#beta-ptr-spoilers

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jade basalt
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Nah it's in-between 2 quests. The first one sends you to seek the help of a night elf in Stormwind, and then in the second quest you "explain what happened in Stormwind" and she's half-pissed. Something happened between the two quests, probably an in-game event.

sudden oak
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if im not mistaken a group of humans steal some hides from the night elf in stormwind

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and you tell her what happens

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@jade basalt

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she is pretty much angry at those humans making profit at the cost of others misery

jade basalt
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Huh, that's not cool

uncut vault
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Human takes the rare leathers from a man she rescued from Teldrassil and try to sell them back to him at higher price

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You have a choice between buying them from the bandits or killing them

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Horde version is with Tauren about taurajo

terse patrol
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@uncut vault obviously we should kill them

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At least, thats what my death knight would do.

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She’s very punitive justicey

tropic trail
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Is Ouroboros not on the PTR yet?

hollow dock
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Unknown, but the Bguild might be a tad buggie. I'd say report it and make a forum post and see what happens after that.

tropic trail
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I did report it to no response.

hollow dock
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You're not supposed to get a response

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it gets sent to the devs and hope it gets looked over.

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If you really want to try for a reponse you can bug them over Twitter

foggy abyss
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PTR Update ?

terse patrol
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Happened tuesday

foggy abyss
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I mean

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i just got one

dense plover
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probably a clientside update

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those just change the db client files

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fix typos or weird bugs

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no content

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content only happens when the servers go down and a build goes out

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the build number hasnt changed

tulip sun
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Sadly I doubt we will get a second build

dense plover
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so it was an actual build

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but yeah it only changed a single DB

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my guess is it fixed some kind of interface error

tulip sun
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Yup!

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@dense plover Gkve

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Whoops

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Can you give me details on what you see?!

dense plover
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island expedition vendor has the datamined gear

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its labeled as ilvl 120

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i dont think thats correct

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its also only some pieces

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theyre BNET accont bound

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require lvl 111

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its a naga WQ

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offers an item

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gives 1k crit, mastery, haste, or vers, while in KT and Zanda for 1 hour

tulip sun
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I meant like details on what it involves 😛

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NPCs involved

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or like is there a naga invasion in other zones?

dense plover
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gonna find out

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probably

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ill take some screenshots

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anyone have a chatacyer with doubloons so they can try getting some of the island gear?

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its clearly there to allow alts to level through islands and also earn gear

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he has text

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probably not voiced

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nope

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cant solo

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so many guys

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actually difficult WQ

tulip sun
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Huh...neat.

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The vulpera discord is curious what the Vol'dun one is like

dense plover
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havent seen it

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i think there may be multiple for some zones

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zandalar doesnt have a lot of accessible coastline

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but nazmir and voldun both do

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and so do all of the zones for kul tiras

uncut vault
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they somehow made the nzoth helm even worse

zealous basalt
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how

terse patrol
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nzoth helmet is pretty ugly

uncut vault
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went from this

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to this

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and now this

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you cannot use helms at all if you want the gift of nzoth story

zealous basalt
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can't it be just

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the flying eye

uncut vault
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it was great as that, I hate that they changed it

rough pollen
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I mean, I don't mind the current one but...
Yeah, the flying eye would probably be better

zealous basalt
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Time to

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Go to the forums

uncut vault
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I reported that it looked better as a floating eye last build, and they somehow made it worse lol

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also shoutout to ruining belf eyes too, gotta love those flashlights that hover off the face

dense plover
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its clear they are iterating on it

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i dont think its final

uncut vault
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it was fine before, lol

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they should have iterated on the horrible male belf ones

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this is how they are on live for the men

rough pollen
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They still haven't fixed the DK eyes as well...it's still weird last I checked

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Then again, last time I played my DK was New Years so it may have changed since then, I don't know

dense plover
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interesting

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they added a follow up?

uncut vault
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for horde, yeah

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they havent had a way to purge the buff yet

dense plover
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do alliance get the eye?

uncut vault
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Yes, both factions do the quests with Xalatath

dense plover
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oh ok

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i know it diverges slightly

uncut vault
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alliance players go to brother pike, who is now in boralus

dense plover
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so i bet there is an alliance followup planned

uncut vault
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the post-raid quests are massively different, just cant test them cause no raid

dense plover
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thats interesting

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cant wait to see

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i know its all part of the leadup to 8.2

uncut vault
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those are the quests where sylvanas gets the dagger, thats most of what we know

dense plover
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theyre doing a very good job creating this story that leads over several questlines that doesnt feel like its annoying or dripfed

zealous basalt
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damn brother pike

uncut vault
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akunda clears the buff for Horde

dense plover
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glad he is staying relevant

uncut vault
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no way to complete the quest if you dont remove the curse, weirdly

dense plover
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wonder if that means the quests will be different if you keep or remove the eye

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i hope so

night swift
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Is that the filler text choices?

uncut vault
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No, those are your choices

night swift
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Lol thats kinda funny

zealous basalt
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"i like this curse"

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thonk

night swift
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“On second thought, I like this curse!”

uncut vault
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Looking at my zandalari paladin on the PTR, I realize, Zandalari cant get the prelate title

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its an alliance only title

tulip sun
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Why?

zealous basalt
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a hue a hue ha hue

uncut vault
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comes from Council of Exarchs for some reason

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Horde equivalent is Frostwolves

hollow dock
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Prelate is also a Draenei rank IIRC. That's why you got that title from them.

tulip sun
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Ah, ok.

