He was high up
#beta-ptr-spoilers
dense plover
dense plover
Oh jeez
spice creek
Bolvar temporarily acted as the Alliance leader prior to Wrath of the Lich King following Varian's disappearance.
jade basalt
Bolvar was Regent of Stormwind
jade basalt
Basically he ruled in place of Anduin until he came of age
spice creek
Quite so. For WoW veterans, he was pretty much as a central character in early WoW as Khadgar was recently.
hollow dock
In terms of being an Advisor
spice creek
Genn is merely an advisor to Anduin, nothing more.
dense plover
He would take care of stormwind if anduin was missing
hollow dock
Not quite
zinc charm
ok guys thanks so much for all the info i feel like i have a better understanding of everything
dense plover
Well who would then?
dense plover
Wouldn’t genn be the most logical?
hollow dock
since anduin has no heir
spice creek
That -... might be true? Although I imagine Jes-Tereth would take the reigns. Possibly Mathias Shaw.
jade basalt
Tirion was one of the first original 5 human paladins, alongside Turalyon, Uther, Dathrohan and Gavinrad. Later he became Leader of the Argent Crusade, wielder of Ashbringer, Highlord of the Silver Hand- okay yeah he's got a lot of titles.
hollow dock
Doesn't Jes die in the new raid though?
spice creek
She does? I had no idea.
dense plover
Holy shit, does stormwind not currently have a clear line of succession?
hollow dock
Yes
dense plover
That seems super dangerous
spice creek
Wow. That ... really depresses me.
jade basalt
Anduin has no child, no. If he dies, the House of Nobles would probably take "care" of things.
dense plover
Oh yeah
Cuz old man comic
Alliance gets to have a leader forever, and horde gets to go through leaders like fucking razor blades
😠
hollow dock
At least you guys actually get development and not watch the horde leaders collect dust :v
jade basalt
Technically he could step down as King of Stormwind or High King of the Alliance and go become (a) leader of the/an Army of the Light, not unlike what Turalyon did. 😛
zinc charm
one thing thats been wearing on my mind though is like.. every "bad" leader the horde or alliance has had didnt last long in power. if Sylvanas goes who will be next? some people claim the Blood elf but i dont see it. and if Saurfang and Baine is considered dishonorable people then who??
hollow dock
Well saurfang and baine are considered such because they betrayed the warchief
kinda lik Vol'jin did
So if that warchief poofs
so does their dishonor
zinc charm
Ah didnt think of that
jade basalt
Well Blackhand lasted for about 10 years.
hollow dock
So 10 years is the precedence.
dense plover
I mean, most alliance leaders have been active
hollow dock
IN this ONE expansion
dense plover
Only dwarves and draenei have been left out
uncut vault
For the first time in forever, I can’t say cries in gnome
dense plover
Dwarves being probably because of magni being so omnipresent
dense plover
And draenei because Velen had all of legion
hollow dock
Falstad is theleader of the Wild Hammer
so yea.
Alliance has had to sit on its hands since vanilla
Horde's sat ontheir hands since. Cata. with one leader.
terse patrol
Velen is only sorta-Alliance.
dense plover
So I guess this is moreso the first time night elves and gnomes aren’t being boring
zinc charm
Magni seems like he just wants whats best for the planet and sees the aggression between the horde and alliance as a thorn
dense plover
Lol
hollow dock
Mind you peach
terse patrol
Maraad was the Alliance Draenei leader.
hollow dock
the night elves have actually HAD anything
terse patrol
And he’s dead.
hollow dock
prior to this
and now they're genocided and regulated to the edgy crowd
Honestly
they were better off just not being touched atthis point
hollow dock
it'll be the gnomes
terse patrol
Maybe humans, when Sylvanas destroys Stormwind.
dense plover
I personally never liked their story in wow at all ¯_(ツ)_/¯
hollow dock
You like horde story
zinc charm
the Night elves are cool i see them as stoner hippies
hollow dock
They are very far from stonerhippies Kil
very far from that
but sadly
we'll never actually get to see what they actually were
because they HAVE to be the the hordes punching bag
dense plover
I like the worgen, I like gnomes sorta, and draenei are interesting
I like the story of the humans
I just don’t like playing a human
hollow dock
Ah so the night elves need to be genocided an aditional time for you to think they're interesting
jade basalt
Reminder that after 15 years the circumstances of how the night elves joined the Alliance have never been explained. WoW came out and suddenly "oh yeah the night elves are now Alliance", and it was never addressed again.
