#beta-ptr-spoilers

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dense plover
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or im gonna rage

uncut vault
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thats the thing that lets you see treasures, right?

dense plover
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yeah

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it used to be 30 min

uncut vault
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that pretty much ensures nobodys gonna buy them

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vendor trash and some potential 385 gear or pearls isnt worth it

dense plover
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unshackled waveray changed to 250 pearls (obviously was going to change)

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you no longer buy the upgrades for benthic its done through an ethereal

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i actually dont see where to buy the scrying stones

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maybe their source has changed or something

uncut vault
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problem is that you cant buy the upgrades atm

dense plover
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caves got maps

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finally

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lots of textures of rocks and stuff were changed

zealous basalt
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what caves?

dense plover
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naz

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lots of details added as well

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pillars, shells, etc

zealous basalt
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hax

dense plover
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FLIGHT WHISTLE WORKS

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BEST CHANGE

zealous basalt
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do we have to upgrade it?

dense plover
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not yet?

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also

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example of texture changes

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that area used to be flat and empty

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now its covered in coral and kelp and some broken ships

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theyre prepping the zone with details for flight

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they may have removed scrying stones

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i cant find them anywhere

dense plover
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they added more ships to the upper area

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its got some stuck on rocks around the edges now too

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they now reward a 370 weapon in the naz intro

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quest rewards now say which spec they are aimed at - major QoL change for newbies

indigo laurel
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I would still like the option back to choose stuff thats not my armor class for style purposes. Maybe if they can tell you it doesn't make much sense to you that gets more likely.

dense plover
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also in the intro you now get attacked by azerite volleys

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ashvane teaming up with azshara is now more than a cutscene that isnt implemented

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im redoing the intro because some of the changes seem to have broken things

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magni directly shows up in nazjatar to get you to do HoA stuff

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he mightve done that last build

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dont remember

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so it essentially goes (so far): Naz intro -> HoA essence intro -> highmountain scenario for HoA -> Naz

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not sure where mechagon comes in

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I will find out

indigo laurel
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Probably independent of it?

dense plover
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no

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not anymore

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you have to do some of Naz to do it now

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im assuming its once you return post HoA change stuff

indigo laurel
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Mhm, okay. A bit strange, but okay

dense plover
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no, its because they want to make sure you do that

indigo laurel
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They probably have a reson or another, but it still feels a bit strange to me. But I guess they need to have you in the essence system before they send you around to places where essence is

dense plover
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what really sucks if getting to lvl 50

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because they havent added more catchup on ptr yet

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they added some dialogue and steps to the forge intro

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MOTHER now activates the forge

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the amount of teleporting sucks

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but compared to last build a lot of teleports seem to be much faster

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they seem to have fixed something behind the scenes

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huh, they added tidestone commentary

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azshara got the stone recently while we were dealing with the naga invasions

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also lots of quests reward prismatic manapearls now

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they just dont show it because of a bug

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thats what the lua error is

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they also changed a lot of the lighting in naz - added colors mainly

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makes it look a lot better

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you unlock WQs very early

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flightwhistle does have an unlock - its part of questing

indigo laurel
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Did they add anything to lead into the PvP Elements? Or are we just to assume that it just happens despite the "truce"?

dense plover
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truce?

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what truce?

indigo laurel
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Mhm, I think after the OG scenario Lor'themar and Jaina kinda gree to not go after each other btu Azshara instead, no?

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Maybe I remember the dialogue wrong

dense plover
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that hasnt happened yet when you go to naz

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and im pretty sure thats purely a truce of convienience for that moment

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thats not a faction truce

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lorthemar doesnt have that power

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and honestly neither does jaina

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they arent the leaders of their factions

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off for the night

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ill look closer tomorrow

indigo laurel
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I kinda meant more in regards to the PvP System is Naz with the capture the point mechanics. Have a good night

uncut vault
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the pvp in nazjatar is kind of just "we dont actually attack their base, but we hate each other in the open area"

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work together on the important stuff, like the tidestone

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kill each other everywhere else

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same with mechagon

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Prince doesnt allow faction conflict in rustbolt

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everywhere else is game

dense plover
night swift
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Omg

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He returns

dense plover
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ptr down

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maybe new build

vivid harness
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Someone just got 10 gold

ionic terrace
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👀

dense plover
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heres hoping the build fixes some of the nastier issues

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@vivid harness nope, makore said next build yesterday

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this would be the build after that

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also, its probably not the release build

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they just did a ton of major changes

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they need to test more

dense plover
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servers are back up

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guess it was nothing

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they fixed benthic armor

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ofcourse the fucker keeps wandering around

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which makes upgrading infuriating

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i already reported it as a bug

zealous basalt
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Kekeke

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What if

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It is not a bug

dense plover
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him wandering?

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its poorly thought out at least

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oh boy

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servers are running like shit

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fuck me i hope this isnt because of the classic stress test

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this is so bad

night swift
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Maybe they’re shifting focus to that for the day

dense plover
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world ping is minimum 2k for me

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it was fine before restart

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now its impossibly bad

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maybe its my internet idk

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new ptr build

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lol

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67mb

strange scarab
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that's the enhancement buffs

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oh wait

dense plover
languid yoke
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does that mean you grow in size even more with the leg effect

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👀

dense plover
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only some effects scale

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dont have that one to test yet

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mechagon intro for horde changed sloghtly

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when you go talk to gazlowe at the great seal, there are greasemonkeys unloading crates

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nice touch

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they moved the mechagon WQ overlay back

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mechagon dungeon has azerite traits

night swift
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Kinda weird Mechagon uses the KT armor models

dense plover
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dont think the models do

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i think its just the sprites are a bit mixed up

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seems they broke mechagnome textures this build

dense plover
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OMG

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FLIGHT WHISTLE WORKS IN MECHAGON

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THANK GOD

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also you can skip the mechagon tour

frigid crater
dense plover
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so i figured out why the scrying stone was switched to 5 min

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they now show the treasures on your minimap

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so even tho its only 5 min, you get more stuff than before

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also the flight whistle upgrade is a quest

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but i think its account wide

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so if youve done it once you dont HAVE to do it again

uncut vault
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voidbinder walking around is probably unintended

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alliance one stands still

dense plover
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thank god

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its frustrating af

slender musk
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I think the recent update broke my char, dont show wqs

dense plover
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Just do some regular quests

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Should work

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If it doesn’t, copy a new character

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They changed a lot and it broke stuff

unreal minnow
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Jesus man when theres more content on PTR than Retail 😄

terse patrol
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Starting to seem like they’re prepping 8.2 for release.