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Never knew Draenei had that title

hollow dock
uncut vault
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it was, they were administrators in shadowmoon

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just a bit of an underwhelming title to give for like five draenei NPCs

hollow dock
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yea but in all honesty it's only underwhelming because we got to see so little of them in WoD

uncut vault
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makes me wish theyd done some race specific titles for classes like priests and paladins in Legion

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a highlord Zandalari is gonna be a bit awkward

hollow dock
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Well yea but if they do it for some they gotta do it for all

tulip sun
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Highlord tauren are not exactly great either.

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Most work, but some are a bit eh

zealous basalt
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There should be challenges in warfronts

night swift
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Like bonus objectives?

zealous basalt
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Yeah

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Well, like their own things for something extra

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I don't know. "Complete the warfront with just the required updates" "Enemies hit harder." "Enemy waves are more frequent"

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"Complete the warfront in X minutes or less"

foggy abyss
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Jesus

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why am i not looting the Azsharan medaillon

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Is the loot rate low or has the quest been taken' out ?

dense plover
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are you in the WQ?

foggy abyss
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I am

uncut vault
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nice little change for kul tirans

tulip sun
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Neato

meager zodiac
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NICE

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this little things make me happy

uncut vault
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they also removed Taelia calling you a mainlander adn an alliance emissary

zealous basalt
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How does she calls you

uncut vault
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nothing, they just cut the lines about recognizing you as the alliance emmisary and about coming from the eastern kingdoms

tulip sun
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I like that Fareeya actually appearssaz

jovial skiff
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I like fareeya
She's so tall

terse patrol
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i’d like for them to actually use her

uncut vault
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problem is, theyre clearly planning on using Yrel soon

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and she and yrel have the same voice, fareeya is just yrel doing a deep voice

terse patrol
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ye 😦

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Rip

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I just hope Yrel isn’t an enemy.

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@uncut vault I’ve been wanting her in the main Alliance cast since WoD.

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We lost Maraad, we need a replacement active Draenei.

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Velen is technically Alliance, but really, he’s more neutral than anything. Maraad was the Alliance representative of the Draenei. Someone willing to actually fight the Horde.

uncut vault
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boros should have become an actual character, but he was sadly pretty generic lesser maraad in legion

terse patrol
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Ye, no male Draenei can replace Maraad.

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Yrel could fill the hole though

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ugh he was so cool

night swift
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whispers T'partos

terse patrol
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No

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I don’t want a literal meme being a prevalent character.

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The Lightforged recruitment scenario is already god awful and contradicts the lore already made for Lightforging.

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Adding a guy who fakes speaking in the third person for jokes was the worst.

uncut vault
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I think the one male draenei that could have replaced maraad as the set 'draenei paladin' person was maladaar

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but he got left on draenor and probably killed or became lightforged

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cause the auchenai really dont meld with the lightforged ideology

tropic trail
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I remember the dung in tbc where we killed Maladaar

hollow dock
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The process was introduced by the Naaru but never is it explicitly stated that only the Naaru can do it. @terse patrol Hell we saw the Crown of the Triumverant Lightforged out a ship.

tropic trail
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We also almost got LF Illidan

uncut vault
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the way players see it in the scenario is actually how turalyon did it

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illidan was the exception not the rule

tropic trail
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Turalyon is lightforged?

hollow dock
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Technically he is.

tropic trail
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Is that why he lived for so long?

hollow dock
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Yup.

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Xe'ra forged him with light during the 1000 years War novela which gave him the slowed down aging or the 'immortality' draenei gave

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Have*

tropic trail
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Is Turalyon's sword Lothar's broken sword?

uncut vault
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No, but he commissioned the lightforged smiths to make him a sword identical to it

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ey, it happened!

tropic trail
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Huh?

uncut vault
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Hats that dont make you bald

tropic trail
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Oh

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Maybe next they can make tabards that don't have to be symetric

tulip sun
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that's cool

zealous basalt
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oo

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this new folder thing makes the ptr less heavy

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These jokes are so awful in spanish

inner copper
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anyone have any idea where the alliance wolf mount will be obtained from?

hollow dock
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more than likely PVP but it's currently not actually in game. @inner copper

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it's just datamined

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Doesn't mean it'll actually getused

dense plover
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could also be 8.1.5 war campaign possibly

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or it might not be in 8.1.5

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could be tied to 8.2

hollow granite
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Does anybody know if there's any alternate dialogue when doing the introductory quests for zandalar as a zandalari like there is for kul'tiras as a kul'tiran?

hollow dock
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It's still not in game if its tied to 8.2 @dense plover

uncut vault
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From what I saw, no

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I'll go test it again, though

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last time I did it, Jakrazet still refers to a zandalari troll as a "thing"

hollow granite
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ah okay, just curious

uncut vault
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oh, interesting

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the intro to zuldazar is straight up skipped for zandalari

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finishing the stormwind extraction brings you to the seal

limber mural
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how's that for Kul Tirans too?

uncut vault
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they still have the intro, just got lines from taelia cut about being a mainlander and alliance emmisary

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and when you go to Kul Tiras you tell jaina to "Take me home"

hollow dock
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So. You watch Jaina get imprisoned and all that stuff or is that skipped over?

uncut vault
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you do see all of that, but you dont see her first cutscene, oddly

tulip sun
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Interesting

hollow dock
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that's stupid

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why does it always seem they gimp the alliance in things like this?

uncut vault
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not sure what this is gimping

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alliance got a lot more individual work put in to removing voice lines

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horde just gets a segment cut

hollow dock
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Oh ok. When you said their intro was removed I thought you meant that they just start questing in Zandalar while the alliance has to do their entire introduction with the Jail and stuff

tulip sun
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I think they do

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But how is that bad?

hollow dock
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I mean having one do more work than the other is clearly on equal footing. Spending an extra 10 minutes vs 0 minutes to just get to the meat of BFA on the allied race.

