that's what two horde with different thoughts fight
#beta-ptr-spoilers
zealous basalt
pulsar iris
but blizz said no sylvanas fight
wise crest
its evident they wanted sylvanas to be the villain from the start
given the "choice" was a last minute addition
unborn glacier
I'll believe what a good war and the in-game says
Thats all the evidence we need\
zealous basalt
/s
pulsar iris
but @wise crest no sylvanas fight blizz promised
meager zodiac
the whole horde still agreed with the war and the invasion
unborn glacier
Yes. It was saurfangs fault
wise crest
they didnt promise no sylvanas fight.
meager zodiac
saurfang was loving the war
wise crest
they said she wont "just" go down as a raid boss
meager zodiac
the war that slaughtered night elves
and foorced everyone to run in masse to the tree
zealous basalt
offers porter some popcorn
wise crest
"whole horde" pandaren, tauren, hmt and nightborne were not involved in the run up
meager zodiac
wich was filled with night elves running, mhhh i wonder from what they were running away from
its called collective responsiblity
pulsar iris
didnt saurfang actually planned the attack?
wise crest
im glad sylvanas will take the blame
night swift
šæ
wise crest
im sure saurfang will die
meager zodiac
he even ordered each and every catapult to be pointed and ready at the tree
uncut vault
tauren were in darkshore, on multiple occasions
meager zodiac
yup
uncut vault
and were in a good war as a named character
meager zodiac
and thalyssra and lasan were part of the stormwind breakout
so they were very much into that conflict by then
wise crest
the stormwind break out was freeing princess talanji i dont think that counts as an act of evil
meager zodiac
it counts as an act of the horde
wise crest
shes not a bad person
meager zodiac
like the tree
wise crest
sure?
zealous basalt
keeps eating
meager zodiac
if you are a member of the horde to free talanji and follow her orders
pulsar iris
mak, can i have some?
meager zodiac
you are as well to take responsibility for the burning
zealous basalt
no
meager zodiac
everyone is responsibe
zealous basalt
you are the one fighting with them too
wise crest
if thats how you see things i guess
zealous basalt
hush
wise crest
but its clear the writers dont
pulsar iris
but i can't fight while hungry
wise crest
and i dont
meager zodiac
the writers are immensly incompetent this expansion
or living in their own delusional bubble getting pats in the back during office hours
zealous basalt
do it
meager zodiac
i guess the writers and you share a bit more than just ideas for sylvannas
wise crest
man, you can keep calling me delusional but its not gonna upset me
meager zodiac
the hat just fits
wise crest
I play both factions so this is just weird.
pulsar iris
steals popcorn
wise crest
i like playing both u3u
zealous basalt
mf
delicate slate
how is Dh tank doing on PTR?
chrome seal
Zin-Azshari got some more updates this build. More buildings and props now have that golden trim and new textures.
dense plover
Could you take some pics?
chrome seal
yeah looks more like the warbringers shot
dense plover
Adds some subtle differences vs the azsuna and surakarta ruins
chrome seal
Don't think they're done yet tho
chrome seal
Excited to see the end product
the vents in dragons teeth now also emit steam, dunno if they did that yet
found some more
also yay for bare feet demon hunters
terse patrol
So, no new broadcast text?
chrome seal
Don't think so :(
kinda bummed they didn't add super scared tower
he deserved to be in game
rip
chrome seal
credits to Taliesin for pointing him out
terse patrol
Feel like theyāre postponing the Scarlet quest for 8.2.5 now
dense plover
Does it move around?
chrome seal
yes!
dense plover
Thatās awesome
chrome seal
would be awesome as some sort of transportation, like the turles in northrend
dense plover
They mentioned they wanted you to move in and out of the water
That hasnāt happened yet
chrome seal
yeah and also moving bodies of water for transport
dense plover
There are clearly lots of changes still being made at least to the zone
chrome seal
yeah most of the flight points don't even have props and npc's yet
the ankoan smith is hitting the air so hard, most likely because it's so new to him
wise crest
@tropic trail lmao see you in 8.3
vestal wing
@wise crest when does 8.3 come? is it annunced already? 
smoky mural
that or bfa might reach till 8.4
dense plover
Unlikely
They said they like the 3 major patch expac design
It allows them to have bigger individual patches. Slightly less work overall too, which means they can focus on the next expac a bit easier
zealous basalt
8.10
unborn glacier
Lol
round lake
youre lookin at the next expansion at blizzcon not 8.3
runic verge
IT'S HAPPENING š® š® š®
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/411187738520322050/575935958290137118/unknown.png
hasty elbow
Why does Azshara cursed her highborne in Zin-azshari again apart from Azsuna? what are you guys opinion?
imo : ||She cursed them for accused her for the sundering which she refused it in warbringer and she want to keep them to serve her in death(guessing from broadcast text while questing in the city ruins).||
limber mural
oh wow. shame that's inevitably clientside
smoky mural
oh both of them are heroic warfronts
tropic trail
btw do we know if there will come a 3rd warfront in the future? I mean if 8.2.5 will be about the rebells getting Ogrimmar back with the alliance and Sylvanas escapes, doesnt the war end at this point and they will focus all on Nzoth?
