i guarantee he cant say
#beta-ptr-spoilers
tropic trail
well but he will, which means he got an "OK" from blizz
or because blizz is playing with us
and gave him wrong informations or maybe they even working together
dense plover
or he wont
tropic trail
just to make that plot twist moment more "wooah" didnt suspected that"
tropic trail
well he said it already that he will reveal it. even on his stream yesterday
dense plover
¯_(ツ)_/¯
tropic trail
yea that is basically a theory
as I said, its not like its 100% confirmed
he thinks he knows who it is because of that dungeon journal and "something" he saw on a whiteboard
if its true
dense plover
no way they leave the final boss on a whiteboard
ionic terrace
I just want Tuesday
tropic trail
I have no idea man, I just telling you what T&E said on his Video
dense plover
i think he is either mistaken or wrong
ionic terrace
I hope that bodyguard system is still in, they didn’t mention it did they
dense plover
yes they did
ionic terrace
Oh
dense plover
there are 3 champions for each faction
ionic terrace
Yee
tropic trail
and he didnt said that on the whioteboard was the final boss written down
ionic terrace
Nice!
tropic trail
he said just, he saw something what he shouldnt have seen
on that whiteboard. I dont remember it exactly
just watch his latest video
dark furnace
Who are the champions though?
Faction leaders?
New npcs from Nazjatar?
My first thought was Lor Themar and Nathanos but I doubt it
meager zodiac
we know jaina is going to lead it, the 3 fish body guards
and whoever is in the boat, if its going to be the same crew we assemble the in the kultiran quest
dark furnace
I meant like the bodyguards
I doubt Blizzard would give huge lore characters as bodyguards to the player
dense plover
they arent
theyre members of the new rep
so ankoan for alliance
gilbin, sea giants, and mokrura for horde
terse patrol
Can’t wait to see the Ankoan models.
unborn glacier
We saw them at Blizzcon
unborn glacier
Thats very clearly a model
dense plover
no it isnt
look at the swords
and the legs
and the shading doesnt match the actual models next to it
tropic trail
looks like everyone of them is a model except that naga dude
tulip sun
Deep sea jinyu
Which is obviously concept art
And Taliesin simply has a good theory
As he always does
terse patrol
I hope Ankoan have glowy bits
uncut vault
I do hope alliance have more than just three ankoan combat allies
will be a bit dull having them all look the same lol
dense plover
i doubt they would have 3 ankoan
terse patrol
I do hope the Ankoan are serious and interesting like the Sethrak.
tropic trail
ty Im watching already
RIP the Theory that Azshara is working against Nzoth
she frees him at the end of the raid
zealous basalt
That was a stupid theory...
tropic trail
and RIP that wannabe "leak" from MMOC
dense plover
i feel like thats bullshit
just because they said it would be a suprise
and that is the least suprising thing
also
if nzoth is 8.3
im gonna be so sad
because then i have no clue what 9.0 is
zealous basalt
i mean
there was a sneak peek at the end of the 8.2 thing in blizzcon
or a tease
terse patrol
Nzoth being the final boss would be a big let down
dense plover
i would be okay with it if we lose
and then the next expac are the consequences of losing
dense plover
i feel like they tested the waters with the losing concept
but it would be unique and interesting if they went all out
"The heroes of azeroth have never truly lost, until now"
baseline interesting expac premise
and it allows for unique enemy stuff
tropic trail
i hope Nzoth isnt the last boss of BFA..
tropic trail
Tbh we need to lose
I’d be really sad if we won. Like all the other times. It’s just “expected” lol.
Use I just feel like it would be a more interesting story then just winning lol
tropic trail
yeah
runic verge
Deep sea jinyu
Which is obviously concept art
And Taliesin simply has a good theory```
a theory on ankoan?No. They were arguing over what he was saying about the final boss
He simply said he had a good guess or theory
Nothing confirmed
tropic trail
confirmed is atleast that Azshara will free Nzoth from his prison/chains
but Im curious if this is the "twist" they are talking about. that twist that noone expects...
