#beta-ptr-spoilers

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zealous basalt
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So how would be the mythic race?

heavy cairn
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some of the ones seen with that script must be cut

zealous basalt
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Complete both Horde and Alliance side?

hollow dock
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there is voljin, tyrande, and I think I saw Saurfang storylines out in the next patch

dense plover
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two separate mythic races

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yessir

zealous basalt
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oof

dense plover
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horde mythic race

heavy cairn
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that expains the hall of fame being faction-specific

zealous basalt
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that's going to be op

dense plover
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and alliance

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its going to be glorious

zealous basalt
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Which mean

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Alliance is going to lose

dense plover
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?

frozen dust
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In 8.3 every vanilla zone will be a warfront

zealous basalt
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Because let's be honest, who of the top raiders do stuff with Alliance?

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Limit, Method

dense plover
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uh

zealous basalt
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Both are Horde

hollow dock
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Just the ones that were ya know. being invaded @frozen dust

heavy cairn
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[sax] yea lol and the blood elf and draenei area will still be neglected.
why could they do every zone in cata except those lol

dense plover
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they can just take characters and faction switch tho

zealous basalt
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I don't think they would sacrify one world first for the other

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Oh

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I misread then

dense plover
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i mean, theyll have to do the raid a second time

hollow dock
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Again, we already know why they're beign neglected

frozen dust
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Jesus I'm just trying to make jokes what did I do here

hollow dock
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and personally, if we get more patches like this, I'll be happy with that.

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We're very serious in talking about the new patch Sax

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sorry fi we don't pick up the [lack] of joking dialogue

frozen dust
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Clearly

zealous basalt
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Hype and jokes doesn't come along

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But

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This is a big shut up

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to those idiots in forums

dense plover
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best change "If you've unlocked Champions of Azeroth reputation on one character, it'll unlock on all your characters."

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and "There's a lot of reputation-locked faction transmogs that will be removed."

terse patrol
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I think we may still see the Silvermoon one, because Blizzard is apparently implementing a questline or something for the Horde that catchs them up to speed on the recent history of Quel’thalas, and how Arthas marched up the Dead Scar.

dense plover
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"There's no new reputation you'll need to acquire to get it -- if you're already Exalted with the Proudmoore Admirality or Zandalari Empire, that's all you'll need from a reputation point of view."

hollow dock
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That's not what happened.

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at all Honk

terse patrol
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what was it then

hollow dock
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There's a quest as a blood elf that has you deal with the dread scar to get your heritage armor

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and only as a blood elf

terse patrol
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Well, same diff.

heavy cairn
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that dumb scar is still a thing?

uncut vault
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I hope it actually heals the scar

frozen dust
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What does theirs look like?

uncut vault
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and not just "oh boo theres a scar"

heavy cairn
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yea about time

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heal the scar

hollow dock
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Yes it's a perma scar of the land

heavy cairn
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magic can do it

uncut vault
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I want these race quests to advance their story a bit

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not just recap

heavy cairn
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magic made the scar, magic can undo it

terse patrol
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inb4 they do that so people would see the parallel between Anduin marching on Quel’thalas and Arthas when/if the Silvermoon warfront happens.

hollow dock
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that's what's hinted at Port.

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They won't honk

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that'd be 100% out of character for it

frozen dust
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Exodar's update is just Velen calling everyone home cuz he feels lonely

zealous basalt
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So

frozen dust
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"Look I put a transmog vendor in the attic"

heavy cairn
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exodar doens't need an update

zealous basalt
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Will Azeroth have a scar when she borns?

hollow dock
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probably

dense plover
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oh damn, ptr by the end of the week

zealous basalt
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Oboi

hollow dock
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Hell I wouldn't be surprised if she's void tainted

zealous basalt
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WAT

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WHERE?

heavy cairn
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the wowhead transcription did not say ptr by end of week

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woah

zealous basalt
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Is she going darks?

hollow dock
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Probably not

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butshe'll have void corruption on her

zealous basalt
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darks

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nods

hollow dock
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the old gods have reached her.

zealous basalt
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Also

karmic copper
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t

hollow dock
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Just not hadmuch time to ya know

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corrupt her

zealous basalt
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I wished for too much

terse patrol
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I suspect we’ll see hints towards the next allied races in the PTR.

zealous basalt
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The forums are complaining again

ruby star
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Also strange how no patch number was menointed

zealous basalt
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that we didn't have content

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WATCH IT BEING BASE GAME

hollow dock
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I mean

heavy cairn
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this is big enough to be 8.1

hollow dock
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next patch we get the kul tiran and stuff unlocks

heavy cairn
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honestly 7.3.5 could have been 7.4

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if you ask me

zealous basalt
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This could be 8.0.5

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Whats wrong with mini patches

heavy cairn
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if not for nighthold being included in 7.0, 7.1.5 should have been 7.2 if you ask me

terse patrol
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They dont do 0.5’s

heavy cairn
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they haven't before but why not?

dense plover
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this has to be 8.1

terse patrol
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^

heavy cairn
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^

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I agree, 8.1

terse patrol
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.5’s are raid patches.

dense plover
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^

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and considering they announced a 2 boss raid

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guess whats coming in 8.1.5

zealous basalt
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Sylvanas dying?

hollow dock
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I mean the unlock for the raid happens during a .5

terse patrol
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8.1.5 will almost certainly be the Crucible of Storms patch.

heavy cairn
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9 boss raid will probably be in 8.1.2 (like antorus in 7.3.2)

hollow dock
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Before crucible is a larger raid Honk

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0=

heavy cairn
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8.1.5 yea crucible of storms

frozen dust
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8.1.5: Sylvanas Twirls Her Mustache Some More

terse patrol
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I kno

zealous basalt
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And that raid is zuldazar

hollow dock
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she's always been that way Sax

frozen dust
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Hence

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Hence "some more"

zealous basalt
terse patrol
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I just hope the Siege of Zuldazar feels. . . good for the Alliance. Because I’m worried knowing Jaina is the boss for the Horde side.

