#beta-ptr-spoilers

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sudden oak
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I think Helya would hate the old gods as much as everyone else

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since she was once a titan keeper

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she knows very well the threat old gods are

grizzled sleet
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She got tentacles

sudden oak
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she is a bitter bitch because odyn

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but she isnt stupid

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not everything with tentacles is old god related

plain vigil
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Drenak have goat hooves what's your point ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

tulip sun
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I would honestly like if the new undead sira was a horde warfronts commander

grizzled sleet
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And Delaryn too

sudden oak
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but to be fair I could see helya whispering to Vol'jin to make Sylvanas warchief

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so she cant take advantage from the bargain she has with her

zealous basalt
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She isn't dead tho

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Apparently she is still alive

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somehow

tulip sun
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Who?

sudden oak
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you mean sira or helya?

grizzled sleet
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Helya

shell pagoda
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She means Helya

zealous basalt
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Ye

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hELYA

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Helya*

grizzled sleet
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She also hold Heilheim which is a dead domain

meager warren
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oooh, tentacles ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

sudden oak
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and she has Val'kyr

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something Sylvanas also wants

meager warren
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@plain vigil wat

zealous basalt
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And imagine if Sylvanas did succeded

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succeed*

shell pagoda
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I know what you are thinking right now

grizzled sleet
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She's still alive I think

zealous basalt
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Yeah

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There is a Expedition Isle quest that says so

grizzled sleet
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gamepedia say Status : Unknown because of a quest

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<A light mist twists and curls around this ring as if caressing it.

Holding this object makes you uneasy, deep within your soul. It feels as if invisible, icy hands from the lands of the dead are pulling at you.

There is no mistaking Helya's power.

The Valarjar will want to hear about this.>

plain vigil
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@meager warren hm

zealous basalt
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One of the valarjar

shell pagoda
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Yup

zealous basalt
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Said that indeed, Helya was still alive

shell pagoda
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We are screwed

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Lol

meager warren
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about the goathooves

zealous basalt
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There are lots of things still to be done regarding the isle expeditions

grizzled sleet
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Another ring? Hmph. Yes, we have been seeing them more frequently.

<Valdemar grimaces.>

Helya is growing in power.

What, small one, are you surprised? Did you think she was defeated?

<Valdemar laughs heartily.>

You cannot kill death!

I thank you for making me laugh today, little friend.

Odyn has heard about your search for Azerite, we have gathered what we could.

Here, it is yours.

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"Did you think she was defeated?

<Valdemar laughs heartily.>

You cannot kill death!"

meager warren
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"You cannot kill Death"

CHALLENGE ACCEPTED

shell pagoda
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That is going to be hard

grizzled sleet
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So

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Vol'jin asked 3 entities tied to death but he forgot about Heilheim / Helya

zealous basalt
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I don''t think he expects helya to be alie

shell pagoda
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Damn

zealous basalt
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....

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Damn

tulip sun
shell pagoda
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Damn

zealous basalt
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Is she still alive

shell pagoda
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Yup

tulip sun
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Ya, Maiev looks normal

shell pagoda
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Not dead

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Double damn

tulip sun
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She was added this patch

zealous basalt
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Seems to be a target in the Warfront

grizzled sleet
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They will end up killing all wardens I'm sure

tulip sun
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If they were, shed have a similar model I think

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As Sira

sudden oak
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I wonder who will be the generals in the darkshore warfront

grizzled sleet
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SHe will end up dying too, maybe not in BFA

sudden oak
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I think nathanos will be one

grizzled sleet
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Blizzard hate wardens

tulip sun
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I am thinking Maiev for darkshore wzrfront

zealous basalt
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Lasan?

grizzled sleet
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By the way there is a secret unsolved about wardens

shell pagoda
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.

meager warren
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those secretive little wankers

sudden oak
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I feel very offended that none of them told us anything about it

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😠

meager warren
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i feel very offended that you feel they have to tell us

grizzled sleet
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Maybe Sira will do murloc

meager warren
shell pagoda
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Maybe

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Or maybe happy

sudden oak
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I mean we are helping them with their problem in the Vault of the wardens maybe sharing something that could help us would be a nice way to say thanks

shell pagoda
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^

zealous basalt
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Nelves be nelves

shell pagoda
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Wardens be Wardens

terse patrol
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Nice to see Maiev Alliance side again.

shell pagoda
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It sure is

terse patrol
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Who was it in here who was adamant about the Wardens being neutral?

sudden oak
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lets hope this time she doesnt go into a killing spree of night elves mages

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again

terse patrol
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When their lore specifically states they’re the jailers and secret police of the Kaldorei.

shell pagoda
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Oh right

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Again

tulip sun
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Well

meager warren
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Again

tulip sun
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I am fairly positive they head to darkshore

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A lot of forces are wiped

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Raised

terse patrol
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I think Blizzard brushed that under the rug

tulip sun
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And there we have it

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Sira vs Maeiv

terse patrol
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Legion felt like a soft retcon for Maiev

shell pagoda
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😱

grizzled sleet
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I think Maeiv as commander of the Alliance and Sira as horde commandeer

tulip sun
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Yyp

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Yup

terse patrol
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I don’t like it

shell pagoda
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😱 😱 😱 😱

shell pagoda
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That would make sense

sudden oak
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...

shell pagoda
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Sure it would

sudden oak
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I

shell pagoda
terse patrol
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It proves Sylvanas isn’t giving the new Forsaken free will.

zealous basalt
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...

sudden oak
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dont know what to say

grizzled sleet
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There is something called Dagger realm

tulip sun
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Not really

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We see Zelling and Stone willingly choose the Horde

terse patrol
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Sylvanas destroys their homes, burns their holy places, kills innocents

tulip sun
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Not to mention

shell pagoda
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Wtf is that dagger

grizzled sleet
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a map : DaggerRealm - Dagger Realm

zealous basalt
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So

tulip sun
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Some go insane at least a little when raised

zealous basalt
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Knaifu

terse patrol
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“i’ll totally serve you sylvanas” -Delaryn

zealous basalt
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Stops being knaifu?

sudden oak
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yes

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no

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maybe

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perhaps

grizzled sleet
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She has a realm now

shell pagoda
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Knifu

sudden oak
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mayhaps

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Idk

grizzled sleet
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it's a map "DaggerRealm - Dagger Realm"

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Maybe she's dormant there

meager warren
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"willingly choose the Horde"

hmmm, i wonder why they'd do that.
couldn't be because they lost their free will

zealous basalt
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She he waifu there

terse patrol
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Or its because they have no free will, and Hordies are fooling themselves

sudden oak
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Zelling willingly became forsaken

terse patrol
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^

meager warren
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doesn't mean he has free will now

terse patrol
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There is absolutely NO WAY Delaryn is willingly serving Sylvanas.