thats basically what everyone was expecting
dense plover
no
thats not confirmed
thats a theory
azshara might be trying to do it
but no way would the raid journal say "azshara has released nzoth"
that would defeat the whole purpose of defeating azshara
tulip sun
Is there a small chance the ptr could be today? v.v
tropic trail
actually youre right peach, but I think thats most likely whats gonna happen
hollow blaze
The thing I'm the most curious/confused about is, if azshara had the toggle for nzoth in her palace... why didn't she toggle it earlier
why did we have to go there for her to think it'd be worth
tropic trail
who knows. I think Nzoth need something
5 torches
1 of them is Sylvanas and the blade
and the PC
for what ever reason. Maybe Azshara just dont want to release him until its necessary
jade basalt
So it seems Mechagon is the opposite of Nazjatar, Alliance goes there first and Horde follows
dense plover
because once nzoth is free, he doesnt need azshara
and she likes being in charge
but she doesnt like losing
ptr is probably tomorrow
but yes, it could happen today
who knows
all we know is this week
¯_(ツ)_/¯
tropic trail
Im gonna be mad if they dont release the PTR tomorrow 😭
jade basalt
I wouldnt' be surprised if it's Thursday, since Crucible of Storms opens Tuesday and they may not want to have a new raid and PTR launch on the same night. But maybe!
tropic trail
I kinda think too they gonna released it on Thursday
mystic heart
i think it's today 😄
pulsar iris
if tali is correct, it might be today as he said in his video a few times that the video could be out after ptr was released
dense plover
Well muffinus is already tweeting and it’s very early
jade basalt
Did Taliesin ever release his video btw? Wasnt it meant for Sunday?
ionic terrace
https://twitter.com/annafunk/status/1117573297175011328 lmao I love this
terse patrol
I hope it’s today.
Waiting for Thursday would be hell
@jade basalt They released the video but...
Tbh, it isn’t worth watching.
It’s the most obvious of obvious things, though tbh Blizzard probably had a twist planned.
(If not, I’m really not going to enjoy a N’zoth raid.)
At least until next expac.
imo this SHOULD be a faction war expac setting up an Old God expac.
So, there should be a final Horde/Alliance showdown.
Or a fight with Sylvanas.
Siege of Stormwind pls
unborn glacier
Ooooh, that sounds awesome
Not a fight with Sylvanas, but a siege of Stormwind
Which leaves us both weak and then Nzoth arises
Boom, Old God xpac
Black Empire reborn
hollow blaze
modern azerite manufacturing technique allows the transformation of kaldorei ashes into synthetic diamonds
unborn glacier
Lmao
hollow blaze
unborn glacier
I want this to happen now
sudden oak
tulip sun
Pray for it to drop today xD
mystic heart
terse patrol
@mystic heart Think we’re imminent?
mystic heart
idk but yesterday this link is worked
tulip sun
O.o
ionic terrace
where's mrpeach
ionic terrace
keeping an eye on ptr
ionic terrace
Yea
tulip sun
Your making me hopeful just to make me come crashing down later e.e
mystic heart
@tulip sun It's not us
Blame Blizzard 😄
ionic terrace
fwiw, if it follows the same pattern of forum names it should be https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/c/in-development/rise-azshara-ptr-general
Don't get excited because that links to a 403 error btw, everything like that does lol
tropic trail
As well it should. Users should not be trying to sniff out spoilers. Blizzard will release data at an appropriate rate. They know the industry. 😃
tulip sun
At the very least hopefully tomorrow
tropic trail
PTR servers restarting?
ionic terrace
yea
tropic trail
11/10 Jeremy is following this discord chat and thought its a cool troll if he just for fun restart the PTR servers
modern axle
what server was that Padwarle?
upper remnant
does a restart mean anything?
ionic terrace
Anasterian
modern axle
cheers! thats cool, maybe we'll get a build tonight then
ionic terrace
Idk, could mean something
dense plover
its not a shutdown tho
final vault
tropic trail
jinxed
final vault
"Restart" is just a blanket term for it going down I believe
terse patrol
my pp is the big pp now
outer hinge
time to nap until the datamining starts in that case eheh
unborn glacier
Lol Honk
ionic terrace
Looks like it was a shutdown as the realm list is down too 😛
tropic trail
yup no realm list
final vault
😦
tropic trail
servers are up again
pliant chasm
😢
terse patrol
REEE
dark furnace
Sad gnome hours
tulip sun
Fml
terse patrol
Wonder if Mekkatorque will become the new king of Mechagon.
