@dense plover can I get a screenshot of the barrens files?
#beta-ptr-spoilers
uncut vault
dense plover
that makes sense
looks like maybe new bronto mounts
maybe
or just edits to existing ones
hard to tell
dense plover
tons of armor and notifications saw edits
also
[MODIFIED] world/maps/abyssalmaw/abyssalmaw.wdt (lookup: 66353576d1d0aee7, content md5: 8c48c3f8a4aca09d14129cc7d0a79579, FileData ID: 814762)
[MODIFIED] world/maps/abyssalmaw_interior/abyssalmaw_interior.tex (lookup: 56262da99cfd519b, content md5: 6dd94580231752c736ca9871eee340ce, FileData ID: 812922)
[MODIFIED] world/maps/abyssalmaw_interior/abyssalmaw_interior.wdt (```i thought abyssal maw was the cancelled raid from cata
fuck tons of modified files
uncut vault
looks like anduins getting his model changed
dense plover
almost every file in the game saw some change
but that could be nothing
i do not think that is the case
where did you infer that from?
uncut vault
I know m2 is model, waht is phys
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[MODIFIED] creature/anduin3/anduin3.phys (lookup: 7118cb339ca50f27, content md5: 433aaa30f80264ffb9d3851a2c153c60, FileData ID: 2145695)
dense plover
thats a modified
it just means they are moving things around
they arent going back to his old model
oh
changed
its probably something small
like reducing clipping
phys is stuff with physics
like cloaks or dangly bits
the nzoth VO is so good
holy shit
@uncut vault
the quote from nzoth
" Six seats at the high table. Six mouths that hunger. One will consume all others.""
the light thing is separate
that quote is one .ogg
dense plover
"I alone can save you from what is to come" "It grows hungrier, bolder."
"She is not the last, but the first. Drown her and youll see"
"recieve my gift and see all truths before you"
theres a scenario here
i hope to god nzoth is freed
that would be cool af
uncut vault
might be a part of crucible of storms, since we're inside a piece of him
and put on an old god crown in one of the fights
terse patrol
So, we know the Alliance and Horde shipwrecks at Nazjatar right?
Maybe Calia gets "drowned" in the process, and she raises the dead sailors as her first Lightforged Undead?
uncut vault
those incarnation?
tulip sun
What language?
foggy abyss
Lotta people
tulip sun
That is so cool
dense plover
warspear, azsuna, zuldazar, honeydew village, Dalaran (crystalsong), silvermoon, shattrath
tulip sun
The races have their own mages, etc.
tulip sun
So it is in the front gate?
Kinda sad it doesn't include all remaining racial capitals
tulip sun
capitols
tulip sun
WHo recruits?
zealous basalt
foggy abyss
Am i crazy
zealous basalt
"The fall of night reveals her true face, she will bring only ruin
zealous basalt
nani
dense plover
dont fly to thunderbluff
foggy abyss
Btw Regeneratin' is a cast
dense plover
thats fair
tulip sun
Mrpeach, keep us updated on more info
dense plover
otherwise it would be broken in pvp
thats all i got
im stuck
ill have to copy another character
but the world is glitchy af
everything keeps flashing in and out of existence
gonna wait for next build
foggy abyss
Or
zealous basalt
"She is not the last or the first"
foggy abyss
u can delete the current char
foggy abyss
Don't know
dense plover
and reconnect
dense plover
and still deal with everthing flickering
zealous basalt
What about KT?
dense plover
same
zealous basalt
kan someone try them?
foggy abyss
Already did
zealous basalt
how big are dey?
proper palm
Maybe nightborn for the horde
terse patrol
Alliance having unkillable ghost elves. 
terse patrol
Oh good. More reason for people to leave the Alliance. <_>
pulsar iris
bwonsamdi wants warchief head
proper palm
"KILL ME PLEASE"
foggy abyss
Warrior class order hall
dense plover
proper palm
Zandalari troll was so powerfull..
foggy abyss
is not ok
dense plover
dense plover
dense plover
the racial lets you pick the buff
its a permanent toggle
like old warrior stances
proper palm
KEK..
zealous basalt
Can you change after?
