Cause that's on her own views of what she does
#beta-ptr-spoilers
limber mural
sullen dawn
Yeh neutral evil with a dash of lawful evil
limber mural
Bruh. Evil implies she's doing these things because she knows they're evil
sullen dawn
no it doesn't
limber mural
Characters tagged 'evil' are almost always moustache-twirlers
terse patrol
Chaotic Evil was Grom imo. Again, chaotic evil doesnt mean evil for the sake of it.
limber mural
Sylvanas is, will, and always has acted for her own good
sullen dawn
maybe in the worst stories ever
tropic trail
yep, as I said before, Sylvanas is a neutral evil Character. She does evil stuff because its necessary for her and her people. Doing evil stuff because you want to survive is absolutely not chaotic evil
tropic trail
yes
sullen dawn
or rather a very selfious one (forsaken above all else)
plain vigil
I E wrathgate, The human head farms, burning of Teldrassil, random rage fits. All chaotic evil things that Sylvanas has done. And there's much... Much more. Like the plaugeing of Gilneas.
sullen dawn
they're weren't chaotic tho
plain vigil
Raising of the horde and alliance dead on battle of Lordaeron? Chaotic.
sullen dawn
she wanted to defeat gilneas while losing as few undead as possible
ivory meadow
she had a resource in order to push the alliance and she used it.
tropic trail
Wrathgate was not Sylvanas doing, this was also confirmed in Before the Storm again, pls let not start this discussion again
plain vigil
She still chose to invade gilnease without need.
limber mural
now I would say that neutral evil is evil for evil's sake
that makes sylvanas chaotic neutral
sullen dawn
even if she did wrathgate, she did it so she could a) take a swing at arthas and b) weed out the unloyal undead
plain vigil
My bad tilted on the one wrathgate point
limber mural
another definition of neutral evil is furthering one's own goals before any other, with no qualms about what needs done for it
which seems to be what you're all pushing
tropic trail
@plain vigil I feel you, my friend, are lacking on some lore parts
sullen dawn
yes emu we are
tropic trail
Sylvanas never invaded Gilneas in the first place, it was Garrosh who used her forsaken while she did suicide
limber mural
so honestly it's either chaotic neutral or neutral evil, depending on one's definitions of evil. Both are correct.
limber mural
hang on lemme just bold that to end the discussion
tropic trail
And Garrosh wanted Gilneas, Sylvanas had no choice to lead the attack
limber mural
It literally depends on one's definition of evil
tropic trail
otherwise Garrosh just sacrificed the forsaken there
limber mural
There's two
plain vigil
Garrosh didn't want Gilneas, he wanted more troops. She saw it as an opportunity to make more undead Tilted
sullen dawn
you're saying evil is people who do evil and they know it
i don't believe that's true, unless you're a terrible writer
limber mural
That is one of the accepted D&D definitions of evil
Which you're all citing with lawful good lawful evil etc etc
sullen dawn
not YOU btw, i mean you in the third person sense 😛
limber mural
ik ik
tropic trail
I can quote edge of night if you want, Garrosh was the one who attacked GIlneas while Sylvanas were still in Icecrown
sullen dawn
yeh garrosh ordered gilneas
limber mural
lemme do some cites real quick just so everyone's on same page
'A chaotic neutral character is an individualist who follows their own heart and generally shirks rules and traditions. Although chaotic neutral characters promote the ideals of freedom, it is their own freedom that comes first; good and evil come second to their need to be free'
'A neutral evil character is typically selfish and has no qualms about turning on allies-of-the-moment, and usually makes allies primarily to further their own goals.[9] A neutral evil character has no compunctions about harming others to get what they want, but neither will they go out of their way to cause carnage or mayhem when they see no direct benefit for themselves. Another valid interpretation of neutral evil holds up evil as an ideal, doing evil for evil's sake and trying to spread its influence.[9] Examples of the first type are an assassin who has little regard for formal laws but does not needlessly kill, a henchman who plots behind their superior's back, or a mercenary who readily switches sides if made a better offer. An example of the second type would be a masked killer who strikes only for the sake of causing fear and distrust in the community'
