#beta-ptr-spoilers
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She got tentacles
she is a bitter bitch because odyn
but she isnt stupid
not everything with tentacles is old god related
Drenak have goat hooves what's your point ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
I would honestly like if the new undead sira was a horde warfronts commander
And Delaryn too
but to be fair I could see helya whispering to Vol'jin to make Sylvanas warchief
so she cant take advantage from the bargain she has with her
Who?
you mean sira or helya?
Helya
She means Helya
She also hold Heilheim which is a dead domain
oooh, tentacles ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@plain vigil wat
I know what you are thinking right now
She's still alive I think
gamepedia say Status : Unknown because of a quest
<A light mist twists and curls around this ring as if caressing it.
Holding this object makes you uneasy, deep within your soul. It feels as if invisible, icy hands from the lands of the dead are pulling at you.
There is no mistaking Helya's power.
The Valarjar will want to hear about this.>
@meager warren hm
One of the valarjar
Yup
Said that indeed, Helya was still alive
about the goathooves
There are lots of things still to be done regarding the isle expeditions
Another ring? Hmph. Yes, we have been seeing them more frequently.
<Valdemar grimaces.>
Helya is growing in power.
What, small one, are you surprised? Did you think she was defeated?
<Valdemar laughs heartily.>
You cannot kill death!
I thank you for making me laugh today, little friend.
Odyn has heard about your search for Azerite, we have gathered what we could.
Here, it is yours.
"Did you think she was defeated?
<Valdemar laughs heartily.>
You cannot kill death!"
"You cannot kill Death"
CHALLENGE ACCEPTED
That is going to be hard
I don''t think he expects helya to be alie
Damn
Damn
Is she still alive
Yup
Ya, Maiev looks normal
She was added this patch
Seems to be a target in the Warfront
They will end up killing all wardens I'm sure
I wonder who will be the generals in the darkshore warfront
SHe will end up dying too, maybe not in BFA
I think nathanos will be one
Blizzard hate wardens
I am thinking Maiev for darkshore wzrfront
Lasan?
By the way there is a secret unsolved about wardens
.
those secretive little wankers
i feel very offended that you feel they have to tell us
Maybe Sira will do 

I mean we are helping them with their problem in the Vault of the wardens maybe sharing something that could help us would be a nice way to say thanks
^
Nelves be nelves
Wardens be Wardens
Nice to see Maiev Alliance side again.
It sure is
Who was it in here who was adamant about the Wardens being neutral?
When their lore specifically states they’re the jailers and secret police of the Kaldorei.
Well
Again
I think Blizzard brushed that under the rug
Legion felt like a soft retcon for Maiev
😱
I think Maeiv as commander of the Alliance and Sira as horde commandeer
I don’t like it
😱 😱 😱 😱
That would make sense
...
Sure it would
I

It proves Sylvanas isn’t giving the new Forsaken free will.
...
dont know what to say
There is something called Dagger realm
Sylvanas destroys their homes, burns their holy places, kills innocents
Not to mention
Wtf is that dagger
a map : DaggerRealm - Dagger Realm
So
Some go insane at least a little when raised
Knaifu
“i’ll totally serve you sylvanas” -Delaryn
Stops being knaifu?
She has a realm now
Knifu
"willingly choose the Horde"
hmmm, i wonder why they'd do that.
couldn't be because they lost their free will
She he waifu there
Or its because they have no free will, and Hordies are fooling themselves
Zelling willingly became forsaken
^
doesn't mean he has free will now
I don't see it happening
Or
I mean we dont know yet she truly becomes forsaken
She will still be Delaryn, try to tell the alliance who shee is and they don't believe her
I don't think you understand they change drastically when undeadifiwd
The Horde looks for her body, and alerts Nathanos when you find it
maybe they are just using the corpse as bait
Pretty sure he prolly raises her
just like with derek
forsaken with free will, like that one daughter of a scarlet crusade leader i can't remember the name of, are rare
@grizzled sleet Then she’d take the undead elves and make her own faction.