proper palm
Yes 😃
foggy abyss
After 25 days
dense plover
its super buggy
foggy abyss
It is
dense plover
i think its supposed to be 30 min
proper palm
Imagine now Zandalari's heal on PVP 😃
zealous basalt
Prolly going to get nerfed for only outside combat
proper palm
Pray for
pulsar iris
also the horde portal to azsuna leads us into nar'thalas
dense plover
you mean the other thing
pulsar iris
the court of farondis is still neutral it seems
night swift
the kul tirans make an old god joke lmao
sudden oak
https://youtu.be/yIZFZuvyTe0?t=69 I think im going to faint
tulip sun
O.o
foggy abyss
Oh my
Fury warrior for Zandalari is amazing
they have some unique animations
The character is jumping with the blades and stab the ennemie it's insane
foggy abyss
Same for prot warrior
ionic terrace
I like how you blurred out the names but didn't do it for the bottom 😛
zealous basalt
Feels bad that Des doesnt get any hyped
jade basalt
More player choice options
https://ptr.wowhead.com/spell=291618/dnt-credit-dont-report-to-nathanos
There's also Report to Nathanos
ionic terrace
oh oops
tulip sun
"The Zandalari and the Horde will stand together...as equals. I am the Queen of Zandalar. And a Queen kneels to no one. Surely you understand."
Talanji text
Big ol middle finger to Sylvanas and her oaths
jade basalt
I've yet to see them next to a tauren
But yeah blood elves look like children next to them
tulip sun
I find it great
jade basalt
Well there you go https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/406282965438562314/532396578779168793/WoWScrnShot_010819_221331.jpg (from TLC)
terse patrol
@uncut vault mfw no zandalari gf
mystic cave
where is the hore portal room located
uncut vault
front gates
dense plover
waiting for next patch so the game is playable
want to actually test stuff
at least we are getting this out of the way in the first build
uncut vault
its all pretty fine now, aside from KT/Zandalari spawn point and mount issues
uncut vault
THink thats your end
dense plover
are you using dx11 or dx12?
im not the only one having the issue
but not everyone is
uncut vault
Dx12, though not intentionally
dense plover
ugh
i do not know what is causing this
i know im not the only one
but nothing seems to fix it
does not happen on live
gives you the same buff as the merry-go-round
bit buggy
is this new?
also, has there always been a portal back at the end of the docks?
i think they may have updated the graphics on the arena
uncut vault
Arenas been there for years and yes there’s been a portal for a while
dense plover
i know now it isnt new
but its definitely HD
or it just looks new because of glitches
apparently my game was rendering a thing weird
and now its stopped
and it looks sad
rollercoaster is new tho
functions the same as the carousel for gameplay purposes
bright mantle
Not really a spoiler, but I thought the Vulpine Familiar was already ingame?
bright mantle
ah, okay
karmic copper
is the ptr for 8.1.5 out now?
foggy abyss
it is
karmic copper
what is the zandalari character screen background?
modern axle
There isn't one yet I believe
jade basalt
jade basalt
"I can't come home... can I."
"No. Not yet. But I know others who have been through this. I believe they can help you."
This probably means Calia.
uncut vault
get ready for proudmoore/menethil relationship 2.0
we all know blizz wont shy away from that parallel
hollow dock
the only menethil out there is Calia aint she?
and she dead?
well undead.
but still
@terse patrol Put me in the "Don't care" gang
terse patrol
I get the feeling he might still have the MK Ultra brainwashing, since he was being transported by ship.
uncut vault
Im betting on it
only now I think Sylvanas' target is Tandred
going after the actual fleet
since we know katherine survives the patch
terse patrol
He’s going to visit Faol and Calia, it seems like. I think the outcome will hinge on those two.
If he ends up getting lightforged, he might be freed of the brainwashing.
I doubt it’ll happen though
Gotta have the drama.
uncut vault
I still hope they dont lightforge existing forsaken
uncut vault
would ruin a lot of the forsaken's story
her existence is due to resurrection independent of normal undeath, I hope we dont get another alleria where she doesnt actually relate to the people shes leading much
hollow dock
"Light Necromancy" is what I've taken to calling it.
She's still undead, just. not filledwith shadow
but with Light
uncut vault
Putting light into normal forsaken and calling it an alliance race would be a big yikes, considering it would nullify most of what we know about undead and their relative incompatability with Light, and mean that forsaken dont actually have a struggle anymore, and can just solve all their problems with a bit of good ol' alliance religion
If we do get a light undead allied race/group, Faol should be the only normal forsaken IMO
terse patrol
I mean, the new N’zoth quotes heavily suggest there will be more of Calia’s kind.
uncut vault
Thats what Im hoping for, if we have to get them as an allied race
hollow dock
where they are just undead. but had light to be used instead of shadow.
uncut vault
raise the bodies of lordaeronians who werent raised as undead
like Uther
offers a unique pre-WoW perspective, doesnt infringe on existing forsaken
hollow dock
It would allow all those paladins to be raised in Light's Hope as well.
terse patrol
I liked the idea of raising Scarlet Crusaders. 8)
terse patrol
I like to ignore that the Risen exist.
terse patrol
That was some of the worst lore in Cataclysm, ughhh.
hollow dock
I don't see what was so bad about it.
