#beta-ptr-spoilers
1 messages · Page 413 of 1
i think you mean His
But Alliance hold Saurfang...
I mean
Horde want to recruit Ashvane
A ViP dude
I think it is just more her knowledge on azerite and KT
I want to see dark ranger nelf models
Damn...
That is going to
Piss Tyrande off
She might probably kill them all
And release their souls
Perhaps
idk, we'll see.
Imagine
We don't know if the raising succeeds, because Tyrande tries to stop it
if they raise Delaryn + Daelin Proudmoore
Wrong proudmoore
You mean Derek Proudmoore
2 many proudmoores
ARMOR MODELS
WARFRONT ARMOR
NEW HORSE MODELS THAT, FOR SOME REASON EVERYONE THINKS IS A RESKIN OF THE WORGEN HORSE EVEN THOUGH WORGEN HORSE IS RESKIN OF NEW MODEL
okay that's enough
what
<@&299347348847329281>
wow, nice
Look up this one please
what
^
?
Has been with that attitude since he started talking here
I...don't see anything worthy of a warn or anything
Same
He is not actually discussing anything, just yelling about bad storytelling and such everytime we discuss. Nothing really bad said
seems like i can't talk without making mak upset
i said the intro sucks
and the war
well then that's your opinion lol
^
I mean, you could phrase it in a way that makes it a discussion instead of a flat right opinion
but 🤷
HE doesn't contribute to the conversation though. Nothing to call a mod about, but he hinders discussions. He just stalls it, most of it not even relevant to the discussion.
I think they are made about him because he's making opinions without even playing BFA
i don't hinder discussions
¯_(ツ)_/¯
I am not really mad at all
you just decide to pay attention to me
I mean, it's for ptr lol
Just explaining why Makore wouldve
i played the intro to bfa, which is on ptr
🤔
that's the only thing i know about and hate since i actually played it
Eh I suppose, what else to expect from.
and i know sylvanas burned the tree because she was afraid the alliance would attack them at some point.
That's not why she burned the tree
why did she do it
She did it purely to spite the elves.
She saw her plan to break them failed
So quick Plan B
oof
i don't feel like that's any better tho
it's their home
She did it because Delaryn told her she can't win this war, she can't break hope etc
also what armor Mak
There is a hell out of difference
So you don't particularly like em?
to this one
I think these armors will fit better with other races than NE
the book said she started the war for the alliance maybe attacking them at some point
They are all nelf themed
that's why she wanted to attack Stormwind
but the game does follow this
Yea but they are weird on NE
Like, the normal version seems to be just that
but rather than attack stormwind
While the
she attacks Teldrassil
I think that's the gladiator one?
🤔
she wanted to catch it
They will fit better with humans
so i was right?
Tier 1 and tier 2
There is a lot of differences
Yes she did this to try and take the alliance out of the fight
There should be a third?
ala Japanese in WW2
They are essentially upgrades of one another
Also
Stromgarde is like that too
Mimi
tier 1, 2, and 3
this is NIGHT ELF ARMOR
it should look good on the night elves
and honestly
it doesn't
It's warfront arrmor
...It feels like something is off
All alliance races will wear that
I just said they will fit better with some races than NE
IT SHOULD LOOK GOOD ON THE RACE IT'S THEMATICALLY DESIGNED AFTER
but it doesn't
I will cry if the Horde warfront looks really good in Undead
The warfront plate currently
I think they always model armors around orcs / humans
looks really good on humans
cuz its made for humans
same with the orc stuff on ya know
orcs
cuz its made for that race.
it's meant to be that races thematics
but here, it doesn't follow that same consistency
Although
but aren't the heritage armors designed specifically for its race?
it's not tier 3
They are Arson, but this is still night elf armor.
oof
this is designed by night elves
Humans suit anything
The leather looks good
on this page?
@hollow dock tbh we havent seen what they look like on females
There is no mythic here tho
Do you all read the links you send me?
It's just
night elf males are neglected
i realize
High level version?
Wowhead is calling it "Plain and "Mythic" styles, in two tints:"
I'm saying the armor probably was designed for females.
clearly that means it's not the highest tier of stuff
?????????????
by calling it mythic and all that
Highest is Mythic+ 
Mythic+30 is the highest, world record
Mythic+ only matters when you're farming item level
facepalms
Wat no, LFR is the highest on raids
ANYWAYS
Right block you go
Comparing it to the warfront arati
I think
Not just that
they better update NE models to fit armors well
I mean
inb4 night elf guards are updated to wear the heritage armor
instead of updating armors to fit NE
I suppose elves are supposed to not wear a lot of thigns because they are fast and all
I mean
I like leather.
that leather set definitely isnt done
Yeah
It should be completely covered
I will give it the benefit of not being finished
it definitely isnt
I hope the head isn't finished, it's horrible
it has like 1 3d piece
and no helmet
its totally inconsistent with the plate and mail sets
obviously not done
Its horrendous
its missing a chest piece
das the leather set
I prefer this recolor :https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/790471.jpg
Eyir says "How DARE you bring a priestess of BWONSAMDI into my halls?!"
