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plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 5:39 PM

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8.3 dragon isles. If not Mulgor.

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Introduce more tinker stuff, recruitment of Junkers and vulpera

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 5:40 PM

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Mulgor?

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 5:40 PM

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I could see us getting a Mulgor warfront, but it's horde and alliance vs sylvanas

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 5:40 PM

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Oh I mean

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I think a barrens warfront is still likely

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That zone needs to be redone so bad

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 5:41 PM

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Not so sure about barrens concidering the dwarf vs Tauren died won't continue in 8.3

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 5:42 PM

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Could always rebuild theramore and make it huge

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Probably not though

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 5:42 PM

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However, a warfront where we defend mulgor is highly plausible. Especially since 1 Mulgor is so open it would take no time to revamp, and 2 the arathi assets can be reused for Mulgor.

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 5:42 PM

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Or could make it about defending the gates to Mulgore in the barrens

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 5:42 PM

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Yes that's true I guess

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 5:43 PM

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Mulgore revamp is dangerous

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People love that zone

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 5:43 PM

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It's literally just updating building and tree models

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And the skybox and the grass texture

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Like Mulgor is textbook reskin easy update

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It also would explain the weird boar content in Kul'tiras. It was an excuse to update their models for Mulgor as a way to reduce waste/increase efficiency

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 5:46 PM

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Uh

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 5:46 PM

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It'd be so easy to update this

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dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 5:46 PM

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Quilboar are mainly the barrens my dude

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They’re barely in Mulgore

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That’s such a tiny part of the zone

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Barrens near camp taurajo makes more sense

tropic trail Jul 27, 2019, 5:46 PM

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Better lightbound Undeads for Alliance with Calia as leader then having the chance that this Alliance bitch is becoming the leader of the Forsaken

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 5:46 PM

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And needs way more work

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 5:46 PM

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Quilboar have been a major part of Tauren starting zones since vanilla. Yeah it's a tiny part, but it's part of the Tauren upbringing

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 5:47 PM

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I don’t think that’s gonna happen either tilted

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 5:47 PM

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Tauren is to Quilboar as Human is to Gnoll

tropic trail Jul 27, 2019, 5:47 PM

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Well something will happen with Calia anyway, since she is going to be in the next xpac 100%

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 5:48 PM

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I think it's going to be war campaign related @dense plover

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 5:48 PM

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Shadowlands leak plz be true so my predictions early X-Pac are right

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 5:48 PM

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/sylvanas focused

tropic trail Jul 27, 2019, 5:50 PM

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8.3 can be bouth, dragon/Nzoth and Sylvanas focused

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 5:50 PM

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true

tropic trail Jul 27, 2019, 5:50 PM

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since Sylvanas has anyway somehow a connection to Nzoth because of the dagger

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 5:52 PM

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Idk I don't think dragon isles is coming just yet

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 5:54 PM

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same

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but i cant say that with certainty

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im also thinkinglesss and less 9.0 is old world revamp

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it just feels like a 10.0 thing

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hope im wrong

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but one more high concept (probably void/death split theme) before a revamp is likely

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have 10.0 act like a power level reset/reorigination

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 5:56 PM

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Well the most "accurate" leak so far has 9.0 slated as Shadowlands. When we return the world is revamped in 10.0 sooo

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 5:56 PM

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yes thats how i feel too

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even if the leaks not real, that kind of thing feels right

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 5:56 PM

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Which is what I said over a year and a half ago

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which noone believed me

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 5:56 PM

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😉

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azeroth is born end of 9.0

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planet goes bye bye

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titans reoriginate it

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everythings different

tropic trail Jul 27, 2019, 5:57 PM

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Dragon Isles will come. 8.3 or more likely next xpac

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there is no way its gonna be a 10.0 thing

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 5:57 PM

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sure, i just think its a 9.x zone

tropic trail Jul 27, 2019, 5:57 PM

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it was already hinted with wrathion

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 5:58 PM

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"You're crazy Gandem" "You have no proof Gandem" "N'zoth won't bring back the old gods in BFA Gandem" "this expansion is Faction themed Gandem" "we won't get any more animal updates after hyenas Gandem" "warfront armor isn't racially themed Gandem" ... See where I'm going here?

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 5:59 PM

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Also if Shadowlands is real

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ARTHAS baby

tropic trail Jul 27, 2019, 5:59 PM

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oh no, Arthas should stay dead

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 5:59 PM

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he can

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 5:59 PM

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Arthas ceased to exist

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 5:59 PM

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hes undead/ghost in shadowlands in my speculation

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 5:59 PM

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Why dont you understand that?

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:00 PM

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retcon baby

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:00 PM

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Arthas is in the sword and helm. He ain't coming back. But Don't be surprised if we revisit all of our old foes from the past 15 years

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:00 PM

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Thata how you get rid of Wotlk

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:00 PM

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Arthas returning hype = most important than a perceived/not fully explained lore point from 10 years ago

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at least from blizz's perspective

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:00 PM

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It was explained

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If you didnt put attention that was your issue

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:01 PM

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I did/do

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:01 PM

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If we do get another warfront btw the theme would be Darkspear Vs Dreanai. As they're the only race left without any BFA racial armor. Else we'll be getting Heratage sets for them.

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:01 PM

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But if you did the entirely of Icecrown you shall realize by now that Arthas and Ner'zhul merged to create the LK entity

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:01 PM

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Not true

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:01 PM

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They both still existed

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Makore you've got that wrong

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 6:02 PM

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No they don’t

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You literally don’t understand what you did

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:02 PM

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Which now resides/struggles to be controlled by Bolvar

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:02 PM

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Arthas's soups is constantly being tortured in the blade

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 6:02 PM

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You fought a vision in the swords

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:02 PM

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In fact, I believe Arthas 'won'/ate Ner'zhul

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 6:02 PM

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He didn’t

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:02 PM

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Neither won

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:02 PM

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Mr Peach.... PREACH

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 6:02 PM

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What you believe isn’t what the lore says

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So it doesn’t matter

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They don’t retcon stuff because you believe it

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:03 PM

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As i said

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If they retconned that it was as if Icecrown quests/ICC never existed

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And makes the lore messy again

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:04 PM

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You'll have to prove that to me. My memory is a bit foggy but I remember hearing strong arguments that Arthas was the domiment force in the end

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even as 'the lich king'

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Plus it's not that important. From a lore point yes, but if Blizz want Arthas on marketing materials that matters more

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:05 PM

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Then he died Toby

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:05 PM

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Yes

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As did varian who shadowlands leak said we meet

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:05 PM

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And in legion you find Arthas's soul trapped in the sword being tortured by Ner'Zul for eternity

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:05 PM

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...we are speculated thanks to...a leak?

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:05 PM

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Yes!

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:05 PM

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When have leaks become true....

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:05 PM

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No

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:05 PM

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The entire point of this conversation started with 'IF shadowlands leak is real...'

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the entire conversation exists within that context

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:06 PM

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...who started this leak?

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:06 PM

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We're discussing if the leak is realistic or not based on what we see in game

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:06 PM

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I said...

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:06 PM

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Please dont say bellular

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:06 PM

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Pyromancer did a vidya

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:06 PM

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''Also if Shadowlands is real
ARTHAS baby''

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:06 PM

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facepalms

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:06 PM

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Lmao

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:07 PM

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IFFFFF

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i dont actually believe the leak

tropic trail Jul 27, 2019, 6:08 PM

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Arthas is right now in the same place where Sylvanas where when she died from suicide

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suffering, his soul getting tortured

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:08 PM

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https://youtu.be/If_uAjPOl-I

YouTube

Pyromancer

World of Warcraft: Shadowlands... Is This Legit? Let's Take A Look!

The Old Ways of the Zandalari Trolls: https://youtu.be/DS0db2xFcyI Thank you so much for watching! Check out my links below! Patreon: https://www.patreon.com...