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None.

shell pagoda
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I don't see it happening

grizzled sleet
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Or

sudden oak
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I mean we dont know yet she truly becomes forsaken

grizzled sleet
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She will still be Delaryn, try to tell the alliance who shee is and they don't believe her

tulip sun
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I don't think you understand they change drastically when undeadifiwd

terse patrol
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The Horde looks for her body, and alerts Nathanos when you find it

sudden oak
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maybe they are just using the corpse as bait

terse patrol
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Pretty sure he prolly raises her

sudden oak
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just like with derek

tulip sun
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I mean

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Not confirmed

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Tyrande could stop us

meager warren
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forsaken with free will, like that one daughter of a scarlet crusade leader i can't remember the name of, are rare

terse patrol
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@grizzled sleet Then she’d take the undead elves and make her own faction.

sudden oak
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Lillian Voss

terse patrol
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Why the hell would she serve SYLVANAS.

meager warren
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ahh yes

shell pagoda
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Are you talking about Voss?

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Nvm

sudden oak
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because we dont know if she is even serving her

shell pagoda
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Lol

grizzled sleet
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There is no undead elves, Nathanos will only succed to raise Delaryn.

terse patrol
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What about Sira then?

grizzled sleet
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We stop him from raising an army of Nightelves

terse patrol
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Because she’s definitely undead now.

sudden oak
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we dont know if she is undead either

terse patrol
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...

meager warren
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yes, i mean Voss.
Also, very few people with actual morals would serve Sylvanas willingly.
so if they do serve sylvanas, it's because they lost their free will or because bad writing

shell pagoda
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Well she could be corrupted

sudden oak
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just changing the color of her armor doesnt mean that she is undead

grizzled sleet
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Nowhere to Run - Hunt down Nathanos Blightcaller.
Nowhere to Hide - Find Nathanos Blightcaller nearby.
The Queen's Pawn - Intervene before Nathanos raises the fallen as forsaken.
Eyes of the Forest - Return to the fleet and scout the Horde army.

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he will not raise too many

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maybe just those 2

meager warren
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like how lillian voss is helping the horde this expac

tulip sun
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They at least raise Sira

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And the Horde player has a command to raise nameless dark rangers from nelf corpses

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So more than 2

terse patrol
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^

shell pagoda
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Well, only time will tell

meager warren
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wat

shell pagoda
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We are not jesus christ who can see through time

grizzled sleet
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We are not Chromie

shell pagoda
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Patience is key

meager warren
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don't mention religious stuff here pls

zealous basalt
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Should wait for data mining to be completed

tulip sun
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I mean

shell pagoda
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^

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Exactly

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We wait

tulip sun
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We are making inferences on very good dsta

shell pagoda
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True

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But I like to wait and then make theories

zealous basalt
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I am with kham

tulip sun
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I like to make theories when I find stuff out to stall my boredom e.e

shell pagoda
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Same here

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But not all the time

zealous basalt
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Probably tyrande stops nathanos with delaryn

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But fails with Sira

tulip sun
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Ya, considering there is no model for her

zealous basalt
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That too

shell pagoda
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Yeah that is right because I couldn't find it

tulip sun
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Ya, I looked after I saw Sira

grizzled sleet
tulip sun
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Yup

shell pagoda
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.

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Ok this is interesting now

grizzled sleet
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Oh

sudden oak
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lol

tulip sun
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Porter had to of been just randomly searching npcs to find Sira

terse patrol
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So

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Mekkatorque might still die

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"We're gonna show Mekkatorque that we ain't so stupid after all. Once his ship's on fire, we'll land on it and send out one of them SOS things.
He's gonna be flying back, and I bet he'll be all, oh no, I've been outwitted by Gallywix, he destroyed my ship, I better save everyone!
Then when he gets there he'll see us and realize he's been DOUBLE outwitted! HAH!"

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So, Horde lights his ship on fire, Mekkatorque flies away in his escape pod and right into a trap

tulip sun
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Hm..

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I saw that text earlier

sudden oak
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if someone from the alliance side dies I will be greatly surprised tbh

tulip sun
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But didn't read that deep

plain vigil
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@terse patrol nah he has an escape pod in his escape mech

tulip sun
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I think that is his point

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He uses it

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and goes into another trap supposedly

shell pagoda
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If he dies there will be criticism over the gnome lore and replacement issues

terse patrol
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The only two who could replace him are Tinkmaster Overspark and Kelsey Steelspark.

tulip sun
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or a new character

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Introduce a bunch and have an actual election xD

terse patrol
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I dont like it

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Killing the one gnome with any real lore behind them just so the Horde feel ok about losing Rastakhan.

shell pagoda
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Or maybe some people would replace him with ManaStorm

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But I don't see that happening

meager warren
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imo

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the horde shouldn't be losing Rastakhan so soon. it's stupid and cliche since they've lost so many people already

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and the alliance has lost too many as well but not as many

shell pagoda
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Well then what to do what to do....

meager warren
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if only there was a way everyone could stop killing each other

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🤔

shell pagoda
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Well

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This is Battle for Azeroth after all

meager warren
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sure that's the title of the expac, but the context is "another meaningless reason to continue the stupid faction war"

shell pagoda
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Well there could be chances for peace

meager warren
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there's been chances for peace since after Orcs and Humans

shell pagoda
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Like the end at of this xpac the old gods might show up and maybe they would work together to purge them away from azeroth

meager warren
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The Horde and Alliance have worked together in the past.
But at the end of the day, they always, ALWAYS, find some other inane reason to keep fighting

terse patrol
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Whats sad is if that Chinese leak ends up being true, Mekkatorque dies feeling like he failed his people.

meager warren
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oof

shell pagoda
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Omg

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Are you bloody serious right now

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Yup its time for another shit show

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I see it coming right now

manic horizon
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In the Before the Storm book, Sylvanas and Saurfang have a conversation about it. I don't like her logic, but there's some form of logic. "How long do you think this peace will last? Ten years? A hundred?"

terse patrol
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The gnomes dont need Mekkatorque to be replaced by a meme like Manastorm.

manic horizon
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So she's thinking "Big Picture."

shell pagoda
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😐

meager warren
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"Are you bloody serious right now"

Um, yes.

