#beta-ptr-spoilers | Wowhead: World of Warcraft (WoW) | Page 488

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 3:18 PM

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Because they added some stuff in the last patch to make the holdover better

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Allied races and the level revamp

terse patrol Jul 30, 2019, 3:18 PM

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Pre patch is usually 2 weeks long I think

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 3:19 PM

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We might expect something similar with 8.3.5

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And it might last closer to 8 months

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In which case the very latest I see 9.0 is mid October

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2020

plain vigil Jul 30, 2019, 3:20 PM

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Well again, the gap between 7.3 and 8.0 was a full year almost. It was supposed to be longer than that

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 3:20 PM

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How long between 7.3.5 and 8.0?

plain vigil Jul 30, 2019, 3:21 PM

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16 of Jan Soooo 7 months

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 3:21 PM

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Yeah

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So assuming they release 8.0 mid November, expac release in sept or oct isn’t out of the question

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IMO December is probably too long assuming the last raid is in December

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A year from the last raid is too long

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10 months is still a lot but it’s not as bad

plain vigil Jul 30, 2019, 3:22 PM

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Christmas releases are successful too. We could see the X-Pac release in October, but I would estimate after blizzcon 2020

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 3:22 PM

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Nah

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That’s a waste

plain vigil Jul 30, 2019, 3:22 PM

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Probably November like WoD

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 3:23 PM

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If they talk about 9.0 at this Blizzcon then Blizzcon 2020 is best spent on the upcoming content

plain vigil Jul 30, 2019, 3:23 PM

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Well I'm going off of the time between legion and BFA, and you see how well BFA went at launch 😂

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 3:23 PM

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IE patch 9.1 and 9.1.5

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They don’t do the same expac at Blizzcon twice

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Not if they can avoid it

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cough WoD cough

plain vigil Jul 30, 2019, 3:25 PM

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8.1 was released in December so like 5 months. Honestly they could just go into more detail on things in the Xpac. I'm only expecting small details for this blizzcon. Hell we may even only get 8.3 announcement now that I think about how tight they've been keeping patch Spoilers

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 3:26 PM

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Btw, someone ping me when servers go down - I’m about to start work so I won’t be able to watch

plain vigil Jul 30, 2019, 3:26 PM

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I solomly swear I will not ping you if the servers are still up. 😃

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 3:26 PM

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I mean, didn’t they show the sargeras cinematic before the raid?

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It’s not unheard of

plain vigil Jul 30, 2019, 3:26 PM

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Nope

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They did not

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 3:27 PM

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I thought they did

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Huh

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it’s all guessing at this point ¯_(ツ)_/¯

plain vigil Jul 30, 2019, 3:29 PM

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Wowheads upload was Nov 28th, almost a month after blizzcon

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Which is the same day as that raid's release

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 3:33 PM

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What was the wow panel at that Blizzcon?

plain vigil Jul 30, 2019, 3:42 PM

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BFA

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Wait

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Whoa

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This is like a matrix moment

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 3:48 PM

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Btw just confirming that the build is almost definitely today - muffinus replied to the T&E video about the ptr on Twitter with this emoji 😇

storm marsh Jul 30, 2019, 3:51 PM

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Cant wait for tonight

agile token Jul 30, 2019, 3:51 PM

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Man

storm marsh Jul 30, 2019, 3:52 PM

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Gilneas will rise again

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Greymane will lead us to victory

uncut lintel Jul 30, 2019, 3:52 PM

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yess

zealous basalt Jul 30, 2019, 3:54 PM

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Inb4 new starting deaths

ionic terrace Jul 30, 2019, 3:55 PM

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OMEGAPOGGERS

plain vigil Jul 30, 2019, 3:56 PM

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Welp... Time to play my worgen again

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98-120 can't be too slow

storm marsh Jul 30, 2019, 3:56 PM

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Something under your cloak smells heavenly

zealous basalt Jul 30, 2019, 3:57 PM

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Heavenly?

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Like the legendary cloaks

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Imagine having an item that gives ilvl increases to old legendaries

languid yoke Jul 30, 2019, 3:58 PM

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98-120 with party sync might be bearable

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and about muffinus: To be fair, they talked about him in the weekly reset

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about how mischievous he is

plain vigil Jul 30, 2019, 3:58 PM

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'''After the events of Legion, the World Soul of Azeroth is dying and its essence is bleeding to the surface. This new resource, called Azerite, feeds your medallion and lets you unlock latent properties hidden in the armor you'll be finding on the high seas. The more powerful your amulet, the more powerful bonuses you can unlock in your armor. "The Heart of Azeroth is the focal point of your character's progression throughout the expansion," said senior game designer Jeremy Feasel.

So they did announce BFA, but they didn't explain why Azeroth was bleeding @dense plover

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 3:59 PM

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Tbh bare minimum we should expect new login screens for worgen and goblin and ideally some polish on their starting zones

plain vigil Jul 30, 2019, 3:59 PM

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That was from an article about BFA's announcement

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 3:59 PM

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Both, especially gilneas, are a bit buggy

languid yoke Jul 30, 2019, 3:59 PM

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gilneas battle quest bugs more with every xpac

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sometimes it gets minor fixes

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then it breaks again

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 3:59 PM

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And assuming that the heritage quests will take us back, there’s no reason not to use some updated assets for polish purposes

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Especially since new models means more people starting new gobs and worgen

languid yoke Jul 30, 2019, 4:00 PM

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you know what's worse? You can't exit Gilneas anymore by walking to the edge between Gilneas and Silverpine Forest and teleport to Westfall

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because you'll get ported back to the starting area instead

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 4:00 PM

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I imagine the starting experience will see a lot of fixes this patch since people will be testing the new models and how they break old cinematics

zealous basalt Jul 30, 2019, 4:01 PM

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AHAHAHA

languid yoke Jul 30, 2019, 4:01 PM

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yeah

zealous basalt Jul 30, 2019, 4:01 PM

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I mean

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So sad

languid yoke Jul 30, 2019, 4:01 PM

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I wish they would, at least

plain vigil Jul 30, 2019, 4:01 PM

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@zealous basalt interesting concept. I think it'd be a bit broken. But what if, counter idea, they bring back all the real legendaries, and maybe 1 per class from legion, and revamp them to fit today's mechanics? Like thunderfury

languid yoke Jul 30, 2019, 4:01 PM

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and then add worgen monks

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nyab

uncut lintel Jul 30, 2019, 4:01 PM

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plz

storm marsh Jul 30, 2019, 4:01 PM

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Well that would be a pleasant surprise

plain vigil Jul 30, 2019, 4:02 PM

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Worgen monks and DK's

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Wait

zealous basalt Jul 30, 2019, 4:02 PM

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Dah

languid yoke Jul 30, 2019, 4:02 PM

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we have DKs

plain vigil Jul 30, 2019, 4:03 PM

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Ik that was a joke about Zandalari Mag'har KulTiran and Dark iron

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 4:03 PM

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We won’t see any new class combos mid expac

languid yoke Jul 30, 2019, 4:03 PM

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yeah ik, it's wishful thinking. Even for 9.0 it's only wishful thinking

plain vigil Jul 30, 2019, 4:03 PM

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There's really no reason they shouldn't have DK lorewise. But as we saw from islands, they'll be coming 9.0 or later

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 4:04 PM

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But with updated models, I wouldn’t be surprised to see them next expac

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They’ve held off BECAUSE of how broken they are

plain vigil Jul 30, 2019, 4:04 PM

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I just realized new DK customization for gobbos and worgen

uncut lintel Jul 30, 2019, 4:04 PM

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when the new worgen and goblins would they give us free appearence changes or somthing

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to change ur look

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 4:05 PM

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Barber

storm marsh Jul 30, 2019, 4:05 PM

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I wonder if they're gonna fix that worgen female DK bug with faces

plain vigil Jul 30, 2019, 4:05 PM

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Question is... Will they be Allied race quality or Wod quality?

zealous basalt Jul 30, 2019, 4:05 PM

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Ye

languid yoke Jul 30, 2019, 4:05 PM

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Worgen/Goblin monk animations don't even look that bad

uncut lintel Jul 30, 2019, 4:05 PM

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barber has all the options???