And the only magic user with VOl'jin is Talanji
she is what
I hope we could experience scenarios of the other faction, maybe they should add an NPC that let you experience such things
Priestess of Bwonsambi
unt who is ze she?
Who is the she
Eyir says "How DARE you bring a priestess of BWONSAMDI into my halls?!"
And the only magic user with VOl'jin is Talanji
Talanji
Im leaning towards the later
it seems that Voljin is gonna protecc her
so it is really a blood elf
Yes it's a high elf.
yes. des is vris
yes I am me
wat
i am not mad or anything, saying they are bad
Give who a break
...ouch
But I am surprised they have not come acrossed it yet
what happened
I am -NOT- saying that e.e
what'd the blocks say
Well, most of the things aren't datamined yed
So...I would expect stuff to be done in 4 days
You think these quests are in the PTR and available?
Should be
It's annoying yet entertaining to see half of the conversation
Is the ptr working now?
no
Or perhaps
Part of me doesnt want to spoil myself
but another part can't hold the hype
I don't even know if I will end up using a night elf with that Night Warrior attire

We don't even know what that attire is fully
It needs to be more dark
except high elves in some instances
nah
it's reflective of moon
I want to see it with the particles enabled
What if it's an eclipse
that's not how elune works
Don't mention it
Have you done Well of Eternity?
have you seen stars falling down from the sky while a woman shouts out "ELUNE GRANT ME YOUR LIGHT/POWER"
🤔
have you seen moonkins?
When?
YOU SON OF A
A saytr wanted redemption
got it
Ripped out their own heart for Elune's forgiveness
I haven't done Ashenvale as
and Elune forgave them
Alliance
Which is why I am looking to doing a night elf
But idk what class
I couldbe a warrior but I have one horde already
Could be a druid but I am reserving that spot for kul tiran
Then priest it is
¯_(ツ)_/¯
i might make a night warrior nelf later on
Moonkin Druid :point:
those new eyes they can get look cool
disc is op in pvp
disc is great
And shadow?
shadow is meh atm
Idk if i'd do a good job healing
same for holy I think
yr
disc is still heals
cause lfg don't knwo the difference
its not like pvp where it forces you into the spec
but you still might get kicked
they dont bounce tho
Well
male nelfs just have that like adjust their shoulders animation
they used to bounce
the thing they do when they stand up
the idle bounce?
ye
Have you never rolled on your feet?
wat
Where you go to your toes and onto your heels
I do but I don't make it look that noticeable
I've done that. But I think they actually hop up and down
they do. It's the toes without the heels
it's an anxious twitch
like when people who are sitting tap their heel onto the floor.
And the night males seem like
huh, I'll have to watch a nelf do that again
if they needed a shoulder massage
Yeah they do
that has nothing to do with what I just said
take them to the chiropractors in orgrimmar lol
The night elves are a race of warrior elves. constantly in and out of war. living around that much stress will make em develop odd twitches or involuntary body movements
What about humans always sighing
that's just humans always sighing
And dwarves looking around?
or pandas with the constant stomach itch
Again
all twitches
involuntary body movements
out of stress
they are in constant war
how does that not get through to you all
then again I do a lot of those on a daily basis lol
I don't understand why night elves don't have black hairs
Even blood elves got black hairs
Why orcs can't get staches
🐸
Guys
Talanji. Ya voice be a mighty one.
Vol'jin! Is it really you, my old friend?
Baine... ya heart beats strong and true... just like ya fadda. I be glad da demons didn't take ya.
Sylvanas led us to victory in the war against the Legion.
But since then... she has done much to strain the honor that binds the Horde together.
I must know... when the voice spoke to you, bidding you to name her warchief... what spirit was it?
Ah, my young friend. Death be... dark. Me memory... not be what it once was.
Was it Bwonsamdi? Did he crave the death she would bring?
Da memory, it be denied me by da shadows. Shadows... dat... dat be comin' for ya! Watch out!
I remember dyin'. I remember glimpsin' da Other Side.
