#beta-ptr-spoilers
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some of the ones seen with that script must be cut
Complete both Horde and Alliance side?
there is voljin, tyrande, and I think I saw Saurfang storylines out in the next patch
oof
horde mythic race
that expains the hall of fame being faction-specific
that's going to be op
?
In 8.3 every vanilla zone will be a warfront
Because let's be honest, who of the top raiders do stuff with Alliance?
Limit, Method
uh
Both are Horde
Just the ones that were ya know. being invaded @frozen dust
[sax] yea lol and the blood elf and draenei area will still be neglected.
why could they do every zone in cata except those lol
they can just take characters and faction switch tho
I don't think they would sacrify one world first for the other
Oh
I misread then
i mean, theyll have to do the raid a second time
Again, we already know why they're beign neglected
Jesus I'm just trying to make jokes what did I do here
and personally, if we get more patches like this, I'll be happy with that.
We're very serious in talking about the new patch Sax
sorry fi we don't pick up the [lack] of joking dialogue
Clearly
Hype and jokes doesn't come along
But
This is a big shut up
to those idiots in forums
best change "If you've unlocked Champions of Azeroth reputation on one character, it'll unlock on all your characters."
and "There's a lot of reputation-locked faction transmogs that will be removed."
I think we may still see the Silvermoon one, because Blizzard is apparently implementing a questline or something for the Horde that catchs them up to speed on the recent history of Quel’thalas, and how Arthas marched up the Dead Scar.
"There's no new reputation you'll need to acquire to get it -- if you're already Exalted with the Proudmoore Admirality or Zandalari Empire, that's all you'll need from a reputation point of view."
what was it then
There's a quest as a blood elf that has you deal with the dread scar to get your heritage armor
and only as a blood elf
Well, same diff.
that dumb scar is still a thing?
I hope it actually heals the scar
What does theirs look like?
and not just "oh boo theres a scar"
Yes it's a perma scar of the land
magic can do it
magic made the scar, magic can undo it
inb4 they do that so people would see the parallel between Anduin marching on Quel’thalas and Arthas when/if the Silvermoon warfront happens.
that's what's hinted at Port.
They won't honk
that'd be 100% out of character for it
Exodar's update is just Velen calling everyone home cuz he feels lonely
So
"Look I put a transmog vendor in the attic"
exodar doens't need an update
Will Azeroth have a scar when she borns?
probably
oh damn, ptr by the end of the week
Oboi
Hell I wouldn't be surprised if she's void tainted
Is she going darks?
the old gods have reached her.
Also
t
I wished for too much
I suspect we’ll see hints towards the next allied races in the PTR.
The forums are complaining again
Also strange how no patch number was menointed
I mean
this is big enough to be 8.1
next patch we get the kul tiran and stuff unlocks
if not for nighthold being included in 7.0, 7.1.5 should have been 7.2 if you ask me
They dont do 0.5’s
they haven't before but why not?
this has to be 8.1
^
.5’s are raid patches.
Sylvanas dying?
I mean the unlock for the raid happens during a .5
8.1.5 will almost certainly be the Crucible of Storms patch.
9 boss raid will probably be in 8.1.2 (like antorus in 7.3.2)
8.1.5 yea crucible of storms
8.1.5: Sylvanas Twirls Her Mustache Some More
I kno
And that raid is zuldazar
she's always been that way Sax
I just hope the Siege of Zuldazar feels. . . good for the Alliance. Because I’m worried knowing Jaina is the boss for the Horde side.
honk they didn't make her lord admiral
just to kill her
cmon
You knowbetter than that
You know better than that Honk
we get in, hamper them a bit
We get hampered a bit
playing fields even'd out
Remember that Alliance has bombs on the flaghships
sigh
that's how this always goes
As far as I see it the Alliance probably gets to kill Ratakhan
So Zalanji takes over later
I dont give a fuk about Rastakhan tbh
not really
Wasn't Azshara meant to be 8.1?
Seems like not
never confirmed
Ah
I heard rumors about 8.2 but idk
She has some role in the 2-boss-raid it seems
Well
I suspect she’ll be 8.2, like I said she’d be months ago
Wasn't that what they said last Blizzcon, IIRC?
Nope.
