and good.
#beta-ptr-spoilers
hollow dock
jade basalt
Apparently there were Horde people with them
hollow dock
they'll be forced into the horde and we get to wipe them out
steel venture
they're very obviously going to be horde.
they were literally FLAGGED as horde from the start of BFA
zealous basalt
And when do sneks join alliance
steel venture
which is probably a future racial mount
hollow dock
Nah the war mounts are reserved for PVP
like
the string is directed to winning rated PVP stuff @steel venture
jovial skiff
Purge squad??? Hahahah!
Where do I sign up??
hollow dock
which is still a racial mount, but just for pvp
steel venture
it is DIEB.
it's
an inside joke between my rp friends lmao
because "fuck" translates to "dieb" in game.
zealous basalt
In what language lol
steel venture
darnassian and thalassian
zealous basalt
Oof
hollow dock
but yea
vulpera are going horde. 100%
we kinda figured but people are just slow on the intake for that
hollow dock
alliance would have to get snakes
there's no other race in existence right now that possibly could go alliance to match the vulpera
hollow dock
Unless 8.2 shoe-horns in a brand new race specifically to pair the vulpera to go horde.
zealous basalt
And we get the bugs
jovial skiff
for sure
uncut vault
you say that, but void elves were an asspull to go alongside the race that got two patches and a raid of content, nightborne
hollow dock
Hence why I tagged it in, Port.
steel venture
we're probably going to get cyborg-gnomes. as much as i hate the idea
jovial skiff
Two dungeons, a nice raid, and many many quests
zealous basalt
And a
jovial skiff
vs velf
steel venture
void elves. des.
uncut vault
just like void elves :^)
jovial skiff
who have
nothing
zealous basalt
"I wont fight again"
hollow dock
Void elves can actually be interesting
steel venture
yeah :&
hollow dock
if the writers would just take some time and actually fucking write for the alliancelike they do the horde
uncut vault
I play a velf cause its the closest thing to a high elf, and has my guy's hairstyle
hollow dock
Oh yea
zealous basalt
"I like my velf"
zealous basalt
What the shit is wmv
hollow dock
WoW model viewer
zealous basalt
....
hollow dock
cuz I just noticed I had mine open
zealous basalt
What did you notice
hollow dock
in the weird places yes.
zealous basalt
...
terse patrol
so apparently Blizzard keeps doing BS where the flashback scenarios are different from what actually happened.
hollow dock
Add me as a friend cuz otherwise I can't pm it
zealous basalt
For what reason
uncut vault
at least theres a canon reason for the inconsistencies now
instead of "oh we just didnt try"
zealous basalt
No no
zealous basalt
Like
terse patrol
He asked Rastakhan to surrender twice respectfully
zealous basalt
For what reasom did they made assets
terse patrol
@hollow dock send pic
zealous basalt
I am really intriged
uncut vault
"no better than the sethrak" said in a post-empire story point is the interesting part for me
vulpera being horde all the way is no surprise
but them still hating the sethrak, nisha at least, after the empire is defeated is intriguing
zealous basalt
I wonder what would they say as sneks
zealous basalt
Gud job kham
uncut vault
Rapid Fire has had some usability problems in PvP. Most other channeled spells will continue to deal damage when your target runs behind a pillar and breaks line of sight, but Rapid Fire requires constant line of sight. We’re changing that, and now it will behave like almost every other channeled spell that players cast, and will continue to damage a target, even if the target is no longer in line of sight. We also think it’s cool to be able to use Disengage while channeling Rapid Fire, so now you can.
😩
jovial skiff
"we also think its cool to..." always the best features
tulip sun
@uncut vault So they don't attack Akunda or Kimbul?
tulip sun
Surprising, Akunda at least
uncut vault
voldun one is surrounding the area sound of the alliance base, tiragarde is around southern boralus/ashvane factory, stormsong is right in the center
zinc sandal
This doesn't feel like something Anduin would do...
tulip sun
Anduin doesn't have control of everyone in the alliance
uncut vault
theory Ive seen go around is that shaw's mostly in charge of the specific operations in zandalar
seeing as theres a whole load of SI:7
tulip sun
Who gives the orders or WQs?
uncut vault
well, atm nobody, but its genn giving the brief as we enter the zone
uncut vault
lavish pawn
wowzers.
uncut vault
tyrande's reign as queen, short it was, has ended
funny bug on the PTR
shandris, instead of getting her new pokes, got some of sira's voice lines
in the middle of stormwind keep
"You dare speak of justice?! I DIED following your orders! You abandoned ME!"