I was expectin' ta see ol' Bwonsamdi, or Shadra, or Hir'reek... any of da loa.
Dere was a presence. Somethin' movin' in da shadows. Somethin' powerful.
I remember it takin' me somewhere, but da memory of where be hidden from me. Ta keep me from sharin' da truth...
Sometin' not be right dat day. Da demons, deir blades slipped past me guard.
Like dey be doin' now. I cannot hear dem, champion. Da voices of da loa be silent.
I been callin' ta Bwonsamdi for a long time. He not be hearin' me... or he been choosin' not ta answer.
Da truth dat it might not be da loa who wanted Sylvanas to be warchief, but somethin' far more powerful.```
it was the old gods
I fucking called it
No
Vris
I think it was Vol'jin's father
You are hours late
"Baine... ya heart beats strong and true... just like ya fadda"
don't remind me, vol'jin 
It was posted long ago by MMO-C
Ya, we were discussing it
And yeah
mak, are you talking about yourself?
It might be the old gods
Might be?
I mean
they're the only ones able to block out Loa in the shadows
What else that is dark can be
the shadows
coming out
at you
enough to make him call out a warning
that's not the Lich king for sure
It's not the legion
LK Doesnt like her
they're broken
Neither Bwonsambi
But the one whispering to Vol'jin isn't the one who brought him back
There is 2 persons involved
So
Or Eyir
They don't even know
he aint answering
Who was that
Nzoth
yes. Old Gods.
G'huun is dead
But even so
it's still blocking him
Vol'jin isn't saying that they should just
G'huun is no where near as strong as the other ones.
Put her down
"No matter de circumstances, she is leader of de Horde. I will do all I can to ensure dat her rule is a just one."
what we're discussing is what whispered to him
to make her leader
not what he thinks
it's what made him.
Or maybe not, void lords would never want Sylvanas as warchief as they see her as a threat, why would Nzoth whisper to her?
What else could be
Sen'jin
Sen'jin
It is not what?
It would be to cliche though
"Following his death, Sen'jin seems to have taken a place among the loa."
"Following Vol'jin's near death at the hands of Warchief Garrosh Hellscream's assassins, Sen'jin appears before his son and after a brief exchange reminds Bwonsamdi that Vol'jin's clinging to life is one that should be serving Bwonsamdi's purpose"
"Furthermore Sen'jin revealed that his dream for trollkind to once again be led by shadow hunters as they had been in the past and stated his belief that the future of trollkind was in Vol'jin's hands"
Am I the only hyped that we’re getting vanilla race origin stories for their armor sets... can’t wait to see the origin of the curse of flesh with the dwarves...
I wouldn't discuss it further tbh
For now, I gonna keep searchin' for answers. If dere be new enemies gatherin' in da shadows, den I best be huntin' dem... before dey hunt us.
it's literally just their plan to make their next invasion plan easier
Gand we already saw that origin
When?
It was literally "Yogg placed the curse of flesh on the dwarves"
they began to regress
like the Vrykul
Yea but we haven’t experianced it
the dwarves didn't go through the same process, just becoming Frozen
and into the dwarves we know
from Earthen
Same could be said about the belves and the deadscar...
I am excited.to see where this aiding sylvanas to a just rule will go
We hadn't experienced anything else tho gand
WE won't experience it
we just read it
I would like to experience the real sundering
and yes we experienved what made the dead scar
that's very much most of wc3
the continents
Des
According to datamining what?
^^^
is a flashback
The scenario for belfs is the origin of belves. It’s safe to say the story of the dwarves is similar that it’s origin
But
Ah
what
Yup
Which is why it’s marked as ulduar
those are high elves mak
What do we look instead?
Helf=Belf
"Heres what happened in wc3 for the 5000000000000000000000th time"
(memeing)
and no they don't
We see arthas destroy silvermoon
@zealous basalt
Blood Elf Heritage Armor
NEW Stage 1: By Blood Remembered
Shine the lantern and start the memories of the fallen.
NEW Stage 2: Until Our Last Breath
Hold the line against the Scourge
NEW Stage 3: Delaying Death's March
Defeat Seer Drannix
NEW Stage 4: For Anasterian!
Face Arthas.
NEW Stage 5: A Setback
Shine the lantern on Kael'thas' decision.
NEW Stage 6: He Who Walks the Day
Break through to the Sunwell.
NEW Stage 7: A Prince's Decision
Defend the Magisters during their ritual.