They only said
"The second major raid will see Azshara as a boss much like Ghoulish Daniel was"
"Aszgara will be teehre"
Ahh, that's right, thank you
The Jaina fight gets interrupted by Aszhara?
lol
there is your line c:
my line of thinking:
- uldir is not considered major, the first raid usually isn't. note it does NOT have a prerendered cinematic.
- raid zuldazar is major, obviously.
- raid stormsong is minor, obviously.
- therefore, azshara raid still second major raid
at least they are finally paying attention to the story
sucks that I have no clue about why I go to waycrest manor though
because
or anything about the alliance war campaign
idk what the alliance gets for the horde dungeons, but we at least get reasoning for the other dungeons
I could buy that
Helping sneks
honestly, coolest change to me is the account wide rep stuff
I think freehold has some sort of neutral questline that I didn't do, shrine of the storm we need some relic, tol dagor we need to free some prisoner, and siege of boralus we stealin' azerite
Ive got like 80 reps on my shaman, but havent played him in like 2 xpacs
Yeah
will totally get 100 with the change
ye
Say port
If I max all reps of Alliancein one character
do you think they will count for heritage armor?
kden
normal race heritage armor is different than the allied race one, so we we dont know
hey... with all this account bound rep, what about the weird reps
like
honorbound and 7th legion that are """different"""
would they both count? I guess in the PTR we will see
no way to know at the time
would be hilarious if they make them not both count, yet still force us to grind them on two different characters for both allied races
gnnnnnnnnnomeregan
boi
Gnomeregan might be that
"racial scar" of the gnomes
for their heritage armor
well according to ion our racial scars are fucking pet battles
thonk reaction ther eplls
Lets
Theory
How do you think human heritage set will be
me thinks something like this in steroids
nah i think it will be a buffed guard suit
That'd be cool
I was about to say maybe lion pauldrons or something
And yeah if nelves get the sentinel armor I'll gladly make a hunter
what do you mean?
Rework*
That and trolls are the only race I haven't tried yet
For sure
Oh yeah, no doubt
gnomes will probaly have alot of mechanical things on them
But I'd like to see how it looks
it would be cool if their armor was half robotic and half normal-ish gnome armor
Yeyeye
goblins could have that type too
On the one hand it's cool Mekkatorque has a unique mount but on the other I really want that mecha
but maybe they would have a full mechanical suit thing
wait, normal races are getting heritage armor too?
Hopefully
Djungle North of Zuldazar
wot
is it actually called Djungle because if so, that's poor planning
Ah
Welcome to Djungle
sounds the same
Ye
it sounds the same but "Djungle" looks like one word
BOI
BOI
Hrmh
What could they do for troll heritage armor? The Highmountain set strays pretty close to the ToS druid sets so the troll sets might be the same deal, but idk
I’m more concerned about normal Tauren
Highmountain basically appropriated their aesthetic
Hmn
The same thing but
Larger feathers
So
Beta cheaters (jk)
Liked the minor content?
Think the concept is the armor set for the warfront?
@tropic trail Yes.
Funnily enough that Forsaken does not have torn legs/arms and protruding bones.
It's actually a Chinese Forsaken !
Haaa
@dense plover did I not say more warfront armor 😃
If you didn't notice
And I was like yeh
The current warfront armor looks human-orc
I siad that months ago 😄
Okay
Probably already said
But
"Progress towards the X Number of Exalted reputations achievements will be account wide."
I can finally reroll whenever
I hated it that I had to do all reps over and over as completionist
@zealous basalt yes 😃 ❤️❤️❤️
I have a feeling she won't die, perhaps she'll teleport way or something
I mean.
@sullen dagger Shes died twice now. Dont think they made her lord admiral to kill her
Ya
She ain't dead
But kinda cheap to make the Horde not kill their boss and then alliance kills the troll god king e.e
Because she is the leader of Jul titans, in charge of their fleet
How the alliance will get to Zuldazar
Jaina won't die, don't worry.
still, it's very eh
Is there any actual reason against her being a boss?
Who would the alliance commander be if not Jaina
Well, some options, no?
Like, what was the name of the leader of the 7th legion again?
Jaina is our final boss because she is in charge of the KulTiran naval force, which is how the attack us possible anyway
And let's be real, a human warrior as a final raid boss?
