour the test end?
dense plover
Nope
inner copper
honestly worgen females should have more glowing eye colors like the males
dull flame
Yes
languid yoke
honestly worgen males should have more customization options like the females
dull flame
More furr
inner copper
a tail!
deft carbon
more scars! (And a scar from worgen bite)
zealous basalt
no tails
plain vigil
This^
deft carbon
worgens (like werewolves) never had tails 🤔
deft carbon
But why do Worgens (like Werewolves in the Witcher) have only 4 fingers and toes - a mystery to me 👀
dense plover
Because wow logic? Not all races in wow have 5 fingers and toes and worgen are descended from night elf magic so
Does there really need to be an actual answer?
deft carbon
Any news about PTR?
mystic heart
@deft carbon disconnect only 😄
whole cedar
yeah I was logging in fine yesterday, but i started getting hit by the issue as well
hopefully they fix it tonight otherwise its gonna be another ptr-less weekend
zealous basalt
So Nery, what was the infamous blizz con build?
whole cedar
10pm PT
was on the tuesday of blizzcon week, the news team had headed out for dinner as people were arriving in California to cover the con
as we were preparing to leave the restaurant and go to our hotels (and I was ready to get some sleep because I was super jetlagged), build warnings went out
cue desperation to get everyone's laptops and cover them in a single hotel room lmao
mind you, we arrived in LA at 6am on that tuesday... my usual timezone is 5 hours ahead of PT... and I hadn't slept the entire day so it wasn't that fun
zealous basalt
holy
whole cedar
"sleep is for the weak" - blizzard
restive pasture
Yikes, that sounds rough
storm marsh
There is something I don't understand. How did Wrathion go to Karazhan and not meet Khadgar?
upper remnant
The tower is big / Khadgar already left / Blizz forget
modest temple
Khadgar also runs Dalaran, he has probably left by now.
I would like to see him and dalaran come back into play now that something more then the factions are out there. There is nothing saying the arcane or at least a city full of scholars, can't also help azeroth.
night swift
I mean, I don’t really want to go back to Dalaran after spending all of legion there
zealous basalt
Lagaran
plain vigil
I think Dalaran should be placed in a perminant spot, now that there's no locational threat, and there's no Undead plauge people near the original Location
terse patrol
I think Dalaran should be Alliance again.
Let us have a magic city again, the Horde’s got two.
plain vigil
Eh
sullen dawn
Dalaran should land back in its OG spot imo
Prolly best saved for world revamp tho. Make it a quest hub but not the expansions main sanctuary (i hate that only one city per expansion is relevant)
storm marsh
Omg that would be amazing
modest temple
We dont have to go back to it, but have that faction of useful and smart mages... be useful. An Old God got out, they can't afford not to help.
meager zodiac
this ptr cycle has been so boring 😦 i want all of it datamined but noooo
tropic trail
^ me 2
smoky mural
Me 3
forest sphinx
I think all of us do at this point
median monolith
is the PTR up rn?
forest sphinx
I haven't tired to log in yet today
inner copper
That recruit-a-friend mount... Wait weren’t they removing the feature for a while???
zealous basalt
You are right
tidal stone
They removed it for a little while so they could reform it
plain vigil
This^
tropic trail
It can’t fly it’s kinda meh rip
restive pasture
I'm thinking they are going to be adding more in before 8.2.5 goes live
Would be odd if the only reward was that one mount.
summer cobalt
I'd assume they're gonna bring back the old RAF mounts as well
restive pasture
I saw that, that's a good idea
terse patrol
Back to PTR watch this week.
deft carbon
PTR is working
terse patrol
Did it just come up? @deft carbon
mystic heart
can't change the server
deft carbon
Same
agile token
The council of ricks is hereby adjourned
zealous basalt
Who are you sacrificing wtf
cinder stirrup
The hypogriff in the back look how worried he looks
ionic terrace
storm marsh
I can see the cathedral in sw will be FLOODED with worgen 😂
tropic trail
Deus Vult will purge the furrys out of the City
you have not to worry, little one
terse patrol
Well, if they give Gilneas back, they can go there.
tropic trail
Did they add more eye changes to worgen females? Saw something in the screen shot with a faded eye but I was curious
forest sphinx
Is the PTR back up yet?
deft carbon
nope. getting WOW51900101 again 
hasty elbow
got instant dc upon "logging into server"
forest sphinx
I hope it gets back on soon
stiff vector
Some minor activity on pre-ptr servers so maybe a build soonish
This definitely seems more like a serverside issue rather than a clientside one though so not sure if it really needs a client build to fix
dense plover
We want a client build for more info
forest sphinx
Totally agreed there @dense plover . I want something more. I want to see what else you have in store for us.