So why wouldn’t we see the corruption of the first dwarf?
it's honestly making me hate wc3
I never played wc3 and blizz relizes a lot of their audience hasn’t which is why they’re putting this in game now
They realize non lore junkies need backstory
That’s cool iMm a poor college student
It's not expensive tho
face desk
what are ya'll arguing about this time
what happened in wc3
A game shouldn’t require hours of outside content to explain plot.
This isn't explaining plot
Which is why blizz is doing the origin stories as recaps
Oh my, and he wonders why I argued with him
Is just a callback
it's just rehashing what the game has rehashed for over 14 years now
In which I have to ask
Why not War of the Three Hammers?
Which established Ironforge
and the ironforge dwarves we know of
Why would it be of all dwarves when the player race is just Ironforge Dwarves?
Technically ironforge dwarves are not just bronzebeard since cata
Not true
They have been Bronzebeards
yes true
The heritage armor scenario can be experienced by any race of that faction, not only dwarves / BE
They've been Bronzebeard Dwarves since vanilla. They're still bronzebeard dwarves today.
Pure bread dark irons are dark iron halfbreeds are dwarves red eyes and all
Those are Ironforge boys.
Wait, really Mig?
@grizzled sleet oooh yay that’s a good thing ^3^
Yes
Dark Irons are Dark Irons. Always will. Always have been.
I mean, all clans live in ironforge thus making them ironforge dwarves
you just need to be exalted with Silvermoon / Ironforge
So I don't need to do one class?
No
erm, race*
Yes and half dark irons are technically not pure dark irons you can make them in game right now
Fuck it why do we even need racial barriers then
No
Ah
That's cool then
Because it looks cool
that doesn't make them dark irons
Just exalted with any race with Silvermoon / Ironforge
V.v
Would be the same with the others?
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Yes
So fuck it
Gandem
none of the dwarves are different
You did
I broke das
theyre not different races
The impossible
Someone please help him calm down
and not broke
I'm not broken you twats
but tilted him
Lol
You know how dangerous is that, right?
You haven't seen me yet broken. Trust me.
Do you realize it?
I make a vote to let him vent himself while we do our stuff
Fuck it then. I'm gone.
Take a deep breath, or walk away a bit
You are going to hurt yourself
He can't see this but oh well
Eh has you blocked but still it's appreciated
But that feels good
That means I can max all reps
Well
Either way
They are all account shareable
I don't think what they stated is exactly confirmed is it?
I mean...if what Ion said works like I think
That it is doable on all races
We will just need one character at exalted
He never said that if I recall correctly
@zealous basalt
"Heritage Armor is not just for Allied Races!
First coming for Dwarves and Blood Elves!
No massive questline, if you have a character at max level you can just hop in"
from wowhead
"No massive questline, if you have a character at max level you can just hop in"
Dark iron, Half Dark Iron, Bronzebeard
He said you must have max level of that race and exalted rep
@zealous basalt why are you so toxic
@tulip sun are you sure?
like damn, quit projecting
I am like, pretty positive
For not wanting something to go worse?
"Calm slowly"
"deep breathes"
"You are going to hurt yourself"
I think what happens to Saurfang wont be revealed until Blizzcon.
he's in the Blizzcon poster :
The armor is race exclusive, makes no sense others could do it tbh
And Saurfang's stuff is surely datamined
Or will be
Nothing about him atm
We know he escapes and someone sends assassins
The player aids him
Don't know faction
@grizzled sleet
Source?
@tulip sun it makes sense, as it allows people to nor have to level to 110 just for the tmog oh wait. Uh shit. That's a thing. Welp. Point proven.
I see nothing about Saurfang in both wowhead and MMO-C
That's what I said, that it seems that we were forgetting saurfang stuff
What item??
The tattered cloak
Worn cloak
My bad
It still doesn't reveal anything about how his story evolve
I think they will keep it for Blizzcon
Kinda hard to surprise with datamining tbh
They can't keep datamined away, and we do know how it evolves e.e
He escapes and someone wants him dead
That is a major change if I do say so myzslf
MY RACIALS
I feel very bad for my worgen
but I have to replace her for Kultiran
I just wish they don't update Worgen model just after I rerace
Hmm
humm ye, 50$ for Nzurky won't sell
Overwatch is most likely getting two skins at blizcon, and one is a legendary
Although the legendary isn't exsclusive, just early release.
I wonder if we are going to have a mage tower-esque thing for later
They said that they willdo it agaain
they also said that they plan to add more druids forms later
Mage tower cloaks pleaaaaase
guard armor?
oh god
Can also be the heritage armor but it's not confirmed
I wonder if they got updated finally
GUYS
THEY DID THE THING
what be dis peach?