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Are you?

shell pagoda
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Maybe

meager warren
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Nice.

tulip sun
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Not finding anybody else interesting sadly

shell pagoda
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But I can see a shit show coming up

meager warren
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what shit show

shell pagoda
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About Mekkatorque getting oof'd

meager warren
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why would that start a shitshow

shell pagoda
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Because there are mekkatorque fans

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Aka gnome fans

meager warren
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do you mean fans or fanatics

tulip sun
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Huh

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Shandris was added someplace new in 8.1

shell pagoda
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Just fans

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Really?

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Do you have a link?

tulip sun
meager warren
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nah, i don't think that would surprise them since the gnomes are always let down somehow

tulip sun
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Don't know where

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But ya

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New armor?!

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I don't know what she use to look like e.e

shell pagoda
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Rip

tulip sun
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Nevermind

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False alarm

shell pagoda
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Ah

terse patrol
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Dont worry

tulip sun
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I thought it was new, lol

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But she does appear in new places in 8.1

terse patrol
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They’re adding a whole new allied race of gnomes to disappoint us with.

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“Here, have them. We won’t build on their lore ever.”

tulip sun
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Is there new evidence?

meager warren
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no but that wouldn't surprise me

terse patrol
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“Also have a Gnomeregan Pet Battle Dungeon to make Mekkatorques death go by better Alliance”

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The junkyard in Tiragarde Sound. @tulip sun

meager warren
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"you want more gnome lore? too bad, have another allied race you'll grow tired of after a month"

terse patrol
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All new unique gnome assets

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Special gnome assets

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With anchors on the cogs and stuff

tulip sun
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Velen is someplace new in 8.1

terse patrol
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Some think they might be cyborg gnomes

shell pagoda
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.

meager warren
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cyborg gnomes would be cool.
but that should be an option for normal gnomes, not an allied race

shell pagoda
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^

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That would make more sense

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It can be a reskin

terse patrol
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i agree but i wouldnt be surprised at this point

meager warren
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and it would fit more than other allied races being options for the default races because some gnomes are actually cyborgs

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well bliz is dumb so i agree

shell pagoda
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LFD should be a reskin for spacegoats

terse patrol
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Tired of gnomes being neglected by Blizzard

meager warren
shell pagoda
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And I'm still waiting for that goblin model

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Shame

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Someone end me happy

meager warren
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i bet they'll pull a "you want high elves, the horde is there waiting for you" for gnomes getting more lore

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we can always trust bliz to be pretentious

shell pagoda
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Some people think blizz is Activision

meager warren
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it's worse in some ways and better in others

terse patrol
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inb4 they give the horde the new gnomes, and start doing lots of lore for the new gnomes

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Leaving the Alliance gnomes in the dust

meager warren
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xd

shell pagoda
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Lel

meager warren
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"The new gnome allied race is a group of renegade cyber-gnomes that left the alliance because they disagreed with [tyrannical alliance leader, assuming they ever even had one] and joined the horde for some reason, as if that's somehow better"

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Called it

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you saw it here first, folks

shell pagoda
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Hahahaha

north storm
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so

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jorundall and havenswood

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are they explored yet ?

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or just the maps are available ?

shell pagoda
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Arthas my lord

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kneel I am forever your servant

terse patrol
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@meager warren

meager warren
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wat

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why'd you ping me

terse patrol
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it seems to be the new nelf eyes

meager warren
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nice

ivory monolith
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correction: they aren't just new eyes, it is its own skin tone

terse patrol
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which is interdasting

shell pagoda
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.

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Those eyes are giving me creeps already

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But it is quite interesting

north storm
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uh...ok

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thanks draw

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but those eyes look funny

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will you please datamine havenswood and jorundall please ?

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I wanna see Havenswood so badly

meager warren
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i hope night elves get better hairstyles and facial hair for the males as well.
I want to look like a wildman, not an amish guy

calm plank
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those sets are fucking lit

tulip flare
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Dataminers, any changes on Kul Tirans? like customization/body options...?

north storm
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dataminers

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any jorundall and havenswood news ?

ruby star
limber mural
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oh lovely. someone destroyed the park district again.

heavy cairn
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to me, pre-legion map = a slight mistake that additionally implies the scenario is only happening in this area of the city (otherwise they would have noticed)

neat idol
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Are ptr realms online? I get a fatal error everytime i try to log in

heavy cairn
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I'm not actually able to open the PTR client at all

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so I can't check realm status

neat idol
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What could be the reason? They aren't open to everyone yet?

calm plank
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they are not open yet

zealous basalt
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Good morning

calm plank
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hello there

zealous basalt
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What is up

calm plank
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not ptr

ruby star
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Morning!

calm plank
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in other news we got 3/4 siege of zuldazar sets

ruby star
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I was looking on the online map viewer and saw a lot of stuff was fiddled with in 8.1 PTR

calm plank
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OwO

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s h o w

ruby star
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Battle for Gilneas,Ruins of Theramore,new one called Assault on stormwind, VoildElf map fiddled with(Northern lorderaron) etc

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Not sure what they fiddled with for BoG and RoT

zealous basalt
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Oof

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More scenarios

calm plank
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Worgen scenario?

ruby star
calm plank
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blizz pls bring back gilneas

zealous basalt
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I mean

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We dont have the new gilneas map yet

ruby star
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Not sure what they're doing

calm plank
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maybe they gonna add some stuff

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maybe it's just them fucking with us

ruby star
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Removing trees in northern lordaeron harbour bit, could be to add more buildings

calm plank
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found it in WarfrontDarkshoreAlliance

ruby star
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Looks like a Goblin thing

calm plank
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that's what I guessed

ruby star
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Oil Rig?