"Death to the Alliance!"
sudden oak
shandris new captain of the kaldorei dark rangers? 
uncut vault
Yeah, I understand where people come from with losing more night elves, especially newer ones, but I think the direction of forsaken with focused anger is interesting
instead of just "alliance bad, they mean"
sudden oak
her voice lines are filled with raw hatred
and I love it
I mean the only new one was delaryn
jade basalt
Problem is they should be just as angry against the Horde and Sylvanas, and not suddenly be okay with serving the same person who killed them and burned everything they loved.
sudden oak
id say Sira hates maiev more than she hates the horde
uncut vault
I mean, based on her line about burning, she still holds a bit of resentment towards sylvanas
but she hates maiev and elune more
jade basalt
And it is possible to hate multiple people at once, it didn't have to be one or the other
uncut vault
"I will watch you all burn, JUST AS SHE DID!"
whether or not thats referring to elune or sylvanas, who knows
sudden oak
I think thats towards Elune
sudden pollen
Definitely feels elune
jade basalt
Think it's Elune ya
uncut vault
the "elune watched us burn" stuff seemed more like delaryn's motivations
sudden oak
sira has a voice line when she is alive "Elune. was she watching over us as Teldrassil burned"
uncut vault
guess sira is their only outlet for actual rage atm
since delaryn's still in her stupor
and is more sad than angry
sudden oak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIm0BLdtd1k&t=0s the shades voice is creepy af
and it kinda looks like a death based entity
since it wants vol'jins spirit back and talks of some master
tulip sun
I love Sylvanas' voice lines
She seems...kinda likable
Her genuine talk with Talanji, etc.
Listening to SIRA'S voice again
SO MUCH ANGER.
sudden oak
I love when her voice turns soft when she says "princess and queen talanji"
also yeah
tulip sun
and ya, that was one major part I was referring to.
sudden oak
siras voice is just seething gatred
north storm
meager warren
Something seems wrong here
limber mural
tulip sun
Do you guys know that the ending of the boralus incursion for alliance is using a Lightforged much to kill hordies?
hardy hedge
The Horde burns Teldrassil with people on it.
"War never changes."
The Alliance kills some vulpera
HAHAHAHA SEE THE ALLIANCE IS EVIL
hardy hedge
The real redpill is knowing that the Alliance could literally build gulags and put the Horde in it, and they would still have the moral high ground
hollow dock
God damn it why do you have to be right
hardy hedge
Fun fact: Even Garrosh let civilians leave Theramore before bombing it. Sylvanas didnt.
Garrosh come back please
hollow dock
You done fucked up when Garrosh says you're out of line.
foggy marlin
when the Draenai started consuming the draenor with the crystals and "claiming" land which the Orcs held, they fought back and eventually used the invaders' lives to open a get away portal.
hollow dock
That's a very gross misrepresentation of what happened at Draenor.
First off, when the Draenei came to Draenor, they parley'd with the Orcs.
foggy marlin
it is a perspective
hollow dock
Do remember
they were on dreanor for several hundred years
so that perspective doesn't work.
They traded, were at peace with, and lived with the Orcs for hundreds of years before the Horde was made by the legion to wipe them out.
foggy marlin
and then the alliance's hunting of tauren
hardy hedge
Thats literally not what happened at all. Lol. The Draenei didnt try to claim Draenor
lavish pawn
guys guys guys..
hollow dock
it's own practices. The horde never existed prior to the Legion making it.
lavish pawn
alliance is bad
hardy hedge
There was a faction of Draenei who wanted to. But the Draenei still remained in their corners
hollow dock
And your "Alliance hunting of the tauren" never happened.
foggy marlin
they did but they were also part with nomadic tribes and those tribs couldn't just migrate across Shattrath
zealous basalt
Good as dead
hollow dock
Camp Taranjo was a legitimate military target.
Oh shattrath
you mean the city they HID FROM THE ORCS
terse patrol
Ok, subject change. This purge squad in Vol’dun.
lavish pawn
@zealous basalt i still think you got the Horde mixed up with the Alliance..
hardy hedge
Fun fact: There was a clan of orcs who dedicated to attack caravans of draenei and rape their women 
hollow dock
AS TO NOT DITURB THE ORCS
terse patrol
why tf are draenei a part of it
zealous basalt
Get out you blind loyalist
lavish pawn
im not blind.
foggy marlin
before the alliance was the alliance, the humans dwarves and trolls did hunt Tauren for being "monsters"
hollow dock
Washuu wanted to make the draenei as evil invaders of Draenor
lavish pawn
i honestly loved burning down the tree.
zealous basalt
"I'm not blind"
hollow dock
Proof, Washuu?
terse patrol
Draenei shaman working with human warlocks and dark irons to kill vulpera civilians
zealous basalt
"I loved burning the tree'
hollow dock
as the TAUREN are on KALMINDOR
hollow dock
and the HUMANS, DWARVES AND MOST TROLLS weren't in the BARRENS
foggy marlin
it is in the quest logs of the tauren for the tauren hunting lore
hollow dock
they were MOSTLY over in theEASTERNKINGDOMS
zealous basalt
If they want to make Alliance evil
hollow dock
Yea the CENTAURSdid
zealous basalt
Better do it right
hollow dock
they CENTAUR did huntdownt he Tauren
but they never came into contact with humanity, dwarves.
