#beta-ptr-spoilers

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midnight bloom
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

meager warren
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wat

terse patrol
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I CALLED

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IT

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@hollow dock YO

midnight bloom
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

stiff vector
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i love it already

jade basalt
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A giant gnomish city holy Light

strange falcon
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THIS IS THE DARKEST TIMELINE WHERE MECHAGNOMES ARE ACTUALLY A THING

meager warren
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Mechagnomes? murloc

stiff vector
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i mean everyone had to see it coming

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the files were literally called 8xp_junker

midnight bloom
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Honestly, I'd be fine if Junker Gnomes attached with Tinker Class

stiff vector
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this stuff looks gorgeous though

meager warren
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Mechagnomes should just be combined with regular gnomes

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I think that'dmakemore sense than other allieds

midnight bloom
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Yeah, well they wont

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Its like Void Elves

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just a reskin of blood elves

terse patrol
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WHY DOES SHE HAVE KNAIFU

jade basalt
hardy hedge
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Noooo

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My knaifu

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Leave her alone

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SHE IS MY FRIEND

meager warren
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Wot

terse patrol
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GNOME SUPREMACY

meager warren
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CYBERGNOMES FTW

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Oh wait we already have those in normalgnomes

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BUT NO CUSTOMIZATION FOR THEM. thanks bliz

hardy hedge
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Meh

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Most allied races are just customizations

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Like mag'har and dark irons

meager warren
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Ik

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It's stupid

hardy hedge
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WoW saved Blizzcon

north storm
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Crestfall

jade basalt
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Muffinus saved BFA

north storm
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Confirmed

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Yus

sullen dagger
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OK I'M FUCKING BLOWN TO PIECES

dense plover
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guys

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i almost got it right

sullen dagger
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just wtf

dense plover
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"i mean, ive said my prediction for 8.1 raid cinematic intro thing before
big naval battle above the waves between Zandalar and Kul Tiras. Azshara begins to narrate, camera pans down "We have been waiting to claim what is ours. While you were fighting on the surface, we plotted beneath the waves. Now it is time for Nazjatar to Rise!" - island is raised from the sea showing the glorious city of nazjatar made of pearls and azerite and coral. "You have faced my wrath and pride, now you will die!" - patch title plays "Rise of Nazjatar"
this would probably be built up with some kind of 0.5 patch that has us go to a new dungeon and fight some naga and then get upset that the alliancce got something.
eventually we get a quest to do a ship battle"

zealous basalt
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gods

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that was

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too much for me to handle

sullen dagger
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what the actual flying fuck does knaifu waifu being held by sylvannas

zealous basalt
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Well

dense plover
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it isnt xalatath

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its just a dagger

sullen dagger
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ya sure?

zealous basalt
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Remember that knaifu gets out the dagger

jade basalt
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There is so much content

zealous basalt
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So

dense plover
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its the skin from legion that was the similar looking weapon

zealous basalt
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its just a husk

sullen dagger
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still it's weird af

jade basalt
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8.2 has freaking two Argus-type continents

stiff vector
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those zone previews though

dense plover
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it was what they used as the base for the artifact when doing design

sullen dagger
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that isnt an accident

dense plover
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those zones have so much work

stiff vector
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8.1.5 isnt even on ptr yet and they're already showing 8.2 zone previews

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it is very interesting

dense plover
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well considering we have no zone work before 8.2, thats not that surprising

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zone design team needs to do something

stiff vector
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8.1 and 8.1.5 have zone work but sure

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not that much

sullen dagger
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i mean, i dont thinl the ones who did the presentation would exange sylvannas bow for xalatath just cause yes

dense plover
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they mightve

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idk

sullen dagger
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dude

dense plover
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but we shall see

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im just excited

sullen dagger
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thats intended af

dense plover
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motherfucking nazjatar

sullen dagger
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yeah

dense plover
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this is handsdown my favorite expansion

sullen dagger
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and the fish at the end?

dense plover
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i wanted zandalar

sullen dagger
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NY'ALOTHA HERE I COME

dense plover
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we got that

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now we get nazjatar

zealous basalt
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Also

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Mechagon

strange falcon
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the madlads did it

dense plover
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i have nothing else I need

zealous basalt
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is really a second zone?

strange falcon
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no allied race announcements at bcon

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they actually did it

dense plover
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plunder isle or dragon isles would be a plus

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but with these two zones, my lore whore inside is satisfied

tropic trail
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probably they gonna annouce dragon isles

zinc sandal
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No Vulpera/Sethrak? Fabulous. 😌

tropic trail
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with the new raid

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after the raid of azshara thing

dense plover
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i suspect those fish people are going to be an allied race for alliance

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and gilbins for horde

sullen dagger
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the goblin / worgen update is 1000000000000 times better than a new allied race tho

dense plover
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especially since we get new goblin and worgen models

north storm
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No zul'dare ? How dare they !

languid yoke
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my new male worgen <3

strange falcon
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@zinc sandal you prefer mechagnomes to that

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e.e

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because they did show those

zinc sandal
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We befriend them

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They're not an allied race

sullen dagger
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and the female worgen will cater furries forever and ever

strange falcon
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ohoho,they get a dungeon,a zone,a big questline,

dense plover
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mechagnomes might be new customization

strange falcon
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oh boi,you sure are optimistic

dense plover
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like night warriors

rustic mountain
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I want the walking naga to be playable SO bad

dense plover
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or an allied race

zinc sandal
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You mean like Sethrak and Vulpera did?