Or rogue, whatever he is
She's Lord Admiral
Omake
cmon
She's the leader of Kul Tiras. She's the leader of the fleet. Just like Daelin, she'll sail with her fleet to war. @sullen dagger
Halford Wyrmbane @tropic trail
All this is is a set up to take out Rastakhan so Zandalar and Kul Tiras will face off as a war of queens.
Which makes sense in terms of Blizzards current new character policies.
Put strong females are the forefront.
At the*
There’s a reason they keep showing that pic of Sylvanas and Talanji angry-facing each other.
I am clueless on who the 4 other faction specific bosses will be
But the loa better be safe
My guess is, the Alliance want to capture Rastakhan, but something tells me Bwonsambdi fucks that up.
At the end of the war campaign
Then he runs to Talanji after and acts like he did what he could to save Rastakhan.
Nah. The Alliance knows Talanji would just take power.
Capturing the king would cripple Zandalar.
Since there’d be no succession.
Rasta would rather die I think
Something happens that results in the Alliance being unable to capture Rastakhan.
I hoped he would die against old gods, but against alliance would motivate the Horde a bit more
Like Rastakhan not surrendering
He doesn't seem to be hte type of troll who'd surrender
Or perhaps being possessed by Bwonsambdi. 8)
We probably like....just weaken Jaina somehow. Take some of her power or something.
that's not how the loa work
We’ll see. But I think the Alliance is going go fight Bwonsambdi
Going to*
Obviously we wont kill him
No they won't, I highly doubt it
Bwon would be the final boss if any
Since he empowers Rasta and all
Blizz hasnt outright said who the final boss is anyways
There's what. 3 faction specific and 3 non-specific right? I'd imagine naga stuff happens during the siege and the last few bosses are either old god creations like Cthraxxi or Naga generals/handmaidens
Jaina, it is a little more unclear. He just said fight 3 alliance commanders on the high seas, including Jaina
Also
I know it is a weird thought
But what if Baine or for instance Oculeth was a raid boss(and incapacitate not kill), since they are in the direct path to Rastakhan
Especially Baine
i guess i'm just upset, since jaina is one of the most reasonable leaderos of the alliance
Baine is like right beside the elevator to Rasta
We’ll see I guess.
If he isn't, they better say where he is
and they didn't let her die
There ac5ually is a lot of horde peeps in Zyldazar in a direct path
Nathanos, Lasan, Ji, Eitrigg, Garona
Gallywix
Unless the ship magically vanishes and yhey don't help defend
I really doubt lorewise they just sit in the same spot forever
who does
Jaina wouldn't have to fake her death.
She either has her ship limping out, like Saurfang did in ICC
or she wins and the horde is supposed ot lose their fight
or something interrupts it
Hmm
Oi
Usher of her third death?
Like what that old god boi said in Nightmare?
Katherine might sacrifice herself for Jaina
That's the first part of the raid Mak
Oh fuck
We'll come in blow the boats up with the bombs we planted
and then we strike into the heart of the city
possibly kill Rastakhan
fight our way out of the city like the horde was doing
And fucking gtfo?
Aye, I dont think Jaina dies tbh
and flee jsut in time to see Nazjatar rise up and interrupt the fighting (IMO)
I think we'll do quite a bit of damage to Zuldazar
Perhaps I dont think they touch jaina 1v1
we'll knw more this week
PTR is up by end of week right? Or they are hoping
Sometime by the end of thsi week the PTR will get its update
it's already up as is
always will be up
Interesting, I need to update my PTR ready
8.1 surprisingly shocked me, didn't expect a lot of that. E.g. Darkshore warfront
I didnt expect a 8.1 patch
I mean. I did
I thought in was going to be a 0.5
But apparently blizzard is merging them
If they keep up like this with a raid and micro raid with every patch
I will be happy
Heard rumours people believe we might go to 8.4 this time
Though of course that might not happen
rumors that people believe it'll go up to 8.4?
Thsts weird
Aye
Knowing people I think they mean 8.2
Imagine they fuck themselves and go up to 8.6
Not a massive remour, just a few people I talked too, however would be interesring but unlikely
Witb content every 2 months
well they did say the patch cycle wasn't going to mimic Legion
Hmm
anyways. I got a baby dragon that can destroy the world to hunt.