uncut vault
there will be at least one more this expansion, yes
tropic trail
mhhh weird, so maybe tyrande will rage about Anduin and keeps the war alive or something?
uncut vault
the war doesnt end with Sylvanas, she is not the only one that is into it
tropic trail
yea I hope so
uncut vault
not all alliance leaders are anduin, even Saurfang agreed with Sylvanas' original premise
tropic trail
would be so stupid if it would end after Sylvanas goes
neat idol
Does anyone know how to add addons on ptr?
pastel frost
i imagine you just need to transfert your addons to your ptr addons folder and click addons and load addons out of date
?
neat idol
Trying that, ty
foggy abyss
jade basalt
"No.. This is not what we.. What did you do to me?!"
unreal minnow
Nazjatar ā¤
ionic terrace
@whole cedar the quest for the mini things is up today in mech
pastel frost
what that box contain?
whole cedar
@ionic terrace thanks, will cover them today
ionic terrace
yea lol
pastel frost
XD
dense plover
I pictured them more as FO4 bobbleheads
ionic terrace
They fight with other ones too
dense plover
Because it has the stand
ionic terrace
Well, "fight"
dense plover
Oh weird
ionic terrace
The npc had Gazlowe and Overspark next to him, so I put mine down and Overspark turned mine and Gazlowe into a squirrel lol
smoky mural
They datamined soo 2 map https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/392758838891380736/576573383484112924/58599155_290432741858533_1091416585085648896_n.jpg
daring dune
It's Baine rescue scenario
they just moved right side on left
total copypaste
I saw this map 3-4 weeks ago
every object in same position
and now the under Orgrimmar part on right side
smoky mural
Why would they need to modify ogrimar map for baine rescue
daring dune
We don't know how they work in Blizzard, what methods they use for new content
smoky mural
And why add new walls next to the catapults
daring dune
open map in browser and look how silly everything placed
cuz copypaste
I was looking this map inside game and under city part is flying above the coast (where the siege catapults were placed in MoP)
they just placed these catapults on left side
smoky mural
But I still don't understand the need for the new walls next to the catapults
smoky mural
Okay then
dense plover
They took the SoO map and just edited new stuff on it
They added an entirely new area, and it isnāt above ground, it just isnāt underground
Itās in a pit that you canāt see because itās hidden from the outside
vestal wing
sometimes before starting to work they just move some parts around and put random stuff on to see that everything is fine before wasting time and the thing doesn't save or anything. They just leave these random things and dataminers get confused.
proper raft
so is naz rep gated or what?
vivid harness
no
indigo laurel
@serene marsh Mhm, sorry if thats already asked, but regarding the newest article, isn't the "king" likely Magni? At least all the prophecies of the "King becoming a pawn" (from similar old god helper sources) were refering to the Diamond king/Magni, right? headscratch at least he has a bigger role in the old gods plans then Anduin
serene marsh
Hmm interesting, I could add a bit on Queen Azshara vs Magni. Usually magni was a king separated fro ma queen, while Anduin was set up in conflict with sylvanas. I'll add a line š
indigo laurel
thanks. Just had to think about Il'gynoths famous line about him being a pawn of the old gods
serene marsh
added something š
outer hinge
Whats the number of new mounts/pets in 8.2 so far?
warm quartz
thrall / Saurfang cinematic inc
leaked a bit of it -Tipsout š
not sure if it thrall doh š¤
dense plover
Iām not even gonna watch
Because you canāt leak an encrypted cinematic
And there is no saurfang anything in any of the files currently
So Iām just gonna pretend you didnāt post total bullshit
warm quartz
š¤
limber mural
šæ
dense plover
Minimum
The keys used to encrypt cinematics are long as hell, and doing that randomly would take probably 100s of years with current computing power
Oh wait
warm quartz
well idk anything about encryping and shit, just tipout stream going tru classic stuff from the summit so
dense plover
Is this like the undercity cinematic
warm quartz
and that vid with saurfang is from the wow summit
uncut vault
Itās like old soldier and lost honor
dense plover
Like real time rendered?