Worgen got a whole novel !
terse patrol
^
hollow dock
I always imagined that through Jaina's port they talked with the night elves
who are already hating the horde
dense plover
I just think they’ve kind of acted the same in every wow expansion prior to bfa, post-cata
jade basalt
Oh it's not that it's a complex matter, there's many reasons for them to join the Alliance. It's just.. that it was never addressed.
zinc charm
i thought the night elves had issues with the horde because the horde was unknowingly destroying their land?
hollow dock
What don't you get about that peach?
jade basalt
Sylvanas becoming Warchief was an internal change of plans. That wasn't the original story. Wasn't meant to be Warchief-roulette, but here we are.
terse patrol
Night Elves only became Alliance loyal in Wolfheart. Prior, they were Alliance in name only.
zinc charm
idk i always saw the night elves and tauren as factions forced to choose a side
zealous basalt
Dees
hollow dock
Not entirely. The tauren are in the horde because Thrall saved them from the centaurs
zealous basalt
Didi you see
terse patrol
just say the thing makore ffs
hollow dock
Thenight elves just hated the hordeand so fought with the alliance.
zealous basalt
Limit at Jaina
spice creek
Honk has a point. There are many exchanges in the book that solidifies the night elves with the Alliance then and there. I believe Malfurion even has a passage in Darnassus when they learn of the attack on Ashenvale where he says: "We cannot depend on the Alliance to aid us with this. They are far too divided." or something along those lines. Alliance isn't used as an inclusive term, which really shows until -after- the battle.
spice creek
I'd say we're getting there.
zinc charm
aww
terse patrol
The closer we “get there”, the more night elves the Horde gets to kill during a bombing run quest.
hollow dock
^
zinc charm
which is stupid because if anyone is an immediate threat to the horde its the humans
hollow dock
They exist solely to be the dead girlfriend left in the fridge for the alliance to find to keep hating th horde.
zinc charm
why not just coat stormwind in the plague and be done with it
hollow dock
because reasons
Why don't we use the Alliance Starship we have in orbit around Azeroth?
zinc charm
makes sense
zealous basalt
Considering Xal is just an empty dagger
zealous basalt
Or will be
terse patrol
Sylvanas said she plans to reawaken it.
hollow dock
But there'snothingto reawaken
zealous basalt
Then just say
zealous basalt
"Sylvanas is going to use the hust of the dagger as a host for something new"
terse patrol
wat
zealous basalt
Xal is no longer
terse patrol
The dagger exists.
zealous basalt
We don't know if the dagger will be...
terse patrol
Sylvanas takes the empty dagger, which Nzoth even says he has uses for
zealous basalt
'Usable' latter
hollow dock
N'zoth states its his weapon
zinc charm
but is it possible to reawaken it by adding in another entity? like how there has to be a lich king?
hollow dock
Not really.
zealous basalt
I don't think so
hollow dock
The only reason there needs to be alich king
is because the Lich King is the only thing that commands the scourge
it answers to noother force
zinc charm
ah
terse patrol
It clearly has a purpose in N’zoths plan, he clearly let Sylvanas get her hands on it.
hollow dock
Had Bolvar not taken the helm, the scourge would run rampant
terse patrol
So she intends to reempower it.
hollow dock
We don't know if that's intentional
or if she steals it
we need to stop making so many god damn assumptions
hollow dock
Right so for all we know
zinc charm
would it ever be possible for a third faction to form?
hollow dock
It can get canceled
zealous basalt
never
hollow dock
and no. There is a very small chance that a third faction will ever get presented into WoW
at least as a player thing
zinc charm
ah ok
hollow dock
the game is built on the basis of two factions
It's honestly the only reasonw hy the alliance and horde still exist tbh
zealous basalt
I mean Des is right
its World of Warcraft because two factions existing and destroying eachother while we destroy something bad
To respect the PvP and PvE thing
zinc charm
makes sense. i just like the thought of playing a bad undead worgen lol
tropic trail
Worgen can't be undead
zinc charm
i can dream cant i?? T_T
hollow dock
Worgen are immune to the undead curse sadly
nah we exist to crush them dreams boi :v
zinc charm
lol
tropic trail
You want undead, join the horde
hollow dock
he already is apart of the horde
tropic trail
Lok'tar Ogar
hollow dock
disgustin
hollow dock
that's a bit better.
I'm kinda anti-horde
They kinda committed genocide onmy favorite race and all that :v
zinc charm
i am too atm
tropic trail
They deserved it
zinc charm
with everything that the banshee queen has done makes me feel bad for the alliance and horde
we were better off with hellscream >.<
hollow dock
At least Hellscream showed you that yea
he was just bad
but Sylvanas is actually trying to win this war for the horde
not just orcs
so you can't evenbe mad at her for doing horrible thingsto the enemy in war
like slaughtering civilians in Stormsong :v
zinc charm
well... she did kil her own people in Lorderon
inner copper
Excuse me wowhead but W H A T???
hollow dock
its PTR lunar
dense plover
That’s old
hollow dock
values aren't correct
inner copper
11 year cooldown??
zinc charm
lmfao
hollow dock
Values aren't correct on the PTR
dense plover
For a buff that stays with you on death
sharp gulch
see you in 2030 
tropic trail
Remember regeneratin
inner copper
On wowhead it says 11 year cooldown but it didn’t say that at all in the actual Ptr
sharp gulch
might be nice with divine shield wouldnt it?
hollow dock
Sure. Use yoru 5 min CD to heal yourself to full when you get bursted the moment shield drops
hollow dock
or god forbid there is an arms warrior to break that shield :v
dense plover
The tooltip is different in newer builds
inner copper
Arms warriors can break divine shield?
zinc charm
anyone else dislike gnomes and goblins? should make an event to punt them? no? ok then it must just be me
hollow dock
Which breaks all shields
tropic trail
I wish I could [Spellsteal] it
zinc charm
that would be cool
zinc charm
oink oink
tropic trail
Is that a store mount?