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Very equal

tulip sun
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All you miss is walking up some stairs.

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It is the intro to the expansion and they put a lot of work to make it realistic for Kultirans

hollow dock
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The intro isnt just walking up stairs. Its also breaking out of jail

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The hordes scenario is breaking out of jail. As is the alliance. The hordes scenario is removed. Alliance isnt.

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Clearly one isnt being gimped.

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Is what youre saying.

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Course since its the alliance being gimped you yet again just seem to not care or think its an issue.

uncut vault
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the stormwind extraction isnt removed?

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Please read what I said

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horde quests have always been longer, this actually evens them out a bit

terse patrol
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i just hope future alliance allied race scenarios are as plot relevant as the horde ones have been

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looking at you lightforged draenei meme scenario

night swift
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void elves kind of had some plot relevance

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the lightforged one was more of a "This is some backstory for the lightforging process" quest

uncut vault
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void elf was less plot relevance, more just creating the asspull

terse patrol
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Ye, the Horde allied race stuff has heavy implications for the future.

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Wish they’d put the same thought into Alliance stuff

inner copper
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is there a way to get into the ptr?

astral anchor
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download the game - it should be an option where it says Battle for Azeroth just above the PLAY button

hollow dock
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that scenario was only really a meme because people wanted to meme out that T'paartos would say his name. @terse patrol Nothing else about it is memey

tulip sun
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I don't think the Horde ARs are anymore relevant than the Alliance ones.

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Like all races in expansion, we see them all participating in the war and aiding their respective factions.

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this expansion*.

hollow dock
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I mean. You don't see that for the void elvesbut do see that for thenightborne

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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in terms of recruitment scenarios

tulip sun
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Huh?

dense plover
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what does that have to do with ptr?

strange falcon
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nothing,i posted it in the wrong channel

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let me repost

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woops

zealous basalt
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You is a noob

strange falcon
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thanks

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👌

jovial coral
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🤖

terse patrol
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Think we’ll get a ptr build today?

tulip sun
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Hopefully

zealous basalt
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Kul tiran dances please

strange falcon
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no allied race has "new" dances

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so yah

zealous basalt
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Inb4 default dance

hollow dock
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thing is

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I don't think the Kul Tirans can even use the human dance

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well the men anyways

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women maybe

dense plover
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Well troll dance won’t work on zandalari

hollow dock
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Oh yea I guess they wouldn't either.

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well for the male

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the female one I imagine works just fine

zealous basalt
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Probably unique dances?

hollow dock
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only thing we're left with

strange falcon
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if they give them unique dances then they'll have to go back and give the other allied races

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unique dances too

zealous basalt
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They arent forced to do that

dense plover
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^

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This

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The two races have gotten way more work than all the allied races

zealous basalt
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And we dont know if

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IF

dense plover
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There’s nothing saying they can’t do unique dances too

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Especially since they already have a bunch of unique animations

zealous basalt
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The next allied races will be more unique than just recolors

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Nothing is a rule when coming to Allied races

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They could or not, have more work than core races

jade basalt
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They can have a lot of work put into them, like Tirasian humans, but never more than a core race really. If they re-use and modify even if only 1 animation, that's already "less" work than a core race. Which they do. And that's not even taking into account the fact that they have way less customization options.

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KT, Zandalari, and Vulpera (if they are an allied race - even if one might want to punch them) are a better template for allied races than, say, Highmountain tauren or Mag'har. It's perfectly okay to reuse rigs, animations, and so on, as long as the end result looks more unique and different. Recoloring an orc's skin or changing a tauren's horns, that should be customization options.

zealous basalt
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Ditto

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Make them info Night warriors like?

hollow dock
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Pretty much. Honestly I only think Highmountain got turned into an allied race because the other 3 can get justified to be their own thing.

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and they wouldn't release just 3

tulip sun
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I honestly think Highmountain are fine as their own thing

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The one thing I can reasonably see being customization options would be Lightforged.

zealous basalt
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And maghar

hollow dock
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Ofc the one that is just a change in horns is what the hordie says is perfectly fine as it's own race :p

zealous basalt
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Honestly

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Imo

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The only allied races per say, would be velves and shaldorei

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And kt + zandalari

tulip sun
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I play both factions.

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But anyway...Highmountain are NOT those from Mulgore.

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Just as the Kul'tirans are humans from Kul'tiras, not Stormwind like the playable ones.

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Highmountain makes no sense as a customization option, while Lightforged could have been introduced in such a way that the army of the light joins the alliance and starts lightforging new Draenei from the Exodar, make it a quest.

strange falcon
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moose travel form ❤

tulip sun
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Does that make sense?

terse patrol
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@hollow dock so what is your thought on the rumor that the rest of the capital cities might end up being destroyed, and thats why they’re consolidating everything in the current PTR in Stormwind and Orgrimmar as preparation

hollow dock
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Consolidating what?

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what proof stands behind the rumor? Is it just he said she said?

terse patrol
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Just he said she said. But there is the comment at Blizzcon where they implied there might be nothing left to win when this is over. Buuut

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Then again

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They also said kingdoms would burn in Legion lmfao

hollow dock
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So then why bother even wasting the energy on a rumor like that?

tulip sun
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It is fun to speculate?

terse patrol
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I just wish Blizzard wouldn’t pussy out. I was expecting some hard hitting losses in Legion.

tulip sun
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I think it would be a neat thing to do. I would love if they updated Orgrimmar to include more districts and such for new races.

terse patrol
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But instead it felt like we ran over the Legion.

tulip sun
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SAME. I wanted so much more death in Legion.

hollow dock
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they probably planned it.