How could the appearance of the SoZ raid sets going to be
Not sure, though when 8.1 goes live on PTR, Stormsong raid bosses should get datamined right?
Intrigues me who they'll be
It will be like Scooby doo xD
The boss before they die pulls a mask off and its brother pike
I kinda think the Alliance is going to lose to the Horde this expac. idk tho
This is supposed to be part 1 of a trilogy of expacs apparently
Well since mop it seems like continuations
How is this part 1 @terse patrol
MoP was Part 1
Like from MoP we've had a continuing storyline
They said at Blizzcon that this expac was part 1 in a trilogy of expacs. @hollow dock
trilogy, hmm
They are going to push the Horde in a state of where they are desperate and almost destroyed
Insert important villain
Get bodied
Make team again
Trilogy? Sounds very interesting.
My guess is, it’s supposed to be the old god trilogy, to finally deal with the old gods for good.
- battle for azeroth
- return of lich king
- [the void]
Seems like every 4
vanilla really wasn't all that AvH.
Noes
Yeah, it seems like vanilla was just both sides kinda hanging out away from each other
Armistice?
Haw
Lul that's retty good
FYI stormsong raid might not get datamined fully since it isn’t launch content. We might get models and dungeon journal stuff, but it’s likely mechanics will be wrong
What will be interesting is the darkshore warfront. I’m hoping it has as much work as arathi
And we get to see the zone, not just post cata, but post burning of teldtassil
I’m interested in it’s story in general
From what I’ve gathered, it’s like - the horde has been occupying this zone since the burning of the tree, so it should be different than what it looked like in the prepatch
It’s exciting, and we will probably get to see it in a day or two
Probably won’t be done, but still exciting
Lel
Someone at my guild discord got notices of the belf heritsge
"Oh ye, they are good but slutty"
I ask "the fuck u talking bout"
"Well, if what is in RPH is correct..."
Shesh, some people have a severe lack of brains
I got a feeling we might see Forsakenfied Night Elves.
Crispy elves
We loot the entire city
Holy shit
Just see a phalanx of dark iron waddling out carrying a gold building between them
"uh, guys, we're still fighting"
"whatever"
Mind you guys
We stopped gallywix from plundering the city
And didnt so it ourselves
Oof
Question is, is the Azshara wardront in Azshara, or is it in Naz'jatar and called Azshara as a key word
Also, with the Azshara and Darkshore Warfronts, Furbolg recruitment quest for alliance when?!?
Gand, there's no confirmation on the Azshara warfront
Why you want furbolgs
with the fact that hte next one is in Darkshore, it's becoming safe to say they aren't actually going to happen
Because they'd be unique for the alliance and give the alliance another drood ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
How do you mean Vris
Now Im noticing a pattern: With the warfronts, one side already controls the area.
They gave alliance one, they gave horde one
Ye
so the next one would be an alliance controlled warfront
Wait
We dont control Azshara, barrens, or any of the "spoiled" ones that were left in the code
Then where would it be? Cause the other three leaked are all horde defensivr
Again
Westfall & Gnolllllls ye?
those aren't "leaks" they're just lines of code
Yea
Of which I would place money on them being just left there as unfinished works.
True
Now when it comes to unfinished works with blizz, they do one of two things
bring it back a year or two later
or leave it on the shelf
They should be 100% complete with BFA development by the release of 8.2 if we go by the legion calendar estimates
This can be seen with the Yeti and Trogg updates that appeared to be out of nowhere until we realized they were part of Kul'Tiras
Which begs the question, why the heol we Gnolls not updated
Hell*
Because clearly they aren't being used
Giraffes, Zhevra's, old world cats, etc
all have the same issue
heck the old world raptors didn't get their HD update
Zhevra's were updated
Old world cats , striders, and giraffes will mkst likely be updated for the southern barrens Warfront.