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🤔

languid yoke
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excuse me furries fall equally for male and female things

jade basalt
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For those still doubting..

strange falcon
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there was no micdrop tho

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the panel ended

languid yoke
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Q&A still coming tho

stiff vector
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2 less question marks

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half-life 3?

languid yoke
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and if they pre-selected the questions, then it might mean something

dense plover
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they dont reveal stuff in QA

sullen dagger
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NYALOTHAAAAAAAAAA

zealous basalt
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GODS

languid yoke
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stuff was revealed in Q&A's before

zealous basalt
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SO WE HAVE 8.2 FOR NAZJATAR

dense plover
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not the blizzcon QnAs

zealous basalt
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AND 8.3 FOR PROBABLY NYALOTHA

stiff vector
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yeah they do use q&a for minor announcements

sullen dagger
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and 8.3 orgrimmar

stiff vector
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even at blizzcon

dense plover
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i dont know if we can go to nyalotha

sullen dagger
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to smash that undead b*tch to pieces

dense plover
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i would rather 8.2 ends with nzoth being freed

sullen dagger
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nyalotha for next xpac, id guess

dense plover
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i swear to god

midnight bloom
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To ALL of the users in this chat, who've I've bad mouth about having another Elven Race? Well I rather have another Elven Race than fucking Junker Gnomes for a Alliance Allied Race.

dense plover
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if thats how 8.2 ends

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blizz should hire me

rustic mountain
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I wonder if Azshara escapes at the end of the raid and comes back maybe a sub-boss before N’Zoth in his raid?

sullen dagger
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hah

dense plover
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i practically wrote their azshara cinematic

stiff vector
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please don't hire him blizzard

dense plover
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plz

night swift
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Fuck elves, give gnomes the lore they need

dense plover
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ill be the coffee boy

zealous basalt
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I WILL PLAY THIS

tropic trail
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@dense plover when we can fly on kul'tiras and zandalar?? 8.1.5 or 8.2?!?

stiff vector
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8.2

tropic trail
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meh

dense plover
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thats how it worked in legion

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thats how its going to work forever

tropic trail
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yea i know

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i'm used to wait

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XD

sullen dagger
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when does the rework comes?

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i think i need to level up a female worgen

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because

zealous basalt
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8.2

sullen dagger
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noice

hardy hedge
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Rip

dense plover
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8.2.5

sullen dagger
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diablo immortal rip level?

zealous basalt
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The blizzcon

sullen dagger
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or lower?

zealous basalt
agile token
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The lore discord is completely under water because of GNOME LORE!!!! and sylvanas having the knife

zealous basalt
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Smash bros music

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ITS TOO MUCH HYPE

sullen dagger
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the knife is very wtf

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i've been blowed to pieces tbh

steel venture
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i'm genuinely screaming

north storm
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Can't we have allied races announced later ?

sullen dagger
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i'd like to know the size of the zones tho

terse patrol
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i like how des disappeared as soon as the junker gnomes were revealed

steel venture
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NAZJATAR IS LOOKING ALL LIKE I HOPED FOR

terse patrol
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reeeee

steel venture
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NAGA LORE NAGA LORE NAGA LORE NAGA LORE NAGA LORE NAGA LORE

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

zealous basalt
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EI

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NILE

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YOU SAW FISH'ZOTH?

steel venture
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YES

dense plover
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crab naga monster

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is best naga

steel venture
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SO ITS

WRAP UP THE FACTION SHIT
NAGA
N'ZOTH.

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dude i love it because she proves my theories

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that naga are fucked up closer to the capital

dense plover
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ofc

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she fucks with them more

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her personal soldiers need to be better at keeping her safe

zealous basalt
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im happy

sullen dagger
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inreeding happens

zealous basalt
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this is too much content

sullen dagger
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:haha:

zealous basalt
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who cares if we don't have more allied races

sullen dagger
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inbreeding*

steel venture
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wheezes

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i mean.... they're nobles .....

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..

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wait

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PAUSE.

zealous basalt
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remember

steel venture
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Azshara's palace has a hatchery.
ARE THEY ACTUALLY TELLING US SHE HAS KIDS?!!

zealous basalt
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I mean

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It wouldn't surprise m--

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DOES SHE MEANS SHE IS A MILF?

steel venture
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yes.

midnight bloom
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Every cross your fingers, your toes and everything else. Lets hope the Junker Gnomes cosmetics are just that cosmetics and an unlockable like the Night Elves new skin/face/eye types - and instead for Gnomes we can just put on some robot parts

zealous basalt
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no

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stfu and gtfo

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i will fite

strange falcon
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stop

zealous basalt
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raises fists

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and you too dafire

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come at me

zinc sandal
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@hollow dock ^

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I know you'll love it.

hollow dock
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I love it

zealous basalt
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u 2 des

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imma fte you all

tranquil steeple
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ping me harder mak

zealous basalt
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chokeslams ping

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@tranquil steeple

tranquil steeple
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🍆

sullen dagger
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👉 👌

leaden garden
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Zandalari are coming with Tides right?

sullen dagger
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i smell love in the air

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get a room you two

zinc sandal
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@leaden garden 8.1.5

tranquil steeple
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eggplanthand say what

zealous basalt
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*throws ping to--

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WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT EMOJI

tranquil steeple
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from a random discord I'm in

zinc sandal
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A hand wrapped around an eggplant

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???

zealous basalt
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...

sullen dagger
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hahahahahahahahahaha

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i love it

junior oyster
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Blizz you confuse me. There's a LF monk boss in 7.1

zinc sandal
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Blizz "Yes, but..."

zealous basalt
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YES BUT

zinc sandal
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Blizz: runs away with your money

zealous basalt
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NOT FOR YOU

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YOU UNGRATEFUL COMMUNITY

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teases with more stuff unavaliable for players

junior oyster
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And Manceroy is a kul tiran mage

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My disappointment is immeasurable and my immersion is ruined

zinc sandal
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😢

tranquil steeple
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"I expected nothing, and was still disappointed"

zealous basalt
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me if i was the head of blizzard

junior oyster
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@tranquil steeple that's the diablo fans

zealous basalt
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"GUVE THEM STUFF THEY CANT GET"

junior oyster
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You think you do but you don't

night swift
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ok first zandalari can be paladins and now a raid boss is a LF draenei pally

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blizzard why

junior oyster
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I'm more upset about the Kul Tiran mage 🤷

uncut vault
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wait, they made mestrah lightforged?

junior oyster
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It's the only class I thought about making a KT

zealous basalt
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Ye

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talk about tease

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I think you all should shut up

night swift
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I wanted to make a lf monk so long ago and they fucking tease me

sullen dagger
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now we have shamans

night swift
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at least they gave kul tirans monk so its fine

junior oyster
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Prefer mage over monk anyday