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but sometime midway

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things changed

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Times change as a wise orc said

terse patrol
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Like, we had no deaths in 7.3, on the home planet of the Legion.

hollow dock
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It did feel a tad rushed didn't it?

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Like the story was servicable

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but ultimately felt empty in hindsight

terse patrol
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I mean, from someone I know on the art team, the intention at first was an Argus expansion, but they figured people would get tired of demons after Legion.

tulip sun
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I would've liked that honestly.

terse patrol
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Argus was cobbled together from assets from said scrapped expac

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Two of Argus’ zones were just the same tileset used twice, and the third was unique.

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Well, unique in terms of reused WoD assets.

tulip sun
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Interesting

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So BfA was not the original plan

terse patrol
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Argus was scrapped early.

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I assume BFA would have happened either way

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Even if that meant it would happen an expansion later.

tulip sun
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it would have been cool to explore the lightforged in more depth in this said expansion.

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Perhaps we would've saw more diversity in the army of the light as well

terse patrol
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My guess is

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Void Elves would have played a role in the scrapped expansion.

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My guess is, Velves wouldn’t have felt like an asspull if the original plan happened.

tulip sun
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It is interesting to think about.

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Same with the destroying all capitols

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Though I doubt they'll actually do it

terse patrol
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Thing is

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I’d vomit being forced to camp out in yet another human capital.

tulip sun
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I think the idea works better on the Hordeside, ya.

terse patrol
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I’d rather Stormwind blow up, and Ironforge be the new base of the Alliance.

tulip sun
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Someone in one of my threads made the best idea for an expanded Orgrimmar

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But anyway

hollow dock
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See

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I'd rather no city be blown up

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and we get some new continents that rise up from the depths. or a new planet we find.

tulip sun
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I would support an expansion or several exploring a COMPLETELY NEW WORLD. For some reason we decide to colonize it.

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Maybe introduce a bunch of native species, new continents, etc.

unborn glacier
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Backside of Azeroth

zealous basalt
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New build?

ionic terrace
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@zealous basalt no realms right now so yeah prob

dense plover
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almost definitely

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give it an hour or so probably

tulip sun
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😮

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WOOOO

hollow dock
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idk about that guys

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Right now it's the crunch time for people gettin their slips to keep working or not.

dense plover
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they already got slips

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and realms are down

terse patrol
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well

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Apparently the layoffs were non-development, mostly in the e-sports department

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@hollow dock

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so i wouldnt be too worries

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worried

hollow dock
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yea the company call is still ongoing

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Latest info we got is that they want to expand the current development teams

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saying they're to slow

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For All dev teams

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HOTS included in that

terse patrol
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A good sign imo

hollow dock
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Not really.

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The issue with the dev teams is that their workloads are massive

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adding more hands to pass over everything makes more mistakes come out of it.

tulip sun
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More people involved could mean more screw ups.

terse patrol
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True.

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I mean, thats what happened with Warlords if I recall.

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They hired on a ton of new people who didn’t know WoW.

hollow dock
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the team was inexperienced

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heavily inexperienced.

terse patrol
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Guess we’ll see, with time.

hollow dock
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Thankfully right

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there's like 4 people in this call

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that have any form of common sense

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but they're being drowned out bythe mobile debate

terse patrol
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I just hope they don’t hire on more Korean style devs. The fox mount feels like something out of a Korean MMO. :x

hollow dock
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that's the art team

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not the dev team

terse patrol
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tru

tulip sun
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The mount still looks great.

terse patrol
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Need less Korean style art in the art team

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It looks good, yes

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But it doesn’t look WoW.

hollow dock
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I disagree.

terse patrol
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That’s the issue.

hollow dock
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You can argue pandaria doesn't look like WoW then

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Actually

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speaking of

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Do the night elf buildings look like WoW

terse patrol
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Except Pandaria has been in the lore sinc WC3

hollow dock
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because that is korean architecture

terse patrol
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<_>

jade basalt
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The mount is foreshadowing the Japan expansion

hollow dock
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I wouldn't mind that

terse patrol
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Architecture =/= art style.

hollow dock
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Gimme muh shog-

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Did you seriously just state that

terse patrol
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If you can’t parse out that statement, that’s on you.

hollow dock
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You are claiming

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that architecture

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isn't art

zealous basalt
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What have you done

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jumps off the channel

terse patrol
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Anyways, I’m not fighting with Des for the fourth time in a week.

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I don’t like the fox, leaving it at that.

tulip sun
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Heh, still less than me.

hollow dock
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That's fine to not like it

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but don't claim it to be something it's not.

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In which, I have to ask

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@terse patrol Does the Heart of the Aspects look like WoW?

jade basalt
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It looks like Yu-Gi-Oh !

terse patrol
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dude

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Pandaria is fine because it’s grounded in the lore. The “fox” is apparently some magical princess fox native to outer space or some bullshit that shows up to aid adventurers. I chalk it up to being non-canon.

hollow dock
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I didn't say pandaria

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All the store mounts are non anon

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canon

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We literally have

#

a horse

#

made of the fucking galaxy

#

We have the embodiment of the Dragon Soul that we ride around on

terse patrol
#

It looks like a gaudy Pandaria dragon so ye, it looks like Pandaria’s style.

hollow dock
#

Except

#

here's the thing Honk

#

it came out nearly a full year before pandaria

terse patrol
#

Clearly it was prepping for Pandaria.