zealous basalt
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c wris

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She will just freeze them

hollow dock
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honk they didn't make her lord admiral

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just to kill her

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cmon

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You knowbetter than that

terse patrol
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I know

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But I want a real victory

zealous basalt
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They might

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You know

hollow dock
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You know better than that Honk

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we get in, hamper them a bit

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We get hampered a bit

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playing fields even'd out

zealous basalt
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Remember that Alliance has bombs on the flaghships

terse patrol
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sigh

hollow dock
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that's how this always goes

tropic trail
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As far as I see it the Alliance probably gets to kill Ratakhan

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So Zalanji takes over later

terse patrol
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I dont give a fuk about Rastakhan tbh

zealous basalt
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He is a big target tho

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At least for the Alliance

terse patrol
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not really

ruby star
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Wasn't Azshara meant to be 8.1?

zealous basalt
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Seems like not

hollow dock
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never confirmed

zealous basalt
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watch her being final boss

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after a lot of lead ons

ruby star
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Ah

frozen dust
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I heard rumors about 8.2 but idk

tropic trail
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She has some role in the 2-boss-raid it seems

zealous basalt
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Well

hollow dock
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She's hinted at

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She has no role herself

terse patrol
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I suspect she’ll be 8.2, like I said she’d be months ago

zealous basalt
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She plays a role in the last part of Stormsong

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at least with Lord Stormsong

frozen dust
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Wasn't that what they said last Blizzcon, IIRC?

hollow dock
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Nope.

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They only said

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"The second major raid will see Azshara as a boss much like Ghoulish Daniel was"

zealous basalt
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"Aszgara will be teehre"

frozen dust
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Ahh, that's right, thank you

zealous basalt
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...

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Ei Des

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What if

frozen dust
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Ghoulish Daniel

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God

zealous basalt
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The Jaina fight gets interrupted by Aszhara?

heavy cairn
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so

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my line of thinking:

zealous basalt
heavy cairn
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lol

zealous basalt
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there is your line c:

heavy cairn
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my line of thinking:

  • uldir is not considered major, the first raid usually isn't. note it does NOT have a prerendered cinematic.
  • raid zuldazar is major, obviously.
  • raid stormsong is minor, obviously.
  • therefore, azshara raid still second major raid
zealous basalt
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my line of thinking is

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Horde gonna get bodied this patch

heavy cairn
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at least they are finally paying attention to the story

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sucks that I have no clue about why I go to waycrest manor though

zealous basalt
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because

heavy cairn
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or anything about the alliance war campaign

zealous basalt
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That place is spook

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y

heavy cairn
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idk what the alliance gets for the horde dungeons, but we at least get reasoning for the other dungeons

zealous basalt
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Eh

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For the snek is

frozen dust
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I could buy that

zealous basalt
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Helping sneks

uncut vault
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honestly, coolest change to me is the account wide rep stuff

heavy cairn
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I think freehold has some sort of neutral questline that I didn't do, shrine of the storm we need some relic, tol dagor we need to free some prisoner, and siege of boralus we stealin' azerite

uncut vault
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Ive got like 80 reps on my shaman, but havent played him in like 2 xpacs

zealous basalt
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Yeah

uncut vault
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will totally get 100 with the change

heavy cairn
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ye

zealous basalt
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Say port

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If I max all reps of Alliancein one character

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do you think they will count for heritage armor?

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kden

heavy cairn
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idk

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maybe

uncut vault
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normal race heritage armor is different than the allied race one, so we we dont know

heavy cairn
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hey... with all this account bound rep, what about the weird reps

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like

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honorbound and 7th legion that are """different"""

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would they both count? I guess in the PTR we will see

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no way to know at the time

zealous basalt
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Eh...probably

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But you might still

heavy cairn
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would be hilarious if they make them not both count, yet still force us to grind them on two different characters for both allied races

karmic copper
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gnnnnnnnnnomeregan

zealous basalt
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boi

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Gnomeregan might be that

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"racial scar" of the gnomes

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for their heritage armor

uncut vault
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well according to ion our racial scars are fucking pet battles

zealous basalt
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thonk reaction ther eplls

karmic copper
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i did a good choice by picking a gnome hunter

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right

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?

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yes

zealous basalt
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Lets

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Theory

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How do you think human heritage set will be

karmic copper
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nah i think it will be a buffed guard suit

frozen dust
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That'd be cool

zealous basalt
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Or

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Something like anduin

frozen dust
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I was about to say maybe lion pauldrons or something

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And yeah if nelves get the sentinel armor I'll gladly make a hunter

zealous basalt
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Watch

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Worgen and goblin heritage armor coming with their reskins

frozen dust
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Their heritage armor is the reskin

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You can swap between them at will that way

karmic copper
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what do you mean?

zealous basalt
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Rework*

frozen dust
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Yeah that's what I meant

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I'm legit curious what they'll do for gnomes if they do

zealous basalt
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So you are saying their rework will be linked with heritage

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Something steampunk

frozen dust
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That and trolls are the only race I haven't tried yet

zealous basalt
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For sure

frozen dust
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Oh yeah, no doubt

karmic copper
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gnomes will probaly have alot of mechanical things on them

frozen dust
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But I'd like to see how it looks

karmic copper
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it would be cool if their armor was half robotic and half normal-ish gnome armor

frozen dust
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Yeyeye

karmic copper
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goblins could have that type too

frozen dust
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On the one hand it's cool Mekkatorque has a unique mount but on the other I really want that mecha

karmic copper
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but maybe they would have a full mechanical suit thing

meager warren
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wait, normal races are getting heritage armor too?

zealous basalt
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Yes

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So

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8.2 in blizzcon?

frozen dust
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Hopefully

zealous basalt
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...

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2 patches in halt a year

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Can we start a new meme?