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No need to attach monk to everything that has a pulse

zealous basalt
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No

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silence

night swift
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Yes

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Everyone could experience tranquility

junior oyster
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What is your problem @zealous basalt. We're blizzard fans. Complaining it's in our nature

zealous basalt
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Too much complain for one day

magic berry
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Anyone know why the ptr is down

wooden topaz
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there is an op racial for kul tirans in pvp

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hooray

night swift
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So 8.1.5 is when stuff is gonna get good again?

zealous basalt
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I mean

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everything is good

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what the heck are you on

sullen dagger
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now it's good

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except alliance side of things, since we go to a raid cause reasons

dense plover
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8.1 is good imo

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it fixes a lot

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8.1.5 fixes even more

night swift
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Its eh for me so far

zealous basalt
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and 8.2?

wooden topaz
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nothing know

sullen dagger
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well, i'm hyper pumped with tne next patches

wooden topaz
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n

sullen dagger
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and the pacing is pretty good

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'noff time to level my worgen from 110-120

zealous basalt
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imagine if we had 8.5

leaden garden
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8.1.5 is gonna be so gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood

night swift
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The only thing from 8.1 I'm gonna do is maybe the warfront

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And the war campaign for the races

terse patrol
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Mechagnomes

midnight bloom
jade basalt
zealous basalt
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who do i believe?

hollow dock
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Believe the what'snext panel

zealous basalt
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BUTH BOTH ARE OFICIAL

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explodes

hardy hedge
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If Zandalari got paladins, Kultirans can get mages!

strange falcon
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nah they went shamans

night swift
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the panel says they cant be mages

strange falcon
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also jaina was an exception since she was trained in dalaran

meager warren
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So... They can be mages?

night swift
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who fucking knows, the panel says no but the website says yes

meager warren
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Rip

night swift
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This page says no

midnight bloom
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Im going to kill as many Junker Gnomes as I can if they become an allied race

tulip sun
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I am so confused xD

junior oyster
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I sure hope the recap is right

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It's right on the Zandalari's account

dense plover
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about?

junior oyster
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That they have 10 classes

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That were mentioned in the panel

dense plover
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who?

junior oyster
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Zandalari

dense plover
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yes

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wait

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10?

junior oyster
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Yep

dense plover
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what was the 10th?

junior oyster
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druid, hunter, mage, monk, paladin, priest, rogue, shaman, warlock, warrior.

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warlock

dense plover
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possibly

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the site didnt have paladin earlier

junior oyster
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Yeah, and it is yet to have warlock

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Which sparks some hope that KT will get mages. Because it's mentioned in the official recap post

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There's a lot of contradictory information going around

hollow dock
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Available classes: druid, hunter, mage, monk, priest, rogue, shaman, warrior

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for kul tirans

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just sayin

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source

junior oyster
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Yeah

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There's so much contradictory stuff going around

hollow dock
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Im going to believe this one

junior oyster
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The actual slide for KT at the panel didn't have mages

hollow dock
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as it's from blizzcons floor

junior oyster
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Me too man

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Me too

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And it would even out all the classes numbers-wise for allied races

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29 combinations for each faction

zealous basalt
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Hax

hollow dock
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We’re also expanding our Timewalking Dungeon offerings to include Warlords of Draenor. You’ll be able to take on Auchindoun, Bloodmaul Slag Mines, Shadowmoon Burial Grounds, Skyreach, Iron Docks, and The Everbloom once more and collect some maximum level rewards and even a couple of new mounts.
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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Our level designers, artists, and PvP designers have been hard at work remastering both Warsong Gulch and Arathi Basin. As you might expect, while we’re making things look better, we’re also working diligently to maintain the spirit of PvP balance of the original battlegrounds.

***For those who have been shy about stepping into a PvP battleground against other players, through the magic of our AI technology currently being used with Islands, you can play through a new brawl against AI opponents.***```
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

junior oyster
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Yes, some good stuff

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Gnome lore

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New lost Gnome City with an 8 boss mythic dungeon like RtK

hollow dock
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Of course, there will also be new rewards to be earned like shirts! So very many shirts. And if you’ve always wanted to ride Bruce around, here’s your chance with the new mount.

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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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CROCODILE MOUNT

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AT LONG LAST

junior oyster
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And a guild exclusive transmog set

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Looks like you're from Warhammer Blood Bowl

hollow dock
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wait like

zealous basalt
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Hey Des

hollow dock
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A guild vendor exclusive mog?

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or a

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faction guild thing

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like

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explain

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I'm not seeingit on the page

zealous basalt
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brawlers guild

junior oyster
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It's up on mmochamp

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Let me get the pic

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Here we go

jade basalt
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People had been asking for that iron wolf forever, and they finally made it a mount

junior oyster
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Yeah

hollow dock
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So far, this is the most disappointing BlizzCon I've ever watched.```

The first comment ever.
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On this WoW page

junior oyster
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XD

hollow dock
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They just ignored all the content we're getting

junior oyster
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I'm not particularly excited at the possibility of junker gnomes as playable

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Makes gnomes even weirder

hollow dock
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They're still just as likely to be playable now as they were three months ago

junior oyster
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Which I didn't know to be possible

hollow dock
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nothings really changed

zealous basalt
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They seem to be likely either

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Allied race or customization

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I hope its the second

junior oyster
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Yeah

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We're in serious need of more core race customisation

meager zodiac
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the face stuff the mechagnomes have could easly be it.

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as a costumization option, of course

zealous basalt
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ALSO GOOGLES

junior oyster
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Also goggles

zealous basalt
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THAT YOU CAN PUT IN AND OUT

junior oyster
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Core races heritage armor for those who missed it

hollow dock
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they revealed all of them?

zealous basalt
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no

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just 2 at time

junior oyster
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No, just gnomes and tauren unfortunately

hollow dock
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Oh just gnomes and tauren

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sadness.

zealous basalt
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Also they revealed worgen and gobbos

hollow dock
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The tauren one has it's totem though!