Balnazzar still had use for em
sohe raised em
they're now undead hell bent on wiping out other undead.
terse patrol
*blizzard wanted to update the zones but couldnt just let the Scarlets stay dead.
hollow dock
Yes but they didn't do it without explination.
terse patrol
It was dumb. Everything is dreadlords.
hollow dock
Whether you like it or not is something else.
Balnazzar was incontrol of the Scarlet Crusade long before Cata
terse patrol
I won’t be surprised if more dreadlords are in BFA.
hollow dock
it makes perfect sense that after they're wiped out
he would just raise them again
and tell them as their highlord that the Light granted them this chance to do more good in wiping out the undead
The Scarlets aren't necessarily the smartest people
terse patrol
I just want them to either get rid of the Scarlets for good, since they’re Blizzards favorite punching bag, or resolve their story finally.
hollow dock
their story won't be resolved though.
uncut vault
I mean, looks like theyre coming up in 8.1.5 again
hollow dock
they'll always exist as they want to exist: A 'true' crusade
uncut vault
involving dark rangers
hollow dock
are scarlets being risen as dark rangers?
terse patrol
heufhf
uncut vault
Probably not, but theres a map file called Scarlet Halls, Dark Ranger
so probably working with one
terse patrol
I could see Calia and Faol taking up residence in the Monastery.
hollow dock
Nope
terse patrol
in legion?
hollow dock
only went as far as Whitemanes tomb
the rest of the monestary was untouched. There's still a scarlet crusade up there
terse patrol
They said “don’t leave until they’re all dead,”, as far as I recall.
hollow dock
and they didn't wipe out all of the scarlet crusade
We had this clarification during Legion
hollow dock
There's a second part of the monestary that we just don't touch
and that's what's churning out the Crusaders
terse patrol
I guess.
hollow dock
and apparently the ScarletCrusade is the only faction to notonlymaster
but mass employ resurrection
it's kinda hard to wipe them out
terse patrol
Maybe Calia can go there and they kill and raise the remnants of the Crusade, and the Dark Rangers find out about it. 😉
terse patrol
Yadda yadda curing them of insanity via undeath, similar to Whitemane.
hollow dock
tryin to force it as hard as possible huh
jade basalt
Haymaker racial ability https://gfycat.com/LegitimateBouncyFishingcat
tropic trail
Looks like a monk attack
sudden oak
it reminds me of the artifact ability for WW monks tbf
dapper talon
For some reason I see Haymaker as sneaky Doomfist Rocket Punch reference.
wise canopy
Release date? sorry for the question
hollow dock
For what? @wise canopy
wise canopy
8.1.5
hollow dock
there is none so far
We'd imagine it' sgoing to be next month
but it's just that
an imagination
uncut vault
its not a doomfist reference, its a haymaker reference
its the exact same mechanic as Muradin's Haymaker ult in HotS
tulip sun
Hah
This dialogue is great
Is it bad I love this?
A tortollan is horde aligned now o.o
zealous basalt
Falcon punch
hollow dock
@dense plover Xal is freed, but the blade is tied to N'zoth. assuming his voice line is referening to that dreaded blade.
tropic trail
is ptr down? getting disconnected
plain vigil
"Delitha...the Infinite... she was too powerful...
Hush, Grand Magistrix...it will all be over soon.
You must stop her... save our selves... save yourself...
I'll stop her. For all of us. Rest well, Grand Magistrix."
I
Fucking
Callllled
It
Nozdormu raid boss 8.3
I’d admit that I was wrong in that it’s not N’zoth who corrupted him
But he will most likely use Azerite to reverse mortality
uncut vault
Im not sure theyre gonna start hinting at major content like Murozond in a tailor only questline
tulip sun
What if Sylvanas appoints a tauren with a more...dark moral code. Magatha?
As new chieftain while Baine is jailed
tulip sun
Same
sudden oak
I dont think any tauren would approve of magatha except her grimtotem
jade basalt
Nozdormu isn't mentioned anywhere during that questline (so far at least)
(But the Infinite Dragonflight is)
zealous basalt
Probably we are going to see the begginings of our infinites?
uncut vault
we'll probably see hints at it, but not major plot points
since its a profession exclusive questline
zealous basalt
Anyways...how can I check all these quests? Will they be up in time or something?
Ibgotta level my horde again it seems
terse patrol
There really isnt anyone except Magatha that Sylvanas could place in charge of the Tauren.
proven sequoia
Knowing Magatha, the tauren race would probably crumble if Baine died, and she replaced them.
wise canopy
Do you think that the last chapter of the campaign requires you to go and finish Batttle of Dazar Alor?
dense plover
dense plover
found a medallion on a naga
during an invasion
told to give it to collector kojo
he is going to translate the nazja text
followup quest - take a dagger kojo found at atal'gral to a makeshift altar there. The coin itself is orders for the naga to invade and seize artifacts of great power.