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 4:05 PM

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You can do all of that at the border

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Barber

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Yes

languid yoke Jul 30, 2019, 4:05 PM

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They look quite good, actually

uncut lintel Jul 30, 2019, 4:05 PM

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oh

plain vigil Jul 30, 2019, 4:05 PM

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All but gender

uncut lintel Jul 30, 2019, 4:05 PM

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dint know that

languid yoke Jul 30, 2019, 4:05 PM

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except for flying serpent kick

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flying serpent kick is awful on worgen

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 4:05 PM

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Worgen monk makes no sense

storm marsh Jul 30, 2019, 4:05 PM

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Their animations are also getting updated

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 4:05 PM

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They can’t control their emotions in combat

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That’s the opposite of monk

storm marsh Jul 30, 2019, 4:05 PM

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Alongside the flying serpent kick haha

plain vigil Jul 30, 2019, 4:06 PM

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No You make no sense 😭

agile token Jul 30, 2019, 4:06 PM

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📎 Genn_Stare_BfA_teaser.mp4

storm marsh Jul 30, 2019, 4:06 PM

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Good boy gen

uncut lintel Jul 30, 2019, 4:06 PM

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HOOOT

restive pasture Jul 30, 2019, 4:06 PM

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Worgen monks would be Sha food in combat

storm marsh Jul 30, 2019, 4:06 PM

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Genn*

plain vigil Jul 30, 2019, 4:06 PM

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Hmmm peach has a point

languid yoke Jul 30, 2019, 4:06 PM

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mh I still think the ways of monk could help the internal human/worgen conflict in battle and fight in a less feral manner

plain vigil Jul 30, 2019, 4:07 PM

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Tbh tho kinda surprised they haven't given us Pandaren monks yet

zealous basalt Jul 30, 2019, 4:07 PM

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And how does void elf monk work

plain vigil Jul 30, 2019, 4:07 PM

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Also a good point Makore

agile token Jul 30, 2019, 4:07 PM

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I am just wondering if we will focus on pandaren and something else in 8.3

plain vigil Jul 30, 2019, 4:08 PM

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Although I'd argue the velf idea is that they're constantly trying to keep control, which is in line with monka

agile token Jul 30, 2019, 4:08 PM

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after all blizzard said we are getting to see all sides of the war

languid yoke Jul 30, 2019, 4:08 PM

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the only reason worgen and goblins didn't get monk was "tHeY nEvEr MeT pAnDaReN"

uncut lintel Jul 30, 2019, 4:08 PM

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i want earrings for worgen

languid yoke Jul 30, 2019, 4:08 PM

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fast-forward to Legion and apparently 1 month of training is enough to make nightborne, velfs and HMT monks

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same with bfa AR

uncut lintel Jul 30, 2019, 4:08 PM

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i love nightborne monks

languid yoke Jul 30, 2019, 4:08 PM

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I hate nightborne monks

zealous basalt Jul 30, 2019, 4:08 PM

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And my human spent 18 years to even master it

uncut lintel Jul 30, 2019, 4:08 PM

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o

storm marsh Jul 30, 2019, 4:08 PM

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Of all things I'm mostly interested in colorful glowy eyes for female worgen that they promised. Wondering how is that going work out.. seperate customization?

night swift Jul 30, 2019, 4:08 PM

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Then theres zanda monks

dark furnace Jul 30, 2019, 4:09 PM

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Probably same as Night Elf eyes

uncut lintel Jul 30, 2019, 4:09 PM

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i hope seperate..cuz i dont want glowy eyes on my fem worgen

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 4:09 PM

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Void elves aren’t succumbing to emotions

languid yoke Jul 30, 2019, 4:09 PM

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I want my unglowy eyes for some male worgen

uncut lintel Jul 30, 2019, 4:09 PM

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looks alot prettier with regular eyes

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 4:09 PM

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They are using the void

night swift Jul 30, 2019, 4:09 PM

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You know, the race that pandas made the monk fighting style to combat

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 4:09 PM

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It’s not the same

plain vigil Jul 30, 2019, 4:09 PM

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Yeah, all sides of the war ~~except Pandaren~~

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 4:09 PM

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Yeah

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I’m still pissed about Zandalari monks

languid yoke Jul 30, 2019, 4:09 PM

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you could argue that monk traditions can help a worgen be more peaceful

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 4:09 PM

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That shouldn’t have happened

languid yoke Jul 30, 2019, 4:09 PM

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opposite was never proven, was it

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Zandalari monks are lul

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 4:10 PM

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To be a monk you need inner peace

zealous basalt Jul 30, 2019, 4:10 PM

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Eh

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 4:10 PM

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Worgen literally give that away in exchange for control of their curse

zealous basalt Jul 30, 2019, 4:10 PM

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I thought Mogu were the ones that made pandas become monks

languid yoke Jul 30, 2019, 4:10 PM

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Inner peace?

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You mean like Taran Zhu?

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🙂

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(you don't need perfect balance of inner peace)

plain vigil Jul 30, 2019, 4:10 PM

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Peach can't Zandalari be monks tho?

languid yoke Jul 30, 2019, 4:10 PM

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(clearly)

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they can, which is dumb

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and they can't be warlocks, which is also dumb

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hardly any AR can be warlocks for w/e reason

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there's more druid AR than warlocks

zealous basalt Jul 30, 2019, 4:11 PM

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Because they are op

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And they need

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Balance

languid yoke Jul 30, 2019, 4:11 PM

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OUT

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:(

zealous basalt Jul 30, 2019, 4:11 PM

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Which is why there are druid ARs

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dabs

languid yoke Jul 30, 2019, 4:12 PM

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angrycog

plain vigil Jul 30, 2019, 4:12 PM

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It's okay! ~~Everyone will be able to play necromancer class skin for warlock next Xpac ~~

languid yoke Jul 30, 2019, 4:12 PM

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fuck necromancers, d3 should've gotten druids instead of witch doctor clone

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that class is dead to me for all games now

agile token Jul 30, 2019, 4:13 PM

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Ok but guys what is important here, we are going back to gilneas for the worgen heritage armor right...

languid yoke Jul 30, 2019, 4:13 PM

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hopefully

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we don't know yet

umbral lake Jul 30, 2019, 4:13 PM

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Well at the very least zandalari have been to pandaria before and some might’ve picked up some monk stuff

languid yoke Jul 30, 2019, 4:13 PM

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but if we don't there will be rabid furries at blizzard HQ

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including me.-

plain vigil Jul 30, 2019, 4:13 PM

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Or we take back Lordaeron

agile token Jul 30, 2019, 4:13 PM

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Hell no

zealous basalt Jul 30, 2019, 4:13 PM

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Why not

agile token Jul 30, 2019, 4:13 PM

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It makes sense to move from stromgarde up to gilneas

languid yoke Jul 30, 2019, 4:13 PM

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yeah but zandalari and pandas didn't really have a peaceful history with each other

zealous basalt Jul 30, 2019, 4:14 PM

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Stromgarde>Hillsbrad>Gilneas>Lordaeron

plain vigil Jul 30, 2019, 4:14 PM

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Gilneas geographically is very unstable. Having them resettle in silverpine and tyrisfall makes sense

agile token Jul 30, 2019, 4:15 PM

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Gilneas isn't a complete ruined city with blight

plain vigil Jul 30, 2019, 4:15 PM

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New Gilneas

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Not Yet ~~okay I'll stop~~

umbral lake Jul 30, 2019, 4:16 PM

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Still you can learn about the monk stuff even if you’re not friendly, maybe study under one of the celestial as they would have been considered loa

storm marsh Jul 30, 2019, 4:16 PM

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Revamped Gilneas would be nice, but will probably never happen

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Watch Sylvanas bring back Liam Greymane haha

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 4:17 PM

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I don’t think gilneas will be revamped with this

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But I wouldn’t be surprised if they update some stuff while they fix it

storm marsh Jul 30, 2019, 4:17 PM

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Yea

zealous basalt Jul 30, 2019, 4:17 PM

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Its a good place to Rp tho

agile token Jul 30, 2019, 4:18 PM

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If it was inhabited

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By new player model heritage armor worgens

ionic terrace Jul 30, 2019, 4:18 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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how nice

agile token Jul 30, 2019, 4:18 PM

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bacWut

ionic terrace Jul 30, 2019, 4:18 PM

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I can't wait

uncut lintel Jul 30, 2019, 4:18 PM

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that looks painful

agile token Jul 30, 2019, 4:18 PM

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#WorgensNeedTails

uncut lintel Jul 30, 2019, 4:19 PM

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yes

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but we aint getting it

ionic terrace Jul 30, 2019, 4:19 PM

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play a race with tails if you want tails

uncut lintel Jul 30, 2019, 4:19 PM

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but wolfs are best animal race

agile token Jul 30, 2019, 4:19 PM

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Pandaren have stumps

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Draenei isn't furry

uncut lintel Jul 30, 2019, 4:19 PM

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pandas are too fat

agile token Jul 30, 2019, 4:20 PM

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No

ionic terrace Jul 30, 2019, 4:20 PM

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blobunamused

agile token Jul 30, 2019, 4:20 PM

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Never too fat

uncut lintel Jul 30, 2019, 4:20 PM

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why not too fat

ionic terrace Jul 30, 2019, 4:20 PM

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i regret everything

uncut lintel Jul 30, 2019, 4:20 PM

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lol

agile token Jul 30, 2019, 4:20 PM

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Because

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Pandauwu

uncut lintel Jul 30, 2019, 4:21 PM

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well im just happy worgens are getting an update....ive loved them for so long but hated their models that i rarely played them

zealous basalt Jul 30, 2019, 4:21 PM

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No you

uncut lintel Jul 30, 2019, 4:21 PM

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oh ok

storm marsh Jul 30, 2019, 4:22 PM

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Beta/alpha cataclysm hairstyles were better

languid yoke Jul 30, 2019, 4:22 PM

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pandas are fluffy

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good pillows

zealous basalt Jul 30, 2019, 4:28 PM

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REALMS

terse patrol Jul 30, 2019, 4:28 PM

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I want the new goblin models so they don’t look like meth addicts.

zealous basalt Jul 30, 2019, 4:28 PM

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are still up

agile token Jul 30, 2019, 4:29 PM

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Goblins will be meth addicts more than ever before after BFA

dull flame Jul 30, 2019, 4:29 PM

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😹 not coming today it seems 😛

agile token Jul 30, 2019, 4:29 PM

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They re-discovered/realized Kaja'mite this expansion, this isn't talked about much

terse patrol Jul 30, 2019, 4:29 PM

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Eh, half the goblin females look like Faces of Meth. They have clearer complexions now.