▶ Play video

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No

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Tilted

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No

tropic trail Jul 27, 2019, 6:08 PM

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Yes

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100%

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yes

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:08 PM

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Arthas is in the sword

tropic trail Jul 27, 2019, 6:08 PM

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there is no doubts

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:08 PM

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Not counting that if we consider that his soul was in the sword

tropic trail Jul 27, 2019, 6:08 PM

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it is stated in the short story of Sylvanas

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:08 PM

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Sylvanas was not bound to the sword

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:08 PM

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Then it is destroyed

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Honda

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If Arthas resided in the soul is far gone now

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:09 PM

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Either way, he exists in some way. Or at the least there's no confirmation his soul is gone

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:09 PM

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As if we all remember

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:09 PM

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At that level, putting his face on a box is a bigger factor

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:09 PM

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All artefacts became useless minus Xal that even so got dormant

tropic trail Jul 27, 2019, 6:09 PM

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Sylvanas met Arthas himself in the place she were after she died

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:09 PM

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Ummm which death?

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:09 PM

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Gods i would wish Des was here

tropic trail Jul 27, 2019, 6:09 PM

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I can even quote that if you want

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the suicide death

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:10 PM

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When she killed herself in ICC

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:10 PM

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Cause Arthas was alive when she committed self die

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:10 PM

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After the raid

tropic trail Jul 27, 2019, 6:10 PM

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^

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what???

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:10 PM

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Oh that was after the raid?!?

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:10 PM

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Literally she looked at him

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Was like "now what i do"

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:10 PM

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That all makes a lot more sense now

tropic trail Jul 27, 2019, 6:10 PM

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Arthas died, he got killed off

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Bolvar took his place

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:10 PM

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"Time to commit sodoku"

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She threw herself from the spire

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:10 PM

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Either way Makore just watch a bit of that video

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:11 PM

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Into the blades

tropic trail Jul 27, 2019, 6:11 PM

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Sylvanas called him a son of a bitch, then some minutes later she did suicide

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 6:11 PM

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Let’s end this convo - shadowlands peak sounds like bullshit

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Probably derived from Jainas vision in Throa

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Thros

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Since those two NPCs are in that cutscene

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:11 PM

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I am not going to kill my brain cells more watching "leaks"

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 6:11 PM

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^^^

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Leaks are worthless especially when they sound like they’re written by someone who doesn’t know lore

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:12 PM

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well they're fun

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:12 PM

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I have better things to do like waiting for the 8.2.5 ptr so we can actually speculate on things that WILL Happen

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:12 PM

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not much more

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 6:12 PM

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Variant isn’t in the shadowlands

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:12 PM

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They arent fun and simply confuse the population more

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:12 PM

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they are to me

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if you can talk about them without treating them seriously

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 6:12 PM

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And again, 8.3 is probably dragon isles. They’ve been heavily diving in to dragon lore

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:13 PM

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and realising they prolly wont happen

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 6:13 PM

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This is a place where we treat lore seriously my dude

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:13 PM

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they give insight into possible game directions

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 6:13 PM

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No they don’t

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They give insight into fan concepts

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:13 PM

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it's a place where YOU treat the lore seriously

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:13 PM

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Leaks doesnt...make sense at all

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Its a place where we all treat this seriously

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:13 PM

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i like the lore don't get me wrong, but i also enjoy leak speculation

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 6:13 PM

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Everyone here except you treats the lore seriously

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:13 PM

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i do...

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:13 PM

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There is a place for leak speculation

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:14 PM

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just not in the context of leaks

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:14 PM

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Its called #no-wow-discussion

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 6:14 PM

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^^^

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:14 PM

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then why were people chatting about future expansions and allied races?

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and world revamps?

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 6:14 PM

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Especially since the leaks have no credence and feel unrealizable

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It’s based on current game data

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:14 PM

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world revamp is based on current game data?

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:14 PM

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Because uh thats based on what we find in the datamining?

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 6:14 PM

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IE barrens warfront was planned and in the first patch data wise

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But wasn’t finished

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It never was

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:14 PM

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And probably it got scrapped

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 6:15 PM

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So it’s still speculated as a future possibility

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:15 PM

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i know all that, but you're creating imaginary lines

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 6:15 PM

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No, warfront zones get revamped

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:15 PM

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I see rampont speculation not related to game data all the time in ehre

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 6:15 PM

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That’s what we were talking about

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Not entire world revamp

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:15 PM

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no ive seen other stuff

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 6:15 PM

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Individual zones

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Yes some people talk about it

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:15 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/chgpyh/blizz_employ_leaking_next_expansion_stuff_on_4chan/eusyb8i/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app

None of this mentions Arthas btw Toby.

I would love to see this happen. Not saying it will, but let's look at what's in game at the moment and less on fantasizing about the l"eak"

r/wow - Blizz employ leaking next expansion stuff on 4chan

252 votes and 411 comments so far on Reddit

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:15 PM

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Also the zone revamp can lead to a future total revamp if they make them relevant

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 6:15 PM

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And it’s easily dismissed because there is no evidence

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And then the convo moves on

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When there is no evidence, some opinions are given and then the convo moves on

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:16 PM

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the convo moves on every 20 messages tbh

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:16 PM

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Moving on from this... Darkspear Heratage quest.... Thoughts?

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 6:16 PM

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It doesn’t return to the “what if”

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Which you keep trying to go back to

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:16 PM

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i haven't seen that as a hard as fast rule peach

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*and

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:16 PM

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Welcome to Ptr spoilers channel

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 6:16 PM

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I don’t know which heritage is next

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:16 PM

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And honestly

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 6:16 PM

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Goblin and worsen are first

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Worgen

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:16 PM

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Be glad that a member called des left

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 6:16 PM

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After that?

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:17 PM

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i have been here for 18 months 😛

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but sure

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:17 PM

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I think human and orc will be the last

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:17 PM

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well ye

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 6:17 PM

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I don’t expect them this expac even

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:17 PM

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Peach darkspear and Dreanai are the only ones left

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:17 PM

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seems like warfront sets cover the races who havent got heritage yet

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 6:17 PM

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^

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Which means nelf human, forsaken, and orc are least likely

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:18 PM

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Nelf Undead Orc and Human already got racial sets #peachdidntbelivemewhenIcalledthatone

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:18 PM

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ye, i do think theyll get them eventually

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just not as a priority/not in this expansion maybe even

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:18 PM

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Again the only races left are Darkspear, Pandaren, and Dreanai

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:18 PM

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for racial sets yeh

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not for heritage

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 6:19 PM

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Maybe Draenei and uh

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:19 PM

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For Heratage you dingus

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:19 PM

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cos bare in mind heritage gives questlines too

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no need to be rude you spa

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 6:19 PM

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I guess darkspear would be next

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:19 PM

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Dingus is playful rude

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 6:19 PM

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Draenei and Darkspear

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:19 PM

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darkspear/draenei ye

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:19 PM

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Darkspear, Bwomsamdi questline

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 6:19 PM

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Probably not imo

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:19 PM

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Ummm

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:19 PM

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Why bwon if you have voljin

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:20 PM

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Bwomsamdi is literally the darkspear's god

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 6:20 PM

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I think it would finish out the Voljin stuff

night swift Jul 27, 2019, 6:20 PM

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^^

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:20 PM

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pllzzzz bwomsamdi 😄

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:20 PM

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Nein

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 6:20 PM

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Maybe officially anoint him as a low

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Loa

dull flame Jul 27, 2019, 6:20 PM

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😄 oh another fake reddit post

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:20 PM

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Vol jin could become a new loa tbh

dull flame Jul 27, 2019, 6:20 PM

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it does look great on paper tho

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nice pic too

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:20 PM

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link?

