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onyx mason Aug 9, 2018, 9:30 PM

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im getting tired of switching warcheifs

forest tartan Aug 9, 2018, 9:31 PM

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well if the loa of death is keeping voljins soul in a jar somplace maybe we can find him a new body

tropic trail Aug 9, 2018, 9:31 PM

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I mean, Alliance has only had 2 kings which have switched like 3 different times

onyx mason Aug 9, 2018, 9:32 PM

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are you just counting the mmo Kings or all of them

tropic trail Aug 9, 2018, 9:32 PM

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The ones you've seen from 2004-2018

onyx mason Aug 9, 2018, 9:32 PM

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ok

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now I hope the Loa spirits that told Voljin to pik Syl and not void

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Vol was weakened severally and well I'm it would of been hard to tell an actual Loa spirit from a fake one

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I'm sure*

grizzled sleet Aug 9, 2018, 11:10 PM

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Why are people afraid to see Salyvans Wendruiner dying?

uncut vault Aug 9, 2018, 11:11 PM

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because why would they kill one of the most well known characters, and the warchief again, for the sake of repeating the exact same story as MoP

zealous basalt Aug 9, 2018, 11:12 PM

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For the sake of a crying community tbh

terse patrol Aug 9, 2018, 11:12 PM

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She'll step down, or be forced from the position.

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I suspect she'll disappear and her Forsaken will be tossed into disarray.

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Then Calia steps in.

hollow dock Aug 9, 2018, 11:12 PM

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Why would Calia go horde tho

terse patrol Aug 9, 2018, 11:13 PM

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Not saying she'd go Horde.

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I think Nathanos will stay Horde.

hollow dock Aug 9, 2018, 11:13 PM

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You're saying she'll step in for Sylvanas

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current leader of the horde

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🤔

terse patrol Aug 9, 2018, 11:13 PM

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But half of the Forsaken will go with the Alliance.

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Or go neutral

uncut vault Aug 9, 2018, 11:13 PM

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tfw people unironically think theyre gonna do the exact same story as MoP 😂

terse patrol Aug 9, 2018, 11:13 PM

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^

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@hollow dock I'm saying the Forsaken will split between Calia and Nathanos.

uncut vault Aug 9, 2018, 11:14 PM

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only chance she's not warchief by the end of the xpac is willingly stepping down or forming a council and ending the position

terse patrol Aug 9, 2018, 11:14 PM

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@uncut vault Or being forced out.

uncut vault Aug 9, 2018, 11:14 PM

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so, MoP

zealous basalt Aug 9, 2018, 11:14 PM

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If Horde really wants to quit her

terse patrol Aug 9, 2018, 11:14 PM

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Nah, because she won't be captured.

zealous basalt Aug 9, 2018, 11:14 PM

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Because so far no one really doubts about her commands

terse patrol Aug 9, 2018, 11:14 PM

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She'll go do something else.

hollow dock Aug 9, 2018, 11:16 PM

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The thing is Port

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Garrosh wasn't forced out

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he outright left

terse patrol Aug 9, 2018, 11:18 PM

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^

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He told everyone else he was the true Horde.

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All non-Orcs gtfo

ruby star Aug 9, 2018, 11:18 PM

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Slyvanans won't die

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But she won't stay warchief

terse patrol Aug 9, 2018, 11:19 PM

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^

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She won't stay Horde either, though. She can't stay in the Horde and at the same time there be peace.

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The Alliance won't stop until they have her head.

ruby star Aug 9, 2018, 11:20 PM

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Exactly

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She'll play an evil part in wrath 2.0

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Perhaps Bolvar vs Slyvanas

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I'd support Bolvar tbh

terse patrol Aug 9, 2018, 11:21 PM

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I suspect she's going to be Illidan 2.0 sadly.

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"haha we actually need her"

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Except Illidan never actively did any of the evil shit in Burning Crusade. It was all the Burning Legion/Kael'thas.

ruby star Aug 9, 2018, 11:22 PM

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Though she can't exactly be redeemned

terse patrol Aug 9, 2018, 11:22 PM

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The difference would be

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She actually did the evil shit.