Lillian Voss
Why the hell would she serve SYLVANAS.
ahh yes
because we dont know if she is even serving her
Lol
There is no undead elves, Nathanos will only succed to raise Delaryn.
What about Sira then?
We stop him from raising an army of Nightelves
Because she’s definitely undead now.
we dont know if she is undead either
...
yes, i mean Voss.
Also, very few people with actual morals would serve Sylvanas willingly.
so if they do serve sylvanas, it's because they lost their free will or because bad writing
Well she could be corrupted
just changing the color of her armor doesnt mean that she is undead
Nowhere to Run - Hunt down Nathanos Blightcaller.
Nowhere to Hide - Find Nathanos Blightcaller nearby.
The Queen's Pawn - Intervene before Nathanos raises the fallen as forsaken.
Eyes of the Forest - Return to the fleet and scout the Horde army.
he will not raise too many
maybe just those 2
like how lillian voss is helping the horde this expac
They at least raise Sira
And the Horde player has a command to raise nameless dark rangers from nelf corpses
So more than 2
^
Well, only time will tell
wat
We are not jesus christ who can see through time
We are not Chromie
Patience is key
don't mention religious stuff here pls
Should wait for data mining to be completed
I mean
We are making inferences on very good dsta
I am with kham
I like to make theories when I find stuff out to stall my boredom e.e
Ya, considering there is no model for her
That too
Yeah that is right because I couldn't find it
Ya, I looked after I saw Sira
Yup
lol
Porter had to of been just randomly searching npcs to find Sira
So
Mekkatorque might still die
"We're gonna show Mekkatorque that we ain't so stupid after all. Once his ship's on fire, we'll land on it and send out one of them SOS things.
He's gonna be flying back, and I bet he'll be all, oh no, I've been outwitted by Gallywix, he destroyed my ship, I better save everyone!
Then when he gets there he'll see us and realize he's been DOUBLE outwitted! HAH!"
So, Horde lights his ship on fire, Mekkatorque flies away in his escape pod and right into a trap
if someone from the alliance side dies I will be greatly surprised tbh
But didn't read that deep
@terse patrol nah he has an escape pod in his escape mech
If he dies there will be criticism over the gnome lore and replacement issues
The only two who could replace him are Tinkmaster Overspark and Kelsey Steelspark.
I dont like it
Killing the one gnome with any real lore behind them just so the Horde feel ok about losing Rastakhan.
Or maybe some people would replace him with ManaStorm
But I don't see that happening
imo
the horde shouldn't be losing Rastakhan so soon. it's stupid and cliche since they've lost so many people already
and the alliance has lost too many as well but not as many
Well then what to do what to do....
sure that's the title of the expac, but the context is "another meaningless reason to continue the stupid faction war"
Well there could be chances for peace
there's been chances for peace since after Orcs and Humans
Like the end at of this xpac the old gods might show up and maybe they would work together to purge them away from azeroth
The Horde and Alliance have worked together in the past.
But at the end of the day, they always, ALWAYS, find some other inane reason to keep fighting
Whats sad is if that Chinese leak ends up being true, Mekkatorque dies feeling like he failed his people.
oof
Omg
Are you bloody serious right now
Yup its time for another shit show
I see it coming right now
In the Before the Storm book, Sylvanas and Saurfang have a conversation about it. I don't like her logic, but there's some form of logic. "How long do you think this peace will last? Ten years? A hundred?"
The gnomes dont need Mekkatorque to be replaced by a meme like Manastorm.
So she's thinking "Big Picture."
😐
Maybe
Nice.
Not finding anybody else interesting sadly
But I can see a shit show coming up
what shit show
About Mekkatorque getting oof'd
why would that start a shitshow
do you mean fans or fanatics
nah, i don't think that would surprise them since the gnomes are always let down somehow
Rip
Ah
Dont worry
They’re adding a whole new allied race of gnomes to disappoint us with.
“Here, have them. We won’t build on their lore ever.”