#

(god i hope we dont get some lame princess fox land)

hollow dock
#

That's what the flying goat with a thumbtack on it's chest is for

#

which btw

#

is clearly more logical than a space fox

#

Which that fox is honestly morea reference to Star Fox more than anything

inner copper
#

It’s a fox from somewhere else, chill

limber mural
#

did someone say star fox

inner copper
#

The luminous star seeker isn’t from Azeroth either

limber mural
#

can't let you do that

#

uh

#

star fox

terse patrol
#

Thank god store mounts arent canon tbh

#

(Kinda like how black drake mounts wouldnt be canon since Wrathions wiped out most of his kind that were left over from Cataclysm.

inner copper
#

Some mounts in the store are less unique

jade basalt
#

Well, some are canon. Fey dragon, Skyreaver, Runesaber, etc.

inner copper
#

Wait

#

ONE MOUNT COULD BE CANON!

zealous basalt
#

But the black dragonflight is back

terse patrol
#

That’s a mystery atm.

zealous basalt
#

It is and you shut it

inner copper
#

The mystic runesaber

hollow dock
#

Honestly

#

I think Azerite cures the dragons

#

of their sterility

terse patrol
#

hot

hollow dock
#

and there's just a huge stash of it over on the Dragon Isle

#

that's my theory

inner copper
#

Aren’t the dragon isles old god territory?

hollow dock
#

No?

#

Where did you read that?

#

Like the old gods have no territory to their own. they're imprisoned. they tried to get some in cataclysm

#

that failed

zealous basalt
#

Imagine if what Des said is good and Azerite heals the sterility

terse patrol
#

Well. In the nixxed Vanilla zone it was.

#

@hollow dock

hollow dock
#

So the thing that isn't canon

zealous basalt
#

It would mean that Azeroth is indeed the most powerful being

hollow dock
#

also

terse patrol
#

Pretty clear though they used it as inspiration for the temple in Stormsong

hollow dock
#

where is the statement of that?

#

that does not mean it'sold god territory

uncut vault
#

I wouldn’t say it was direct inspiration

hollow dock
#

there are actual large shell things

#

in WoW

#

with tentacles

#

that aren't old gods

uncut vault
#

More just “hey these are both tentacle things”

jade basalt
#

They were Old Gods.

#

These were meant to be Old God temples.

terse patrol
#

@hollow dock

jade basalt
#

Of course that was the original concept. Who knows what they'll end up doing with them when they introduce them.

hollow dock
#

the two large things in Vash'jir were old gods?

terse patrol
#

They were meant to be a land dominated by Old God temples

zealous basalt
#

Probably a real isle full of over agressive dragons

jade basalt
#

No, I was talking about the Dragon Isles temples Des, from the pic above

terse patrol
#

My guess is, the dragons watch over it

hollow dock
#

Ahok.

#

My mistake for the misunderstanding

terse patrol
#

Like they did at the Temple of Atalhakkar

uncut vault
#

Plus, while it obviously is now, the shrine is to the Tidemother, not anything explicitly old god

terse patrol
#

^

#

I just said inspiration

hollow dock
#

In which

#

I will say this

#

that still does not make the dragon isle

#

as a canon old god land

terse patrol
#

We realize that.

#

But considering the old god stuff is only just kicking off?

hollow dock
#

What we do know is that they're a land for the dragons. As seen in the mini-island quest

terse patrol
#

Not speculating that it might have Old God ties would be silly.

hollow dock
#

that's not a canon statement though

#

in which

#

we were speaking ONLY of canon stuff

#

not speculating

terse patrol
#

fuck

#

Are we not allowed to speculate?

hollow dock
#

Did I say that?

terse patrol
#

Because when we do, you reeeeee.

hollow dock
#

You butted into the conversation with your speculations when I was trying to sort out to Lunar that it wasn't canon that it's an old god area

#

So yes. I'm going to tell you "That's not what we're talking about"

jade basalt
#

In short :

  1. The original concept for the Dragon Isles had them as a max-level zone. Alexstrasza was involved, not sure how.
  2. It also had temples to the Old Gods on it. How this related to dragons is up in the air, and for all we know it wasn't (or something changed).
  3. Eventually they were scrapped because they had more than enough zones, same reason Emerald Dream and Hyjal were scrapped (in addition to other reasons). Also the temples were too big and a huge endeavor, wasn't worth it.
  4. They were then benched for.. about 15 years, until BFA made a reference to it ! Now all we know is that "Few have heard [about them], and fewer have been there", that there may be a link with the Black dragonflight, and that Wrathion is looking for them.
hollow dock
#

Thank you, Quiet.

limber mural
#

I would still kill for a proper emerald dream zone

#

The druid portal nexus is just enough of a taste

#

oh and the post xavius bit ofc

hollow dock
#

Honestly

#

I dont' want it. We've tread over the only reasons we'd go there twice now.