Ah ok
Yeah those can leak
I apologize
I assumed it was an in engine or rendered cinematic which canāt be leaked
warm quartz
aha
dense plover
Those are encrypted so itās literally impossible
warm quartz
and btw its on outland u can see a flying peace of the world
dense plover
Is it the full cinematic? Or just a clip
No it isnāt
Itās not even in the files
tropic trail
rip he leaked itt
dense plover
If it was it would be obvious because old soldier was like 300mb
Yeah dude is gonna lose any access he has to wow stuff
tropic trail
god another real time CGI with Saurfang ? rly? jesus
dense plover
Guaranteed
Probably gonna get struck down by DMCA as well
They already have the rig
Making a new one with a rig you have is much easier than with a new rig
uncut vault
Bit late now, people have screenshots
languid yoke
what event is that from anyway
warm quartz
Blizzard summit event *
dense plover
Well, considering the NDA probably lifts tomorrow, itās likely the cinematic will as well
Possibly along with a 8.2 release date
Theyāll want to get the cinematic out as soon as possible now
Probably really fucks with their plans
warm quartz
to be fair its not a lot of people who knows it ^^
5k most of them are classic viewers who dont know shit about bfa
warm quartz
Aye its prob gonna be around reddit soon
i like his reacton doh ''just boring bfa stuff'' š
dense plover
Heās gonna lose access forever
He might get banned from wow
Thatās the kind of shit where they cut you off completely
ionic terrace
oof
dense plover
Dude almost definitely signed an NDA
An NDA can have clauses like being banned from wow or even make you liable for a suit for profit lost
This dude could be in serious trouble if Blizz decides to litigate
They probably wonāt
But they probably will DMCA the shit out of every page with the video
meager zodiac
im glad we get, yet another, saurfang cinematic
the first 3 didnt pass the feelings
ionic terrace
sourfong
limber mural
who's the dude anyway
meager zodiac
how about a cinematic for those nelves we are crying about? perhaps for the new tyrande and her new form? no? more horde?
dense plover
You mean the ones who got an entire quest line and new customization options and an entire warfront!
Or do you mean the story quests in 8.2
They have to tell the saurfang story somehow
And they already have a cinematic rig for him
tropic trail
idk ridiculous how they spend millions of $ for 3 CGI Cinematics for Saurfang, who was also fault for the burning of Teldrassil, portraying him as a totaly hero while blaming everything on Sylvanas
languid yoke
they have a cinematic rig for doggo, give more doggo
tropic trail
its like you would praise Goebbels
dense plover
Itās not millions
Itās in house
The same people do the cgi cinematics for their other games
Saurfang is not at fault for the burning
tropic trail
ofc he is fault
dense plover
Sylvanas made that decision because of his actions yes
inner copper
Well he didnāt stop her
dense plover
But that doesnāt make it his fault
tropic trail
Twitter
dense plover
She still did it
inner copper
But he didnāt agree either
tropic trail
its also saurfangs fault as it is Sylvanas
even the book says it
I mean the short story
dense plover
It says he feels guilty
But that doesnāt make them both equally at fault
Neither are innocent
But saurfang wasnāt the one calling the shots
tropic trail
yea but he is the one who is fault for this shots
also even without the burning, he is still the one who agreed on the war and even planned it
tropic trail
dont act like a fucking hero ?
dense plover
When you join the horde, you follow the warchief or you get executed - what Baine did was executable but sylvanas didnāt kill him then
She could have
She would have had every right
Her actions are deplorable
But there are no checks and balances on the warchief
meager zodiac
i would love for a cgi alliance cinematic, focused around the alliance
and not around a sad hypocritical orc
meager zodiac
aparently
like even the alliance cgi cinematic was still about saurfang
he isnt even likable
smoky mural
time for the night elf's to forgive teld ,
time for the zandalari to forgive dzazaralor and rastakan
time for forsaken to fogive undercity and kill there queen and made to what they are and is even there flag icon
GoOd SToRy BllIz 
twilit coral
https://twitter.com/Glimar_wow/status/1128332603742932992 ouh mama cinematic!!!!
Twitter
dense plover
Late to the party
twilit coral
jajajajajaj i saw
smoky mural
and Sylvanas got done dirty by this expac.
tropic trail
Towelliee just confirmed with saying "tomorrow should come more informations about current WoW but already someone fucked it up"
zealous basalt
Someone is getting sued
warm quartz
F for Tipsout
gilded forge
@tropic trail did he mention it on his stream
uncut vault
gonna be hilarious if blizzard somehow manages to piss off all three groups in this conflict by pinning everything on Sylvanas and making the alliance all sing love and peace with the orcs who were completely fine with invading and killing all the night elves
tropic trail
@gilded forge yea like 1 min before he went offline
gilded forge
thanks
tropic trail
@uncut vault exactly, Im afraid thats what gonna happen
meager zodiac
its already gonna happen lol
zealous basalt
How did this gota leaked even?
smoky mural
the cinamatic @zealous basalt
smoky mural
what do you mean leaked then
zealous basalt
Like, was this a special thing on the Blizzard HQ?
...let me redo the question
Where did this thing was leaked from?
smoky mural
a streamer had images of that cinamatic and didn't care
while searching for classic images which he got from the creator summit
oak wraith
And (looking at the infodump on Classic today) I'm guessing we'll hear (and see) more about that from various sources, and I guess the NDA on that bit might well be lifted now. While (if I were Blizz) I'd want any 8.2+ stuff not released at the same time, if only so they're not competing with themselves in audience attention.