Is there new evidence?
no but that wouldn't surprise me
“Also have a Gnomeregan Pet Battle Dungeon to make Mekkatorques death go by better Alliance”
The junkyard in Tiragarde Sound. @tulip sun
"you want more gnome lore? too bad, have another allied race you'll grow tired of after a month"
All new unique gnome assets
Special gnome assets
With anchors on the cogs and stuff
Velen is someplace new in 8.1
Some think they might be cyborg gnomes
.
cyborg gnomes would be cool.
but that should be an option for normal gnomes, not an allied race
i agree but i wouldnt be surprised at this point
and it would fit more than other allied races being options for the default races because some gnomes are actually cyborgs
well bliz is dumb so i agree
LFD should be a reskin for spacegoats
Tired of gnomes being neglected by Blizzard
i bet they'll pull a "you want high elves, the horde is there waiting for you" for gnomes getting more lore
we can always trust bliz to be pretentious
Some people think blizz is Activision
it's worse in some ways and better in others
inb4 they give the horde the new gnomes, and start doing lots of lore for the new gnomes
Leaving the Alliance gnomes in the dust
xd
Lel
"The new gnome allied race is a group of renegade cyber-gnomes that left the alliance because they disagreed with [tyrannical alliance leader, assuming they ever even had one] and joined the horde for some reason, as if that's somehow better"
Called it
you saw it here first, folks
Hahahaha
so
jorundall and havenswood
are they explored yet ?
or just the maps are available ?
it seems to be the new nelf eyes
nice
correction: they aren't just new eyes, it is its own skin tone
which is interdasting
uh...ok
thanks draw
but those eyes look funny
will you please datamine havenswood and jorundall please ?
I wanna see Havenswood so badly
i hope night elves get better hairstyles and facial hair for the males as well.
I want to look like a wildman, not an amish guy
https://old.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/9hwgcp/in_light_of_the_recent_81_news/?st=jmd3ki47&sh=9eff4a37
those sets are fucking lit
Dataminers, any changes on Kul Tirans? like customization/body options...?
https://newmaps.marlam.in/AssualtOnStormwind/174/8/-5.027/2.688 AssualtOnStormwind added in 8.1 PTR, though uses old stormwind Cata map, interesting
oh lovely. someone destroyed the park district again.
to me, pre-legion map = a slight mistake that additionally implies the scenario is only happening in this area of the city (otherwise they would have noticed)
Are ptr realms online? I get a fatal error everytime i try to log in
What could be the reason? They aren't open to everyone yet?
they are not open yet
Good morning
hello there
What is up
not ptr
Morning!
in other news we got 3/4 siege of zuldazar sets
I was looking on the online map viewer and saw a lot of stuff was fiddled with in 8.1 PTR
Battle for Gilneas,Ruins of Theramore,new one called Assault on stormwind, VoildElf map fiddled with(Northern lorderaron) etc
Not sure what they fiddled with for BoG and RoT
Worgen scenario?
https://newmaps.marlam.in/VoildElf/174/8/-1.891/3.059 they removed the trees from here, last fiddled with 7.3.5 now fiddled with on 8.1
blizz pls bring back gilneas
Not sure what they're doing
Removing trees in northern lordaeron harbour bit, could be to add more buildings
Looks like a Goblin thing
Oil Rig?
one goblin two forsakens and something else
plagued
Oof
and then there's this place up north
More plague
guys in the horde version of the map that goblin thing is gone
replaced by this
this place acts like nothing ever happened
That reminds me of teldrassil
Nani
got a load of updates
wtf
there's a place called "HallOfCommunion(Destroyed)"
got updated into something completly different
A lot of maps have been updated/fiddled in 8.1 it seems
https://newmaps.marlam.in/HallOfCommunion(Destroyed)/154/7/-3.840/2.898 look at the different versions
At gym on phone, will check when home
Sure
Might get destoryed in 8.1 then 🤔
well all are labeled as 8.1.something
Oh is the hall of the heart?
it definitely looks titan made
and there's a shitload of azerite in the last one
wait a minute
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/406285497846071306/493035592964112385/unknown.png remember that platform
it's from the motherlode
Kezan exploding 
Agen
The upper part?
the real one? what is the other one?