UH
the blade is xalatath
RED ALERT
THIS IS NOW A BIG DEAL
tulip sun
Thats random
dense plover
seems Xalatath is related to the 8.2 storyline
i have to go to drustvar to get 1/3 artifacts
i think we are going to get all 3
and then free Xal from the blade
and this will tie in to the dagger realm scenario
i gotta go for a bit
but ill be back to finish this up in a couple hours
sorry.....
uncut vault
thats hilarious
tulip sun
O.o
dense plover
They’ll record it
They’ll probably finish before I get back in 2+ hours
It’s cool af that I found this
@mystic heart update them for me plz
terse patrol
Yeah, I called that.
mystic heart
I'm upload video with all VO's
when i record all questlines
dense plover
Oh you found the questline?
Cool!
Still call dibs on being the guy who discovered this
tulip sun
I wish I had room on my computer to download it v.v
uncut vault
I wont steal credit, I promise 😛
mystic heart
now i going to naga invansion
uncut vault
Im interested to see what the alliance version is
tulip sun
Is it different?
mystic heart
idk
dense plover
My guess is it’s essentially the same since collector kojo is neutral
uncut vault
yes, they dont seem to interact with xalatath at all
uncut vault
the end dialogue doesnt mention it, just mentions that they know the horde player was up to something
mystic heart
main thing thanks for fixing this shit flickering stuff
tulip sun
Makes sense tbh
dense plover
I wanted to play
uncut vault
"Sylvanas sent her champions into that shrine for a reason. She must have discovered something that can shift the war back in her favor."
tulip sun
Since Sylvanas has it IC
terse patrol
Dumb.
mystic heart
terse patrol
So Alliance shadow priests are SOL.
@uncut vault pls tell me this isn’t so. 😭
Because thatd mean most of the story questlines thus far are Hordeside
dense plover
There you go @mystic heart that’s the item
mystic heart
@uncut vault it's done?
uncut vault
you get that buff after placing all three artifacts before Nzoths massive eye
theres a cutscene NYI
and you report back to talanji/whoever on alliance, get a quest to do the raid
have this buff permanently
mystic heart
Nice
zealous basalt
This alone got me intonwow
dense plover
What’s with the weird floating eye on your screen?
proven sequoia
Probably an effect from the buff.
uncut vault
its the gift nzoth gives us
constantly watching us
in the NYI part of the questline you can probably choose to remove it
oak wraith
Did someone mention this text from MOTHER in the upcoming scenario already?
Accessing Chamber of Heart data archives. Comprehensive analysis will require approximately 77 cycles.
... remember the idea that Legion patches were exactly 77 days apart? Blizz is toying with us 😛
dense plover
im glad they arent forgetting MOTHER
they are literally keeping our work in the raid relevant
uncut vault
including the player creating a raid, lol
mystic heart
@dense plover why i can't send u msg
dense plover
accept my friend request
dense plover
well ptr servers keep crashing
mystic heart
yea always 😄
whole cedar
you can do the questline on Alliance 😃
I just had Collector Kojo give me some trash to take a look, it was some sort of dagger. Turtle needs to go on Hoarders, he has a problem.
mystic heart
@whole cedar yea I do it on Alliance :)
dense plover
huh
i cant believe i didnt think to test with a priest
lol, the quest references moana
oooo, and youll be able to choose not to remove the nzoth buff
i wonder if that will have long term consequences
jade basalt
@whole cedar The fact that Xal'atath was just sitting in some tortollan's hands, by the Light.
"I found this thing."
"Must be old, ancient!"
"I'll sell it for 2 apples."
whole cedar
@jade basalt Gamestop realness
dense plover
tbf, it is dormant
tortollans arent very good at magic
and they are arrogant af
so they think they can handle any artifact they find
whole cedar
he did mention the dagger would whisper him every now and then
dense plover
remember, arrogant af
whole cedar
yeah he did dismiss it as an annoyance
dense plover
"im a tortollan, ive been around for 10,000 years, what can a dagger do to me?"
blah blah blah
whole cedar
"look at this dagger, can barely cut this cheese and is super noisy, how do i get rid of it"
terse patrol
Tailoring.
tulip sun
I posted a thread about the horde leaders meeting
I am just so obsessed with that e.e
What will they all say about the situation
Is that part playable yet?
slate ingot
runic verge
dense plover
these are the screenshots from blizzcon right?
white valve
I can't wait to see the brawl version. Yea i know it's mostly fog... but HD Fog
terse patrol
Yeah, plus some of the portals arent being transferred over so I hear.