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"2 much content"

meager warren
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Djungle North of Zuldazar
wot

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is it actually called Djungle because if so, that's poor planning

zealous basalt
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What djungle

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What does it mean I mean

hollow dock
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troll accent of

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"The jungle"

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cuz trolls dont say the

zealous basalt
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Ah

frozen dust
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Welcome to Djungle

meager warren
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it should be De Jungle or Da Jungle then

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not Djungle

hollow dock
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sounds the same

zealous basalt
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Ye

meager warren
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it sounds the same but "Djungle" looks like one word

zealous basalt
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BOI

meager warren
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BOI

frozen dust
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Hrmh

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What could they do for troll heritage armor? The Highmountain set strays pretty close to the ToS druid sets so the troll sets might be the same deal, but idk

uncut vault
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I’m more concerned about normal Tauren

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Highmountain basically appropriated their aesthetic

zealous basalt
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Hmn

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The same thing but

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Larger feathers

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So

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Beta cheaters (jk)

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Liked the minor content?

plain vigil
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I'm so excited rn

tropic trail
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Think the concept is the armor set for the warfront?

zealous basalt
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Seems likely

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Or an undead heritage concep

unkempt moss
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best forsaken heritage armor: eradicate them

dense plover
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that is 100% warfront armor

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darkshore warfront is night evles v forsaken

jade basalt
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@tropic trail Yes.

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Funnily enough that Forsaken does not have torn legs/arms and protruding bones.

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It's actually a Chinese Forsaken !

zealous basalt
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Haaa

plain vigil
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@dense plover did I not say more warfront armor 😃

zealous basalt
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...That...Was to be guessed?

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Like they are a new tier so

plain vigil
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No but like racial warfront armor

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And y'all were like "nah"

zealous basalt
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If you didn't notice

plain vigil
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And I was like yeh

zealous basalt
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The current warfront armor looks human-orc

plain vigil
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I siad that months ago 😄

zealous basalt
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Okay

plain vigil
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But peeps in here were saying no

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And I was saying yeh

zealous basalt
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Okay...you got it, we were wrong

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happy?

elder seal
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Probably already said

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But

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"Progress towards the X Number of Exalted reputations achievements will be account wide."

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I can finally reroll whenever

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I hated it that I had to do all reps over and over as completionist

plain vigil
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@zealous basalt yes 😃 ❤️❤️❤️

tulip sun
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@plain vigil :d

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You were right!!

sullen dagger
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hm

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jaina is as a boss in horde mode raid

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i dont like that

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like at all

ruby star
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I have a feeling she won't die, perhaps she'll teleport way or something

hollow dock
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I mean.

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@sullen dagger Shes died twice now. Dont think they made her lord admiral to kill her

tulip sun
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Ya

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She ain't dead

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But kinda cheap to make the Horde not kill their boss and then alliance kills the troll god king e.e

sullen dagger
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still, i dont get why jaina

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it's like the alliance must kill talanji

tulip sun
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Because she is the leader of Jul titans, in charge of their fleet

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How the alliance will get to Zuldazar

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Jaina won't die, don't worry.

sullen dagger
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still, it's very eh

tulip sun
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Is there any actual reason against her being a boss?

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Who would the alliance commander be if not Jaina

tropic trail
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Well, some options, no?

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Like, what was the name of the leader of the 7th legion again?

tulip sun
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Jaina is our final boss because she is in charge of the KulTiran naval force, which is how the attack us possible anyway

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And let's be real, a human warrior as a final raid boss?

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Or rogue, whatever he is

hollow dock
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She's Lord Admiral

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Omake

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cmon

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She's the leader of Kul Tiras. She's the leader of the fleet. Just like Daelin, she'll sail with her fleet to war. @sullen dagger

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Halford Wyrmbane @tropic trail

terse patrol
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All this is is a set up to take out Rastakhan so Zandalar and Kul Tiras will face off as a war of queens.

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Which makes sense in terms of Blizzards current new character policies.

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Put strong females are the forefront.

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At the*

tulip sun
terse patrol
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There’s a reason they keep showing that pic of Sylvanas and Talanji angry-facing each other.

tulip sun
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I am clueless on who the 4 other faction specific bosses will be

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But the loa better be safe

terse patrol
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My guess is, the Alliance want to capture Rastakhan, but something tells me Bwonsambdi fucks that up.

tulip sun
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At the end of the war campaign

terse patrol
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Then he runs to Talanji after and acts like he did what he could to save Rastakhan.

tulip sun
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I believe it is like

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Take him out or something

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I forget

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Maybe it is capture

terse patrol
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Nah. The Alliance knows Talanji would just take power.

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Capturing the king would cripple Zandalar.

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Since there’d be no succession.

tulip sun
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Rasta would rather die I think

terse patrol
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Something happens that results in the Alliance being unable to capture Rastakhan.

tulip sun
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I hoped he would die against old gods, but against alliance would motivate the Horde a bit more

hollow dock
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Like Rastakhan not surrendering

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He doesn't seem to be hte type of troll who'd surrender

terse patrol
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Or perhaps being possessed by Bwonsambdi. 8)

tulip sun
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We probably like....just weaken Jaina somehow. Take some of her power or something.

hollow dock
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that's not how the loa work

terse patrol
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We’ll see. But I think the Alliance is going go fight Bwonsambdi

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Going to*

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Obviously we wont kill him

hollow dock
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We'll see when the raid hits the PTR sometime this week

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

tulip sun
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No they won't, I highly doubt it

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Bwon would be the final boss if any

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Since he empowers Rasta and all

terse patrol
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Blizz hasnt outright said who the final boss is anyways

tulip sun
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They said the alliance raid ends with Rastakham

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Rastakhan*

terse patrol
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So we’ll see tomorrow or friday I reckon

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if they did, ok

hollow dock
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There's what. 3 faction specific and 3 non-specific right? I'd imagine naga stuff happens during the siege and the last few bosses are either old god creations like Cthraxxi or Naga generals/handmaidens

tulip sun
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Jaina, it is a little more unclear. He just said fight 3 alliance commanders on the high seas, including Jaina

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Also

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I know it is a weird thought

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But what if Baine or for instance Oculeth was a raid boss(and incapacitate not kill), since they are in the direct path to Rastakhan

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Especially Baine

sullen dagger
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i guess i'm just upset, since jaina is one of the most reasonable leaderos of the alliance

tulip sun
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Baine is like right beside the elevator to Rasta

terse patrol
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We’ll see I guess.

hollow dock
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Again omake, they won't just kill her

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especially they already did kill her

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twice

tulip sun
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If he isn't, they better say where he is

hollow dock
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and they didn't let her die

tulip sun
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There ac5ually is a lot of horde peeps in Zyldazar in a direct path

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Nathanos, Lasan, Ji, Eitrigg, Garona

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Gallywix

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Unless the ship magically vanishes and yhey don't help defend

terse patrol
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I really doubt lorewise they just sit in the same spot forever

hollow dock
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who does

zealous basalt
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Hmm

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What if she has a fake death

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Also gud morninf

hollow dock
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Jaina wouldn't have to fake her death.