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The ptr builds are really small now.

dense plover
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Build before last was 500mb

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They’re on their way but we are still a few weeks from RC

zealous basalt
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So tell me something

dense plover
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There’s lot of unimplemented stuff with the new changes we just got

zealous basalt
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Us that have the ptr wont have to re download it

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Right?

dense plover
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Mostly no

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It’ll just copy the files

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Some will be downloaded but not much

modest trout
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Hi everyone ! I've seen 3 new glyphs for Water Elemental for Frost Mage will come in 8.2 but there are models of these new Elementals ?

dense plover
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They’re the models that already exist

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I think it’s a color shift

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I’m not sure

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Don’t think anyone has tested them

modest trout
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mmh ok thanks ^^

inner copper
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Any news on when new worgen/goblin models will be out?

terse patrol
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8.2.5

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So, who knows.

oak wraith
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Somewhere between Soon ™ and When it's done

tropic trail
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I mean you can’t expect a date for 8.2.5 when 8.2 is still not even finished on the ptr rip

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8.2.5 wont be live till like August lol maybe September tbh.

long blade
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WHATS WRONG WITH LORTHEMARS VOICE IN PTR OMG

frigid crater
upper lantern
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what about it? D:

uncut vault
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its very high pitched and off

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sounds very different from his voice since MoP

distant folio
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the "cross eyed" bug for golden eyed BE females is fixed on the PTR
and they're still glowing 👍

uncut vault
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mhm, the glow is still very annoying, but at least they arent horridly derpy

plain vigil
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My favorite group chat 😄 what do you think of class skins? bound by class, but either race based or just open to all races.

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Just changes to visuals so we don't have things like Lightforged voidform dreanai. Or cases like fire themed abilities for Dark Iron and Tauren Paladins.

lone marten
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Shadow hunter troll hunters

plain vigil
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My favorite idea from this concept is letting Shaman choose an element to focus. Like all fire abilities. Just a cosmetic change. Not a mechanical change.

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In another group people said Shadow hunters trolls would fit better with rouges

lone marten
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i could see them being survival hunters tho

uncut vault
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theyve never had pets in lore, that wouldnt fit

lone marten
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It was just an idea

jovial coral
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I love cosmetics but I think they might as well make separate classes even if they are similar to classes that exist currently.

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The priest class skin is sensible enough.
That's the only one I'd be okay with personally.

plain vigil
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The problem is class balancing takes a lot of time and resources already. Imagine if they end up adding 5 more...

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As for the only one you're okay with... Keep in mind Dark irons historically only do fire shamanism. I mean the dark irons literally have people watching over the Firelands. Same goes for dark iron paladins. They're not paladins of the light, they're paladins of the flame.

night swift
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Boy this concept has been brought up like 50 times this week hasnt it

neat idol
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Any idea if nazjatar will have jewlery shrines?

dense plover
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no evidence so far

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but that kind of stuff usually comes last

neat idol
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hope so, if not, that prof item will become trash

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or, they update the zandalar/kultiras shrines, so they drop new gems

dense plover
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i mean

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the item lets you remove gems from sockets

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and at least so far, it works with the mechagon trinket

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so no, its still going to be useful as hell

vivid harness
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Lorthemar is now a 30s movie villain

outer hinge
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Any idea when they are going to release 8.2?

craggy nexus
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It will probably be announced soon.

lone marten
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I reckon in about two weeks

outer hinge
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im dying xD

umbral lake
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rip

sullen dawn
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Tuesday 11th or 18th probably?

dense plover
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unlikely

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they arent going to just drop the patch

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i still expect it july 3rd

jovial coral
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I hope they end up dropping a class mid expansion but I won't hold my breath

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Buccaneer class is doable imho

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With a little imagination

zealous basalt
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...dude

jovial coral
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Yo

dense plover
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not gonna happen

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i dont even expect a class next expansion

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but who knows

jovial coral
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Perhaps not going to happen, but it's a shame if it fits

dense plover
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outlaw rogue

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literally the pirate class

jovial coral
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It's more like pirate light

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But you always win these debates so I'll submit to your judgement

zealous basalt
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Its not a debate, its not even a good statement

jovial coral
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Okay?

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Maybe I'm too quick to call things, debatable.

indigo laurel
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I mean, most things you could do as a class are pretty close to something one of the existing classes already is

jovial coral
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Yeah, but the idea is to add to the meta

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And I have some ideas I know are worth expanding upon

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If there's a will there's a way

zealous basalt
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But in this case the meta is great

jovial coral
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I'm not in full support of everything I've ever suggested but the things I suggest I feel gets the ball rolling in the right direction

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Any new class would ideally add to the meta whether it were similar or not

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But you've seen my thread in the old forums.

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There's some wiggle room to make new classes but they would dictate where the lore is headed

uncut lintel
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Who r u talking to?

jovial coral
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Myself most the time

uncut lintel
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Oh ok

uncut vault
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something I noticed, they didnt do their monthly "these are the upcoming things to do this month" video on twitter. Could mean nothing, but could mean the patch comes out later this month

jovial coral
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Very insightful

outer hinge
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I really hope so, i want to start farming flying and mounts

unreal minnow
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Anything new on PTR?

dense plover
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No

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You would know

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There would be a news post saying there’s a new build

runic verge
night swift
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Thats a shame

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That armor looks so good

lyric coyote
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are heroic warfronts only doable once per cycle?

dense plover
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probably

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considering they drop equivalent to heroic gear

storm marsh
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Is it known yet where is nazjatar located on world map? Or i missed out something

dense plover
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nope

storm marsh
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I hope it will be put on world map. The small icon on kul tiras map is a bit dissapointing

dense plover
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its possible

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especially since right-clicking on the zone map takes you back to the world map

pulsar iris
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ha no easy queue to heroic warfronts

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need to be in a group already

dense plover
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duh?