unborn glacier
I bet the junker gnomes become an allied race and in 9.0 we find out they've helped the Gnomes rebuild Gnomeragon, and gnomeragon is finally the Gnome home city (in game)
dark furnace
Yeah and I feel like the Alliance will get Junker Gnomes, Ankoan and perhaps another new race from 8.3
While Horde gets Vulpera, Sethrak and another new race
unborn glacier
They'll likely only give us one more allied race this xpac
dark furnace
Yeah but in the beginning of the next one
unborn glacier
Likely Junker Gnomes and Vulpera
dark furnace
Like how they gave us 2 if you pre-ordered BfA
unborn glacier
Sethrak won't be a horde race
dark furnace
Yeah, I know
But I doubt they'll give Horde two new Goblin skeletons with Gilblins and Vulpera
dark furnace
But Ankoan seems like a really cool Allied Race for the Alliance
We'll see in the PTR if they are likely or not
dusty agate
Hello guys please don't mind the noob question but is the PTR opening on Tuesday or just sometime this week?
unborn glacier
@dark furnace Lorewise, it wouldn't make sense. From what we know of them, their numbers are so low they'll never be able to repopulate, so they spend the remainder of their lives fighting the Naga
dark furnace
Ah, ok
dusty agate
Okay thank you:)
sullen dawn
Is there a standard time of week for fresh ptrs historically? I know build updates come at any time in the week but for the first release, has there be some sort of pattern ?
tropic trail
Toby, I would imagine there are conspiracy theories to the nth degree on "patterns". I, personally, never had a problem with Soon™. Anything beyond that, from the outside, should be just guesswork. (edited addition) Of course, there could also be a pattern that is widely known and I'm just in the dark about. I don't really tend to do PTR-type stuff on a frequent basis. Not my area. 😃
sullen dawn
Thanks! Yeh I didn't expect some sort of formula calculating potential go live times or anything. Maybe more along the lines of 'typically ptrs go up on a Tuesday'. I am asking out of impatience more than anything else though hah
dark furnace
At least Wowheads articles datamine things always come out on Tuesdays
So I just assumed that was the patterns
dense plover
generally, the earliest build is 11am PST
latest is 5-6pm PST
but those trends have been broken
foggy abyss
Oh PTR update is to be expected ?
foggy abyss
Posted earlier
foggy abyss
Yikes
ionic terrace
tbh i'm thinking tomorrow or thurs now
pliant chasm
Thats what I was thinking too but hoping for today lol
dense plover
new vendor build
ionic terrace
uncut vault
first vendor build was for the testing at the summit, Id wager then
dense plover
seems possible
this has to be for the release
which means either today or tomorrow hopefully
modern axle
let's hope 😄
kinda hope it's tonight, but tommorrow seems more likely now tbh, though I thought they'd hold off from tommorrow due to raid release
dense plover
tomorrow is more likely, but there is enough time left
uncut vault
Im curious if it will be mechagon only, like at the summit
would be nice if they started testing things in segments
instead of just "as we complete it, throw it in a build"
ionic terrace
is peach Drorith
dense plover
i wouldnt be suprised if we get both if they are in fact planning on having both open at the same time
it would be a good time to test
and no
im not
uncut vault
while waiting at the mechagon door, I got the perfect description of my emotions as I wait
uncut vault
I wish I could submit feedback for feedback submission, lol
I feel like the "confused" option doesnt really have a use, there should just be a "bug/issue" box, or a feedback box
cause sometimes, things work fine, but just arent fun or very well done
ionic terrace
Kinda weird they put it in general discussion tho
I guess cause ptr forums aren't up just yet
dense plover
its possible it could be today
why have that up today if we get ptr tomorrow?
why not post it tomorrow?
also
this change is great
means we can finally report specific items or npcs or achieves
dense plover
probably tomorrow tho
modern axle
Thats a really good feature/update
dense plover
at least we wont have to wait until next week
modern axle
For sending feedback
dense plover
ive been sick all day and i woke up at 640am because of thunder
it sounded like a building collapsing
uncut vault
we're getting it some time this week, so Im happy
uncut vault
its not gonna be another tease then waiting a weekend for more teases
honestly, Im more hyped for the datamining of the first build than the playable build itself
I wanna see some of the legendary azerite effects
dense plover
i just want to try out the WQs
tropic trail
I just want them to let me mog no Already
dense plover
i want it to be more enganging
uncut vault
I hope theyre upgrades of the effect, and not "the effect, but with azerite blue and yellow"
tropic trail
I want to try it out but I don’t want to spoil it for myself lol
tulip sun
I want story
Tomorrow will be torture knowing it is so close and not havin it yet
I won't be able to focusss
tropic trail
I can’t wait for the videos to come out
Same content in 35675 videos lol
Isn't that the truth?
low oracle
PTR up yet?
inner copper
I’m guessing no since there isn’t a spam party here
sullen dawn
Soon tm:(
Today would be awesome though. Do we think there's gonna be a cinematic for the cos raid ending?