night swift Jul 27, 2019, 6:20 PM

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I thought he was from the questline

dull flame Jul 27, 2019, 6:20 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/chgpyh/blizz_employ_leaking_next_expansion_stuff_on_4chan/eusyb8i/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app

r/wow - Blizz employ leaking next expansion stuff on 4chan

252 votes and 411 comments so far on Reddit

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:20 PM

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All Darkspear are bound to Bwomsamdi on death.... Yes Vol'jin is probably going to be part of the quest but Bwomsamdi will definitely be a big part of their Heratage

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:20 PM

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oh that one..

dull flame Jul 27, 2019, 6:21 PM

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new class had me totaly

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:21 PM

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yeh weve seen that

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:21 PM

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@dull flame scroll up you muppet

dull flame Jul 27, 2019, 6:21 PM

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😄

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i saw it

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but toby asked for link

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:21 PM

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i got assaulted cos of it 😛

dull flame Jul 27, 2019, 6:21 PM

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xD

night swift Jul 27, 2019, 6:21 PM

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Alright now we insulting

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:21 PM

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cos you said 'new'

dull flame Jul 27, 2019, 6:21 PM

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it is new for me

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i mean its only 11 days old

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not even 2 weeks

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😛

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:21 PM

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Can we get back on topic plx

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:21 PM

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No

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:21 PM

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that's like 50 years in internet time

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 6:21 PM

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It’s BS

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:21 PM

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Apologize to him

dull flame Jul 27, 2019, 6:21 PM

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reddit post is 2 days old

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reddit dosnt read 4chan

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PrincePepe

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:22 PM

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cos 4chan is disgusting

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:22 PM

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What

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Are you on

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:22 PM

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#no-wow-discussion

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:22 PM

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full of racist weeps

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:22 PM

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And ye

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...boi

dull flame Jul 27, 2019, 6:22 PM

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still no PTR 8.2.5 ?

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:22 PM

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Never mind

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Thats offtopix

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And no

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:22 PM

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REEEEEEEE take this shit to #no-wow-discussion

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:22 PM

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Probably tuesday

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 6:22 PM

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Here let me explain why the leak is trash

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The shadowlands and the old gods are unrelated

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:22 PM

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I have one thing that fucks that up

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 6:23 PM

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Nyalotha has nothing to do with the shadowlands

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:23 PM

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Pfffft omkay there peacg

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Let's not get into this again...

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:23 PM

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well tbh we know almost nothing about ny'alotha or the shadowlands

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:23 PM

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Back to shit we can actually talk about based on in game content....

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:23 PM

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Let him debunker this to put a period to this leak trash

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:23 PM

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Darkspear and Dreanai Heratage quests

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:24 PM

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'discussions from in game data' rofl

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 6:24 PM

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We know enough about the shadowlands

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:24 PM

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yes honda!

uncut lintel Jul 27, 2019, 6:24 PM

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i like worgens

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:24 PM

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We don't peach

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 6:24 PM

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They were around before the old gods or titans arrived on azeroth

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:24 PM

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Drop it Mr mc craft

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 6:24 PM

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And are not accessible to the old gods from what we know

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:24 PM

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I' wonder what draenei would do quest wise? Maybe some iteractions/seperation between them and lightforged

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:24 PM

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Ummm

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Easy

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Light forged undead /s

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:25 PM

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Wouldnt that make both planes kinda countering?

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:25 PM

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Maybe the moving of the Exodar?

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:25 PM

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You know

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Normal now void/Shadowlands

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:25 PM

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@plain vigil can't wait till we get 'redeemed' undead

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and you eat crow 😉

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:26 PM

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Fuck that I want wildhammers

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:26 PM

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also yeh i imagine they prolly wanna get hell outa kalimdor

uncut lintel Jul 27, 2019, 6:26 PM

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i want to BE a crow

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:26 PM

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#lightforgedwildhammers

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:26 PM

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given theyre stuck a million miles from their allies

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:26 PM

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Can we talk about how the LFD totally stole the Drenai's ship?

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:26 PM

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You all know its almost impossible to rewrite the Exodar area without fucking everything up, right?

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:27 PM

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technically?

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:27 PM

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Pardon?

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:27 PM

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Like, the reason the exodar cant fly its because it is in another expansion pack

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 6:27 PM

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Exodar is nearly impossibly to redo

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:27 PM

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im not sure that matters, they need to update its graphics anyway, orit could get nuked out of the sky by the goblin gun

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 6:27 PM

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It’s technically in Outland

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:27 PM

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Yeah

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:27 PM

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in a cinematic

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 6:27 PM

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It’s the same reason silvermoon isn’t updated

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:27 PM

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either rebuild the thing or destroy it

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:27 PM

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To try and redo it means that you have to mess with the code

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 6:28 PM

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No it’s like in Outland as in that’s the map it’s on

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:28 PM

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they could just redo it from scratch

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 6:28 PM

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It’s why you can’t fly to it

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:28 PM

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And considering how structured the code is

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 6:28 PM

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That’s a fuck ton of work

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With almost no payout

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:28 PM

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And it would be for current content levels

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So if you were to do a new draenei

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:28 PM

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Again... They move the exodar

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:28 PM

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You are stuck in the first iteration

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 6:28 PM

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That’s still a ton of work

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The zone isn’t built for flying

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:28 PM

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the zone is dead anyway

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:29 PM

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There's already a big hole in Eastern kingdoms where Dalaran used to be!

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 6:29 PM

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The exodar suffers from the same paper mache problem

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:29 PM

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so either get rid of it, or make a new exodar somewhere else

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 6:29 PM

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Exactly - it’s dead why redo it)

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:29 PM

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it's dead cos there's no insentive to go there

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:29 PM

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You cant get rid of it

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Like

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:29 PM

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no because people hate the exodar

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*not

terse patrol Jul 27, 2019, 6:29 PM

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Tbh

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:29 PM

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How do i explain

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 6:29 PM

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No it’s dead because there is no reason to go there

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:29 PM

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thats what i just said

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 6:29 PM

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It’s disconnected from everything that

terse patrol Jul 27, 2019, 6:29 PM

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They should just say they dismantled the Exodar to build the Vindicarr.

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:29 PM

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It was a miracle that they made a new ship in there

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 6:29 PM

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^^^

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Would’ve been smarter

terse patrol Jul 27, 2019, 6:30 PM

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And replace the Exodar with Draenor draenei assets.

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I’d love an actual Draenei city.

uncut lintel Jul 27, 2019, 6:30 PM

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yessss

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:30 PM

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Wasmt the vindicar built off the good parts of the exodar?

uncut lintel Jul 27, 2019, 6:30 PM

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draenei cityyy

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:30 PM

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Yeah, but comes again the code structure program

terse patrol Jul 27, 2019, 6:31 PM

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I really don’t think it’d be that hard to add Azuremyst to the main world.

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:31 PM

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rebuilding silvermoon would be frigging amazing tbh, but i theres a bigger problem

terse patrol Jul 27, 2019, 6:31 PM

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It has the benefit of being an island.

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:31 PM

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there needs to be reason to go to multiple cities

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:31 PM

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Ehh you would have to rebuild everything again

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Or at least kalimdor

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:31 PM

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instead of the latest city/silvermoon/org

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:32 PM

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And do something with that exodar from bc

terse patrol Jul 27, 2019, 6:32 PM

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Delete it

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:32 PM

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Issue is that it belongs to BC

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If they would have just add it to the main map back in BC

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 6:32 PM

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maybe put exclusive stuff in each city, or add city specific player housing, or dailies inside each city

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:32 PM

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I think it would have got a revamp like the rest of the world

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They arent going to try player housing again

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:34 PM

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EZ solution.... Scrap the Exodar and the Vindicar and build a city in the Dalaran Crater

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:34 PM

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Not that easu

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:34 PM

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Easu

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:35 PM

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Its not like its separated thing

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Its a*

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You would have to revamp the Draenei questing experience and give quests to Alterac valley

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And we all know that area is technically Horde

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:36 PM

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Mak....