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She either has her ship limping out, like Saurfang did in ICC

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or she wins and the horde is supposed ot lose their fight

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or something interrupts it

zealous basalt
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Hmm

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Oi

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Usher of her third death?

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Like what that old god boi said in Nightmare?

ruby star
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Katherine might sacrifice herself for Jaina

zealous basalt
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Nah

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Perhaps is a safe lose of the h

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Are we forgetting the bombs?

hollow dock
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That's the first part of the raid Mak

zealous basalt
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Oh fuck

ruby star
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We'll come in blow the boats up with the bombs we planted

hollow dock
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and then we strike into the heart of the city

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possibly kill Rastakhan

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fight our way out of the city like the horde was doing

zealous basalt
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And fucking gtfo?

ruby star
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Aye, I dont think Jaina dies tbh

hollow dock
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and flee jsut in time to see Nazjatar rise up and interrupt the fighting (IMO)

ruby star
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I think we'll do quite a bit of damage to Zuldazar

zealous basalt
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Perhaps I dont think they touch jaina 1v1

hollow dock
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It's a sea battle

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Ala ICC gunship battle

zealous basalt
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Seems like it is going to be like that fight in icc

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Ye

hollow dock
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we'll knw more this week

zealous basalt
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And I think the miniraid will be

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Like the thing for Nazjatar

ruby star
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PTR is up by end of week right? Or they are hoping

hollow dock
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Sometime by the end of thsi week the PTR will get its update

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it's already up as is

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always will be up

ruby star
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Interesting, I need to update my PTR ready

zealous basalt
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Too much content

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I havent done Uldir

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Gotta step up mai game

ruby star
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8.1 surprisingly shocked me, didn't expect a lot of that. E.g. Darkshore warfront

zealous basalt
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I didnt expect a 8.1 patch

hollow dock
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I mean. I did

zealous basalt
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I thought in was going to be a 0.5

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But apparently blizzard is merging them

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If they keep up like this with a raid and micro raid with every patch

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I will be happy

ruby star
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Heard rumours people believe we might go to 8.4 this time

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Though of course that might not happen

hollow dock
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rumors that people believe it'll go up to 8.4?

zealous basalt
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Thsts weird

ruby star
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Aye

zealous basalt
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Knowing people I think they mean 8.2

hollow dock
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Why is it rumored that people think

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that's just confusing

zealous basalt
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Imagine they fuck themselves and go up to 8.6

ruby star
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Not a massive remour, just a few people I talked too, however would be interesring but unlikely

zealous basalt
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Witb content every 2 months

hollow dock
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oh the rumor is for 8.4

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not that people are thinking it goes to 8.4

ruby star
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I meant it goes up to 8.4

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8.0,8.1,8.2,8.3,8.4

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Though might be very unlikely

hollow dock
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well they did say the patch cycle wasn't going to mimic Legion

zealous basalt
#

Hmm

hollow dock
#

anyways. I got a baby dragon that can destroy the world to hunt.

zealous basalt
#

How could the appearance of the SoZ raid sets going to be

ruby star
#

Not sure, though when 8.1 goes live on PTR, Stormsong raid bosses should get datamined right?

#

Intrigues me who they'll be

zealous basalt
#

Brother pike

#

The real boss all along

ruby star
#

It will be like Scooby doo xD

#

The boss before they die pulls a mask off and its brother pike

terse patrol
#

I kinda think the Alliance is going to lose to the Horde this expac. idk tho

#

This is supposed to be part 1 of a trilogy of expacs apparently

zealous basalt
#

Well since mop it seems like continuations

hollow dock
#

How is this part 1 @terse patrol

#

MoP was Part 1

#

Like from MoP we've had a continuing storyline

terse patrol
#

They said at Blizzcon that this expac was part 1 in a trilogy of expacs. @hollow dock

zealous basalt
#

2 many trilogies

#

But nah

#

I will tell how the alliance is going to lose

heavy cairn
#

trilogy, hmm

zealous basalt
#

They are going to push the Horde in a state of where they are desperate and almost destroyed

#

Insert important villain

#

Get bodied

#

Make team again

jovial coral
#

Trilogy? Sounds very interesting.

zealous basalt
#

Body the villain

#

And body themselves

terse patrol
#

My guess is, it’s supposed to be the old god trilogy, to finally deal with the old gods for good.

heavy cairn
#
  1. battle for azeroth
  2. return of lich king
  3. [the void]
zealous basalt
#

Ye

#

But after those three what

#

Again to a v h?

heavy cairn
#

that seems to be the cycle lol

#

vanilla was AvH, mop was AvH, bfa AvH

zealous basalt
#

Seems like every 4

hollow dock
#

vanilla really wasn't all that AvH.

zealous basalt
#

Noes

frozen dust
#

Yeah, it seems like vanilla was just both sides kinda hanging out away from each other

zealous basalt
#

Arms...