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they were advertised as such

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and they drop raid equivalent gear

indigo laurel
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btw. I have no idea about talking to Devs, so if anyone has any idea how you best could send a small request/suggestion in (I mean, I don't really hope to get anything, but I would like to try) in, I would be thankful 😄

dense plover
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we dont either?

tropic trail
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@indigo laurel I would say twitter is the best way to get the attention from a dev. But thats just my experience. thats the only place where an Dev ever answered me directly. But I dont know about requests/suggestions

indigo laurel
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Ah, thought maybe someone has an idea cause you have them around more in the forums or stuff then us overseas guys 😄

storm marsh
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During Q&A, Ion said the BEST way to reach out to them directly would be Twitter since they read tweets a lot

tropic trail
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so, do I understand it right? They changed Jainas dialogue and gave it to Shandris?

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Shandris says now: There must be revenge for Teldrassil. If I remember correctly, Jaina said it before, right?

tropic trail
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nvm I got it , it wasnt Jainas dialogue before

ionic terrace
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Ah nice, the quest to get the neutral flight point in nazjatar also upgrades your whistle now

dense plover
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Yep

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It seems to be account wide though

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So you don’t have to do the quest every time to unlock the whistle

ionic terrace
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yee

dense plover
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Think you still have to unlock the FP every time

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Though that could change

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Who knows

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I still want a FP closer to the center near the raid entrance

ionic terrace
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There is one isn't there?

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after you do the story

dense plover
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Ah ok

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It isn’t on the map so I didn’t know

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That makes sense though

ionic terrace
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yea the place they hold the tidestone at

dense plover
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Gotcha

misty blaze
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i dont care about what the gear looks like either ways im transmoging to my swimsuit 😃

ionic terrace
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@dense plover shutdown time

dense plover
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sweet

ionic terrace
dense plover
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?

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wat?

ionic terrace
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someone's erazmas mini toy bugged out

dense plover
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oh ok

ionic terrace
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8.2.0.30669

dense plover
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593mb

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small broadcast text stuff

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nothing interesting

dense plover
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looks like - from the files - a lot of the nazjatar decorations got texture and model touch ups

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specifically a lot of the roof bits

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raid environment also got some significant touch ups towards the end

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same with the outside entrance

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new nazjatar and mechagon mission table backgrounds

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damn, that massive soul cleave buff tho

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servers still down tho

mystic heart
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kk

dense plover
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also looks like they finally implemented the music correctly

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lots of the music was the same in different areas

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more diversified now

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both mechagon and nazjatar

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someone ping me when servers go back up

ionic terrace
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realms are gone now lol

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whoops

dense plover
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XD

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GG Blizz

lone gale
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Has there been a Residuum vendor on the PTR yet, to show the values in the next patch?

dense plover
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they wont show until raid drop

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realms are still down

mystic heart
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but wowhead upload cinematics 😄

ionic terrace
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they sure did

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@dense plover they are up

dense plover
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thank god

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the trident was impossible

ionic terrace
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ughh they made the newhome cave indoors again

whole cedar
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i dont see these on my map

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also i legit cant solo that wq near raid entrance anymore 😦

dense plover
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they made it so you can change essences anywhere

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benthic are bind to account

uncut vault
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no rested area required? nice

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that will be good for changing between fights easier

dense plover
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activating the big mech gorilla now requires aa beastbot powerpack

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which is crafted at pascal king

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blueprint spawns right near it

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i think the SPARE crate is unlocked once you have 250 spare parts

uncut vault
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quality cutscenes

zealous basalt
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wtb cgi plox

dense plover
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it is the first draft

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think back to the other sequences

uncut vault
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we said that about the baine arrest cutscene

dense plover
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the first time we see them is much rougher than the end

uncut vault
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sylvanas' face didnt improve

dense plover
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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i prefer meh cutscenes over none

tulip sun
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What's that cutscene involving

round lake
dense plover
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you dont need to share them here

elder otter
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Eh it's not as if chat is booming, no harm really.

dense plover
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im not saying delete it

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im just saying all of the videos are available via latest-news

dense plover
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uh

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so i just got a whisper in naz

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"Unseen Presence"

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right as I was about to die

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definitely sounded like nzoth

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oh damn

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are these the same whispers as the ones from live?

uncut vault
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These got added this patch, I believe

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they are nzoth

dense plover
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cool

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pretty sure theyre tied to the head thingy

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they still havent added more levels of AP knowledge

round lake
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ah ok didnt see it in latest news

uncut vault
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yeah AK really needs to be added lol

sullen dawn
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especially for alts. my main is 50 but no idea how my alts are gonna get essences...

brave cypress
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essences should be account wide

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it's going to be really lame to farm them in every char

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and some of them are behind achievements, I guess those would be easily unlockable with alts

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has someone checked it?

uncut vault
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My hope at least is that the t4 cosmetics are

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Or that earning the achievements for some of them means you can get them on other characters

lyric coyote
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do we know what the t4 cosmetics are yet?

uncut vault
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we can see some rough animations in modelviewers, but not fully implemented ones, no

uncut vault
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I was hoping todays announcement would be a release date sad

uncut vault
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I feel like this drop point needs to be changed lol

livid steeple
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did blizz anounced 8.2 release date ?

dull flame
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No

livid steeple
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when it is supousted to be released

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at end of june maybe early july ?

dull flame
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Id say july

vestal wing
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july/august seems reasonable

uncut vault
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Definitely not August lol

vestal wing
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but there should be a reason

livid steeple
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ppl online said it will come at the end of june start of july

vestal wing
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don't trust people online

livid steeple
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it was a rumor

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they are testing it on ptr since april

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its 2 months

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so it need to come to live at the end of june start of july

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maybe middle july

tranquil steeple
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correction, people online are speculating about the release date.

livid steeple
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yea thats was right

uncut vault
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I mean, they just put out the equivalent to the two week warning from past xpacs

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so its probably the 25th or july 2nd

livid steeple
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thats what i like to hear 😄 cant wait for it to hit live

sullen dawn
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july 2nd is right before 4th of july for the yanks

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June 25th makes the most sense (hopefully)

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this would be a nice release schedule

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25th June - 8.2
9th July - Season 3
16th July - Mythic/LFR 1
30th July - LFR 2
13th August - Azshara LFR
27th August - Classic