zealous basalt
Yes
zinc charm
🐷
zealous basalt
A mount I can relate :v
hollow dock
They never announcemounts on their youutbe channel
without it being a store mount
that's the whole point of marketing
tropic trail
The only store mount I own is the meat wagon
hollow dock
That's not a store mount
tropic trail
Does that even count?
hollow dock
You do not buy that mount individually from the store
tropic trail
Good
zinc charm
i was thinking about making a second account just to get the Black winged panther mount from RaF
but i idnt know if that would be against ToS
zealous basalt
Your own account
hollow dock
it's not
jade basalt
It's allowed to possess multiple accounts
zinc charm
ok sweet cause i dont see myself getting the aspect mount anytime soon so it would be good to have something flashy
i got a windstrider and hearthsteed lol
ive been grinding weekly at world bosses and old raids though so it wont be far off
tropic trail
First being Vicious warsaber?
hollow dock
Correct
zinc charm
oh wow thats cool. i was trying to get one similar in the MoP exp
tulip sun
Ya, I do like these. I really want more racially armored mounts like this.
tulip sun
It still looks fantastic. The colors just are not exactly what we usually see.
zinc charm
yeah
tropic trail
It looks way off
hollow dock
It'sspecifically because of it's incorrect coloring that it ISNT' good looking
zinc charm
idk i would buy more mounts but to me it takes away from obtaining it
its like buying an exotic on destiny.. just doesnt feel right
hollow dock
Well then work to get 400-600k gold and buy them that way
that way you worked your asshard to get the gold for it
zealous basalt
rekt
zinc charm
lol
tropic trail
I like the undead horses, best mounts are dead mounts
hollow dock
Factually incorrect.
hollow dock
and the moonsaber is the terrible one
tulip sun
Ya, the gryph and bat were pre-patch rewards
zinc charm
dang
tulip sun
I like the model and armor, but yes, the colors ar enot very night-elfy exactly.
hollow dock
The fact that ti's anight elf mount
that doesn't look like a night elfmount
doesn't bother you
tulip sun
It is a little weird, doesn't stop me from enjoying a new mount.
The only thing off is the shade of the red-colored parts.
hollow dock
It just makes it seemlike you're pleased by anything tbh.
meager zodiac
a saber with white glowing moon wings isnt a night elven loooking mount?
and silver details ?
zinc charm
if youre referring to the last mount pictured i feel its more a human mount. has the same color s as a griff
at least to me anywho
hollow dock
to me it looks like a horde tamer colored the mount
Doesn't match up with the other two night elf mounts we have.
Just feels off and I don't like that
and since it's linked to darkshore, an event I already feel they handled poorly, it doesn't help.
jade basalt
This is a proper color scheme for the mount (fan-made edit) https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/411187738520322050/502821835369480202/Dpu4JsDU8AMUew1.png
tulip sun
Des is upset over the red parts of the mount
hollow dock
THAT is a night elf mount
jade basalt
Instead it's piss-yellow with weird red
tulip sun
Did an upset fan make that one?
zinc charm
yeah that is super cool and correct
jade basalt
Probably
hollow dock
(Which shows how Quiet and Kilayr can see what I'm talking about but Kham dismisses it)
tulip sun
I can see what your complaining about
sharp gulch
holy moly that saber
tulip sun
I just don't let it take the joy out of it
jade basalt
I haven't read the whole conversation but, I don't mind if others like it.. I just don't myself 😛
hollow dock
Ikr Jenny?
sharp gulch
that it 100 times btter than the current one
zinc charm
Kharm isnt saying your points are irrelevant just saying they appreciate any and all mounts? right?
tulip sun
I was just explaining what you are displeased with,.
zinc charm
i had it and it was all i had i would use it
hollow dock
I would honestly walk
I do not support incorrect mounts. It's why I still haven't done the Darkshore questline
tulip sun
All I said was that you are upset over the red parts of the mount, which is correct. I was not being dismissive.
zinc charm
so just a misunderstanding see? (starts singing why cant we be friends)
hollow dock
It wasn't just the red that I was upset about. That's the issue.
Quiet pointed out the full incorrect coloring.
You simply dismissed it and assumed it was just the red.
tulip sun
We had this conversation before, where you specifically were upset about the red.
People were whipping out pictures and everything
But anyway
hollow dock
The red is apart of it, but not all of it.
vestal otter
@jade basalt i wish the mount would look like that
hollow dock
Fuckin same
zinc charm
it feels like more and more mounts are added to the market while the ones added in game are Meh and way too expensive
hollow dock
To be honest the game gets quantity of mounts with few and far between beingquality
whileall the store mounts are quality because they don't have to focus on quantity
hollow dock
yea it's a pretty nice one.
Though, outside of the Teldrassil mount, I think my next favorite would be the flying demon dog
zinc charm
which one is that?
tulip sun
I like a lot of the Vicious War mounts. I particularly like the Clefthoof for some reason.
limber mural
The vicious mounts are quality but I'm never getting any of em
zinc charm
oh wow i like that
jade basalt
It feels like they just forgot what night elf aesthetics are. You can look at artwork, concept art and even RTS units, the night elf color scheme is either :
- dark or purple + silver trim (or thin gold trim for Sentinels)
- white (Priestess..)