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:36 PM

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Which might mean that tou would need to revamp Everything

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:36 PM

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Silithis wants to know your location

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:36 PM

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So, not really easy

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WoW is known for not adding stuff it is not relevant

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:36 PM

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You wouldn't have to change any start zones

terse patrol Jul 27, 2019, 6:37 PM

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They could make Silvermoon and Azuremyst faction hubs for next expac.

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idk

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:37 PM

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Then why would you want a draenei area in the middle of nowhere

terse patrol Jul 27, 2019, 6:37 PM

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then again I think some are bored of Draenei.

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:37 PM

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Draenai need a home, the Crater is already pruple and glowing. Small dab in alliance controlled territory

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:37 PM

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Legion was sure of giving the normal draenei a good "no more content for you"

uncut vault Jul 27, 2019, 6:38 PM

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Keep in mind: there is a difference between making a new version of the zone, and porting over the actual original zone

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:38 PM

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^^^^^

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:38 PM

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I dont think you understood what port mean

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Also port i saw tou a few days ago

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:38 PM

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No I do

uncut vault Jul 27, 2019, 6:38 PM

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The reason they couldn’t connect QT and azuremyst in Cata is because they wanted to connect the actual zones, with the actual quests

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:38 PM

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I don't think you understand what I mean makore

uncut vault Jul 27, 2019, 6:39 PM

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If they make a brand new version of, say, Quel’thalas, just for a warfront or for new content, they can put that in the open world

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and leave the original untouched

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:39 PM

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One version for low levels or is the new versions for both?

uncut vault Jul 27, 2019, 6:39 PM

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Have the original still operate as the starting zone, and all the old xpac quests will still go there

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And then the new one is made for new content

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Basically two entirely separate zones, but of the same place

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:40 PM

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Story wise Dreanai have no ties to Kalimdore. Their home was invaded in legion. Scrapped for parts. And then they left to a different planet to fight. Teldrassil burned so there's no reason for them to settle in Kalimdore again.

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:40 PM

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But again you would.need something relevant happening there

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:40 PM

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Yeah like silithis Porter... Exactly

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:40 PM

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QT has the Warfront

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But what about Azuremyst?

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:40 PM

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I'm saying they leave Azuremyst

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Azutemyst doesn't get redone. They just resettle in eastern kingdoms

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Rebuild the exodar or a Drenai city in the Crater of Dalaran

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Then later on if we ever get playable Furbolg, we could always revisit Azutemyst

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:42 PM

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The question is still there for you to answer Port, you solved the "how can you do to get QT into the main map with a revamp" but what about the draenei? What could they to do make them relevant enough to get a new area?

terse patrol Jul 27, 2019, 6:42 PM

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Tbh

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:43 PM

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Again. Heratage questline

terse patrol Jul 27, 2019, 6:43 PM

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I’d like a reworked Azuremyst focused on the Draenei working into their post-Legion lives, and finding their place in Azeroth for once.

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:43 PM

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Honda

terse patrol Jul 27, 2019, 6:43 PM

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With maybe hints towards Void stuff.

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:43 PM

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Blood elves would have then

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A heritage questline and a warfront

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While draenei will just have...a heritage questline?

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Dont you think that would cause an uproar on that small community of draenei players and feed the "horde bias" thing all Alliance players have?

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:45 PM

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Damn it stop calling me Honda 😂 it's Gandem

uncut vault Jul 27, 2019, 6:46 PM

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You can change your nickname

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:46 PM

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It won't let me

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:46 PM

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Call an admin den

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:46 PM

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Oh sheet

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Brb

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:46 PM

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But yeah

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Its all about relevancy and try to not being biased on one side

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Now changing of topic

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Think we are going to have a wrathion remodel?

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:48 PM

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When we see him in game next

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:48 PM

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Probs 8.3

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If its dragon isles

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:48 PM

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Technically we haven't seen him in game since MoP

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:48 PM

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Well

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His human form

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We saw him in WoD

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:49 PM

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No

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:49 PM

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And he was still a whelp

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Ye

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Legendary ring questline

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In the end he is flying around khadgar spire in whelp form

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...although he might be older than that

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:49 PM

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We didn't actually see him in human form, we were told about him. What we saw was the hero using their memory to picture his human form

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:49 PM

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Nonono, really

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Ye, i said that we didnt see his human form

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But technically we saw him

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:51 PM

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Right but only a generic model

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:51 PM

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Yeah

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Wtb new dragon models tbh

uncut vault Jul 27, 2019, 6:53 PM

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I’m betting he’ll get a unique drake form

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And whenever we get dragon isles, I’m also betting that we get dragon model updates for the whole game

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:54 PM

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He'll probs get a unique drake and humanoid form

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Well

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We did already see the dragon mount got an update

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Via icons

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Drake mount*

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 6:55 PM

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...

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Imagine if he gets a model akin to manduin

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 6:56 PM

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Fixed!

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@zealous basalt @dense plover @sullen dawn new leak on 4chan!!!

📎 image0.jpg

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 7:01 PM

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its not sunday

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 7:01 PM

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Hit

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You right

uncut vault Jul 27, 2019, 7:04 PM

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I like to imagine that if we get a new Wrathion model, he’ll finally take off the Turban and we’ll see little dragon horns, like all his fanart

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 7:04 PM

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...port

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he is a drake

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not a lil whelp anymore

uncut vault Jul 27, 2019, 7:05 PM

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Yes, hence little horns

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Not fully grown ones like Alexstrasza

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 7:08 PM

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I liked they kinda

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gave her model a small cleanup of textures

terse patrol Jul 27, 2019, 7:18 PM

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I really don’t like his turban, for whatever reason.

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Idk, maybe because its huge.

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 7:20 PM

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@gandem im in!

tropic trail Jul 27, 2019, 7:20 PM

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eeeeh whaaat

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 7:21 PM

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Hes a man of style. Gotta meep the turban

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*keep

tropic trail Jul 27, 2019, 7:21 PM

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Pyromancer cant be serious? He just said that this "shadowlands" expansion leak is "confirmed" from a secret source he has, on Asmons stream. Im not sure man

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 7:21 PM

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I didnt think pyro had sources

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Also so him more as a lore speculator, not an industry connected dude

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*always

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 7:25 PM

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Pyro is garbage

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None of his lore stuff is correct

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Please don’t support him

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There is no lore nerd who supports pyro

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 7:25 PM

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Or bellular

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 7:25 PM

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^^^

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If you want lore, there are lore channels

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Pyro and Bellular are not them

tropic trail Jul 27, 2019, 7:26 PM

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No I mean this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjcyPnkyHCI

He said he received a message or something like this from a dev/old dev that this "shadowland" leak is legit or something

YouTube

Best Of Asmongold

Asmongold Reacts - Shadowlands Expansion Confirmed?!?!

Pyromancer came into Asmongold's stream with some very interesting information regarding the next WoW Expansion (Shadowlands).