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Unless they redid them since Blizzcon.

agile token Jul 30, 2019, 4:30 PM

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Even matthias shaw says they will outsmart the gnomes soon

languid yoke Jul 30, 2019, 4:30 PM

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blizz only really started working like 30 minutes ago

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please

terse patrol Jul 30, 2019, 4:30 PM

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Still hate that they gave gnomes bags under their eyes.

agile token Jul 30, 2019, 4:30 PM

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Now is the time to start playing goblin

dark furnace Jul 30, 2019, 4:31 PM

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Goblin master race

languid yoke Jul 30, 2019, 4:31 PM

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thank god the worgen/goblin preview didn't have them become depressive

agile token Jul 30, 2019, 4:31 PM

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They have all the azerite in the world and they will become smart AF again with Kaja'mite after BFA

languid yoke Jul 30, 2019, 4:31 PM

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so we don't have to fear that happening to them

terse patrol Jul 30, 2019, 4:31 PM

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Dark Irons I think canonically take the Motherlode though

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So I think the Dark Irons are in a strong position

zealous basalt Jul 30, 2019, 4:33 PM

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Dark irons can dig anything

obtuse vine Jul 30, 2019, 4:33 PM

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Yeah, then can even dig to another planets xd

agile token Jul 30, 2019, 4:34 PM

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Yo I bet the digging to china joke is an even stronger joke on azeroth

zealous basalt Jul 30, 2019, 4:34 PM

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China would be orgrimmar

obtuse vine Jul 30, 2019, 4:35 PM

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They can even dig to alternative draenor

agile token Jul 30, 2019, 4:35 PM

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No no

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China would be to outland

zealous basalt Jul 30, 2019, 4:35 PM

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They dig below the dark portal

terse patrol Jul 30, 2019, 4:35 PM

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Tbh Dark Irons give the Alliance crazy siege utility

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“lol walls ok cool”

languid yoke Jul 30, 2019, 4:36 PM

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DID do. LFD do. Guess what we're not using

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Or, guess what we're solely using. Yes, ships! Tons of ships! NOTHING ELSE BUT SHIPS

terse patrol Jul 30, 2019, 4:36 PM

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Naval warfare should be obsolete now

languid yoke Jul 30, 2019, 4:37 PM

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because why would we go through the ground or through the sky with powerful machinery when you can just get a ship and have the ship be sunken every time you do literally ANYTHING

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looks at BoD

obtuse vine Jul 30, 2019, 4:37 PM

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If they can dig to alternate draenor lore wise they can dig to any other planet and in any time. Holy shit they are better than bronze dragons

languid yoke Jul 30, 2019, 4:37 PM

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looks at Nazjatar

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looks MoP

terse patrol Jul 30, 2019, 4:37 PM

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Thaurissan Did Nothing Wrong

plain vigil Jul 30, 2019, 5:00 PM

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0-3 hours remaining

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 5:03 PM

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Uh more like 4-5 hours

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3-4

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Sorry

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2-3pm is best bet unless the servers go down before 1

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If they go down before 1, 1-2

uncut lintel Jul 30, 2019, 5:03 PM

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if they do go down, how long will it take for them to be back up

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with the patch

zealous basalt Jul 30, 2019, 5:04 PM

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A long time

uncut lintel Jul 30, 2019, 5:04 PM

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rip

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 5:04 PM

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A couple of hours

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Depends on the patch size

uncut lintel Jul 30, 2019, 5:05 PM

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ah ok thx

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 5:07 PM

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Maybe more

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If the deploy succeeds

sullen dawn Jul 30, 2019, 5:07 PM

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datamining doesnt require server to be back up tho right?

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 5:07 PM

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No

sullen dawn Jul 30, 2019, 5:07 PM

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it just needs patch data

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 5:07 PM

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It just requires the patch

sullen dawn Jul 30, 2019, 5:07 PM

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yeh grand

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cheers

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 5:08 PM

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Within 30 min of the patch going out, datamining will be happening

sullen dawn Jul 30, 2019, 5:08 PM

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awesomesauce

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 5:08 PM

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But goblin and worgen models will probably take some time

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Processing animations is hard

sullen dawn Jul 30, 2019, 5:08 PM

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not too concerned about them

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seen them already and i know i like them

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 5:08 PM

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Music, map files, maybe some other stuff

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Music probably won’t be in this build tho

sullen dawn Jul 30, 2019, 5:08 PM

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voiceovers? quest strings?

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 5:09 PM

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Text of voice overs and the strings yeah

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VO probably won’t all be in

terse patrol Jul 30, 2019, 5:09 PM

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hanos I wanna see the heritage armor.

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 5:09 PM

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Maybe a third of it if we are lucky

stiff vector Jul 30, 2019, 5:09 PM

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quest strings not yet usually

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server has to be up for those

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 5:09 PM

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The heritage armor won’t be done

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Oh I meant like - the quest text

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I thought those were in the files?

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Are they server side!

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?

stiff vector Jul 30, 2019, 5:10 PM

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as far as i know most are yeah

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technically most of the non content-files database information can be

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they don't have to ship those to client neccesarily

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can just feed client with hotfixes when you grab the quest

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one of the easier ways for them to make it more annoying for us 😛

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text of voice overs is also serverside

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the good stuff at least

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 5:13 PM

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Wait but I’ve seen the text of npcs and stuff in files before

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Like right when the build goes up on your site

stiff vector Jul 30, 2019, 5:13 PM

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yeah there's an offline broadcasttext db

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but a lot of it is filled in by server when you request it

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 5:13 PM

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Ah ok

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So that’s why you get partial dialogue

stiff vector Jul 30, 2019, 5:14 PM

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some stuff it won't send you either unless you're on a specific quest or something i think

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 5:14 PM

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Huh

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Well either way there should be some good stuff in this first build without the servers

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And more with it

stiff vector Jul 30, 2019, 5:15 PM

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yeah unless it's all encrypted

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then yeah

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 5:15 PM

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I hope not

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I don’t think they would do that to everything

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Just the secret stuff

stiff vector Jul 30, 2019, 5:15 PM

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overwatch gets away with it 😄

sullen dawn Jul 30, 2019, 5:15 PM

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overwatch has no story 😛

stiff vector Jul 30, 2019, 5:16 PM

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oof

zealous basalt Jul 30, 2019, 5:16 PM

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Rekt

stiff vector Jul 30, 2019, 5:16 PM

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by that logic all of wow definitely has to be encrypted then 😛

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because all of overwatch is

ionic terrace Jul 30, 2019, 5:18 PM

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Encrypt me

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 5:22 PM

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Overwatch is encrypted to attempt to halt cheating

#

Probably

#

Maybe

tropic trail Jul 30, 2019, 5:22 PM

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i already want to see the new AV mounts..

zealous basalt Jul 30, 2019, 5:23 PM

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Like in game?

tropic trail Jul 30, 2019, 5:25 PM

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who are you asking that, Makore?

stiff vector Jul 30, 2019, 5:25 PM

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nah @dense plover also against mining/leaks

zealous basalt Jul 30, 2019, 5:26 PM

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If you are meaning that you want to see the mounts in game

stiff vector Jul 30, 2019, 5:26 PM

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the overwatch dataminers got told off a bit for mining PTR

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so they just mine retail now

ionic terrace Jul 30, 2019, 5:26 PM

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This person on the forums saying next weekend for PTR is wishful thinking LUL

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They are in for a surprise

uncut lintel Jul 30, 2019, 5:26 PM

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new AV mounts?

stiff vector Jul 30, 2019, 5:26 PM

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i mean it could be if something comes up

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wouldn't be the first time

tropic trail Jul 30, 2019, 5:26 PM

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yes i want to see them ingame

ionic terrace Jul 30, 2019, 5:26 PM

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FeelsSadMan please no

tropic trail Jul 30, 2019, 5:27 PM

#

📎 Screenshot_20190730_122734.jpg

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@uncut lintel ^

uncut lintel Jul 30, 2019, 5:29 PM

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oooooooo

tropic trail Jul 30, 2019, 5:30 PM

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i wonder how much currency the mount will cost

zealous basalt Jul 30, 2019, 5:30 PM

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I suppose 5

tropic trail Jul 30, 2019, 5:31 PM

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so that would be maybe doing it 5 times

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if it costs 5 thats

terse patrol Jul 30, 2019, 5:32 PM

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We need an Alterac Valley revamp.

tropic trail Jul 30, 2019, 5:33 PM

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i agree ^

unborn glacier Jul 30, 2019, 5:33 PM

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And it needs to go back to its old style of play

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Where it takes hours of play to complete

zealous basalt Jul 30, 2019, 5:33 PM

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Like Original Ashran?

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That has the epic bg version and the brawl

#

.

