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dense plover May 22, 2019, 4:48 PM

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theyre tweaking to buff rotations and fix them

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DKs are getting all of their issues fixed

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theyre trying to help guardian druids too

unborn glacier May 22, 2019, 5:20 PM

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@worldly storm Yes. I quite enjoy BM. The DoD build is fun, especially when you get good procs

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Kept getting between 33-41k on pull on mythic Mekka, resting at 24-26k after until intermission. 18k-20 after intermission.

tropic trail May 22, 2019, 5:38 PM

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I hope they dont change much on MM Hunter. I love MM how it is now. playing without a pet and bursting everyone down in seconds is that kind of hunter I love to play

unreal minnow May 22, 2019, 6:06 PM

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I hope they make BFA more "dangerous" like Vanilla, be more like Hard mode, when i go out from Stormwind, theres dangerous Azeroth waiting me. Not like now, im phasing from zone to zone doing pointless things casually. It feels like theres literally game button PLAY and whole BFA plays by itself, ur just here to observe and pay.

dense plover May 22, 2019, 6:12 PM

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not gonna happen

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first of all, its an mmo

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second of all, most people dont have time for that

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thats what makes WQs great

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if you only have 30 min, you can get some stuff done without feeling like you are constantly a million miles behind

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also, vanilla wasnt hard because of difficulty

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it was hard because it was slow

uncut vault May 22, 2019, 6:13 PM

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I feel like the solution to that would be (in 9.0, not BfA), bringing back elite areas as additional world quests

dense plover May 22, 2019, 6:13 PM

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it took everything you had to kill one mob and then you had to eat after

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thats lame

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not fun

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there are elite areas in nazjatar

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at least during some WQs

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some areas get infested with mobs where the lowest health is 400k or so

uncut vault May 22, 2019, 6:14 PM

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There are scenario spawns, which are good

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I mean like, up for 24 hours, go do it if you have a group ones

dense plover May 22, 2019, 6:14 PM

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theres a couple of elite only areas as well

uncut vault May 22, 2019, 6:14 PM

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One or two up at a time, at all times

dense plover May 22, 2019, 6:14 PM

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the area around the raid entrance

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a couple of the corners

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theres some

uncut vault May 22, 2019, 6:15 PM

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Those are only in the pre-questing phase

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They’re gone when you get the tidestone and the raid opens

dense plover May 22, 2019, 6:15 PM

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oh

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thats lame

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i understand why

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but its still lame

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has anyone figured out what the zone wide WQ rewards are?

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where a bunch of elites spawn with the big stars

whole cedar May 22, 2019, 7:23 PM

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PTR went down just as we won a battle for nazjatar 😄

ionic terrace May 22, 2019, 7:24 PM

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Shutdown?

hasty elbow May 22, 2019, 7:30 PM

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i guess shutdown since all realms are still offline now.

terse patrol May 22, 2019, 7:51 PM

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Hope we get some broadcast text

forest sphinx May 22, 2019, 7:55 PM

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What? PTR is down?

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Update Inc

plain crescent May 22, 2019, 7:59 PM

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Yeah, think it was about 2gb

agile token May 22, 2019, 8:02 PM

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new icon?

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forest sphinx May 22, 2019, 8:04 PM

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It's to tell you that you need to use a portal

agile token May 22, 2019, 8:05 PM

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well yes

plain crescent May 22, 2019, 8:05 PM

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Ah I guess that's the new travel guide they talked about, wanted to make it easier to find your way around

agile token May 22, 2019, 8:09 PM

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We got 8.2's music!

unreal minnow May 22, 2019, 8:10 PM

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IS PTR on?

dense plover May 22, 2019, 8:13 PM

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THERES MUSIC IN THIS BUILD

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HOORAY

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theres TONS of music

junior prairie May 22, 2019, 8:15 PM

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agile token May 22, 2019, 8:15 PM

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MUSIIIIIIIIIIIIIC

dense plover May 22, 2019, 8:16 PM

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Here is one of the many many files

📎 Music1.mp3

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i wont upload them all, but this is a preview of the quality

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its some kind of heroic theme

junior prairie May 22, 2019, 8:17 PM

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hehe beat you by a tad mr 😉 thanks though love the music! it's gorgeous

dense plover May 22, 2019, 8:18 PM

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my guess is its theme music for the raid

agile token May 22, 2019, 8:18 PM

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Sounds amazing

dense plover May 22, 2019, 8:18 PM

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probably one of the first pieces

agile token May 22, 2019, 8:18 PM

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Give me all of it

dense plover May 22, 2019, 8:18 PM

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https://wow.tools/builds/diff_new.php?from=54b3dc4ced90d45071f72a05fecfd063&to=eb9dc13f6f32a1b4992b61d6217dd6ab

WoW.tools

Collection of several World of Warcraft tools (DBC/file browser, modelviewer & more).

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sort by type mp3

junior prairie May 22, 2019, 8:18 PM

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you bugger :V lol but yeah, it's most likely Nazjatar and raid music

dense plover May 22, 2019, 8:21 PM

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giant crab is an achievement mount

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Undersea Usurper

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new island music too i think

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📎 NewMusic2.mp3

ionic terrace May 22, 2019, 8:22 PM

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dense plover May 22, 2019, 8:22 PM

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also reminds me of drustvar

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which is strange

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because I thought drustvar was done

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oh damn

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naz portal looking sweet

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load screens in?

ionic terrace May 22, 2019, 8:23 PM

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no

uncut vault May 22, 2019, 8:23 PM

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nazjatar being north of kul tiras in the map is

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very not correct

outer hinge May 22, 2019, 8:25 PM

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ooo i love the music alot, i cant wait to hear it with the zones and sounds of combat o-o

lone marten May 22, 2019, 8:27 PM

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@uncut vault It isnt actually located there, thats just an icon taking you to the actual map, like argus

dense plover May 22, 2019, 8:27 PM

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prepare yourselves

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highmountain HoA music

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im like 90% sure

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oh damn

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now im conflicted

plain crescent May 22, 2019, 8:28 PM

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damn the first quest when you get to nazjatar as alliance shocked me, not sure if it's new for this patch since I haven't played PTR in awhile

uncut vault May 22, 2019, 8:28 PM

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I hope thats true, but even then, its a terrible spot

dense plover May 22, 2019, 8:28 PM

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might be snowpaw island music

uncut vault May 22, 2019, 8:28 PM

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and its only on the kul tiras map

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and also not stylized to indicate its not actually a part of this map like argus

lone marten May 22, 2019, 8:28 PM

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it is going to be on the zandalar map

dense plover May 22, 2019, 8:28 PM

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definitely snowpaw music

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📎 SnowpawVillage.mp3

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theres a lot of this style

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island theme mixed with pandaren music

lone marten May 22, 2019, 8:30 PM

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Damn I love it

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Pandaria is the best

dense plover May 22, 2019, 8:30 PM

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https://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/1105734-rise-of-azshara-ptr-development-notes-may-22/

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"Test characters are now granted access to all Rank 3 Essences within the class Proving Grounds. Players can access the Proving Grounds by speaking to their respective class trainer in a capital city"

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📎 Snowpaw3.mp3

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mightve started to find mechagon music

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im not 100% because no file names

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📎 Mechagon1Maybe.mp3

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but it seems likely

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it has the mechanical sound

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definitely

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just found a version with bassoon and horns

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a goblin version

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📎 MechagonGoblin1.mp3

uncut vault May 22, 2019, 8:36 PM

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well the pvp azerite trait is hilariously underwhelming

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you dont get to choose, it has a set passive one

dense plover May 22, 2019, 8:37 PM

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do you mean underwhelming?