Ah, so possibly more info on non-Classic tomorrow.
uncut vault
Probably gonna get 8.2 release date later this week or next week
Mid June is looking likely
oak wraith
If I google for "world of warcraft classic" I get a LOAD of news items everywhere from 2-3 hours ago.
dense plover
I really still expect July 3rd
Otherwise they risk losing people to FFXIV shadowbringers
uncut vault
I expect the raid release then
dense plover
No way
Thereās a US holiday right after
Patch release so people can play without fucking up family weekends with the raid
uncut vault
fourth of july is not an off-work holiday
and is on a thursday, so that wouldnt matter
dense plover
Uh, what state are you in? Most places I know close on the 4th of July
uncut vault
California, so the best standard to apply blizzard to
dense plover
Iām in California too
uncut vault
places close early on the fourth, they dont close all day
and its certainly not a no-work day
dense plover
Everything except grocery stores and gas stations is closed most of the day in my city
uncut vault
but regardless, blizzard has never really cared about any holiday aside from christmas break before now
no real reason to start caring now
uncut vault
All the ones we meet seem to be male
ionic terrace
Yeah... hm
unborn glacier
@ionic terrace considering in the lore it's been stated their numbers are so low that it's impossible for their race to ever return, so they spend what time they have left fighting Azshara and her Naga, I'd say it's all males left
hasty elbow
hmm where is this in Nazjatar?
ionic terrace
In the bloodfin murloc area, there's a cave underwater that leads there
hasty elbow
i see, thx
runic verge
upper lantern
Gotta agree with that, unfortunately. Plus even the Shandris/Thalyssra questline doesn't seem too long
pulsar minnow
I don't know if this has been posted yet, but a new Saurfang cinematic was leaked, and it features Thrall
uncut vault
not really sure why you put the spoiler tag if you spoiled it in your comment anyways lol
pulsar minnow
I put the spoiler tag there because of the image itself
(As in posting it and spreading awareness over the leak may not be allowed, so I'm trying to limit how people see it)
night swift
If its too spoilery for a spoiler chat maybe it shouldnt be posted
Plus it aināt really ptr related
uncut vault
well there you go š
hasty elbow
I bet they will deployed it on Thursday.
royal orchid
smoky mural
i can't anymore
terse patrol
Moar Horde wank. But it was good I guess.
smoky mural
āI think she had her moment where we told some of her story and she got her revenge for the Night Elves. I donāt think weāre exploring her story too much more in Nazjatar though.ā Shani said.
Read more at https://www.mmorpg.com/world-of-warcraft/interviews/new-world-of-warcraft-82-info-tyrande-sylvanas-customization-oh-my-1000013638#mtd3rFvhULfSDM8A.99
terse patrol
RIP.
smoky mural
hahahahahahahahahahahaaha
unborn glacier
Sigh
It really looks like blizz is trying their hardest to make Sylvanas and the Forsaken out to be evil -.-
I was excited for this cinematic, but not after watching it. Really drives home the feeling blizz is playing things too safe.
terse patrol
Except they are lol.
lone marten
Thats cos they are š
terse patrol
That has never not been the case.
unborn glacier
:eyeroll:
terse patrol
Ok, what is morally good about Sylvanas?
unborn glacier
She neither good nor evil. She has always been pragmatic
terse patrol
Are you going to ignore the genocide she commited on the remaining humans in the Northern Eastern Kingdoms?
Using Nathanosā own nephew just to make Nathanos fuckable again?
Teldrassil?
terse patrol
Slaughtering Garithosā followers, probably refugees included, to secure her new kingdom?
Cool, I can end the conversation now, youāre just being edgy.
Pol Pot was just being pragmatic.
So was Mao.
Lol
unborn glacier
Here we go xD
terse patrol
||Daenarys yasss queen slay||
west relic
unborn glacier
Have had this argument before with another 'person'. I'm sorry that you can't operate within the universe of Warcraft. Real life is real life. WoW is WoW.
wise crest
dude
even within the wow universe shes fucked up
if what she was doing was good no one would rise against her to stop it
blizzard are gonna YEET HER OUT
ionic terrace
Did we know that worgen and goblin updates are coming with heritage
zealous basalt
Really like his father
ionic terrace
I forgot
wise crest
nope
zealous basalt
As an Alliance i can say that the addition of Thrall seems interesting
Although id like to see what powers he will wield now
smoky mural
but hey guys nelf got revenge āI think she had her moment where we told some of her story and she got her revenge for the Night Elves. I donāt think weāre exploring her story too much more in Nazjatar though.ā Shani said.
Read more at https://www.mmorpg.com/world-of-warcraft/interviews/new-world-of-warcraft-82-info-tyrande-sylvanas-customization-oh-my-1000013638#mtd3rFvhULfSDM8A.99
pulsar iris
that cutscene was in outland nagrand?
zealous basalt
Tho, I thought they were to pull an endgame there
With thrall cooking a soup and all
Makuta thats spam
smoky mural
i just can't stop laughing
zealous basalt
Thats good
smoky mural
she got revenage by killing 2 nonames
smoky mural
the warfronts are still on and they haven't won
zealous basalt
Dont be cynical
They are on and will go on forever because they are a game mechanic
But with what he said of nelves getting revenge it can be said and interpreted as the elves had a victory on Darkshore
tropic trail
@wise crest āI would tell Sylvanas fans that her story definitely isnāt over yet. We have a lot more to tell. Sheās not Garrosh 2.0. She has a lot more going on. Donāt want to spill anything, but there is a ton more coming for Sylvanasās story.ā
Read more at https://www.mmorpg.com/world-of-warcraft/interviews/new-world-of-warcraft-82-info-tyrande-sylvanas-customization-oh-my-1000013638#sYCWpKVSpPuqiwYe.99
told ya shes not gonna end in 8.3
pulsar iris
they have been saying this for a while now @tropic trail
terse patrol
They say the warfronts are being won by the Alliance canonically.
smoky mural
no that means nothing
zealous basalt
For someone with no reading skills, but i hope you do
terse patrol
A warfront vs the complete annexation of Ashenvale, Felwood, and the genocide of the Night Elves isnāt really vengeance.