uncut vault
Maybe this patch we’ll finally see Sylvanas for more than five seconds
Don’t disappoint me war campaign
forest sphinx
I want to know why we saw that model of Saurfang in the way he was
uncut vault
It was a generic orc death pose
One of a handful added to the orc skeleton
The only thing we know about Saurfang for 8.2.5 is his necklace being added
calm plank
what model of saurfang?
calm plank
that can't be good <.<
night swift
Blizz wouldn’t give him a generic pose if he was killed
tropic trail
Im hoping they explain us why Sylvanas used the blade or what Nathanos did with it
uncut vault
It wasn’t a generic pose, it’s a special animation, all orcs just have it
forest sphinx
I think it has to deal with the scenario
tropic trail
Saurfang is gonna die anyway, its a question when and how
I say he will die protecting zappy boi
dense plover
Saurfang uses the base orc skeleton with custom animations on top. The new orc death animation is because theirs was very lack luster and never updated like the others
calm plank
Makes sense
upper lantern
no PTR 😦
hasty elbow
Still can’t get in PTR? o.O
stiff vector
There was a new vendor build overnight, won't be surprised if we see that today/tomorrow.
round lake
the birdman always looking out
hasty elbow
still got instant dc upon "Logging into game server", i guess they might need to deploy new build for this?
dense plover
Likely
deft carbon
It's working for me.
deft carbon
And now its broken again...
tropic trail
I want a warcampaign build. really bad
terse patrol
tropic trail
do we have someone here who could translate the chinejoy interview that is in chinese? https://ol.gamersky.com/news/201908/1211061.shtml
A: As for Sylvanas, I can only say that I will occupy a lot of drama in the entire expansion of "Azerbaijan". As far as her role is concerned, we also have a very interesting story to bring to everyone, as to whether she will become the group BOSS, we can not elaborate now.```Thats what google translater translate me
uncut vault
cant believe Azerbaijan is the next xpac
tropic trail
probably an google translation failure. I dont think Azshara is called there "Isa", or...?
dense plover
Definitely google translate
It doesn’t do names
Especially ones that aren’t based on landmarks
tropic trail
Can they just release the race armor for worgen already I’m dying to see rip
tranquil steeple
that implies they'd release a functional ptr build to begin with
whole cedar
yeah its annoying.. was able to log yesterday, not today
uncut vault
the server issues dont seem to be related to a build, it fluctuates day by day, so no clue whats up
zealous basalt
They be trolling
ionic terrace
I can't 
languid yoke
me neither :<
ionic terrace
meh
tropic trail
forest sphinx
Other than the questline we got, Nothing else new yet
upper temple
I can connect, am happy
dull flame
and you wont get any of that
sullen dawn
I'm standing by my view that it'll be mechas,vulpera, redeemed (alliance undead), ??? (Maybe dragonkin using worgen rig for horde)
meager zodiac
2 redudant repeats for the alliance
2 original things for the horde
sure thing
at this point id rather have a 1 patch asspull race that has some potential for future development
than mechagnomes-light undead
who are basicaly creative dead ends
languid yoke
redundant repeats for alliance / original things for horde seems to be the theme for AR tho
sullen dawn
You might see it that way but I'd be more interested in the mechas and redeemed
Vulpera are gross to me
And dragonkin while cool wouldn't really be my style
And the dragon thing is just a crazy guess. I just cant think what else the horde could get with a worgen rig. Maybe saberon but seems a bit out of nowhere?
meager zodiac
i mean there is a level of taste but there is also design
languid yoke
cough sethrak
meager zodiac
i think mechas and redeemed
are terrible by design, and no amount of pretty models or good looking fluuf removes that
mechagnomes mix the redudancy of lightforged with the randomness of the concept of the void elves, are basicaly by the very core a static concept since as machines they dont realy evolve so that cuts any potential future
and light undead are pretty much a mocking and a travesty of undead lore spearheaded by calia, that makes medan look like a well writen and healthy characther
besides that, their effect on the alliance is basicaly a negative addition, on both cases
we already have a machine focused short ugly race
we already have pretty humans that love the light.
and we already have shiny lightforged humanoids with alabaster skin
there are faults in these races designs, execution and effect on the alliance, that even if you personaly like them you gotta admit, they are badly designed.