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or is it very good?

uncut vault May 22, 2019, 8:37 PM

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yes, typo

dense plover May 22, 2019, 8:37 PM

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oh ok

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ofc you dont get to choose

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that would e busted

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and then everyone would use it

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especially since you get it outside of pvp

uncut vault May 22, 2019, 8:38 PM

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I mean, now nobody is gonna use it lol

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the ones chosen are some of the worst ones that nobody picks

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also, about that training ground thing

dense plover May 22, 2019, 8:39 PM

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they might change it

uncut vault May 22, 2019, 8:39 PM

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blizz forgot to put a rested area

dense plover May 22, 2019, 8:39 PM

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XD

uncut vault May 22, 2019, 8:39 PM

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you cant change traits

dense plover May 22, 2019, 8:40 PM

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that might get fixed soon

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otherwise its waiting until after memorial day

agile token May 22, 2019, 8:41 PM

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So I race changed my night elf to tauren, but can't seem to get the heritage armor quest

dense plover May 22, 2019, 8:41 PM

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📎 MechagonDungeonMaybe.mp3

agile token May 22, 2019, 8:41 PM

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I was assuming I could do it

dense plover May 22, 2019, 8:41 PM

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you need to be exalted and have done the baine quest

agile token May 22, 2019, 8:41 PM

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Ah the baine quest

dense plover May 22, 2019, 8:42 PM

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Found different mechagon music

📎 Mechagon2.mp3

uncut vault May 22, 2019, 8:42 PM

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they definitely need to upgrade all the other portals

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https://i.gyazo.com/55f5a6f36bc5fed049e0a0733b0c04ca.jpg

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cause this is out of place lol

dense plover May 22, 2019, 8:42 PM

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FYI these are my naming schemes

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not official

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oh damn

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some of this mechagon stuff sounds like some of the band stuff ive played

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love it

agile token May 22, 2019, 8:45 PM

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Alright well, on another tauren now. Baine quest done and exalted. Quest is not there

dense plover May 22, 2019, 8:45 PM

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theyre also mixing in some tropical themes

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to remind the island aesthetic

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take a listen

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📎 MechagonIsland1.mp3

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and theyre reusing bits from the MOTHERLODE

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like references

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not cut and paste

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mixed with gnome stuff

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its really really great

unreal minnow May 22, 2019, 8:57 PM

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So whats new after restart?

dense plover May 22, 2019, 9:04 PM

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found the nazjatar music

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at least im pretty sure

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📎 Nazjatar2.mp3

agile token May 22, 2019, 9:08 PM

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I mean the files are named nazjatar

dense plover May 22, 2019, 9:08 PM

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📎 NazjatarDark1.mp3

agile token May 22, 2019, 9:08 PM

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ayye

foggy abyss May 22, 2019, 9:09 PM

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Sounds good

mystic heart May 22, 2019, 9:12 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtgvZ3YogyM

YouTube

Noone182

Rise of Azshara Music 8.2

All Music from content update Rise of Azshara in WoW BfA 8.2 00:00 Glenn Stafford 11:48 Glenn Stafford, Leo Kaliski 22:38 Mechagon 53:27 Glenn Stafford 01:04...

▶ Play video

dense plover May 22, 2019, 9:12 PM

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fuck me

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theres 2 hours?

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no wonder im taking so long

unreal minnow May 22, 2019, 9:13 PM

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Is there a NPC for equipment?

dense plover May 22, 2019, 9:15 PM

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mount equipment?

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no

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dont think so

uncut vault May 22, 2019, 9:15 PM

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they somehow made the female belf eyes even worse

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I didnt think it was possible

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https://i.gyazo.com/10f40b5f57664deabb2f40534d3bc5fd.png

dense plover May 22, 2019, 9:22 PM

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Companions have a blue health bar and when clicked on now show their level

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lots of detail added to newhome

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and probably all of nazjatar

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crucible of flaame has a new icon

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flight map is in

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Nazjatar emmisary in

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unreal minnow May 22, 2019, 9:28 PM

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CAn you seee dmg numbers?

dense plover May 22, 2019, 9:28 PM

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they removed the color on the benthic and pearled tags

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theyre just green

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@unreal minnow can you normally?

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pretty sure its an option to toggle

unreal minnow May 22, 2019, 9:29 PM

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I cannot see them.

dense plover May 22, 2019, 9:29 PM

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might be bugged

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ill check

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check your settings

unreal minnow May 22, 2019, 9:31 PM

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😄

dense plover May 22, 2019, 9:40 PM

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i have dmg numbers

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so music is in

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but doesnt seem to be implemented

forest sphinx May 22, 2019, 10:02 PM

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Do we have an ETA as to when 8.2 is going to be out?

dense plover May 22, 2019, 10:04 PM

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no

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Grizzek and Saphronetta have unique on click VO

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not complex

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basic stuff

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but its cool

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or i havent clicked enough gnomes and goblins

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i could be wrong

uncut vault May 22, 2019, 10:14 PM

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they are new

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I like saphronettas a lot

tropic trail May 22, 2019, 10:40 PM

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Im really curious why they still dont added the full Velonara quest on the ptr. mhh maybe its 8.2.5 content

foggy abyss May 22, 2019, 10:46 PM

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i don't understand shit about that Velonara quest tbh lul

tropic trail May 22, 2019, 10:57 PM

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I think thats where they will probably introduce Calia or something

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since we had back in 8.1 datamined ingame Propaganda books about Calia and they still not in the game, right?

terse patrol May 23, 2019, 12:19 AM

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Lol what if Calia takes Velonara and makes her light undead?

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@uncut vault

uncut vault May 23, 2019, 12:28 AM

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dont put that idea in my head

zealous basalt May 23, 2019, 12:29 AM

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this channel is bugged for me

frigid crater May 23, 2019, 12:46 AM

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@zealous basalt what's the problem?

zealous basalt May 23, 2019, 12:47 AM

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notifications are kinda odd

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whenever i check on here and scroll down it just doesn't registers that i saw it and it keeps getting lit

frigid crater May 23, 2019, 12:47 AM

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please click 'mark as read' and try again

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I'm experiencing the same problem

zealous basalt May 23, 2019, 12:48 AM

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dat worked

dense plover May 23, 2019, 5:57 AM

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Tinitoa

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EXCELLENT REFERENCE

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in regards to the murloc dance question from earlier

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its the karazhan dance

tranquil steeple May 23, 2019, 8:54 AM

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@unreal minnow try this

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unreal minnow May 23, 2019, 9:12 AM

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I fixed it, thank you ❤

tall parrot May 23, 2019, 10:26 PM

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So i want to do essence chain. Earthen Guardian is not giving me starting quest. What i am missing?

uncut vault May 23, 2019, 10:27 PM

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thats no longer the starting quest

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you now need to do Nazjatar up to getting your base

tall parrot May 23, 2019, 10:28 PM

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Oh alright. Thanks

uncut vault May 24, 2019, 8:53 AM

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you know, with the new whispers in mind, I think the eye of nzoth might continue into 8.2

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some of the whispers in 8.1.5 have yet to be whispered

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such as this one, which seems like it would work very well with the horde war campaign

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"With every choice, you become more my servant."

zealous basalt May 24, 2019, 4:20 PM

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Do we have new locations to access the proving grounds?

zealous basalt May 24, 2019, 5:31 PM

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You know, I find very iconic that our first essence came from a black dragon

dense plover May 24, 2019, 7:02 PM

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the big star icon for the naga commanders has chaanged

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its a trident now

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oh my god

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they made it so you can mount in the newhome cave

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so good

vivid harness May 24, 2019, 8:20 PM

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10/10 mounting in the cave saved bfa

unborn glacier May 24, 2019, 8:26 PM

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kek

tropic trail May 24, 2019, 8:27 PM

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@serene marsh hey, do you think its worth to watch out again for the old whispers and visions we had when bfA started? since we know now a lot more.
like this one: https://www.wowhead.com/news=278675/the-visions-of-ogmot-the-steadfast-spoilers#journal-page-10

or: https://www.wowhead.com/news=283179/the-whispers-of-barrowknoll-cemetery-battle-for-azeroth-alpha#whispers-mysterious-whispers

Wowhead

The Visions of Ogmot the Steadfast - Spoilers!

With each new PTR build, new items are added to loot tables from mobs. The latest build added a new item to Ogmog the Mad, at the Wound in the World: Visions of Ogmog the Steadfast. Warning: Possible Spoilers and Speculation ahead.