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And we'll be expected to forgive her.

ruby star Aug 9, 2018, 11:22 PM

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Ye

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You know how Anduin was parrel woth arthas in the cinematic?

terse patrol Aug 9, 2018, 11:23 PM

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inb4 she saw a vision and did all this to stop the Old Gods kek

ruby star Aug 9, 2018, 11:23 PM

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Whoops twice

terse patrol Aug 9, 2018, 11:23 PM

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yes, everyone noticed that I think

ruby star Aug 9, 2018, 11:23 PM

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What if

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Anduin marches on quel'thtlas through greenwood pass lilr Arthas

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Instead of march of rhe damned its march of the just

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Or something

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And shows the parrel

terse patrol Aug 9, 2018, 11:24 PM

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I want to see a major Alliance victory that isnt just Sylvanas blowing something up and one upping us.

ruby star Aug 9, 2018, 11:24 PM

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Same here

terse patrol Aug 9, 2018, 11:25 PM

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I want something that actually pisses her off.

ruby star Aug 9, 2018, 11:25 PM

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Perhaps Silvermoon will be our victory

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As its been teased

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They don't have to bring silvermoon out of outlans

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Just make a hd updated one phased in outland

jovial coral Aug 9, 2018, 11:26 PM

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Should be easy enough for void elves to get to

ruby star Aug 9, 2018, 11:28 PM

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Yeah siege of silvermoon/quel'thtalas could be quite fun, void elves are our elite crack squad so we send them behind enemy lines

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We could even use the silvermoon study peoplr in the void elf hub to sneak in if need be

tropic trail Aug 9, 2018, 11:29 PM

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I'm sure people will notice THEIR PURPLE SKIN

ruby star Aug 9, 2018, 11:29 PM

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No

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The silvermoon study people are not purple

tropic trail Aug 9, 2018, 11:29 PM

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"void elves are our elite crack squad so we send them behind enemy lines"

ruby star Aug 9, 2018, 11:30 PM

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Yeah we could send them too

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They probbaly can stealth

zealous basalt Aug 9, 2018, 11:30 PM

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...Dudes

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How people would enrage

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if in that moment the void elves would mimic their blood elven appearance

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npcs only tho

ruby star Aug 9, 2018, 11:31 PM

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Blood elf toy lmao

jovial coral Aug 9, 2018, 11:31 PM

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Sneak in at the dead of night

ruby star Aug 9, 2018, 11:32 PM

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I feel like Anduin would march on Silvermoon, do speech and offer the blood elves a chance to rejoin alliance, lor'themar will then insult us, we then start ot siege

uncut vault Aug 9, 2018, 11:33 PM

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I mean, more than void elves need some more customization options, patch with Quelthalas content would be a good time to fix some of the nightborne options alongside void elves

zealous basalt Aug 9, 2018, 11:33 PM

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cringes to nightborne

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they look so ugly

ruby star Aug 9, 2018, 11:38 PM

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Quel'thalas patch is also perfect time to add the high elves allied race

jovial coral Aug 9, 2018, 11:38 PM

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Perfect time to kill them off more likely

ruby star Aug 9, 2018, 11:38 PM

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Nah

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Unlikely

jovial coral Aug 9, 2018, 11:47 PM

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Maybe so but I don't think they'll be an Allied race blizzard seems very much against that

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If their numbers are soon to be reduced that would make sense.

hollow dock Aug 9, 2018, 11:53 PM

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Brown

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Void elves

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Also, Blizz isn't super against it. They've just found no ways that they can currently distinctly show the two being different.

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Of which if they'd just take a look at the fan suggestions, they can easily pick something out.

jovial coral Aug 10, 2018, 12:03 AM

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So high elves for alliance? What does horde get as an equivalent?

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 12:04 AM

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Forest trolls

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give em the Forest Trolls they've wanted for so long

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the bulky hunchbacks

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Revantusk is still a horde tribe. And they are a tribe of Forest Trolls akin to the Amani.

jovial coral Aug 10, 2018, 12:08 AM

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I see what you are saying that High Elves is something Alliance wants and Forest trolls is something that the Horde wants but I do not think that is even at all.

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 12:09 AM

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Two races that both sides have wanted

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since vanilla

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isn't equal

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lulk

plain vigil Aug 10, 2018, 12:09 AM

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📎 image.png

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I know some of you don't think we'll get racial armor for each pvp season.... But if we get this mail armor, warfront or not... It's gonma be finna woke.

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 12:10 AM

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We'll never get racial PVP armor

plain vigil Aug 10, 2018, 12:10 AM

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Warfront season one is orc vs human themed.