unborn glacier
Lol
dense plover
Cutscenes generally aren’t unlocked for the ptr
Also, no
There isn’t one in the files
ionic terrace
Yesterday
hasty elbow
There used to be separate 8.1.5 forum apart from Tide of Vengeances forum and they are gone now.
oh
ionic terrace
Yeah 😛
hasty elbow
pog and waiting for any ptr activity.
ionic terrace
It's wayyyy too early
meager zodiac
the raid opens today, but the people taking care of the ptr arent the team taking care of whatever might happen in this new raid
shell arch
I doubt they release ptr same time as raid, imo thursday is the soonest
vestal wing
they'll enable it once they are ready
meager zodiac
Why would the raid interfere? It’s not like it’s the same people
Or the same servers or the same content
tulip sun
I don't think they would've set up so much yesterday if it is releasing thursday....
dense plover
^what khamnin said
They sent or a vendor build
Out
And they took down some of the forums
modern axle
Also posted the PTR bug/feedback blog update
sullen dawn
hypey hype hype
sullen dawn
Checked previous ptr dates. 7.2 was a thursday, 7.3 was a wednesday, 8.1 was a thursday
sullen dawn
alrighty!
languid yoke
(also 7.2.5, 7.3.2/5 and 8.1.5 exist as well)
sullen dawn
sure i was just looking at major patches
dense plover
tuesday is the most common build day. it isnt the most common first build day, but thats usually because they are doing other stuff
in this case they have clearly been prepping to release it
and the fact that we got a vendor build yesterday is solid evidence
sullen dawn
hope you're right 😄
languid yoke
wasn't there a vendor build a few weeks ago, too?
dense plover
yes, right before the event for streamers
ivory meadow
modern axle
ptr dropped i think
ionic terrace
????
tropic trail
If I may? Perhaps the uh text in the #latest-news-old could be slightly censored for the (minor) spoiler involving the Dagger? Idk. Maybe I'm just extra sensitive on some spoiler'ish stuff. 😃 Eh not really a big deal. Never mind. 😃
terse patrol
We got confirmation? @modern axle
tropic trail
(us) BuildConfig: 82b67d2 → eb47008
(us) CDNConfig: 6517dce → a08a0a7
(us) BuildId: 29981 → 30080!
(us) VersionsName: 8.1.5.29981 → 8.2.0.30080!
ionic terrace
Yeere
dense plover
YAY
sullen dawn
oh fffff
tropic trail
ok bois do your work and data mine 😮
terse patrol
crack whip
tropic trail
It’s okay the update it there but you can’t login to see it lmfao
dense plover
thats normal
probably gonna be an hour
waiting for te build to upload so I can start looking through the files
some music is probably in this build
ionic terrace
tulip sun
Ph my
dense plover
tool is apparently a few hours from stuff
i cant do anything outside of doing stuff ingame once servers go up
ionic terrace
That’s better then looking at the files imo lol
tropic trail
find some war campaign quests 😮
dense plover
well right now
we cant do anything
servers are still down
that could continue for a while
im still downloading anyway
tropic trail
fuck -.-
dense plover
someone ping me when servers go up
tulip sun
What does that mean
dense plover
that means we are just stuck with strings of ids for files
ionic terrace
oof
dense plover
we can
gonna take a while
they changed internal stuff like with every major patch
we can get mp3 names
but like if there was a model called nzoth_statue
it would just have the data string now
ionic terrace
Lol, I think they broke the menu
dense plover
apparently it works in windowed
ionic terrace
ooh
dense plover
servers arent up tho
tropic trail
anyone else stuck at 50%?
tulip sun
There's a lot being added
tropic trail
but can the dataminers already datamine or do they need to wait for servers coming on?
dense plover
"A few minutes ago, we made the Rise of Azshara PTR available for download and install. This is so that initial testers will be completely ready to log in when the test realms are made public.
We are not at that point yet, and we don’t know how long it’s going to take to complete our checks and configuration. It looks like at least a few hours.