Wowhead

The Whispers of Barrowknoll Cemetery - Battle for Azeroth Alpha

Spirits with Old God-related whispers were spotted in the Barrowknoll Cemetery, in Drustvar. We go over those whispers and try to make sense of it.

zealous basalt May 24, 2019, 8:34 PM

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oboi

serene marsh May 24, 2019, 9:20 PM

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yeah those were fun 😄 I should revisit barrowknoll

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Mysterious Whisper whispers: Her blood is making him stronger. Yours will, too.

tropic trail May 24, 2019, 9:22 PM

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yea thats pretty much Azeroth

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but that one: Mysterious Whisper whispers: "Night falls. Her song will end."

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similiar to the Nzoth whisper from 8.1.5

serene marsh May 24, 2019, 9:32 PM

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well the first whisper relates not just to azeroth but the azshara fight

tropic trail May 24, 2019, 9:44 PM

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mhh probably youre right

tall parrot May 25, 2019, 3:17 PM

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So how come Jaina ( for Horde) and Gammon ( for Alliance) are fighting for Azshara ? I am confused.

hollow granite May 25, 2019, 3:38 PM

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because that's what the writers wanted

vestal wing May 25, 2019, 3:44 PM

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pretty sure there is a logical explanation for this

tall parrot May 25, 2019, 3:58 PM

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DnD wrote script ?

uncut vault May 25, 2019, 4:01 PM

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The explanation is that they wanted characters who could work with the other faction, Jaina usually fits that bill, and Greymane got pre-neutered in before the Storm, so now he just cares about Sylvanas

smoky mural May 25, 2019, 4:08 PM

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wait why gammon

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gammon a meme

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why is he fighting azshara

umbral lake May 25, 2019, 4:17 PM

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Gammon will save us all

jade basalt May 25, 2019, 5:00 PM

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Neptulon, Gral (and his child), and Ozumat show up outside the walls around Nazjatar (someone one Wowpedia glitched through them to get better pics)

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/572810203859255298/581533202036948992/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/572810203859255298/581534050343452677/unknown.png

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/572810203859255298/581543319360897044/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/572810203859255298/581551841851080714/unknown.png

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/572810203859255298/581535911339360279/unknown.png

strange falcon May 25, 2019, 5:44 PM

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@jade basalt in pic 2 isnt that tortolla?(or whatever the turtle loa was called),also blizz said they wanted to finish the ozumat+neptulon storyline with a raid all the way back in cata,so maybe we're getting it now.

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absolutely best case scenario but also highly unlikely is if we get the throne of the tides raid from cataclysm(which there is a model in the files for and an entrance in vash'jr) as a miniraid

forest sphinx May 25, 2019, 6:15 PM

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Is there any addons that work with the PTR or no?

unreal minnow May 25, 2019, 6:21 PM

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All addons can work

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use outdated just check that box

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etc

dense plover May 25, 2019, 6:25 PM

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They might break things

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The problem with using addon is you might report something as a bug

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When the problem is the addon

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I purposefully do not use any addons on ptr so I can report any bugs I run into

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And provide suggestions

unreal minnow May 25, 2019, 6:53 PM

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%%

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oops

jade basalt May 25, 2019, 7:30 PM

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@strange falcon Just a random turtle, there are some beyond the water walls

tulip sun May 25, 2019, 11:49 PM

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Wait...

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Gammon doesn't actually appear does he

unborn glacier May 25, 2019, 11:53 PM

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I, Gamon, will save us!

zealous basalt May 25, 2019, 11:57 PM

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Next warchief is gamon confirmed

unborn glacier May 25, 2019, 11:58 PM

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kek

zealous basalt May 26, 2019, 12:06 AM

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And he is going to be on the pub we find him in vanilla

ionic terrace May 27, 2019, 12:41 AM

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monkaS

tropic trail May 27, 2019, 12:43 AM

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I wonder if we get anything on live on Tuesday

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Hopefully a new magni quest atleast lol

ionic terrace May 27, 2019, 12:50 AM

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They gave the Org portal room an actual name

tulip sun May 27, 2019, 2:04 AM

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What is it

tropic trail May 27, 2019, 4:16 AM

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Df they did ?

zealous basalt May 27, 2019, 10:03 PM

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you know

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with all the stuff they are adding into nazjatar i wonder

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what will the next area have?

foggy abyss May 27, 2019, 10:28 PM

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So if there indeed is

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a 3rd zone

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i'm expecting Ny'alotha

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And i'm not expecting Ny'alotha to be real

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I'm expecting it to be a dream, quite similar to the emerald nightmare

dense plover May 27, 2019, 10:34 PM

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Super unlikely imo

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Dragon isles would make the most sense

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Dragons are being built up as part of 8.2

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And it’s an actual physical place

zealous basalt May 27, 2019, 10:34 PM

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but wouldn't it be like

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somewhat off from go to Nazjatar to the Dragon Isles?

dense plover May 27, 2019, 10:34 PM

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They wouldn’t make a whole zone of a dream, like emerald dream was only a small section

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Not really

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Dragon isles has a few old god motifs

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Big weird tentacle thing with a shell

zealous basalt May 27, 2019, 10:35 PM

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but is that really confirmed?

dense plover May 27, 2019, 10:35 PM

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And with dragons becoming relevant, it’s imo the most likely

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It is confirmed canon bare minimum

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And I imagine they would use the concept art with the big fossil thing

zealous basalt May 27, 2019, 10:36 PM

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Hmm

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we are yet to see

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I hope tho

dense plover May 27, 2019, 10:36 PM

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https://gamepedia.cursecdn.com/wowpedia/thumb/c/cd/Dragon_Isles.jpg/300px-Dragon_Isles.jpg?version=0ff9cc71866f0d254d996d19320c51d5

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That art

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It IS canon tho - which had been a question for a while

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Hopefully it would mean finally getting wrathion lore as well

zealous basalt May 27, 2019, 10:37 PM

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inb4 the first thing datamined is a new wrathion model

uncut vault May 27, 2019, 10:57 PM

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Probably two new Wrathion models lol

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Human form and drake form

zealous basalt May 27, 2019, 10:58 PM

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i want him to be a whelp forever tho

tropic trail May 27, 2019, 11:06 PM

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I say 8.3 will be a) dragon isles or b) ny'alotha

zealous basalt May 27, 2019, 11:06 PM

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Or

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both like 8.2

tropic trail May 27, 2019, 11:06 PM

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well yea

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since the last interview I can really see how they dont make a full black empire expansion and make it just a 8,3 patch

zealous basalt May 27, 2019, 11:08 PM

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Hmm

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I mean, if they make it better than argus, it could be good

unborn glacier May 27, 2019, 11:11 PM

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They'd really be shooting themselves in the foot if they took something like the return of the Black Empire and made it patch content and not an Xpac worth of content

tropic trail May 27, 2019, 11:11 PM

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Imagine you're Nzoth, living million of years, plotting shit for over 100 thousand of years, just to get fucked over in a patch

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feelsbadman for him if he gonna end as loot fodder in BfA

zealous basalt May 27, 2019, 11:14 PM

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Do you mean Sargeras?

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Or probably one patch in nyalotha and then forward it into a full black empire expac

uncut vault May 28, 2019, 8:15 AM

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"The team believes the two-year expansion cycle with three major content patches is the right thing right now."

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RIP people hoping for an 8.4

tulip sun May 28, 2019, 11:14 AM

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I just think the story could benefit. I don't see how this ends in one more patch

vestal wing May 28, 2019, 11:16 AM

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it will just go into prepatch for 9.0

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we miht get 8.3.5 with some goodies

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and then go into next expansion

lone marten May 28, 2019, 11:20 AM

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I really hope they take ideas and gameplay from classic and implement it into the next expansion

tulip sun May 28, 2019, 11:20 AM

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If they wanted something from classic it would be ingame already

vestal wing May 28, 2019, 11:33 AM

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I don't want any of this classic stuff in the game - they haven't removed most of this old stuff for no reason.

tulip sun May 28, 2019, 12:09 PM

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Yup

candid coral May 28, 2019, 1:26 PM

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Is there a re-usable augment rune in the ptr?

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 1:46 PM

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I thought they said legendary effects were on testeable on the proving grounds?