#

What's the word

#

Armsomething

frozen dust
#

Armistice?

zealous basalt
#

Yds

#

Yes

frozen dust
#

Haw

zealous basalt
#

Loot ideas

#

Instead of looting from bosses

#

We loot the entire city

hollow dock
#

Lul that's retty good

dense plover
#

FYI stormsong raid might not get datamined fully since it isn’t launch content. We might get models and dungeon journal stuff, but it’s likely mechanics will be wrong

#

What will be interesting is the darkshore warfront. I’m hoping it has as much work as arathi

#

And we get to see the zone, not just post cata, but post burning of teldtassil

#

I’m interested in it’s story in general

#

From what I’ve gathered, it’s like - the horde has been occupying this zone since the burning of the tree, so it should be different than what it looked like in the prepatch

#

It’s exciting, and we will probably get to see it in a day or two

#

Probably won’t be done, but still exciting

zealous basalt
#

Lel

#

Someone at my guild discord got notices of the belf heritsge

#

"Oh ye, they are good but slutty"

#

I ask "the fuck u talking bout"

#

"Well, if what is in RPH is correct..."

#

Shesh, some people have a severe lack of brains

terse patrol
#

I got a feeling we might see Forsakenfied Night Elves.

zealous basalt
#

Crispy elves

frozen dust
#

We loot the entire city

Holy shit

#

Just see a phalanx of dark iron waddling out carrying a gold building between them

#

"uh, guys, we're still fighting"

#

"whatever"

zealous basalt
#

"Think we could steal an entire city?"

#

That gnome rogue girl in stormsong

hollow dock
#

Mind you guys

#

We stopped gallywix from plundering the city

#

And didnt so it ourselves

plain vigil
#

Oof

#

Question is, is the Azshara wardront in Azshara, or is it in Naz'jatar and called Azshara as a key word

#

Also, with the Azshara and Darkshore Warfronts, Furbolg recruitment quest for alliance when?!?

hollow dock
#

Gand, there's no confirmation on the Azshara warfront

zealous basalt
#

Why you want furbolgs

hollow dock
#

with the fact that hte next one is in Darkshore, it's becoming safe to say they aren't actually going to happen

plain vigil
#

Because they'd be unique for the alliance and give the alliance another drood ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

#

How do you mean Vris

hollow dock
#

Now Im noticing a pattern: With the warfronts, one side already controls the area.

#

They gave alliance one, they gave horde one

plain vigil
#

Ye

hollow dock
#

so the next one would be an alliance controlled warfront

plain vigil
#

Wait

hollow dock
#

We dont control Azshara, barrens, or any of the "spoiled" ones that were left in the code

plain vigil
#

Then where would it be? Cause the other three leaked are all horde defensivr

hollow dock
#

Again

plain vigil
#

Westfall & Gnolllllls ye?

hollow dock
#

those aren't "leaks" they're just lines of code

plain vigil
#

Yea

hollow dock
#

Of which I would place money on them being just left there as unfinished works.

plain vigil
#

True

hollow dock
#

Now when it comes to unfinished works with blizz, they do one of two things

#

bring it back a year or two later

#

or leave it on the shelf

plain vigil
#

They should be 100% complete with BFA development by the release of 8.2 if we go by the legion calendar estimates

#

This can be seen with the Yeti and Trogg updates that appeared to be out of nowhere until we realized they were part of Kul'Tiras

#

Which begs the question, why the heol we Gnolls not updated

#

Hell*

hollow dock
#

Because clearly they aren't being used

#

Giraffes, Zhevra's, old world cats, etc

#

all have the same issue

#

heck the old world raptors didn't get their HD update

plain vigil
#

Zhevra's were updated

#

Old world cats , striders, and giraffes will mkst likely be updated for the southern barrens Warfront.

#

But it's just the fact that gnolls and Kul'tirans have such a connection that makes it weird that they don't have any gnolls in pirate crews.

strange falcon
#

to give some context into this,gandem is a hardcore "gnoll allied race" fan,just like drorith is for highelves

#

so the fact they didnt get an update

plain vigil
#

Okay

strange falcon
#

is GREATLY IRRITATING

#

to him

plain vigil
#

I'd enjoy them as an allied race and swap factions, but at this point I just want their model updated. ಠ~ಠ

strange falcon
#

but you'll start clamoring for "they got an update,allied race confirmed bois"

#

e.e

zealous basalt
#

Is this an allied race

plain vigil
#

Nah dafire

#

I'm just saying it's odd they weren't updated for bfa with their significance

strange falcon
#

it's because they arent used anywhere

plain vigil
#

But the same could have been said about troggs. So why did troggs get updated first gnolls would have easily fit the story of the horse area, especially with the gnolls being their punching bags. (¬‿¬)

#

Also Gnolls have way more of a lore significance to the Kul'Tirans than the troggs

#

Unless there's a titan facility on Kul'Tiras, troggs also don't make sense in Kul'Tiras.

strange falcon
#

because troggs are in island expeditions

hollow dock
#

Troggs also burrow everywhere

#

they dig into and surface everywhere.

#

If you don't remember

#

Also the Gnolls don't actually bother Kul Tiras?...

#

they do for Stormwind.

plain vigil
#

Gnolls have a pirate presence and a presence in all of eastern kingdoms, especially where Kul'Tiras used to be. The closest Trogg area to where Kul'Tiras Originated is in Dun Morogh. Obviously Kul'Tiras wasn't in that tiny bay, that's been retconned, but it was at least near Gilneas and north of Dun Morogh.

#

Pre cata*

hollow dock
#

And no where does it state this.

plain vigil
#

Cata could have opened a cave with Troggs however.

#

No where does what state what?

hollow dock
#

The gnolls being problematic pirates on their own.

#

Most of the noted gnoll packs are either around the human kingdoms, and dotting along Kalimdor. With one even being in Northrend. But none near Kul Tiras or even Gilneas for that matter

misty blaze
#

so if we encounter jaina in the raid im hoping she will just stall us revealing real truth i just couldnt play no more if they have her killed off

zealous basalt
#

Nah, they wont kill her off, dw

hollow dock
#

kill who off?

zealous basalt
#

Jaina

hollow dock
#

Why do people think they're going to kill her off

misty blaze
#

she is in the raid at the end for the horde side

hollow dock
#

She was killed twice before this. SHe's become lord admiral literally days before all of this happens. Why would they kill her after all the build up?

plain vigil
#

Alteric mountains, Arathi Highlands has multiple packs of Gnolls. Which is around the area where Kul'Tiras was. Originally Kul'Tiras was between dun Morogh and Gilneas but that's not physically possible anymore.