Hm
The Great Seal, also known as Dazar'alor, is King Rastakhan's palace, capped by the Golden Throne.
this?
outpost upgrade that adds a great seal mission table
so you can send missions from the great seal
Hehe
no need to go to boat
Ah I see now
this ones pretty good too
An item in the Other Items category. Added in World of Warcraft: Battle for Azeroth. Always up to date with the latest patch (8.0.1).
Use: Grants a mission to upgrade Zul'jan Ruins in Nazmir to allow the Loa buff to be applied whenever in the area.
I wonder what are the alliance counterparts?
Because the alliance boat is not that far
are the bfa outposts better than wod?
Well, I always felt dazar alor was a little far from the harbor
Honestly though, that armor looks really pretty
I hope he get an updated model
its possible
but tbh, if he is only in the scenario, its unlikely
waste of resources
just liek varian
peach
Eh about Tyrande
Think she will have an updated normal model
Or it will just change after the scenario?
Guys
think it will change after scenario
Jaina didn't get old models update
and be permanent in all following that
Sira Moonwarden is not titled a Dark Ranger....
same for Tyrande I guess
And sylvanas is now raising night elves
her staff is updated on old models
Now titles*
Hello, don't mind me, just looking around
Aw man
The dark one?
Linky please
Ya
Ah, I think port had the sc
Sira Moonwarden <Dark Warden>
Quick Facts
Classification: Elite
Added in patch 8.1.0.27826
@shell pagoda
O_o
Dark Ranger is hot
she either has a transformation like Tyrande or she is undead
OOF
spellbreaker armor/weapon
That looks so well textured
It is npc armor
They updated guards, now they just need to update Silvermoon 
I can imagine doing that blood elf guard pose at silvermoon with that set
But it may be the heritage armor too, just like Nightborn guards
I think the spellbreaker will end up being Warfront gear
They are going to end up updating all the world
Urgh
Slowly tied to questlines
Oh dear
After all there was the silvermoon warfront leak
That's gonna be long
Sira has a decent chance of dieing
I mean Kham
if Sira is going to appear along Delaryn
In the Tyrande questline
Both ahve decent chances of dying and then have their souls released
I want the mounts to be updated
OWO
but Delaryn is already dead
Now I expect Lynx, Lions, and the others to be updated
Same
Well, she will be double dead
Still
She may be part of the warfront which may explain why she gets an updated model
I still think its either something like Tyrande transformation or being undead
;-;
She suddenly becomes british?
Hah
SAN'LAYN??!
YAAAASSSS
OH FUCK
They died tho
;-;
oof
And the blood princes
It is likely undesth
only 1 blood prince died
Waot so Furbolgs and San'layn then for allied races after 8.1 ends?
and there are still some of them alive
boi
Siri
I'd say just undead
Play Despacito: San'layn eddition
Alliance will attack Voldun in the incursions
They are surely attacking Vulpeeras but what about Sethraks? will they have to choose between horde / alliance ?
I don't undesrtand that part either
why does it seem like alliance is basically furry paradise
the bad snkes
because werewolves are the og furry
Sethrak have a seed to Seperate from vulp already. Vorrik wants forgiveness to the faithless, the vulp want to kill all faithless.
and guess which faction has them
bad snakes are not allied to horde, no reason to attack them during incursions
no i mean, like most of the animal people are alliance
Vulpera are somehow allied to horde
Then it is most likely sethrak will join the alliance
Ummm horde has pig people....
wat
I think you mean cow
Orcs ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Both have the same amoun---oof

🤦
Lmao
someone send this one to remedial training with nathanos
Okay but seriously
Horde: Tauren, Vulpera (Maybe)
Alliance: Worgen, Draenei, Sethrak (Maybe)
Take away N A you get Thanos
You asid furries
Boom
or nathos
Draenei aren't furrt
Anyone find it a bit suspicious that Furbolgs we'rent updated for legion, prepatch, or sofar in the 8.1 ptr?
North America Thanos
so sylvanas was made warchief by some dark power
And Furbolgs arw also bear people
not the loa or lich king
oh and alliance gets furbolgs now too
So that's 2 animals horde, 4 alliance
^
Horde needs gnolls
Furbolgs are savage, I would totally play them
Even the score
i would play them because they ugly af
^ 
It was Helya who whispered to Voljin to make a pact with Sylvanas to start a war with the alliance to burn teldrassil so that Nzoth get out of his prison and raise Helya again
Dead to me
awh, i love you too bb
Lol
No bb
I love you 5 evr
i love you 6 evr
Somebody plan the wedding