#

Which is the Emerald Nightmare

jade basalt
#

Emerald Dream was always tricky. They tried it at first, but it was put aside, unneeded. Then they tried it again, they didn't like it, they scrapped it. At that point they knew they couldn't pull off the Dream as an expansion, or even a zone - if we were to get the Dream, it'd be as an instance, a raid, something like that (Metzen stated exactly so). And in the end, it's what we got.

uncut vault
#

I mean, there’s always the opposing death angle

#

In retrospect it’s a little weird that void has been the biggest threat to the life realm

hollow dock
#

not entirely

#

given the history of why it's the threat to the backup plan of azeroth

#

Which is summarized perfectly by "Fuck Fandral"

dense plover
#

PTR BUILD

#

RED ALERT

#

THIS IS NOT A DRILL

#

🚨

#

1.95gb

#

decent sized build

#

29352

#

some new anim and phys

#

"[ADDED] character/zandalaritroll/female/zandalaritrollfemale0069-00.anim (lookup: 16c66d1eef3a92aa, content md5: 79de66d4350ad1acb1efc96e17e205d9, FileData ID: 1662309)
[ADDED] item/objectcomponents/waist/buckle_panstart_a_01.phys (lookup: 47bac51a6ff246b0, content md5: 147623f42f3b3cbd9820c14403fa7baa, FileData ID: 615984)"

#

lots more zanda and KT anim updates

#

bee creature and bee critter changes

#

alliance wolf mount got some changes too

zealous basalt
#

DANCE?

dense plover
#

tons of anims for derek proudmoore

#

no clue

#

fyi anims = animations

#

zandalari aquatic have an armored and unarmored look apparently

#

and skins were updated

tulip sun
#

Interesting

#

What rig does Derek use...human I assume

dense plover
#

woah

#

LOADS of map updates

#

darkshore and deepholm got some changes

#

tho it copuld just be how they baked some stuff

tulip sun
#

I love that backround

dense plover
#

its nice

#

probably not quite done

zealous basalt
#

Any dance, peach?

dense plover
#

especially since KT one got some edits for a few builds

#

ill check in a sec

#

loading my main char to see if we can test anything new

zealous basalt
#

The dead undead

#

You are a mess

dense plover
#

eh

#

i was right

#

the mount is an achieve reward

zealous basalt
#

Finally got fixed

dense plover
#

what did?

#

and horde gets a horse

#

DES

#

I CAN READ THE FUTURE

#

BLIZZ

#

PLZ

#

HIRE ME

#

ok

#

logging on to a zandalari

zealous basalt
#

Boi

dense plover
#

gonna test

#

what got fixed tho?

dense plover
#

yeah

#

thats why i said I could read the futurwe

jade basalt
#

Neat

dense plover
#

I said the horde should get a horse if alliance gets a wolf

#

and I even said it would probably be an achievement or something

#

THEY GOT A DANCE

jade basalt
#

People were asking for an equivalent to the Alliance-armored wolf, so there we go.

dense plover
#

and its new!

zealous basalt
#

OH

dense plover
#

Females too!

zealous basalt
#

I TOLD YOU

dense plover
#

gonna check KT

jade basalt
#

@dense plover looks like modified night elf dance correct ?

dense plover
#

no

#

its like a weird ground pound thing

#

with like a shuffle

#

female kind of does maybe?

#

hard to tell

#

gifs would help

#

i cant gif

hollow dock
#

Dat change to ascension tho

dense plover
#

it was something they said was happening

zealous basalt
#

Can you

#

Use da phone

hollow dock
#

AH

#

OK

#

So

dense plover
#

did wowhead just die?

hollow dock
#

@tulip sun The alliance wolf mount

#

It's from a new achievement

dense plover
#

i think its from arathi

hollow dock
#
    Stolen from the Arathi Basin stables, this fire-hearted charger now steeds for the Horde.
    Achievement: Two Sides to Every Tale
    NEW Ironclad Frostclaw
    Captured in the snows of Alterac Valley, this bloodthirsty hunter now roars for the Alliance.
    Achievement: Two Sides to Every Tale```
tulip sun
#

I saw, lol.

hollow dock
#

Nope

dense plover
#

world server crashed

zealous basalt
#

Gfdi

jade basalt
#

@uncut vault can ride Zandalari pally mount

dense plover
#

world server is dying

zealous basalt
#

Boy

#

The dance

dense plover
#

im trying

#

dont blame me

zealous basalt
#

slams hands on table

#

Jk

dense plover
#

YES

zealous basalt
#

NEW?

dense plover
#

yes

tulip sun
#

Someone go gif it, peach doesn't know hwo xD

dense plover
#

its a kind of shuffle

zealous basalt
#

Everythinf is a shuffle for you

#

...

#

Are wowhead people sleping or wat

dense plover
#

it takes time to upload gifs to the site

#

and create all 4 characters

#

especially since server keeps exploding

#

they have a train animation too

#

joke audio is in for KT

zealous basalt
#

I called it

dense plover
#

flirt too

#

gonna check zanda

#

probably the same

zealous basalt
#

And next allied race will probably have diff stuff

#

Inb4 people will xonplain about

tulip sun
#

Ok

zealous basalt
#

"Uh why do they have new animations and the other allied races dont"

tulip sun
#

That female zandalari dance...

#

Uhm

#

I laughed when I saw it

#

She is like...humping the ground. I don't know how else to describe it.

#

Flailing her arms

zealous basalt
#

...

icy nexus
#

sounds like the cry baby dance

dense plover
#

wow crashed

#

i think its maybe twerking

#

not sure

#

didnt see much of it

dense plover
#

thats worse than mine

zealous basalt
#

...

#

Srsly

tulip sun
#

Ya, sorry.

#

I literally just pulled out my phone and took the images e.e

#

Several

zealous basalt
#

Discord

tulip sun
#

Sorry

zealous basalt
#

Videos when

dense plover
#

still disconnecting frequently

#

they broke thge servers

zealous basalt
#

taps fingers

dense plover
#

you lose some tho

#

650 for 500

dense plover
#

see? new

#

thx porter

jade basalt
#

The zandalari paladin mount's helm glows like the shield from the first boss of Dazar'alor

uncut vault
#

ye the mount has matching weapons from the raid

#

2h sword from the first boss too

#

almost makes me wish it got color variants

#

currently gold and green, theres a gold and white variant

dense plover
#

loot for the crucible is in

#

new weapon models

#

armor is the same

#

normal is 385+

#

mythic is 415+

jade basalt
#

Isn't Mythic Dazar'Alor already 415 ?