- green (druids or wardens) + thin golden trim
But in BfA it's just.. All the sets are vivid gold (or piss-yellow) with bright pink or weird purple. And the gold is so thick it's like 70% of the set. Here the shoulders and boots are literally all gold (a weird, faded, yellow rather). There's just a hint of purple (wrong shade) just to say "yeah it's technically night elven" https://i.imgur.com/aIsITPC.jpg
hollow dock
https://www.wowhead.com/spell=253088/antoran-charhound this is the red good boy.
zinc charm
im hoping to get one soon. gotta get up there though
tulip sun
Des, I play both sides and like stuff on both sides you know?
zinc charm
im 14 with a 220 ilvl
hollow dock
can I repost it so Kham sees that Quiet?
zinc charm
114*
hollow dock
It feels like they just forgot what night elf aesthetics are. You can look at artwork, concept art and even RTS units, the night elf color scheme is either :
- dark or purple + silver trim (or thin gold trim for Sentinels)
- white (Priestess..)
- green (druids or wardens) + thin golden trim
But in BfA it's just.. All the sets are vivid gold (or piss-yellow) with bright pink or weird purple. And the gold is so thick it's like 70% of the set. The shoulders and boots are literally all gold (a weird, faded, yellow rather). There's just a hint of purple (wrong shade) just to say "yeah it's technically night elven" https://i.imgur.com/aIsITPC.jpg
@tulip sun Since I bumped it out from you this is what Quiet and I both take issue with.
tulip sun
Don't need to tag me, I saw it?
jade basalt
It's just odd, compared to : https://d1u5p3l4wpay3k.cloudfront.net/wowpedia/c/c6/Night_Elf_Crest.png?version=293bb64818f34a55aee120ec7995b253
hollow dock
Ah you tend to just lose things that get scrolled by
since you said you had missed it entirely when you assumed I was just upset by the red
sharp gulch
i think the sets would have looked nicer if they made the yellow/gold silver instead and maybe the purple bits a bit darker
jade basalt
They should've made a set out of this (Sentinel), a set out of Wardens, a set out of Priestesses, and a set out of either Druid or Huntress.
Or use the exact same sets but with the proper color schemes :
- dark purple or dark grey + silver
- warden green
- pristess white
Instead of - vivid gold everywhere + slight purple + neon blue
- red
- Alliance clownfiesta recolor
zinc charm
idk i play horde for the forsaken and tauren.. my favorite thing to relax to is moosic =p
hollow dock
Hell. https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/742403.jpg this is the colorthat's SUPPOSED tobe onthe Moonsaber
but for some odd reason they just saturated it and made it red
?????
full swanBOT
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hollow dock
I didn't call you jeeves
hollow dock
slightly is an understatement
jade basalt
Yeah they messed up slightly. Color is also something that depends on the surface and proportions. The mount's "red" color would've been fine as a trim. But as a whole surface-covering color ? It's off.
zinc charm
i dont understand why blizz hasnt added in dyes yet
tulip sun
That would take extensive work.
zinc charm
that way you can have X armor set and color it how you wanna
strange falcon
blizz hasnt added dyes yet
because it's not supported by the engine
and to make it possible
hollow dock
somethingsomethingcan'tgetittoworkanditstomuchwork
strange falcon
they would have to play the biggest game of jenga yet
and they've already gone very close to it
with other systems
jade basalt
Dyes are literally impossible with how models are handled currently
zinc charm
dang =/
inner copper
I think it’s more like brass rather than gold
And the druid set has less of it, more purple
zinc charm
so.... whos yalls most hated character in the game atm
zinc charm
yea
hollow dock
Mhmm. My most hated one is probably....mhmm.
tropic trail
Jaina
tulip sun
I find Genn a little annoying.
inner copper
Why do you have Jaina @tropic trail ?
tropic trail
I'm an orc
inner copper
What is your favorite character @ everyone?
tropic trail
Sylvanas character was written well
hollow dock
Jaina hands down.
tropic trail
Garrosh is best
inner copper
(I put a space in between on purpose)
zealous basalt
Varian
tropic trail
Arthas character is also good
hollow dock
but yea. I don't really hate any lore characters to be honest.
inner copper
Funny... my most hated character is the horde leader but my favorite character is the Alliance leader
zinc charm
most hated is nathalos
favorite Genn
inner copper
ANDUIN IS SMOL BEAN, MUST PROTECT
zinc charm
Arthas as favorite if we count warcraft lore as well
hollow dock
Why do people keep seperating the two
uncut vault
Was Anduin pre-BfA, Sylvanas and Jaina are tied for my top spot now
inner copper
When I saw Anduin’s CGI face, my heart melted
tropic trail
Nah
zinc charm
idk i split them cause some things arent fully explained in wow that is in warcraft
inner copper
I can be a fangirl ok let me be T^T
zinc charm
i dont know how many people claimed blizz made MoP cause kung fu panda was popular
hollow dock
Like what Kil?