calm plank
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one goblin two forsakens and something else

grizzled sleet
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What if

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Worgen heritage armor scenaio involve rebuilding Gilneas

calm plank
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y e s

zealous basalt
calm plank
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plagued

zealous basalt
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Oof

calm plank
zealous basalt
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More plague

calm plank
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guys in the horde version of the map that goblin thing is gone

zealous basalt
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That reminds me of teldrassil

calm plank
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far too small

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maybe a tiny teldrassil

zealous basalt
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Nani

calm plank
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got a load of updates

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wtf

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there's a place called "HallOfCommunion(Destroyed)"

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got updated into something completly different

ruby star
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A lot of maps have been updated/fiddled in 8.1 it seems

calm plank
ruby star
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At gym on phone, will check when home

calm plank
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it has been completly changed twice

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can send you screens if you want

ruby star
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Sure

zealous basalt
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Hall of communion

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Fhat name

calm plank
ruby star
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Might get destoryed in 8.1 then 🤔

calm plank
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well all are labeled as 8.1.something

zealous basalt
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Oh is the hall of the heart?

calm plank
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it definitely looks titan made

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and there's a shitload of azerite in the last one

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wait a minute

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it's from the motherlode

zealous basalt
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Ohh

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A launch thing?

grizzled sleet
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Kezan exploding murloc

zealous basalt
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Agen

calm plank
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ohh

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the void elf hub (the real one) got some new stuff

zealous basalt
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The upper part?

grizzled sleet
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the real one? what is the other one?

calm plank
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at the north of Stratholme

zealous basalt
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O

grizzled sleet
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ah it's not a hub, it's just part of the quests to unlock them

zealous basalt
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Nopee

calm plank
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well this place has never been used

zealous basalt
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What he sado

grizzled sleet
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oh

calm plank
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it was theorized before we could get em

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but at no point in the scenario we go there

ruby star
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The north part of lordaeron is greenwood pass

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I think

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Its interestng how they started working on it again in PTR 8.1 1st build

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Last they worked on it was 7.3.5 ptr

calm plank
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yup

ruby star
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My personal theory is they're now working on it for High elves, however I could be wrong, gonna keep an eye on it

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As ptr builds come out

zealous basalt
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BOI

ruby star
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Could be for blood elf heritage armour quest

calm plank
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also possible

grizzled sleet
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Someone replaced Nazjatar map with Zug Zug

zealous basalt
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More orcs coming

calm plank
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A L L I A N C E O R C

grizzled sleet
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Does Vantus runes give more stats with upcoming raids or it's fixed for the whole expansion?

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There is a graveyard named

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8.1 SoS PreRaid - Dagger - Revival Point (msc)

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Must be related to DaggerRealm - Dagger Realm

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So quests involving Xal'Atath are the pre-raid quests of the second raid?

zealous basalt
#

That would make sense

grizzled sleet
#

Do you know what happens when you call Xal'atath stupid?

zealous basalt
#

Hoe

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How cannyou

#

Even talk about knaifu

ruby star
#

Defense of Karabor was also fiddled with

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A lot of random maps are being fiddled with

tulip sun
#

I am wake!

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Anything I missed? 😛

calm plank
#

you do not trash the knaifu waifu

ruby star
#

Only these map file stuff (unless you haven't seen the 8.1 datamined stuff Khamnin) 😄

zealous basalt
#

Hmm

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Probably defense of karabor is for draenei heritage

calm plank
#

don't trash talk the knaifu

zealous basalt
#

...think we are going to see maraad again if that happens?

tulip sun
#

Nah, I saw everything released before like

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2 AM

calm plank
#

or she will end your laifu

tulip sun
#

I see we found the night warrior customization

calm plank
#

yup

zealous basalt
#

They be now new moon

calm plank
#

pretty hyped about that

ruby star
#

Battle For Gilineas (got updated in 8.1 PTR) so like someone menointed above, could be for Worgen heritage armour

zealous basalt
#

Rather than full moon

ruby star
#

Ruins of Theramore, could be for hertiage to if we go by that theory

calm plank
#

Elune has dissapeared

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Game theory

ruby star
#

not sure what race would get hertiage from Ruins of theramore

calm plank
#

could be linked to the kul tirans

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maybe their unlock scenario

ruby star
#

That's true actually

zealous basalt
#

Hmm part of going back to Jaina and her fsther

ruby star
#

Tanann jungle also got fiddled with

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for 8.1 PTR

tulip sun
#

Huh, my thread on Sira Moonwarden got busy

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I still really like it, the idea that Sylvanas is raising night elves- even wardens

ruby star
#

Draenor also got fiddled with/updated in 8.1 PTR

tulip sun
#

Anything hinting towards light corruption?

ruby star
#

Can't see anything to do with light corruption though I could be blind 😛

calm plank
#

the light has blinded you

stiff vector
#

FYI everyone minimaps changing are not evidence of the maps themselves being changed

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They have been regenerating a lot of minimaps because of the 8.0 change to minimaps (new rendering system and 4x the size as before)

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Most of the differences between maps are lighting changes due to the new rendering system

proper compass
#

its still not up yet right.. just datamining?

royal orchid
tulip sun
#

O.o

night swift
#

God yes

tropic trail
#

If we could use heritage armor sets on other races I'd level a kul tiran human

zealous basalt
#

This is looking sweet

tulip flare
#

can someone check if they are compatible with regular&thin human body types

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i still kinda hope for body type customization for them

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:/

zealous basalt
#

They already said thin humans were only NPCs

tulip sun
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They wouldn't be a Kul tirans allied race if they couldnuse the normal bodies

tulip flare
#

i mean, horde have 2 type of orcs sharing the same body type

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why not give them normal body when %80 of kul tirans are normal body typed

tulip sun
#

The orcs have differet skin colorations

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A normal sized KT is the exact same

tulip flare
#

....and?

zealous basalt
#

If you want to play normal human, go normal human

tulip sun
#

You apparently don't get the point of ARs

tulip flare
#

i get it, it's customization.