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dah, my bad

vivid veldt May 28, 2019, 5:54 PM

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moving it here

so is it 100% confirmed there's no additional wheel of traits? like no 3rd wheel of primary traits for more combos in 8.2?
just the titan essences?

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 5:57 PM

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Havent seen news about it, but i think they are focused on reworking the whole system with the new traits of the Heart

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:06 PM

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it seems 8.2 wont do much to help bfa.

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9.0 and the A team cant get here soon enough

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:12 PM

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Still need 8.3

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Wonder if they would pull the same this blizzcon

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Exp announcement with big ass spoilers

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:14 PM

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what kind of miracle will 8.3 pull off to fix bfa?

languid yoke May 28, 2019, 6:14 PM

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shirtless genn

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:15 PM

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The same miracle they did with Legion?

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Don't forget that Legion started off bad

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:15 PM

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oh yeah

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it got fixed in wich patch

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?

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remind me

languid yoke May 28, 2019, 6:15 PM

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legion got better in 7.1 tho

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:15 PM

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I'd say 7.2

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:15 PM

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ah

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do you think 8.2 fixes anything

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?

languid yoke May 28, 2019, 6:15 PM

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7.2 was broken shore tho, that was bad

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:15 PM

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it was 7.1

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:15 PM

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I mean, makes stuff less boring than 8.1

languid yoke May 28, 2019, 6:15 PM

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oh was it

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:16 PM

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no

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7.1 was what fixed legion

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8.2 is pretty bad from what we see

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:16 PM

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7.1 was shit as fuck, like really

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:16 PM

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the story in nazjatar is meaningless

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the zone is dull

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mechagon is the high light

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:16 PM

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that stupid focus on the damn shal'dorei

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:16 PM

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...

languid yoke May 28, 2019, 6:16 PM

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7.1 had one of the best raids ever

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:16 PM

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the... the raid

languid yoke May 28, 2019, 6:16 PM

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had karazhan

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:16 PM

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was about shaldorei

languid yoke May 28, 2019, 6:16 PM

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had better m+

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:16 PM

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they had the right amount of focus lol

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it was the amount of focus the naga should be getting, not 4 quests in 3 weeks

languid yoke May 28, 2019, 6:17 PM

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and they had tyrande deal with shaldorei

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unlike azshara :^)

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:17 PM

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yeah

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arent you happy jaina and genn get to fight azshara!!!?

languid yoke May 28, 2019, 6:17 PM

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not really, no

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I want Genn to fight Sylvanas and not Azshara

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:17 PM

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I am happy that we are getting rid of that fish

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:17 PM

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arent you happy nazjatar is literaly just a bunch of scatered buildings

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that looks more like a camp

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tha a capital of anything

languid yoke May 28, 2019, 6:17 PM

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if the upcoming sylvanas fight does not include Genn because "he is busy elsewhere" I'm gonna throw a tantrum

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:18 PM

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I mean, what did you want? a full focus for Nazjatar?

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:18 PM

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tyrande will probably go evil or become the story laughing joke in 8.3

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mh yes?

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i wasnt expecting a worse version of argus

languid yoke May 28, 2019, 6:18 PM

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nazjatar being the bigger zone, yeah

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but mechagon is somehow the focus

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:18 PM

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i wasnt expecting 3 weeks of time gated story

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i wasnt expecting all the wrong characthers there

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i wasnt expecting that azshara is there just for a plot point

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:19 PM

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If that's how they can shut down that part of the story for new things, they are all welcomed

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:19 PM

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i was expecting something at least "decent" or at least mediocre

languid yoke May 28, 2019, 6:19 PM

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the only decent char choice for nazjatar is Lor'themar

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:19 PM

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Never liked the naga story tbh

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:19 PM

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oh you dont like it

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but you think that something hinted from wc3

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should only get a half of a patch

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because we all know the actual story is going to happen after the raid

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azshara dies, nzoth is free and sylvester reveals her plot

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making nazjatar as relevant as a big island expedition

languid yoke May 28, 2019, 6:20 PM

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sylvanas endgame snaps fingers anti-sylvanas horde and alliance vanishes

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ggnore

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:21 PM

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id rather have that

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and i like night elves, who i know

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will be villified or be put in the wrong because they dont want anduin's peace

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they like managed to piss of basicaly every major group of the playerbase

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:22 PM

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Major group?

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:22 PM

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people that care for gameplay, people that like raids, people that like story, people that like specific races

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if you dont like humans, orcs or baine this story is atrocious

unborn glacier May 28, 2019, 6:23 PM

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Never liked Baine.

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:23 PM

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at least eso and ff14 are getting traction

unborn glacier May 28, 2019, 6:23 PM

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Cairne was cool

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:23 PM

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better mmo's should get even more attention

unborn glacier May 28, 2019, 6:24 PM

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Lol

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:24 PM

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...ESO...better?

night swift May 28, 2019, 6:24 PM

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Ff14 is getting a new xpac the same day 8.2 is supposedly launching

unborn glacier May 28, 2019, 6:24 PM

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I'm with makore

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:24 PM

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than wow? for story, lore, ambient and questing ? yes

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:24 PM

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That's a first

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...Story, lore, AMBIENT?

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:24 PM

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wow is extremely atrocious right now so that isnt saying anything

unborn glacier May 28, 2019, 6:24 PM

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@night swift We have zero idea when 8.2 launches

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:24 PM

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I am sorry but

night swift May 28, 2019, 6:24 PM

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Its kinda hard to compare eso to wow

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:24 PM

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Yeah, really different

night swift May 28, 2019, 6:24 PM

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The launch date was a rumor

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Not confirmed

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:25 PM

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i mean i want 8.2 to be quick

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its obvious its not that big of a patch

night swift May 28, 2019, 6:25 PM

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Which is why I say “Supposedly”

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:25 PM

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and the real story happens after the raid

languid yoke May 28, 2019, 6:25 PM

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8.2 is still a big patch

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:25 PM

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Still need 8.2.5

languid yoke May 28, 2019, 6:25 PM

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just not as big as it could or should have been

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:25 PM

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wich is where the actual plot will happen i asume

unborn glacier May 28, 2019, 6:25 PM

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No other MMO has ever been able to keep me like WoW does.

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:25 PM

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mechagon is cool

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wich is funny

languid yoke May 28, 2019, 6:25 PM

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we're still missing any kind of class balance and heroic war fronts

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:25 PM

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the trash gnomes are better than the naga capital

unborn glacier May 28, 2019, 6:25 PM

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The lore alone far surpasses any other MMO

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:25 PM

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Your issue there is that Nazjatar was made a smaller zone

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:25 PM

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ah!

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the lore?

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are you kiding me

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:25 PM

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I mean, nothing bad there

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:26 PM

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eso has tons of lore to every bit of thing you find in the gameplay

unborn glacier May 28, 2019, 6:26 PM

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Lol

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:26 PM

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voice lined everything in the questing

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wow lore is trash

languid yoke May 28, 2019, 6:26 PM

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nazjatar is a big zone, but it's not what it's supposed to be like

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:26 PM

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we literaly had the chronicles retconed in the same expact they were released

night swift May 28, 2019, 6:26 PM

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Ff14 lore builds just by playing the main story

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:26 PM

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we already have characthers acting out of lore from legion with thalysra making up lies

night swift May 28, 2019, 6:26 PM

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Which is how you progress the game

unborn glacier May 28, 2019, 6:26 PM

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"REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. WoW is bad. It's a dead MMO 4head"

Maythemoonruleoveryana#1851

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:26 PM

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we dont have any consistency in events, how magic works

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wow lore is so good we have discussions about how much free will forsaken have because a tweet made things more confusing

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the last novel had forsaken literaly act out of characther in their society

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wow lore is not good

unborn glacier May 28, 2019, 6:27 PM

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XD

night swift May 28, 2019, 6:28 PM

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They also have the problem of making more lore in the books and side things but then in WoW they use like scraps of it

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:28 PM

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and then not paying attention or communicating

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forsaken cant clap yall

unborn glacier May 28, 2019, 6:28 PM

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Maythemoonruleoveryana seems to be a McConnell wannabe

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:28 PM

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but then we go to nazmir and we see a forsaken cut in half

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and he just gets up

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forsaken cant have any past memories and atachement to lordaeron and burn books, but sylvannas has a whole speech in cata leveling of how the forsaken are the people of lordaeron in life and death

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if this is good lore

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then i sugest you get into comics

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you have the same amount of consistency

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but its more self aware

unborn glacier May 28, 2019, 6:29 PM

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Cx

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:30 PM

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such amazing lore.