#

?

tropic trail Jul 30, 2019, 5:36 PM

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im guessing like they did with Warsong & Arathi Basin

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 5:42 PM

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Battle charger is gonna be a ram based off the dark iron Paladin model

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And the wolf is gonna be a white version of the Maghar wolf

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But

#

Hopefully this will be the opportunity for them to update the ram and wolf models

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Both of which are pretty much just porter WC3 models

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Porter

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Ported

#

Motherfucking autocorrect

deft carbon Jul 30, 2019, 5:43 PM

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yeah that's would be nice

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 5:43 PM

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Those WC3 models gotta go

tropic trail Jul 30, 2019, 5:44 PM

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so the Battle Charger thats ingame already with armor like Dark Iron/Dwarf Pally mount? or something like that?

deft carbon Jul 30, 2019, 5:44 PM

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mew mount models for drarf paladins are so cool

terse patrol Jul 30, 2019, 5:44 PM

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I hope the battle charger is red.

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Because if its YET ANOTHER gold and blue mount

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Ugh

tropic trail Jul 30, 2019, 5:44 PM

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it should be white with red

deft carbon Jul 30, 2019, 5:45 PM

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https://www.wowhead.com/item=19030/stormpike-battle-charger

Wowhead

Stormpike Battle Charger

A mount collection item. It is sold by NPCs. In the Mount Items category. Added in Classic World of Warcraft. Always up to date with the latest patch.

terse patrol Jul 30, 2019, 5:46 PM

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Stormpike colors are red and gold. So the armor should be red and gold.

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But recent Blizzard designs have been braindead Alliance/Horde color schemes.

tropic trail Jul 30, 2019, 5:47 PM

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it better not be blue and gold

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lol

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 5:48 PM

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It’s likely a direct reskin of the old AV mount

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That’s why I’m saying they might finally update the rams and wolves, two of some of the oldest models left in the game

terse patrol Jul 30, 2019, 5:48 PM

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pls

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 5:48 PM

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Then they just gotta update the giraffes and Gnolls and that’s pretty much it

tropic trail Jul 30, 2019, 5:48 PM

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https://www.wowhead.com/item=116777/vicious-war-ram#screenshots:id=423372

Wowhead

Vicious War Ram

A mount collection item. It is sold by Necrolord Sipe. In the Mount Items category. Added in World of Warcraft: Warlords of Draenor. Always up to date.

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 5:49 PM

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Probably even newer

terse patrol Jul 30, 2019, 5:49 PM

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Though, they updated nightsabers yet didn’t update the vanilla nelf models.

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 5:49 PM

#

Look at the updated pally mount

#

Well they haven’t updated the old mounts

#

Are the in world ones updated?

terse patrol Jul 30, 2019, 5:49 PM

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Ye. In Darkshore at least.

#

idk about elsewhere

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 5:50 PM

#

They won’t update the old mounts unless they are sure they captured its essence

#

Like with kodos

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Where it’s a direct upgrade and it’s perfect

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It’s the reason we haven’t gotten gnolls

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They need it to be perfect

tropic trail Jul 30, 2019, 5:50 PM

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https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/716120.jpg

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something like that one?

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 5:50 PM

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Yeah that guy

ionic terrace Jul 30, 2019, 5:50 PM

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Servers still up btw 😛

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 5:50 PM

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That’s 100% gonna be the base model they use

ionic terrace Jul 30, 2019, 5:50 PM

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in case anyone was wondering

tropic trail Jul 30, 2019, 5:51 PM

#

but need way less armor lol

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 5:51 PM

#

It’s still very early

tropic trail Jul 30, 2019, 5:51 PM

#

needs*

ionic terrace Jul 30, 2019, 5:51 PM

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Yes peach ik

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 5:51 PM

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Wait 1-3 hours

#

Today is very likely

ionic terrace Jul 30, 2019, 5:51 PM

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I know

#

I'm just stuck at home, bored FeelsBadMan

tropic trail Jul 30, 2019, 5:52 PM

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Pad

#

get on PTR and sit there until servers go down

ionic terrace Jul 30, 2019, 5:53 PM

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Already on it 😛

tropic trail Jul 30, 2019, 5:53 PM

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Lol

uncut lintel Jul 30, 2019, 5:55 PM

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ping me if they go down

#

ill be on allll day

storm marsh Jul 30, 2019, 6:34 PM

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I bet the gnolls will get updated in next expansion and they will be active at quest zones

terse patrol Jul 30, 2019, 6:38 PM

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If they redid Alterac Valley, they’d have to redo gnolls.

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Since gnolls are npc mobs in AV.

stiff vector Jul 30, 2019, 6:39 PM

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didnt they already

ionic terrace Jul 30, 2019, 6:39 PM

#

?

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Gnolls?

#

Nope

stiff vector Jul 30, 2019, 6:39 PM

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hmk

uncut vault Jul 30, 2019, 6:39 PM

#

You might be thinking of quilboar

stiff vector Jul 30, 2019, 6:39 PM

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ah probably yeah

tropic trail Jul 30, 2019, 6:42 PM

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give

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👏

#

me

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👏

#

PTR

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👏

#

NOW plzzz

ionic terrace Jul 30, 2019, 6:43 PM

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not yet

stiff vector Jul 30, 2019, 6:43 PM

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what if it already came out but its so boring nobody newsed it

#

🤔

ionic terrace Jul 30, 2019, 6:43 PM

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😛

#

I'm playing it right now

stiff vector Jul 30, 2019, 6:44 PM

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nice.

ionic terrace Jul 30, 2019, 6:44 PM

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I have to go out though, so it's bound to go down

stiff vector Jul 30, 2019, 6:44 PM

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i'll pretend to go to bed in like an hour

#

with our powers combined it'll be released

zealous basalt Jul 30, 2019, 6:52 PM

#

Now?

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 6:54 PM

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Probably around 1 or 2pm like expected

zealous basalt Jul 30, 2019, 6:54 PM

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Its 1pm for me

#

Iunless you mean their hours?

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 6:54 PM

#

PST

#

Always PST

#

That’s Blizz time

agile token Jul 30, 2019, 6:57 PM

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so 2 hours

uncut lintel Jul 30, 2019, 6:58 PM

#

do u need wow time to play ptr?

agile token Jul 30, 2019, 6:58 PM

#

yes

uncut lintel Jul 30, 2019, 6:58 PM

#

fuc

#

my wow time ends in like 1 hour and idk if money

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 6:58 PM

#

No

#

No you don’t

uncut lintel Jul 30, 2019, 6:58 PM

#

oh

#

thx

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 6:59 PM

#

But you’ll probably want to hop on and copy your characters you want to test

#

Dunno how that works when unsigned

#

Unsubbed

uncut lintel Jul 30, 2019, 6:59 PM

#

it wont reset characters?

#

like when patch comes

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 7:01 PM

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Dunno

uncut lintel Jul 30, 2019, 7:01 PM

#

oh

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 7:01 PM

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It’s a .5 so 50/50

uncut lintel Jul 30, 2019, 7:01 PM

#

ah

#

thank

agile token Jul 30, 2019, 7:05 PM

#

hmm

stiff vector Jul 30, 2019, 7:13 PM

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soo no maintenace yet

#

and no vendor maintenance yesterday

#

[x] mild worry

hasty elbow Jul 30, 2019, 7:16 PM

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😦

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 7:16 PM

#

I wouldn’t

#

It’s early

#

And they don’t need vendor maintenance if the build they’re pushing is the same

#

Also this wouldn’t be the first time ptr shut down right before the build

#

That’s pretty common

stiff vector Jul 30, 2019, 7:17 PM

#

i mean they need PTR maintenance

#

vendor servers are separate

#

though i guess theoretically they could have a/b'd it

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 7:18 PM

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Yeah but like - if they’re gonna bring em down later, why do maintenance before

#

Why not do it at the same time

stiff vector Jul 30, 2019, 7:18 PM

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because thats what they always do

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 7:18 PM

#

Or why bother - you’re putting out a new build

#

They can take them down before the build goes out

#

Then do what they do for the next few hours

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

stiff vector Jul 30, 2019, 7:18 PM

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last vendor maintenance was friday, if that is the build they're going with then fine

#

there's just usually some activity before something ships to PTR

#

not seeing any yet

#

there's more activity on classic test servers amusingly 😄

ionic terrace Jul 30, 2019, 7:19 PM

#

catscream

hasty elbow Jul 30, 2019, 7:20 PM

#

How long until "just expected it on Thursday instead"?