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 12:10 AM

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Horde vs Alliance

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Horde is always mainly orc. Alliance is always mainly Human

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it was like that in the first set of pVP gear given

plain vigil Aug 10, 2018, 12:11 AM

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There's a chance

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Especially with the loss of class tier

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 12:11 AM

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the same chance that blizz decides to place some logical thinking into their story

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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We already were told what was replacing class tier tho

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which is raid themed blanket for each armor type

plain vigil Aug 10, 2018, 12:13 AM

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We can have different opinions 😄

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 12:13 AM

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Mines not an opinion

plain vigil Aug 10, 2018, 12:14 AM

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You're using conjecture based on your opinion of wow's story development to make a point.

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An argumentative poi t

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Something I tried preventing with my statement above.

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I'm going to leave now

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 12:15 AM

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Why didn't Jaina teleport away in the Broken Shore, why didn't Jaina freeze all of the blight, why didn't anduin and the other light users simply use their abilities to blast the blight away,

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etc

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etc

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etc

plain vigil Aug 10, 2018, 12:15 AM

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Have a good one.

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 12:15 AM

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There's a lot of logic that's lacking within blizzards story

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which is all to just push plot

strange falcon Aug 10, 2018, 12:15 AM

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vris the argument breaker

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strikes again

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 12:16 AM

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Dw Horde and Alliance might get dragons soon as allied races

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 12:16 AM

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there's no reason for that to happen

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please don't spread that

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 12:17 AM

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Supposedly stella appeared in horde embassy and wrathion alliance and both were disabled, dragon isle teased, wrathions story seems it might get bigger. 🤔

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I mean theres reasons

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 12:18 AM

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Do they appear there now?

strange falcon Aug 10, 2018, 12:18 AM

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i never heard of stella appearing

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 12:18 AM

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Are they actually there now?

strange falcon Aug 10, 2018, 12:18 AM

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and wrathion appeared only at blizzcon

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 12:18 AM

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if they are not

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why assume

strange falcon Aug 10, 2018, 12:18 AM

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which was early alpha

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 12:18 AM

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Nit they were disabled /hidden

chrome compass Aug 10, 2018, 12:18 AM

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As much as I would love dragon allied race... Both would most likely be black dragons.

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If they happen at all.

strange falcon Aug 10, 2018, 12:18 AM

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drorith,it's better not to spread outrageous rumors

chrome compass Aug 10, 2018, 12:18 AM

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Which is a very big if.

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 12:18 AM

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Stellagosa's people are on the brink of extinction, in what mind would she toss them into a war.

strange falcon Aug 10, 2018, 12:18 AM

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like highelves being an allied race

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e.e

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I DID IT AGAIN

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 12:19 AM

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Why would

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A dragon ally with the horde

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 12:19 AM

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Oh yeah I forgot any Allied race ideas get picked apart on WoW forums or discords lmao

chrome compass Aug 10, 2018, 12:19 AM

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Ebonhorn.

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 12:19 AM

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Yes

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if you present an idea

chrome compass Aug 10, 2018, 12:19 AM

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Is on Horde side.

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 12:19 AM

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be prepared to defnd

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said

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idea

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that's the point of a public forum

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 12:19 AM

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Even if they got abused in the past

chrome compass Aug 10, 2018, 12:19 AM

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Both sides have a black dragon basically. Since Wrathion is very pro alliance.

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 12:20 AM

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Ebonhorn is on the hordes side by association and loyalty to the Highmountain

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 12:20 AM

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This thread could defend is possibly https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20767646785#1

Black Dragon MEGATHREAD - World of Warcraft Forums

Hello and welcome to the black dragon allied race megathread. This may seem completely out of nowhere for a lot of you so I am going to enlighten you on recent events of wrathion and black dragons as a race. Wrathion has been busy since we last majorily acted with him in pand...

chrome compass Aug 10, 2018, 12:20 AM

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popcorncat

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 12:20 AM

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not because he's a horde lover

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if anything

strange falcon Aug 10, 2018, 12:20 AM

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also why THE F*CK would stellagosa be the emissary

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it's pretty clear it would be ebonhorn in that case

chrome compass Aug 10, 2018, 12:20 AM

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Still allied to the horde by technicality.