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So that's neat

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really fucking hope that my night elf heritage armor isn't based off the shitty warfront armor we just got

zealous basalt
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spits drink on des face

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IS THAT A CLOAK

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IN

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THE HERITAGE SET?

hollow dock
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yes they both have cloaks

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actually

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wait

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I think that's the normal gnomregon cloak

jade basalt
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They always reveal them 2 at a time

hollow dock
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isn'tit?

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fromthe vendor

junior oyster
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Which race pairs are next you think

jade basalt
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In fact 8.2 is rather soon for another set of heritage armor, we're getting dwarves & belves in 8.1 already

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So it's nice

junior oyster
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I think forsaken and NE will be aways off

hollow dock
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Forsaken isn't off on the warfront armor :L

junior oyster
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After some really racially focused warfront sets

jovial skiff
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yo who i gotta yeetdab on for tat bee mount????

jade basalt
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The question that is left unanswered is whether a race that gets heritage armor can also get warfront armor, and vice versa

junior oyster
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I think they will

jovial skiff
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I think "eventually" we'll get a heritage armor for ALL races, but probably races that get warfront armor will be later

junior oyster
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They'll just be further down the line

hollow dock
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Oh yea, what news happened for the Bee mount?

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still nothing or?

junior oyster
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I'd love some gothic looking stuff for Worgen

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It's happening

jovial skiff
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they showed it

junior oyster
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Also crabs

hollow dock
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give me

junior oyster
hollow dock
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that greymane armor

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that uh

jovial skiff
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itll be in 8.2

hollow dock
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He has

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in HOTS

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for Worgen

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that's what I want

junior oyster
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Master Greymane

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The puritan looking stuff?

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Agreed

hollow dock
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this one

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from his master skin

junior oyster
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Very Witchfinder looking

hollow dock
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It's gothic. Which is the gilnean theme.

jovial skiff
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yo yeah i love bloodborne

junior oyster
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I'm aware

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It takes a lot of inspiration from Solomon Kane I feel

zealous basalt
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no

junior oyster
jade basalt
clever ember
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Makes sense since we didn’t have dungeon finder or raid finder back in vanilla.

jovial skiff
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So with our new info and things shown what do people think the next allied races will be?
Vulpera still seem obvious, but what about Sethrak? And now we know junkergnomes are going to be in game but will we get them or will it be akin to the nightwarrior cosmetics if anything at all?

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And kul tirans seriously dont get mage???

zealous basalt
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I honestly

jovial skiff
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I didnt intend to make one anyways

zealous basalt
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prefer that we don't get those two

jovial skiff
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Look im not hype about tiny furries or robognomes either
but somethings happening here

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I wasnt interested in snekrak for a while either but they seem ok I guess

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What was that race from the new naga zone they said would be linked with the alliance campaign? I felt like he wanted to say they would be an allied race but wasnt allowed to

zealous basalt
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NO

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IDEA

jovial skiff
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I know its anew race, but I couldnt really tell what they looked like from the image

calm hawk
sudden oak
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I do wonder what will Sylvanas do with xal' ataths prison (the dagger)

meager zodiac
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that race is said to be so low on numbers there is no hope of ever rebuilding their people

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they are probably friendly towards us, but simply not playable due to low numbers

tulip sun
#

Npcs like the regular jinyu

jovial skiff
#

Thanks Obsidian
yeah, thats what he said
during that bit though it sounded like he was edging to say a new allied race
but instead I guess Alliance players will just roll around and kill naga with them

meager zodiac
#

that is what they live for from what they tell us

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unless something changes until then of course, they exist only to kill naga

tulip sun
#

I mean, it is really early. Could change

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Or a future story to save the race

#

Either way, I would play a Jinyu. Even just a regular one

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I also hope they have regular jinyu appear

steel venture
#

I'd much rather have a faction of naga that break away form Azshara for both the Horde and Alliance.

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The crab-naga also proves that their mutations can not only produce legs but produce entirely different body types.

meager zodiac
#

oh i gasped when that was shown

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it looks stunning

tulip sun
#

Ya, I at first thought it was like

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The Makrura queen or something

jade basalt
#

Oh boy Afrasiabi answered my Drust-related questions

zealous basalt
#

oh?

meager warren
#

@meager zodiac the same is true for void elves, their population is so small that they shouldn't be playable but there they are

zealous basalt
#

salty

meager warren
#

salty

jade basalt
#

Waiting for the whole transcript to be released

zealous basalt
#

snore

jovial skiff
#

Ascended Murlocks would be cooler than naga, and have more class options!

zealous basalt
#

ascended murocs

jovial skiff
#

yeah like mwarhahwghagw but bigger and all class options ever ok this would be SO cool and for sure way better than stinky high elves

zealous basalt
#

yes

tulip sun
#

Jinyu are a cool race

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And now we get deep sea jinyu

dense plover
#

tjpse arent jinyu

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theyre onkoan

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obviously related

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but if you look, they use art in that image

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while the other 3 use models

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they are going to have unique models

#

its not closed

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its gone

#

maybe this is part of the removing the spirit from the blade thing?

#

and void elf xal?

jade basalt
#

Actually nevermind

#

Looks like it's just how it looks on the other side

hardy hedge
#

So are we gonna talk about Sylvanas wielding Xal'Atath

jovial skiff
#

nah

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well, yah

hardy hedge
calm hawk
#

she gonna class change to priest?

hardy hedge
#

Hunters can use daggers!

calm hawk
#

hunters could also wield Doomhammer

crimson wasp
#

Bring back Hunter axes

jade basalt
junior oyster
#

And warlocks for Zandalari

#

What a dumpster fire of mixed messages

uncut vault
#

more likely the blizzcon slides/that recap was written just before finalization

#

what a weird two classes though

junior oyster
#

I'd rather they not tack on monk to anything that moves and just give the people what they want

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Or just give both in addition to monks

#

The more the merrier

uncut vault
#

I mean, Id rather have both, but yeah, they should have those two classes over monks

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especially considering zandalari doesnt need the tank or healer in their roster like maghar did

junior oyster
#

Hopefully community feedback will be considered (yeah right) and they'll add both back as options

uncut vault
#

got 3 tanks and 4/5 healers without monks

zealous basalt
#

The normal wow channel

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Has an abrupt case

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Of stupidity

junior oyster
#

I thought that was par for the course?