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then 8.2.5 in september and 8.3 in december/jan

dense plover
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I’ve been saying July 2nd this whole time

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Here’s the reason

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Shadowbringers

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They want to release at the same time to try and overwhelm FFXIV it’s a good business strategy

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Also, July 2nd is a fine release date since they’ve been testing the patch thoroughly and the raid doesn’t come out until 2 weeks after

languid yoke
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shadowbringers has more content than 8.2 tho and will overwhelm wow

uncut vault
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the competition isnt really over more content, blizz knows this is a patch vs an xpac

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but any potential to keep numbers is good

lyric coyote
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Blizz doesn't plan releases around other games, it's always just coincidence

uncut vault
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No, they absolutely do. It's a very common marketing strategy

lyric coyote
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it's just coincidence, and it's not always the case

languid yoke
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I'd think it'd make more sense for 8.2 to release shortly before shadowbringers anyway

uncut vault
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its been the case with the .2 patch for the last two expansions

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but clearly its not gonna get through to someone who just repeats what they just said in response, lol

dense plover
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^^^

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It’s not a coincidence

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The 77 days thing was a coincidence

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They want to pair against FFXIV to try and keep players or force players to choose

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It’s a very common business strategy

livid steeple
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when the shadowbringers come out ?

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2 july ?

inner copper
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what are the shadowbringers?

livid steeple
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final fantasy expansion or something like that 😄

night swift
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The next final fantasy 14 expansion

livid steeple
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can someone tell me where i can find daily quests in nazjatar to rank up my minion

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i done them yesterday but today i cant find a sngle one

dense plover
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That’s because the daily reset hasn’t happened yet

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They’re in your hub in that zone

livid steeple
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ok they reseted when i write that message 😄

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doing them now

runic verge
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doesn't the 25 week schedule end at july 16th?

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oh nvm

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this means that july 9th would be the first day of the last week of season 2

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so if the season 2 schedule is kept, then 8.2 will be released in the following week, july 16th

uncut vault
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uhh, if its 25 week seasons, that means the season will release july 16th, not the patch

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the patch would release june 25th with that

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or wait, july 2nd, math is hard

dense plover
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^

livid steeple
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they said season 3 will start with azahara raid not with patch

dense plover
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which is 2 weeks after patch

livid steeple
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yep

neat idol
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Does anyone know how to get in proving grounds as dh?

vivid harness
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Garrison/ temple of white tiger

tropic trail
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@sullen dawn Hmm no Patch 8.4?

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That sucks.

sullen dawn
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I was just guessing

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No reason to expect an 8.4 though right. Unless their new content model means patches right up till next expansion

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I'd imagine 8.3.5 is final

tropic trail
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I kind of wished for Mop style patches through.

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Haven't seen a Expansion like that in a long time since well Mop.

dense plover
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They said they’re sticking to the 3 major patch style

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It allows for higher quality content

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looks at Legion

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For example, Argus

maiden halo
foggy abyss
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SadChamp tf are those prices

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I better get 50000 from a +10

runic verge
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uhh, if its 25 week seasons, that means the season will release july 16th, not the patch
the patch would release june 25th with that
or wait, july 2nd, math is hard```
they said the season will **end** with patch release
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and there's going to be a post-season

runic verge
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The launch of Rise of Azshara will mark the end of Battle for Azeroth Season 2. On launch day (date to-be-announced soon), both PvP and Mythic Keystone competition will close, and a two-week off-season for those activities will begin.

During the off-season, Mythic Keystone dungeons will still be playable using Season 2 affixes and rewards, but their seasonal achievements will no longer be available. ```
livid steeple
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what do you guys think will they add new zone in 8.3 ?

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nazjatar in bfa is like broken shore in legion

tropic trail
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I think Dragon Isles, Ny'alotha or something about the shadowlands (and Sylvanas related)

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or all 3 in one

livid steeple
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hope soo 😄 cant wait to face nzoth

daring dune
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Ny'alotha probably

livid steeple
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what do you guys think about vol jin who told him to set silvanas as warchief

daring dune
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I think it is too early to discuss this, only thing we know it is not LK and Eyir, probably some evil powers

tropic trail
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I say it was Nzoth, because this is the most simple answer and this is how blizzard handle "a plot twist you guys didnt see coming"

daring dune
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It is really logical in fact Sylvanas starting the war, making both factions weak bla bla, but in the same time Sylvanas is really powerful enemy for Nzoth, cuz forsaken can not be mind controled and other shiet by the old gods

sullen dawn
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I think Odin brought Vol'jin back and Helya whispered to Vol'jin

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I also think 8.3 is going to be a faction war based zone - potentially Quel'thalas

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with 8.3.5 having N'Zoth 'win'

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next expansion is time travel back to pre-sundering Azeroth to find ways of defeating N'Zoth

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and 10.0 could be 'Reorigination' - Titans VS Black Empire / Reshaping of Azeroth

neat idol
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Any tank and heal who wanna try the new affix in a +11 fh?

livid steeple
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but what will happend with sylvanas what she will do with xal atath

tropic trail
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xal atath is gone. You're talking about the Dagger of the Black Empire. And this is a good question, we have no idea but we know that Nathanos has the dagger now and he is on Nazjatar going alone with the dagger to complete a mission or something

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I hope whatever the reason is, blizzard is not going once again for a stupid "corrupted" by an old god story

livid steeple
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so sylvanas gived xal atath to nathanos ?

tropic trail
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yes

livid steeple
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at last we are sure sylvanas will not be last boss of this expansion

tropic trail
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and again, xal atath is gone

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the dagger is empty

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or better the dagger is corrupted by Nzoth whispers or something?

livid steeple
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ye i know that but i didnt know that sylvanas give it to nathanos

tropic trail
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we dont know exactly, but we know Nzoth told Xal atath to leave the dagger for Nzoth

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ah ok

livid steeple
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thats ture and after unath in crucible of storms we bring dagger to sylvanas

tropic trail
livid steeple
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but i miss that part when sylvanas give it to nathanos

tropic trail
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yes, and later when 8.2 patch begins Sylvanas gives the dagger to Nathanos , because the dagger will guide the way

livid steeple
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iteresting

tropic trail
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Lady Sylvanas Windrunner: Nathanos. The next phase of our campaign is at hand.
Lady Sylvanas Windrunner: Sail out with what remains of our fleet. The blade will guide you to the rendezvous.

livid steeple
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but how sylvans know that

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how she know the blade will guide him ? 😄

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sho told her that ? 😄

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nzot's whispering ?

tropic trail
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well its obvious that Nzoth whispered through the blade to her

livid steeple
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at the end horde and alliance will unite against nzoth and save the azeroth

tropic trail
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as always

livid steeple
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what do you think what will happend with saurfang baine and thrall

uncut vault
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personally, I think that 8.2.5, the patch after this, will be our SoO 2.0 moment, but when the rebels get to Orgrimmar, Sylvanas will not be there, because shes gotten whatever she needed from the war.