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:30 PM

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And all because Nazjatar isn't as big as how some people want it.

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:30 PM

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is not a question of wanting

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its a question of "deserves"

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if you think something like nazjatar deserves to be reduced to this after years of hinting and speculation

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:31 PM

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Naga don't deserve a lot of attention rather than being put on spikes along their unworthy queen

unborn glacier May 28, 2019, 6:31 PM

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There's such thing as engine limitations xD

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:31 PM

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Also that

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:31 PM

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engine limitations they dont mind creating those fancy water walls

unborn glacier May 28, 2019, 6:32 PM

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Lol

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:32 PM

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Because it would take a lot to do those stuff and would take countless things to add

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:32 PM

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and such limitations the zone is badly used

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:32 PM

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and it would make things bored

unborn glacier May 28, 2019, 6:32 PM

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You just love reeing

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:32 PM

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Heck

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People like to trash on the size of Suramar because it is supposed to be enormous

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But in my humble opinion

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:32 PM

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i have never ever seen anyone complain about the scale of suramar

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:33 PM

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...That--

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:33 PM

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i have seen people say its not too easy to navigate, that you cant just walk around witout mobs

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and that is hell witout flying

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:33 PM

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Was a big topic before, like it is even said nowadays that it neeeded to be more big

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Heck, I don't think if you have realized but Azeroth is heavily downscaled to our pleasure

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:33 PM

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i do realize

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because of the books paint a difrent scale

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that is why suramar is the perfect size

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nazjatar is not

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it doesnt look or feel like a city or a capital

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:34 PM

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And maybe you have to ask yourself that Nazjatar was developed that way because it would take a lot to explore or to have relevant content for it

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:34 PM

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ahh such exploration an meanigfull content

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boring world quests we have always seen

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:35 PM

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And even if it doesnt look like a city it is 'maybe' because we are supposed to be in a smaller section by pure coincidence only accessing to whateverthename of the city is

unborn glacier May 28, 2019, 6:35 PM

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It's literally the RUINS of Zin'azshari lol

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:35 PM

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it isnt a coincidence, we see the palace and there isnt anything else in the surrounding area

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im talking a bout nazjatar?

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the naga city?

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i mean you usee "reeee" unironicaly

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so i dont expect much smarts of you

unborn glacier May 28, 2019, 6:36 PM

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If you expected a massive city, you clearly don't know the lore... Considering the majority of the city was completely destroyed in the Sundering

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:36 PM

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I think the important area which is the palace of Aszhara has a perfect entrance

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Unless it is the back door

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because how much we like to access through back doors

dense plover May 28, 2019, 6:36 PM

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It is the back

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:36 PM

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Is it?

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...Well, I figured it

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hah get rekt

unborn glacier May 28, 2019, 6:37 PM

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Lol

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:37 PM

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but i saw

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:37 PM

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im not talking about the ruins of zin aszhari

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im talking about nazjatar, not the freaking azsuna repeat

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:37 PM

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I did not expect a city because if we were on the real Nazjatar

dense plover May 28, 2019, 6:37 PM

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There are bags buildings

unborn glacier May 28, 2019, 6:37 PM

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Lol

dense plover May 28, 2019, 6:37 PM

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Half the zone has them

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:37 PM

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We could have been dead

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:37 PM

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the area around the raid entrace is bare

dense plover May 28, 2019, 6:37 PM

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They’re in the caves

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:38 PM

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...

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What do you talk of

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:38 PM

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if that looks like a capital of an empire

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you have to sell me a bridge makore

unborn glacier May 28, 2019, 6:38 PM

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Lol

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More reeeing

tropic trail May 28, 2019, 6:38 PM

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Genn is weak

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:38 PM

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you have a sylvannas icon, you should enjoy it

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:38 PM

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I will build you a bridge and put it next to you if that's the case

tropic trail May 28, 2019, 6:38 PM

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thats all I have to say

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👀

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:39 PM

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You silence, we not talking about genn

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But yes, think of Nazjatar as one part of it and not alll Nazjatar

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:39 PM

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you dont care for nazjatar or naga, but to say it didnt deserve something of a larger scale is being ignorant of how much it was hinted

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:39 PM

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...

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No, I don't care

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:39 PM

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and the part surrounding the statue and the entrance is bare

tulip sun May 28, 2019, 6:39 PM

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You can see zinc azshari and such spans much farther than what we physically go to

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:39 PM

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the buildings are scarce, it doesnt look like a city

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it looks like a camp or a suburb

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:40 PM

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Peach above said it was the back door of the freaking palace

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:40 PM

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a capital of anything is supposed to have a lot of buildings all put together, not a lot of empty spots

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:40 PM

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And what if it is actually a suburb of it?

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Probably the 'lowborne' part of it

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due those deep sea jinju

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:41 PM

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so lowborne the tide stone is there, we see royal guards, royal gardens

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:41 PM

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but no, let's trash it and not use our brains

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:41 PM

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we see zones dedicated to scholars and factions

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but no, lets accept mediocracity and not expect more

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:41 PM

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Why to expect more?

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:42 PM

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because it deserved more? because it could be more? because they should be trying their bests to provide the very best product?

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:42 PM

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I mean, Nagas aren't the selling point of it

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its Mechagon and the junker gnome story

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:42 PM

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....

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rise of azshara

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is the name

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of the patch

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the raid is her palace

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:42 PM

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Rise and death of Azshara it seems

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:44 PM

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yes and so the last wc3 villain goes down, just a filler for nzoth wich is probably the most boring and predictable villain in the history of villains

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:44 PM

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shrug Its better if we get rid of the past links already

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:45 PM

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true

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then can we kill anduin, jaina genn

jovial coral May 28, 2019, 6:45 PM

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I don't want Azshara to die

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:46 PM

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Nazjatar is good for what it has to offer, just a back door access to the palace while Aszhara send their honor guards to their death as she teases with us with a smal glance to a small section of the ruins of Zin'ashari

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:46 PM

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since they are pretty old characther

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especialy jaina

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she has overstayed her presence

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i cant wait for golden to leave the story, and she gets the knaak arch

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meaning she gets to cry on twitter as the new writter kills her pet characthers

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:46 PM

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That is what I expect to be honest, although Anduin is not from W3, its from WoW

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:46 PM

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bombing of stormwind he dies

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:46 PM

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Gets to cry on twitter as you are crying here?

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🤔

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And brown, sooner or later a villain has to die

terse patrol May 28, 2019, 6:47 PM

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jaina is a pet character

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:47 PM

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a villain that hasnt done anything in ages?

jovial coral May 28, 2019, 6:47 PM

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I think if Sylvanas becomes less involved it will create more story

terse patrol May 28, 2019, 6:47 PM

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literally a character from WC3

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:47 PM

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and finale gets her first apearence

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with her actual new model and actual voice

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:48 PM

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Irrelevant

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:48 PM

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if you dont think golden considers jaina a pet of hers

terse patrol May 28, 2019, 6:48 PM

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Knaak characters are literally elevated fan fic characters.

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:48 PM

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you havent read the 2 books dedicated around her

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and this whole expansion

terse patrol May 28, 2019, 6:48 PM

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“hey blizz i made a fan fic about dragons”

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:48 PM

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knaak characthers never got to the point

terse patrol May 28, 2019, 6:48 PM

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“hey lets make this guys fan fic lore”

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:48 PM

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of being raid bosses

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and surviving

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soooo

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call me when rhonin does that

terse patrol May 28, 2019, 6:48 PM

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Because they were that shitty. shruga

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:48 PM

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oh wait he dead

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but jaina is absolutly one of the pet characthers of the writing team currently

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her and anduin

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:49 PM

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Like Sylv and everyone else

terse patrol May 28, 2019, 6:49 PM

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Reminder that Knaak cemented the Windrunner Human Fetish meme.