zealous basalt
Des
hollow dock
Zandalari trolls most likely, but that would be when the Night elf Empire arose
lavish pawn
Des, Southern Barrens.
zealous basalt
Let the hordes think what they want
foggy marlin
just saying, every interaction between any faction has 3 stories
hollow dock
Nothey don't lol
foggy marlin
theirs, ours, and the victor's
hollow dock
Lex.
hardy hedge
zealous basalt
They cant even grasp that they are going to be dead
hollow dock
Beforethehorde was made
the Tauren never once
interacted with thedwarves
or thehumans
hardy hedge
Disband the Horde
lavish pawn
you're right.
hardy hedge
Lightbound them all
hollow dock
they weren't overon Kalmindoruntil the alliance
zealous basalt
Nah
hollow dock
that is what Washuuis claiming
zealous basalt
The horde isnt worth saving
hardy hedge
In the Light we are one
hollow dock
The tauren werebeing hunted as animals
before teh alliance
by humans, dwarves and trolls
lavish pawn
ok.
hardy hedge
I like to imagine the legions of Lightbounds say that as a warsong in a really creepy rone
lavish pawn
and i was born on mars.
hollow dock
that is what the argument was about.
hardy hedge
"In the Light we are one"
hollow dock
that's what washuu was arguing @lavish pawn I was stating it's bullshit
zealous basalt
As what everything horde says and does Des
lavish pawn
mm
zealous basalt
Seriously, I hope
I really hope
If blizzard continues this way
Let Alliance strike with all the power
lavish pawn
i just want some alliance leaders to die already.
zealous basalt
Which is more than horde so they start fearing
lavish pawn
done with my hordes dying
zealous basalt
It would be better if you weren't so deaf and blind
hollow dock
alliance leaders do die
lavish pawn
I like being the bad guy.
hardy hedge
TIMES CHANGE
lavish pawn
So.
zealous basalt
But as long as you follow your warchief
You are going to keep dying until the Horde is more than dust on my shoes
hollow dock
you guys lose new characters with hardly any development to them while the alliance gets all its potential gutted
hardy hedge
Garrosh wasnt evil
zealous basalt
Nah
hollow dock
He wasn't UNTIL the vale.
hardy hedge
He was winning the war
hollow dock
When he dunked the heart, that's when he was legitimately evil.
zealous basalt
Honestly Des
zealous basalt
Let's start getting Deus vult
hollow dock
I mean.
hardy hedge
Yet he still was winning all by himself
hollow dock
he was messing with the old gods
hardy hedge
Big fucking hero I tell you
hollow dock
he was losing pretty badly by that point.
and the whole world knows that when you side with the old gods
you're pretty much evil and gone
hardy hedge
What do you think the Void Elves are
hardy hedge
zealous basalt
Yes
hollow dock
The void elves don't mess with the old gods
hollow dock
they mess directly with the void. and had alleria not been manning the seat, they wouldn't have made it into the alliance.
zealous basalt
Above orgrimmar
hollow dock
Different circumstances.
zealous basalt
Des
hollow dock
cuz then the game is over.
that's why we also don't move the vindicaar into firing position
hollow dock
and just obliterate their armies
zealous basalt
The worst thing are these Horde people
lavish pawn
Horde is fucking cool, shut your mouth
hardy hedge
Honestly do we even know if the Vindicaar has that much firepower?
zealous basalt
We are OP
hardy hedge
I dont remember see it fire
zealous basalt
Learn your fucking place
hollow dock
it's War machines can solo legion dreadnaughts
zealous basalt
You are just dev tools to make this game "interesting"
steel venture
can we just make both sides have good and bad people thankyou
foggy marlin
at least the horde is the Underdog, alliance is jus socially acceptable "humanoids"
hollow dock
Horde isn't underdog
zealous basalt
No
lavish pawn
"acceptable"
hollow dock
they're literally the scum of the earth that commit genocide
zealous basalt
They dont belong in Azeroth
lavish pawn
No u
zealous basalt
They never did
They are alive just because Alliance let's them be alive
But they dont cant understand that
lavish pawn
Lets just... Break the blight out one last time, and just... end the alliance
thats all im saying
zealous basalt
And let's have Jaina freeze it
lavish pawn
nono
zealous basalt
You have lost your deus ex
hollow dock
She gets away
foggy marlin
individuals convince others to commit genecide.
hollow dock
just like in the raid.
zealous basalt
Let's open a lot of rift portals
lavish pawn
shut up blizzard.
hollow dock
That individual is your leader Washuu
so you follow her like the good little soldier you are.
foggy marlin
not every german was a nazi
hollow dock
The Nuremberg defense does not work when you commit genocide.
zealous basalt
Be aware of the consequences
hollow dock
Orders, no orders.
hardy hedge
Good soldiers follow orders.
lavish pawn
All I'm saying is that the Horde has been doing nothing wrong.
lavish pawn
You're just, in our way.
zealous basalt
That is really important
hollow dock
it doesn't matter what the context is, that is wrong
zealous basalt
YOU DONT BELONG HERE
lavish pawn
Des. Both factions have slaughtered children.
steel venture
what double-face thing?
you mean how sylvanas is a selfish murderous asshole that manipulates people?
thats kind of her POINT
hollow dock
Please inform me when the alliance did that.
hollow dock
Please. A single time. Show me when the alliance nuked a city, burned down civilian housing of the horde.