But it's just the fact that gnolls and Kul'tirans have such a connection that makes it weird that they don't have any gnolls in pirate crews.
to give some context into this,gandem is a hardcore "gnoll allied race" fan,just like drorith is for highelves
so the fact they didnt get an update
Okay
I'd enjoy them as an allied race and swap factions, but at this point I just want their model updated. ಠ~ಠ
but you'll start clamoring for "they got an update,allied race confirmed bois"
e.e
Is this an allied race
Nah dafire
I'm just saying it's odd they weren't updated for bfa with their significance
it's because they arent used anywhere
But the same could have been said about troggs. So why did troggs get updated first gnolls would have easily fit the story of the horse area, especially with the gnolls being their punching bags. (¬‿¬)
Also Gnolls have way more of a lore significance to the Kul'Tirans than the troggs
Unless there's a titan facility on Kul'Tiras, troggs also don't make sense in Kul'Tiras.
Troggs also burrow everywhere
they dig into and surface everywhere.
If you don't remember
Also the Gnolls don't actually bother Kul Tiras?...
they do for Stormwind.
Gnolls have a pirate presence and a presence in all of eastern kingdoms, especially where Kul'Tiras used to be. The closest Trogg area to where Kul'Tiras Originated is in Dun Morogh. Obviously Kul'Tiras wasn't in that tiny bay, that's been retconned, but it was at least near Gilneas and north of Dun Morogh.
Pre cata*
And no where does it state this.
The gnolls being problematic pirates on their own.
Most of the noted gnoll packs are either around the human kingdoms, and dotting along Kalimdor. With one even being in Northrend. But none near Kul Tiras or even Gilneas for that matter
so if we encounter jaina in the raid im hoping she will just stall us revealing real truth i just couldnt play no more if they have her killed off
Nah, they wont kill her off, dw
kill who off?
Jaina
Why do people think they're going to kill her off
she is in the raid at the end for the horde side
She was killed twice before this. SHe's become lord admiral literally days before all of this happens. Why would they kill her after all the build up?
Alteric mountains, Arathi Highlands has multiple packs of Gnolls. Which is around the area where Kul'Tiras was. Originally Kul'Tiras was between dun Morogh and Gilneas but that's not physically possible anymore.
As for pirates, Southsea freebooters(or just Southsea pirates) had Gnolls.
If they're going to kill off anyone Alliance side, it'd be Greymane.
Having gnolls in them and being a gnoll presence are two separate things
As for location, the gnoll tribes in both of those locations are very far from the water
also it's not possible anymore due to the cataclysm. When everything got shifted around cuz deathwing threw a fit
🤷♂️ gnolls are big enough of a problem that They have target dummies, but this kinda got off track, main focus is Furbolgs rn
Except that of all the pirate group sin Kul Tiras
including the one that's comprised of furries
has no gnolls in them
reused assets are reused
Because the models aren't updated. They won't use vanilla models in new content
But i'd prefer to agree to disagree and move on.
In wotlk... They're still low poly and outdated...
this happened btw https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/789014.jpg
Now when looking at the Furbolg people, the Blackpaw, over in darkshore, stillc orrupted
Still dead
Over in Azshara
same shit different colored fur
So no they won't become a player race
@strange falcon WHAT THE FUCK
it's a mount,latest wowhead post
🎵 Someone doesn't look at #latest-news-old 🎵
Lmao I check wowhead daily, just didn't check yet today
This better be alliance only :3
Vris has two hats
in this pic
I told him to stop
Oml this is the best blizzcon mount
I'mma have 2 Flying boats now
And/or180 days mount
This is the closest thing to personal boats
Sad thing is this boat will only make sense with Mages, Rouges, and DK's
why tho, other races can buy stuff
Wha
You as a hunter can go and buy the boat
if you wanted
there's nothing stating you can't
it comes with a parrot pet
I'm saying lore wise. You got ghost ship or watery mage ship. And it's a priate ship so Rouges
what stops people lore wise?
Ofc i'm gonna ride thus shit on my huntard anyways 😃
Just saying it's heavily themed around those three classes
Yea I thin shamans fit to
Ofcourse anyone can be anything. Just the mount fits with thise classes more :3
We don't see how
Which is what we're bringing up since anyone can be a pirate
there'snothing making rogues or mages or dks more pirate-like than the other classes.
I'm just saying they fit better lore wise, but you're right. Anyone can be a pirate.
But you've not really explained how you just say it does. =/
I wanna see a dreanai rouge named davey ride in this thing.