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 12:20 AM

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he'd be REALLY against joining the horde

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if he heard

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what the horde did to his people

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first

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 12:20 AM

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@strange falcon no idea that was what I was told

strange falcon Aug 10, 2018, 12:20 AM

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thats why you do your own research kids

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 12:20 AM

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Dror if you were told that WoW was ending tomorrow would you just spread that?

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 12:20 AM

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Seriously

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Dragons on horde side

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Is just a big no

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 12:21 AM

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@hollow dock no, thats a different scenario

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 12:21 AM

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its a rumor

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 12:21 AM

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Unless they want to make them evil and have Twilight dragons

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 12:21 AM

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You spread em like wildfire

strange falcon Aug 10, 2018, 12:21 AM

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it's like the rumor of alliance allying with alexstrasza and horde with bolvar

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e.e

chrome compass Aug 10, 2018, 12:21 AM

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Lich King 2, Icey boogaloo.

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 12:21 AM

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Alliance would ally with Bolvar IMO

chrome compass Aug 10, 2018, 12:22 AM

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Please look forward to it.

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 12:22 AM

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Against Slyvanans

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 12:22 AM

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Both would

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Tbh

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 12:22 AM

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Mutually benefits them both

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 12:22 AM

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You can't defend em, when we rip em apart, you just deflect it off.

chrome compass Aug 10, 2018, 12:22 AM

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Bolvar would honestly just kill everyone.

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tohru_shrug

grizzled sleet Aug 10, 2018, 12:23 AM

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Sylvanas will become Lich Queen because she can't be corrupted by the helm

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 12:23 AM

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I dont really think horde deserves dragons tbh

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 12:23 AM

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Bolvar would most likely find Slynavas a threat , especially the way she is going

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 12:23 AM

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why?

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She doesn't have a helm of domination

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 12:23 AM

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Bolvar want all the undead in his control

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 12:23 AM

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or an order of deathknights under her control

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 12:23 AM

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But she has the whip of domination

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Gigity gigity

chrome compass Aug 10, 2018, 12:23 AM

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Technically. Bolvar could just take over her.

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 12:23 AM

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Sylvanas is a raiding party to Bolvar's grand holy roman empire

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 12:24 AM

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Bolvar needs to help us then

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 12:24 AM

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why?

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He has the entire scourge and the ebon blade

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at his beck and call

chrome compass Aug 10, 2018, 12:24 AM

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Bolvar won't help anyone. It's not in his interests.

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 12:24 AM

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Exactly Vris

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 12:24 AM

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Why would he help us?

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He has no reason to

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 12:24 AM

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He could deal with Slyvanans like Vermin

chrome compass Aug 10, 2018, 12:24 AM

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Technically. The Ebon Blade doesn't answer to the Lich King all the time.

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 12:24 AM

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If he lets Sylvanas kill us

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that's even better for him

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and yes N'n.

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They do

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Frost Artifact. Go find the shards of Arthas.

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 12:25 AM

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Didn't you do the

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 12:25 AM

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I thought Bolvar learnt to control the helm sort of

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 12:25 AM

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DK campaign?

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It's literally

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Doing LK's stuff

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 12:25 AM

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Don't play DK

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 12:25 AM

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Play DK.

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Join the scourge

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we have cookies

strange falcon Aug 10, 2018, 12:25 AM

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"get me a new frost drake whatever" "sure dude"

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 12:25 AM

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@hollow dock don't tempt me haha

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 12:26 AM

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    Memory of Arthas whispers: The numberless shades forsaken by time.
    Memory of Arthas whispers: The dead outnumber the living, and always will.``` 

Shard of Arthas from Azuna.

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    Memory of Arthas whispers: Yet you do as He commands.
    Memory of Arthas whispers: You exist by His whim alone.
    Memory of Arthas whispers: You imagine yourself to be free, but you will always be His instrument...```
Highmountain.

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    Memory of Arthas whispers: Even the mighty are rendered nameless by time.
    Memory of Arthas whispers: Every king must kneel before death.```
Stormhiem

chrome compass Aug 10, 2018, 12:27 AM

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I don't think the Ebon Blade would go back to servitiude with the Lich King just because it's not Arthas anymore. Also, he does say he doesn't have command of Acherus during the mount questline.

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That's the player.

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 12:27 AM

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They are

chrome compass Aug 10, 2018, 12:27 AM

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Not the Ebon blade as a whole.