plain vigil
Bruh these books are so inconcistant than what we see in game 😅
tropic trail
I agree
limber mural
honestly the day book writers and game writers communicate will be momentous
tropic trail
thats what blizzard did since ever. You see not much ingame, most important stuff happens in the novel
most important stuff for a character*
limber mural
Sylvanas legitimately aiding against the Legion as well as also doing as she do now kinda says more chaotic neutral by that definition to me
She does whatever
If it favours her
sullen dawn
the books are canon tho Gandem
flint meteor
i dont think she is bringing destruction and raising everything as undead just because
sullen dawn
you can't just say they don't count
flint meteor
we still dont know her deal with helya
limber mural
the problem is
they do count
AND they're bizarre
@flint meteor i'm beginning to doubt that blizzard did tbqh
flint meteor
by her lines she doing it for a reason
sullen dawn
I'd like to think they think at least one expansion ahead
flint meteor
a big one
limber mural
Bruh I think they think one expac ahead but if they have a nice idea for the now they fly with it and think later
Sometimes it works
ionic terrace
We really need a lore channel
limber mural
In times of no ptr this is the lore channel
Just rename the place
ptr-lore-spoilers
ez
sullen dawn
or
ionic terrace
Lol I suppose
sullen dawn
'danger-zone'
limber mural
I mean am I wrong, when there's no ptr lore is the only thing ppl talk about here
sullen dawn
no
ionic terrace
I personally only come here for ptr stuff but yee
tropic trail
haha yea I see this as the lore channel too, when we dont have any PTR activity
ionic terrace
😉
uncut lintel
WORGENNSSS
uncut vault
I feel like a lot of people read the “bulwark against the infinite” quote very out of context
She wasn’t talking about them as meat shields
The whole story she DOES talk about using them as meat shields, with the “arrows in my quiver” line
And then when she sees hell, and sees the forsaken dying because of Garrosh’s campaigns, she returns
Them being her bulwark means that she hold them close to her and values them, and in turn they shield her against dying
Contrary to popular belief, a character can have noble intents and also have selfish ones
zealous basalt
what we all talking aboout now?
unborn glacier
@uncut vault Very true.
ivory meadow
That's hard facts @uncut vault
tropic trail
I just want allied race news
deft carbon
💛 those eyes! (screenshot from youtube)
uncut vault
I hope they get more than just gold, but the ones they have so far look very nice
languid yoke
inb4 females gets 5 new faces during ptr because boob gender, to no one's surprise
dull flame
😄 as femalio worgen player i wouldnt mind more tits and faces
they didint rly fix up that ugly round bra
languid yoke
nah give us more male options to balance it out a little bit, thanks
more than 5 skin colors
uncut vault
all white fur, please
upper temple
deft carbon
I hope once blizz will make more scars for all races. Or a scar option for customization
languid yoke
I hope they don't so we have something unique for male worgen
if we don't get more options, at least have us this unique one
deft carbon
Every worgen was bitten but we haven't any scar on hands or body
dull flame
😄 its not a vampire
unreal minnow
PTR still off come on
tropic trail
ptr wont come on , on a weekend. Its gonna be monday or tuesday
storm marsh
Next build probably
Btw i hope that face on the pic above is a bug because eye pupils arent visible on male worgen
And i hope for more colors
deft carbon
@storm marsh imo eye pupils looks good on female models .-.
storm marsh
I dk.. its just first impression
languid yoke
yes
vast mirage
where can i see them?