jade basalt
#

Huh, regarding the tauren & gnome heritage armor questlines

They said the questlines would be about tauren consulting the spirit walkers about a strange darkness in Thunder Bluff, and gnomes return to gnomeregan to 'shoot hundreds and hundreds of troggs while flying in a space ship."

terse patrol
#

i just want gnomeregan sadcat @jade basalt

jade basalt
#

You get Mechagon instead ! It's basically Gnomeregan but 10 times better

uncut vault
#

okay but is it actually reclaiming gnomeregan

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or just "oops! still troggs!"

terse patrol
#

Ye except mechagon is open to Horde too

#

Gnomes can’t have their own stuff

#

They gotta share

#

@jade basalt where are they answering all this stuff

uncut vault
#

hes probably in an interview with the subreddit

cursive trench
#

It's from the what's next panel here

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@terse patrol

jade basalt
#

Ya

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In r/wow's interview with Ion, someone brought up the issue with Alliance never getting to know Uldir.

For Crucible, he said there will be an in-game questline that these players of both factions and it's a somewhat different story depending on which faction you are to investigate and discover the mysteries and the threats that lurk beneath the shrine of the storms that will put the raid in full context for both sides.

uncut vault
#

Im wondering if that means xalatath or something we havent seen yet

signal hull
#

Sylvanas holding Xal'atath??

jovial coral
#

Looking at that thumbnail of ion I can get the sense if what he'll look like when he's old

steel venture
#

It's just "Atath" now.

#

Remember, Xal is free.

#

She will be released in 8.1.

hollow dock
#

so it's an ogre name thing

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Xal is one bit, Atath is another

strange falcon
#

clearly

hardy hedge
#

@signal hull Yes she is

#

Devs in Blizzcon said to pay attention to the image because "Lore fans will find something"

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And I think they straight up mentioned her but I dont remember where

strange falcon
#

the biggest detail is that the blade is missing the moving eye

hardy hedge
#

The blade always had the moving eye on the other side

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It misses it because thats the base one

midnight bloom
#

Base one did have an eye I believe.

#

Haven't touched my Shadow Priest in a dogs age

jade basalt
zealous basalt
#

Any important stuff?

tulip sun
#

Yes

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Watch

zealous basalt
#

:T

tulip sun
#

Fine

#

Lazy.

#

Sethraliss is confirmed to have a real like, huge snake form.

#

and she died fighting Mythrax during the Troll-Aqir wars.

#

and the temple is also a city

#

ARs will come in the future

#

In short:
Animations make or break allied races.
They wont all be just stuff like HMT/LFD.
There Will be more.

#

Alex agrees with KT mages, but some don't

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Loa are not permanently dead, not even Shadra

dense plover
#

thats not true

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if you can corrupt/trap and destroy their spirit, they can be killed forever

tulip sun
#

-flails arm at the dev-

#

He said it, not me

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THE CHOICE BETWEEN SAURFANG/SYLVANAS IS IMPORTANT

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Said by Alex

sudden pollen
#

we killed ursoc's spirit after it was corrupted in EN and he shows up at the end purified.
plus, we've killed shadra several times previously.

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just not her spirit tho

dense plover
#

we kill his body

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not his spirit

#

shadra's spirit was absorbed and destroyed

#

thats the difference

tulip sun
#

He said Yazma just talks tough

#

and he iss aying there are two narratives

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Loyalists/Saurfang Noobs

tropic trail
#

That's not correct MrPeach.

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Shadra was consumed by Yazma, yes. This still doesn't destroy loa spirits permanently. This is exactly what the Drakkari did back in Wrath, they consumed all their loa to empower themselves (in fact there's a book saying this is what Zul drew inspiration from, he directly witnessed the Drakkari consuming their gods), and yet their spirits still lived on.

dense plover
#

hmmmmm

tropic trail
#

Rhunok for example, his "eternal spirit" lives on.

dense plover
#

i dont know if he can come back though

tropic trail
#

Tharon'ja returned in MoP, summoned by the Zandalari, even after he was consumed in Wrath

dense plover
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

its definitely possible to kill a wild god

#

at least i thought so

tropic trail
#

I'm not even sure about that. Malorne, Cenarius, Aviana, all were killed, but they returned still. Ursoc too even after he was corrupted by the Nightmare and the Dream was corrupted too !

dense plover
#

i mean

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wasnt there that whole thing with the yulon?

tropic trail
#

Yu-Lon can reincarnate

dense plover
#

and she has to have a new body or she dies forever right?

tropic trail
#

It's never said that she could die forever, all we know is that after her death she reincarnates through new statues. May be just a choice or maybe the Celestials aren't tied to the Dream, all is plausible. Torga too reincarnates... into a baby turtle... which is funny.

#

But yeah Afrasiabi isn't wrong when he says that. 😛

tulip sun
#

Alex is a cool dude

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That video was good

jade basalt
#

He almost messed up at the beginning with the troll/Old God thing (almost implied they came before the Old Gods), but he clarified that he was referring to the Aqir-Troll wars.

#

3/4 of these questions were mine btw. 😛 Glad he answered the Drust one.

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The Thros bit was very confusing though.. apparently Thros is related to the Dream/Nightmare. That is literally never even remotely suggested in-game or anywhere. Jesse (the Lost Codex guy who asked the questions) was just as confused.

tulip sun
#

Yup

uncut vault
#

seems like a bit of a mid-point between the dream and shadowlands

tulip sun
#

I need more QnAs xD

#

Good info

zealous basalt
#

Saurfang noobs

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Jek

jade basalt
#

Wowhead: What's going on with Sylvanas and Xal'atath?