▶ Play video

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Also I dont support Pyro

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 7:26 PM

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Asmongold isn’t legit either

tropic trail Jul 27, 2019, 7:26 PM

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Im just curious, because this is a big deal, saying something like this on a 20k+ stream

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 7:26 PM

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He doesn’t even know the lore

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He can literally say whatever he wants

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He has said some awful shit

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But he has cult followers

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So it doesn’t matter

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He will say whatever he can to get new viewers

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He hasn’t once been right about anything in the past

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And again, he has said some fucking despicable things

tropic trail Jul 27, 2019, 7:27 PM

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I know

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 7:27 PM

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He is ignorant of the lore AND a bad person

terse patrol Jul 27, 2019, 7:28 PM

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To note, isnt the Shadowlands logo just a shopped Legion logo lol

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 7:28 PM

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Yes

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It’s a recolor with photoshop edits

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It’s why the pic is crooked

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If they provided the direct image, it would be easy to prove it’s fake

#

A real legit leak wouldn’t need to have a half captured image

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Especially one that shows nyalotha with a gate that looks like the one from the dark portal

sullen dawn Jul 27, 2019, 8:25 PM

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Mrpeach is rigt about asmund, hes kind toxic

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And i never believed the leak necessarily, just enjoyed dicussing it. Prolly has like 30% chance of being real max

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That said, its the least fake leak so far

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Or rather the person tried a bit harder than most. I do like the concept ill admit, but level squish delayed till 10.0 would be annoying

tropic trail Jul 27, 2019, 8:54 PM

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i wonder when Blizzard will add more sets for Trial of Style.. i was thinking maybe 8.2.5 but next Trial of Style is August 31..

uncut lintel Jul 27, 2019, 8:56 PM

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will 8.2.5 drop live at end of august?

tropic trail Jul 27, 2019, 8:56 PM

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most likely next tuesday

uncut lintel Jul 27, 2019, 8:56 PM

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no i mean live wow

tropic trail Jul 27, 2019, 8:56 PM

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oh wait, you mean live

uncut lintel Jul 27, 2019, 8:56 PM

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yea lo

tropic trail Jul 27, 2019, 8:57 PM

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yea, probably

uncut lintel Jul 27, 2019, 8:57 PM

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i hope so

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would be a great bday present

tropic trail Jul 27, 2019, 8:57 PM

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I think 4-6 weeks after last LFR wing makes sense

uncut lintel Jul 27, 2019, 9:02 PM

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thanks

long blade Jul 27, 2019, 9:17 PM

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Wow so much salt against Asmongold, lets not be shills and ignore the fact that Taliesin has to number 1 spot in toxicity right now...

tranquil steeple Jul 27, 2019, 9:18 PM

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what does salt against asmon have to do with being shills

languid yoke Jul 27, 2019, 9:21 PM

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Dakh just outed themselves as an idiot, let them be

agile token Jul 27, 2019, 9:29 PM

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Why taliesin?

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 9:29 PM

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What does salt and shills have to do with PTR spoilers? 😅

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 9:31 PM

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Who is even

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People

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Do you think the first build Will have the New models?

uncut vault Jul 27, 2019, 9:38 PM

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probably one of them

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my bet is that blizzard will roll the races out one at a time, like WoD beta

languid yoke Jul 27, 2019, 9:39 PM

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if they do that I'll scream

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and shout

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and let it all out

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howling OOOOYOYOYOOYOOYOOYOYOO

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 9:39 PM

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Nanda

long blade Jul 27, 2019, 9:45 PM

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@agile token check out what he said about Asmon

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 9:45 PM

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Its not about toxicity

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Its about who has more knowledge of lore

agile token Jul 27, 2019, 9:46 PM

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Talisien is right though

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But I dont care

long blade Jul 27, 2019, 10:00 PM

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Lol

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nvm this chat is full of shills

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Duces

languid yoke Jul 27, 2019, 10:04 PM

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yes blizz just paid me 100$

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how did you know

tranquil steeple Jul 27, 2019, 10:07 PM

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📎 unknown.png

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 10:34 PM

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I want to get pais

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Paid

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 10:38 PM

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Only in hugs and bug report emails

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Minus the hugs 😕

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 10:39 PM

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sigh these stream defenders surely lack any sign of intelligence

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 11:05 PM

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oshite ptr down

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is what i am going to say when it happens

tropic trail Jul 27, 2019, 11:06 PM

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omg

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dude

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Makore

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go sleep, I believed it for a second until I read your second line

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 11:10 PM

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Imagine having to wait for a PTR to try new content

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-This comment was posted by the dev gang

languid yoke Jul 27, 2019, 11:19 PM

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3 more days

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 11:21 PM

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Sksksksksksksksk

📎 image0.jpg

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 11:25 PM

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Imagine being hyped by a fake leak

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-This comment was posted by the intellectual gang

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 11:25 PM

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Sksksksksksk

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 11:26 PM

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It’s literally fake

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There’s so much wrong with it

#

Also

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 11:26 PM

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Sksksksksksksk

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 11:26 PM

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Did you bother to notice that the left half is literally the broken isles?

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 11:26 PM

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Wait peach

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I am curious

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What do you think is wrong with it?

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 11:27 PM

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Like literally the left two zones are clearly azsuna and the forest zone

#

Let’s continue

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Alnir riftlands is way too long of a name

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Try and find a zone name with a name even close to that in length

languid yoke Jul 27, 2019, 11:28 PM

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Crystalsong Forest would like to have a word

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 11:28 PM

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You won’t

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Yeah

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That was like

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The only one

languid yoke Jul 27, 2019, 11:28 PM

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or Stormsong Valley

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 11:28 PM

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They stopped after wrath

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 11:28 PM

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Those zones don't look like broken isles at all

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 11:28 PM

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Much shorter

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The left two zones do look like the broken isles

languid yoke Jul 27, 2019, 11:28 PM

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it's not shorter, it's one letter longer

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 11:28 PM

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It is?

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Well, fuck me I guess

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 11:28 PM

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They're two completely different zones bruv

languid yoke Jul 27, 2019, 11:28 PM

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Alnir Riftlands is 14 letters, Stormsong Valley is 15

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B)

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 11:29 PM

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No wait

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 11:29 PM

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Alnir riftlands would realate to the "rift of aln"

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 11:29 PM

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Lol emerald X raid

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 11:29 PM

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Ye

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 11:29 PM

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In the same fucking place as emerald nightmare

jade basalt Jul 27, 2019, 11:29 PM

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The map is just too pretty to be real. Blizzard would not bother to draw multiple coastal depths just for a quick design sketch. The fact that this leak and the other leak both have included these multiple layers of coastal depths is a strong hint that not only are they fake, they may also have been done by the same guy.

https://gamepedia.cursecdn.com/wowpedia/d/d0/Broken_Isles_original_layout.jpg?version=33824927575c9ff29f86169803862504

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 11:29 PM

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Omg

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Look at the broken isles in game

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The map looks very similar

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And again

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Emerald something raid

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XD

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 11:30 PM

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Tbf you don't see the water in that pic cause they cut it for the legion background @jade basalt

jade basalt Jul 27, 2019, 11:30 PM

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They're always extremely simple. https://gamepedia.cursecdn.com/wowpedia/0/01/Sunwell_Plateau_design.jpg?version=e3b9044af4b7fe1b1577299b916e7261
https://gamepedia.cursecdn.com/wowpedia/9/9e/Nagrand_Artcraft_6.jpg?version=fd49cb21b50211ae68466ba1f1239589

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 11:30 PM

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They look nothing alike man

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 11:31 PM

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I think Quiet has it right here

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LoD is too high

jade basalt Jul 27, 2019, 11:31 PM

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The "prettiest" one they have ever done is the Nazjatar one, and even then it's still nowhere close to that "leak" https://gamepedia.cursecdn.com/wowpedia/a/a3/Nazjatar_BlizzCon_2018.jpg?version=74595728db1139c29a16edbe735be498

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 11:31 PM

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Bruh the one from the leak IS extremely simple

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 11:31 PM

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You don’t put tons of art work into a map for devs to use

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It’s too detailed

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 11:31 PM

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There's no art hetd

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dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 11:31 PM

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It’s like if someone tells an elaborate lie

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 11:31 PM

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Each zone is literally a flat color

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 11:31 PM

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If it’s too elaborate there’s something wrong

jade basalt Jul 27, 2019, 11:32 PM

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There's really no point in drawing 15 coalstal depths for a quick design sketch that's going to be used like maybe twice, they've never done so https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/406285497846071306/604815666297569290/image0.jpg?width=794&height=596

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 11:32 PM

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All of the water

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And the weird rift gate

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That would literally be a circle in blizz world

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And also the logo

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 11:32 PM

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Well it's for show and tell so they gotta make it somewhat good 🤷‍♂️

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 11:32 PM

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That’s the legion logo

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No they don’t

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They rarely show the temp map

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Go watch the legion reveal

jade basalt Jul 27, 2019, 11:33 PM

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It's not for show n tell

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 11:33 PM

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Last I checked the legion logo doesn't have tenticles...