i like void elves, they are still a weird design with a terrible execution
dull flame
so much hate
sullen dawn
I still feel like redeemed could give a new unique feeling theme. Combine the lorderon culture (which the in game forsaken have all but abandoned) with a much more fanatical alignment with the light than stormwind humans
They fill the inquisitor/knight thing a lot better than stormwind humans and could be positioned as the 'evil'humans at least in terms of their moral compaaa
*compass
vast mirage
is PTR open?
meager zodiac
storm wind already carries that to a point
Adding something already there for the alliance makes it a negative addition
And knights are a storm wind concept even detailed in the first war
Lightforged have the “inquisition” concept quite under their hand
storm marsh
Dream come true for me: Redeemed (Alliance) human undead like Calia, Tigon (Horde) cat race that trolls transform into and use worgen model rig with a few special animations
tropic trail
@meager zodiac trust me, redeemed (undeads leaded by calia for the alliance) is a good thing, because this makes her not leading the Horde Forsaken.
Im 99% sure Calia will be an AR leader , leading undeads for the Alliance. If we didnt had that whole AR thing up, Calia would probably become the Forsaken Horde leader. And thats much worse then every light infused undead lore
dark furnace
Or the tiger people who escaped into the Barrens
languid yoke
those are saberon
also, about Tigons: If it stays like WoD they would look like
Saberon
Claws of Shirvallah wasn't a Saberon form, it was a Tigon form - but looked like Saberon
so both works for me
languid yoke
WoD races are one of the only good things about WoD tho 🙃
dark furnace
In the Maghar recruit scenario, some Saberon followed and fled into the Barrens along with the tree people
sullen dawn
I think one of the fake awakenings leaked talked about botani taking over feralas and some saberons/gronns establishing themselves in the barrens as part of the world revamp. Cool concept and gives value to wod races without having to update draenor or go back there
dark furnace
that was my first thought as well, a world revamp where the botani take over the barrens
terse patrol
Alliance Botani tho
smoky mural
Redeemed are a stupid idea that adds to flaming pile that is forsaken lore
terse patrol
So do Forsaken lol
languid yoke
we know some forsaken want to return to their alliance family, so clearly not all of them want everyone to become undead
languid yoke
and Botani seemed like a purely evil race during WoD. Saberon were simply ferals
sullen dawn
But right now botani are like a hivemind growth
terse patrol
Un-hive minded Botani lead by Aessina would be cool.
languid yoke
with some neutral/friendly saberon
terse patrol
Saberon would be a good chance for Horde to get the Worgen skeleton.
languid yoke
if factions do get removed for pve it doesn'T really matter anymore anyway B)
uncut vault
the botani themselves werent a hivemind, and some of them even joined the player after being brute strengthed into following
terse patrol
We should get a PTR build today.
strange falcon
How exactly did we get to botani allied race?
I thought furbolg(or similar) were "out there" enough,
Guess Theres a reason for the "campfire for allied race" memes
calm plank
first aid skill as an allied race
terse patrol
Botani are literally the night elf skeleton. @strange falcon
terse patrol
Furbolg do not use a player race skeleton.
zealous basalt
:T
terse patrol
Also, let’s be honest, furbolg aren’t really... trustworthy.
strange falcon
Rexxar uses the kultirans skeleton
terse patrol
Somebody even breathes on a furbolg and they go insane.
strange falcon
Doesnt mean his race Is going to be an allied race
strange falcon
Like a lot of people want wod arakkoa or other similarly unusual races
strange falcon
People were even speculating you'd get TBC arakkoa as male and WoD arakkoa as female
Also what makore said Is zandalari boomkin form
zealous basalt
Still, it's valid
terse patrol
That’s a pterodactyl-person form. But yeah, same skeleton.
zealous basalt
Not enough for me to play with a druid tbh
terse patrol
Arakkoa paladin.
strange falcon
I prefer my mooseform over arakkoa,though i was tempted for a very brief time
terse patrol
Get one of those raven mounts recolored white with a gold saddle as their mount. ❤
terse patrol
Ye. But the bird was a raven
strange falcon
The stormbird mount from wod Is still unused
One npc in the undercity siege scenario(Alliance side) used it
terse patrol
Got a pic? @strange falcon
strange falcon
Not at my PC,but i can tell you its One of the minibosses in the Bfa undercity scenario,specifically a shaman
That uses the Thunderbird/Raven model from wod thats unused
Alliance side
calm plank
Oh I remember this one
tropic trail
if shes talking about wow, some drama will happen in a cinematic and Sylvanas will be the reason
calm plank
<.<
uncut vault
drama is gonna happen in a cinematic regardless
calm plank
ye
terse patrol
By old, when did the tweet happen