Morgan: I don't want to spoil anything but as you also saw there is N'zoth on the horizon in the distant future so I don't want to spoil anything or talk to much about it. It's one of the things that I'm excited for people to see how that story unfolds.

uncut vault
#

10 bucks says theyre going to trick us into thinking shes corrupted but she uses the empty dagger to trap nzoth

sullen dagger
#

that would be top kek

hardy hedge
#

She is going to use Old God powers but will not be corrupted

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Ala Garrosh

uncut vault
#

assuming shes even using them like garrosh did, and not just using the dagger as a vessel

zealous basalt
#

I mean

hardy hedge
#

She is going to use it to beat N'Zoth and then to crush Saurfang's revolution

zealous basalt
#

Sylvanas telling Anduin

#

To fuck off or destroy the world with nzoth essence

hardy hedge
#

At the hour of her third death she will come to us

sullen dagger
#

She uses the void

#

Period

#

Thats bad

uncut vault
#

not by the alliance's standards

sullen dagger
#

Yes by my standards

calm hawk
#

As a void elf leveling I did find myself in many ironic situations where I was killing someone just because they used void magic

signal hull
#

Oh rude

hardy hedge
#

Sylvanas doesnt need to use the Void to be evil

#

She already is

signal hull
#

Sylvanas isn't evil

#

i love Sylvie eventhough i'm ally

hardy hedge
#

Sylvanas isnt bad. But she is bad

signal hull
#

She knows what to do

hardy hedge
night swift
#

Sure she does

signal hull
#

she burned the tree for a reason

night swift
#

That wasn’t her plan originally

hardy hedge
#

Oh boy here we goGWmiyanoPeek

signal hull
#

maybe to stop some eonar thing

night swift
#

What

hardy hedge
night swift
#

I

#

Can’t even

signal hull
#

titans aren't that good

hardy hedge
signal hull
#

@night swift who's plan was it?

night swift
#

Dafuq do titans have to do with a her burning a world tree

signal hull
#

Eonar has a relation with world trees

night swift
#

She was originally gonna just capture the tree for the horde, but when she learned that capturing the tree wouldnt stop the night elves she just said “fuck it burn it”

terse patrol
#

crawls from their cellar, eyes glinting red in the dark Someone mentioned Sylvanas in a good light.

uncut vault
#

I mean, her reason for burning the tree was that saurfang messed up her plans

#

and she improvised

night swift
#

She wanted to cause infighting between the alliance leaders

hardy hedge
#

The whole reason for the invasion was nonsensical

#

They attacked because reasons

sullen dagger
#

jock did

hardy hedge
#

Because they feared the Alliance would attack them despite having the most Peacemongering king since its formation

calm hawk
#

The old god minion from the nightmare raid told us we needed to burn all the trees to release the old gods so someone had to do it. It just happens to be sylvanas

signal hull
#

🤔🤔

calm hawk
#

we still got a couple world trees we need to burn

signal hull
#

I'll burn them

night swift
#

Why would we listen to an old god

hardy hedge
#

Because they ask nicely priest

signal hull
#

And who told voljin to make her warchief

#

I think they had a talk on her ship

#

when she evacuated em

tulip sun
#

Can we appreciate how awesome Tyrande and her wondrous owl look in the cinematic

#

That glow e.e

signal hull
#

they are hot

hardy hedge
#

Inb4

#

8.2

night swift
#

We don’t know who told voljin, not even the Loa know

hardy hedge
#

Nelves lost Darkshore

signal hull
zealous basalt
#

Do we rise it?

uncut vault
#

No, we go out with the remnants of our fleets (meaning something is happening to the kul tirans) out to a mysterious crack in the sea

#

which goes badly, and we're shipwrecked in nazjatar, which is recently uncovered, and surrounded by waterfalls

night swift
#

The kul tiran recruitment might explain the fleet situation

#

Or lead up to it

uncut vault
#

more likely whatever happens with derek, Id say

tulip sun
#

And we get aid and aid the locals

#

The alliance with deep sea jinyu

#

The horde save slaves including Makrura, sea giants and gilgoblins

steel venture
#

unnatural waterfalls too btw

#

they go off into nothing and naga can swim through them like regular rivers

signal hull
#

Waterfalls 😍😍

night swift
#

I wonder if Mechagon will help us with the Mekkatorque situation

#

Since he’s gonna be an icecube

tulip sun
#

That is my prediction

signal hull
#

Mekkatorque must die

tulip sun
#

They have the tech to save him

signal hull
#

they killed poor Rastakhan

night swift
#

They help Mekkatorque, then maybe join the alliance

signal hull
#

He only defended his kingdom and ye they'll join allys

night swift
#

🤔

hardy hedge
#

Inb4 they join the Horde

signal hull
#

since we kill their king in a dung

night swift
#

I doubt that

#

Its a neutral dungeon though

signal hull
#

Ye

night swift
#

Both sides are responsible for killing the king

signal hull
#

maybe their king is a baddie

#

and we had to kill em

#

cuz a lot of technology and mechanism can make u fool

#

my speciality is building mechanism and stability and damn professors are a mess

#

So i think we're goin to release them from their king

#

by killing em

zealous basalt
#

Honestly

#

I would like

#

If mekkatorque becomes mechagnome

jovial skiff
#

Is mekkatorque single? He should get a goblin gf

hollow granite
#

Tfw no gothblin gf

crimson wasp
#

disappointed

strange falcon
hardy hedge
zealous basalt
tulip sun
#

Yup

#

A huge tease at a thrall return

zealous basalt
#

Here 2

#

<@&299347348847329281>

frigid crater
#

Thank you

terse patrol
#

@zealous basalt Wheres that at

zealous basalt
#

Ion pls

tulip sun
#

I loved that

#

And Alex's response to the Gallywix question

tropic trail
#

So when actually is the interview? I only see times such as “soon” and “this afternoon”

tulip sun
#

You mean QnA?...