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 12:27 AM

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    Memory of Arthas whispers: Rage against the Nightmare. Struggle as you will.
    Memory of Arthas whispers: The infinite darkness is patient. We will all be claimed in the end.```

Val'sharah

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 12:27 AM

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At his service tho

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 12:27 AM

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this is not just hte player

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The deathknights are still bound to the Helm of Domination

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They were raised with the Helm

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not just Arthas

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Sylvanas and her forsaken broke free because they weren't risen by the Lich king

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 12:28 AM

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they are bound to the helm

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 12:28 AM

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just an angsty deathknight who killed his dad

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 12:28 AM

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And was really pissed

strange falcon Aug 10, 2018, 12:28 AM

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someone photoshop sylvanas sitting on the lordaeron throne with the helm of domination

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 12:28 AM

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Because she was a nuisance

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Like

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In the whole dk campaign

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you used to be chill

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but this hoe comes and breaks ur stuff

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 12:29 AM

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Again, take note of what he tells us in Highmountain.

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He doesn't speak of himself

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he speaks of 1 being

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The Lich King.

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Not Arthas

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Not Ner'zhul

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Not Bolvar

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The Lich King.

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 12:29 AM

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And can't we obliterate the scourge entirely?

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 12:29 AM

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There's to many.

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 12:29 AM

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Like to stop nedding a lk?

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needing*

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 12:29 AM

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You'd be culling them for years.

chrome compass Aug 10, 2018, 12:30 AM

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I know the DK campaign is following his orders. Then why exactly would he then say during the mount questline, that he would seize control of Acherus is you died(again) I mean sure he could be bluffing. But I doubt Blizzard have the story telling capacity to pull off bluffs anymore.

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 12:30 AM

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Like Arthas said, the moment the Lich King called, a simple gesture got the Ebon Blade serving the Lich King once more.

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 12:31 AM

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And for what reason even

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Like

jade basalt Aug 10, 2018, 12:31 AM

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To be fair he promised you sweet lootz. I mean, 'artifacts'.

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 12:31 AM

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this is true Quiet

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but tbf

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like

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real talk

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 12:31 AM

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I don't see LK helping the rest of the world after we complete their quests

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 12:31 AM

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I was willing to join the scourge at ICC

plain vigil Aug 10, 2018, 12:31 AM

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Would like to point out that for the first time in wow history, the dragon isles is a confirmed lore location. However, at this moment before a future patch, dragon isles is just as notable as tel'abim. Does it mean we'll go there some day? Possibility. Does it mean we will for sure this expansion or a later? No, but it's possible.

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@ruby star

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 12:31 AM

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It's possible.

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100% it's possible

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it's also possible we got to Tel'abim

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 12:32 AM

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We need more isles

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Uncover Azeroth map at 100%

plain vigil Aug 10, 2018, 12:32 AM

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Honestly Tel'abim is long overdue

dull latch Aug 10, 2018, 12:32 AM

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Sentient bananas yes!

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 12:32 AM

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Dragon Isle is slightly more possible than Tel'abim

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it really isn't. It's just an island of bananas

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Why is there so much interest in it?

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 12:32 AM

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Because

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Bananas Vris

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Everyone love bananas

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 12:33 AM

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people spread fake rumors?

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yea I get that

jade basalt Aug 10, 2018, 12:33 AM

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There was an interview with Ion, where when asked about the Chromie scenario (which takes place 'in the future', where you're level 112), said that dragons would indeed be relevant in BFA. At some point. To some extent. May have referred to the dragons on island expeditions.. or to the Dragon Isles.

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 12:33 AM

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Imagine horde and

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alliance

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fighting for banana island

dull latch Aug 10, 2018, 12:34 AM

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Omg yes. casualsBan

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 12:35 AM

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embrace the bananas vris

plain vigil Aug 10, 2018, 12:35 AM

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#blizzbananasplz

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 12:36 AM

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World of Sea of Thuieves

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 12:36 AM

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World of Guns of Icarus please

grizzled sleet Aug 10, 2018, 12:37 AM

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New banana monsters using azerite to build big banana azerite monster

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 12:37 AM

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OHH BANANA

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8WvSGNEV24

YouTube

wiifan2054

Donkey kong 64 Oh Banana

▶ Play video

grizzled sleet Aug 10, 2018, 12:38 AM

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https://pre00.deviantart.net/f19c/th/pre/i/2015/106/a/9/banana_monster_by_zingwalker-d7qconj.png

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Banana monsters like this

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Their boss is a Banana Queen

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 12:39 AM

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this is why we shouldn't get tel'abim

plain vigil Aug 10, 2018, 12:39 AM

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Isn't there a quest for horde and Alliance to go kill gorillas?