We’ll post here confirming when the PTR is playable and the PTR discussion subforums are open."
for anyone that cant read
datamining is going to take a while
lots of backend changes
first models might start coming in after an hour, maybe more
diff checking probably is several hours away
storm marsh
Im surprised the download is already available. Usually its around 2 AM CET
tropic trail
Blizzard is on top of their game! 😃
dense plover
some people have slow/limited internet
they really want this ptr to be smooth b/c its good PR
storm marsh
I dont remember this kind of dedication from previous expansions
tulip sun
I gotta few hours at work still
I suppose that's good so I am not waiting with nothing to do
strange falcon
wee ptr
storm marsh
Im refreshing wowhead's pages
outer hinge
im not oing to play ptr but im excited to read all the stuff here 😄
tropic trail
Probably no datamining on wowhead (edited - I mis-spoke) yet, between backend changes and rate of data release?
dense plover
mostly just backend changes
nothing to look at because cracking open the files and then processing them requires code changes
its being worked on
but its gonna take time
tropic trail
Ah. Cool stuff. If I were in the field, I would offer myself up as a contributor or whatever, but I just play games. I have (very limited) coding experience (mostly the Wc3 World Editor GUI with a few one-shot lines of JASS for leaks) but no real "certification" or whatever lol.
dense plover
even if you did
people arent exactly collaborating
they get their code bases up
then people use that to crack files
tropic trail
Oh. Wasn't aware it was done that way. I guess I jumped to conclusions. 😃
tropic trail
Ok. That was unintentional, but I suddenly like it. It's like a large Eye with a symbol of infinity in the middle (if rotated 90 degrees), from a certain point of view. I doth dub it, "N'zoth's 8th eye upon the vast infinity of the universe!"
crimson arrow
that's an 8 ball
uncut vault
bit sad about the file name change, was always fun seeing what the internal name is
plus when we got icons, it usually tipped us off on what theyre for
tropic trail
Yes, I know. It was one of the results when i typed : followed by an 8 as an Emote. I just went with it. I try not to spam emotes like doing an 8.2 all via Emotes. I've had some people complain about that, so I limit my Reaction/Emote usage, as best I can. 😃
dense plover
well some stuff can still be named
whats likely going to happen is manual naming
it wont be the name blizz uses
but it will reference that kind of stuff
uncut vault
yeah, thats what sucks
cause wowhead already does that a lot in their posts, and a lot of the time theyre not accurate
vs when you go to mmo champ, they have the direct file name in the image
dense plover
it was expected, and mp3 stuff should still be good, and even without names there should still be references to locations and stuff
stiven and marl are planning to work together on a set format
so it should be consistent hopefully
tropic trail
Nice, nice. Any word on why Blizzard suddenly changed that stuff? Maybe it was in the Article, but I haven't read it yet. Just curious. Does that happen often?
tropic trail
That, I can support 100%.
dense plover
having every single file have a string of numbers and a long text string takes up space
getting rid of the text string shrinks stuff
tropic trail
Smart. Cut down on excess data.
dense plover
and it shrinks the stuff referencing it too
and it also should slightly speed up load times
maybe
tropic trail
Kind of reminds me of what Warcraft 3 Map Makers did back in the day with Models. Something about "squishing" them? Idk. I never really did the model stuff. I found the Coding of Triggers in the GUI somewhat engaging, however.
glacial ore
so I'm curious to know, what tools does sites like wowhead use to datamine the PTR? Are these like trade-secret tools or generic tools that folks can find on the interwebs?
dense plover
cascexplorer
mystic heart
wowhead using his own stuff
dense plover
which is totally busted right now
mystic heart
now all tools are broken 😄
terse patrol
Blizzard trollin’ us’
dense plover
but its going to take a while until the tools are mostly equivalent
no
this is standard for new builds
always breaks stuff
(big new builds)
dense plover
i forgot how weird ren and stimpy was
ionic terrace
lmao
dense plover
90s/2000s cartoons were fucking weird
cold rose
But great
uncut vault
apparently the end whisper from nzoth changes based on faction
Horde: The fall of night reveals her true face. She will bring only ruin.
Alliance: The fall of night reveals her true face. She will show you the way.
tropic trail
id say servers might go up in about 2 - 3hrs
terse patrol
tropic trail
@uncut vault I really thought that this "She will bring only ruin" was a Tyrande thing. but now its confirmed its Sylvanas , what a dogshit...
dense plover
especially with the tweet from the server dev
tropic trail
Ahh so in about 1hr?
dense plover
no it isnt
with the whole guide the way thing?
i bet its something else
1-2 hours
unborn glacier
^
uncut vault
Id say that confirms its not sylvanas
dense plover
^
uncut vault
and leans towards tyrande
dense plover
^
terse patrol
Nah, it could mean she (Tyrande) will bring ruin to the Horde. And that Tyrande will show the Alliance the way.
unborn glacier
^
tropic trail
really?