tropic trail
storm marsh
Female got new omni and direct spell "ready" animations
tropic trail
some producer said at the china thing (how ever it is called) that Sylvanas is not going to die. Not a big news, but nice to hear it once more
storm marsh
Yea
tropic trail
I want to kill Genn too, but Im a smart person and know that my feelings are my feelings, and that objectively genn is a good character
vast mirage
woah
tropic trail
storywise
vast mirage
they look so much better
i want a worgen now
does this mean i have to play alliance
languid yoke
yes
vast mirage
languid yoke
dw with 9.0 factions will be gone anyway 
languid yoke
one can dream
vast mirage
i would like that
because it means i could finally decide what to play
because i want to play both factions
storm marsh
The faction icon is not fake, but im 100% its just cosmetic
Choosing faction on any race would be ridiculous
tropic trail
I would not bet on that "the factions will go" thing
smoky mural
they just added the faction on the login they aren't going to remove them
vast mirage
What are you talking about? Faction on login?
smoky mural
tranquil steeple
TiltedElf already shared that link a bit earlier
uncut vault
Is there a translation?
smoky mural
Google translate
uncut vault
Well, I forget his name, but that picture is of a legit blizzard employee
He’s done multiple blizzcon panels in the past
smoky mural
Gregory port
uncut vault
Nah that isn’t Terran
tropic trail
it was said by John hight, and how people told me, he is like on of the biggest bois in blizzard or something
sullen dawn
just wondering the context is all 😛
agile token
lusty tendon
same, so excited to try the new model and animations on my worgen
uncut lintel
there sooo good
tropic trail
ptr still not up, right?
smoky mural
Tomorrow
zealous basalt
No pls
zealous basalt
miracle builds
sullen dawn
could be any time up to friday, and while i think it is tomorrow, dont get your hopes too high
not saying its 100% not today but mondays are unlikely unless they fix something today that they didnt have time for on fri
if it planned, today is out of the question most likely
stiff vector
Are PTRs up? I just got a notification from my monitoring system that they were
ionic terrace
Give me a second and I’ll check
ionic terrace
tropic trail
whuuuuuuuuuuut
stiff vector
do i have to repeat myself in caps
tropic trail
yes pls
tropic trail
stiff vector
i feel like i could have added 👏 emojis too
ionic terrace
lmao
tropic trail
yea, you should
stiff vector
nope.
zealous basalt
no
stiff vector
wanna see if party sync scales down all the way to 1
zealous basalt
worgen or rust
stiff vector
yes its up
stiff vector
i added a clap emojis but sadly the bot ruined it
ionic terrace
lol
uncut lintel
AHHHHH WORGENS
mystic heart
check quests but i don't found anything
tropic trail
no new dialogue? 😦
stiff vector
not sure @tropic trail
tropic trail
looks like we have to wait for second buiild
dense plover
Is very nice
stiff vector
wowhead probably hasnt scanned yet
zealous basalt
NZOTH
stiff vector
they came up about the same minute i sent the initial message
tropic trail
@zealous basalt nzoth?
zealous basalt
First things first
mystic heart
quests now like IDs
zealous basalt
Go back to Boralus and do magni questline
mystic heart
ionic terrace
lol
zealous basalt
hii
tranquil steeple
[insert "hi mom i'm on tv"]
zealous basalt
Okay im going to do this wrathion questline and then go with worgens
so far they look sick af tho
the new running animation for males is great
mystic heart
@zealous basalt how?
uncut lintel
ikr
mystic heart
how u take this quest with wrathion
storm marsh
Realms are up?!?
storm marsh
Its early in the morning at blizzard HQ
mystic heart
thanks i found
uncut lintel
goblins so good too
dense plover
female goblin faces are broken
uncut lintel
they look so cute oml
dense plover
mystic heart
someone check worgen-goblin quest
zealous basalt
uncut lintel
o god
stiff vector
looks fine to me
uncut lintel
crap
stiff vector
works on azerite lvl 57 atleast
zealous basalt
Eye ssee
languid yoke
OOO
storm marsh
Is there anything new that wasnt datamined/showcased?
storm marsh
Yes
zealous basalt
I think
this time datamine wasn't that effective
or everything was really encripted
languid yoke
hl again when you are done with the wrathion questline
or did you wanna raid gilneas alone
stiff vector
am i glad i copied a mage
storm marsh
There is a change
stiff vector
can do this questline in a jiffy
dense plover
What are the Shen'dralar?