Draenei* don't have rogues
Just because Rouges have the pirate class fantasy, dk's have the spirit realm class fantasy (which is what makes the boat float) and jaina is a mage and she floated the boat is all.
DKs dont have anything to do with the spirit realm. Rogues no longer have their pirate class fantasy. That got removed with BFA.
Jaina being a mage and floating a ship doesn't make every floating ship a mage thing.
Maybe shaman mkreso then mages tbh* Outlaw rouge is still a thing. That class fantasy is still existant.
Frost Dk's literally have everything to do with the Shadowlands/spirit realm. They're knights of death.
Outlaw rogue exists yes. but Outlaw is no longer themed around pirates. The only thing left untouched is Roll the Bones
and no
they don't
I think this guy is going to be a boss. Similar to Krosus, Kologarn, Kromog, etc.
Notice also all the golden coins beneath him, and pouring out of the canal on the right side. The money elemental might be a raid boss rather than a pet battle dungeon boss or whatever.
they have to deal with using shadow magic to manipulate frost
that'd be pretty cool, Quiet
Outlaw still has the pistol shot yea?
Well obviously outlaw can be cowboys, it includes pirates and cowboys, but that doesn't mean the pirate class fantasy doesn't exist. I mean tbh cowboys are just land pirates anyeays.
Which is why they're outlaw rouges and not cowboy rouges.
dabs
Historically very few wild west cowboys and outlaws actually existed.
@zealous basalt i love you
indeed. However, that still just goes to prove that rogues aren't solely pirates or have the pirate fantasy in their class. Not after they removed a lot of that with the BFA update. Which begs the question of why it fits for them more.
Until they add a poncho to the game tho. Rip wowcowboys...
This is an argument over semantics des. Do we actually need to argue about this anymore?
Did ya get bored all of a sudden? =)
Oh, they removed the prate fantacy?
sy*
That might be the reason Saber Slash got renamed
Yea a lot of the pirate themed abilities got changed to be more "Outlaw" and less "Pirate"
Nah we just have a lot of circular arguments that go nowhere. 😂
Can I just say that pirate ship mount is fucking glorious
And I would pay money for it
25 is too much for just a mount e.e
It’s $25?
Ah ok
I’d be ok with $25 since it would be mount and pet
Assuming it goes to charity
I’m not just going to give blizz more money
It's stated as an in game mount
so it's very possible to be 30
or it could be a blizzcon mount.we dont really know
could still be for charity
It's for a 6 months purchase https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/113103747126747136/492026297480904714/wot1.PNG
how much is dat?
About 60€ I believe
isnt it from blizccon ticket?
no
Lol, so it's a temporary mount
Oh, did I misread?
offers glasses
I am wearing mine e.e
...gives new prescription
but damnn
6month
i could get it but
im saving for switch games
can u buy a year sub?
yes
how
the mount is not temporary.
basically, blizzard gives gifts as promotions all the time
promotions are always temporary--and you have a limited time to claim the reward of a promotion.
I dunno why they would do it for this sort of thing
but an example that would make more sense is something I got in heroes of the storm as a gift once
I forget the name of it but it boosted sort of thing in the game. I had to claim it within a certain time, but it lasted 30 days from the time I claimed it. (rather than lasting until when it said it expired)
METHOD DID IT BTW
O shit
yeah
Aww, was hoping for an NA first
.5% wipe
and they had to call it quits
they extended their lockout instead of just clearing mythic uldir again
And unlike Method, they gotta workz
They would have
wasnt a good bet
mind you
but they didnt
If limit just sucked it up, cleared Mythic Uldir a second time
they'd have won it. Sadly, wasn't the case.
Hope they learn a lesson next time
Congrats to Method! 😄
Description for the mount is interesting, “held aloft by a gift from an unknown kraken-faced god of the deeps.” 🤔
Congrats to @Methodgg on an amazing run through Uldir - awesome to watch it all unfold along with the rest of the world. Kudos also to @limitguild for making this the most hotly-contended raid progression race that I can recall in a long, long, time.
How long does the promotion last?
idk?
I might be buying my sub early
Don't you have the recurrent 6month sub?
Ya, I do.
...den you had a sub
I mean I didn't have to buy another
is the dreadwake a two seater?
LAME.