uncut vault
because tyrande would guide the way for the Alliance
tropic trail
how you think so?
willow heart
are the ptr servers down for anyone else
terse patrol
They may be setting Tyrande up to become the new head of the Alliance.
uncut vault
"bring only ruin" for horde, because tyrande hates the horde, "guide the way" for alliance, because shes an alliance faction leader
tropic trail
just imagine Tyrande being the last boss of BFA
unborn glacier
Lol
tropic trail
but even Baine was quotes "you bring only ruin for the horde"
to sylvanas
like 2 hints already now
terse patrol
Could be a red herring.
dense plover
@willow heart #latest-news-old
uncut vault
inb4 its jaina
dense plover
with the same terms
tropic trail
It's kind of a brain teaser, eh?
willow heart
thanks
dense plover
its a way to connect two characters indirectly
that might be what is going on here
connecting tyrande and sylvanas and maybe showcasing some of their differences
uncut vault
theyve been intentionally using "she" in the old god whispers, because we have a lot of female characters that can be applied
unborn glacier
Or it could be a red herring
tropic trail
I dont know, I think its a simple thing like it was with teldrassil
I think its just sylvanas
dense plover
i dont think so
unborn glacier
That's like, your opinion man
dense plover
thats usually not the case with voice lines
unborn glacier
^
dense plover
not exactly
its just similar to the ilgynoth stuff
we are just NOW getting to the 5 keys thing
everyone thought it was the pillars of creation
but its not
terse patrol
Something tells me though that the Warbringers trailers told us the raid bosses for BFA.
tropic trail
but this quote here
When you pick up the quest, you also get another whisper from N'zoth.
N'zoth whispers: The fall of night reveals her true face. She will bring only ruin.
unborn glacier
Remember the quotes from Legion about when the shattered mask hangs above your hearth and your thrones run red with betrayal?
I member
dense plover
yeah
tropic trail
it only is for the horde site
tropic trail
the alliance dont have the same quote?
dense plover
but its similar
tropic trail
rly? where? I cant see it on wowhead
unborn glacier
That is the Alliance quote
dense plover
weve literally been talking about this
uncut vault
I said that wowhead doesnt have it
dense plover
"bring only ruin" for horde, because tyrande hates the horde, "guide the way" for alliance, because shes an alliance faction leader
uncut vault
Horde: The fall of night reveals her true face. She will bring only ruin.
Alliance: The fall of night reveals her true face. She will show you the way.
uncut vault
Sylvanas isnt gonna be showingthe way to the alliance, lol
dense plover
reading comprehension man
tropic trail
It's not up on wowhead yet, @tropic trail , if I'm understanding it correctly?
aaah ok
so they just didnt add that quote there
jesus
unborn glacier
Varimathras: So, your Alliance still endures. Longer than I expected, though she has already planted the seeds of its downfall. She is patient, that one.
Varimathras: When your thrones run red with betrayal... when your holy places burn and the shattered mask hangs above your hearth... only then you will know. And it will be too late.
Varimathras: It matters not. You are blind to the true darkness closing in around you.
These make more sense now, in regards to Tyrande
tropic trail
I have no desire to try and steal any credit here. I just think this is an interesting process. Never seen things from this perspective b4. 😃
tropic trail
nice
dense plover
give it 10-15 min
hopefully
im kind of guessing
and wwowheads first stuff is up
thx @ancient forge
small ptr update
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oh finally something from 8.2
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probably a fix for menu bug
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You think the Veri quotes refer to Tyrande, Peach? In context on those new Nzoth quotes, I think it's very likely
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"How to Ptrain Your Pterrordax Help Kua'fon earn his wings by completing the following quest. "
flying kuafon
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"Siege of Orgrimmar - Coup Scenario
The Maelstrom - Heart of Azeroth
Chamber of Heart - Repaired
The Eye of Eternity - HoA Scenario"
coup scenario
o_0
"Karazhan Catacombs - HoA Scenario"
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i mean
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EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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serious HoA stuff
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Siege of Orgrimmar is the war campaign thing for Baine right?
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😄
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Yes, since it looks like baines being held in the underhold
oh, that is not where i expected mechagon
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me neither lol
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figured it would be south of tiragarde, like the maps in the harbormasters office
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didnt expect it there
but there was an island on the big map
so that makes some sense
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wonder who Bondo is
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MMO-C 
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looks smaller than Timeless Isle..but its not..lol
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ah
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I'm stoked for the karazhan catacombs
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ionic terrace
oh no
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unborn glacier
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Wait a minute. Some of these areas don't look new to me. Or am I misreading something?