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 12:39 AM

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ohh banana

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Its not like blizzard hasn't embraced memes

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inb4 THICC reaction in the giveaway

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quite surprised

grizzled sleet Aug 10, 2018, 12:44 AM

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i'm still waiting for the 180 days subscription bundle

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 12:45 AM

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Didn't they

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Disable sharding for rp realms?

grizzled sleet Aug 10, 2018, 12:45 AM

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yes unless someone is grouped with someone from rp realm

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 12:47 AM

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they disabled sharding of Non-rp realms with RP realms unless they are grouped together

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 12:47 AM

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Apparently mg has shard on sw

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 12:47 AM

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Yea it'll shard with other RP realms

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but only shard with non-RP realms when the group leader is from an RP realm

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 12:48 AM

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I meant the other kind of shard, where it has shard on its own realm

uncut vault Aug 10, 2018, 12:51 AM

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sharding was reactivated yesterday for RP servers in preparation for the xpac launch, and has never been disabled in war mode on RP servers, despite what they said

dense plover Aug 10, 2018, 12:51 AM

#

^

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i think the pvp thing is probably due to the massive numbers

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 12:51 AM

#

So they did reactivate it

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Think it will be until xpac?

dense plover Aug 10, 2018, 12:52 AM

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they are trying to balance horde and alliance in pvp because so many people are using it for rp

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nno

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god no

uncut vault Aug 10, 2018, 12:52 AM

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yeah for about two weeks, will probably be active till about uldir launch

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they only activate it for high stress launches

dense plover Aug 10, 2018, 12:52 AM

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nah, wont be that long

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probably a week or so

#

and itll still try and shard within itself

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the same goes for warmode, it tries to shard with other rp shards first

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 12:53 AM

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We need 3 shards

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A normal-rp shard

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a pvpv shard

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and a pvprp shard

dense plover Aug 10, 2018, 12:53 AM

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thats not how it works makore

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it only shards pvp when there are so many more of one faction

#

and then it tries to shard to match faction and rp

#

they talked about how they plan to change it eventually

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making the launch smooth is higher priority

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 12:54 AM

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Ye

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I know

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It's just

#

Would have love an announcement

dense plover Aug 10, 2018, 12:55 AM

#

they did

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there was a bluepost on warmode pvp sharding

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and how its mainly due to faction imbalance

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 12:55 AM

#

No no

dense plover Aug 10, 2018, 12:55 AM

#

and how they plan to tweak it

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 12:55 AM

#

On the RP Shard

dense plover Aug 10, 2018, 12:55 AM

#

they did that too

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 12:56 AM

#

oh?

#

letmecheck

dense plover Aug 10, 2018, 12:56 AM

#

they disabled it shortly after prepatch

#

and in that post

#

they said it woul;d be reenabled a few days before launch

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and then disabled again once the server stress is gone

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 12:57 AM

#

Ah

#

Like in legion

dense plover Aug 10, 2018, 12:59 AM

#

yes

#

exactly like in legion

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they arent planning to make changes

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its just needed to stop the servers crashing

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 12:59 AM

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Ye, i prefer that

grizzled sleet Aug 10, 2018, 1:08 AM

#

Next expansion will add a new class : Necromancer
Expansion after will add 2 new races : Ethereals and.......

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MURLOCS

#

murloc

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 1:09 AM

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Ah

#

the bok cut made it feel natural now

rich ocean Aug 10, 2018, 1:12 AM

#

So im trying to remember if there is a "leveling guide" addon for BFA

#

i think there was one for legion...

#

but i cant remember its name.

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 1:14 AM

#

I dont think so

#

Also

#

Are the pvp sets class themed

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like

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one class gets one with different stuff?

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or for example, all plates have the same set?

rich ocean Aug 10, 2018, 1:14 AM

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Oh Zygor.