When you already pay by the 7 months so you get the mount automatically 😎
Same
wat
they only cited jaina in the qna,so i dont see where you pulled mekkatorque from
Apparent leak from China. Unconfirmed ofc
you know china has a totally different version of wow
Not THAT different
like they cant show meat ,and scholomance looks like a bakery
the mythic argus mount doesnt have the draenei faces
So if this is true, (we’ll find out today or tomorrow), then ... Mekkatorque and Rastakhan die, and the Golden Fleet is destroyed completely.
then you get sylvanas plot armor mcgee
to save the day
e-e
also,the golden fleet getting destroyed completely is a bit unreasonable
considering what we did in the horde war campaign
If it’s true
If feels like the Alliance starts winning the war, but we end up losing a lot in the process.
i feel like honkerton didnt do the horde warcampaign
also "losing a lot" >> just mekkatorque dying
The Alliance is going to corner the Horde
Please...
And they are going to get bit
I give up everything but not him...
I'm going to cry if we lose him
nah dude,you lose 1 leader(after varian),welcome to leader roulette
My eyes watered just hearing it xD
He can't die
He has not done enough
He is too innocent
Who will replace Mekkatorque
I mean, this COULD open interesting stories....but.
There would have to be a new election
and what if they elect like a heavily anti-horde, badass fighter? o.o
Kelsey Steelspark will probably be it.
Nah
But she hasnt done anything for the gnomes
I doubt she'd even take it
It's a vote on who does the most things for them
We will find out tomorrow or later today.
Kelsey has been in since Cataclysm
And has she done stuff for gnomeregan?
Yes
She’s part of that whole questline in Tanaris, she was also the rogue trainer in New Tinkertown.
We don’t know if its real yet. But we’ll likely find out today or tomorrow.
Blizzard usually posts PTR builds on Thursdays
THATS TODAY
I hope Mekka doesn't die 😮
His death wouldn't be that emotional, as he isn't used enough in the stories of expansions
No deaths for alliance
Dro
That's why it would be emotional
With rage inducing
😭
He was left as a background character being a racial leader
He didnt do anything and still would dead
That's just pure bullshit on Blizzard's part if they do that
If Mekka dies we need an international year of mourning
Its Ysera all over again
warchief roulette on horde,people die all the time,even rastakhan dies >> alliance : please blizzard,dont kill anyone we cant handle any themes that arent peace and love
seriously
AS SOON AS THE PTR IS UP
Who cares about Horde
The problem with Mekka dying is he hasn't been developed enough In my opinion to die
coulda killed malfurion over mekkatorque imo
Again
This just solidifies gnomes as the joke race almost, unless they really bring gnomes to the forefront from here on.
It is not confirmed but oh boy
If like...malf had died instead
If Mekk does go
That would be differenr
They could bring a more....proactive leader?
alliance screaming horde bias for a long time >> "who cares about horde", are you hearing yourself
If Mekk goes he needs to go down in style
Milhouse Manastorm
I feel like gnomes would vote someone in office like that after Mekk dies.
Kelsey Steelspark atm is the only real option.
And Yes Dafire, but again is not the leader death
Milhouse manastorm would be pretty cool
Isnt Manastorm insane though
Considering he is insane
He is tame compared to his wife
Guess we'll find out! Soon
No horde leaders dead
No alliance leaders dead
It is almost sure that an alliance will, because of stupid equal things.
Which as a Horde I don't even like, but ya
If Rasta does, her daughter will be a oof
Rasta def will
That whole zandalari recruitment cutscene is about him dying and us gaining the favor of the zandalari as talanji takes over
Aysa?
I dont think she would be there
They put her in as a token tbh
Ah that's true
Ji I could see
He is at the docvks
docks
Where the alliance will start
Hell, a lot of horde characters are
I can see Aysa off in the battle.
Nathanos, Lasan, Ji, Garona, Gallywix, Eitrigg.
I honestly am leaning towards Baine might be a raid boss, but not be killed.
So horde moves to the north of the jungle
He is literally beside the elevator that leads to Rastakhan, I am sure he stays and will try and defend? Perhaps?
Hoping we get a cinematic of Zuldazar fleet burning from Alliance bombs as we sail in
Rasta is a safe yes
Most defiantly.