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And as a potential story I could see as predictable for Blizzard, she is probably working with nzoth/azshara because old gods cannot be truly killed without major damage to the planet while contained within their prisons, so she probably got him free so that he can fully die

livid steeple
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azahara will free nzoth not sylvansa 😄 blizz confirmed that 😄

uncut vault
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Im aware, but Sylvanas is the one that gets the player to Nazjatar intentionally

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and the player/heart of azeroth is what frees nzoth

livid steeple
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oh that make sense

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i dont know why players hate bfa

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the in game story is not that bad

uncut vault
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No, it definitely is. If only because it's a poorly done copy of MoP, not even getting into the story details

magic echo
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I think 8.3 is going to involve either QT or TB in some way. What makes me say that is they made a point to put portals to those two cities in the teleport room in Zuldazar, and the story has yet to make use of them. There's gonna be some horde side story in those locations. There's gotta be, otherwise why make those specific portal choices?

uncut vault
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complete with the .2 patch being a new island with a big villain that makes lorthemar and jaina band together, and talk about how the warchief is a problem that cant continue

magic echo
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I mean, considering the other two are the capital city and the wound.

uncut vault
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the portals there dont mean anything, ironforge and the exodar are there in Boralus

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its just for transport, mid-continent capitol and other continent capitol

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stuff happening in quelthalas is likely because of the story hints, not portals

magic echo
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No no I don't mean stuff happening is because of portals, I think the portals are tip-offs that we can expect story there, so they gave us quick routes to get to that new content.

uncut vault
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portals to old zones such as warfronts are at the docks anyways

magic echo
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Having mid and other-continent transport routes from Zuld/Boralus doesn't really make sense given it's redundant with the new portal rooms.

uncut vault
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exodar also has a portal in the portal room, and its not likely to be relevant

magic echo
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Don't get me started on Zuldazar's docks. I hate this city and how needlessly spread out everything is.

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And idk, I could see the Dranei getting some spotlight if we get more old god stuff. More things involving the void would probably lead in to calling on your most powerful light-wielders, right?

And Magni being a thing could perfectly well lead to something going down in Ironforge. That is the site of the ritual that turned him into a rock in the first place, right?

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Back on Horde side we know there's a lot going on with Baine. We've also got ingame text from LorThemar that acknowledges he's working on starting some shit. I'm not saying portals mean anything huge or specific, just that I think we can probably expect the story will give us SOME reason to go there. They did it with the array of portals in the Dalaran sub-chamber, and I think it's the same case here.

livid steeple
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2 of my firends who played wow with me canceled their sub because one of them is boored by the in map design in zandalar and kul tiras and dont like it

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and other one hate because he need to grind artifact power to unlock new talents on azerite gear

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i like the way they done it with hart of azeroth

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50 lvl and then we just level up to unlock that new traits

lyric coyote
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yeah horde cap city got old real fast

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I like the zone, but the city layout and look becomes annoying and garrish

livid steeple
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i like everything its not super good but its ok

dense plover
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It’s just difficult to navigate - if it had some kind of walk on teleported to the dock area it wouldn’t be so bad

magic echo
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Yeah. Taliesin covered the gripes with Dazar'alor pretty well.

uncut vault
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if only we had a race of elves adept with configuring teleporter pads, and their best one was inside dazaralor

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🤔

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shame blizzard never added one of those to horde

dense plover
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That’s my biggest gripe

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They could’ve and still COULD fix this

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But they haven’t

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Not to mention that boralus is bigger

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Imo it is the better capital of the two

magic echo
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Boralus is definitely a nicer city. It's a hellish maze of a dungeon with all it's twisting alleyways and red herring trash packs, but it's a damned nice city.

low dust
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has anyone tried the new affix yet. I did, not a fan

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they are effected by bolstering which really sucks

neat idol
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Anyone tried Mechagon already?

hidden moat
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Hey, do honor points carry over into the next patch and would I be able to use the existing honor that I had to put toward buying an essence?

dense plover
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the medals?

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technically?

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but you need the base one

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which has to be earned

hidden moat
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Ok so from my understanding the achievement requirement for the baseline blood essence is getting up to 15k HP

dense plover
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what?

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i cant

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what?

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i feel like thats very not correct

uncut vault
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Heres hoping for a release build this week

lucid steeple
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any reviews on rogue armor sets for new patch?

uncut vault
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There arent any rogue specific sets

tropic trail
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Man if we don’t hear a release date by next week it’s just rip

night swift
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People speculate july 2nd

dense plover
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its very likely

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its when shadowbringers drops

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and it makes the two week raid release during the middle of july

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which is prime raid time

languid yoke
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making players choose between an xpac and a patch

dense plover
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they did it before

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its a smart business strategy

unborn glacier
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I still say it'll be July 9th

dense plover
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i really doubt it

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because then the last lfr week is WAY too late

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they need everyone to have been able to run it for a couple of weeks before they announce 8.3

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so that blizzcon can be 9.X

uncut vault
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Im still really wondering if/how theyre going to fit 8.3 before blizzcon

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and if not, how theyre going to announce stuff at blizzcon without spoiling 8.3

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antorus barely managed to make it fully out

tropic trail
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I want to be spoiled. Cant wait anymore

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This Story is cancer enough dont need to stretch the shitline even more

livid steeple
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wil blizzard reveal new wow expansion on blizzcon 2019 ?