zealous basalt
The highborne from uhh
stiff vector
dire maul elves
zealous basalt
Dire maul
meager zodiac
the dire maul night elves that rejoined their people in cata
storm marsh
To have a mount equipment, u need to be at least level 100, so this means low level alts will have to struggle with water walking while questing wtf
sharp gulch
can someone check the junglehopper model?
meager zodiac
well its a pity, the shendralar are canonicaly useless, oh well
storm marsh
New: they added our character in the mount journal - riding the mount
storm marsh
Lmao
stiff vector
yeah for gnomes its kinda ridiculous too
they fall on the mount when you transfer from large to small mount
storm marsh
Honeyback Harvester is the name of the bee mount
zealous basalt
huh
i didn't notice this before
then he fades away, i think he commits sepukku
storm marsh
Cant see anything related to worgen heritage
zealous basalt
5000
stiff vector
yeah but like twice at this point
unreal minnow
IS ptr on?
forest sphinx
There goes my weekend lol
stiff vector
...its monday
zealous basalt
lol
forest sphinx
and? I work for two websites so I'll be digging into this patch as much as I can
stiff vector
pft i work for none and i'm already mostly done with this patch
tropic trail
@zealous basalt wait what?
ionic terrace
beeeee where are you
stiff vector
did everything past weekend!
forest sphinx
Wait, is it really that small of a patch?
zealous basalt
I htink he meant 8.2
stiff vector
i mean so far it's not huge no
party sync might be neat
but i'm not sure how other than this quest how much additional stuff there is now PTRs are actually on
so far it just seems to be this quest but i'll have to delve into the cache later
languid yoke
no more broadcast text?
meager zodiac
those are probably not actualy void elves
stiff vector
did he just boosh sylvanas and anduin
meager zodiac
and just the model is being used
stiff vector
makore setting speedrun record for this quest
zealous basalt
Im a monk
stiff vector
at least mother calmed the fork down
stiff vector
so its bait
zealous basalt
stiff vector
you don't actually see him
zealous basalt
forest sphinx
Where do these quests begin?
dense plover
where does the worgen intro usually break?
zealous basalt
stiff vector
Boralus for me
stiff vector
fixed*
zealous basalt
broken
stiff vector
also did they break the minimap for chamber of hearts
dense plover
yes they broke the minimap
zealous basalt
Time to check Nazjatar
for the record i has already done Eternal
nope
nada
I guess that's it?
Unless its time gated as well
or in the worst of the cases
....
Linked to heart level
tropic trail
I think we need to wait for more builds
zealous basalt
ofuck
tropic trail
and nothing about Sylvanas/war campaign related quests?
zealous basalt
nothing
just this but i think it's a place holder
god damn it
its full of worgen today
dense plover
well, worgen run is still goofy
dense plover
think worgen intro isnt broken
zealous basalt
Since when gryphons can be pets?
storm marsh
I think they look awesome
zealous basalt
I don't remember it being so nicely
Did they change the voice of the worgen pcs?
zealous basalt
orly
languid yoke
don't think so, Makore
zealous basalt
I didn't know it
thanks blizzard
i didn't know that was the item i adquired
This is hilarius, really
Warriors got new baseline haste
storm marsh
Did anyone check gilneas yet? Non starting zone phase
Might be something for heritage
Imma check it
zealous basalt
go do dat
Anyone having a worgen lvl 1?
Aw, they didn't change the sfx of worgen players
LOL
SOMEONE'S HORSE DIED
storm marsh
Minor question: did they remove ironforge portal in 8.2 from boralus?
storm marsh
Is there a shred of humanity left within you?
zealous basalt
Before
storm marsh
Is there "even" a shred.... pardon me
zealous basalt
After
unreal minnow
Does it have bit different animations?
zealous basalt
Also
unreal minnow
Walking etc....
zealous basalt
Something I always disliked from the Worgen intro is that they kinda
start with the RP talk about you while the cutscene is in the way
zealous basalt
This part i mean
storm marsh
They never bothered to fix that
terse patrol
Am I the only one who kinda wishes Godfrey was still around and not undead.