@uncut vault
uncut vault
I still dunno why theres two separate ways to get to outland
yet no ironforge portal, or sotuhern kalimdor portal for alliance
gilded forge
@uncut vault is this space in Alliance portal room ?
uncut vault
No, its the portrait room in dalaran, empty of portals now
pulsar iris
2 ways to outland?
uncut vault
Can talk to honor hold/thrallmar mage to get to hellfire, or take the consortium portal inside the mage tower/portal room to shattrath
dapper talon
Feels little awkward using Zandalari in Light's Hope Chapel when you mostly worship Loa during your time.
uncut vault
solution, bury rezan there
give him a statue
put his corpse in the big underground window
dense plover
i dont think the chamber of the guardian portals are supposed to be removed
that makes a bunch of optional steps for quests impossible
night swift
And take much longer to complete
dense plover
unless they are going to add the second room and add all of those portals too
which would i would also be okay with
i cant imagine they intend to remove every portal and then not re-add them somewhere
i mean, right now the only portal to northrend is crystalsong - no more wyrmrest portal seems like a major mistake
night swift
Thats his zandalari
dense plover
i think thats just their character
night swift
Not npcs
night swift
Nope
dense plover
also, that wwould be work
night swift
Work for content not even a part of bfa
dense plover
that too
hollow dock
It honestly sounds like a dark souls reference.
dense plover
dont think so
zealous basalt
And let the feast begin
uncut vault
apologies for the quality, but heres the new zanchuli council
looks like each represents a loa, wondering who rata represents
all the others have a clear one minus her, tossup between kimbul, kragwa, and maaaaybe bwonsamdi for the new prelate loa
zealous basalt
A turtle
uncut vault
Lashk is Torga
zealous basalt
What about the rhino
uncut vault
Torcali, or Akunda? Akunda would be Rakera
zealous basalt
Akunda
uncut vault
she was one of his disciples
zealous basalt
The raptor i suppose is the druidess
uncut vault
Loti, yes, she and Raal still have their loa
uncut vault
That'll definitely be my first question once we get an actual lore QnA, who is the prelate loa
tulip sun
@uncut vault Several are Torcali i think
uncut vault
What do you mean?
tulip sun
I felt like the giant dire one and Rata were Torcali worshoppers
uncut vault
Theres no indication Rata is
She was the Will of Rezan
the question is who her loa is now
tulip sun
Their dialogue
That was shown
Lemme find it
@uncut vault Rata and Takers have no Loa
The dire troll is Torcali
Tortollans Torga
Others you know
Rata says she answers to Talanji now
And the dire troll is called the Bulkwark of Torcali
tulip sun
Porter, what group is Lashk aligned with?
uncut vault
you can see torga sitting on the chair beside him
dense plover
tortollan
sudden oak
Yeah it looks like Rakera doesn't represent any loa since she took jakrazets spot in the council
tulip hatch
those are all the leaders from the questline during BFA.
each section did represent a Loa of some kind. but, you are missing Bwonsamdi i think
dense plover
talanji
strange falcon
i know hearthstone is super not-canon,but they really pushed the "shirvallah is the paladin loa" in the most recent card set
so,if she was the will of rezan,
she might be the will of shirvallah now
tulip sun
No, she clearly states she has no Loa and is only working for talanji
foggy marlin
I thought the Tortollans also represented Kimbul
strange falcon
Well,only the small portion of tortollans that were involved in the questline represent kimbul
The others have torga as their loa
steel venture
i mean, yeah.
what we saw with the mushan though is that it cycles out
dense plover
and we are getting faction basilisks
steel venture
so ... yes, it is replacing the basilisk in the brawler's guild
as in, the old basilisk won't be purchasable. probably
zealous basalt
DAS WHY YOU PURCHASE IT NOW
wait
HAH
That's why you have to defeat Ray D. Tear
fortnite default dance
...kill me
zealous basalt
nope
sinful venture
So how do I get onto PTR?
because the regional selection is not there
The only "In development" section I have is Beta
sinful venture
Negetitve
can't find Aditional Services
And there is no selection under "Regional/Account"
only Beta and my live account
hollow dock
OK. Over on the Battle.net account website
right where you see all your purchased games lisence
under the WoW lisence you can sign up for the PTR
sinful venture
I already had an account
but I fixed it, seemed to be an issue with my Battle.net
just done a fresh install
vapid dust
Hey I'm trying to connect to the pre does anyone know a fix for this
sinful venture
Getting the same issue
hollow dock
PTRs down for updates more than likely
foggy marlin
or there may be an issue conflict with your version and the ptr version online
you could try "scan and repair" if you really want to check
yup, ptr realms are still up .. for US
ptr still has regional doesn't it?
omg Zandalari Moonkin is amazeballs!!!!