As for pirates, Southsea freebooters(or just Southsea pirates) had Gnolls.

manic horizon
#

If they're going to kill off anyone Alliance side, it'd be Greymane.

hollow dock
#

Having gnolls in them and being a gnoll presence are two separate things

#

As for location, the gnoll tribes in both of those locations are very far from the water

#

also it's not possible anymore due to the cataclysm. When everything got shifted around cuz deathwing threw a fit

plain vigil
#

🤷‍♂️ gnolls are big enough of a problem that They have target dummies, but this kinda got off track, main focus is Furbolgs rn

hollow dock
#

Except that of all the pirate group sin Kul Tiras

#

including the one that's comprised of furries

#

has no gnolls in them

#

reused assets are reused

plain vigil
#

Because the models aren't updated. They won't use vanilla models in new content

#

But i'd prefer to agree to disagree and move on.

hollow dock
#

regardless

#

Furbolgs got updated models.

#

but it wasn't universal

plain vigil
#

In wotlk... They're still low poly and outdated...

strange falcon
hollow dock
#

Now when looking at the Furbolg people, the Blackpaw, over in darkshore, stillc orrupted

#

Still dead

#

Over in Azshara

#

same shit different colored fur

#

So no they won't become a player race

plain vigil
#

@strange falcon WHAT THE FUCK

strange falcon
#

it's a mount,latest wowhead post

hollow dock
plain vigil
#

Lmao I check wowhead daily, just didn't check yet today

strange falcon
#

vris did you just put a hat ON your hat?

#

wow

plain vigil
#

This better be alliance only :3

hollow dock
#

Fire

#

I have

#

5 hats

plain vigil
#

Vris has two hats

hollow dock
#

in this pic

plain vigil
#

Oml

#

That's amazing

hollow dock
#

I keep adding a hat every week or so

#

until people notice

zealous basalt
#

I told him to stop

hollow dock
#

YOU CAN'TTELL ME WHAT TO D

#

MORE HATS

plain vigil
#

Oml this is the best blizzcon mount

#

I'mma have 2 Flying boats now

#

And/or180 days mount

zealous basalt
#

Hey

#

Des

plain vigil
#

Pa

#

Cito

zealous basalt
#

This is the most far thing they will do to give players...personal boats

plain vigil
#

This is the closest thing to personal boats

#

Sad thing is this boat will only make sense with Mages, Rouges, and DK's

zealous basalt
#

why tho, other races can buy stuff

plain vigil
#

Wha

hollow dock
#

You as a hunter can go and buy the boat

#

if you wanted

#

there's nothing stating you can't

plain vigil
#

Oml

#

I just realized

#

This is quite literally

#

A flying dutchman

hollow dock
#

it comes with a parrot pet

plain vigil
#

I'm saying lore wise. You got ghost ship or watery mage ship. And it's a priate ship so Rouges

zealous basalt
#

what stops people lore wise?

plain vigil
#

Ofc i'm gonna ride thus shit on my huntard anyways 😃

#

Just saying it's heavily themed around those three classes

hollow dock
#

How tho. Why can't a hunter be a pirate as well?

#

or shamans, since tide sages.

plain vigil
#

Yea I thin shamans fit to

zealous basalt
#

Why cant a monk be

#

Or a warrior

#

Anything can be a pirate

plain vigil
#

Ofcourse anyone can be anything. Just the mount fits with thise classes more :3

hollow dock
#

We don't see how

#

Which is what we're bringing up since anyone can be a pirate

#

there'snothing making rogues or mages or dks more pirate-like than the other classes.

plain vigil
#

I'm just saying they fit better lore wise, but you're right. Anyone can be a pirate.

hollow dock
#

But you've not really explained how you just say it does. =/

plain vigil
#

I wanna see a dreanai rouge named davey ride in this thing.

hollow dock
#

Draenei* don't have rogues

plain vigil
#

Just because Rouges have the pirate class fantasy, dk's have the spirit realm class fantasy (which is what makes the boat float) and jaina is a mage and she floated the boat is all.

hollow dock
#

DKs dont have anything to do with the spirit realm. Rogues no longer have their pirate class fantasy. That got removed with BFA.

#

Jaina being a mage and floating a ship doesn't make every floating ship a mage thing.

plain vigil
#

Maybe shaman mkreso then mages tbh* Outlaw rouge is still a thing. That class fantasy is still existant.

#

Frost Dk's literally have everything to do with the Shadowlands/spirit realm. They're knights of death.

hollow dock
#

Outlaw rogue exists yes. but Outlaw is no longer themed around pirates. The only thing left untouched is Roll the Bones

#

and no

#

they don't

jade basalt
hollow dock
#

they have to deal with using shadow magic to manipulate frost

#

that'd be pretty cool, Quiet

plain vigil
#

Outlaw still has the pistol shot yea?

hollow dock
#

So are cowboys pirates now?

#

Outlaws aren't jus tpirates, shocking I know

plain vigil
#

Well obviously outlaw can be cowboys, it includes pirates and cowboys, but that doesn't mean the pirate class fantasy doesn't exist. I mean tbh cowboys are just land pirates anyeays.

hollow dock
#

No they aren't lol

#

Cowboys can be outlaws, but most cowboys are also lawmen.

plain vigil
#

Which is why they're outlaw rouges and not cowboy rouges.

zealous basalt
#

dabs

plain vigil
#

Historically very few wild west cowboys and outlaws actually existed.

#

@zealous basalt i love you

hollow dock
#

indeed. However, that still just goes to prove that rogues aren't solely pirates or have the pirate fantasy in their class. Not after they removed a lot of that with the BFA update. Which begs the question of why it fits for them more.

plain vigil
#

Until they add a poncho to the game tho. Rip wowcowboys...

#

This is an argument over semantics des. Do we actually need to argue about this anymore?

hollow dock
#

Did ya get bored all of a sudden? =)

zealous basalt
#

Oh, they removed the prate fantacy?