storm marsh
I remember it being normal after the cinematic
terse patrol
Godfrey looked cool
terse patrol
I feel like Gilneans have kinda lost their Victorian dapperness.
zealous basalt
The one from Legion too
long blade
island expeditions too
terse patrol
Thats not worgen tho. But I guess it sort of counts now
terse patrol
Since they joined the Alliance in BFA
uncut lintel
So, 4 weeks till 8.2.5 goes live WoW?
terse patrol
6 at most.
uncut lintel
Ah ok
long blade
how come only some toons can be race changed in ptr?
storm marsh
I said this before, but I feel like this might be coming to piss off Greymane even more
Since Sylvie brought back Jaina's brother after being dead for 20 years
I wouldnt be surprised if she resses Liam Greymane
As... actual forsaken. Not that human form thing
terse patrol
They brought it up in Before the Storm
zealous basalt
A SHIT TON OF CLIPPING
storm marsh
Seems like there is nothing new in Gilneas
tropic trail
so much clipping
storm marsh
I wish they made this a captial city
And update it to boralus level aka add inns and stuff on the streets
mystic heart
Guys so heritage armor quests are available?
terse patrol
Gilneas would need to be redone.
It’s built to be a weird battleground.
The city, that is.
zealous basalt
Ouch
terse patrol
Oh, reminder that Kul Tiras is the only human nation whose capital isn’t named after their nation.
zealous basalt
Boralus is a good name
storm marsh
Lemme visit ol friend uther
tropic trail
helmets look funny on worgens
storm marsh
Ha
forest sphinx
Worgen models look A+
zealous basalt
what
storm marsh
Nothing new at uther's tomb
zealous basalt
Should try and find that new heartstone tavern
ionic terrace
whoops
forest sphinx
Was that a real thing?
ionic terrace
i don't think she should be using this model in legion content 😛
ionic terrace
sent
mystic heart
@ionic terrace looks like they just replace them LUL
ionic terrace
Light's blessing upon you.
I stand ready to help.
We all have our duty.
her new voice quotes
mystic heart
yea
storm marsh
Ingame she reminds me of uldaman statue
ionic terrace
^_^
storm marsh
I wonder whats the story behind her having 2 new modela
Models*
One with and one without the headset or whatever it is
Well I'm definetly making a male worgen outlaw rogue alt
zealous basalt
just look at her, another defenseless princess
storm marsh
Wish she turned into a savage worgen
Cool lore would be that she chooses to drink her father's blood in order to become a worgen - just to be stronger lorewise
storm marsh
Looooool
daring dune
I dont even know why leaders still were there
tropic trail
where is Tyrande now? lol
mystic heart
@tropic trail she gonna to nyalotha 😄
zealous basalt
storm marsh
Lmao
dense plover
well, fuck me
they might be messing with faction restrictions if theyre now putting the pandas in charge
thatll be weird if it actually happens
zealous basalt
you are thinking about it too far
dense plover
theres a lot of little things that are sort of pointing towards it
the addition of the faction icon to the load screen, the changes to the embassy
terse patrol
They removed references to the war with the Horde
dense plover
^
it seems like it might be a thing, probably not this patch
but maybe prepatch of next expac
dense plover
well
its still a theory
we will see in a few months with blizzcon probably
its definitely a more modern choice tho
back when wow started, faction specific races was standard
now its choose both
unborn glacier
No factions = the death of WoW
dense plover
tho it looks like allied races may still be restricted, which makes sense
unborn glacier
It is literally the core foundation of Warcraft
dense plover
nah, factions are still going to exist - if this happens it just means you get to choose
yes
it was the core foundation when wow started
and every other mmo at the time
unborn glacier
It should ALWAYS remain so
unborn glacier
Choosing what faction your race goes to is gross for this game
tropic trail
no factions gameplaywise will never happen
just alone because of the pvp
if it happens, then in the lore
zealous basalt
Visual glitch
dense plover
report it
calm plank
it's a pretty cool looking glitch tbh
modest temple
With Asya being in the center of the embassy, there looks to be more room for 2 more banners to her right and left.