O
ah it's not a hub, it's just part of the quests to unlock them
Nopee
well this place has never been used
What he sado
oh
The north part of lordaeron is greenwood pass
I think
Its interestng how they started working on it again in PTR 8.1 1st build
Last they worked on it was 7.3.5 ptr
yup
My personal theory is they're now working on it for High elves, however I could be wrong, gonna keep an eye on it
As ptr builds come out
BOI
Could be for blood elf heritage armour quest
Someone replaced Nazjatar map with Zug Zug
More orcs coming
A L L I A N C E O R C
Does Vantus runes give more stats with upcoming raids or it's fixed for the whole expansion?
There is a graveyard named
8.1 SoS PreRaid - Dagger - Revival Point (msc)
Must be related to DaggerRealm - Dagger Realm
Which is related to https://ptr.wowhead.com/item=164761/xalatath-blade-of-the-black-empire
So quests involving Xal'Atath are the pre-raid quests of the second raid?
That would make sense
you do not trash the knaifu waifu
Only these map file stuff (unless you haven't seen the 8.1 datamined stuff Khamnin) 😄
don't trash talk the knaifu
...think we are going to see maraad again if that happens?
or she will end your laifu
I see we found the night warrior customization
yup
They be now new moon
pretty hyped about that
Battle For Gilineas (got updated in 8.1 PTR) so like someone menointed above, could be for Worgen heritage armour
Rather than full moon
Ruins of Theramore, could be for hertiage to if we go by that theory
not sure what race would get hertiage from Ruins of theramore
That's true actually
Hmm part of going back to Jaina and her fsther
Huh, my thread on Sira Moonwarden got busy
I still really like it, the idea that Sylvanas is raising night elves- even wardens
Draenor also got fiddled with/updated in 8.1 PTR
Anything hinting towards light corruption?
Can't see anything to do with light corruption though I could be blind 😛
the light has blinded you
FYI everyone minimaps changing are not evidence of the maps themselves being changed
They have been regenerating a lot of minimaps because of the 8.0 change to minimaps (new rendering system and 4x the size as before)
8.1 has the most regenned old maps so far in 8.x http://marlamin.com/minimaps/?history=1
Most of the differences between maps are lighting changes due to the new rendering system
its still not up yet right.. just datamining?
Kultiran Heritage Armor Set... https://twitter.com/Stiven_SRB/status/1043534314980425728
O.o
God yes
If we could use heritage armor sets on other races I'd level a kul tiran human
This is looking sweet
can someone check if they are compatible with regular&thin human body types
i still kinda hope for body type customization for them
:/
They already said thin humans were only NPCs
They wouldn't be a Kul tirans allied race if they couldnuse the normal bodies
i mean, horde have 2 type of orcs sharing the same body type
why not give them normal body when %80 of kul tirans are normal body typed
....and?
If you want to play normal human, go normal human
You apparently don't get the point of ARs
i get it, it's customization.
if blizz won't let me play a druid in normal human form
f*** this
game
lol
Good riddance?
Stormwind humans will never be druids
It's not just about giving druid class to humans, KT have a back-story
are you saying there are no normal body typed thornspeaker?
And there aren't skinny or normal human sized kt as thornspeakers
hmm?
Apparently so?
I haven't seen a normal human KT Thornspeaker in my 3 runs through drustvar
Yes there isn't
And I could go as far to say that the Thornspeakers are...more unique than just a simple KT
I don't know if it was here about the rumour of the Thornspeakers being descendants of the Drust tribes with Kul Tiran tribes
The point of KTs is to play the larger ones
Here is a list of KT Thornspeakers :
Ulfar
Lyssa Treewarden
Adalyn Forestwatcher
Theodor Forestwatcher
Morwin Gladeheart
Amalie Oakseeker
Apprentice Knollden
Thornspeaker Birchgrove
Arthur Tradewind
Unnamed ones :
Thornguard Shieldpaw
Thornguard Ironclaw
Injured Thornspeaker
Recovering Druid
Thornspeaker Student
You can check them one by one, they are not normal humans
Feel free to roleplay a Kul for an as a regular human
Someone here in the comments of the post
"They confirmed a while ago we aren't getting normal humans, or "thin" humans for the Kul'Tiran allied race. They only have those models so the game world filled with 99% of humans on Kul'Tiras feels varied. Also, there aren't thin female humans..