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 11:33 PM

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It’s an internal map

jade basalt Jul 27, 2019, 11:33 PM

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This is an alleged leak so supposedly it's literally just for internal stuff

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 11:33 PM

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This picture was allegedly used for the company's internal show and tell

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They do it once a year

jade basalt Jul 27, 2019, 11:33 PM

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Just go look for any zone or continent on Wowpedia and look at the design sketches.

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 11:33 PM

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All the games in the company present what they're working on for an hour

terse patrol Jul 27, 2019, 11:34 PM

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You’re ignoring that it’s literally a photoshopped Legion logo.

jade basalt Jul 27, 2019, 11:34 PM

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And they don't need to prettify or bother with such trivial things for themselves. They don't even do it for people at Blizzcon.

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 11:34 PM

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Lmao you think Shadowlands is the actual final name? A temp logo isn't suprising

jade basalt Jul 27, 2019, 11:34 PM

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This is what they showed at the design panel at BlizzCon, with millions of people https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/ZHixPFtuLhoaBuq--4wPSIgJv6vmk8G14kwIsq3OdJk/%3Fversion%3Dfd49cb21b50211ae68466ba1f1239589/https/gamepedia.cursecdn.com/wowpedia/9/9e/Nagrand_Artcraft_6.jpg

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 11:34 PM

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They don’t do temp logos

jade basalt Jul 27, 2019, 11:34 PM

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Same for literally every other design map

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 11:35 PM

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They do one logo and don’t release until it’s done

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There’s no need for a temp logo

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Why bother!

jade basalt Jul 27, 2019, 11:35 PM

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They also usually don't put the logo on a design sketch..

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 11:35 PM

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^

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It’s for internal use

terse patrol Jul 27, 2019, 11:35 PM

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Blizzard chooses an expansion name before work even starts.

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 11:35 PM

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Why do you need it!

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^

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 11:35 PM

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Ah yes, I forgot the legion logo has an eye and tenticles surrounding it's frame

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That's... Not how game development works @terse patrol

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 11:35 PM

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It’s the earliest part of the design process

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 11:36 PM

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Else overwatch would be called Titan...

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 11:36 PM

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That’s how blizzard works my dude

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They said so themselves

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Overwatcj isn’t titan

jade basalt Jul 27, 2019, 11:36 PM

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This is a design sketch (supposedly), I can't stress how irrelevant it is supposed to be, it's not a big deal for them, it's not something they need to prettify, or bother drawing 15 layers of water depth for. It's the equivalent of drawing on a napkin.

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 11:36 PM

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Those are different games

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^

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 11:36 PM

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Yeah I agree Mind... It's really not a complex map

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 11:36 PM

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Omg

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You aren’t listening

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He is saying it’s too complex

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 11:37 PM

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You're not using your eyes

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 11:37 PM

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And that it shouldn’t be if it’s real

terse patrol Jul 27, 2019, 11:37 PM

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“ITS goT TenTAclEs”

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📎 image0.jpg

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 11:37 PM

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Dude it’s way more complex than any previous concept internal map

jade basalt Jul 27, 2019, 11:37 PM

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I'm saying that the fact that this has 15 layers of water depths is a strong hint that it's not legit, because they would not do that.

terse patrol Jul 27, 2019, 11:37 PM

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📎 image0.jpg

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WOOOOOAAAAASH

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 11:37 PM

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I'm not here to prove that this is real. I'm just curious what Peach Actually thinks is wrong with the image

jade basalt Jul 27, 2019, 11:38 PM

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Also the fact that another map was "leaked" literally the same week with the exact same "15 layers of water depth", which never happened before, which indicates the same guy is just making up fake leaks.

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https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/vgU4HGdKVSRYctllZQGtuvbruzo2dLAvh-jvsPrzKy8/https/i.imgur.com/QTtBUzK.png

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 11:38 PM

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I don't doubt it Mind

tranquil steeple Jul 27, 2019, 11:39 PM

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you mean besides the unnecessary details peach is agreeing with MyMindWontQuiet in saying is too much for Blizz' idea pitching stage

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 11:39 PM

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It's not idea pitching tho

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It's show and tell

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 11:39 PM

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No it isn’t

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Who are they showing to?

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I swear if you say Disney

tranquil steeple Jul 27, 2019, 11:40 PM

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that doesn't invalidate the fact that it's too many details for such a thing among blizzard

jade basalt Jul 27, 2019, 11:40 PM

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Honestly the map itself is probably fine, but the depth layers, something Blizzard normally would never bother with + the fact that another map with the exact same depth layers was "leaked" at the same time is a strong hint aganst it

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 11:40 PM

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Employees of the company... Sksksksk

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 11:40 PM

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They don’t need to show the employees

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They get emails and have meetings

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They don’t need to be pretty for them

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Do you know anything about how companies work? At all?

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They want to spend as little money on their employees as possible

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Do only as much as necessary

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No more

jade basalt Jul 27, 2019, 11:41 PM

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The logo is even hiding an actual subzone of said map, so that would be a terrible job at showing or telling

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 11:42 PM

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It’s so clearly bullshit

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 11:43 PM

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Do you know how humans and game development works? When you work a job that requires such a heavy NDA, Not being able to present it to people gets really frustrating. When you make something the first thing you want to do is share it with someone, these Show and Tells allow the devs to "blow off steam" by letting them talk about projects to the only people they can. It's kinda like therapy.

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 11:44 PM

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Not to mention I am still firmly in the camp of Nyalotha and the shadowlands not being the same place

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That would be super lame

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XD

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That’s not at all how blizzard works

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 11:44 PM

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I mean people have literally gone public about how they're frustrated that fans won't get to see the work they did. It's a real thing. Idk why you think you know what goes on behind the scenes peach

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 11:44 PM

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MyMindWontQuiet, you’ve visited blizzard and know some people there right?

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 11:46 PM

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Personally peach I think you're a cold person

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 11:46 PM

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Ok

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Thanks?

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I don’t care what you think

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You’re ignoring all reason

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And logic

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So your opinion and ignorance make you irrelevant to any real conversation that could be had

tranquil steeple Jul 27, 2019, 11:48 PM

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throwback to bfa reveal, and how the official map(s) usually look.

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dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 11:48 PM

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^ this is one of the more detailed ones

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Notice how they do biome coloring, not zone coloring

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No logo

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And one solid water color

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 11:48 PM

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It's literally the same if you crop out the ocean levels @tranquil steeple

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 11:48 PM

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No

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The map in the ‘leak’ doesn’t have biome coloring

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Or any landmarks

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It has way too many names

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So it’s either like the old nagrand map

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In which case it’s too detailed

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Or it’s like the KT map in which case the details don’t match blizzards style

tranquil steeple Jul 27, 2019, 11:50 PM

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that's iirc, blizzcon reveal for battle for azeroth. the official preview without showing the 100% complete map

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 11:50 PM

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^

tranquil steeple Jul 27, 2019, 11:50 PM

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notice the lack of subzone naming

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the lack of logo covering part of the map

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 11:50 PM

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So first it's "the map is too detailed" and now it's "the map isn't detailed enough" make up your mind peach

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 11:50 PM

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It’s one or the other

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It doesn’t match either

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That’s the problem

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It isn’t detailed correctly for the second type but it’s not correctly Undetailed for the first type

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 11:51 PM

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Okay I wanna know what else is wrong with the image besides the shape/color blocking

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 11:51 PM

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It doesn’t match what blizzard does

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The subzone naming

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That’s not a thing

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They don’t do that on those maps

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The big center thing

tranquil steeple Jul 27, 2019, 11:52 PM

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if they'd name subzones

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 11:52 PM

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Nothing important is ever in the center of the map

tranquil steeple Jul 27, 2019, 11:52 PM

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that would be done when showing off the zone itself

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 11:52 PM

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Not in any recent expac I can think of

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They like edge placement

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Because it allows them to change the story

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 11:52 PM

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They did that for the nagrand map tho

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 11:52 PM

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Notice how all of the important cities are on the edge of the map in both BfA and Legion

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The nagrand map has the internal details this map lacks

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It doesn’t have any landmarks, biomes

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It’s worthless for providing the info the nagrand map provides

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Why name a bunch of subzones but not label the landmarks and where they are?