meager zodiac
gee i wonder what the alliance will get 🙄
terse patrol
@meager zodiac whacha mean
meager zodiac
mechagnomes-light undead
uncut lintel
lol
tranquil steeple
on live
tranquil steeple
idk, haven't tried it out
I'm prolly just gonna google search "wow directx 11 vs directx 12 noticable differences" or someshit
rather than set it
tranquil steeple
actually, lemme go ahead and google that right now.
zealous basalt
Tmw lecturing skills weren't a thing in all schools
dense plover
When you don’t know what a pawn is
dense plover
Yeah, as I said, they probably fixed it
When you want to test animations, you end up going through the start area probably tens of times
Which leads to fixing every major bug
Plenty of smaller minor ones tho
Very very minor tho - so they might not get fixed
languid yoke
mountspecial animation still bugged
:(
thought they would fix with update. Did not
forest sphinx
Looks like it
tranquil steeple
yeah, it's not like that on live
languid yoke
I reported the animation bug so often by now
tranquil steeple
(pressing "find guild" brings up the window on the left)
forest sphinx
This is a nice addition. I can get behind that
scenic field
do the worgens and goblins get heritage armor ?
zealous basalt
Not in this build, no, probably in the next other, but they said they will put Heritage in this patch
scenic field
do they have any pics of it ? or not yet
stiff vector
it is possible it is in the build but encrypted
there's one large set of items that are encrypted under the same key
but we're not sure yet
zealous basalt
Ask brozzard for a key
zealous basalt
ez pz
tranquil steeple
@scenic field (with yellow/highlighted text's link) - https://www.mmorpg.com/world-of-warcraft/interviews/new-world-of-warcraft-82-info-tyrande-sylvanas-customization-oh-my-1000013638
zealous basalt
How can I trigger the faction change thing here?
scenic field
you have powers
tranquil steeple
in the mmorpg article, the goblin/worgen (& transmog/customization) stuff is near the bottom
mystic heart
@zealous basalt just copy ur character from retail
zealous basalt
i did
mystic heart
and find with this trigger
zealous basalt
what
mystic heart
this?
languid yoke
it rotates every few hours
balmy lynx
... please help me
uncut lintel
oh dear god
tranquil steeple
the face when frostbite is real
balmy lynx
^ it only happens on the DK's as well it seems
zealous basalt
So just delete and pray it falls on it?
languid yoke
or you wait til it rotates to faction swap while you're there. That's your two options
:D
dense plover
Oh damn, community guild finder thing is finally in
There’s been bits and pieces since the first build with the community system
zealous basalt
aint you playin peech?
dense plover
I’m fairly certain the end goal is full cross server guilds and a total removal of the old guild finder
Not currently, computer decided to do a windows update
It’s almost finished, after 2 fucking hours
dense plover
whisper “Kill...Me....”
dense plover
Either way, I want to try out level sync and the new community finder, and hopefully I will be able to in a bit
On a slightly different note, wowhead made an excellent point that using the pandaren NPCs in the embassies does help with future proofing. The example they made with mekkatorque is a good point
This way you don’t have the old three warchiefs problem
Or the, go see varian, and you are talking to anduin
uncut vault
I dont know why, but it feels like they backtracked on a lot of the work goblins got shown with at Blizzcon
my guy's face doesnt move at all beyond slightly opening his mouth during casting animations
same as the old model
forest sphinx
How long was 8.2 up on the PTR before it went live?
forest sphinx
My flying animation keeps getting stuck
Stays like that and won't change until I press the LMB
civic pulsar
So i saw Wrathion was added with a new model and theres also a quest line regarding him? What are the requirements for it on the ptr because i really wanna do that quest line when it comes out but wanna make sure ive done everything i need to first since im still a bit of a fresh 120
zealous basalt
I wouldn't know tbh
night swift
Idk ifthe quest is even unlocked for testing yet
civic pulsar
ahh okay! :0 i wasnt sure if it was released for testing or not yet so i figured id ask
zealous basalt
It is Jhock
forest sphinx
I just finished the questline that deals with Wrathion but I didn't see his new model.