And more importantly, have you seen the thin humans, they look like they're in a state of constant starvation lol. They use the female undead skeleton for their model base, but without the creepy 180 degree body turn. They're hunched over and way too thin, which looks fitting for an undead, but on a human it just makes them look like a light breeze will do them in."
In reality there shouldn't be normal or thin humans in Kul Tiras
But they decided to because of variety in Kul'Tiras, which makes that area more "livid" compared to Zandalari
But no
Lorewise humans don't go well with druidic magic
none of these makes sense. ok i get it maybe it's not fitting thin humans to be playable since in game they're mostly represented as 'desperate wretch'
but in whole continent all humans being large is a bit weird
''In reality there shouldn't be normal or thin humans in Kul Tiras''
how can this even happen in a reality whole nation having large body
they're human.
You can answer that question with another question "How come that there aren't more varied humans in the rest of Azeroth?"
im not applying. this guy appyling by saying ''In reality there shouldn't be normal or thin humans in Kul Tiras'' lol
that players can not access to as a customization feature. gotcha
...sigh
He doesn’t get it
great input.
dude
they made a decision
you dont like it
it isnt going to change
if every race could be every class, then races would be only about racials and nothing else
if thats what you want, this isnt the game for you
meanwhile those who were stuck for years playing skinny humans are glad they get something different, why would you want to turn the new into the old?
^
not to mention the normal humans and kul tirans are different
the kul tiran humans are descended from those that fought the drust in drustvar
thats how they learned to be thornspeakers
the tiragarde/stormsong kul tirans did not earn that honor
they do not have the option of becoming thornspeakers because ulfar is specifically teaching those who are hardy enough and deserve it
also
i cant play a maghar warlock
but im not complaining
if i wanted that
i would play an orc
which is pretty straight forward given how little a Maghar warlock would make sense
we need a rainbow unicorn that “flys” by running across a rainbow generated under its hooves, the perfect cute mount
ye
these maps are awesome
FYI, there are a bunch of soundfiles added in the ptr patch that are labeled 'zandalaripaladin'
These maps are for flight paths, you can zoom them
Other 2 maps are the ones in the big map
makes sense
still great
also
zekhan has VO coming in the future
aka zappy boi
'sound/creature/zekhan/vo_81_zekhan_01_m.ogg'
Let the Zappi boi memes flow
maybe he's the quest giver who ask you to kill the assassins
nomi also has VO
@dense plover Either recorded yet?
no
unless they did it like last week or very recently in which case it wont be in the client yet
ima fight you it's awesome
GUYS
I need help
Search for strings, I can no longer fund them anywhere
'sound/creature/zekhan/vo_81_zekhan_01_m.ogg'
I need to k ow if this is real e.e
@dense plover
Go to mmo champ and look in the strings section
ANY RESTORATION SHAMAN BUFF ?:(
Did you take that screenshot or did someone else?
PTR isnt even woring
I am on another discord discussing. Someone linked it. We are all looking for strings
They seem to have vanishrd
I remember they were there
I am clueless
Zekhan string is real
It’s currently an empty audio file
It might mean nothing
Pandaren DK Stuff is probably just nonsense
@dense plover Can I see a screenshot?
theres quite a few characters that have em, Cromush is finally getting his own VO
Nomi too
actual chainmail, oh lord
Fuck
Im a bit sad the black version of the mail set has all that blue on it
but man am I ready
Fuck
hm
Fuuck
too much spike imho
Do I need to have one character per race
I love the mail
Idk. I can't find even the list of strings
I wonder if it was a fake
Possibly, but there still should be strings
dunno if its just a modelviewer thing, but DKs and DHs can use the night warrior skin
and its pretty amazing
Ohh lord
probably just model viewer
Are the new Sabre Mounts for Horde and Alli?