#

Probably not up to date

tulip sun
#

Huh

#

Female KT dances like a ballerina

dense plover
#

some interesting trinkets

#

world server crashed

#

AGAIN

#

this build has a bunch of new stuff

#

but the stability is definitely worse

uncut vault
#

I love this

dense plover
#

where is that from?

tulip sun
#

KT dance? 😛

dense plover
#

tools of the trade are in this build

#

no i mean

tulip sun
#

Also

dense plover
#

what is it refwerencing

tulip sun
#

THE KT into for a new character is new this build?

dense plover
#

uh

#

no i dont think so

#

think it was last build

tulip sun
#

Don't remember it.

dense plover
#

and down again

#

this is frustrating

tulip sun
#

Yup

dense plover
#

i cant test anything

#

wonder if they are trying to do something new

#

and its breaking stuff

#

seems like fall damage was cut down a bit

dense plover
#

see?

#

its a shuffle

tulip sun
#

I thought you meant the Zandalari

dense plover
#

oh shit

#

they DID fix banlu

#

i didnt even realize he was broken

#

but now I do

#

theyre both kind of shuffle-y

#

not the female ones tho

tulip sun
#

wAIT WHAT?

#

Banlu was broken?

#

How so?

#

I ride him all the time and didn't notice anything

dense plover
#

he didnt do other voice lines

#

only the mount and dismount

#

he is supposed to talk during the rides

zealous basalt
#

Ye

dense plover
#

he does now

zealous basalt
#

Since 8.1

dense plover
#

i think it broke short after he was added

zealous basalt
#

As a latín

#

That seems

#

Like cumbia

dense plover
zealous basalt
#

...

#

Thousand needles still...

dense plover
#

is water

zealous basalt
#

Yeah. ..

dense plover
#

oooo

#

i didnt notice the on equip stuff on the armor

#

interesting

tulip sun
#

What is wrong with thousand needles still having water? o.o

dense plover
#

oh damn

#

those effects are like leggos

#

thats fun af

zealous basalt
#

Which effects

dense plover
tulip sun
#

y u just randomly traveling? lol

zealous basalt
#

Does someone have

#

The female zandalari dance

dense plover
#

see? it kind of is twerking

#

almost

#

its probably an actual dance

#

i just dont know the names of real dances

jade basalt
#

Huh, looking at Crucible's last boss' loot, aren't the Void Stone and the Trident of Deep Whatever the relics they use, and which you gathered with Xal'atath ? Neat that we get to loot them.

uncut vault
#

apparently this is what the kul tiran male dance is based on lol

#

yeah the helm also has a model, all three are used in the final fight

#

helm isnt lootable, interestingly

#

kul tirans still cant quest in kul tiras, lol

tulip sun
#

This is KILLING ME PORTER

#

Why did you have to show me that

zinc sandal
#

I think I know what the female Zanda dance is

tulip sun
#

Share share share

zinc sandal
#

Lemme check

#

Ok nvm I was wrong.

whole cedar
#

please share i'll give credit once we have the zandalari videos ready

zinc sandal
#

I thought it was a dance move from Beyonce's song Formation

dense plover
#

and down again

zinc sandal
tulip sun
#

I am absolutely clueless on the dances

zinc sandal
#

Similar, but not quite.

dense plover
#

similar is usually how they work

#

what point in the video

#

like

#

timestamp?

zinc sandal
#

Checking now, yes

#

0:37 to 0:55

tulip sun
#

Huh...it actually may be it?

zinc sandal
#

And then... There's more, sec

#

2:00 to 2:11

whole cedar
#

i look a look at 0:37, didnt seem that close

zinc sandal
#

Yeah, from what I recalled of the video it seemed similar, but now that I watched it again, not so much

tulip sun
#

RIP.

dense plover
#

arm movements kinda

#

but nah

#

definitely not it

zinc sandal
#

Nah

whole cedar
#

female zandalari dances the gwara gwara

tulip sun
#

I never heard of that xD

#

How do people know this stuff so fast

whole cedar
#

tbh I saw some people talking on the ptr

dense plover
#

lots of people

#

eventually someone will know

#

its the equivalent of 6 degrees of kevin bacon

jade basalt
#

But I'd have to rewatch it

dense plover
#

did travel form have armor before?

zinc sandal
#

Pretty sure, yeah

dense plover
#

zandalari jokes and flirts are in

#

were the lines for them ever datamined?

#

what is the name of the zandalari mount?

zealous basalt
#

Holy dino

uncut vault
#

crusader's direhorn

dense plover
#

uh

#

embrace of the loa is different

uncut vault
#

the intro cutscene for kul tirans got added

dense plover
#

no the regular zandalari mount?

tulip sun
#

Direhorn something I think

dense plover
#

so embrace now seems to empower you with a loa buff based on where you are

#

and has a 5d cooldown

#

so its sort of kind of random?

uncut vault
#

they havent added the zandalari racial mount to the mount tab yet, its weird

dense plover
#

ah ok

#

so im not crazy

hollow dock
#

if it's based on where you are then it's not that random

#

unless the buff is changing

tulip sun
#

Maybe it is not final?

dense plover
#

i think theyre touching it up - b/c right now the paladin mount is so good

#

i dont know if its random or not

#

it went on a 5day cooldown

#

bit hard to test

uncut vault
#

its not random, you have to find the shrines in the world

dense plover
#

oh

#

well like

uncut vault
#

then it gives you the permanent buff until you change

hollow dock
#

ah ok

dense plover
#

i just used it on dazar alor

#

and it was paku

#

so i thought it was because I was high up

uncut vault
#

can only change once every 5 days it seems

hollow dock
#

That's kinda neat tbh

jade basalt
#

Good flavor

dense plover
#

yeah and since all of them are useful
it means that its more flavorful and less OP
and it means you wont always use the tiger one