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And again

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They don’t Center things

tranquil steeple Jul 27, 2019, 11:54 PM

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in response to the "They did that for the nagrand map tho", yeah.. a specific zone not the expac's whole map.

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 11:54 PM

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Broken shore tower was on the edge, zuldazar and Borlaug are on the edge

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Boralus

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 11:54 PM

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The BFA cities are on the outskirts cause that's how you enter the zone. This map insinuates you enter from the middle of 5he map, so the placement does make sense here

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 11:54 PM

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Dark portal in warlords was on the edge

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Your garrisons were on the edge

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That doesn’t tho

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That’s what I’m saying

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 11:54 PM

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Again you entered from ashran and garrisoned as soon as you get to land

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 11:54 PM

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Middle map navigation isn’t a thing

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Blizz has NEVER done that

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It’s bad game design

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It means you can’t make the center area bigger once the outside is done

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 11:55 PM

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Transit

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dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 11:55 PM

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Ashran is also on the edge

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Like

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You’re proving my point

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All of the entrances and hubs are always on the outside of maps

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With 1 exception

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Crystalsong dalaran

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And it only worked because it was floating

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By the entrances were on the zone edges

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For the expac

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 11:56 PM

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I see where you're coming from here

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 11:56 PM

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Dude, it’s so clearly fake

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I’ve provided tons of evidence you don’t care about

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I’m done

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You want this to be real

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So it doesn’t matter what I say

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So the convo is over

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 11:57 PM

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Idk about that. I think it's fair to say it's possible. Nothing can be proven to be fake. But I don't think we should believe it

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 11:57 PM

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Dude

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 11:57 PM

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The convo has been over my guy

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 11:57 PM

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It’s obviously fake

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There’s too much wrong

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I’m

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Done

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 11:57 PM

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I was just posting it with the sksksksksksk as a joke

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Clearly you've never heard someone use sksksksksk

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 11:57 PM

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🙄

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 11:58 PM

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.urbandictionary.com/define.php%3Fterm=Sksksksksk&amp=true

Urban Dictionary

Urban Dictionary: Sksksksksk

A weird fucking way to laugh

dense plover Jul 27, 2019, 11:58 PM

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🙄

plain vigil Jul 27, 2019, 11:58 PM

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🥰

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❤️

tranquil steeple Jul 27, 2019, 11:59 PM

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cool. that also mean the previous posts about shadowlands from you were a joke?

zealous basalt Jul 27, 2019, 11:59 PM

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Imagine having to say it's a joke to not be more ridiculous than you are now

tranquil steeple Jul 27, 2019, 11:59 PM

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the ones without "sksksksksksksk"

plain vigil Jul 28, 2019, 12:00 AM

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Not at all Sel

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I just think the convos about the leak are cringe

agile token Jul 28, 2019, 12:00 AM

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blobglare

plain vigil Jul 28, 2019, 12:00 AM

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We can't prove anything is real or fake

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So what's the point

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Let's talk about the real shit

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Like upcoming Heratage sets

zealous basalt Jul 28, 2019, 12:01 AM

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Then shut up

plain vigil Jul 28, 2019, 12:02 AM

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Lmao okay Makore

dense plover Jul 28, 2019, 12:02 AM

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i dont want to have any coversations with you man

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you can prove something is fake 6 ways to sunday

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but you dont care

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so your opinion is trash

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and i dont want to talk with you

plain vigil Jul 28, 2019, 12:02 AM

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I just want to talk about shit man I don't want to price or disprove shit

dense plover Jul 28, 2019, 12:02 AM

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and im clearly not the only one

plain vigil Jul 28, 2019, 12:02 AM

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It's about the ride, not the end

dense plover Jul 28, 2019, 12:02 AM

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THATS WHAT THIS CHANNEL DOES

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we talk about lore

plain vigil Jul 28, 2019, 12:03 AM

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Yeah

zealous basalt Jul 28, 2019, 12:03 AM

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Imagine not having a vote kick system

dense plover Jul 28, 2019, 12:03 AM

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and the REALITIES of it

zealous basalt Jul 28, 2019, 12:03 AM

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-This post was made by LFR gang

dense plover Jul 28, 2019, 12:03 AM

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we dont talk about stuff to talk

plain vigil Jul 28, 2019, 12:03 AM

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imagine having a moderating system in place

dense plover Jul 28, 2019, 12:03 AM

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speculation here is almost entirely based on actual possibilities

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for example, 8.3 - probably dragon isles

plain vigil Jul 28, 2019, 12:03 AM

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Like Heratage set speculation

dense plover Jul 28, 2019, 12:03 AM

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not really

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theres nothing to speculate

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goblin and worgen are next

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we know that

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after, probably dranei and darkspear because theres not much else

plain vigil Jul 28, 2019, 12:04 AM

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LMAO but when I said that MONTHS ago you were screaming that dragon isles wasn't happening... Okay bud

zealous basalt Jul 28, 2019, 12:04 AM

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facepalms

dense plover Jul 28, 2019, 12:04 AM

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we dont know so speculating on what their quests will be is worthless

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uh

zealous basalt Jul 28, 2019, 12:04 AM

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Also what months ago?

plain vigil Jul 28, 2019, 12:04 AM

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Then don't participate peach?

dense plover Jul 28, 2019, 12:04 AM

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ive said months ago that dragon isles was gonna happen eventually

zealous basalt Jul 28, 2019, 12:04 AM

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Say a date?

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Because I have been here since BFA beta and

plain vigil Jul 28, 2019, 12:05 AM

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Lmao you want me to dig it up? I talked about it multiple times here

zealous basalt Jul 28, 2019, 12:05 AM

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I haven't seen you at all

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Unless you are Des

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Which I doubt

tranquil steeple Jul 28, 2019, 12:05 AM

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it ain't des

zealous basalt Jul 28, 2019, 12:05 AM

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I miss des

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Although I wanted to see his reaction to junker gnomes

plain vigil Jul 28, 2019, 12:05 AM

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I remember des thinking racial warfront sets wouldn't happen with undead even though we saw it all on the BFA cinematics/art

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Des was a girl I thought

zealous basalt Jul 28, 2019, 12:06 AM

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He a boi

plain vigil Jul 28, 2019, 12:06 AM

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The velf with the santa hat?

zealous basalt Jul 28, 2019, 12:06 AM

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yes

plain vigil Jul 28, 2019, 12:06 AM

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Oof

tranquil steeple Jul 28, 2019, 12:07 AM

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the elf with every hat, yeah.
anyways I'm with Mak on giving a date in regards to peach denying dragon isles, when you were talking with him

zealous basalt Jul 28, 2019, 12:07 AM

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Peach, I and Porter are the dragon isle gang

plain vigil Jul 28, 2019, 12:08 AM

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It was about a year ago. I've been in here on and off but I could dig something up I'm sure

tranquil steeple Jul 28, 2019, 12:08 AM

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a year ago is not "months ago"

plain vigil Jul 28, 2019, 12:08 AM

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I mean... It's more or less than 12 months ago..