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if blizz won't let me play a druid in normal human form

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f*** this

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game

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lol

zealous basalt
#

Good riddance?

grizzled sleet
#

Stormwind humans will never be druids

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It's not just about giving druid class to humans, KT have a back-story

tulip flare
#

are you saying there are no normal body typed thornspeaker?

zealous basalt
#

And there aren't skinny or normal human sized kt as thornspeakers

tulip flare
#

hmm?

tulip sun
#

Apparently so?

zealous basalt
#

I haven't seen a normal human KT Thornspeaker in my 3 runs through drustvar

grizzled sleet
#

Yes there isn't

zealous basalt
#

And I could go as far to say that the Thornspeakers are...more unique than just a simple KT

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I don't know if it was here about the rumour of the Thornspeakers being descendants of the Drust tribes with Kul Tiran tribes

tulip sun
#

The point of KTs is to play the larger ones

grizzled sleet
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Here is a list of KT Thornspeakers :

Ulfar
Lyssa Treewarden
Adalyn Forestwatcher
Theodor Forestwatcher
Morwin Gladeheart
Amalie Oakseeker
Apprentice Knollden
Thornspeaker Birchgrove
Arthur Tradewind

Unnamed ones :

Thornguard Shieldpaw
Thornguard Ironclaw
Injured Thornspeaker
Recovering Druid
Thornspeaker Student

You can check them one by one, they are not normal humans

tulip sun
#

Feel free to roleplay a Kul for an as a regular human

zealous basalt
#

Someone here in the comments of the post

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"They confirmed a while ago we aren't getting normal humans, or "thin" humans for the Kul'Tiran allied race. They only have those models so the game world filled with 99% of humans on Kul'Tiras feels varied. Also, there aren't thin female humans..

And more importantly, have you seen the thin humans, they look like they're in a state of constant starvation lol. They use the female undead skeleton for their model base, but without the creepy 180 degree body turn. They're hunched over and way too thin, which looks fitting for an undead, but on a human it just makes them look like a light breeze will do them in."

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In reality there shouldn't be normal or thin humans in Kul Tiras

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But they decided to because of variety in Kul'Tiras, which makes that area more "livid" compared to Zandalari

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But no

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Lorewise humans don't go well with druidic magic

tulip flare
#

none of these makes sense. ok i get it maybe it's not fitting thin humans to be playable since in game they're mostly represented as 'desperate wretch'

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but in whole continent all humans being large is a bit weird

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''In reality there shouldn't be normal or thin humans in Kul Tiras''

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how can this even happen in a reality whole nation having large body

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they're human.

zealous basalt
#

You can answer that question with another question "How come that there aren't more varied humans in the rest of Azeroth?"

strange falcon
#

fool,applying logic to wow

#

clearly a new guy here

tulip flare
#

im not applying. this guy appyling by saying ''In reality there shouldn't be normal or thin humans in Kul Tiras'' lol

zealous basalt
#

...Because they said it

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"They wanted more variety"

tulip flare
#

that players can not access to as a customization feature. gotcha

zealous basalt
#

...sigh

tulip sun
#

They sent making a special AR for normal humans.

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Sorry, but let it go

night swift
#

He doesn’t get it

tulip flare
#

great input.

dense plover
#

dude

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they made a decision

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you dont like it

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it isnt going to change

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if every race could be every class, then races would be only about racials and nothing else

#

if thats what you want, this isnt the game for you

shadow ore
#

meanwhile those who were stuck for years playing skinny humans are glad they get something different, why would you want to turn the new into the old?

dense plover
#

^

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not to mention the normal humans and kul tirans are different

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the kul tiran humans are descended from those that fought the drust in drustvar

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thats how they learned to be thornspeakers

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the tiragarde/stormsong kul tirans did not earn that honor

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they do not have the option of becoming thornspeakers because ulfar is specifically teaching those who are hardy enough and deserve it

#

also

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i cant play a maghar warlock

#

but im not complaining

#

if i wanted that

#

i would play an orc

north storm
#

we need more cute pets

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and less violence

#

to make wow cutter

shadow ore
#

which is pretty straight forward given how little a Maghar warlock would make sense

dense plover
#

^

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bingo

shadow ore
#

we need a rainbow unicorn that “flys” by running across a rainbow generated under its hooves, the perfect cute mount

north storm
#

ye

dense plover
#

these maps are awesome

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FYI, there are a bunch of soundfiles added in the ptr patch that are labeled 'zandalaripaladin'

grizzled sleet
#

These maps are for flight paths, you can zoom them

#

Other 2 maps are the ones in the big map

dense plover
#

makes sense

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still great

#

also

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zekhan has VO coming in the future

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aka zappy boi

#

'sound/creature/zekhan/vo_81_zekhan_01_m.ogg'

grizzled sleet
#

Let the Zappi boi memes flow

dense plover
#

so that might be related to breaking saurfang out

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or something along those lines

grizzled sleet
#

maybe he's the quest giver who ask you to kill the assassins

dense plover
#

nomi also has VO

grizzled sleet
tulip sun
#

@dense plover Either recorded yet?

stiff vector
#

no

#

unless they did it like last week or very recently in which case it wont be in the client yet

calm plank
#

FUCKING LONGCOATS

#

YESSSSS MAN

north storm
#

@calm plank where ?

#

whereee ?

calm plank
north storm
#

ah...this

#

eh

calm plank
#

ima fight you it's awesome

tulip sun
#

GUYS

#

I need help

#

Search for strings, I can no longer fund them anywhere

#

'sound/creature/zekhan/vo_81_zekhan_01_m.ogg'

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I need to k ow if this is real e.e

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@dense plover

uncut vault
#

Go to mmo champ and look in the strings section

tulip sun
#

It is no longer there @uncut vault

#

The string section that is

fickle stag
#

ANY RESTORATION SHAMAN BUFF ?:(

uncut vault
#

Did you take that screenshot or did someone else?

tropic trail
#

PTR isnt even woring

tulip sun
#

I am on another discord discussing. Someone linked it. We are all looking for strings

#

They seem to have vanishrd

#

I remember they were there

#

I am clueless

dense plover
#

Zekhan string is real

#

It’s currently an empty audio file

#

It might mean nothing

#

Pandaren DK Stuff is probably just nonsense

hollow dock
tulip sun
#

@dense plover Can I see a screenshot?

dense plover
#

theyre currently empty

#

and they might not get used

uncut vault
#

theres quite a few characters that have em, Cromush is finally getting his own VO

#

Nomi too

#

actual chainmail, oh lord

zealous basalt
#

Fuck

uncut vault
#

Im a bit sad the black version of the mail set has all that blue on it

#

but man am I ready

zealous basalt
#

Fuck

sullen dagger
#

hm

zealous basalt
#

Fuuck

sullen dagger
#

too much spike imho

zealous basalt
#

Do I need to have one character per race

tulip sun
#

I love the mail

zealous basalt
#

Is it incomplete as well?