And did you know that WC3 actually introduced Pandaria and the Pandaren race?
inner copper
Chen stormstout right?
zinc charm
yup it was my favorite out of the 3
uncut vault
I feel like it’s just me that preferred BfA cinematic Anduin to Lost Honor Anduin
tropic trail
Yeah, Chen was in the raxxar campaign
uncut vault
Eyes are too big and anime for me
hollow dock
it does feel a little to much like Alitta battle angel doesn't it
inner copper
@uncut vault ???
uncut vault
Lordaeron Anduin looked like a kid in his armor, Lost Honor Anduin perfectly fits with the perfect face
too perfect
tropic trail
Anduin let the void Elves in, Anduin is trash
hollow dock
The CGI crosses a tad into the uncanny valley.
inner copper
It’s literally modeled after a real guy’s face
hollow dock
Where-as the in game CGI looked more natural.
We simply don't like CGI anduin as much as in game anduin is all Lunar. You can keep on enjoying him
uncut vault
I like CGI Anduin fine, I just prefer how they did it in the BfA cinematic to Lost Honor
They do tweak the models
Sylvanas is a good example of this, from legion to BfA
spice creek
Imagine if he plays WoW himself. 🤔 That'd throw me for a loop any day.
zinc charm
he looked like a bad arse in that video i watched when he picked up the ashbringer
spice creek
"Oh, look! There I am again!"
zealous basalt
Blingtron 8k when
zinc charm
??
full swanBOT
@zinc charm, This server has restricted usage of commands to: #bot-commands
zealous basalt
Hah
zinc charm
@full swan go away and plot murder with the maid
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zealous basalt
you killed it
zinc charm
@zealous basalt nuh uh
anywho time to get dinner n stuff done. happy to meet all of you guys and thanks so much for the lore knowledge it really helps piece everything together
inner copper
@zinc charm ashbringer???
tropic trail
Lol imagine Varian wielding Ashbringer
inner copper
You mean Shalamayne?
tropic trail
What happened to ashbringer anyway
zinc charm
i guess so my mind is scattered
tropic trail
After the whole absorb sargeras sword thing
zinc charm
the sword his father had
zinc charm
well those are awesome
inner copper
Thanks
zinc charm
the sword his father was using when he died at the gate
inner copper
Shalamayne
zinc charm
the look very similar so i can see where i got cornfoozed
zealous basalt
Dual wield Shalamayne and Ashbringer
tropic trail
The blade of Salamayne reminds me of Thunderfury
zinc charm
when anduin stands up from the kneeling position its the only time he doesnt appear as a boy imo and looks really cool
if i could find the video again id share it
tropic trail
He should keep the helmet on
zinc charm
he looked like his father
tropic trail
At one point there was a fan theory that Anduin is Arthas' son, but that was stupid
hollow dock
that theory hinged entirely on the fact that Anduin had blonde hair
zinc charm
i see the resemblance but nahh
hollow dock
but Llane (His grandpa) and Tiffin (his mom) both have blonde hair
it's like that stupid Jaina is a dreadlord theory
it started out as a joke but people unironically believed it to be true
because of its on the internet it must be true
tropic trail
Strange things live in the internet
zinc charm
then sylvanas finds a way to trick him into wielding whats left of the frostmourne and he gets corrupted
tropic trail
What's left of frostmourne became Icebringer and Frostreaper
zinc charm
dang another thing i didnt know. i thought it was left in icc in pieces
tropic trail
Roll a DK
zinc charm
sad thing is i have one but ive not started it. i mean its made
tulip sun
Taliesin is taking his grand old time on uploading that interview. o.o
tropic trail
Who did he interview again?
tulip sun
Feasel.
strange falcon
blizzzaaaaaaardd
zealous basalt
wat
strange falcon
how the fck did you manage to give me 6 bracers in a row
you know the honorbound chests
or 7th legion for u
zealous basalt
hah
strange falcon
i had 3 chests on 1 character(emissary,invasion+paragon rep)
and 3 on another
and all 6
gave me fuckn bracers
seriously
jade basalt
The mount looks pretty good in-game. Not my Pic but here's its mountspecial animation : https://gfycat.com/AdolescentFlickeringApe
Also it has a little piggy bank on its back https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/282770114724495360/540344112692461570/Wow_2019-01-30_19-34-05.jpg
night swift
Ok thats adorable
The Year of the X store mounts are going strong so far. The Doggo mount is still my fav though
jade basalt
Yeah. And when he jumps to fly he does it so clumsily. Best mount of 2019 so far. I wouldn't want all the 'shop mount' haters to deter them from doing more Chinese New Year mounts.
uncut vault
it is a great mount. I dont even hate shop mounts that much, but it should have been tied to the actual event
hollow dock
can't wait for Year of the Dragon
night swift
I wonder if it’ll be a statue come to life like the other two
It’d probably be a stone cloud serpent of some kind
fervent bloom
dense plover
its pretty standard for the 2nd raid
or wait
the achieve mount is never THAT unique
b/c its an achievement
uncut vault
idk, t1 of legion was pretty unique
only one other mount like it, the grove warden
at the time, the ToT pterrordax was completely unique
still is, in terms of textures
neon finch
Anyone else getting ported to the AV entrance for Alliance if you faction changed to a Zandalari troll?
vague wolf
sorry guys.. ptr is on now?
neon finch
Yeah. You actually do stuff on the new races too
hollow dock
Sometimes it is unique as fuq like the Terradax
but othertimes it's just a recolor mount
vestal otter
awesome Hati is a spirit beast!
night swift
Were people expecting otherwise?