strange falcon
yes it is,but unfortunately it doesnt beat moose stag form,so my zandalari will be a paladin
sinful venture
I just DLed the Client
hollow dock
Simon Redhands?
foggy marlin
that guy in WoW Mugambala sells "Umm .. weapons" but out of stock, eyes the guy beside him, come back later....
might have been a hotfix
if the forums page says ptr is up and I get that error, I just dbl check that scan and repair in case I messed up the patch d/l
sinful venture
Neg, I scanned and repaired and still the same issue
foggy marlin
I had something similar yesterday, I thought it was login server/cdn server overload but I usually steamroll issues
ruby prawn
When will the patch go live? Did they give any hints?
vestal otter
i think 8.1.5 is going be like March or April
dense plover
no
27th of feb is extremely likely
its tied to the end of the tides of vengeance campaign
which is after defeating jaina in the raid
26th/27th is the last wing of the raid
foggy marlin
February 12th gives enough time to open all the lfr wings of the Battle raid, sounds like a good patch point
vestal otter
im sure mini raid will come out after all wings are open.. since mini raid is 8.1.5..
foggy marlin
so March 5th (probable) or February 26th (unlikely)
night swift
March 5th is more unlikely
foggy marlin
in any case, I'll be there
ruby prawn
And you just need Exalted with the Zandalari to unlock them?
uncut vault
and complete zandalar forever/tides of vengeance war campaign, so 8.0 war campaign too
no voljin requirements, interestingly
so a player could just not see the resolution of the ghuun stuff
strange falcon
well,you unlock the voljin stuff at revered
so unless you're in the rep fever farming mode
you should still happen upon the quests for it
zealous basalt
Revered you say?
strange falcon
yes,voljin stuff is at revered,you need honorbound at exalted to do the 8.1 warcampaign stuff
so basically requirements for zandalari are main faction at exalted,pvp faction at exalted with all questlines done
ez
uncut vault
Rokhan looks nice in his new gear
dense plover
rokhan has new gear?
tulip sun
I don't know
uncut vault
He’s wearing the white Antorus shaman set in the pics
dense plover
Isn’t he in the back wearing his same wooden stuff? Near Thalyssra I think
uncut vault
Nope, can make out the gloves pretty clearly
tulip sun
So
How do people play the recruitment scenario?
Is it possible without having the requirements on live?
zealous basalt
The entrance of Mechagon
strange falcon
i believe they already told us the entrance was there
or did they add this prop to the scrap zone
tropic trail
Wouldn't it be the entrance of the Mechagnome city?
strange falcon
in tiragarde(?)
tropic trail
They added the Gnome at the door
He's not there in live
'I'm worthy' as in.. prerequisite quests before you may enter. Would be something Blizzard will do.
zealous basalt
I mean
I think Porter always spoke about how it looked like a secret scrap gnome city entrance
tropic trail
Either it just opens up at 8.2 or as the Gnome at the entrance makes it seem, you have to prove yourself worthy to enter. Probably by doing some questline... or it's just some random Gnome rambling at a vault door lol
lone marten
Thats not the entrance to Mechagon
Inside of there is a transmitter/ coordinates or something for the mechagon island place
jade basalt
The door will open in 8.2
sudden oak
its gnome related so I dont think a lot of people will bother at all 
dense plover
its an entire zone
i cant imagine not doing that
missing out on an entire faction and an entire storyline
i wonder if its going to be underground or if it will teleport you
uncut vault
based on blizzcon footage, I'd wager the vault is a quick entrance to the zone for alliance
but the zone itself is above and below ground on the island
dense plover
cuz above ground wise, i imagine they will clear some space inside that mountainous area
so from the outside it still looks the same
lone marten
Its not on kul tiras for gadz sake
lone marten
Mhm
lone marten
Nooo thats on a hidden island off Kul'Tiras
dense plover
lone marten
dense plover
at least part of the questline starts at that vault
lone marten
Yeah
dense plover
mechagnome island was going to be an island
like an island expedition
the map is that size
even now
its likely they scrapped it in favor of a full zone
but yes, most of it is probably not on the main continent
uncut vault
can actually see the potential island in the harbormasters office right now
circled one at the bottom
dense plover
that could make sense
maybe we take a tram
i would love a non-teleport transport method
lone marten
Theres not going to be a full zones woth of content on the island really, its meant to be a sort of lead-up towards the dungeon
dense plover
mechagon is a fullzone
it has 2 parts
the junker wastes and mechagon
its likely going to be broken shore sized
but then we also have nazjatar
which so far looks very big
landmass wise, 8.2 is probably larger than 7.3
uncut vault
I'd wager there will be about the amount of content 7.1 had in mechagon, with nazjatar getting the full suramar treatment
lone marten
Mechagon is going to have barely any quest content because literally all of it is a dungeon
uncut vault
we already know its intended to be the main hub, and have a bunch of pvp stuff similar to outlands stuff
lone marten
The inside I mean
dense plover
the entire surface is separate from the dungeon
but i doubt that
i honestly expect the same level of detail as the brokenshore
a full zone centered around a raid/dungeon
except now its a megadungeon
there was a ton of content in 7.2
brokenshore was small
but it was very busy and had lots of stuff
combine that with nazjatar, and 8.2 will be massive
uncut vault
you can see the palace as the big golden thing, rest is an actual zone as far as we know
lone marten
The dungeon is the whole of the city of Mechagon
uncut vault
they call it mechagon city
dense plover
the zone is the city, the dungeon is the palace
dense plover
they made it very clear at blizzcon we were getting one smallish zone, and one very large zone
but 2 full zones
uncut vault
theresa better visual
dense plover
"Nazjatar is going to be the bigger zone of 8.2. Mechagon will be a smaller zone with its focus on the Megadungeon."