#

The official one?

tropic trail
#

The wowhead interview

tulip sun
#

Oh

#

It was already out

#

One AR question

tropic trail
#

Well 1 hour ago they said they’d be interviewing them “this afternoon” on Twitter. So I’m...confused

tulip sun
#

Maybe a interview with different People? Idk

tropic trail
tulip sun
#

2 hours now

#

And that interview was posted at 4

#

Huh

#

Maybe a new one

#

We will see

tropic trail
#

Okay, 2 hours. I took that screenshot a few minutes ago. I was hoping someone here would have an answer since it is the wowhead discord

tulip sun
#

We should find out soon

#

Hopefully it is with lore devs

languid yoke
#

that's a new tweet indeed from wowhead

#

so it might be another interview

tropic trail
#

Looks like it, since they tweeted asking for questions after the first interview

#

Not very many people have commented on it unlike the first one

tulip sun
#

Oh my vod

#

POST IT on AT disc

#

Ar

uncut vault
#

their interview is with ion, nice

meager warren
#

Tfw they still give us nothing we don't already know.

tulip sun
#

But we don't know what they are asking yet e.e

jade basalt
#

Model Updates
People really want the glowing eye options for female Worgen—any plans to have that customization?

This option is planned, it just wasn’t shown in the presentation.
They would like to interate models even further. They’re happy the permanent scowl on Worgen Females are gone, but the models still have a chihuahua look, and they want more facial customization options.
zealous basalt
#

So

#

First Aszhara then Nyalotha?

jade basalt
#

Yes, the Tauren Heritage Armor cloak slot is a totem. Blizzard can get creative when designing Heritage Armor for a specific race, across armor types.

They finally listened. The totem is the Cloak, not the Head or Chest or whatever nonsense.

dense plover
#

Fuck me. I thought the patch was going to be Rise of Nazjatar

zealous basalt
#

What about Ashenvale getting an update now that Warsong Gulch has one? Slippery slope!

#

I mean Peach

dense plover
#

And that’s literally what they are playing with for Rise of Azshara

#

Blizz

#

Plz

zealous basalt
#

the name doesnt seem to be final final

#

For Allied Races in general, it comes down to timing. Is a particular Allied Race endearing enough to players? Does it make sense in the story to add them as player characters.

#

Idk

#

You tell me blizz

dense plover
#

I predicted Rise of Nazjatar like 3 months ago

#

And I practically described the intro that was described on stage

#

When I said I wish I was making this shit up, apparently I was

#

Secretly, blizz is just watching this channel and taking all the ideas they like

uncut vault
#

ayy, I got my undead elf question answered

#

"As for Undead skins, it’s a cool space to explore, and we have seen risen humans before. This is a mix of where the story goes in BFA. If these types of characters do exist, then are they standard members of the Horde, are they player characters?"

#

thats a solid maybe

jade basalt
#

Ion made a special note that “The term, the name…Rise of Azshara…not just a turn of phrase. Which may have some hints as to what we’re seeing here [in Nazjatar]…”

hollow dock
#

So give the horde night elf skins but not make lore to get alliance high elves?

zealous basalt
#

It’s a motion sickness simulator. First-person POV. Enjoy. Or don’t.

#

kden

uncut vault
#

des, want me to message you something?

#

concerning helfs

zealous basalt
#

WoW VR when

hollow dock
#

If its that theyr blood elves, save it.

zealous basalt
#

No real specifics on how the Heart of Azeroth could get “beefier.” Something they are working through, several potential design options. They’ll get into more details as Rise of Azshara gets closer.

tulip sun
#

No...its uhm

#

Much worse than that kinda

#

In regards to BfA

#

After though? Perhaps nice.

zealous basalt
#

I mean Des

tulip sun
#

Summary:

zealous basalt
#

If they planned to do all the way up to 8.3 without adding high elves

tulip sun
#

Someone personally went to Ion and talked.

zealous basalt
#

It's a big Ripperoni

tulip sun
#

He said they won't happen in BfA

#

BUt that does not mean they will never happen

#

That is the gist

#

@zealous basalt Wanna repost what I said? I think Des has me blocked still

zealous basalt
#

Des

#

Dees

hollow dock
#

What

zealous basalt
#

Someone personally went to Ion and talked, He said they won't happen in BfA, BUt that does not mean they will never happen, That is the gist

hollow dock
#

Yea Port just pm'd me about it

zealous basalt
#

Repost from Kham

#

Which is what Kham does

tulip sun
#

Your damn right I do 😛

#

Spread news

zealous basalt
#

So are there chances for Challenging stuff?

tulip sun
#

Idk

#

I focus on lore stuff

zealous basalt
#

_T

hollow dock
#

Which Ill tell you both what I told him: I think its great. But it doesnt help to dispell the idea that they prefer and show bias toward the horde and are constantly disengenuous to the alliance.

#

Just needs those few more steps to break that.

zealous basalt
#

No current plans, but it could make sense in the future. The Antorus trinket was a good example of a Legion legendary that worked differently from the rest in the expansion.

#

You mean a low af chance to get and being arcanocrystal 2.0 in drugs?

hollow dock
#

As while when the alliance asks for something, they cant get it. Horde asks for it, Blizz gives them the big ol' playful wink old cartoons would when something is absolutely happening.

#

(Alliance wanting high elves, no join the horde.

Horde wants night elves, they most likely will get their subrace and undead version of them. Which is just their dks with red eyes.)

zealous basalt
#

Well tbh Des I see the Alliance really split in these terms of what we want and what not

#

Alliance players that is

hollow dock
#

The alliance wants high elves. How we want them is split

zealous basalt
#

Des

hollow dock
#

But caring now on the nitpick of what we want

zealous basalt
#

Don't generalzie

hollow dock
#

Is a bullshit excuse

zealous basalt
#

Generalize*

#

I don't want them

hollow dock
#

And you know it

#

Horde doesnt all want night elves either

#

Yet it was ok to generalize them

#

The inherit hypocrisy is just excusable for one, not the other.

zealous basalt
#

Do you really know if they don't all want undead elf skins?

hollow dock
#

A hell of a lot smaller population speaks out against them than for. Which is the same for high elves on the other side mak

#

Ive been in this game since the start

#

If generalizing for one is bad, the other shouldnt grt it. Or if its fine for one, then the other gets it. That is equality and unbiased looms.