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 7:20 PM

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

They put out dev notes

stiff vector Jul 30, 2019, 7:20 PM

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about 5-6 hours

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 7:20 PM

#

Usually those are around the same time

stiff vector Jul 30, 2019, 7:20 PM

#

then it's likely not today

tropic trail Jul 30, 2019, 7:20 PM

#

its gona be this day. like 99%

uncut lintel Jul 30, 2019, 7:21 PM

#

hopefuly

stiff vector Jul 30, 2019, 7:21 PM

#

busiest time build wise is coming up in an hour or so i think

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 7:24 PM

#

1-2 hours

stiff vector Jul 30, 2019, 7:24 PM

#

that'd be right after lunch for them right

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 7:25 PM

#

A bit more but yes

#

Lunch is like 12-1230

#

It’s right now

#

Could be 1230-1 for some people

#

It’s probably staggered over 2 hours

#

Probably between 12 and 2

#

But 1-2 is peak build time

#

So 30 min

#

Maybe 2 hours

#

It’s kind of around then

ionic terrace Jul 30, 2019, 7:39 PM

#

Lol

#

Well I’m just praying for today

agile token Jul 30, 2019, 7:40 PM

#

ree

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 7:42 PM

#

It’s super early. Calm the fuck down

#

Come back in 4 hours to reee

#

Then it’s appropriate

stiff vector Jul 30, 2019, 7:42 PM

#

looks like someone else needs calming jeez mrpeach

#

language.gif

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 7:42 PM

#

XD

#

I wish I could post gifs

#

I wanted to post a Go the fuck to sleep gif

languid yoke Jul 30, 2019, 7:43 PM

#

I wanna sleep

#

:(

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 7:43 PM

#

So you got the humor

stiff vector Jul 30, 2019, 7:43 PM

#

do what i do to calm down

#

watch some dr steve brule

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 7:43 PM

#

Just sleep - if you miss anything it’ll be there when you wake up

agile token Jul 30, 2019, 7:43 PM

#

It's too late for europe

#

1SkyfoxZzz

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 7:43 PM

#

They don’t do this on EU time

#

So yeah

#

Sleep

#

Could be 4 more hours

languid yoke Jul 30, 2019, 7:44 PM

#

worth the wait

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 7:44 PM

#

Or even tomorrow or Thursday

#

Who knows

languid yoke Jul 30, 2019, 7:44 PM

#

it'll be tomorrow for europe anyway because even if the servers go down now, they'll probably stay down for a few hours

#

I'll just watch mario maker streams til I fall asleep in my chair

#

and then when I wake up it's 2 AM and ptr is just coming up

ionic terrace Jul 30, 2019, 8:22 PM

#

blah

plain vigil Jul 30, 2019, 8:24 PM

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Still no PTR... Oof

restive pasture Jul 30, 2019, 8:26 PM

#

It's only 1:30 in California, there's still time

agile token Jul 30, 2019, 8:27 PM

#

23:27 here

restive pasture Jul 30, 2019, 8:28 PM

#

11:30 pm?

#

(11:27 pm rather)

hasty elbow Jul 30, 2019, 8:29 PM

#

03:28 am here i guess i will j..u..st zzzzz

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 8:29 PM

#

There’s like 4 hours before you should worry

#

I wish we still had a Blizz employee

#

I wish they would just tell us if it was a build day or not

zealous basalt Jul 30, 2019, 8:30 PM

#

Who was our blizz employe before? The ox right?

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 8:31 PM

#

Yeah

#

😢

restive pasture Jul 30, 2019, 8:31 PM

#

Do we still have a resident blizz person?

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 8:31 PM

#

No

restive pasture Jul 30, 2019, 8:32 PM

#

☹️

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 8:32 PM

#

At least, not openly?

zealous basalt Jul 30, 2019, 8:32 PM

#

imagine if the bossman was here

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 8:32 PM

#

Or anyone

restive pasture Jul 30, 2019, 8:32 PM

#

Yeah... I imagine there are probably a few silently watching

#

From the shadows.....

lone marten Jul 30, 2019, 8:33 PM

#

mrpeach = ion

hasty elbow Jul 30, 2019, 8:34 PM

#

Khadshades

restive pasture Jul 30, 2019, 8:34 PM

#

That would be hilarious

#

Ion playing the long game

zealous basalt Jul 30, 2019, 8:35 PM

#

Doesn't he though?

#

I think someone here posted one his character

#

man had almost everything in exalted

restive pasture Jul 30, 2019, 8:36 PM

#

I wonder if he actually grinded everything to exalted our used his magical blue powers to help himself along..

ionic terrace Jul 30, 2019, 8:37 PM

#

ionwhat

#

Mr. Blizzard, tear down these servers!

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 8:43 PM

#

XD, if I was ion there would be 1-2 more base abilities per spec, at least one more talent tier, the grey artifact abilities not the big gold ones would be level up rewards, and there would be a bunch of new talents to replace old ones

#

Bam

#

Also I would make sure frost stays dual wielding because I think it’s a good change

#

Also ranged shaman would be redone from the ground up with a focus on totems and fling elements

#

Flinging

zealous basalt Jul 30, 2019, 8:46 PM

#

flong

night swift Jul 30, 2019, 8:49 PM

#

Yeet rocks at the enemy

tropic trail Jul 30, 2019, 9:15 PM

#

Im sick. How long will this torture last?

terse patrol Jul 30, 2019, 9:17 PM

#

sadcat

#

I need stuff to complain about.

zealous basalt Jul 30, 2019, 9:18 PM

#

Let's complain aout

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 9:18 PM

#

2 hours to lose hope, 4 until hope is lost for the day

tropic trail Jul 30, 2019, 9:18 PM

#

thats what Im doing right now

zealous basalt Jul 30, 2019, 9:18 PM

#

How we will crucify muffins if he lied

languid yoke Jul 30, 2019, 9:18 PM

#

;_;

meager zodiac Jul 30, 2019, 9:24 PM

#

after the delays for 8.1 and 8.2, im not expecting anything

flint meteor Jul 30, 2019, 9:25 PM

#

well he might have replied for the mention of him on the video and not the ptr itself

#

GWbratWhy

zealous basalt Jul 30, 2019, 9:26 PM

#

how could this happen 2 me

meager zodiac Jul 30, 2019, 9:28 PM

#

not the first time they trolls us, i dunno why your surprised

agile token Jul 30, 2019, 9:28 PM

#

Are we there yet

meager zodiac Jul 30, 2019, 9:29 PM

#

each second that passes points more to "no"

ionic terrace Jul 30, 2019, 9:34 PM

#

PepeCry

zealous basalt Jul 30, 2019, 9:35 PM

#

Patrick is sad

storm marsh Jul 30, 2019, 9:36 PM

#

Realms are still up?

plain vigil Jul 30, 2019, 9:36 PM

#

We have 3 hours left

ionic terrace Jul 30, 2019, 9:37 PM

#

Yes

languid yoke Jul 30, 2019, 9:38 PM

#

I want my doggooooos ;_;

deft carbon Jul 30, 2019, 9:38 PM

#

We need our worgens)

restive pasture Jul 30, 2019, 9:39 PM

#

About what time during the day was the 8.2 PTR released?

ionic terrace Jul 30, 2019, 9:43 PM

#

poggies

uncut lintel Jul 30, 2019, 9:43 PM

#

i also want my wolfys

ionic terrace Jul 30, 2019, 9:43 PM

#

wait what

meager zodiac Jul 30, 2019, 9:44 PM

#

we at denial BOISS

restive pasture Jul 30, 2019, 9:44 PM

#

?

#

Wait, is something happening?

stiff vector Jul 30, 2019, 9:44 PM

#

no

ionic terrace Jul 30, 2019, 9:44 PM

#

they changed the submission version to 1.13.2 lol

stiff vector Jul 30, 2019, 9:44 PM

#

just a classic build

#

back to waiting

ionic terrace Jul 30, 2019, 9:44 PM

#

mm

restive pasture Jul 30, 2019, 9:44 PM

#

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

ionic terrace Jul 30, 2019, 9:44 PM

#

i got excited

uncut lintel Jul 30, 2019, 9:44 PM

#

rip

deft carbon Jul 30, 2019, 9:44 PM

#

sad

stiff vector Jul 30, 2019, 9:45 PM

#

it is not even a new classic build

restive pasture Jul 30, 2019, 9:45 PM

#

I bet they are messing with us

stiff vector Jul 30, 2019, 9:45 PM

#

yes that's why they put work into shipping classic builds

#

totally messing with us

#

i'm sure

ionic terrace Jul 30, 2019, 9:45 PM

#

ree

restive pasture Jul 30, 2019, 9:45 PM

#

They might even be watching this channel

#

"hey, let's update one of the classic builds and see what they do"

uncut lintel Jul 30, 2019, 9:46 PM

#

lmao

meager zodiac Jul 30, 2019, 9:49 PM

#

mhh i have a feeling there wont be anything worth keeping myself away for

night swift Jul 30, 2019, 9:49 PM

#

Well this is a .5 build

#

But you never know

agile token Jul 30, 2019, 9:50 PM

#

Omg

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 9:54 PM

#

Just wait

#

If it doesn’t happen it doesn’t happen

stiff vector Jul 30, 2019, 9:57 PM

#

Atleast we know they can still find the button

agile token Jul 30, 2019, 9:57 PM

#

mehchro

stiff vector Jul 30, 2019, 9:57 PM

#

Progress is progress

languid yoke Jul 30, 2019, 10:03 PM

#

but I've been waiting for 5 years ;_;

agile token Jul 30, 2019, 10:12 PM

#

oof1

tropic trail Jul 30, 2019, 10:24 PM

#

Im close to giving up and just go to sleep

meager zodiac Jul 30, 2019, 10:36 PM

#

I’m already in bed lol, tomorrow it is with luck, let’s hope it’s not Friday

tropic trail Jul 30, 2019, 10:53 PM

#

Im waiting 1h more , if nothing happens then fuck it

dense plover Jul 30, 2019, 10:53 PM

#

Pretty much

tropic trail Jul 30, 2019, 11:06 PM

#

i guess we need to wait until tomorrow

storm marsh Jul 30, 2019, 11:17 PM

#

Well

#

Good night yall

upper remnant Jul 30, 2019, 11:18 PM

#

🌙

tropic trail Jul 30, 2019, 11:24 PM

#

I dont know if this means anything, but jeremy tweeted 16 mins ago , last time it was 8h

plain vigil Jul 30, 2019, 11:36 PM

#

That ain't it cheif

📎 image0.png

restive pasture Jul 30, 2019, 11:51 PM

#

It could be a clue pugthink

tropic trail Jul 31, 2019, 12:00 AM

#

frigg them all, im out

cyan needle Jul 31, 2019, 12:02 AM

#

tomorrow is another day

plain vigil Jul 31, 2019, 12:19 AM

#

📎 image0.gif

flint meteor Jul 31, 2019, 12:26 AM

#

So thursday prob?