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we dont know if theyre player mounts yet
Wait so I’m doing alliance war missions rn and I’m getting some nazi vibes going around destroying dig sites... what the fuck....
Oooo Alliance can be mean too
mission table is dubiously canon at this point anyways
The Nazi party was natorious for destroying dig sites and archeological artifacts around the world. It’s the entire plot behind indiana jones. Te alliance is going around destroying horde dgsites @terse patrol
I think you are getting paranoid
so PTR still isnt working
Bullshit
anyone know whats going on with tank taunts in 8.1 ptr?
more tank nerfs
well i guess no tanks gonna play wow then
because making it difficult to keep aggro is fun
eyetwitches.
im already a guardian who has difficulty with that when my fellow tank goes too ridiculous
pls blizz
um not to be rude nile but gdruid rework has been garbage since legion pre patch
it was all your artifact in legion
the class hasnt worked since wod hfc. its just nobody noticed unless you tested it sans artifact
Sira confirmed horde
@uncut vault
@dense plover
I cant think of a way this doesnt happen in the goofiest manner ever tbh
@undone sphinx gdruid just need more damage or an offensive cooldown for M+, kitting is not supposed to be a gdruid thing, but it can help to have a slow sometimes like it was on legion
FR need to be removed from GCD too
gdruid can easily be fixed, not too much rework
so Sira is one of the kaldorei dark rangers, interesting
glad its to do with that, and not some side effect of the night warrior stuff
i mean that the day i logged into legion pre patch on my hc warfroged hfc gdruid and i got killed by trash in tannan
because legion was designed around artifacts that's why
and then when i ran into nighthold with my bearly ap appropate artifact (and no raid gear) and pressed 0 buttons though all the trash my hp dropped 0%
I do wonder what kind of reason they will give Sira to attack her own people
WIth artifact you had rage of the sleeper, thrash slowing mobs and thrash can proc a second time, gdruid was doing enough dps on M+ and didn't need too much kitting except on necrotic weeks
my guild master who saw this happen cause he went to get me (case hes nice) his littleral reaction was and i quote "what the holy F%C^"
@uncut vault what do you say her being different when she resurrects or personal grudge
i then tried lvling a gdruid. and the whole class dint work without artifact
chances are the horde war campaign chapter will address that
similar to what happened with zelling
oh and for fun i told balance druids to change to gspec for antrours hc (who had never tanked before ever) and their artifact did 100% of the tanking for tem
yeah I guess
Again, in legion it was designed around artifact weapon.
now, we lack few things, but they can be easily fixed, gdruid doesn't need too much rework like protection warrior
this is not a good class design dude. you just not released how broken it was for like 2 years
Yeah people didnt pay attention if they think they dont have reasons for being where they are
when amalia is traumatized when she becomes forsaken
it's broken since BFA prepatch. It was fin in legion
amalia took the entire campaign just to stop being in panic mode
I was doing M20+ keys and it was fine
no its been broken since legion prepatch
and zelling is thinking about his family 24/7
its like people dont even care about their history
and people just craft their own version
Then believe whatever you want @undone sphinx but don't expect too much rework in the next 3 years
its not a belief if you have tested it with empirical testing
you have to belive in things you cant prove
I'm not testing a class, I'm playing it with its full potential.
And it was fine in legion, 100000% fine.
well you were baiscaly a bot all legion:)
Cool
as it did everything for you:)
which sucks cause i really like gdruid
pre legion rework
you sure that isnt an edit?