tropic trail
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probably yes

livid steeple
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will 8.3 be before or after blizzcon ? 😄

lyric coyote
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after

tropic trail
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most likely end of the year (december) or beginning of the next year (january)

livid steeple
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but blizzcon is in november right ?

tropic trail
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yes

livid steeple
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so 8.3 will be after blizzcon

tropic trail
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exactly

livid steeple
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ok

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what about 8.2

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end of june or early july

tropic trail
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early july makes most sense

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but we will get an announcement about the release date soon

livid steeple
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hope soo

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i quited wow because 8.0 and 8.1 are so boring

foggy abyss
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Mid June makes sense

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Late June makes more sense

livid steeple
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early july like 12 july ? 😄

languid yoke
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another 25% nerf on spit gold

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which probably still isn't enough

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just remove that dot from the boss and be done with it ffs >_>

foggy abyss
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Early like probably 20

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June

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I don't expect it to be July at all

dense plover
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patches release on tuesday

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also, they have to announce the date at least 2 weeks in advance

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because it ends the pvp season

livid steeple
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they didnt announced release date 😦

lucid steeple
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so wait will there be any leather gear that has a deep sea themse to it so i can have it so i can use a new set

night swift
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Dude

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Just go and look on wowhead

limber mural
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but it's easier to go ask other people to do it for you Kappa

dense plover
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@livid steeple announcements are usually on Thursday - patches are usually Tuesday. If the patch it going to drop July 2nd, we should get an announcement by next week

unreal minnow
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I think for US are Mondays, and EU Thursday

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I did live in US and EU right now, ive getting patches later than when i was in US.

upper remnant
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US is Tuesday and EU is Wednesday

dense plover
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^^^

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There’s no discussion about this, it’s just a fact. Major patches launch on Tuesday in the US then the next day, Wednesday, in the EU

unborn glacier
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@dense plover They've already said Season 3 starts two to three weeks after 8.2s launch. So it won't be immediate.

unreal minnow
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Oh

weak bison
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is there any changes to mages/hunters?

lyric coyote
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check wowhead

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but to answer your question, no

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only classes that got even minor changes are feral druids / frost dks

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and vengeance dh

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and holy pally I thikn

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thnk

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think*

neat idol
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ptr down too?

livid steeple
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can someone tell me how to rank up a guardian to rank 3

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someone said i need to do daily quests for 3 days to rank him up

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but i got only rank 2

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i was doing daily quests for 5 days but didnt get xp for my guardian ....

uncut vault
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yes, the PTR is down for some reason

terse patrol
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@uncut vault I hope they’re getting close to release.

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kinda feel like if not for the new Final Fantasy expac, it’d be out already.

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And they’re timing it to try and sap numbers from the competition.

dense plover
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Uh

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No

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It’s not finished

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There’s still a bunch of bugs and broken things

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They won’t release an unfinished patch

uncut vault
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there arent very many bugs left at this point

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I cant think of any game breaking ones

neat idol
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Cant use demonology warlock in last phase of last boss of Boralus seems a game breaking to me u.u

uncut vault
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is that a patch specific bug?

neat idol
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The bug has been present since day 1 u.u

limber mural
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what's the problem? felguard going straight for the boss and dying to melee?

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you can easily fix that with scripts

tranquil steeple
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pet pathing is pretty shitty for a number of reasons, like it'll try to attack the boss you're not meant to directly attack, try to follow you and then stay stuck on a platform you jumped from, after landing on the next one... all it takes is to, somewhat as Emu said, actually manage your pet

neat idol
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I literally have to summon my felguard next to the Gripping Terror on last platform because there is no available path for any of my mele demons to get him

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Not because dies by a boss melee

limber mural
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oh that one.

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should've said

neat idol
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Dreadstalkers and the Grimoir Felguard cant reach them either, so, its a wasted talent to use there

misty blaze
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it wont drop on july 2nd thats the same day final fantasy 14ths expansion launches

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mnost likely sooner

tropic trail
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Taliesin is very sure that it will be released on 18 june or at the very latest 25 june

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curious if he is right

uncut vault
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lets just hope they announce it today regardless

mystic heart
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@tropic trail I hope so
Cuz now all content revealed and tested

uncut vault
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aside from the dark ranger scenario

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cough cough blizz

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any patch now

weak bison
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do you need to do the war campaign in order to access the new zone

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also, will mages get a new portal to there?

neat idol
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there was no new portals to argus or isle of thunder and so, i think dont. Also, there will be a new portal on great seal

terse patrol
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@uncut vault I suspect they’re saving it for 8.2.5

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since it would sorta make sense considering they released maghar early

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And their plot is about Light stuff

uncut vault
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no requirements for nazjatar besides 120

unborn glacier
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@uncut vault They might be keeping the dark ranger scenario secret until release. It probably has a lot of spoilers for future patches and xpacs

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Anything having to do with the Scarlet Crusade can't mean good news for Azeroth.

uncut vault
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well, even if it was being kept a secret, it would be in the code

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even encrypted

terse patrol
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Gimme Alliance Scarlets

unborn glacier
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Lol

tropic trail
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I think thats a quest for 8.2.5 or 8.3

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where Calia will be introduced

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lets just hope she wont end on the Horde side

unborn glacier
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The Scarlet Crusade hates all that isn't them. You'll never see them join any faction

terse patrol
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Unless they die (again) and Calia raises them as Light Undead. 😉 @unborn glacier

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Letting that Scarlet aesthetic die out would suck.

ionic terrace
dense plover
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yeah

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but no official date

ionic terrace
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Yea

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I'm 100% sure it's the 2nd

dense plover
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they wont drop patch without a 2 week release date

ionic terrace
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there's no way

dense plover
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me too

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its very likely its the 2nd

livid steeple
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hope 8.2 will be on live servers 2nd july

tropic trail
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I hope 8.2.5 will go live on ptr after azshara raid will come live

livid steeple
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i just want new content on live

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i cant even rank up my guardian on ptr

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dont know is it bugged or what

dense plover
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probably bugged yeah

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did you restart after they redid the hub?