#

GWgoaSadness

dense plover Jul 31, 2019, 12:40 AM

#

any time this week

#

could be tomorrow

agile token Jul 31, 2019, 4:49 AM

#

Interesting

dull flame Jul 31, 2019, 7:26 AM

#

😂

#

Ppl hardcore waiting for ptr... its not 8.3 so why being so hardcore its only worgen models pepe

uncut vault Jul 31, 2019, 7:28 AM

#

because unless blizzard goes bonkers with even more teasing

#

this will show us the general direction of how the xpac will end

tropic trail Jul 31, 2019, 7:32 AM

#

its not only worgen models.

languid yoke Jul 31, 2019, 7:54 AM

#

only updated models we've been waiting for 5 years now

deft carbon Jul 31, 2019, 8:04 AM

#

Worgen & goblin models and armor for them)

#

That's why ppl waiting 8.2.5

#

And Vol'jin storyline too

sullen dawn Jul 31, 2019, 8:57 AM

#

I don't think we'll see any Vol'jin stuff this patch tbh

#

Baine, Jaina, Thrall sure

#

Sylvanas maybe

#

N'zoth prolly not

#

Vol'jiin,death stuff, nah

uncut vault Jul 31, 2019, 8:59 AM

#

It’s sad that Sylvanas, the initial face of the xpac and instigator of all the conflict

#

Is a maybe

smoky mural Jul 31, 2019, 8:59 AM

#

we only have 2 patches she has to be a must

#

even voljin has to be a must

sullen dawn Jul 31, 2019, 11:38 AM

#

Vol jin i think is next expansion (if death focused)

#

Sylvanas will be big in 8.3, maybe well get somethjng 8.2.5 but could go either way

#

I mean its not that unusual. Big bads always get focus at start and end of expansion, not so much middle

tropic trail Jul 31, 2019, 12:01 PM

#

Im sure the question who whispered to make Sylvanas warchief will be revealed in BfA

#

so Voljin questline will 100% continue at the latest in 8.3

#

and continue into new xpac

sullen dawn Jul 31, 2019, 12:54 PM

#

Maybe in 8.3

agile token Jul 31, 2019, 1:02 PM

#

Is it out yet?

#

suspicioussip

languid yoke Jul 31, 2019, 1:06 PM

#

ask yourself this: Are there any HD Worgen or Goblin in #screenshots or #transmog or #latest-news-old ? If the answer is no, then no.

dull flame Jul 31, 2019, 1:21 PM

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Not today

agile token Jul 31, 2019, 1:22 PM

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InuHmm

restive pasture Jul 31, 2019, 1:30 PM

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It's 6:30 AM Blizzard time, kinda early to be giving up on PTR.

plain vigil Jul 31, 2019, 2:04 PM

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Nwolf spitting out Facts and Logic

terse patrol Jul 31, 2019, 2:11 PM

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If I’m not screeching about something, PTR isn’t out.

languid yoke Jul 31, 2019, 2:28 PM

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I'm so drained out because I was too excited yesterday

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ptr better drop today while I'm asleep ~.~

tropic trail Jul 31, 2019, 2:29 PM

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same

dense plover Jul 31, 2019, 2:57 PM

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Could drop today tomorrow or Friday

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I really thought it was gonna drop yesterday - maybe they’re having issues

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Could be crashing or something they want to test might not be working

restive pasture Jul 31, 2019, 3:24 PM

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Could be

languid yoke Jul 31, 2019, 3:24 PM

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whatever it is it killed me inside

tropic trail Jul 31, 2019, 3:26 PM

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maybe its the new models not working properly lol

restive pasture Jul 31, 2019, 3:27 PM

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Well whatever it is, this is a perfect example why they don't announce exact release dates for PTR patches

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Don't wanna get everyone's hopes up in case something goes wrong.

obtuse vine Jul 31, 2019, 3:28 PM

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Well they didn’t announce the exact date

restive pasture Jul 31, 2019, 3:29 PM

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I know

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I never said they did

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I'm just saying that's why they don't.

obtuse vine Jul 31, 2019, 3:29 PM

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Oh right I read it wrong sry

languid yoke Jul 31, 2019, 3:32 PM

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I get why they don't, but i still find it shitty to get our hopes up with dev notes posted before the ptr is up (why would they even do that, I could swear that's a bfa-only thing) and with the suspicious muffinus tweet (suggesting something broke yesterday)

restive pasture Jul 31, 2019, 3:33 PM

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Which tweet was that?

languid yoke Jul 31, 2019, 3:34 PM

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always fridayest before tuesday?

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the one that was referenced daily since friday lul

restive pasture Jul 31, 2019, 3:34 PM

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Ahhh

languid yoke Jul 31, 2019, 3:34 PM

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https://twitter.com/Muffinus/status/1154828040557301765

Jeremy Feasel (@Muffinus)

It's always Fridayest, before a Tuesday

storm marsh Jul 31, 2019, 3:34 PM

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Do you know what I was wondering, how Khadgar said he won't participate in this faction war, but is he going to stay silent during nzoth threat?

agile token Jul 31, 2019, 3:35 PM

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Pretty sure he won't be

restive pasture Jul 31, 2019, 3:35 PM

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Yeah, that tweet does sound pretty suspect

languid yoke Jul 31, 2019, 3:35 PM

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he's probably like "wHeRe Is ThE tIdEsToNe?ß??ß?ß?"

restive pasture Jul 31, 2019, 3:36 PM

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Khadgar is definitely going to make an appearance before the end of the expansion

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Things have gotten too weird for him to just sit on his butt in Karazhan

storm marsh Jul 31, 2019, 3:37 PM

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Knowing blizzard, they wont make him return

restive pasture Jul 31, 2019, 3:37 PM

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Guess we will need to just wait and see

dense plover Jul 31, 2019, 3:53 PM

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I think they’ll wait until the very end

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We need a break from that wizard

tropic trail Jul 31, 2019, 4:28 PM

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yea that tweet was the reason why I was hyped for Tuesday

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I hope something happened that they did not released it yesterday, otherwise its just a dickmove

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at least for EU players, who are waiting to 2 am

languid yoke Jul 31, 2019, 4:29 PM

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it'd killed me inside even if I was living in California and already knew at 7 PM it's not happening

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but yeah.

dense plover Jul 31, 2019, 4:44 PM

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It really did seem like muffin was hinting at a build and stuff didn’t work out

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It should still be this week tho

sullen dawn Jul 31, 2019, 5:02 PM

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My bet is that scaling thingy

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Can imagine its a technical nightmare

zealous basalt Jul 31, 2019, 5:14 PM

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The party sync?

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Yeah, I think it's going to come out bugged as hell

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I find it surprising that they added it in a .5 patch and not as an exp feature

upper remnant Jul 31, 2019, 5:17 PM

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It could be the first step for something next expac

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For instance, party sync would allow for a world revamp without the problems of Cataclysm if done well

plain vigil Jul 31, 2019, 5:31 PM

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The tweet could have been talking about the weekly reset/chest day

dense plover Jul 31, 2019, 5:42 PM

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That doesn’t even make sense

indigo laurel Jul 31, 2019, 5:45 PM

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I don't think that syncing would be necessary for a world-revamp (I would even think it would probably be the worse solution). Developing the world through changing the zone at the appropriate level/timing and making the old content available via the already available Bronze_Dragon stuff seems so much better

night swift Jul 31, 2019, 5:46 PM

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I think it would be cool for wow to have a level sync feature and see older dungeons at level rather than just, go in at max and one shot it all

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The one they’re showing off seems to only work if you have a person at that dungeons level

dense plover Jul 31, 2019, 5:58 PM

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I mean we don’t really know

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We haven’t seen it yet

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We got a short text-planation

night swift Jul 31, 2019, 6:02 PM

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True

tropic trail Jul 31, 2019, 6:04 PM

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The low lvl dungeons and Raids should always have an option for max lvl player to oneshot them, I would go nuts if I have to do ICC everytime with a full raid just to get the stupid lich king mount

uncut lintel Jul 31, 2019, 6:04 PM

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Oh my god plz no

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I dont wanna do ICC with a raid, the mount drops, someone else gets it and I rage quit

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Been farming way to long for that >:((

tropic trail Jul 31, 2019, 6:05 PM

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even with personal loot, it would be just such a pain

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it is already a pain, and I have 8 max lvl chars

uncut lintel Jul 31, 2019, 6:05 PM

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o.o Damn

tropic trail Jul 31, 2019, 6:05 PM

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farming that mount for months every week

uncut lintel Jul 31, 2019, 6:05 PM

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Same

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But I only have 3 max toons

dense plover Jul 31, 2019, 6:06 PM

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Trust me they aren’t making this a forced thing

tropic trail Jul 31, 2019, 6:06 PM

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oh Im sure they wont

dense plover Jul 31, 2019, 6:06 PM

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Running old raids for mogs is purposefully a thing

uncut lintel Jul 31, 2019, 6:06 PM

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O dint kno that

dense plover Jul 31, 2019, 6:07 PM

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That’s why they added rules with 8.0 for raids dropping more loot when you are solo if you are 11 levels above them