PLease.
zealous basalt
"Alliance is evil for purging furries"
hollow dock
I n f o r m m e
lavish pawn
civilian housing of the horde?
lets go back to Turajo.
hollow dock
Oh you mean the civilains that the alliance LET LEAVE
steel venture
I find the Vulpera-purging GREAT tbh.
zealous basalt
You cant come up with a better idea
hollow dock
while the mercenaries they hired went OUT OF CONTROL
hollow dock
Let's go back to that quest and get both sides of the story shall we?
zealous basalt
Dare to inform yourself before saying how it wasn't
lavish pawn
Your mercenaries are still part of your alliance. They left that stain on you.
hollow dock
zealous basalt
And you are
steel venture
Like it's refreshing.
Also "MUH TAURAJO" is the most lame excuse.
Alliance essentially has not done anything outright evil until now. And I'm loving that they're finally doing this.
zealous basalt
Forgetting a small detail
hardy hedge
Literally the Horde
hollow dock
During the events of Cataclysm, the town was destroyed by the Alliance, in order to secure their offensive against the Horde. The Alliance, expanding from Northwatch Hold under false information that the tauren were planning an attack, had razed Camp Taurajo.[1] Several quest chains do show that General Hawthorne, who led the assault, ordered his men to give the townsfolk an opening in their defensive lines for them to escape. He had also ordered the camp to be firebombed by Wildhammer mercenaries, whether before or after the battle is won stays unknown.[2
let's go ahead with that.
hollow dock
Right? the civilians weren't allowed to leave?
hardy hedge
Fuck the Horde man
steel venture
The Alliance literally has been the white-knight faction since the start of the game.
hardy hedge
I want to kill Horde civilians
lavish pawn
¯_(ツ)_/¯
steel venture
And it's fucking BORING.
lavish pawn
they're still Alliance.
zealous basalt
Not their players or the story
lavish pawn
They still killed our men/women.
hardy hedge
I want to go to a camp of injured orcs and Trolls and Slaughter them
hollow dock
Who stayed and didn't evacuate after the alliance LET THEM LEAVE.
hardy hedge
Hunt some farmer tauren
lavish pawn
sigh.
zealous basalt
AND EVEN BAINE SAID IT WAS OK
hardy hedge
Lightbound them to slavery
hollow dock
For his own part, High Chieftain Baine Bloodhoof accepted that Camp Taurajo was a legitimate military target, as they did train hunters and warriors there, and knows that Hawthorne refused to have its civilians slaughtered.[4]
by the way
just read that bit
lavish pawn
¯_(ツ)_/¯
hollow dock
YOUR HORDE
zealous basalt
"I like being the bad guy, but if Alliance kills my guys, they are bad guys"
lavish pawn
whatever.
hollow dock
admits it
zealous basalt
Typical horde
lavish pawn
Makore, I like being the bad guy. Killing my guys just means I'll have to bomb a city or two.
Jesus.
zealous basalt
And you did
Forgot Theramore?
And forgot that your Horde
Was one bit of dying in that moment?
lavish pawn
Man, We've been few for awhile.
zealous basalt
Or do we forget how Jaina was going to destroy Orgrimmar and part of Durotar?
You only live for the sole purpose of plot
And by the plot you are protected
lavish pawn
So do you tho?
zealous basalt
Alliance lives for protecting the world that, by the way, you are killing
zealous basalt
And you are unaware
That in the moment Alliance decides to unleash all the power
Which is never going to happen because gameplay
Horde is done for
lavish pawn
ok bud
zealous basalt
Void Rifts, Vindicaar, Sinking cities, a better engineering
There is no way Horde can really survive
hollow dock
Mak, just drop it. THey clearly don't listen to reason.
lavish pawn
Y'all are just cute.
zealous basalt
I have lost all tolerance against Horde and their community
lavish pawn
I've lost tolerance against Alliance and their community too.
hollow dock
yea because both communities are shit.