#

Looks*

uncut vault
#

btw, the question wasnt specifically about undead horde night elves

#

it was just about the skin tints, blood elves included

hollow dock
#

Those are very much the newest addition so theyre the one that Ill tag in the most.

tulip sun
#

I would love thalassian ones

#

But...i don't know how that would work

#

They can't be skin options for regular forsaken

zealous basalt
#

But you tell me Des, that you want them to do more Lore in BfA,when it is probably already stablished, to add the High elves somehow, wouldn't it be just a shoehorn like the void elves at the end of Legion?

hollow dock
#

No

#

Never

#

9nce

#

Have I asked for that

#

Each time I ever suggest it, its always after BFA

zealous basalt
#

Shoehorn into the Lore that is already existing?

hollow dock
#

Thats not what shoehorning is

winged heron
#

it would be something to one up the imagined horde adversary so he would love that

#

lol

hollow dock
#

Shoehorning is when you add it into somewhere it shouldnt exist in naturally. Making new lore for a race in a different expansion is not shoehorning

#

Literally we do that for the night elves in the next patch

winged heron
#

spoilers are fun

zealous basalt
#

Welcome to Spoiler chat

winged heron
#

yep everytime
bye lol

hollow dock
#

Like. Void elves and maghar. Those are showhorned races

#

They are literally tossed in left field.

#

Just to exist

zealous basalt
#

And to be useful in the next xpac, like the void elves are, Des

tulip sun
#

Maghar are shoehorned?

#

But they arnt new

hollow dock
#

And why cant the void elves get the same treatment? Again, why is it OK for one to get it

#

But not the other

tulip sun
#

They are pre existing

hollow dock
#

High. Not void.

tulip sun
#

I feel like you are contradicting yourself. If a race is pre.existing and new lore.is added how is it shoehorned

hollow dock
#

Kham

#

It was shoehorned

#

Into bfa

zealous basalt
#

Usefulness, maybe? I don't know what Blizzard thinks when modeling a new expac

hollow dock
#

It had no lead in

#

It was left field

#

Tossed into bfa

#

To exist

#

That is what shoehorning is

zealous basalt
#

I don't get why are you pissed for the undead skins when Alliance is receiving new lore for one of the forgotten races that they never do

tulip sun
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It isn't even confirmed

zealous basalt
hollow dock
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Its existence is not the only thing thats shoehorned.

Void elves rsndomly tossed in to existence and relevance end of legion

Maghar suddenly tossed into the horde and bfa

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No lead up.

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Left field toss in

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That is what shoehorning is

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I am angry because the issues for having undead nelves is the same reason we couldnt have helves. To similar of a model and its eyes arent enough a reason.

zealous basalt
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But what about those

tulip sun
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I feel like forsaken are different enough. Depends.on how.it would be delivered.

zealous basalt
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that got what they want?

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The Mecha-gnomes?

tulip sun
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I don't think they'd add them anyway to be honest

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I think they'd do thalassian elves

zealous basalt
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Like Port said one day

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Don't they have the right to ask for content?

hollow dock
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They do. Im not saying they arent

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What I am angry at is that the horde keeps getting what it wants while the alliance gets the disengenuous statements and half-assed treatment

zealous basalt
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Because you seem to talk as if Alliance doesn't receives anything, but they do receive a big as hell zone with gnome lore and probably saving their leader

hollow dock
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For 14 years bith sides asked for something. Gues which side got that thing they asked for Mak

tulip sun
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I don't think possibly getting undead so Kind for.other races as.getting everything we want.

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Each side gets great.stuff

zealous basalt
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It's not confirmed yet

jade basalt
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Something to keep in mind is that the main races we met with in Legion, became allied races at the end of Legion, before moving onto the next expansion.

This is probably going to be the same thing for BFA.

zealous basalt
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And for all we know

hollow dock
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Not void elves

zealous basalt
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Nyalotha could be the second to last patch

hollow dock
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Which is my point

zealous basalt
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And I hope it is

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And have a final patch dedicated to the climax of the Alliance v Horde fight

hollow dock
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I dont want that. I never want to see nyalotha in game

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It will never live up to my expectations nor have the freedom a book would give it

zealous basalt
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You say that but there is a bunch of people out there that want to see it

hollow dock
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Great for them

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Didnt say they didnt want to

zealous basalt
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And it seems that Horde is losing another warchief too

hollow dock
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Why do people keep saying this

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Sylvanas has done nothing bad to the horde

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Unlike garrosh

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Saurfang is a legitimate trailer

zealous basalt
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Because they kinda said it that there will be "a post looking for a warchief" soon?

hollow dock
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Traitor*

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It was made as a joke

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To a joke question

uncut vault
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thats also the thing people liked Thrall for, so of course theyd mention it when thats what Metzen kept referring to him as

zealous basalt
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When they talk of the rift

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Is that Nazjatar?

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Ah nvm

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Wonder if Xal will have something to do with 8.2 stuff

tulip sun
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I am still confused at if implemented

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How the skins would work

zealous basalt
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Probably just that

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A skin

tulip sun
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For what though?

zealous basalt
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For the undead

tulip sun
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The hunched over bone poking undead? How would that work for thalassian or kaldorei undead

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It wouldn't really

zealous basalt
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Its a diff skin

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Like

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An entirely new skin

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Just like an illusion

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its a skin

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you go to the barbershop

tulip sun
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Elves use different skeletons and such thiufg

zealous basalt
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"ei mate, put me that skin"

tulip sun
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I don't think it would work

zealous basalt
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...Kham

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They take

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They would be different races on the same thing

tulip sun
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That is like if they added the huge Jul tiran and thin ones into one race

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I don't know if that is possible

zealous basalt
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blinks

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Coin of lots of faces

uncut vault
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I mean, in the case of undead blood elves, probably just a skin on blood elves

zealous basalt
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hax

tulip sun
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That one I don't support

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That is like adding undead kaldorei to night elves

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Then you have undead druids and everything

uncut vault
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I mean, undead wielding the light isnt as much of a canon problem anymore, only class with issues would be paladins

zealous basalt
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Bartholomew

tulip sun
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Racials and the whole starting zone would be awkward.

zealous basalt
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idk

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Well

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tbh

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Starting zones will feel awkward for mechagnomes

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Honestly tho

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Im quite hyped for Mechagon

tulip sun
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Same

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It was such a good surprise

zealous basalt
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I think the Junker Gnome community would be in bliss