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It encourages running raids from 2 expacs who

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Ago

plain vigil Jul 31, 2019, 6:25 PM

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PTR'nt

hasty elbow Jul 31, 2019, 6:34 PM

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?

restive pasture Jul 31, 2019, 6:44 PM

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??

plain vigil Jul 31, 2019, 6:46 PM

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https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/yesnt

Know Your Meme

Yesn't

Yesn't is a fake word submitted as a satirical synonym for the word "no," which gained traction online following the circulation of a viral Change.org petition in mid-May 2018.

restive pasture Jul 31, 2019, 6:49 PM

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😐

agile token Jul 31, 2019, 6:51 PM

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This is so awesome'nt

hasty elbow Jul 31, 2019, 6:56 PM

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KhadscuseMeWhat

agile token Jul 31, 2019, 6:58 PM

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Blizzard is intentionally making us sink into madness

languid yoke Jul 31, 2019, 7:01 PM

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they are just making me sink into depression

hasty elbow Jul 31, 2019, 7:03 PM

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^

restive pasture Jul 31, 2019, 7:16 PM

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I wish they would at least release a demo of the new models, maybe a video of them walking around and showcasing the updated animations.

zealous basalt Jul 31, 2019, 7:16 PM

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Inb4 they show up new models doing the default dance

dense plover Jul 31, 2019, 7:16 PM

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Why bother when the community will do that this week

deft carbon Jul 31, 2019, 7:17 PM

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I just wish to see something new about worgen models .-.

languid yoke Jul 31, 2019, 7:17 PM

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because the ptr is taking too loooooooooooooooooooooooooooong to go live

storm marsh Jul 31, 2019, 7:18 PM

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I always wanted them to make the cata alpha hairstyles available, but I'm afraid that won't be the case

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I really hate the long hair on female worgen and lack of options

uncut lintel Jul 31, 2019, 7:19 PM

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same

storm marsh Jul 31, 2019, 7:24 PM

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cries

📎 7vCoQQE.png.jpg

daring dune Jul 31, 2019, 7:25 PM

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I dunno why blizzard can't take 1-2 model designers and say them "You have 1-2 weeks to make more customise choices for players"

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I think ita pretty easy for them

dense plover Jul 31, 2019, 7:26 PM

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Unless you want hair clipping it isn’t

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Model designers make the model then they have to make sure it works then it has to get colored 12 ways to Sunday and add shaders

uncut lintel Jul 31, 2019, 7:27 PM

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i like some of those hair styles

dense plover Jul 31, 2019, 7:27 PM

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We could see new hairstyles tho since the old ones will receive fidelity updates

restive pasture Jul 31, 2019, 7:28 PM

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Scrapping the original female worgen model was an atrocity.

upper remnant Jul 31, 2019, 7:28 PM

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Tbf adding just new hair colors is probably really easy

dense plover Jul 31, 2019, 7:28 PM

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Colors might be

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But I doubt that in regards to new styles

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And again, they weren’t gonna update a model they planned to update with new hairstyles

storm marsh Jul 31, 2019, 7:30 PM

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Those hairstyles I sent were really exciting back in 2010

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And all of the current hairstyles are clipping trough any head item and that wouldnt be the case for the ones above. I wonder what made them change their mind

dense plover Jul 31, 2019, 7:37 PM

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Probably because as they were making the models they were starting to discuss WoD - they think 2 expacs ahead

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And thought they would be able to include these 2 in the model redo

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And they didn’t have time

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I mean the model redo almost certainly is what killed WoD

storm marsh Jul 31, 2019, 7:39 PM

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I agree

dense plover Jul 31, 2019, 7:39 PM

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It’s why it’s taken so long

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They had the newest models next to pandaren

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So they decided to not update them in an attempt to save the expac

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Didn’t really work

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It’s why they are now a patch feature

storm marsh Jul 31, 2019, 7:41 PM

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I still think they will re-do the existing ugly worgen hair and leave us without many options again

dense plover Jul 31, 2019, 7:41 PM

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They might not add more

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They might

storm marsh Jul 31, 2019, 7:41 PM

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#praying

terse patrol Jul 31, 2019, 7:50 PM

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violent screeching

meager zodiac Jul 31, 2019, 7:54 PM

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ten bucks no ptr

ionic terrace Jul 31, 2019, 7:57 PM

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PepeCry

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I’ve been out all day

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I assume the servers are up still?

meager zodiac Jul 31, 2019, 7:58 PM

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as up as your expectations

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im kidding, but yup, no signs

ionic terrace Jul 31, 2019, 7:59 PM

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catscream

dense plover Jul 31, 2019, 7:59 PM

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We are waiting on a new vendor build it we are to assume that it didn’t drop because of a problem

meager zodiac Jul 31, 2019, 8:00 PM

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i do wish they were a bit more comunicative

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like just tweet" hey folks, we are gonna try today!!!" if it doesnt work say so and try again tomorrrow

dense plover Jul 31, 2019, 8:01 PM

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Fyi we just entered peak build time

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Next 2 hours are key

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If we get nothing the chance severely decreases

zealous basalt Jul 31, 2019, 8:02 PM

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y do

dense plover Jul 31, 2019, 8:02 PM

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?

deft carbon Jul 31, 2019, 8:02 PM

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found an interesting fan-made video with old-new Cata worgen models. With the tails. Looks nice... but idk... Worgens are werewolves, not furries

meager zodiac Jul 31, 2019, 8:02 PM

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boi do i have something to tell you about that

dense plover Jul 31, 2019, 8:02 PM

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They don’t have tails

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Canonically

meager zodiac Jul 31, 2019, 8:03 PM

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well christie golden seems to think otherwise

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since she describes said genn tail on before the storm

dense plover Jul 31, 2019, 8:03 PM

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I think she retracted that or said something about creative liberty

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Idk

deft carbon Jul 31, 2019, 8:03 PM

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can i post video here? 🤔

dense plover Jul 31, 2019, 8:03 PM

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No

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Not if it’s yours

meager zodiac Jul 31, 2019, 8:03 PM

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well, good luck for the next 2 hours, lets hope for the best

dense plover Jul 31, 2019, 8:03 PM

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If it’s yours you need permission

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If it isn’t, make sure it’s relevant to the active conversation

deft carbon Jul 31, 2019, 8:05 PM

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it's not mine and its about worgens. remade cata worgens 🤔

languid yoke Jul 31, 2019, 8:08 PM

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Plural is "worgen"

ionic terrace Jul 31, 2019, 8:08 PM

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Worgan

tropic trail Jul 31, 2019, 8:10 PM

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It's totally worglets

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Or worgai

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And a group of them is known as a gaggle

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A gaggle of worglets

uncut lintel Jul 31, 2019, 8:14 PM

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i wanna see child worgens

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babys

deft carbon Jul 31, 2019, 8:14 PM

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😂

tropic trail Jul 31, 2019, 8:14 PM

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Worgies

dense plover Jul 31, 2019, 8:16 PM

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Idk if that constitutes ptr spoilers tbh, but I’m not a mod

plain vigil Jul 31, 2019, 9:03 PM

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Ptrn't 2 electric blizzwhyyouhateusaloo

meager zodiac Jul 31, 2019, 9:09 PM

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well, lets hope for tomorrow then, that's all for today folkz

tropic trail Jul 31, 2019, 9:10 PM

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we have still 2h left, I think?

agile token Jul 31, 2019, 9:10 PM

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We've had 2 hours left for 2 days

tropic trail Jul 31, 2019, 9:10 PM

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yea

plain vigil Jul 31, 2019, 9:40 PM

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Lmao

restive pasture Jul 31, 2019, 9:44 PM

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It's almost 3 PM in blizzard land

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I don't think we are going to see anything today.

uncut lintel Jul 31, 2019, 9:45 PM

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Sad

meager zodiac Jul 31, 2019, 9:46 PM

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as usual they disapoint

plain vigil Jul 31, 2019, 9:48 PM

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I mean... It's our fault we're disappointed

dense plover Jul 31, 2019, 9:49 PM

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For once, Gandem is correct

plain vigil Jul 31, 2019, 9:52 PM

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This is actually twice now peach

dense plover Jul 31, 2019, 9:54 PM

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No

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Just this time

agile token Jul 31, 2019, 9:59 PM

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I suggest making it the best we can

zealous basalt Jul 31, 2019, 10:00 PM

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Yeah

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Let's not kill eachother yet

agile token Jul 31, 2019, 10:00 PM

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It's me, peach, gandem, lightfury, tiltedelf and makore

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Let's party

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blepdance

zealous basalt Jul 31, 2019, 10:01 PM

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I...don't have nitro

uncut vault Jul 31, 2019, 10:05 PM

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boomdance

meager zodiac Jul 31, 2019, 10:20 PM

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💃

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👯

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🕺

limber mural Jul 31, 2019, 10:28 PM

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@zealous basalt take this emuthonk to temporarily increase your clout enough to blend in

tropic trail Jul 31, 2019, 10:29 PM

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rip for today I guess

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I fear its gonna be a friday thing.