They arenāt remotely applicable.
zealous basalt
They grow bored of elves
Probably they are going to delete 2 races from wow
Elves and undead
Night*
Make night elves npc only and add high elves as a replacement
terse patrol
Wonāt happen.
zealous basalt
While horde got ogres
Seems completely acceptable and with it you get rid of nuisances
Then you get rid of the other lesser races until only orcs and humans remains
The orcs get their race name changed to orks
And the humans become space raiders while Anduin becomes a god emperor
lone marten
and then you have 40k good joke lol
wise crest
@tropic trail they said they have more story to tell, not that she isnt gonna die. when voljin died they said he still has more story to tell
terse patrol
I hope they really donāt think that the warfront is proper vengeance. @wise crest
zealous basalt
Its blizzard
pulsar iris
but vol'jin returned as a spirt. i dont think sylvanas would ever return as a spirit
zealous basalt
They will leave it there
Probably they were focusing on doing alliance stuff as warfronts and raids
pulsar iris
also mak. what you said about nelves npcs and helves into alliance. a friend suggested this should have been done from the beggining
wise crest
and her corpse is annihilated
so sylvanas starts body hopping
possessing left and right
voldemort style
zealous basalt
That makes her more vulnerable to light
pulsar iris
i want to see the turn that they are promissing. sylvanas story wont be garrosh 2, horde story isnt going to be soo 2. i am waiting for they stop talking and make it happen
tropic trail
@wise crest thats right. So no matter what will happen, even if she dies, she will stay š
and probably comes back like Voljin
zealous basalt
...not understanding that if that is the casr
There wont be any forsaken or other means she would have for lead
She is just goinf to be another banshee and not the banshee queen
tropic trail
she will comeback as something like Hellya
zealous basalt
Dude
pulsar iris
no stop
tropic trail
so she wont be a banshee queen , mayber more like a banshee goddess?
zealous basalt
Forsaken dont grow like apples
Honestly
What are you smoking? Can share?
No, blizz wont turn her into that
No death is good
tropic trail
I know that the Forsaken just gonna die out by rotting without Sylvanas and the Valkyrs
pulsar iris
i dont know about that
tropic trail
well lore wise ofc, sure it wont happen
pulsar iris
i dont see they either doing that because of playable race
tropic trail
exactly
thats why they will just introduce something new
or just ignore that they are rotting
pulsar iris
probably ignore
tropic trail
yea
hasty elbow
āThose who are looking for even more customization for older races may have a while to wait.ā
sigh š„
wtb nelf black hair.
zealous basalt
Boo
hasty elbow
How about new spec instead? lul
wise crest
@tropic trail dude, i dont care, she can do whatever she wants if shes out of the horde xx
pulsar iris
can she be warchief of the horde if she's out of the horde? PogChamp
tropic trail
I never wanted her as the Warchief, but I want her to stay as the banshee queen of the forsaken
but it looks all like the forsaken will split
so she stays as the queen of them , just for her loyalist forsaken
languid yoke
zealous basalt
Moderfucker
pulsar iris
how does it look like all of them will split?
their "split" was the council, and that got taken care of
indigo laurel
Just to cite form another conversation I had: "If Blizzard were Marvel, I'd say 'yeah, okay. if you guys say you can bring this to a satisfyin conclusion, I'll give you the time to do it.' Sadly, this ist blizzard."
zealous basalt
Considering how many universes marvel had...
And how messy were some and how good were others, i am glad
pulsar iris
and how easy characters create new universes at marvel
zealous basalt
Now if you meant what happened in infinity war and endgame
Maybe you should say
"If blizzard was directed by the russo brothers"
indigo laurel
Yeah, in this context it was more refering to Marvel Studios. Neither my friend nor I read the comics š
And I think having this overall flowing project is more to the praise of Feige then of the russos, but that would probably get a bit offtopic š
meager zodiac
"its sylvannas patch"
she has 55 seconds of dialogue dtamined
how is this her patch?
zealous basalt
Who says that
meager zodiac
the interview abotu the story
indigo laurel
One of the designers in the interview heldenmaid linked
zealous basalt
Ah
meager zodiac
where they talk about tyrande, and say this patch is about azshara and sylvannas
zealous basalt
Huh
meager zodiac
the second that doesnt do anything
zealous basalt
I mean yana
meager zodiac
she sends nathanos and then... i guess 8.2.5 will be massive in story or?