I am told it is legit
that looks pretty cool:) even if that sort of effect has been a joke for ages
well its wowheads modelviewer, and wowhead would 100% talk about getting the effects in
atm theres no effects, so that looks like an edit
either that or bliz are massive terry pratchet fans
I mean their eyes being starry would fit lore
"One of her aspects is the Night Warrior, who takes the valiant among the dead and sets them riding across the sky as stars"
Curious, is the PTR up atm?
oh it definitely would, and i like that
but I dont think its real
considering something like that would be baked into the eye texture with that level of detail
not a special glow
unless bliz wants us all to get new supercomputers to run the ultra 4k rending of their ideal game world by simulating every single partical in it
They must know the kind of computers the average player is using
Eventually everyone will have supercomputers
is it just me
or does the zuldazar gear look odd?
like it doesn't look in theme at all
its bwonsamdi themed, who is part of two boss fights
where are the weapons?
the leather mythic one looks alright
the mail one just looks bad
they could've made it look cool
stop baffling
only thing you do is complain, if you don't like the armor you can find another game
I agree that WoW is becoming a snowflakes utopia but there isn't any good game yet
im on forest mourne doing gambling
do the shards keep you cold ?
no
'k bb
anyone know if the tallstrider mounts use the updated model now?
@jovial coral they'll have spiritual gay sex
That would be intense
But unsatisfying
I wish there was just cinematics that's went over the fight chemistry of two characters
Like the MOP cinematic
But now it's like anduin and sylvanas or something
San'layn vs gnome
PTR still down?
Yep
That's the impression I got, as I personally wasn't able to get in a few minutes ago
Won't be up until they push a fixed build
^
any info about the dragonrider mail set on PTR?
Dunno why it would be on the ptr, it's already live
The pants arent
They got ehh, idk, they weren't there the last time
Because it showed a very detailed butt of the character
what
Is PTR up?
wat
The issue was that Blizz cut the texture off of the npc wrong, so the part covering the butt was only on the belt, and showed a full bare textured ass
They removed the pants altogether
feisty
O.o
Well they are called rider for a reason
Gigity
Gigity gigity drool
I wonder if he knows that the dragon that killed him was sent by the horde or not
well, it was sent by the dragonmaw clan, the leaders of whom have been killed twice
so he got no reason to hate the horde right now?
Sylvanas maybe will fill his head with stuff
enough to place her against her sister and mum
not sure about the free will part of the fosaken, but if he do have free will, what reasons could make him collaborate with the horde?
maybe the fact that he's the true heir is enough to get him to attack Kultiras
Derek vs Jaina
I think its either a case of katherine/jaina "you are a monster not my family" or his memory is deteriorated enough to believe a couple lies
Sylvanas or Nathanos making him believe that he is the true heir and that Jaina killed his father to help the orcs that killed him
the forsaken we recruit in the war campaing have free will so I doubt Blizzard will change that
What are they being told to join?
there shouldnt be a body for derek at all
still
like that still bothers me
immensely
bodies decay faster in water
the retcon doesnt even work
he would be a skeleton at BEST
something something plot
Zelling joins because he has a terminal illness and had to take care of his family
something something 🅱ias
Since they are poor
but was he raised from dead?
We talk to him before dying and says he wants to be forsaken
ah
So his family will live
I mean, theyve definitely been setting up that most humans arent like anduin, and dont see forsaken as people
kul tirans especially
With Amalia we kill her and she is traumatized most of the time when we rise her
After a time of Voss helping her and killing a couple of kultirans she has a personal grudge with she is a bit ok
But still she wants to be as far from kultiras as possible
And zelling is thinking of his family 24/7
Ah
tbh I still call bs on greymane acknowledging that forsaken are people and not monsters with just looking at one exchange that didnt go bad @uncut vault
what do you say
ngl i think he was trying to save face with anduin
and only considered that handful of forsaken as "Not Monsters™"
which the desolate council was a vocal minority.
others like them prefer to keep their heads down and keep their mouths shut
and most of the forsaken know that the ones that went to the gathering were very lucky since most humans are like roggers would want nothing to do with their former family
ayy, looks like we might get music in a build or two
also, nomi being a psychopath isnt just a community meme
Cooking: Impossible - Directory: CookingImpossible. Type: Battleground. Description: "Nom nom nom". "This brawl takes place in the Valley of the Four Winds Cooking: Impossible is a 10 flag capture style battle". PvP Objective: "Complete Nomi's Chili Recipe". PvP Description: "- Gather Ingredients from the Valley and bring them to Nomi - First to gather 10 Ingredients wins - Dying or being Stunned will cause you to drop the Ingredients".
hes making us fight to the death for chili
yeah probably
The only way I could see Derek helping is if his brain is seriously fucked from decomposition.