#

honestly tho

#

whats up with that panda dk thing

tulip sun
#

Idk. I can't find even the list of strings

zealous basalt
#

I wonder if it was a fake

tulip sun
#

Possibly, but there still should be strings

zealous basalt
#

What if all what we saw is a fake

#

And the patch is a lie

uncut vault
#

dunno if its just a modelviewer thing, but DKs and DHs can use the night warrior skin

#

and its pretty amazing

zealous basalt
#

Ohh lord

tulip sun
#

Kinda makes no sense

#

But ok e.e

#

In-game DHs can't use gold eyes

zealous basalt
#

y no sense

#

:C i'll fite u

#

in fact

#

challenges to duel

dense plover
#

probably just model viewer

hearty reef
#

Are the new Sabre Mounts for Horde and Alli?

tulip sun
uncut vault
#

we dont know if theyre player mounts yet

plain vigil
#

Wait so I’m doing alliance war missions rn and I’m getting some nazi vibes going around destroying dig sites... what the fuck....

zealous basalt
#

Oooo Alliance can be mean too

plain vigil
#

Obvi

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But I didn’t expect doing nazo shot

#

Shit*

terse patrol
#

how is archaeology nazi shit

#

when the horde is doing archaeology shit too

uncut vault
#

mission table is dubiously canon at this point anyways

plain vigil
#

The Nazi party was natorious for destroying dig sites and archeological artifacts around the world. It’s the entire plot behind indiana jones. Te alliance is going around destroying horde dgsites @terse patrol

zealous basalt
#

I think you are getting paranoid

tropic trail
#

so PTR still isnt working

dense plover
#

yeah

#

wont be fixed until monday

shell pagoda
#

Bullshit

undone sphinx
#

anyone know whats going on with tank taunts in 8.1 ptr?

steel venture
#

more tank nerfs

undone sphinx
#

well i guess no tanks gonna play wow then

steel venture
#

because making it difficult to keep aggro is fun

#

eyetwitches.

#

im already a guardian who has difficulty with that when my fellow tank goes too ridiculous

#

pls blizz

undone sphinx
#

um not to be rude nile but gdruid rework has been garbage since legion pre patch

#

it was all your artifact in legion

#

the class hasnt worked since wod hfc. its just nobody noticed unless you tested it sans artifact

tulip sun
#

Sira confirmed horde

#

@uncut vault

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@dense plover

sudden oak
#

I cant think of a way this doesnt happen in the goofiest manner ever tbh

grizzled sleet
#

@undone sphinx gdruid just need more damage or an offensive cooldown for M+, kitting is not supposed to be a gdruid thing, but it can help to have a slow sometimes like it was on legion

#

FR need to be removed from GCD too

#

gdruid can easily be fixed, not too much rework

uncut vault
#

so Sira is one of the kaldorei dark rangers, interesting

#

glad its to do with that, and not some side effect of the night warrior stuff

undone sphinx
#

i mean that the day i logged into legion pre patch on my hc warfroged hfc gdruid and i got killed by trash in tannan

grizzled sleet
#

because legion was designed around artifacts that's why

undone sphinx
#

and then when i ran into nighthold with my bearly ap appropate artifact (and no raid gear) and pressed 0 buttons though all the trash my hp dropped 0%

sudden oak
#

I do wonder what kind of reason they will give Sira to attack her own people

grizzled sleet
#

WIth artifact you had rage of the sleeper, thrash slowing mobs and thrash can proc a second time, gdruid was doing enough dps on M+ and didn't need too much kitting except on necrotic weeks

undone sphinx
#

my guild master who saw this happen cause he went to get me (case hes nice) his littleral reaction was and i quote "what the holy F%C^"

sudden oak
#

@uncut vault what do you say her being different when she resurrects or personal grudge

undone sphinx
#

i then tried lvling a gdruid. and the whole class dint work without artifact

uncut vault
#

chances are the horde war campaign chapter will address that

#

similar to what happened with zelling

undone sphinx
#

oh and for fun i told balance druids to change to gspec for antrours hc (who had never tanked before ever) and their artifact did 100% of the tanking for tem

sudden oak
#

yeah I guess

grizzled sleet
#

Again, in legion it was designed around artifact weapon.
now, we lack few things, but they can be easily fixed, gdruid doesn't need too much rework like protection warrior

sudden oak
#

also I dont understand people saying amalia and zelling dont have free will

#

like GWqlabsNotLikeNoot

undone sphinx
#

this is not a good class design dude. you just not released how broken it was for like 2 years

uncut vault
#

Yeah people didnt pay attention if they think they dont have reasons for being where they are

sudden oak
#

when amalia is traumatized when she becomes forsaken

grizzled sleet
#

it's broken since BFA prepatch. It was fin in legion

uncut vault
#

amalia took the entire campaign just to stop being in panic mode

grizzled sleet
#

I was doing M20+ keys and it was fine

undone sphinx
#

no its been broken since legion prepatch

sudden oak
#

and zelling is thinking about his family 24/7

#

its like people dont even care about their history

#

and people just craft their own version

grizzled sleet
#

Then believe whatever you want @undone sphinx but don't expect too much rework in the next 3 years

undone sphinx
#

its not a belief if you have tested it with empirical testing

#

you have to belive in things you cant prove

grizzled sleet
#

I'm not testing a class, I'm playing it with its full potential.
And it was fine in legion, 100000% fine.

undone sphinx
#

well you were baiscaly a bot all legion:)

grizzled sleet
#

Cool

undone sphinx
#

as it did everything for you:)

#

which sucks cause i really like gdruid

#

pre legion rework

tulip sun
#

This is what the eyes will look like

#

With the effects

uncut vault
#

you sure that isnt an edit?

tulip sun
#

I am told it is legit

undone sphinx
#

that looks pretty cool:) even if that sort of effect has been a joke for ages

uncut vault
#

well its wowheads modelviewer, and wowhead would 100% talk about getting the effects in

#

atm theres no effects, so that looks like an edit

undone sphinx
#

either that or bliz are massive terry pratchet fans

sudden oak
#

I mean their eyes being starry would fit lore

#

"One of her aspects is the Night Warrior, who takes the valiant among the dead and sets them riding across the sky as stars"

inland vine
#

Curious, is the PTR up atm?

uncut vault
#

oh it definitely would, and i like that

#

but I dont think its real

#

considering something like that would be baked into the eye texture with that level of detail

#

not a special glow

undone sphinx
#

unless bliz wants us all to get new supercomputers to run the ultra 4k rending of their ideal game world by simulating every single partical in it

jovial coral
#

They must know the kind of computers the average player is using

#

Eventually everyone will have supercomputers

worn sand
#

is it just me

#

or does the zuldazar gear look odd?