WoW just has a shit community. Hurray that we came to this conclusion.
lavish pawn
we can agree on something
astral anchor
The speed you guys are posting, reason is hard to see.
lavish pawn
i guess i'll finally alt tab
zealous basalt
"I dont want to read things I dont know but I will think I know so let's alt tab"
/shrug
lavish pawn
fucker, im trying to let this go.
hollow dock
Don't be dragging me back into it.
dense plover
Nope
Incursions always use the airships
Vindacar is referenced for the darkshore warfront
hollow dock
can't use the weapon that took on the legion's fleet.
dense plover
Though it hasn’t shown up
Might not be implemented yet
Des, I think it’s more about gameplay consistency in this case. Incursions end on an airship. If the type of airship rotated for alliance but not for horde, the alliance players would probably be upset
Horde doesn’t have any other airship types
hollow dock
yea sucks for them
we don't have blight or something similar to it yet you guys get to use it
why is that not unfair to players to see?
hardy hedge
Just make the goblins, belves and nightborne build a magical hellicarrier
dense plover
Because the horde is the one that goes to the alliance airships and vice versa
So alliance would just see it from the sky
Horde would actually go in and fight there
Also, the airship is destroyed at the end
Which doesn’t really fit with the vindacaar
zealous basalt
Or
hollow dock
At least it gives an excuse as to why its not used
zealous basalt
Dont let them even fight inside
dense plover
Again, I’m fairly certain it shows up in the darkshore warfront
hollow dock
I'm fairly certain it won't.
hollow dock
Horde gets their toys but alliance can't use theirs.
hardy hedge
The Alliance is gonna lose
dense plover
There’s datamined lines about the vindacaar
hardy hedge
Accept it and move on
dense plover
Related to calling in lightforged at darkshore
hollow dock
yea and there's a datamined line from tyrande not sparing forsaken but they get to live
unique crag
I just noticed Flash of Light is updated again, how come there's no news?
hollow dock
Because it was already covered a while ago 0=
zealous basalt
Unless they updated it again?
dense plover
Also, Makore, that’s the opposite of gameplay consistency. The end of the incursion is fighting on the airship. If the vindacaar was there and you are saying the horde doesn’t get to fight on it, then how would the incursion even work
unique crag
I'm pretty sure it just got updated again in latest build
It doesnt look weird now, last one was shooting light out of empty space
jade basalt
The filename is up, confirmation that these are for Taelia. It's also 2 shoulders (left, right) but since they're the same, using 1 pic.
https://i.imgur.com/14gIUlE.jpg
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/406282965438562314/502217431771512853/Shoulder.jpg?width=436&height=643
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/406282965438562314/502216838659178496/Stuff.jpg?width=436&height=643
dense plover
So, she gets fancy armor?
terse patrol
yes
dense plover
Cool
lavish pawn
Man, Makore has been on some weird stuff.
lavish pawn
what do you expect from someone who literally only lurks
zealous basalt
To keep lurking
dense plover
It’s not about fairness
lavish pawn
nah you said some stupid things, so i have to say stupid things back
dense plover
It’s about gameplay
zealous basalt
Will that armor be with the current armor?
Stupid things
she ignored what we said about camp t
Okay...
lavish pawn
assuming genders
dense plover
If the end of an incursion is fighting a boss on an airship and then destroying the airship, it has to work that way consistently
hardy hedge
The Vindicar doesnt have to be incluided in an airship incurssion o_O @dense plover
lavish pawn
man. leave the ship alone
hollow dock
To keep it fair, then stop using blight
lavish pawn
ofc
dense plover
I’m not saying we shouldn’t see the vindacaar
At all
I’m saying it doesn’t fit in to an incursion as the airship
hollow dock
They can let it crash and bam
lavish pawn
airships... would.. have to be airships..
hollow dock
reason to never use it again
lavish pawn
not spaceships..
hollow dock
Let's ignore that theVindicaar is aninvasion vessel capable of sendingtroops to and from very quickly with the use of teleporters
dense plover
I think it should appear in a warfront as the dropship. You could have lightforged soldiers, you could have the beam do stuff
hollow dock
The beam can just bomb the horde stronghold in that case
dense plover
I 100% want to see it be relevant or at least explained
dense plover
So stop putting words in my mouth when I’m saying it doesn’t belong in an incursion
I’m not saying it’s too powerful or anything of the sort
I’m saying it’s inconsistent with the gameplay
Also, incursions don’t have blight from what I’ve seen
I saw soldiers, and an iron star
Though we haven’t see the other two horde incursions
zealous basalt
And in the case they do?
lavish pawn
We'll see.
lavish pawn
ew. goblins.
dense plover
There’s like pieces of other horde tech
But the maghar is the commander
For alliance we have seen voldun, though I personally haven’t seen it yet
zealous basalt
I can guess Stormsong will be orcs and forsaken again
dense plover
Probably orcs specifically
It could be forsaken
Though I think that would fit better in drustvae
Deustvar
Drustvar
Mf autocorrect
lavish pawn
Yeah, Drustvar might be a lil better
jade basalt
In other news, the "Extrathicc Peon" NPC was renamed "Extra Buff Peon"
https://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=148229
lavish pawn
i could get behind that name
terse patrol
why tf they changed the name
lavish pawn
i dunno, but its a lil sad
clear mesa
hardy hedge
jade basalt
Someone used the Blood elf heritage but with edited/recolored Void elf boots, because for some reason Void elves are the only ones to get proper feet instead of the generic painted spandex boots https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/440659490468134933/502276304054517771/blood_elf_edit2.png
zealous basalt
Well
terse patrol
Blood elves be jelly
jade basalt
These aren't actually boots, it's a tiny 3D piece on the top of the foot, as usual.