uncut vault
Theyāre not showing it very well
indigo laurel
Well, you could argue that both fleets getting wrecked is part of Sylvannas plan as she sends the horde fleet out as bait for the alliance and that works out
indigo laurel
Yeah, I find Jaina a weird choice on mutiple levels. But I don't want to salt about it again. š
ionic terrace
@dense plover š
Also did anyone notice that they disabled (I think) the Nazjatar warmode pvp event?
tropic trail
@ionic terrace did you got Pathfinder? :P
ionic terrace
noo haha
mystic heart
don't do it
cuz wipe š
mystic heart
yeap
ionic terrace
or sometime after lol
tropic trail
you need to start your PTR pathfinder grind from 0 soonā¢
hasty elbow
wipe might be probably next week or after. I remember they said that they will announced it before the wipe happened.
mystic heart
dunno why ppl want classic beta
anyway this not go to live servers š
hasty elbow
i prefer next xpac beta if I will have a chance to got one haha.
upper remnant
On a side note they confirmed Gilnean and Goblin heritage armor today it is always nice to know
hasty elbow
agreed
agile token
Yup^
upper remnant
yes for 8.2.5
agile token
hasty elbow
^
unreal minnow
so PTR is off?
hasty elbow
yes
tropic trail
Seriously, no NE armor yet like come onš
The āwarfrontā armor doesnāt even count everyone can wear it. Blizz is just torturing everyone who wants to see half naked NEās stab people in the eyes.
oak wraith
Weren't they going to have a PTR reset and then more testing in the state the game will be in just after launch of 8.2 (i.e. with things in their initial state)? Once they've tested that we'll be closer to launch.
ionic terrace
Realmlist back, soon tm
hasty elbow
well there will be ptr reset but i guess it won't be this week since they said that they will post an announcement first before the reset.
ionic terrace
nice, servers are back but build isn't out yet lol
meager zodiac
what is unfinished?
adding more world content/
?
the story for the raid is already there
some of it its already voice lined
meager zodiac
that seems a basic scenario, shandris is in it per her voice files
ionic terrace
Yeah the core is there but the details aren't
meager zodiac
yeah, but for the actual content and meaty stuff
ionic terrace
imo anyway
meager zodiac
its basicaly it
its basicaly 2 weeks before the raid anyways
so they didnt have a lot of add
upper remnant
Maybe they are doing like the other time when they didn't push the new build until Thursday
ionic terrace
oh the realms are gone again
unreal minnow
still off?
upper remnant
They are online but incompatible ? Never saw this before
dense plover
Itās when servers are updated but client isnāt
upper remnant
Oh okay
ionic terrace
š
dense plover
theyre trying to get a build to go out
having problems
but they keep incrementing the number
so they are still planning on getting a build out
ionic terrace
I don't see any new builds on parrots site 
languid yoke
in other news, it's almost the 16th in Europe. Bye beta
ionic terrace
it's out bois
@dense plover
sorry for the pings btw, figured you would like to know lol
zealous basalt
what is
ionic terrace
new build
zealous basalt
o
ionic terrace
1.41 GB
upper remnant
What can it be, is it the medium size?
dense plover
Told you
whole cedar
rip character wipe
ionic terrace
really
whole cedar
yep.
ionic terrace
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
unreal minnow
Wipe š
whole cedar
glad we got a heads up!
ionic terrace
Lol
mighty wolf
So why theres no template character creation? š¤
inner copper
?
mighty wolf
"max level" characters
upper remnant
Nazjatar scenario is up
mystic heart
no music in this build?
upper remnant
Map is here too
dense plover
Oh they implemented the navigation system?
ionic terrace
looks like it
dense plover
@mighty wolf they havenāt had character templates for ptr ever. Thatās beta only. They have character import
They donāt want people using ptr as a free version of wow
mighty wolf
@dense plover they used it in MoP PTR, i remember it
mighty wolf
Okay 
tropic trail
I hope Velonaras quest is finally on the build
inner copper
which tidestallion?
inner copper
for gold?
inner copper
lol thats kinda creepy
forest sphinx
Is the PTR worth trying out for 8.2 still?
royal orchid
the crimson tidestallion cost: 4 cultist pinky finger, 2 pulsating blood stones, 3 overwhelingly alluring idols and 1 hungry herald's tentacle taco.. the first three all have a duration of 1 day
dense plover
yeah its part of a weird trading mob drop thing with murlocs around the zone and some kind of puzzle
chrome seal
caverns portal is up, seems we have actual bronze dragons beign of some actual use. I expected time walkers tbh so this is kinda cool
royal orchid
reminds me of that one lens trading thing in vash'ir for the hivemind
upper remnant
Wow resto shaman artefact
tropic trail
I will say ty when they finally kill off Thrall 
vivid harness
whoa the new cinematic when you go to nazjatar is leet i love the red x
wise crest
cinematic?
tropic trail
new cinematic?
chrome seal
new world boss? or was this already known?
daring dune
Yeagh, there was some info about second worldboss before
median monolith
chrome seal
thx
nope world map has nothing atm
amazing cinematic
truly outdone themselves this time
there is ship when you enter Nazjatar which crashes real time when you get closer, you hear a lot of screams, kinda cool
upper remnant
Am I the only one blocked after openong the portal?