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or try to continue?

livid steeple
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i played it last time 2 days ago

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but i have done all daily quests for 5 days

dense plover
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its likely bugged from before last patch

livid steeple
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and only in frst 2 days i god xp and rank up my guardian to rank 2

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need 2 more quests to get him to rank 3 and continue with main quest line

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i will try to do it now

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oh the ptr is offline

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anyone know when it will come online again ?

uncut vault
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probably once the build is through

livid steeple
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ok

dense plover
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well build dropped

whole cedar
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build is downloading

livid steeple
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i launched battle net and there was nothing

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after i quit wow ptr

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it started to download

uncut vault
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800mb

daring dune
dense plover
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no

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because they havent given an adctual date

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warning isnt the same

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holy shit

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tons of tiny changes to the entirety of naz

livid steeple
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i still cant get into the ptr

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it says all realms are off

uncut vault
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lightning lasso is now flat damage instead of %, interesting

daring dune
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Probably it will have less damage cuz it was too strong

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still waiting interesting changes for enh sham

dense plover
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they switched zandalar and kul tiras on the naz map I think

uncut vault
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thats good

ionic terrace
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oops I forgot it was tuesday

dense plover
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me too

uncut vault
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they did

dense plover
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cool

uncut vault
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poor mandos is destined to be alone

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which means this is gonna be a great horde camping spot

ionic terrace
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Every build I hope for him to get some friends

dense plover
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Benthic items have azerite powers finally

daring dune
dense plover
daring dune
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i duno why

dense plover
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goddammit - why didnt they restore mounting in the cave

ionic terrace
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don't have a cave if you're ally 😏

dense plover
ionic terrace
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that's nice

dense plover
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when does that pop up? when you get xp?

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oh

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interesting

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cool

ionic terrace
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oh no it's a quest reward

livid steeple
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how you guys play ptr

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in my region all realms are off

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ok realms are on again

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now i hope i will find that quests to rank up my minion

tranquil steeple
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is that on a 385 item?

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oh fuck

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my chat wasn't scrolled down

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was refering to the power peach shared screenshot of

dense plover
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yes

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benthic 385 straight from the vendor

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normal is still 150

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its 150, 300, 450

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im pretty sure its less on live

tranquil steeple
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eh

livid steeple
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this update to see daily quests for your companion on the map is the best think blizzard done in this expansion so far

tranquil steeple
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normal amount is same, hc amount is +75, and mythic is +100 compared to live

dense plover
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pretty sure new AP knowledge is in too

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gonna test by transfering a character again

ionic terrace
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What happened to Brewfest updates

dense plover
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8.2.5 is probably before brewfest

livid steeple
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is mechagon a new zone or just a dungeon

dense plover
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new zone

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it has aa megadungeon in it

livid steeple
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so i need to farm rep with someone in there

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for pathfinder part 2 ?

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not only with the ugly goblins in nazjatar ?

dense plover
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yes

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both zones

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its like how you had two reps on argus

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except its two zones instead of one zone split into thirds

livid steeple
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ah so nazjatar is not like a broken shore in legion 😦

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hope they will add new zones in 8.3

dense plover
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probably

livid steeple
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i dont want to fight nzoth somewhere like dazar alor

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or sylvanas in orgrimar if she is the last boss of bfa

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😄

dense plover
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she wont be

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and its pretty much guaranteed to be nzoth as the final boss

livid steeple
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yy

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i know blizz said azahara will release nzoth

dense plover
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they didnt

livid steeple
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with help of our hart of azerot necks and he will be last boss

dense plover
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but yes

livid steeple
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they did

dense plover
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either way, there will be a zone

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they said they wanted to stick with the same patch model as legion

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so we should expect another zone in 8.3

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and probably a dungeon and raid

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and probably an expansion on the essence system

livid steeple
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hope for it to be better then 8.0 8.1 and 8.1.5

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we will see where the thinks will go in 8.2

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can someone tell me how the ashvane finished in nazjatar on azahara's side

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when she was with sylvanas

dense plover
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we dont know

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cutscene hasnt happened yet

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wait for release of the patch

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we are short like 4 cutscenes

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theyre probably rendered

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so theyll be fancy

livid steeple
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oh ok

zinc sandal
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What's the tmog in that Stratholme news screen?

uncut vault
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Mythic eternal palace gear

zinc sandal
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Ty!

jovial coral
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Eternal

dusty agate
uncut vault
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seems like a guess, since we'd probably have an announcement by now if it was next tuesday

dusty agate
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I thaught he was saying it'd be out the week after that, the 25th. I must've heard wrong lol!

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Yeah I tottaly heard wrong.

uncut vault
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it could be that his info is just wrong though

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and its heroic that comes out on the 9th

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putting the patch on the 25th

dusty agate
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I agree with you completely though about we would have a time by now I think. I'm really hoping for the 25th... fingers crossed.

molten pine
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Is there a list for how much residuum you get in each m+ in season 3 yet?

dense plover
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not yet

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probably 10x more or something

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and im still banking on a july 2nd release date

molten pine
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well some how one of my characters got a m+ chest on the ptr and a 14 gave me 20600 residuum 😐

vestal wing
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yeah. they usually increase the numbers obscenely to make hoarding before release pointless

dull flame
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I hate pre patch hoarders serves them right Leeroy

vestal wing
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not many do it anyway afaik

formal thicket
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does anyone know if i have to complete the whole war camapgne before i can enter the new zones in 8.2?

uncut vault
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You do not need to finish anything other than being 120

dense plover
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ok

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there is definitely AK on ptr now

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my 46 to 47 on live is 17106

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on ptr its 7602

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44.47% of the current amount

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also, dont know if this has been reported, but the emmisary amount is doubled - 3k instead of 1.5k

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they fixed lorthemars voice

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its not weirdly high anymore

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i knew something had to be wrong with it

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they upped the ilvl of the weapon from dark tides from 385 to 415

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thats awesome

foggy abyss
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Oh good that's great

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Litteraly EP NM Weapon ilvl

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Won't complain i love it

dense plover
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i have a feeling itll be nerfed down to 400

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or the ilvl of the raid might get a bump

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they havent yet

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but to be fair, the 415 normal weapons can have special abilities in the raid

foggy abyss
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yeah that's true

dense plover
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the azerite gear given in "a way home" is still 385, so i think they are figuring things out still

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i think the goal is probably less than 400, more than 385