#

where is that?

uncut vault
#

can talk to a guard to ask where they are

#

and zandalari one

dense plover
#

6 sec up from 4

uncut vault
#

I wonder if "around the world" just means in dazar'alor

#

cause all of them are here, but would be cool if there was an occasional other one in troll places throughout the globe

#

like a kimbul one in tanaris, or a gonk one on the echo isles

dense plover
#

also

#

the loa buff can not be dispelled anymore

#

not even right click

#

so you dont have to worry about accidentally removing it and then having to wait 5 days

uncut vault
#

they really dont want us to keep the gift of nzoth lol

dense plover
#

it actually becomes an ability listed in your spellbook for the time

#

what do you mean?

uncut vault
#

not only can you not complete all quests if you keep the gift, you have to have the eyeball removing your head xmog at all times

#

where if you remove it, you get a toy to toggle the eye

dense plover
#

wtf

#

thats dumb

foggy abyss
#

Zandalari Dance Pog

hollow dock
#

anyone else kinda annoyed

#

that for Trial of Style

#

they don't give us new mog sets?

vestal otter
#

i wish they would give us exclusive mog sets.. and not recolors

tulip sun
#

Theyre not new?

vestal otter
#

no

zealous basalt
#

Wait

tulip sun
#

Eh, the past exclusive mogs were kinda crap to be fair

zealous basalt
#

Explain port

foggy abyss
#

I like em' tbh

zealous basalt
#

Like how do the nzoth thing goes

#

Are they the same of xal questlines?

dense plover
#

the point is to give complete sets that are old

#

so that you can have some of the old mogs

#

even if you dont do old content

hollow dock
#

I don't want unique mogs

#

I want

#

recolors of the old mogs

dense plover
#

no, i understand

#

yeah

hollow dock
#

that we can't already get

foggy abyss
#

Please Blizzard tell me you lad changed the Basic Paladin animation for Zandalaris

hollow dock
#

No

#

they woul dnever do that

#

the whole point of the animation revamp was to streamline it all

#

no race unique stuff

#

been spouting this shit from the start and y'all wanted to ignore me

zealous basalt
#

No u

languid yoke
#

I want trial of style to reward the invisible gloves ,-,

foggy abyss
#

Zandalari screen selection

languid yoke
#

then at least it would reward something usable for mogging

foggy abyss
#

Oh

#

dang Repost mb

hollow dock
#

Can we just cut the crap

#

and get what we really want

#

All armor hidden

zealous basalt
#

There is a toy for that

hollow dock
#

for 5 mins

uncut vault
#

@zealous basalt The Nzoth quests and Xal quests are the same, the end of part one of them has Xal tricking you, and using you to get free. Nzoth then tentacles your mind and bestows his gift upon you, granting you this at all times, overriding your helmet mog.
https://i.gyazo.com/d2a275744f541d6a45efe0297e7f9459.png

languid yoke
#

yeah but that toy got nerfed after 6.1

hollow dock
#

We want perm hidden armor

languid yoke
#

also it's 10 minutes, but 30 minutes cd

hollow dock
#

forever

#

because that's really all we want

languid yoke
#

ye I want a shirtless, feral worgen

hollow dock
#

and pantless

#

and bootless

languid yoke
#

I don't actually need invis pants but shirtless is a must

hollow dock
#

and shoulderless

#

All armor is invis

#

that's what we want

uncut vault
#

after, you get a quest from Talanji or Pike, giving you the option to purge the buff, which rewards you with a toy to let you put the eye back on if you want, where if you choose to keep the Gift, you have to have the eye on at all times if you want the story.

zealous basalt
#

What if i conplete the story and then go back to remove?

uncut vault
#

no story to complete yet

zealous basalt
#

So atm its permanent?

uncut vault
#

so until at least 8.2, you are stuck with it if you want that future story.

zealous basalt
#

Cant i like do it on another character

uncut vault
#

you can, yeah

hollow dock
#

so wait Im confused

uncut vault
#

but they need to be caught up on all the war campaign

hollow dock
#

are you forced to keep the eye on or not?

uncut vault
#

if you want the story involving the gift, you have to keep the eye on

hollow dock
#

and the toy doesn't trigger that requirement?

uncut vault
#

if you dont want the story, you get it removed and an eye toy to put it back on when you want

#

the toy is rewarded from the quest to remove the eye

hollow dock
#

right

#

but my question is

#

using the toy to get the eye back

#

Does that not trigger the thing to keep the story going

uncut vault
#

No, its just a visual effect

#

the story stuff is from the Gift of N'zoth buff

#

the toy buff is separate

zealous basalt
#

What does the gift do?

#

Can you give me a description?

dense plover
#

it lets you see other people who have it

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otherwise, not much

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toy doesnt do that part

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The eyeball

uncut vault
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as of right now, it does cause some NPCs to react, Ive gotten some casteless zandalari to say stuff

zealous basalt
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Is hidden to people that dont have the gift?

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Yes

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if there are three players, and two have the gift, those two can see it on each other, but the one without cant see it on either of them

zealous basalt
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The eyeball replaces your head piece as the gift?

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Yes, it removes your helm, but not as a transmog

hollow dock
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also

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you can still transmog your helm, it just wont appear ever until you take off the buff

hollow dock
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anyone else noticing

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Alll