He was a BM hunter pet, makes sense to keep it that way
vestal otter
not really but its nice to know lol
tulip sun
strange falcon
oh hello khamnin
rich phoenix
WOW51900309 still acting up?
jade basalt
That was a pretty good interview overall. Personally I'm really hyped about 8.2/8.2.5. It sounds literally "impossible" as a patch, it feels like there's way, way too much content. So if they manage, it might just redeem BFA in many eyes, and it will probably be the best patch ever released in the history of the game.
uncut vault
Im just hoping they didnt overextend themselves trying to fix community demands and have this insanely huge patch
with the end result of mediocre results on all ends
tulip sun
I love what I'm hearing
uncut vault
the eye of nzoth is now on your head at all times
cant say I prefer this to the floaty one
dense plover
This was what it was supposed to look like
strange falcon
zealous basalt
lol
frigid crater
night swift
Lmao
dense plover
do zandalari druids have a model for the chosen incarnation of elune thing?
strange falcon
i actually do not know
hollow dock
I still laugh at Zandalari praying to Elune
tropic trail
I think in lore Gonk gives them the form or something
inner copper
The travel form I’d say
Since it’s a raptor
Pa’ku would give flight form
Aaaaand idk the rest
strange falcon
kimbul maybe for cat form?
hollow dock
It's all of the loa guys
Each form isgiven to them by a loa
See literally every troll dungeon
dense plover
do we know who gives the moonkin form?
hollow dock
We do
I don't know it off the top of my head but there are "heretical" dinomancers in zandalar you can talk to
dense plover
so i race changed my tauren to zandalari to test
this is the legion flight form
is this the same color trolls use?
tropic trail
Gonk is the loa of shapes, he could've gave all forms, the wardruid in-game can use cat form and she only worships gonk
dense plover
uh
no she doesnt
thats her main loa
but the whole thing about her story is she was able to gain those forms BY worshipping multiple loa
zealous basalt
gonk
dense plover
loti right?
zealous basalt
the raptor?
dense plover
she has a tablet in the loa temple
zealous basalt
the raptor, right?
tropic trail
Ye
dense plover
gonk is the loa of the pack
zealous basalt
isn't he a male
dense plover
not shapes
zealous basalt
Or did the location team had a bad job
dense plover
dude
from the tablet
" Some credit the decision of Gonk to allow the Zandalari the worship of many loa, not just himself. This progressive movement, championed in voice by Loti, aided in the resurgence of druidism as a cultural mainstay of Zandalar"
druidism as a zandalari is following many loa
zealous basalt
I still dont' get how Loti and Raal are still married
tropic trail
Why don't the raptari wardruids like the paku worshipers
dense plover
they argue who is better
zealous basalt
I mean its kinda fun to see Lati and Raal
dense plover
like, arguing whether pepporoni or sausage is better
both are good
but they like to fight because they can
zealous basalt
I like how Raal makes the player to cause mischief
foggy abyss
I really like Loti & Raal
Glad they have their own characters and not just random NPC
Thereis so much lore potential as a Zandalari
A Hunter / Druid that worship Gonk
A Shadow Priest that Worship Bwonsamdi
A warrior that worship Pa'ku man i could make an entire realm full of Zandalari
strange falcon
thats blizzards plan
uncut vault
Gonk grants them the ability to shapeshift, and their raptor form. They worship and ask other loa for the specific forms, but put gonk above them due to the main power they get.
Only place this gets iffy is flight form, where the raptari are shown to disrespect Paku quite a lot
zealous basalt
That hati questline made me tear a lil
night swift
Is it that good?
jade basalt
The issue is the War Druid herself. There's a huge contradiction between her stone tablet description which states that she was the strongest proponent of the many-loa worship movement, and her actual in-game depiction where she's all 'My loa is the only loa' and spits on other loa followers (Paku'ai) and everything. They visibly built the Loti vs Raal / Paku'ai vs Raptari plotline separately from the rest (well, the opposite rather).
jade basalt
Could use those weapons https://twitter.com/Warcraft_KR/status/1089742834293338113
zealous basalt
yes pls
tidal stone
@dense plover they do get a model for incarnation
dense plover
its not in game yet
uncut vault
it is
tidal stone
on the ptr
uncut vault
works fine
same with their resto recolor
look at how t iny this is
new kul tiran run anim
uncut vault
looks fine to me, its a proper run
uncut vault
its actually closer to nightborne
whole sparrow
so ready for zandalar paladins
lucid steeple
8 prizes and not one went to me haha
zealous basalt
|| Oh boy, chance of dragon patch ||
inner copper
khamnin the armored flight form is probably the lvl 70 swift flight form
|| Sylvanas is gonna be the new Lich Queen ||
zealous basalt
If she doesn't you give me all ur gold
inner copper
ok
I'm broke 99.9% of the time I play
enjoy my 3k gold if it doesn't come out
I would have more but I think Alani is still bugged and thus I can't sell the mount for gold
I've had a sky crystal in my inventory for almost 2 months now
jovial coral
What is new with the wows
hollow dock
not much
sonic snow
Anyone know if they're increasing stable size with the different Hati tames in 8.1.5?
hollow dock
There are no plans to increase stable size @sonic snow
sonic snow
Crosses fingers and hopes for a Pet tab like mounts and companions that's accessible at Stable Masters.
tropic trail
The stable is large enough, how much pets do you need
night swift
Are all the hati forms separate pets?
sonic snow
The stable really isn't large enough. Spirit Beasts and unique models alone take up most the space.