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probably 395 but idk

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they changed the neltharions lair quest slightly

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you dont have to gtalk to ebonhorn now

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it just starts once you get close

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and they lowered his health a bit

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still doesnt reward enough azerite imo

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500 from that scenario

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thats nothing

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thats my major worry with this patch

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theres going to be a lot of azerite required to progress

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and its being drip fed too slowly

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so either there will be a hotfix after the first week or two that increases the amount of azerite from various sources

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or blizzard is going to face a major shitstorm of backlash

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they fixed the horde voidbinder wandering

round lake
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there will never be an easy way to balance how quickly we get azerite . Players will always find a reason to say its to slow or if its to fast then theres nothing to do

dense plover
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thats irrelevant

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when in 8.2, you need 7.2k to level from 46 to 47 and a quest aimed at players around level 50 neck only gives 500, thats too damn low

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thats not really an opinion, thats a fact

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but alongside that

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after level 50, the amount to level is like 10x higher

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so getting 400 azerite from emmisaries or 108 from the unshackled dailies feels worthless

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its going to feel like an insurmountable grind

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it will exacerbate the issue

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i would be okay with less reward frequency if the individual rewards were bigger

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in the current state on ptr, it feels bad

round lake
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is the knowledge going to increase tho? like it did in 8.1?

dense plover
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yes

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it already has on ptr

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on live 46 to 47 is 17k

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on ptr its currently 7k

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but thats still a ton when the new levels added and all of the new heart content is 50+

tranquil steeple
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strength of spirit isn't a new azerite trait, peach

uncut vault
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I’m mainly wondering which essences blizzard expects us to get by the time the raid comes out

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Cause some of these seem like they’ll require more than two weeks of content

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And a lot of them don’t even come out until season 3

terse patrol
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I just want these patch to release so I can see 8.2.5

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@uncut vault

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hate to say it but even 8.2 hasn’t caught my interest.

uncut vault
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8.2 definitely interest me gameplay wise

terse patrol
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I’m not a raider so eh.

uncut vault
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But in terms of story it’s just a lot of the same stuff as 5.2 but worse

terse patrol
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making Azshara a means for Sylvanas to do her big bad thing

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Calling it.

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Pretty sure Nathanos and his edgy ass is going to trap Azshara in the dagger.

tropic trail
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Honestly I don’t even care about what she’s doing anymore, I just want her to do it already so we can move on and go over to things that are more important like the Black Empire. She’s holding up all the fun.🤔

terse patrol
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I don’t like that they’re using the most powerful mage on Azeroth as a plot device for Sylvanas’ “end game.”

tropic trail
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Yeah, and the fact that Daddyghar is nowhere to be found like he’s literally okay with sitting it dusty Kharazan while the whole world is fighting an old guy, Azerite, a faction war, and everything else lol

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I was hoping he would make an appearance like “oh hey guys, what’s been happening” but nah. Maybe in 8.3 he will come back.

terse patrol
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@uncut vault thats my opinion

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Azshara being overshadowed by Sylvanas sucks

uncut vault
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She’s not really, in the context of 8.2

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Sylvanas doesn’t show up at all to some players

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And so far hasn’t shown up once in testing

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She isn’t the focus of 8.2, Azshara is, the story after her just doesnt really need naga stuff apparently

terse patrol
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@uncut vault Yes, but if I’m right, they’re introducing Azshara just so she can be used in Sylvanas’ end game.

tropic trail
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well, but thats the way it goes, right? The more popular Characters are always the focus and other characters play a role to tell those characters story or bring those characters story forward

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literally in every written Story, thats how it works

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It would sucks if a big girl like Azshara gonne end up in 8.2, but if its push Sylvanas her story forward Im ok with it

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I personally had wished that Azshara played a 4d Chest with Nzoth, but thats a RIP here. So Azshara lost already a core element of her Character, to me

terse patrol
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Ye, Azshara being loyal to Nzoth is dumb.

tropic trail
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yep, absolute

harsh wedge
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Will using the mission table be mandatory in 8.2 for one reason or another ?

dense plover
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She might not have a choice - 10k years of old god whispers can fuck You up

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Azshara could definitely be brainwashed into submission to Nzoth

tropic trail
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Honestly, listening to Nzoth’s voice for 20 seconds drives me insane so I believe it🤷‍♀️ he’s really annoying.

unborn glacier
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I mean..... He corrupted Neltharion and drove him insane, causing him to become Nzoths servant. I don't find it hard to believe that over the years, Azsharas free will was chipped away until she became his fanatical servant as well

uncut vault
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I feel like the whole "void/old gods can 'see' the future" stuff is a pretty good lure for someone who wants a perfect empire thats bent to her will

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even if it isnt strictly accurate for how the void actually sees the future

sullen dawn
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looks like 25/26th is looking more likely

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arena world championship summer schedule has a 2 week break beginning that week

dense plover
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That wouldn’t make sense

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They need to announce two weeks prior

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Not hint at announcing

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Or you fuck over the pvp community

tropic trail
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@dense plover Cool You Actually get Horde/Alliance Theme Weapons for Nazjatar.

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Not Bad.

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But I excepted little better through from Blizzard.

long blade
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im annoyed that all wowhead posts are mount previews

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give us the fucking date already

tropic trail
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Yea. I mean its nothing more than Mounts, Mounts, Mounts, Mounts, Mounts, and Mounts.

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Atleast give us a Update on what the Heroic Warfront Gear/Armor will be Like. Other than the Same Color but with Different Item Level and what not.

uncut vault
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They already did the “season ending soon” warning, peach, I don’t think those have ever had the specific date

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At least not in BfA

long blade
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they did 2 warnings already

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like bruh we know just release the damn thing

whole cedar
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uhm, ptr shutdown :c

dense plover
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They won’t just drop it

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They have to give the date before they drop it

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Oh look - possible new build to fix the bug report lua error hopefully

whole cedar
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RC pepehype

uncut vault
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Nice

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It’s about time lol

dense plover
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So that means we are getting close

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We should get a date sometime next week then

frigid crater
dense plover
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realms are still down

mystic heart
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Looks like patch will be on 06.02.19

foggy abyss
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06 02 19 ?

dense plover
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you mean 7/2/19

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6/2 was almost 2 weeks ago