#

like it doesn't look in theme at all

uncut vault
#

its bwonsamdi themed, who is part of two boss fights

worn sand
#

armour wise I get that

#

but the weapons?

#

Oh mekkatorque is in it

#

I see

calm plank
#

where are the weapons?

karmic copper
#

the leather mythic one looks alright

#

the mail one just looks bad

#

they could've made it look cool

north storm
#

stop baffling

#

only thing you do is complain, if you don't like the armor you can find another game

#

I agree that WoW is becoming a snowflakes utopia but there isn't any good game yet

mighty hill
#

im on forest mourne doing gambling

north storm
#

do the shards keep you cold ?

mighty hill
#

no

north storm
#

ok

#

than go out

#

it's my shelter you burgler.

mighty hill
#

'k bb

clever oriole
#

anyone know if the tallstrider mounts use the updated model now?

dense plover
#

we dont know

#

but its likely

jovial coral
#

I have high hopes for bwonsamdi

#

And voljin

north storm
#

@jovial coral they'll have spiritual gay sex

jovial coral
#

That would be intense

#

But unsatisfying

#

I wish there was just cinematics that's went over the fight chemistry of two characters

#

Like the MOP cinematic

#

But now it's like anduin and sylvanas or something

#

San'layn vs gnome

neat idol
#

PTR still down?

ruby star
#

Yep

lapis ivy
#

That's the impression I got, as I personally wasn't able to get in a few minutes ago

stiff vector
#

Won't be up until they push a fixed build

dense plover
#

^

fathom needle
#

any info about the dragonrider mail set on PTR?

uncut vault
#

Dunno why it would be on the ptr, it's already live

zealous basalt
#

The pants arent

#

They got ehh, idk, they weren't there the last time

#

Because it showed a very detailed butt of the character

meager warren
#

what

zealous basalt
#

The dragon rider pants

#

Had a invisible part on the butt

zinc sandal
#

Is PTR up?

meager warren
#

that's a known bug

#

unless that's not the bug, in which case, it's a slutmog

zealous basalt
#

That's what it got removed

#

Althoufh

#

It was the belt that covered the butt

meager warren
#

wat

uncut vault
#

The issue was that Blizz cut the texture off of the npc wrong, so the part covering the butt was only on the belt, and showed a full bare textured ass

#

They removed the pants altogether

meager warren
#

feisty

tulip sun
#

O.o

zealous basalt
#

oof

#

Tho

#

Dem asses were really detailed

winged heron
#

Well they are called rider for a reason

zealous basalt
#

Gigity

meager warren
#

Gigity gigity drool

grizzled sleet
zealous basalt
#

owo

#

wats dis

grizzled sleet
#

Jaina's brohter

#

brother

#

they are going to ress him as forsaken

zealous basalt
#

i see

#

I wonder how much torture will sylvanas do to him

grizzled sleet
#

I wonder if he knows that the dragon that killed him was sent by the horde or not

uncut vault
#

well, it was sent by the dragonmaw clan, the leaders of whom have been killed twice

grizzled sleet
#

so he got no reason to hate the horde right now?

zealous basalt
#

Sylvanas maybe will fill his head with stuff

#

enough to place her against her sister and mum

grizzled sleet
#

not sure about the free will part of the fosaken, but if he do have free will, what reasons could make him collaborate with the horde?

zealous basalt
#

"Ur sister killed ur dad defending us"

#

erm

#

"The orcs"

grizzled sleet
#

maybe the fact that he's the true heir is enough to get him to attack Kultiras

zealous basalt
#

Derek vs Tandred

#

Yes or nein?

grizzled sleet
#

Derek vs Jaina

sudden oak
#

I think its either a case of katherine/jaina "you are a monster not my family" or his memory is deteriorated enough to believe a couple lies

zealous basalt
#

Sylvanas or Nathanos making him believe that he is the true heir and that Jaina killed his father to help the orcs that killed him

sudden oak
#

the forsaken we recruit in the war campaing have free will so I doubt Blizzard will change that

zealous basalt
#

What are they being told to join?

steel venture
#

there shouldnt be a body for derek at all

#

still

#

like that still bothers me

#

immensely

zealous basalt
#

got retconned agen

#

something something plots

steel venture
#

bodies decay faster in water

#

the retcon doesnt even work

#

he would be a skeleton at BEST

zealous basalt
#

something something plot

sudden oak
#

Zelling joins because he has a terminal illness and had to take care of his family

zealous basalt
#

something something 🅱ias

sudden oak
#

Since they are poor

zealous basalt
#

but was he raised from dead?

sudden oak
#

We talk to him before dying and says he wants to be forsaken

zealous basalt
#

ah

sudden oak
#

So his family will live

uncut vault
#

I mean, theyve definitely been setting up that most humans arent like anduin, and dont see forsaken as people

#

kul tirans especially

sudden oak
#

With Amalia we kill her and she is traumatized most of the time when we rise her

#

After a time of Voss helping her and killing a couple of kultirans she has a personal grudge with she is a bit ok

#

But still she wants to be as far from kultiras as possible

#

And zelling is thinking of his family 24/7

zealous basalt
#

Ah

sudden oak
#

tbh I still call bs on greymane acknowledging that forsaken are people and not monsters with just looking at one exchange that didnt go bad @uncut vault

#

what do you say

steel venture
#

ngl i think he was trying to save face with anduin

#

and only considered that handful of forsaken as "Not Monsters™"

#

which the desolate council was a vocal minority.
others like them prefer to keep their heads down and keep their mouths shut

sudden oak
#

and most of the forsaken know that the ones that went to the gathering were very lucky since most humans are like roggers would want nothing to do with their former family

uncut vault
#

ayy, looks like we might get music in a build or two

#

also, nomi being a psychopath isnt just a community meme

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Cooking: Impossible - Directory: CookingImpossible. Type: Battleground. Description: "Nom nom nom". "This brawl takes place in the Valley of the Four Winds Cooking: Impossible is a 10 flag capture style battle". PvP Objective: "Complete Nomi's Chili Recipe". PvP Description: "- Gather Ingredients from the Valley and bring them to Nomi - First to gather 10 Ingredients wins - Dying or being Stunned will cause you to drop the Ingredients".