I'm a collector. I like the taming challenges, the rares, etc.
night swift
They just upped it for bfa
sonic snow
By 6.
And there are 6 Hati tames. All different models and taking up individual slots.
I'm just saying, as a collector, Hunters don't have enough slots.
night swift
I will admit I wish they were more slots but I collect with the limit in mind
So I don’t just collect so many when I know I’ll only use like 3 or 4 pets
sonic snow
I was a BM hunter and collected all the spirit beasts. I did the Fireland challenges, then we had more wolves (void, fel, fenryr), then the mechanical challenges, and the old raid chrome core hound and hydra monster, and I'm already pushing limits. Now that I am Survival, I need more options lol.
dense plover
i think the hati models are changed by talking to an npc
i dont think all 6 colors are different pets
vestal otter
ehh
sonic snow
Or just give us more stable slots.
strange falcon
@vestal otter now let me take you on a ride through hunter history,originally, you had 1 Active pet and 5 stabled,then you could switch 1 pet from stable every hour,and now you got 50 slots and 5 active
Come a long way hasnt it
vestal otter
i know lol
i played when that was a thing
but we are on BFA now many Hunters got full stables already..
and i dont care how it was before...
and if they keep adding more pets its going to be worst lol..
night swift
I just realized Hati is stuck as a tenacity pet now cause of the pet spec changes
hollow dock
Honestly if they could, BM kinda loses a part of it's identity
vestal otter
spirit beasts should stay BM only forever
sonic snow
What about other exotic species?
night swift
BM only species should stay that way imo
sonic snow
politely disagrees.
But I am thankful for stuff like Fenryr or the new voidish models for regular wolves.
dense plover
but not spirit beasts
night swift
spirit beasts and maybe core hounds
hollow dock
it's more so because Direhorns and the other dinosaurs aren't actually exotics
Like it made sense that the upgraded raptor was exotic
but now-a-days they're not all that unique
gilded forge
no
dense plover
Builds typically go out on Tuesday
Not to mention it’s way too early PST
Earliest builds go down is usually 11am PAT, which is in 3 hours
Builds go out
That might mean you are having issues
Or it crashed
It’s ptr
Nothing is consistent
jade basalt
So at the end of the 8.1.5 Magni questline, you bring MOTHER to the Chamber of Heart so she can find a solution to heal Azeroth. But first she needs to analyze and scan stuff, and it goes :
Magni Bronzebeard says: Now that we've brought ye here, can ye find a way tae heal Azeroth? MOTHER says: Acessing Chamber of Heart data archives. Comprehensive analysis will require approximately 77 cycles. Magni Bronzebeard says: Just fer analysis? How long before we have a plan o'action? MOTHER says: Calculating now. Magni Bronzebeard says: Well, at least it's a start. Thank ye, champion. Ye'll be the first tae know when MOTHER finds an answer.
The "77 cycles" bit is obviously a nod to the 77-days theory from Legion, but I'm thinking it's clearly on purpose. You literally have to wait 77 cycles before she finds the solution and Magni contacts you. So imo, 77 cycles = 77 days.
Since 8.1.5 will probably release late February / early March, 77 days would put 8.2 about 2.5 months later, meaning mid-late May, which is exactly what I predicted (late May).
dense plover
Or the follow up will be released independently
hollow dock
I still think it' sjust poking fun at the "77 days for an update" shtick
uncut vault
We can’t quite tell the individual patch cycle for BfA yet, only semi-accurate prediction we have is for when season 3 starts, assuming it takes the same time as season 1
strange falcon
tropic trail
What happened to the new consecration animation, was it scrapped or is it coming in 8.1.5
zealous basalt
I think it comes with .1.4
strange falcon
the first boss in this new raid
uses it
so it's not scrapped
may just come in another patch
distant folio
It's not the same spell
tranquil steeple
could also have unintentionally been applied to the player paladins' Consecration
distant folio
The new Consecration animation does get its inspiration from the boss's Consecration though, but they're not the same.
But I doubt it's scrapped still, probably for a later patch.
strange falcon
the boss consecration looks very similar
distant folio
Yes.
vestal otter
i hope we get a new build today and maybe Hati toys work..
uncut vault
My bet is that they just wanted to keep it out for progressions sake
It’s different from champions consecration, but not enough that melee wouldn’t be confused by it
That or they scrapped it like the pyroblast anim in Legion
limber mural
Tbh I seriously hate the new consecration now I've seen it
Too vague on bright flooring and looks too much like fire for my liking
jade basalt
It looks great to me from a design perspective, but if it's difficult to see on certain floors that could be an issue.