#

all have all

#

class sets are gone

#

its now armor based

grizzled sleet Aug 10, 2018, 1:16 AM

#

Gladiator set is a recolor of Warfront set
Elite PvP set is Tier 3 Warfront set

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or a recolor of Tier 3 Warfront set

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anyway pvp and warfront are the same

#

Imagine it stays like this, armor based for 10 years, then Blizzard write : Expansion X will feature CLASS THEMED SETS !!!!!!!!

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 1:20 AM

#

I wouldn't mind that tbh

#

Like sure the raid gear doesn't look that great for Uldir, but the questing and dungeon gear look fantastic

grizzled sleet Aug 10, 2018, 1:21 AM

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Uldir doesn't count, because it's like EN

#

I think second raid gear will be a lot better

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 1:22 AM

#

unlike EN, Uldir is it's own tier with its own specific theme of gear. It is bland but I kinda like that it is.

#

It's titan based and titan stuff has been bland, sleek, efficient.

grizzled sleet Aug 10, 2018, 1:22 AM

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Yea but it seems like they didn't put too much details into it

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 1:23 AM

#

Yea. LFR-Heroic certainly could have used a bit more work, but IMO the Mythic variants make up for it

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 2:19 AM

#

Ahh that cross rp addon is interesting

dense plover Aug 10, 2018, 2:26 AM

#

Mimig

#

Gladiator pvp is always a recolor

#

It’s usually a raid gear recolor

grizzled sleet Aug 10, 2018, 2:56 AM

#

yea

#

So, alliance lost at teldrassil, and again at lordaeron, their first win should be the warfront right?

uncut vault Aug 10, 2018, 3:05 AM

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Assuming each warfront is limited time, which we arent sure yet, yeah theyd likely win

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 3:06 AM

#

oof

#

me not getting dis toa

uncut vault Aug 10, 2018, 3:21 AM

#

https://i.imgur.com/lv9FOcn.jpg

Imgur

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https://i.imgur.com/nqfsiIm.jpg

Imgur

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 3:26 AM

#

freaking hordes

#

killin sneks

tulip sun Aug 10, 2018, 3:32 AM

#

That made me actually laugh

urban dew Aug 10, 2018, 3:34 AM

#

Same

#

They hurt my sneks, but it made me laugh

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 4:03 AM

#

I has

#

A concept for a new legendary

#

come and gather

#

Legendary Keystone

#

It adjust to any dungeon

#

And has a min level of +10 that scales

#

But this doesnt expires

#

how bow dat eh?

#

The way to get dis thing is completing a +25 Mythic with gear that isn't current bis

uncut vault Aug 10, 2018, 6:56 AM

#

Christie Golden tweeted out a new piece of art from the novellas

#

📎 image.png

#

From the first page

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 6:57 AM

#

Where does this take place

#

Doesn't look like tell or tell related

agile token Aug 10, 2018, 6:58 AM

#

Stormwind

uncut vault Aug 10, 2018, 6:59 AM

#

Stormwind, novella opens with them practicing

brave cypress Aug 10, 2018, 7:00 AM

#

that seems like sparring at the start

uncut vault Aug 10, 2018, 7:00 AM

#

Leads into Mathias first telling them about silithus

brave cypress Aug 10, 2018, 7:00 AM

#

what @uncut vault said

#

cool pic anyway 😄

plain vigil Aug 10, 2018, 7:00 AM

#

Late to the convo

#

But honestly

#

The mail uldir set is pretty great

#

Just the helm and Shoulders suck

#

Which is why i'll be using the dragonrider helm

spice cargo Aug 10, 2018, 2:54 PM

#

Quick question for Beta players. Do you guys know if at the end of each zone we have a Dungeon quest - Just like Legion did ?

tropic trail Aug 10, 2018, 2:58 PM

#

It's a bit different to legion (because each faction only levels in half the zones), but most every big storyline culminates in a dungeon.

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 3:38 PM

#

So

#

Azerite reorigination thing from uldir

#

Is like the titan trinkets?

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 3:40 PM

#

It might be

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 3:47 PM

#

Azerite traits arenr random, ye?