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:49 PM

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sylv?

#

ah

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i would love if she got that treatment

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where is sylvannas 7 ingame cinamtics

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:49 PM

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Even tyrande as she got an asspull on her

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:49 PM

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emotional arch

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and constant apearences

tropic trail May 28, 2019, 6:50 PM

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but Sylvanas has no mama issues

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:50 PM

#

tyrande who they had admited they dont think isnt important for azshara?

tropic trail May 28, 2019, 6:50 PM

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👀

terse patrol May 28, 2019, 6:50 PM

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#realsylvanusfanboyhours in here

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:50 PM

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and sylvannas cant be sad like jaina

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and cry about theramore

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:50 PM

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Honk, yana isn't a sylvanas fangirl

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or boi

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noob

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:50 PM

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not realy, but it doesnt take much

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to see she is being trown under the bus by the current team

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and getting the villain bat, just like garrosh did

terse patrol May 28, 2019, 6:51 PM

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Have you ever considered

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That the writers are just bad, and they think they’re giving her a good arch?

jovial coral May 28, 2019, 6:51 PM

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Can you die inside xalatath

night swift May 28, 2019, 6:51 PM

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^

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:51 PM

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tthey are bad and also play favorites

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jaina and her costant bipolar disorder is bad writting, but nothing bad ever comes to the little elsa lady

terse patrol May 28, 2019, 6:52 PM

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Saurfang is the current WoW Team favorite.

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:52 PM

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and his sad orc cinematics

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:52 PM

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And considering thrall is back

terse patrol May 28, 2019, 6:52 PM

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Sad Orc Time.

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:52 PM

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sad orcs, spineless cows

terse patrol May 28, 2019, 6:52 PM

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“H-Hey can the Alliance get a Tyrande cinema-“

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“No, sad orcs.”

tropic trail May 28, 2019, 6:52 PM

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Sad Orc is sad

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:53 PM

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and lorthermar with his fucked up voice

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:53 PM

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It wont' surprise me if a coup happens for the war campaign of .3

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or heck .2.4

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.5*

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AND you know what is to be expected of it?

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That the coup fails

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Coup fails, Sylvanas does some crazy magic and Horde is all united over

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:53 PM

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if that means saurfang dies im all for it

tropic trail May 28, 2019, 6:54 PM

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Sadfang is already dead. They making all this sad cinematics just to prepare the ppl for even more sadness, when he dies , also in a CGI cinematic

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:54 PM

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CGI is Orc reserved

terse patrol May 28, 2019, 6:54 PM

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“hey, tyrande is having an extremely important moment by becoming the night warrior. can we make her a cgi cinematic, or at least a cinematic by Terran to show off this transformation?”

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“nah we’re making 10 sad orc cgi cinematics.”

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:54 PM

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take an ingame cinematic

night swift May 28, 2019, 6:54 PM

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“No, and she loses that fight”

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:55 PM

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...that was a hell

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:55 PM

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tyrande is getting villified after anyways

#

there are 2 paths, ignored or villain

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:55 PM

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I still remember when everyone was "And why does Nathanos can win"

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:55 PM

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i prefer the first

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:55 PM

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or a third one Yana

tropic trail May 28, 2019, 6:55 PM

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no CGI for tyrande, cuz she got her revenge 👀

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:55 PM

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One i think its going to piss you and the night elf community

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:55 PM

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i will lose my braincells if anduin is like ' no tuhrayndyu, if we fight back we are the villaainsssssssssss, you cant be evill"

night swift May 28, 2019, 6:55 PM

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“Revenge”

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:55 PM

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"She learns from ANDUIN"

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Like how she learned from Varian

terse patrol May 28, 2019, 6:56 PM

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I’m sure next expac they’re going to frame Tyrande’s wanting revenge for literal genocide as EVIL.

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:56 PM

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yeah that is part of villainfed

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:56 PM

#

And what, Honk?

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Remove night elves and put high elves?

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:56 PM

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put shandris on the leadership

terse patrol May 28, 2019, 6:56 PM

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Nah. Just decimate night elves more.

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:56 PM

#

she is already being pacified

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:56 PM

#

Defanged

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:56 PM

#

following jaina and gen around

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not killing thalyssra and lorthermar on sight

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fun stuff on nazjatar

terse patrol May 28, 2019, 6:57 PM

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“Oh, here’s the last minority of playable night elves serving Shandris. Tyrande is nuts now. Kill her and all her followers.”

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:57 PM

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this is literaly mists of pandaria witout any of the good

#

the costumization options is to brand traitors

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legion was all flare, not a lot of substance, but at least it was fun

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:57 PM

#

kek

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:57 PM

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at worse legion was kinda mediocre, but this is just .... bad

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bad in every way

jovial coral May 28, 2019, 6:58 PM

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Saurfang dying? By whose hand? Elune saved whom?

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:58 PM

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go to sleep

tropic trail May 28, 2019, 6:58 PM

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yea Tyrande is crazy evil now, she needs to pay for her crimes

terse patrol May 28, 2019, 6:58 PM

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“tyrande you destroyed that insignificant town. We will frame this as equivalent to teldrassil and mark you for a raid boss!!!”

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:58 PM

#

I honestly prefer if the next xpac has something new

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Like

#

Really new

terse patrol May 28, 2019, 6:58 PM

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Doubt it.

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:58 PM

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but im patient and young

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:58 PM

#

Not taking back stuff from warcraft series

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:59 PM

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i will live enouhg for golden to leave

terse patrol May 28, 2019, 6:59 PM

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I suspect it’s faction war 3.0

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 6:59 PM

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and the first thing the new writter does

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is kill anduin

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in a book

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 6:59 PM

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You wish for a stupid wish, but its going to be taken on consideration

terse patrol May 28, 2019, 7:00 PM

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It’ll be “elune is angry also lich king and dragons” the expac.

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 7:00 PM

#

I still hope that Gelbin can come back

terse patrol May 28, 2019, 7:00 PM

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AKA Pandaria 2.0 with zombies and dragons.

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 7:00 PM

#

this was already pandaria

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 7:00 PM

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...I recognize that reference Honk

terse patrol May 28, 2019, 7:00 PM

#

More Pandaria.

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 7:00 PM

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wich is even funnier

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 7:00 PM

#

Does it come with a super nagrand?

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 7:00 PM

#

how golden wrote that horrible elegy novel

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to make everyone sad

#

and anduin is sad about the tree

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and then tyrande is going to be avillain for wanting to do something about it

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and the whole ass race with the black eyes to follow

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 7:01 PM

#

Well tbh Yana

#

stop there for a second

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 7:01 PM

#

the narrative was so human paladins could feel vindicated and go to lordaeron

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 7:01 PM

#

If we were going realistically correct

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The tree should have never be burned considering all the protectors it could have

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 7:01 PM

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draenei, worgen, wild gods, the sentinel army, tyrande, maiev

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all of those thigns were removed by stupidity so it could be done

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 7:02 PM

#

Vindicar

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Everything

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 7:02 PM

#

and it was all this dramatic effort to make everyone sadddd

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 7:02 PM

#

Like I don't know who planned it

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 7:02 PM

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and i just know tyrande will want more and be treated as a villain, and anduin's point of view enforced

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 7:02 PM

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I mean, if this was while we were on argus

pulsar iris May 28, 2019, 7:02 PM

#

grabs popcorn

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 7:02 PM

#

i might pass it

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 7:03 PM

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Anduin is probably the worst chartacther in the setting since everyone bends itself over backwards to kiss his toes

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 7:03 PM

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But how can you forget that the Alliance defeats the Horde in an all out combat

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 7:03 PM

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lets make him high king, but have him act like pandaria

terse patrol May 28, 2019, 7:03 PM

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I just want them to get rid of the Alliance and Horde entirely.