"JF: I consider Nazjatar to be a big zone. There is a lot to do. Mechagon is smaller and more compact. There is stuff to do but the area is focused on the Megadungeon."
lone marten
The megadungeon features the whole of the city with the palace as its end boss arena we start the bloody dungeon by sliding down a oil chute from the junker wastesinto the city
dense plover
i dont think we know that
weve only gotten vague details
either way, 8.2 is going to be big
i cant wait to see it on ptr
strange falcon
imo mechagon is like broken shore size
dense plover
thats what i also expect
but it may be somewhat smaller
which is fine
we have what looks to be at least suramar sized in nazjatar
and unlike argus, its being built with flying in mind
tropic trail
@dense plover 'Smallish' is a reference to the size of Gnomes 😂
dense plover
doubtful
tropic trail
I don't mind either way
tulip sun
@dense plover @uncut vault Hey, how do I do the recruitment scenario?
I go to the embassy and have no quests on the PTR
zealous basalt
Hah
tulip sun
Ugh
foggy abyss
Same
harsh wedge
Would the zandalari/kul'tirans be available on the 22 ? (once we do their requirements)
uncut vault
No, 8.1.5 isnt coming until the last week of February at very earliest
rich ocean
It could come before if it wouldnt be obvious people would cry that the "elitists" get the race before others. As i have already seen people complaining it takes all the way to the end of feb before they can "experiance the raid"
dapper talon
That just leads to complaining about timegating unlockables to scheduled date like with Vol'jin questline, but I wouldn't do that noticing how many things still needs to be worked on for Zandalari and Kul'tirans
mystic heart
@uncut vault same shit 😄
zealous basalt
What dance do kul tirans do?
tulip sun
None yet
foggy marlin
the fortnite
zealous basalt
OH NO
hollow dock
The fortnite.
That is their dance. The fortnite.
Not the default dance, not anything else
Just The Fortnite
vapid dust
Help
terse patrol
@hollow dock Is the PTR down?
hollow dock
I have no clue
tulip sun
uncut vault
the alliance take the stage..... in the raid on a horde city
crude tinsel
There been any videos of the kul tiran or zandalari animations? Been looking at YouTube for a few days now and not finding anything but character creation
night swift
I would take those with a grain of salt right now. Their animations might not be done yet
crude tinsel
I just mean I haven't seen anything on their animations. Except zandalari run animation, which to me kind of looks like nelf sprint animation
dense plover
That’s because the bottom half is
They use a mix of troll, nelf, and custom
Kul tiran and custom and human
Lots of it isn’t finished
Attack animations for both are mostly unique
Some overlap
Again, probably unfinished
hollow dock
@night swift Did you actually read that article?
Holy shit.
Talk about taking an inch a nd making a mile out of it
"Saurfang isn't in and so is Baine so clearly the horde is divided" despite the rest of horde leadership following Sylvanas.
and then they want to try and spin that Tyrande marching to Darkshore as the alliance becoming divided?
Holy shit
jade basalt
So there's been another interview with Patrick Burke and Steve Danuser and there's some good stuff in there. The only mixed feeling about it is the bit of Sira/Delaryn, as it's unsure if they will reveal them to be mindcontrolled/influenced now. But all the rest is pretty good, here are the major points :
https://www.polygon.com/2019/1/15/18183772/wow-battle-for-azeroth-alliance-tides-of-vengeance
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We should expect to see [Sira and Delaryn] return, too, he says: “These characters are important to the Night Elf culture.”
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Burke also noted that many Night Elf characters were alive during the time of Queen Azshara (who is set to return in Patch 8.2). The Night Elf presence in the story will likely continue throughout that confrontation.