#

sy*

#

That might be the reason Saber Slash got renamed

hollow dock
#

Yea a lot of the pirate themed abilities got changed to be more "Outlaw" and less "Pirate"

plain vigil
#

Nah we just have a lot of circular arguments that go nowhere. 😂

dense plover
#

Can I just say that pirate ship mount is fucking glorious

#

And I would pay money for it

tulip sun
#

25 is too much for just a mount e.e

zealous basalt
#

NOES

#

ITS PARET

dense plover
#

It’s $25?

strange falcon
#

we dont know

#

like our boy mathias shaw

#

would say

dense plover
#

Ah ok

#

I’d be ok with $25 since it would be mount and pet

#

Assuming it goes to charity

#

I’m not just going to give blizz more money

hollow dock
#

It's stated as an in game mount

#

so it's very possible to be 30

#

or it could be a blizzcon mount.we dont really know

dense plover
#

could still be for charity

tulip sun
#

So soob

#

Soon

#

A few more hours

#

Hm...

#

Still brainstorming commander ideas

jade basalt
zealous basalt
#

how much is dat?

jade basalt
#

About 60€ I believe

zealous basalt
#

Someone in WoWHead

#

"Blizzard? more like EAzzard"

strange falcon
#

isnt it from blizccon ticket?

zealous basalt
#

no

tulip sun
#

Lol, so it's a temporary mount

jade basalt
tulip sun
#

Oh, did I misread?

zealous basalt
#

offers glasses

tulip sun
#

I am wearing mine e.e

zealous basalt
#

...gives new prescription

#

but damnn

#

6month

#

i could get it but

#

im saving for switch games

dense plover
#

what if i buy a year?

#

do i specifically have to buy 6 months?

zealous basalt
#

can u buy a year sub?

dense plover
#

yes

zealous basalt
#

how

dense plover
#

oh

#

im a doof

#

maybe it is 6 months

zealous basalt
#

I should save better and

#

buy subs by 6 monhtz

heavy cairn
#

the mount is not temporary.

#

basically, blizzard gives gifts as promotions all the time

#

promotions are always temporary--and you have a limited time to claim the reward of a promotion.

#

I dunno why they would do it for this sort of thing

#

but an example that would make more sense is something I got in heroes of the storm as a gift once

I forget the name of it but it boosted sort of thing in the game. I had to claim it within a certain time, but it lasted 30 days from the time I claimed it. (rather than lasting until when it said it expired)

zealous basalt
#

O

#

its expensive af in my country

dense plover
#

its expensive everywhere

#

and my sub isnt up until nov, so im not spending 70 bucks

strange falcon
#

METHOD DID IT BTW

frozen dust
#

O shit

zealous basalt
#

yeah

uncut vault
#

Aww, was hoping for an NA first

zealous basalt
#

They were almost there

#

Ah okay

#

Nothing to see here peebs

hollow dock
#

.5% wipe

#

and they had to call it quits

#

they extended their lockout instead of just clearing mythic uldir again

zealous basalt
#

And unlike Method, they gotta workz

strange falcon
#

thinking NA would get world first

#

after all these years that EU has dominated

hollow dock
#

They would have

strange falcon
#

wasnt a good bet

hollow dock
#

mind you

strange falcon
#

but they didnt

hollow dock
#

If limit just sucked it up, cleared Mythic Uldir a second time

#

they'd have won it. Sadly, wasn't the case.

zealous basalt
#

Hope they learn a lesson next time

ruby star
#

Congrats to Method! 😄

uncut vault
#

Description for the mount is interesting, “held aloft by a gift from an unknown kraken-faced god of the deeps.” 🤔

strange falcon
tulip sun
#

How long does the promotion last?

strange falcon
#

idk?

tulip sun
#

I might be buying my sub early

tulip sun
#

I got the dreadwake

#

Woohoo

#

Didn't even have to buy a sub

zealous basalt
#

Don't you have the recurrent 6month sub?

tulip sun
#

Ya, I do.

zealous basalt
#

...den you had a sub

tulip sun
#

I mean I didn't have to buy another

zealous basalt
#

ah

#

ya

#

nerd

steel venture
#

is the dreadwake a two seater?

zealous basalt
#

sadñy

#

no

steel venture
#

LAME.

plain vigil
#

When you already pay by the 7 months so you get the mount automatically 😎

tulip sun
#

Same

terse patrol
#

so

#

Mekkatorque may die at the Siege of Zuldazar.

#

What the fuck man my heart

strange falcon
#

wat

#

they only cited jaina in the qna,so i dont see where you pulled mekkatorque from

terse patrol
#

Apparent leak from China. Unconfirmed ofc

strange falcon
#

china?

#

wt

strange falcon
#

you know china has a totally different version of wow

terse patrol
#

Not THAT different

strange falcon
#

like they cant show meat ,and scholomance looks like a bakery

terse patrol
#

Its a graphic difference

#

The lore is largely the same

strange falcon
#

the mythic argus mount doesnt have the draenei faces

terse patrol
#

So if this is true, (we’ll find out today or tomorrow), then ... Mekkatorque and Rastakhan die, and the Golden Fleet is destroyed completely.

strange falcon
#

then you get sylvanas plot armor mcgee

#

to save the day

#

e-e

#

also,the golden fleet getting destroyed completely is a bit unreasonable

#

considering what we did in the horde war campaign

tulip sun
#

WHAT

#

NO

#

NO

#

I REFUSE TO believe this

terse patrol
#

If it’s true

#

If feels like the Alliance starts winning the war, but we end up losing a lot in the process.

strange falcon
#

i feel like honkerton didnt do the horde warcampaign

#

also "losing a lot" >> just mekkatorque dying

zealous basalt
#

No...