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So yeah

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Sure it wasn't a couple months ago

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I was just expressing it was a while back

dense plover Jul 28, 2019, 12:09 AM

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my earliest mentiion of dragon isles

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04/19/18

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over a year ago

plain vigil Jul 28, 2019, 12:09 AM

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Hmm

dense plover Jul 28, 2019, 12:09 AM

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saying "I hope we see it this expac"

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after that

plain vigil Jul 28, 2019, 12:09 AM

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Maybe I'm thinking of Des

dense plover Jul 28, 2019, 12:10 AM

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i talk about how they were finally confirmed canon

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because when I said that, they werent

plain vigil Jul 28, 2019, 12:10 AM

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Ah no. I know what it was, we argued about junkergnome island

dense plover Jul 28, 2019, 12:10 AM

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that one DID come out of left field

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no one expected that

plain vigil Jul 28, 2019, 12:11 AM

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I mean I did

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From the beta hints

dense plover Jul 28, 2019, 12:11 AM

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everyone thought the assets were for an island expedition

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or for mechagnomes

plain vigil Jul 28, 2019, 12:11 AM

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You were completely against them existing

dense plover Jul 28, 2019, 12:11 AM

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like, the northrend ones

zealous basalt Jul 28, 2019, 12:11 AM

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No

dense plover Jul 28, 2019, 12:11 AM

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i wasnt against them

zealous basalt Jul 28, 2019, 12:11 AM

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Peach was okay with them existing

plain vigil Jul 28, 2019, 12:11 AM

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It was originally junker gnome island

dense plover Jul 28, 2019, 12:11 AM

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we just had no proof

zealous basalt Jul 28, 2019, 12:11 AM

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The one that wasn't okay was Des

plain vigil Jul 28, 2019, 12:11 AM

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Then they changed it

dense plover Jul 28, 2019, 12:11 AM

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yeah

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it was an island expedition

zealous basalt Jul 28, 2019, 12:11 AM

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because he was saying that they shouldn't waste resources on a stupid race

dense plover Jul 28, 2019, 12:11 AM

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and then it was removed

plain vigil Jul 28, 2019, 12:11 AM

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Yeah peach

zealous basalt Jul 28, 2019, 12:11 AM

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and better do it with elves

dense plover Jul 28, 2019, 12:12 AM

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im not against new things

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as long as they arent dumb

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or wasted

plain vigil Jul 28, 2019, 12:12 AM

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Well it was marked island but not specifically tieing it to expeditions, we just assumed

dense plover Jul 28, 2019, 12:12 AM

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mechagon is great

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i hope we get tinkers and they reuse the city

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as the starting zone

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it was the same size map

zealous basalt Jul 28, 2019, 12:12 AM

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Raise the city to the surface

dense plover Jul 28, 2019, 12:12 AM

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it was 100% being planned as an island expedition

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back when expeditions were going to be very different

plain vigil Jul 28, 2019, 12:13 AM

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Yesss peach

dense plover Jul 28, 2019, 12:13 AM

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still sad we dont have a treasure hunt expedition

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where we solo explore and just find treasure and solve puzzles

plain vigil Jul 28, 2019, 12:13 AM

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Junkergnome allied race plz blizz

dense plover Jul 28, 2019, 12:13 AM

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its very likely

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them and vulpera

zealous basalt Jul 28, 2019, 12:13 AM

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Not as they are now though

dense plover Jul 28, 2019, 12:13 AM

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no theyll need work

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same as kul tirans

plain vigil Jul 28, 2019, 12:13 AM

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I'm surprised you're saying they're likely tbh

dense plover Jul 28, 2019, 12:13 AM

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when BfA launched, lots of armor was broken on kul tirans

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theres a good chunk of evidence

zealous basalt Jul 28, 2019, 12:14 AM

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...I remember the first builds with the kul tirans

dense plover Jul 28, 2019, 12:14 AM

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they have extensive customization, unique voicelines and dances and emotes, full animation support, and nearly full armor support

plain vigil Jul 28, 2019, 12:14 AM

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Tbf I don't think people would kind them not getting arm or leg gear. I prefer it. Sure the option would be nice but still

dense plover Jul 28, 2019, 12:14 AM

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although tbf, they could also make it a upgrade thing

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like the night elf thing

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the night warrior

zealous basalt Jul 28, 2019, 12:14 AM

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Eeeeee

dense plover Jul 28, 2019, 12:14 AM

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they 100% have to support all armor

plain vigil Jul 28, 2019, 12:14 AM

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I don't see that happening due to the voice difference, hair, and animations

dense plover Jul 28, 2019, 12:15 AM

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whether that means armor overwriting the 3d bits (likely)

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or changing how those bits work

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i expect them to tweak it so armor just overrides the 3d bits

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falls back to some kind of base model

plain vigil Jul 28, 2019, 12:15 AM

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I think they're releasing an extreme so they have more options

dense plover Jul 28, 2019, 12:15 AM

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especially now that you can mog away everything

plain vigil Jul 28, 2019, 12:15 AM

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Ye

dense plover Jul 28, 2019, 12:16 AM

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its likely they WILL make armor overwrite the bits

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people want to be able to transmog

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limiting that by race wont happen

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but people can always mog off armor, so itll be fine

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assuming they dont change something else

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but currently, they are the most likely alliance race

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there isnt much else I can think of

plain vigil Jul 28, 2019, 12:16 AM

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I still think this will end up being the Heratage set. Maybe not the helm but the shoulders belt and back plate

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dense plover Jul 28, 2019, 12:16 AM

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those arent armor tho

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thats the model

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you cant do that

plain vigil Jul 28, 2019, 12:17 AM

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They can. With 3d assets

dense plover Jul 28, 2019, 12:17 AM

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its almost definitely just going to be flattened when wearing armor

plain vigil Jul 28, 2019, 12:17 AM

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We see it on Kik tirans

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Kul*

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Can't be any harder than void wings or a long coat

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I'm not talking about the limbs

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Just the 3D asset on their back

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And the shoulders

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Peach

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Alternative

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We get the option to use normal gnome limbs in addition to the robotic ones

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Solves both issues

jade basalt Jul 28, 2019, 12:24 AM

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MyMindWontQuiet, you’ve visited blizzard and know some people there right?
Yeah, but I don't think I can comment on whether Blizzard do cross-team show and tells or not, which is why I haven't addressed that before

dense plover Jul 28, 2019, 12:27 AM

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ah ok

jade basalt Jul 28, 2019, 12:27 AM

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In any case, that map is also just "rehashed". There's nothing "new" about it. Every continent, even the ones we expected highly (Northrend, Outland, Broken Isles, Argus, Zandalar..), came with entirely new, completely alien concepts and ideas.

This map clearly looks like someone took the latest fads and theories and ideas that we've been discussing for months/years, and put them on a map. So there's a "Black Forest", an Emerald Something, a Shirakess Camp (literally the naga that were just introduced in 8.2..), and so on. All things that are "old".

plain vigil Jul 28, 2019, 12:27 AM

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That's fair

jade basalt Jul 28, 2019, 12:29 AM

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That's the one common denominator of most leaks, they're just rehashed fan theories. The only, very few leaks, that were actually legit, brought completely new, almost alien, ideas. In fact the Cataclysm one was rejected by most because it was too "unlikely". It didn't make sense - none of it was "related" to what was going on, to what we were familiar with (Northrend).

That's how you know leaks are fake, they make too much sense, because people need logical connections. That's why they're all filled with logical next-steps, stuff we're already familiar with, they're just an amalgam of fan theories, instead of actually new content.

dense plover Jul 28, 2019, 12:30 AM

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as i said

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if a lie is extremely detailed and elaborate and believable