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These scenarios are likely the new wounds we have to seal
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i see dat gnomer cape
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thta baby naga icon
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female gilblins
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ok they look cool
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look like angler fish jinyu
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^
royal orchid
sharkraymount 😮
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I love em already, but cmon blizz
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NEW Fabious
He emerges from the water, fins swaying lazily in the breeze, sun-kissed scales glittering. He is... Fabious.
PH
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they look so cool
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NEW Child of Torcali
This daughter of the great direhorn loa, Torcali, never lost faith that her keeper would help her grow to her full potential.
Quest: Wander Not Alone
Zone: Zuldazar
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Fabious lmao
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NEW Xiwyllag ATV
It was said that this invention was modeled after the likeness of a very wealthy goblin. Although others don't really see the resemblance.
Profession: Blacksmithing & Engineering
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50k for the new gryphons..
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NEW Baine Scenario (Alliance)
Description: Save Baine Bloodhoof from being executed.
Difficulty: 5-player Normal Scenario
OrderIndex: 10
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So Ankoan and Unshackled and Rustbolt Resistance are the paragon factions
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fish goblins what ever
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aww yissss, the recolored flight path gryphons will be 5k gold from the faction ambassadors.
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wtf
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"Have you forgotten the purge of Dalaran, murderer? Today, the Sunreavers will be avenged."
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alliance only? oof
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probably not
NEW Mechagon Peacekeeper
Keeps the peace by turning you into pieces.
Drop: Mechagon Dungeon
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what do snapdragons look like?
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this might be the horde version of the scenario
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@inner copper the snap dragon is one of the mounts that we were able to see on Thursday's live stream if im not wrong
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although there's also a "Baine Scenario (Normal)" listed a bit under
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one if you sided with baine
and one if you didnt
saurfang, not baine
seems thrall might show up too
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is nobody else excited about the flight path gryphons as mounts?
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oh they got rid of the ToV forums now too
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Memento of the Dark Rangers
Description: Old hatred take a new form within the Scarlet Halls.
Difficulty: 1-player Normal Scenario
OrderIndex: 11
eeeeeeeee
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NEW Stage 3: Devise a Plan
Devise a plan with Thrall.
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THRALL BOI
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In the Baine scenario
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servers going up soon with forum changes
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theyre adding the velonara quests in 8.2
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A new Club Finder tool has been added, with categories for Dungeons, Raids, PvP, RP, Social, and more. Players can set their role and filter by things such as item level.
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mechagnomes tagged as playable
BUT
dont jump to conclusions
they use base gnome stuff
so it might just be copy pasta
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I like pasta
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8.2 Heart - Emerald Dreamway
Description: The green dragonflight is under attack by the Void.
Difficulty: 5-player Normal Scenario
OrderIndex: 10
From Wowhead
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yeah theres a bunch of dragon stuff
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👀
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maybe 8.3 is dragon isle?
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draggggons
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yep, and that building on the dragon isles looks just like CoS
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such hype
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There's also a scenario in The Eye of Eternity
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also this bit is just amusing to me
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blood elves seem to be siding with sylvanas
This feels wrong. Sylvanas must have known we were coming.
Indeed she did, traitor. You and Lady Proudmoore.
I have no quarrel with you.
Have you forgotten the purge of Dalaran, murderer? Today, the Sunreavers will be avenged.
Then your vendetta is with me, and me alone!
No! You will watch your friends die--just as I did!
Rangers! Kill them all! FOR THE SUNREAVERS!
because theyre working with jaina
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im so excited to see Thrall again
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I rather just feel that Sylvanas gave a bit of information to the Sunreavers who wants revenge against Jaina for Dalaran, and not that all the Blood Elves work with Sylvanas
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I mean, Lor'themar was seemingly opposed to working with Sylvanas, but as of right now doesn't have the possibility of working against her either
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Ew. No. Why? I talked with the BE Racial leader during some War Campaign stuff. Lor'thanor or something? He had some things to say that, to me, indicated at least a split in terms of BE loyalty. If they all go with the Banshee Queen, sadness.
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He said that he'd put his own people at risk if he sided against Sylvanas
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That's what it was! I had forgotten the specifics. Thanks, Fisk.
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and if it is all thats not unexpected
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And that Baines mistake wasnt acting against Sylvanas
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so this is a rebelion 2.0?
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But acting too soon
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she used to be their ranger general
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jo what the fuck is this bullshit ?