Cloth-like sets rarely get proper boots, the Void elves did and it's pretty cool.
steel venture
...clearly there is geosets for the boots. but it doesn't show on the armorless set yet
...asdfas robe set
ahem
augh
my brain today
jade basalt
And yeah the robe-less version is bugged.
zealous basalt
Looks pnice
terse patrol
Whats wrong with the skin tight boots tho
It reminds me of the belf starter set, I like that set.
Wish they’d make an HD version.
jade basalt
They're good when it's cold in Winter
steel venture
...OOO MAN OK BUT PICTURE IF YOU WILL?
combining the belf heritage gear with the T20 Horde PVP recolor.
dense plover
There’s actually pieces missing from the armor
There’s supposed to be tassels on the shoulders and the boots are supposed to have 3D bits
They aren’t finished
tranquil steeple
the boots have 3d bits on them in the robed version, but not the tunic version
jade basalt
Yeah the robe version has the finished boots, it's just a 3D bit at the tip of the foot, as usual.
Other armors like the Void elf, Dark Iron or Dwarf heritage armors have proper, fully 3D boots https://zodab.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/dwarf-heritage-armor.jpg
steel venture
..its
its because of the limitation from robes.
a robe prevents more than the geoset placed on the tip of the boot from showing
anymore and it clips
hollow dock
or maybe it's just incomplete
steel venture
and the robeless set is incomplete, ye
tranquil steeple
still, I just mentioned it because it just seems that the boots' 3d bits could be related to the robe.... somehow, and therefore when it's not a robe, but a tunic instead, they no longer show (until fixed)
jade basalt
Actually, the boots seem final, at least according to the icon which confirms they're essentially slippers with a 3D bit at the tip. https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/798769.jpg
There's still the faint possibility that the robe-less version might get proper greaves instead of slippers, but I wouldn't get your hopes up.
There's still the faint possibility that the robe-less version might get proper greaves instead of generic slippers, but I wouldn't get your hopes up.
wicked zealot
can anyone tell me if the new tiersets apparances are on the ptr yet? :)
in the collection tabn
jade basalt
@wicked zealot Nope
This may interest @serene marsh or someone else, but the Mythic plate set was updated with 3D parts
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/411187738520322050/502510808887197697/unknown.png
Before (some generic boot, leg and glove geosets) https://i.imgur.com/WTUizFo.jpg
After (Leyst) https://i.imgur.com/aQbzejh.jpg
(Don't mind the glove, it's supposed to look like this, with talon-like fingers) https://i.imgur.com/szdwQjn.jpg
Better pic (Leyst) https://i.imgur.com/ezedbhb.jpg
wicked zealot
ty
jovial skiff
Hey, do we know what the BfA Pathfiner Part 2 will be yet?
dense plover
no
uncut vault
No, we wont get it till 8.2 at earliest
dense plover
it wont be out until we get a new landmass
neat idol
Whats wrong with PTR? I wasnt supposed to be the raid testing?
dense plover
think its already over
no wait
its still going\
apparently there are just some crash issues
neat idol
sad
dense plover
its a ptr
bugs happen
jade basalt
The Tirasian heritage armor was updated with proper gloves and feet
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/411187738520322050/502643124812775424/unknown.png
dense plover
still needs a pirate hat
zealous basalt
Nani
meager warren
And peg leg
zealous basalt
And hook
sinful linden
parrot?
zinc sandal
Did he say Tirasian?
meager warren
Kul Tirasian
jade basalt
Tirasian is the original demonym, before they invented the ugly 'Kul Tiran' in BFA, so some still use it out of habit, or both.
uncut vault
Some, meaning you 😛
tropic trail
This seems slightly racist
jovial coral
jovial skiff
I thought that too
but its whatever
hes a dragon, probably gets to be whatever he wants
fathom wave
idk if it's been asked, but silvermoon exalted rep is required on the blood elf toon?
or any horde toon is ok?