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 7:03 PM

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but instead of being a decent story of 2 points of view clashing

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 7:03 PM

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It would make something they don't really want

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 7:03 PM

#

and anduin getting consequences for being stupid

#

he just gets all over on his papper tray

#

none of his mistakes get realy on his head as his fault

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 7:04 PM

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Considering he is young he could have a lot of consequences, that's something i give to you

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 7:04 PM

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arathi undead fiasco is all calia and sylvanans

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none him

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teldrassil is all spies and tyrande and sylvannas, not him

terse patrol May 28, 2019, 7:04 PM

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I suspect we’re getting Calia in 8.3

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 7:05 PM

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saurfang going free should be seen as a huge betrayal since he is responsible for the campaign that got the tree burned in the first place

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no consequences

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 7:05 PM

#

I hope that what Porter suspected is correct

#

About dragon isles for .3

jovial coral May 28, 2019, 7:05 PM

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What was that lol

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 7:05 PM

#

nothing anduin ever does has any meaningfull consequences and everyone around him forgets his failings

#

his point of view is always right

pulsar iris May 28, 2019, 7:05 PM

#

excuse me how could teldrassil be anduin's fault

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 7:05 PM

#

jaina and him pledge for peace, so everyone is also wanting peace

#

he was the one to fill ogrimmar with spies to the point only an idiot would ignore them

#

and then gave the order to prepare the assault on silithus

#

his incompetence of his state of spies is partly responsible, amongst many pieces

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but instead of being ever brought up its ignored

#

because poor anduina

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 7:07 PM

#

Aaand with that last you messed it

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 7:07 PM

#

he needs to be saved by jaina and alleria in lordaeron

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and no one constests this kid shouldnt be leading shit

pulsar iris May 28, 2019, 7:07 PM

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that makes no sense at all, and in the cinematic he says "you lighted the torch to teldrassil, but i failed those who burned" admiting some kind of non existing fault

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 7:07 PM

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there is a difrence betwen admiting and having actual consequences

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 7:08 PM

#

I'm just going to pass over the current discussion and just ask something different

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 7:08 PM

#

that string of bad moves should make other leaders want him out of power

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 7:08 PM

#

...Can we get Legendary effects already on PTR?

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 7:08 PM

#

push him away from leadership

pulsar iris May 28, 2019, 7:08 PM

#

the consequences isn't tyrande going rogue to kill the horde?

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"i don't care about your war, i'll go kill MY OWN ENEMY"

terse patrol May 28, 2019, 7:08 PM

#

alliance has space ship with army moving teleporters

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 7:08 PM

#

wich doesnt particulary affect anduin? he should have had at least people pushing for him to be killed off

#

or taken away from power

terse patrol May 28, 2019, 7:08 PM

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“we didnt want to include it in the story cause thats not the story we wanted to tell”

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 7:09 PM

#

turalyon, alleria, genn, tyrande, moira and muradin would all be pushing their own agendas and ignoring anduin

terse patrol May 28, 2019, 7:09 PM

#

didnt use space ship to evacuate teldrassil

pulsar iris May 28, 2019, 7:09 PM

#

not having an army of nelves does not affect the leader of the faction

terse patrol May 28, 2019, 7:09 PM

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or even wipe out the Horde army

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 7:09 PM

#

nelves still show up for his planned asault on zuldazar

#

shandris still helps

pulsar iris May 28, 2019, 7:09 PM

#

the spaceships aren't out of power?

terse patrol May 28, 2019, 7:09 PM

#

No.

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 7:09 PM

#

its on azeroth's orbit

#

doing .. nothing

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 7:09 PM

#

ship* only one

uncut vault May 28, 2019, 7:09 PM

#

The Vindicaar is used in 8.1 for transportation

terse patrol May 28, 2019, 7:09 PM

#

It’s powered by the Crown of the Triumvirate.

uncut vault May 28, 2019, 7:10 PM

#

It just isn’t as powerful as people think, and isn’t a very good offensive tool

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 7:10 PM

#

Ei Porter

uncut vault May 28, 2019, 7:10 PM

#

Took months to power up it’s laser

terse patrol May 28, 2019, 7:10 PM

#

Still could have used it to bring troops rapidly to Darkshore.

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 7:10 PM

#

and anduin should already lost any sort of politcal power in this war

terse patrol May 28, 2019, 7:10 PM

#

And evacuate Teldrassil.

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 7:10 PM

#

man it sucks to like night elves jesus

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 7:11 PM

#

It sucks to suck

uncut vault May 28, 2019, 7:11 PM

#

It sucks to like any race that isn’t humans in Warcraft

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 7:11 PM

#

at this point im waiting for nightborne to also become the true chosen of elune or something else

terse patrol May 28, 2019, 7:11 PM

#

Night Elves have been Blizzard’s punching bag post WC3.

#

Somebody with pull on the writing team hates Nelves.

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 7:11 PM

#

except when its time to put them on covers and merch

#

then they love them

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 7:11 PM

#

thats because humans master race

smoky mural May 28, 2019, 7:11 PM

#

it's likely alex

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 7:12 PM

#

nelves are amazing for visual iconic value

#

but for anything good in game? nah

pulsar iris May 28, 2019, 7:12 PM

#

nelves will never reach the true human potential

terse patrol May 28, 2019, 7:12 PM

#

Ion is a huge Hordie from what I know from someone who was in his guild.

pulsar iris May 28, 2019, 7:12 PM

#

ofc because they are not humans

smoky mural May 28, 2019, 7:12 PM

#

but ion isn't story

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 7:12 PM

#

Nelves only exist in warcraft for two purpose

#

being punching bags

terse patrol May 28, 2019, 7:12 PM

#

He runs the fucking game

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 7:12 PM

#

and source for that one rule

pulsar iris May 28, 2019, 7:13 PM

#

and hug trees not?

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 7:13 PM

#

and does it badly imo

#

bfa is a complete disaster

terse patrol May 28, 2019, 7:13 PM

#

Anything Ion says goes.

#

Story team answers to him ultimately.

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 7:13 PM

#

Thing is

smoky mural May 28, 2019, 7:13 PM

#

ion is just the face of wow

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 7:13 PM

#

Ion isn't good with story, his strong area is raid mechanics

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 7:13 PM

#

i mean what went okay in this expac? the leveling, the battle of dazar alor as a fun raid

terse patrol May 28, 2019, 7:13 PM

#

You see how adamant he is against helves for instance.

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 7:13 PM

#

and mechagon

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 7:14 PM

#

Like

meager zodiac May 28, 2019, 7:14 PM

#

everything else was a massive flop

smoky mural May 28, 2019, 7:14 PM

#

helfs thing is a real doe

pulsar iris May 28, 2019, 7:14 PM

#

when they release solo island expeditions this will be fun

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 7:14 PM

#

I don't think how you can become a game director in blizzard but

#

didn't metzen have a better reception in the story areas?

smoky mural May 28, 2019, 7:14 PM

#

have the heroic warfronts come out yet

#

yes

#

but he left

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 7:15 PM

#

Because he was a member of the story part, right?

smoky mural May 28, 2019, 7:15 PM

#

yes

terse patrol May 28, 2019, 7:15 PM

#

No, because he openly put his input into the story.

#

He ran the game.

#

Thus the story too

pulsar iris May 28, 2019, 7:16 PM

#

one person ran the whole game? oh damn

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 7:16 PM

#

...honk that was your least brillant moment

smoky mural May 28, 2019, 7:16 PM

#

alex runs the story

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 7:16 PM

#

What I meant is

pulsar iris May 28, 2019, 7:16 PM

#

honkhonk

smoky mural May 28, 2019, 7:16 PM

#

golden and alex

#

not ion

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 7:17 PM

#

So far I don't think Ion really can pull a good story because he wasn't meant for the story part

terse patrol May 28, 2019, 7:17 PM

#

The writing team still answers to the director?

pulsar iris May 28, 2019, 7:17 PM

#

i would believe ion respects the work of other sectors of the game development

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 7:17 PM

#

The raid design areas...

#

however

#

i can say he does a good job designing the raids

#

Also 'answering' doesn't mean actually saying 'write this shit in and out'

#

if that was the case the story of Legion and BfA would have the same level of medocrity with WoD

terse patrol May 28, 2019, 7:19 PM

#

Either way, Ion likely has the final say on major additions like allied races or other content.

#

Which heavily affects story.