Seems we are forced to do magni quest first
royal orchid
they removed the new combustion animation
royal orchid
yeah, but i'm not sure if that's the reason why they removed it, got good feedback on reddit, if i remember it correctly
still sad, that the new consecration animation for paladin didn't make it
uncut vault
Whatās new screen usually comes pretty late in the PTR cycle, so this is a good sign
dense plover
holy shit
you see a ship fall off the edge of tge tide wall
its awesome
cool, you meet one of the bosses during the intro
sweet
zealous basalt
CAN WE HAVE LEGENDARY PREVIEWS
dense plover
pretty much no changes to pathfinder part 2 btw
in fact, looks like they specifically separated it from the rep achievements so that it wouldnt require exalted
dense plover
fuck
thats like
major progression breaking
i guess we should expect another build soon-ish then
dense plover
WM?
zealous basalt
warmod
dense plover
weird
mystic heart
Anyway they don't fix sound problem in Nazjatar
dense plover
what sound problem?
slender musk
I cant rightclick my neck unlucky
mystic heart
In some places sound just off
terse patrol
Is there no broadcast text?
dense plover
looks like the new type of WQ might be in
azerite rewards still suck tho
maybe they scale? im at lvl 40 still
zealous basalt
peach
zealous basalt
leggos
dense plover
?
opening treasures count for the 120 tasks
anyone know how you start mechagon?
oh, i see - starting quest is the same
slender musk
They heavily increased the price for benthicc upgrade tokens
dense plover
They decreased the price of base benthic tho
And added them as WQ rewards
And increased the amount of manapearl drops
dark furnace
The music in the new cinematic is Nightsong, right?
But without the lyrics
In the beginning
smoky mural
@serene marsh the Lorthemar voice line have some lines missing that can be heard in the game
limber mural
@terse patrol the thrall one
terse patrol
Why use nightsong in an orc cinematic
unreal minnow
How i will know i got classic to try?
dark furnace
Idk, thats why I asked
It really sounds like instrumental Nightsong
I'm 99% sure it is Nightsong
mighty wolf
Is this not Nagrand?
dark furnace
The location is Nagrand, but the music I'm pretty sure is Nightsong
I've listened to it on Spotify like a hundred times and the part where they sing Queldorei is there
In the cinematic
It probably symbolizes Saurfangs grief and embarassment for what the Horde did in Darkshore
indigo laurel
To be honest, it probably symbolizes, that the sound designer for the vid thought it fit the atmosphere
dark furnace
Yeah
ionic terrace
What is this new Lor'themar voice
dense plover
I think itās the same voice actor but higher quality or a different style idk
ionic terrace
it's really high pitched lol
dense plover
Yeah I think it might be an issue with an audio effect or something. A lot of the voice files seem pitched up a bit
upper remnant
It is really nasal too
forest sphinx
I can't seem to turn off the tutorials on the PTR
unreal minnow
Same as i cannot see damage numbers
whole cedar
I am unable to progress in mechagon past the fishing quest
Schrƶdinger's Fishing: I have the profession and I don't at the same time 
uncut vault
Still cant use the heart forge, RIP
unborn glacier
^
indigo laurel
unborn glacier
ā š© š
uncut vault
wonder what the little maintenance is for
indigo laurel
thats actually pretty funny
tropic trail
Praise!
neat idol
Hello
an anyone tell me if Titan Residuum will be usefull on 8.2?
Should I spent it now or wait?
tropic trail
Like a good neighbor, statefarm is there
dull flame
where is nazjatar on azeroth map
like mechagon island is in kul tiras
but i dont see nazjatar anywhere
dull flame
oh
steel venture
Regardless, you're not going to be likely to see Nazjatar at a glance on the world map anyway?
It'll likely be inside of the Maelstrom, so you'll have to click that. Similarly to how you have to click it to get a good closeup of Kezan and the Lost Isles.
Ooohoo man.
I can't wait for how many people are going to be upset about the hunter deadzone / the requirements for ammo though.
dull flame
i tought it would be more like vashjir
oak wraith
I'm assuming that hunter comment is about Classic? š
plain vigil
Damn so mechagnomes are pretty much confirmed
I love when I call things and everyone tells you off
uncut vault
unborn glacier
And just like that, I stole your meme
tropic trail
same, my meme now
sudden oak
even if its a low quality bait it is a high quality meme
lone gale
Has there been any new non feast buff food on the PTR, that would beat out Blood Sausage?
smoky mural
night swift
Put that down right now!
hollow granite
But that think back where it came from or so help me
smoky mural
wut
dark prairie
Is he...a man (as in human) now? because his skin doesn't look pale anymore
smoky mural
do you mean put
jade basalt
So I'm not 100% sure about this as it wasn't explicit but from a friend at Blizzard I think there may be a CGI cinematics in the works (like the Saurfang ones), but featuring Azshara.
uncut vault
In the works, or finished?