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The Horde have had a meaty political storyline so far, even including the first major branching storyline choice offered via dialogue in World of Warcraft. So far, the Alliance has yet to see that level of division. However, with the new stories, tensions are brewing.
“When you go through the introductory quest lines on Darkshore, there’s a tense moment between Tyrande and King Anduin,” says Danuser. “That brings to the forefront a lot of feelings that a lot of players felt, like, Anduin, you haven’t been helping us!”
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Both Burke and Danuser repeatedly stressed throughout the course of the interview that the Alliance is not a monolith of views and approaches. However, one character has taken the spotlight and the reigns of action: Anduin, the new high king. “With the death of Varian in Legion and the rise of Anduin to Kinghood, we’ve spent a lot of time on his character and showing his growth,” says Danuser. “He’s a great character, and we wanted to show how he interacts with big figures in the game.”
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The Stormwind house of nobles is still present, and the writers say that there’s a strong chance the entire city of Stormwind isn’t united behind Anduin. “We’ve got to pick and choose who we focus on,” says Burke. “We’re telling so many stories and there are so many things we’re excited to show.”
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That being said, while the Horde story is currently one of deep division, Danuser notes that the Alliance aren’t at each other’s throats. “The Alliance is like a family. Brothers and sisters can disagree, and things can get heated, but there’s still a deep and abiding love and trust there.”
I'm honestly floored that they freaking do remember the House of Nobles. And Danuser pointing out it could be a source of discord ? That's just great.
Hell, unlikely but imagine how could it would be to see the "return" of the Ellerians, Lescovars, or Vanysts (into the story).
Honestly it would make sense. They have a legit reason to be more involved in Stormwindian politics given that the current monarch is half-Ellerian, specially if as Danuser says there's bound to be conflicts between Anduin and others, as shows the Tyrande/Anduin mini-feud in 8.1
It's a bit of a shame how the House of Nobles, the Senate of Ironforge, the Elder Council and other such important organizations were never really relevant. Imagine if they had even 1/10th of the relevance of the Zanchuli Council or the Kul Tiras Houses. They're probably mad jealous of their screen time and importance. 😛
Unrelated, but direhorn feet look a bit lame compared to brutosaur feet https://i.imgur.com/7Nc3Boz.jpg
hollow dock
Can you even really call it a feud?
Like
I feel like everyone is taking the small spat Tyrande had to go to Darkshore
and making it into something a lot larger than it actually is
terse patrol
I could see one of the noble houses turning traitor.
I’d like for Blizzard to actually develop the Kingdom of Stormwind.
zealous basalt
Those nobles again
jade basalt
I specifically said "**mini-**feud" though, so I don't see how I'm making this "a lot larger than it is". 😛
It's probably not a super big deal. At least for now, I guess.
@terse patrol Nooo. I mean, yes, maybe, but I'd rather the Houses get more interesting without one turning evil. They've already done that in Vanilla ! And in Kul Tiras !
terse patrol
Ye I suppose
zealous basalt
Wonder if we are going to have q decision too
jade basalt
"q decision" ?
zealous basalt
Althoigh i would follow anduin
Seriously tho
Considering the shit the House of Nobles did in the past
jade basalt
And given all the propaganda books about different characters that are Alliance-aligned in 8.1.5 (Anduin, Genn and Calia), plus Tyrande's disagreement with Anduin, and what Danuser just said about ("minor") infighting among the Alliance, the decision may be about this.
zealous basalt
They carry with the blood of Anduin's mother
For me they and Onyxia are all responsible
hollow dock
I still don't think that's much grounds for a huge questline tho
Cuz again it feels and realistically is so very minor.
It's not like the noblesof Stormwind can wage a rebel civil war with the entirety of the alliance. Especially since so many follow Anduin.
That's what I mean by making it so much larger than it actually is.
The writers want to make this equal to the horde
and it just isn't
jade basalt
They're not going to wage a rebel civil war with the entirety of the Alliance
hollow dock
That's what's going on with the horde. anything else within the alliance really feels minor at best.
Like the decision for the horde greatly impacts their story.
But the alliance decision is about a minor dispute.
Does anyone else see the inequality in that?
zealous basalt
Or there is somethi g going that we dont know but will erupt
Im by all means okay if they want to do anything with Stormwind
hollow dock
So they'll asspull an event that will do nothing but serveto feel disingenuous =/
zealous basalt
Everything that suddenly happens is an asspull to you, right?
hollow dock
When there is no build up
when there is no reference to it
when there is no reasonf or it to happen SUDDENLY OUT OF THE BLUE
yes
it's an asspull.
they built up to Saurfang.
they built up to that decision
jade basalt
Des you are criticizing imaginary stuff
Literally none of what you said has happened, but you're criticzing it
zealous basalt
I call it paranoia