dense plover Jul 31, 2019, 10:33 PM

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We aren’t out of the woods yet

meager zodiac Jul 31, 2019, 10:40 PM

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But it’s pretty much unlikely now , no ?

dense plover Jul 31, 2019, 10:45 PM

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It went from like 50% to like 10%

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Not quite 0, but treat it like such

upper remnant Jul 31, 2019, 10:54 PM

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It seems they often go with late of the week first build in BFA

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It could just be me though

zealous basalt Jul 31, 2019, 10:55 PM

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come on people, kirby won against an oponent that had 99.9% chance of winning, so we can hold hop

obtuse vine Jul 31, 2019, 10:55 PM

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What do you people think

📎 image0.png

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Apparently it’s from the next expansion called awakenings

tropic trail Jul 31, 2019, 10:55 PM

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I think its fake

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you can make something like this really easy with a private server, or even with retail and photoshop

obtuse vine Jul 31, 2019, 10:56 PM

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Yeah true

upper remnant Jul 31, 2019, 10:58 PM

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this guy mentionned a new class being tinkers and the healing spec revolving around Azerite

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which shows it's fake

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because Azerite is a temporary thing

flint meteor Jul 31, 2019, 11:02 PM

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i also think its friday

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looking at his tweet could be interpreted like that

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📎 unknown.png

dense plover Jul 31, 2019, 11:07 PM

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That also wouldn’t make sense

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They dropped a vendor build Friday

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They probably were going to drop the build Tuesday but it broke

unborn glacier Jul 31, 2019, 11:26 PM

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Or

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Feasel is literally trolling

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As always

tropic trail Jul 31, 2019, 11:27 PM

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^

dense plover Jul 31, 2019, 11:35 PM

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Doubtful

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Because a vendor build did go live on Friday

ionic terrace Jul 31, 2019, 11:39 PM

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PepeHands

uncut vault Jul 31, 2019, 11:44 PM

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always funny seeing screenshots like that

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because phones dont do that kind of low quality

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its so clearly made into a low quality screenshot

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just conveniently low quality enough that the ability can be read, but not the larger text dungeons

dense plover Jul 31, 2019, 11:45 PM

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^

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A real leak would be able to have legit straight images, not phone pics

uncut vault Jul 31, 2019, 11:48 PM

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was awakenings the world revamp one?

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Cause those arent elwynn inn assets in that screenshot

zealous basalt Jul 31, 2019, 11:58 PM

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I know how is it a fake

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chat box has a black background

uncut vault Aug 1, 2019, 12:01 AM

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nah thats a setting in game

zealous basalt Aug 1, 2019, 12:01 AM

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Yea but which dev is going to have it?

uncut vault Aug 1, 2019, 12:01 AM

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apparently this one 😛

limber mural Aug 1, 2019, 12:02 AM

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But yeah it is unconfirmable cause ez to do with mods and/or priv servers

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about as confirmable as inspect element

terse patrol Aug 1, 2019, 12:26 AM

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My friends faked a thing during the BFA alpha convincing a fair few people that Turalyon was going to execute Liadrin in Arathi.

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so

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lol

limber mural Aug 1, 2019, 12:31 AM

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Oh that was you? Lol. Wondered what that even was at the time.

zealous basalt Aug 1, 2019, 12:32 AM

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I wanted that to happen

terse patrol Aug 1, 2019, 12:33 AM

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I still think Arathi needed a setup cinematic or questline. Or both.

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Darkshore got one.

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We know Stromgarde was Horde aggression. It was controlled by the Alliance in Before the Storm.

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So a cinematic with Turalyon and Danath meeting again in Stromgarde Keep would have been cool, and ending with a Horde war horn being blown as they arrive to build their fortress.

uncut vault Aug 1, 2019, 12:42 AM

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I mean, taking back arathi to assault lordaeron and quelthalas would be considered alliance aggression, which would be a good change of pace this xpac

terse patrol Aug 1, 2019, 12:44 AM

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I still want the Silvermoon warfront.

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But I doubt it'll happen.

plain vigil Aug 1, 2019, 12:45 AM

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@obtuse vine needs more JPEG

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Or @dense plover Feasil was excited about opening his weekly m+ chest

tropic trail Aug 1, 2019, 1:03 AM

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im sure Silvermoon warfront will not happen

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and im sure no more warfronts will be added

uncut vault Aug 1, 2019, 1:10 AM

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we know there will be at least one more warfront

zealous basalt Aug 1, 2019, 1:19 AM

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I think it depends

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on whenever heroic wf is sucess or not

plain vigil Aug 1, 2019, 1:28 AM

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Only wardront that makes sense atm is defense of Mulgor

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However I'm realizing that Silvermoon warfront makes a lot of sense... Remember Lorthemar is going back to try and convince his people... We're assuming they're going to say yes... But if they don't, a joint horde and alliance Warfront against Sylvanas supporters would make sense while we handle Mulgor...

terse patrol Aug 1, 2019, 1:43 AM

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Well, we know Alleria wants to bring Silvermoon back under the Alliance.

plain vigil Aug 1, 2019, 1:45 AM

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No she basically disowned them in the recruitment scenario

uncut vault Aug 1, 2019, 1:46 AM

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No, she didnt

plain vigil Aug 1, 2019, 1:46 AM

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To be clear the Nightborn recruitment

uncut vault Aug 1, 2019, 1:46 AM

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The nightborne recruitment is her trying to get them into the alliance lol

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and in Boralus, she says to both velf and non velf players that she wants silvermoon in the alliance again

plain vigil Aug 1, 2019, 1:47 AM

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🧐

zealous basalt Aug 1, 2019, 1:48 AM

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As usual

uncut vault Aug 1, 2019, 1:50 AM

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https://i.gyazo.com/91c8fd0c257fefb41dfafea3ea1b4604.png

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its not hard to just look in game

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https://i.gyazo.com/3ef99aa18294ba4417fa43e9291982d0.png

plain vigil Aug 1, 2019, 1:51 AM

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Maybe I misunderstood a line then?

zealous basalt Aug 1, 2019, 1:52 AM

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What did I say now?

uncut vault Aug 1, 2019, 1:52 AM

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Her end line i nthe nightborne stuff is "I will not be made prisoner in my own homeland", which might have been what you misconstrued

plain vigil Aug 1, 2019, 1:53 AM

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Yeah that's the line Porter

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My b

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But still. I think it's crazy that noone's questioning the outcome of lorthemar's proposition, and the influence on game content

zealous basalt Aug 1, 2019, 1:55 AM

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As usual an elf wants their city to be blue as it should be

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It's what i meant

plain vigil Aug 1, 2019, 1:56 AM

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Ah my bad

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Sorry man

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Just imagine... Silvermoon Civil war

uncut vault Aug 1, 2019, 2:06 AM

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if we get one, I certainly hope it isnt the boring "horde and alliance together" forces

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it should be Horde vs Alliance, Lorthemar definitely wouldnt be helping the Alliance claim quelthalas even if hes allying with thrall

zealous basalt Aug 1, 2019, 2:08 AM

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"Elves, we brought freedom"

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gets in with steam tanks

plain vigil Aug 1, 2019, 2:58 AM

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Nonono porter. The alliance isn't invading, it would be a civil war based on the current story. Horde and alliance helping Lorthemar against a rise up. Other option, alliance and horde swap off helping Lorthemar, with NPC opposing faction help, Maybe even an additional Warfront to swap off between

unborn glacier Aug 1, 2019, 3:09 AM

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Silvermoon will never be alliance again uwu

plain vigil Aug 1, 2019, 3:41 AM

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Not saying it will :3 just that Lorthemar's People are very split on who they support. It's not translated well in game, but most horde citizens support Sylvanas. Especially the belfs

tropic trail Aug 1, 2019, 3:48 AM

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World of Warcraft: Civil War

plain vigil Aug 1, 2019, 3:49 AM

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Honestly though. I could see 8.3 being civil war themed

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Genn and Tyrande vs Anduin and Jaina, Belfs and Sylvanas vs Saurfang and Lorthemar

uncut vault Aug 1, 2019, 4:00 AM

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Im fine with civil war stuff so long as it isnt

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"lorthemar supports the alliance in the rebellion in claiming quelthalas against his own people"

zealous basalt Aug 1, 2019, 4:11 AM

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I think

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it would be more of

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Tyrande vs Anduin and Genn

terse patrol Aug 1, 2019, 4:36 AM

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What if Mulgore was Sylvanas’ Horde vs Thralls Horde/Anduin’s Alliance, and Quel’Thalas was Tyrande’s Alliance vs Thrall’s Horde/Anduin’s Alliance? 🤔

tropic trail Aug 1, 2019, 4:49 AM

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why would Genn fight Anduin lol

uncut vault Aug 1, 2019, 9:24 AM

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pre-BtS, plenty of reasons

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but he was pretty neutered in that novel, so theres no real reason now

obtuse vine Aug 1, 2019, 9:34 AM

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I just realised that in the past all of the expansions we got a new class in were decent expansion, wrath, mop and legion, and we will most likely get one next expansion so 10.0 could be a fairly decent imo

indigo laurel Aug 1, 2019, 9:34 AM

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I mean, if you can mellow out, you can radicalize yourself again. Flip-flopping on characterization is not a new thing for blizz coughgarroshcough