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hes making us fight to the death for chili

zealous basalt
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...

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Nomi

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Why

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So its a new brawl?

uncut vault
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yeah probably

terse patrol
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The only way I could see Derek helping is if his brain is seriously fucked from decomposition.

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He’s been rotting longer than basically all current Forsaken.

uncut vault
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xalatath seems to be tied to the Crucible raid

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8.1 SoS PreRaid - Dagger - Revival Point (msc) (New)

zealous basalt
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Inb4 Xal is actually a tsundere waifu

terse patrol
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uwu

zealous basalt
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She gonna take the form of a void elf

meager warren
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Nomi being a psychopath isnt just a community meme

What

uncut vault
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its a popular community joke that nomi purposefully burns things

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and is insane

meager warren
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i mean

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she kinda has to, as a cook?

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or is that the joke

zealous basalt
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He

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And thing is

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from 10 thigns

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things*

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he burns 7-8

meager warren
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wat

zealous basalt
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And the sad part is if you did MoP

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You teach Nomi to cook

meager warren
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oof

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tfw nomi only knows undead cooking

zealous basalt
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@uncut vault Nomi only knows darnassian cooking

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Because he burns everything

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HAAAA

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...2 soon?

meager warren
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nice

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but yes

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it will always be too soon

uncut vault
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@ruby star Something I think you'd be interested in, MMO-champs modelviewer on the PTR seems to have isolated elf eyes from the skin tone, you can now have blue or gold eyes with any skin tone. Faces 10-19 of the NPC options are blue, with all the normal belf face options

sudden oak
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is this the final nail in the coffin of the high elf allied race?

uncut vault
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thinking about it (and looking at some of them more), looks like theyre modified DK faces, with no glow. They might be for the belf heritage scenario, but having all that ready is interesting.

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a new glow, rather

ruby star
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Oh interesting

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It might link into what we found a while ago then

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The highelf_skin_03_C:A used to be highelf_skin_03_C_1

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Now it got updated/fiddled with however All I saw changed was Blood elf underwear removed

uncut vault
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since it seems like a lotta work just for the scenario, maybe theyre setting up for helf units in the warfront

ruby star
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That's rather interesting what you suggest Portergauge 🤔 and true

uncut vault
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make em more diverse than the same three skin tones

ruby star
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Yeah, just gotta wait and see through 8.1 PTR builds if anything else happens

sudden oak
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I dont think it will be for the next warfront atleast

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if the Silvermoon warfront happens

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then they must be there

ruby star
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I think if silvermoon warfront happens (doesnt get cut) it will be at end of BFA as it is a captial city

sudden oak
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but I do wonder if it happens

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would it be eastern plaguelands/ghostlands

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or ghostlands/eversong woods

uncut vault
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ghostlands/eversong woods most likely, since it splits horde into eversong, and alliance into ghostlands well, in one wide instance

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  • 2/3 of the likely commanders lived in whats now the ghostlands
ruby star
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Aye, it also depends, they might revamp most of Quel'thalas if they bring it back into Azeroth server

calm garden
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If blizz did that it would be cool

sudden oak
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also I think Nathanos will be a general for the darkshore warfront

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since he is doing stuff in darkshore

ruby star
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@uncut vault to be fair, the blood elf scenario, if its back in time, then having blue eyes at that moment makes sense. However I don't think Blood elves will get it as an eye customisation as it wouldn't make sense

sudden oak
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I mean the sunwell now is a mix of holy and arcane energy

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the magisters that use the arcane but not the light would get back their blue eyes

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and paladins/priest will get yellow ones

ruby star
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"Sunwell shone once again, now a fount of both arcane power and Holy Light. With the Sunwell's rebirth, the Blood Knights — an order of blood elf paladins who once wielded the Light by force — have decided instead to embrace it and to forge a new identity as they lead their people into a more promising future" according to gamepedia, which means from my perspective Blood elves are moving away from the fel (not going back ti arcane either)

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And going more light

uncut vault
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Yeah I dont think its a player option, female eyes would probably get tweaked a bit if that were the case

sudden oak
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Im not sure the rommath and the magisters would be very happy about that Quel'thalas is a kingdom of magic and they are masters of the arcane

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it would be similar to the nightborne to go back to elune out of nowhere

uncut vault
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nightborne still worship elune to a degree

sudden oak
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yeah but its not something a 99% of the population follow like the ancient night elf empire and our current night elves

ruby star
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I personally don't think they'll give Blood Elf blue eyes, it would dilute the High elves and dilute the blood elve. Blood elves story is moving on (from fel to now light)

sudden oak
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I do think the blood elves will still rely on the arcane like the nightborne but not just the arcane like they did before

ruby star
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I think Porter the NPCS will have blue eyes, as its being back in time and all, wouldn't make sense to have fel eyes 😃

stiff vector
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@ruby star I have no records of those highelf skins, where are those from?

ruby star
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@stiff vector Someone uses a tool called WDTC or something (some sort of datamining tool or something I guess), I don't have it myself.

stiff vector
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Not sure that is legitimate then

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No files by those names since at least 6.0

neat idol
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Sorry for bothering, but PTR serves still down, right? I still get Fatal Error everytime I put play on Bnet's PTR

stiff vector
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Yeah, wait for a new build

neat idol
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So last build was just to get datamined?

stiff vector
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Probably, yeah

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I doubt they pushed that with the intention of it being playable