tropic trail
^
zealous basalt
Jebaited
tropic trail
same just did it
night swift
Ah shit it is up lol
tropic trail
i wonder if he is actually supposed to be there or no..
civic pulsar
Are there any requirements for it like a certain heart of azeroth level or doing certain quests beforehand? Atleast that you guys know of lol
forest sphinx
I don't think they've unlocked that part of the Wrathion storyline yet
dense plover
^
probably encrypted
so, quick test with new guild finder
category drop down lets you select multiple
then you select size, small, medium, or large
then you can select spec type - tank, heal, dps
then search
you can also refine the search by literally searching the name of a guild
seems to be realm specific as there are none on my realm
does anyone have a lvl 120 druid to check the dreamgrove for anything new?
theres a scenario that might be available
MAYBE
zealous basalt
no
long blade
they always do?
uncut vault
The special lines got removed in WoD
dense plover
^
i think they were broken so they hard disabled them
from what I remember in the beta, they wouldnt shut up
they tried a bunch to fix them, couldnt so they just stopped it
uncut vault
I think they fixed it by not having it be constant
Ive only heard the "Check out that arena game last night?" line from my imp once
dense plover
a new building
or a new quest
might be using an old building
would be inside
Specifically in the dreamgrove
ionic terrace
don't see anything yet
nope
though Rensar and Hamuul are 120 and 123 now
not sure if they are on live
ye not seeing anything, sorry
uncut vault
The drip fed lore content is gonna kill me lol
I get why they’re doing it, but man is it gonna be slow
forest sphinx
This patch doesn't seem to be that big honestly in terms of content. Unless they are doing another content phase?
zealous basalt
its the first build
terse patrol
Calia’s model is in, so I assume this patch will be her introduction.
Then again they added Wrathion and we don’t see him yet in PTR.
dense plover
so
let me sum up what we have seen vs what we know is probably here
endgame we have seen? 1 wrathion quest
what we know there probably is
a scenario in the dreamgrove that has a fancy hearthstone tavern
work on, or a finished version of a warfront
a followup wrathion questline where we meet and likely talk with wrathion
some kind of questline with calia
likely 1-2 cutscenes
maybe more
heritage armor quests for worgen and goblin and the armor itself
dense plover
OH
and the timewalking raid
and the OTHER timewalking raid (anniversary)
and the world stuff that comes with the anniversary
quest sync
theres a bunch of stuff here
zealous basalt
has someone tried quest sync
dense plover
i havent
but i want to
problem is we need a low level character, probably 20-80
because lots of the quests before 20, especially race intro ones, likely dont sync at all
uncut vault
I really wonder how they’re gonna work Calia in
she seems to not really fit anything else this patch
terse patrol
My guess is the Scarlet stuff.
@uncut vault
I mean, her outfit has red gems. I could see it being a hint that she takes control of the Scarlets and turns them into Light Undead.
uncut vault
I can only hope
forest sphinx
I could for sure level a toon up to 20 at some point during the week to see
uncut vault
maybe the velonara stuff is being made Horde only
and then the alliance version is cleaning up the aftermath of corpses with Calia
terse patrol
Ehhhh
Hard to say. The
The quest involves you being approached by the hunter dude to save Velonara on both Horde and Alliance.