uncut vault
Has to be on the blood elf
person doing the questline
I recommend mechanar for easy exalted, just spam it over and over, gives 3k per run in about five minutes
midnight bloom
Man I really hope we dont get Mechagnomes as playables, I really dislike small races in WoW, all their gear is smooshed and looks ugly af
midnight bloom
I believe so
fathom needle
we do for collecting like 250 toys
meager zodiac
i still think the way its beign set up
it might me mechanical parts for normal gnomes as an option
midnight bloom
I really hope Alliance gets Sethrak, I REALLY dont want Mech Gnomes good god pls no Blizz
Read some info on Gnome Leader, looks like they are leading into some sort of robot gnome allied race
Yuck af
zealous basalt
I don't want a robot gnome allied race
But
If they give gnomes some sort of customization for cybernetic parts
And give us sneks
foggy marlin
mini borg
midnight bloom
With the direction WoW is going It's probably gonna be Mecha Gnomes or some cheap knock-off
BFA - Blizzard Failed Again
meager zodiac
you should trademark that
i still thikn the way its beign set up, using gnome npc, makes me think it will allow gnomes to have mechanical eyes, arms, etc
zealous basalt
I like that tbh
hollow dock
Please no.
terse patrol
They’ve been coy about it, one of the designers retweeted someones cyborg gnome fan art fairly recently.
hollow dock
Can people just not share cool fanart? It HAS to mean that they're hinting towards it?
cuz the devs have retweeted all manor of cool fan art.
doesn't mean shit
terse patrol
Well, be said something along the lines of wanting them in game. Lemme try to find it.
strange falcon
trading the cyborg gnomes for the snek people would be the equivalent of taking void elves instead of high elves
get it?
because they were an asspull
terse patrol
he*
strange falcon
i'm funny
terse patrol
@uncut vault Do you got that tweet?
zealous basalt
Cyborg gnomes could be just an extra thing for gnomes
hollow dock
theres 0 build up for cyber gnomes.
zealous basalt
Ratber an allied race
terse patrol
Ehhh
zealous basalt
Like
terse patrol
Junkyard in Tiragarde Sound.
zealous basalt
I'd prefer just
terse patrol
Its not totally unhinted.
terse patrol
@hollow dock owned
terse patrol
It does have unique gnome architecture. 🤔
zealous basalt
Again, I'd prefer Sethrak and extra cyber customization for gnomes
hollow dock
yes. LVIING, NORMAL. GNOMES
zealous basalt
Like the night warrior
hollow dock
NOWHERE IN THAT JUNKYARD DOES IT STATE OR EVEN HINT THAT THE GNOMES MADE CYBERNETICS FOR THEMSELVES
the ONLY HINT TO THAT IS THE UNUSED ISLAND MAPS
strange falcon
there must be a meme around for "uhm,we have this totally brand new and unique race we created for this expac,but let's just use a lazy reskin of a race no one plays and is universally hated just because we're funny"
strange falcon
lightforged undead aka calia after before the storm you mean
meager warren
@midnight bloom alliance getting sethrak is like them getting mag'har orcs
strange falcon
this is a similar situation to where people were denying vulpera's possibility as a race because "they're too unique" and some other excuses i cant remember now,before the overwhelming tide of evidence washed them over
zealous basalt
Yeah but we know Vulpera going horde is 100% sure now
hollow dock
Yea because they are actually in th horde as it is
strange falcon
have u seen the plague squads in ptr
hollow dock
and now that a war mount is being made in them.
zealous basalt
Yes
hollow dock
Yea and the horde still has done worse than the alliance is doing to the horde.
zealous basalt
And they tied up alliance and sethrak together so
meager warren
And?
hollow dock
Vulpera hating the sethrak.
strange falcon
it would also look incredibly bad to have a unique looking race on one side,and a mere reskin on the other(junker gnomes),
zealous basalt
Like hating them universally
strange falcon
and would feed into the horde bias conversation
zealous basalt
Not just a part of them
hollow dock
I mean
meager warren
One or two missions versus an entire zone is no comparison
zealous basalt
So one zone vs one zone
meager warren
How many quests in that one zone?
terse patrol
“the horde get sethrak and vulpera. ummm, i guess alliance can get another reskin.”
strange falcon
there are some points to be made regarding to the relation between sethrak and alliance
zealous basalt
Its a full incursion
meager warren
So, we barely interact with them as alliance?
strange falcon
the alliance timeline wise,get to voldun before the horde,rescure their leader(vorrik) and get the first of the 3 keys,and do some other stuff
the horde instead,does not rescue the leader,they rescue(serrik) which is more or less a nobody compared to the leader(vorrik),
i dont play alliance with a 10ft long stick,so my information is limited
terse patrol
I think the Vulpera will end up finding out that the Sethrak kept their dealings with the Alliance secret from the Horde, and end up going off the rails.
meager warren
Horde rescues a bunch of 'nobody' sethrak tho
zealous basalt
Nobody against leader?
meager warren
But sure
zealous basalt
But probably they just
terse patrol
The Sethrak fit the Alliance better imo
hollow dock
What I imagine is like Honk is saying.
strange falcon
it should also be noted that the sethrak's values as a race,are way more aligned to the alliance
hollow dock
They show the Sethrak as alliance memebrs
strange falcon
than the horde
meager warren
Leader should consider peiple aside from himself
strange falcon
even if at face value they are more vicious
zealous basalt
Go full zealous and be "cut ties from alliance or we dont go with you"
hollow dock
which forces the alliance to save them
and bam.