He’s been rotting longer than basically all current Forsaken.
xalatath seems to be tied to the Crucible raid
8.1 SoS PreRaid - Dagger - Revival Point (msc) (New)
Inb4 Xal is actually a tsundere waifu
uwu
She gonna take the form of a void elf
Nomi being a psychopath isnt just a community meme
What
wat
@uncut vault Nomi only knows darnassian cooking
Because he burns everything
HAAAA
...2 soon?
@ruby star Something I think you'd be interested in, MMO-champs modelviewer on the PTR seems to have isolated elf eyes from the skin tone, you can now have blue or gold eyes with any skin tone. Faces 10-19 of the NPC options are blue, with all the normal belf face options
is this the final nail in the coffin of the high elf allied race?
thinking about it (and looking at some of them more), looks like theyre modified DK faces, with no glow. They might be for the belf heritage scenario, but having all that ready is interesting.
a new glow, rather
Oh interesting
It might link into what we found a while ago then
The highelf_skin_03_C:A used to be highelf_skin_03_C_1
Now it got updated/fiddled with however All I saw changed was Blood elf underwear removed
since it seems like a lotta work just for the scenario, maybe theyre setting up for helf units in the warfront
That's rather interesting what you suggest Portergauge 🤔 and true
make em more diverse than the same three skin tones
Yeah, just gotta wait and see through 8.1 PTR builds if anything else happens
I dont think it will be for the next warfront atleast
if the Silvermoon warfront happens
then they must be there
I think if silvermoon warfront happens (doesnt get cut) it will be at end of BFA as it is a captial city
but I do wonder if it happens
would it be eastern plaguelands/ghostlands
or ghostlands/eversong woods
ghostlands/eversong woods most likely, since it splits horde into eversong, and alliance into ghostlands well, in one wide instance
- 2/3 of the likely commanders lived in whats now the ghostlands
Aye, it also depends, they might revamp most of Quel'thalas if they bring it back into Azeroth server
If blizz did that it would be cool
also I think Nathanos will be a general for the darkshore warfront
since he is doing stuff in darkshore
@uncut vault to be fair, the blood elf scenario, if its back in time, then having blue eyes at that moment makes sense. However I don't think Blood elves will get it as an eye customisation as it wouldn't make sense
I mean the sunwell now is a mix of holy and arcane energy
the magisters that use the arcane but not the light would get back their blue eyes
and paladins/priest will get yellow ones
"Sunwell shone once again, now a fount of both arcane power and Holy Light. With the Sunwell's rebirth, the Blood Knights — an order of blood elf paladins who once wielded the Light by force — have decided instead to embrace it and to forge a new identity as they lead their people into a more promising future" according to gamepedia, which means from my perspective Blood elves are moving away from the fel (not going back ti arcane either)
And going more light
Yeah I dont think its a player option, female eyes would probably get tweaked a bit if that were the case
Im not sure the rommath and the magisters would be very happy about that Quel'thalas is a kingdom of magic and they are masters of the arcane
it would be similar to the nightborne to go back to elune out of nowhere
nightborne still worship elune to a degree
yeah but its not something a 99% of the population follow like the ancient night elf empire and our current night elves
I personally don't think they'll give Blood Elf blue eyes, it would dilute the High elves and dilute the blood elve. Blood elves story is moving on (from fel to now light)
I do think the blood elves will still rely on the arcane like the nightborne but not just the arcane like they did before
I think Porter the NPCS will have blue eyes, as its being back in time and all, wouldn't make sense to have fel eyes 😃
@ruby star I have no records of those highelf skins, where are those from?
@stiff vector Someone uses a tool called WDTC or something (some sort of datamining tool or something I guess), I don't have it myself.
Sorry for bothering, but PTR serves still down, right? I still get Fatal Error everytime I put play on Bnet's PTR
Yeah, wait for a new build
So last build was just to get datamined?