#

Not mekkatorque

tulip sun
#

The Alliance is going to corner the Horde

zealous basalt
#

Please...

tulip sun
#

And they are going to get bit

zealous basalt
#

I give up everything but not him...

terse patrol
#

just mekkatorque

#

@strange falcon ya wanna take that back???

zealous basalt
#

I'm going to cry if we lose him

strange falcon
#

nah dude,you lose 1 leader(after varian),welcome to leader roulette

tulip sun
#

My eyes watered just hearing it xD

#

He can't die

#

He has not done enough

#

He is too innocent

zealous basalt
#

Neither Ysera did

#

But we killed

strange falcon
#

well,ysera was in cata

#

e.e

zealous basalt
#

Please...no Blizzard

#

Dont kill the gnome

terse patrol
#

Who will replace Mekkatorque

tulip sun
#

I mean, this COULD open interesting stories....but.

#

There would have to be a new election

#

and what if they elect like a heavily anti-horde, badass fighter? o.o

zealous basalt
#

sigh

#

A big cost for the victory

#

I'm sad now

terse patrol
#

Kelsey Steelspark will probably be it.

tulip sun
#

Nah

zealous basalt
#

But she hasnt done anything for the gnomes

tulip sun
#

I doubt she'd even take it

zealous basalt
#

It's a vote on who does the most things for them

tulip sun
#

We will find out tomorrow or later today.

terse patrol
#

Kelsey has been in since Cataclysm

zealous basalt
#

And has she done stuff for gnomeregan?

terse patrol
#

Yes

zealous basalt
#

Or just being an IV7 agent?

#

How do we know these are real?

terse patrol
#

She’s part of that whole questline in Tanaris, she was also the rogue trainer in New Tinkertown.

#

We don’t know if its real yet. But we’ll likely find out today or tomorrow.

#

Blizzard usually posts PTR builds on Thursdays

tulip sun
#

THATS TODAY

ruby star
#

I hope Mekka doesn't die 😮

tulip sun
#

WOOHOOOO

#

ME too Drorith

#

Again, it is just a random "lea"

#

leak*

#

Likely fake

zealous basalt
#

Please blizzard

#

Make it clean

ruby star
#

His death wouldn't be that emotional, as he isn't used enough in the stories of expansions

zealous basalt
#

No deaths for alliance

#

Dro

#

That's why it would be emotional

#

With rage inducing

ruby star
#

😭

zealous basalt
#

He was left as a background character being a racial leader

#

He didnt do anything and still would dead

#

That's just pure bullshit on Blizzard's part if they do that

ruby star
#

If Mekka dies we need an international year of mourning

zealous basalt
#

Its Ysera all over again

strange falcon
#

warchief roulette on horde,people die all the time,even rastakhan dies >> alliance : please blizzard,dont kill anyone we cant handle any themes that arent peace and love

#

seriously

tulip sun
#

AS SOON AS THE PTR IS UP

zealous basalt
#

Who cares about Horde

tulip sun
#

Someone hop on and check the raid thing

#

dungeon book

#

Whatever it is

ruby star
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The problem with Mekka dying is he hasn't been developed enough In my opinion to die

terse patrol
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coulda killed malfurion over mekkatorque imo

zealous basalt
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Exactlt

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Yeah

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Its not about leader dying, dafire

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Its about the character

tulip sun
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Again

terse patrol
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This just solidifies gnomes as the joke race almost, unless they really bring gnomes to the forefront from here on.

tulip sun
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It is not confirmed but oh boy

zealous basalt
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If like...malf had died instead

tulip sun
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If Mekk does go

zealous basalt
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That would be differenr

tulip sun
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They could bring a more....proactive leader?

strange falcon
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alliance screaming horde bias for a long time >> "who cares about horde", are you hearing yourself

tulip sun
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anti-horde

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Militant, I don't know

ruby star
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If Mekk goes he needs to go down in style

zealous basalt
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Milhouse Manastorm

tulip sun
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I feel like gnomes would vote someone in office like that after Mekk dies.

terse patrol
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Kelsey Steelspark atm is the only real option.

zealous basalt
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And Yes Dafire, but again is not the leader death

ruby star
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Milhouse manastorm would be pretty cool

zealous basalt
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Its rhe character himseld

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And Milhouse would be a big mess

terse patrol
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Isnt Manastorm insane though

zealous basalt
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Considering he is insane

tulip sun
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He is tame compared to his wife

zealous basalt
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Hah

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But hopefully

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No one is going to die

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Important at least

ruby star
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Guess we'll find out! Soon

zealous basalt
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No horde leaders dead

tulip sun
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I mean

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They don't HAVE to, but if Rasta dies

zealous basalt
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No alliance leaders dead

tulip sun
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It is almost sure that an alliance will, because of stupid equal things.

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Which as a Horde I don't even like, but ya

zealous basalt
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If Rasta does, her daughter will be a oof

dense plover
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Rasta def will

zealous basalt
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I mean I'm willing to exchange

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Malfurion for Mekkatorke

dense plover
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That whole zandalari recruitment cutscene is about him dying and us gaining the favor of the zandalari as talanji takes over

ruby star
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What about the Panda Alliance person?

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Aysa

hollow dock
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Aysa?

zealous basalt
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I dont think she would be there

hollow dock
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They put her in as a token tbh

tulip sun
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Nah

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SHe wouldn't be sieging

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She is in Kul'tiras as a Diplomat

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Now Ji?

ruby star
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Ah that's true

tulip sun
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Ji I could see

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He is at the docvks

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docks

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Where the alliance will start

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Hell, a lot of horde characters are

hollow dock
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I can see Aysa off in the battle.

tulip sun
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Nathanos, Lasan, Ji, Garona, Gallywix, Eitrigg.

zealous basalt
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We dont know how the siege happens

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It will probably start with a big distraction

tulip sun
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I honestly am leaning towards Baine might be a raid boss, but not be killed.

zealous basalt
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So horde moves to the north of the jungle

tulip sun
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He is literally beside the elevator that leads to Rastakhan, I am sure he stays and will try and defend? Perhaps?

ruby star
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Hoping we get a cinematic of Zuldazar fleet burning from Alliance bombs as we sail in

zealous basalt
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Rasta is a safe yes

tulip sun
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Most defiantly.