Cause if itās in the works, kinda confirms she doesnāt die at the end of the raid
tropic trail
how you know? in the works doesnt mean that they starting from 0
smoky mural
ok then
jade basalt
Not 100% sure, and it's more of a "maybe". Don't get super hyped (yet) š
ionic terrace
Nathanos pls
candid coral
With the azshara stuff out on ptr has anyone figured out what Gift of N'Zoth is used for?
dense plover
so far, i dont think so
mostly because it seems to be wiped on character copy
specifically the buff
if you had a character who hadnt done it yet, maybe
ionic terrace
nice
ionic terrace
Got it from one of those hidden chests so
might be a bit hard to find them at first lol
night swift
I never saw the argus ones, didnt even know they existed for the longest time
tranquil steeple
i got one near the end of legion.. and only one
even guildies were shocked/confused about it
going "what? where did you get that?" etc
dark furnace
I didnt know they existed until now
dense plover
they added a way to store spare parts
its lossless, so theres no reason not to
also a lot of the tinkering recipes now use the crates instead of hundreds of spare parts
tranquil steeple
do the crates also stack
dense plover
yes
so each crate is 250 - one stack
and i assume they stack to 250
so this fixes the biggest problem with scrap
dense plover
theres an npc that allows you to view the azshara warbringers cinematic at the location of the cinematic
those hidden chests can give pets
i just got a Sandclaw Nestseeker
dense plover
its a mixed bag
sometimes its garbage
other times loot
murloc items can be found in them
war resources
prismatic mana pearls
oooo - completing the quest to unlock the rune lock unlocks world quests related to rune locks in nazjatar
so it seems youll unlock new types of WQs as you quest
sometimes you get another scrying stone
and i got a "Bag of Who-Knows-What"
think its another murloc item
it has a 1 day duration
sometimes it reveals a boss
boss called Sandcastle
which dropped a quest item
Brinestone Pickaxe
forest sphinx
So far the story within 8.2 is really well done. A bit more thought out than what was in 8.1 tbh. It also feels like they are going for a new and fresh approach with the end game to this expansion.
night swift
Iām just glad weāre getting like actual content
8.1ās biggest problem for me was there was no new zone to explore
Just more stuff on current zones that we explored for months
forest sphinx
My biggest problem with 8.1, even 8.0 at launch, was the content gate. I don't know if you guys will agree but the system they had in place in order to progress the story of what was happening in BfA was a path that should've not been taken. While others may disagree and saying that the reputation grind wasn't that bad, which I can agree it's not, but content should not be hidden behind reputation. Like, make the story unlock as events or something similar. Does that make any sense?
dense plover
no
it doesnt
theres always been a gate of some kind
ALWAYS
this is the least there has ever been
apparently literally no one remembers suramar
that wasnt only rep gated
it was timegated too
broken shore
forest sphinx
Now that I remember. Legion right?
dense plover
10 weeks of timegating
forest sphinx
I prefer the timegating vs the repgating
dense plover
theres always been some form of gating
i dont
you can rush repgating
you can push it if you try
time gating means that you are just done until next week
that sucks
because then you have nothing
forest sphinx
I'll give you that and I can also say that since coming back to the game, I'm finding that getting reputation isn't that bad as I thought. It's just patience vs rushing like you said. With 8.2, I don't get that feeling of gated content. I feel like it's there so far. Maybe it's just me
dense plover
the content isnt rep gated
but flying is
and its likely parts of the war campaign will be
parts of mechagon definitely will be
but mechagon will still be fun
forest sphinx
Yeah, that's what pushed me away at first but I'm willing to swallow the pill and try to get it
dense plover
the content isnt locked - just some story stuff
forest sphinx
Oh god yes, Mechagon will be a blast. Is that on the PTR?
dense plover
thats how the game has to work
yes
its a bit meh knowing your progression wont last
because a lot of the viability of it relies on earning the rewards
which dont really matter on a test server
but it is fun
forest sphinx
Right. Point of the test server is to test the content out. Like when I was on earlier going through the quest line for Nazjatar, I had to report the bugs I went through ie freeing the slave workers without credit
dense plover
theres a LOT of bugs
good thing is the next build should come soonish
and more should be fixed
theyre also still adding content and touching up the zones for both
forest sphinx
Which is nice
I've always enjoyed it when a developer like Blizzard listens to the community
dense plover
blizzard is like 80/20 ignore/listen
forest sphinx
They used to listen a lot more back when TankSpot was around. That's when Zarhym, Bashiok and others were paying attention and taking the game seriously.
smoky mural
Anything new
forest sphinx
In?
velvet wind
New York, New Jersey, New Hampshire, New Zealand, New Mexico, 13th letter in the Greek alphabet
outer hinge
I laughed at that alot more then i should have
dense plover
i love the pieces of gear covered in sea life
leather benthic shoulders have like shellfish and tiny anemones and theyre animated lightly
its awesome
worldly storm
Hunters still fun?