Sethrak on the alliance
Vulpera on the horde
terse patrol
I’m saying a misunderstanding will likely force the Sethrak to the Alliance
If it happens
hollow dock
as I described that misunderstanding
meager warren
That'd be stupid
hollow dock
that's how most wars are started.
strange falcon
vorrik being basically a less passive anduin,will (probably) try to find peace with the faithless,angering vulpera in the process,and thus having one more reason to not go to the side that has your enemies in it
meager warren
I stand by my point
zealous basalt
Mostly would be Vulpera being mean with their allies Sethrak just because the Faithful have ties with alliance
terse patrol
Ye. The Alliance havent had a ton of conflict with the Sethrak in the war campaign.
meager warren
So, you're saying they have?
zealous basalt
And we are going to have more quests about alliance aiding the Sethrak, or the faithfuls
terse patrol
So I could see the Faithless Sethrak when they rejoin Vorrik not have much issue with the Alliance. Unlike the Horde.
strange falcon
i should note that a bunch of quests and scenarios from the beta/alpha did not make it into live YET,
an example would be the sumber questline for vulpera
which heavily hints at them being able to be shamans
etc
zealous basalt
I wonder what classes could Sethrak have
strange falcon
they do have light-like effects ingame,if you look at them
terse patrol
Rogue, Shaman, Mage, Priest, Warrior, Hunter, maybe Monk.
zealous basalt
I hope that (if they are playable) they have some sort of passive that adds electric damage
strange falcon
the sethrak casters you can see ingame use both light-looking and lightning magic
zealous basalt
I see sham and monk likely due lightning
strange falcon
monk would be awkward with the long neck and the constant flips
terse patrol
Sethrak team up with Tidesages for super powered storm magic, when?
meager warren
I think the Horde wouldn't care because that's the Sethrak's issues, not theirs.
Also, they've proven they don't care about aiding/ allying with baddies multiple times
strange falcon
PMS INTENSIFIES
meager warren
PMS INTENSIFIES
strange falcon
have you ever entertained the idea of
zealous basalt
Hopefully we get more of their quests in 8.1.5
strange falcon
SNEKPALLIES
zealous basalt
Oof
meager warren
Themselves
terse patrol
but ye, i’d be pleased if we find out Blizz is hiding dynamic sethrak models from us for 8.2 or something.
hollow dock
the faithfuls kept faith with tha tloa
zealous basalt
But snek waifu is lightning
strange falcon
the faithful are the ones who stayed with sethraliss,and the faithless the ones who ignored her and went full on roman empire on everything
strange falcon
@terse patrol some interesting stuff that happened was the sethrak model being able to wear tabards,which was removed a build later,or the ability to wear player capes,
zealous basalt
You know, like the void elves
strange falcon
also the sethrak are the ONLY non playable race(other than vulpera) that has the heart of azeroth animation since alpha
terse patrol
ye, Blizzard likely wants to reveal Sethrak and Vulpera for Blizzcon.
strange falcon
https://imgur.com/a/Y8LQyJ4 @zealous basalt
terse patrol
We’ll likely get more
zealous basalt
Like, they planning to have extra customizations for all races tied to a storyline
Or not all
But some
terse patrol
ye
terse patrol
I hope junker gnomes are just customizations
Because I’d want to see some sort of new race use the gnome skeleton
zealous basalt
Just customization yeah
Not full race
Hmm
But
There is an issue
Alliance doesnt have a rep with sneks
Yet
terse patrol
They can make up some new rep for 8.2
strange falcon
"not all allied races will be unlocked by rep" they said at the start of alpha/beta
tulip sun
I personally am unconvinced with sethrak
zealous basalt
Why
tulip sun
No story updates in 8.1 and their model is not near ready.
zinc sandal
I doubt they'll be playable. Highly doubt.
zinc sandal
I mean ever
strange falcon
any logical possible way to put sethrak in
is the 8.2 time period
we already got zandalari+kultiran for 8.1
zealous basalt
Ye
strange falcon
and 8.3 would be a stretch in their story relevancy
strange falcon
ion the madlad
zealous basalt
The reason of the scaling is for leaving all areas
All areas
....
What is the word
terse patrol
Well
zealous basalt
Remember void elves
terse patrol
The Alliance are Purge Squadding the Vulpera soooo.
zealous basalt
gets on paladin
gets crusader armor
goes warmode and puts tank mode to have that talent with the horse
terse patrol
“blizzard would never add a race without building them up beforehand”
void elves
@tulip sun
Welcome to the Alliance.
terse patrol
Where our races are asspulled.
zealous basalt
Cool asspulls tho