I thought there wont be a mop 2.0 rebellion
totaly not garrosh
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honestly, now I'm waiting for more Saurfang stuff to pop up
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that was garona, not lorthemar
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omg we are actually going in with Saurfang and Thrall
foggy abyss
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Lorthemar said that he sympathized with baine, but he was too rash in his actions
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Not MoP btw
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Ah, thanks for correcting me
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and Lorthemar is 100% not siding with saurfang and baine now
Jaina is his #1 enemy on the alliance
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.. well, there was some Saurfang mention, atleast
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I think there are (hopefully) forces at work that we just are not privy to, yet. So far, it doesn't seem like open rebellion. Betrayal/webs of deception moreso?
I swear
if I have to side with baine and thrall
I will riot
as a sylvanas loyalist who sided all time with sylvanas
Oh. Well, I'm a Goblin. I can let my loyalty be bought, to a point, if I feel like roleplaying it. I rarely do, but I do have that option. I have really appreciated the element of player choice to date in terms of some decisions. 😃
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well there is a loyalist scenario
it looks like 2 scenarios for horde
and 1 for alliance
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chances are if you helped Baine return Jaina's revived brother, you'll be siding with them.
if not, you're 99% likely siding with Sylvanas
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and what is my loyalist scenario? I cant find it
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and one for Alliance
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there's three Baine scenarios
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Yeah, as peach mentions, it's looking like there are two different "paths" the scenario can take?
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one Normal, one Loyalist and one Alliance
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Oh, nvm. Selath says it better.
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theres one called loyalist
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atm, the loyalist scenario is exactly the same as the saurfang one
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that one is almost definitely people who are with sylvanas
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yeah but the two horde path have the same steps of helping baine so maye it is just flavor text changes
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actively deciding to free a prisoner is not loyalist, lol
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most of this probably isnt done
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they probably only implemented the three different versions
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NEW Rustbolt Resistor
"R E S I S T" is carved into the seat in crude letters, along with several, more profane things.
Vendor: Stolen Royal Vendorbot
Zone: Mechagon
Faction: Rustbolt Resistance - Exalted
Cost: 524288
another expensive mount
not a surprise
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and will work on them in later updates to the PTR
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could be a scrap currency, yeah
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that amount might make sense
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where you get like 500 for big mobs you kill or something
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Not that it's my area, but perhaps a third tag for this channel might be in order? ptr-spoilers-speculation? Idk. Just a thought. 😃
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no
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this channel as the name says
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ptr-spoilers inherently includes speculation
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is anything PTR
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^^^
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speculation or not
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Oh. My apologies. Just a thought.
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its the lore channel too usually
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Was unaware of that. Ok. 😃
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now you know
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NEW Aerial Unit R-21/X
King Mechagon's private aerial unit, complete with deployable blast cannon and foot warmers.
Drop: King Mechagon
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well, at least where people talk about lore relevant to ptr stuff... other times just base-line lore because "no you got it wrong it's like this"
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this one sounds cool
you think this will be changed?
or do the loyalists have to save this disgusting cow?
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I would hope so, for loyalists
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definitely, as has been said already
they probably only implemented different versions, and will work on them for later PTR updates
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the scenario might not be playable yet
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Thrall is back!
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Was just a guess since mmo champion icons say so
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Alexstrazsa is back too
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theyre called gilblins
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Oh? Alextrazsa was already announced? I really need to read more heh.
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Lol....
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dont think alexstraza was
zealous basalt
new dragon models?
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so Baine thing is a dungeon?
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ah ok
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like the uh end of legion invasion thingies
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Alexstrazsa is invovled into heart of azeroth scenarios
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dragon stuff is heart of azeroth stuff
likely for where the new wounds are bleeding out
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Oh, nice! Dragons are great. Hard to go wrong with some good Dragon stories. 😃
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Looking forward to seeing the raid gear as icons are already datamined
Cloth looks promising
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top is raid
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is it tagged raid?
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and it has mythic also
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so only 2 sets for each type ?
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thats pretty standard for a patch
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1 raid and 1 questing story or whatever
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there will be a recolor for each difficulty
and there will probably be some more stuff
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sorry i made only leather i am rogue main 😃
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all the armor isnt added initially
usually bits
we will see more as the builds come
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@civic atlas nice work 😄
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I thinks these Gilblins use new goblin model's hair and stuff
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woah
well
that makes the next series of allied races easy maybe
tho blizz did say that there would be a brewfest suprise
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where's my murloc mug
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mythic set adds fins
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orange