Which is weird af.
round lake
so wait do we know the end game?
terse patrol
“Ah yes, I, an Alliance member, will save one of Sylvanas’ dark rangers.”
uncut vault
well thats what I mean
maybe theyre going to give alliance their own scarlet stuff
instead of piggybacking on the Horde one for no good reason
terse patrol
Maybe. I think they want the Horde and Alliance to witness Calia’s introduction tho.
uncut vault
perhaps theyvel earned from the Void elves, and are introducing stuff this patch
but not instantly making them playable
terse patrol
I kinda think they’re going to build them up in this patch and 8.3, then release them for 8.3.5
For like the next-expansion pre order incentive or something.
smoky mural
Is the dark ranger in game yet
dense plover
the scenario? no
we have the strings from when it was first implemented, but i imagine it has probably changed a bunch, if they are even still going to use it
OH YEAH
has anyone tried to see if the bee quest is a thing?
uncut vault
I would, but my bee pet didnt xfer over for some reason 😦
but yeah, I imagine the story surrounding the velonara stuff is going to change a bit if it ever does get implemented
dense plover
HOLY SHIT - allied race starting gear is now transmog material
like the big ass draenei mace for lightforged paladins
night swift
Oh those starting weapons 👀👀
dense plover
yeah i opened my transmog collection and noticed that weapon was there
also i have no clue how to start the bee quest
might need to complete the bumbles quest first....
dense plover
yeah
im working on doing it first
oh fuck
it has to be done for 7 days
im not testing this
FUUUUU
tulip sun
dense plover
theyve been in for a while
thats why its likely that if its gonna be used, it will not be the same as what was datamined
zealous basalt
Wonder if tomorrow there is going to be a build
forest sphinx
Could there be one that soon?
zealous basalt
idk
zealous basalt
wut flashing
forest sphinx
Low health flashing?
stiff vector
there's some graphical flashing for some people
stiff vector
though maybe they should just update drivers to see if that helps
there was an nvidia driver recently with a fix for that specifically in wow
uncut vault
I havent gotten any
stiff vector
me neither
deft carbon
This lower lip is so buggy
uncut lintel
o god
ionic terrace
Interesting, this is a legacy achievement now
languid yoke
some are
night swift
The ones that don’t follow Moira are
strange falcon
tropic trail
lol
languid yoke
he's a good fluff anyway
dark furnace
The Honeyback faction seems really good
No timegating
I just really hope they make it both Horde and Alliance
So both sides can use the mount
dark furnace
Yeah thats what I meant
But in the article the mount is Alliance only
As in only Alliance can ride it
dense plover
So I was right, it does need bumbles
zealous basalt
bumbles?
zealous basalt
How do you get it?
dark furnace
I have no pets on the PTR so I can't test it either, even though I have it in the live game
dense plover
You get it by killing bees above seeker’s vista in stormsong. It’s a random drop
Not the pet tho
dark furnace
Then you do a daily quest chain
dense plover
You get an Amulet
dark furnace
For 7 days
dense plover
Then you go to scribes and nobles in boralus
zealous basalt
Cant we buy it?
dense plover
Then you return to mildenhall meadery
Then do a daily for 7 days
No you can’t buy it
zealous basalt
fuck
dense plover
Which makes testing this hard
dense plover
The pet is sort of time gated
zealous basalt
it feels like this is the reward
dense plover
But after that it’s just a massive rep grind
Tho it is a unique mount, and it’s definitely easier than requiring a raid
And this will be something you can come back to next expac with no problem
zealous basalt
ya
dense plover
I hope they let horde use it like alliance with kuafon
dark furnace
I already leveled a Demon Hunter on Alliance and did the dailies, so I really hope I can use it on Horde as well
zealous basalt
How much rep is from neutral to exalted?
uncut lintel
Can Horde ride the bee mount if u get it on alliance?
zealous basalt
atm no
uncut lintel
D:
zealous basalt
We gon require
215 of the royal jelly
to reach exalted
...which is not bad at all
So
im stuck in the loading screen to dalaran
eh
darnassus
dense plover
It is definitely a reference to that
sharp gulch
the worgen female running animation feels weird
limber mural
lemme check
i think it's always been a bit odd like that
if anything that seems more normal to me
well. as normal as a werewolf walkin can be
languid yoke
at least the male one looks real good
zealous basalt
asking please
inner copper
?
night swift
I think you turn it on in accout settings on the website
Then just go to the launcher and install it
inner copper
Everyone can access it?
night swift
Yep