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 7:22 PM

#

Considering how nervous he gets (imo) in every stream he is...I think that is his weakness, the part about deciding

#

Can't really blame him with a community that has that vibe of being full of psychopaths that will kill you the moment they have the chance just for a bad choice

ionic terrace May 28, 2019, 10:25 PM

#

Shutdown pog

terse patrol May 28, 2019, 10:32 PM

#

yee

dense plover May 28, 2019, 10:38 PM

#

Cool

#

Ping me if a build happens

zealous basalt May 28, 2019, 11:13 PM

#

10g next build is release

dense plover May 28, 2019, 11:27 PM

#

Unlikely

#

Heroic warfronts haven’t been tested yet

#

Lots of WQs don’t work

#

Etc

#

Two or three more major builds probably

uncut vault May 28, 2019, 11:45 PM

#

Heroic warfronts have been up for a few builds

dense plover May 28, 2019, 11:52 PM

#

They have?

#

I thought they weren’t testable yet

uncut vault May 28, 2019, 11:55 PM

#

they have been, people just havent been much

#

because it requires a raid group, and also has the connotations of warfronts

tulip sun May 28, 2019, 11:56 PM

#

10g???

#

Is that the real number

ionic terrace May 29, 2019, 12:00 AM

#

gold

uncut vault May 29, 2019, 12:00 AM

#

he meant gigabytes, and no he was just hoping

ionic terrace May 29, 2019, 12:00 AM

#

I'm pretty sure he meant 10 gold

zealous basalt May 29, 2019, 12:01 AM

#

gold

ionic terrace May 29, 2019, 12:17 AM

#

it's here @dense plover

#

585MB

dense plover May 29, 2019, 12:26 AM

#

Cool

#

Hasn’t hit wow.tools yet

ionic terrace May 29, 2019, 12:39 AM

#

uh

#

why is there a map of old vale

#

well, pre 5.4 but post 5.3

dense plover May 29, 2019, 12:40 AM

#

Broadcast text was updated

uncut vault May 29, 2019, 12:40 AM

#

maybe theyre listening to the community and adding a bronze dragon

dense plover May 29, 2019, 12:40 AM

#

^ fuck I hope this

ionic terrace May 29, 2019, 12:40 AM

#

god i would love it

zealous basalt May 29, 2019, 12:40 AM

#

OH MY GOD

#

A MAP

ionic terrace May 29, 2019, 12:45 AM

#

oh oof

#

they are making the bodyguards one per day

dense plover May 29, 2019, 12:47 AM

#

That’s, unfortunate

#

Also they are adding Azerite gear delete text

#

It’ll tell you how much residuum you can get from scrapping

#

Which hopefully means you can find that out on hover as well

zealous basalt May 29, 2019, 12:49 AM

#

On hover?

dense plover May 29, 2019, 12:51 AM

#

Hopefully

zealous basalt May 29, 2019, 12:51 AM

#

spits drink

dense plover May 29, 2019, 12:51 AM

#

Having to try to delete an item to find out how much it’s worth is dumb

zealous basalt May 29, 2019, 12:51 AM

#

Every Man for Himself Removes all stun effects

#

So, no longer shares a cd?

uncut vault May 29, 2019, 12:51 AM

#

mhm, neither does will of the forsaken

zealous basalt May 29, 2019, 12:52 AM

#

bout time

uncut vault May 29, 2019, 12:52 AM

#

<Hidden> Nazjatar - Completed Quest 1 of Week 3 - Alliance (DNT)
<Hidden> Nazjatar - Completed Quest 1 of Week 3 - Horde (DNT)

#

Story is timegated over three weeks

#

similar to argus

zealous basalt May 29, 2019, 12:53 AM

#

hax

dense plover May 29, 2019, 12:53 AM

#

Kind of figured considering the 120 tasks quest

#

That’s not bad though

zealous basalt May 29, 2019, 12:53 AM

#

is it better than argus?

dense plover May 29, 2019, 12:54 AM

#

Yes

#

There’s more WQs to start

#

And there are side quests across the zone

#

Btw looks like music is implemented in this build

#

So we should be able to get track names

mystic heart May 29, 2019, 1:15 AM

#

Can someone ping me when servers is up

zealous basalt May 29, 2019, 1:22 AM

#

So, which what the good? WoW Wiki?

uncut vault May 29, 2019, 2:14 AM

#

https://i.gyazo.com/27729f0d67efd61e69d6a4184b32c88c.jpg

#

I feel like zandalar and kul tiras should be reversed

#

https://i.gyazo.com/bc520234fcf11ae2a6dcf640d67fded9.jpg

#

mechagon is now started from nazjatar

tulip sun May 29, 2019, 2:34 AM

#

@dense plover

#

What broadcast text was changed

uncut vault May 29, 2019, 2:42 AM

#

huh

#

the eye of nzoth is back on the ptr

zealous basalt May 29, 2019, 2:43 AM

#

and what does it do?

uncut vault May 29, 2019, 2:43 AM

#

nothing different, its just back

zealous basalt May 29, 2019, 2:44 AM

#

hax

uncut vault May 29, 2019, 2:49 AM

#

also, this is gonna get even more annoying for horde

#

having to travel all the way across dazaralor to get fron nazjatar to kul tiras

zealous basalt May 29, 2019, 2:52 AM

#

HAH

#

smd hordes you suck

terse patrol May 29, 2019, 3:00 AM

#

They really need to update racial mounts.

#

Classic is coming out, so people can go there if they want the low poly stuff.

uncut vault May 29, 2019, 3:42 AM

#

yeah @dense plover quests are in now too

#

https://i.gyazo.com/767158a9616603413f35baef04d2652b.png

dense plover May 29, 2019, 3:48 AM

#

Cool

#

Is music in?

#

Like, playing?

uncut vault May 29, 2019, 3:51 AM

#

yes

dense plover May 29, 2019, 3:54 AM

#

Cool

feral prism May 29, 2019, 3:55 AM

#

is this new?

📎 WoWScrnShot_052819_225342.jpg

dense plover May 29, 2019, 3:57 AM

#

Maybe

#

Looks like they updated the caverns of time portal to be fancy

#

Sweet

uncut vault May 29, 2019, 4:01 AM

#

was there last build, but yes its new

#

poor bronze dragons, relegated to te basement of the horde one

dense plover May 29, 2019, 5:12 AM

#

Down into nazjatar was changed

#

from 120 tasks to raise an ally to rank 3

#

when you try to scrap azerite gear

📎 unknown.png

#

they locked WQ to a certain point in the nazjatar campaign

#

emmisary requires 3 WQs, gives 25 pearls

📎 unknown.png

zealous basalt May 29, 2019, 5:16 AM

#

is it good?

uncut vault May 29, 2019, 5:17 AM

#

25 is a good amount

#

I hope the nazjatar ones are always 25, and not randomly gold or AP

dense plover May 29, 2019, 5:17 AM

#

my guess is its always 25

#

plus the additional 400AP

#

ill keep looking for other changes

#

theres lots of little things

#

requesition quests have been moved to various related npcs

zealous basalt May 29, 2019, 5:19 AM

#

so

#

how do you normally go to Naz?

dense plover May 29, 2019, 5:19 AM

#

daily champion is a thing, but it seems you get a boon for completing a daily or 3 WQs or something

#

through the questline

#

then via the portal in the portal room in the new capital

#

heartforge stuff was sort of reset kinda?

tulip sun May 29, 2019, 5:20 AM

#

I wonder what happened.to the personal champion quests

dense plover May 29, 2019, 5:21 AM

#

unlocking a new power is fancy af

#

think they still exist

#

theyre being reimplemented differently

#

from what it looks like

#

its a mix of ranking up and random

#

so that you dont choose the same one every day

tulip sun May 29, 2019, 5:21 AM

#

Coolios

dense plover May 29, 2019, 5:22 AM

#

heart upgrade is now WAY more detailed

#

📎 unknown.png

#

quest, quest giver, location, heart level, as well as changes to the major and minor power

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second example

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here is an example of a M+ one

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rep vendor example

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if you cant use one, it shows the required spec

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wtf

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scrying stone was changed to 5 min duration

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that sucks

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i hope its cheaper