Lore-wise it is also great, but it doesn't look like it fits the "Consecration" spell. What I mean by that is that it doesn't look like you're consecrating the ground underneath you, like the old spell effect did. It looks more like you're emanating energy and power or something. Again, it looks absolutely great, but I'd tweak it so it's more like the Dazar'alor boss's Consecration (which is kind of similar, but it fits better than the player-spell's effects).
terse patrol
@hollow dock dat Lightbound looking wolf
hollow dock
whatwolf
terse patrol
look in news
hollow dock
those are eyeballs
terse patrol
click the dang link
hollow dock
also that's an alliance wolf
terse patrol
for nooooow >:)
terse patrol
i know but i want yrel and crew to show up :(((
hollow dock
New icons appear to cover Warlords timewalking mounts, and an Alliance Wolf Mount.
Like
it even says so
It's apart of the warlords timewalking
Why try and force it?
tulip sun
Where will they be getting it?
tulip sun
They havvvveeee a dark hound mount they could use first.
Or make other racial mounts for the new races
Vicious war lightforged mount..etc
hollow dock
Oh don't like the alliance getting a horde toy?
zealous basalt
Dont start
uncut vault
20 years next to a dead red dragon did wonders for preserving his flesh in salt water
hollow dock
I really hate that they retconned out that he died 20 years ago
terse patrol
Well, at least we know he won’t be disposed of in 8.2
uncut vault
they didnt retcon that
hollow dock
They had to have
uncut vault
he mentions dying to red dragons
terse patrol
^
uncut vault
you can go talk to him in zuldazar on live if you've completed the raising quests
hollow dock
There's no feasible way that it's in any way believable that he's that intact dead in the ocean.
hollow dock
after having been burned alive.
ionic terrace
mfw some undead queen decides to raise me
terse patrol
Great model though tbh.
uncut vault
just wait for him to open his eyes
zealous basalt
Where are the eyes
zealous basalt
oof
ionic terrace
oh lordy
uncut vault
got thats a nightmare waiting to happen
zealous basalt
oof
ionic terrace
Also new build is out
hollow dock
tulip sun
Des...I could care less if they get a wolf or not. I am just curious how it is obtained...so how about not being like that.
hollow dock
I told you it would be more than likely through PVP and then went to complain about it.
tulip sun
No...I didn't complain about it
zealous basalt
I like the twolf
tulip sun
I was just saying that there are better pvp mounts for the alliance races and their themes. I am not complaining if they get it
3 ARs without atm
ionic terrace
did they add more KT male faces in this build or were they there before
uncut vault
best stuff is always in the comments
ionic terrace
there's 7 of them now
uncut vault
"so happy saurfang finally got his mount!"
ionic terrace
lol
uncut vault
theyve been in the files, just NYI
ionic terrace
ok
hollow dock
NYI?
uncut vault
not yet implemented
hollow dock
ah
tulip sun
Maybe a way similar to the horde horse mount
hollow dock
angerey
zealous basalt
"I have many questions"
hollow dock
anegerey
ionic terrace
aw they fixed the new kt/zand rep bug
zealous basalt
and what was it
zealous basalt
oh the neutral thing
ionic terrace
yea
hollow dock
uncut vault
deathbringer saurfang is probably for a flashback similar to Jaina's in the baine quests
tulip sun
It was added in a recent build
uncut vault
sad points
tulip sun
Hm..
hollow dock
Yes they don't copy paste NPCs
that's how things break
They just add in a new versionof the NPC to work in the scenario
there's like
a hundred different Lich Kings in the DB
tulip sun
Yup
zealous basalt
inb4 fortnite dances
Female is that dance with the hand and the foot on the air
and the male is default dance
hollow dock
both are default dance
terse patrol
@uncut vault kul tiran females pluck their eyebrows i guess
hollow dock
VeRy AnEgErEy
hollow dock
Oh finally
We're getting that sick ass Iron War Wolf
asa mount
Wait is judgement being name changed? @uncut vault
tulip sun
Nice mounts for maghar characters
hollow dock
It's also changing for ret
tranquil steeple
Prot does have Judgement, all pala specs has it.
uncut vault
read the line under avenging wrath in all three
zealous basalt
Judgement
uncut vault
they put them into all three specs because you can view the ability from all three specs via the spellbook
terse patrol
Asphyxiate Lifts the enemy target off the ground, crushing their throat with dark energy and stunning them for 53 sec.
Bloodletting Lunge Leaps towards a target inflicting Physical damage to all enemies within 3 yards. In addition, all targets bleed for an additional Physical damage every 2 sec for 6 sec.
Perhaps the Sanlayn are returning?
hollow dock
also yea Prot does have judgement
tranquil steeple
I mean, yeah.. I saw the change, but the way you worded your answer to Des meant that Prot didn't have Judgement as a spell, when the change to wings only affects which spell is a quaranteed crit for Prot.
uncut vault
Yeah I misspoke
theyre just making it useful for prot, because a heal crit guarantee is far more valuable
tranquil steeple
yeah, I agree
dense plover
Can anyone check on the kul tiran Druid form models
Looks like they may have made some model or skin tweaks
uncut vault
they implemented the change by hair color
uncut vault
yeah, gave them rigging
dense plover
Maybe they did it for zandalari too?
uncut vault
they got rigging last build
dense plover
They don’t have color matching based on hair color tho
Or at least it was borked for cat form
And the incarnation form didn’t work
uncut vault
they do, the change anim is still a bit borked but the skin color change works now
dense plover
It still color fades?
Also is incarnation form implemented?
It wasn’t working last build
uncut vault
it has been 😛 I showed you last week