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 3:49 PM

#

Correct

jovial coral Aug 10, 2018, 3:52 PM

#

Azshara crater should come around sometime

grizzled sleet Aug 10, 2018, 4:03 PM

#

You only need piece from raid to get that buff right ? no need to stack 3?

tranquil steeple Aug 10, 2018, 4:04 PM

#

probably won't stack when the secondary stat % increase is that high

#

(hell even the secondary stat rating itself being that high)

grizzled sleet Aug 10, 2018, 4:04 PM

#

hopefully, I don't want to be forced to use x3 of the raid trait

tranquil steeple Aug 10, 2018, 4:05 PM

#

if it does stack I'm expecting a reduced efficiency on subsequent pieces with the azerite trait

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 4:06 PM

#

Prolly

#

You know how blizz is with disminishing returns

#

You know

#

Azerite gear seems a good alternative to tier effects

strange falcon Aug 10, 2018, 4:20 PM

#

makore is so WOKE right now

grizzled sleet Aug 10, 2018, 4:28 PM

#

It's not an alternative, it's a replacement murloc

strange falcon Aug 10, 2018, 4:50 PM

#

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/419964841361539073/477409411154051080/703ffd7.jpg

untold fractal Aug 10, 2018, 5:02 PM

#

LOL

tranquil steeple Aug 10, 2018, 5:03 PM

#

quik mafs

limber mural Aug 10, 2018, 5:13 PM

#

I did feel that Jaina's expressions there would be a meme

#

it's typical 'character that you're not meant to be paying attention to but nonetheless is visible as day

sharp bluff Aug 10, 2018, 5:15 PM

#

Reminds me of Junkrat's 'Nam face

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 6:12 PM

#

And Teldrassil is magically resistant to fire! Was it's connection to the Dream severed? Do the devs care? Likely not since they've taken Chronicles volumes 2 and 3 and just tossed them out the window with this expansion. Nice waste of paper there, Blizzard...

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 6:13 PM

#

arcane bolts

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 6:16 PM

#

Uuuugh

#

Jaina is suddenly OP, Anduin is perfect and made of sparkles, Sylvanas is twirling her eyebrows and Baine and Saurfang have no balls. It feels like I am watching Square Enix write for WoW...

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 6:26 PM

#

Jaina is suddenly op...

#

Someone didn't do MoP questlines

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 6:32 PM

#

I don't recall Jaina ever being able to lift a ship from the bottom of the ocean and fly it Peter Pan style.

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 6:33 PM

#

Hello? Power of a Titan in her Staff?

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 6:33 PM

#

Shes not suddenly op Sne

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 6:33 PM

#

She never showed her power, which is different, but since mop she has been quite strong

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 6:34 PM

#

She has Aegwynns power, or at least a portion, and absorbed the remnants of Aman thuls power that Lei Shen had and was using to power his armies and machines

#

Until now, none of this had ever been utilized

#

Its like going through a D&D campaign not realizing you have a scroll of resurrection sitting in your bags until the very end.

agile token Aug 10, 2018, 6:35 PM

#

Exacty that lol

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 6:35 PM

#

People often forget that she is Jaina Proudmore

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 6:36 PM

#

Wow... so all that power is forgotten until now. Who needs continuity?

#

Blizzard's usually been a little better than this at keeping up with continuity. I mean, they've codified most of the lore. You'd think new authors would be made to read that at the very least.

dense plover Aug 10, 2018, 6:37 PM

#

remember though

#

she didnt permanently clear the blight

#

it was just temporary

#

so she is strong

#

but even jaina cant remove blight with a wave of her handd

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 6:38 PM

#

Also... has the Purge of Dalaran been retconned or are we going to pretend that killing people who, while they were Horde races, had nothing to do with what Horde leadership was doing?

night swift Aug 10, 2018, 6:38 PM

#

Thats still canon I believe

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 6:38 PM

#

Because in the novel, the reason Jaina left the coucil was reduced down to 'Angry words'

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 6:38 PM

#

That wasnt racism tho

#

You have events mismatched

#

During MoP jaina led the Kirin Tor

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 6:39 PM

#

The purge is never mentioned in the book even though Jaina comes back to Dalaran to meet with Kalec.

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 6:39 PM

#

Yes. Because the Purge happened in MoP

#

While Jaina was leader

sullen dagger Aug 10, 2018, 6:40 PM

#

regarding the purge

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 6:40 PM

#

In which, it is canon that Aethas did know of what garrosh was doing.

#

And stepped

#

Aside

#

So yes the purge is justified

sullen dagger Aug 10, 2018, 6:40 PM

#

it was towards the sunreavers and sunreavers only, not the horde

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 6:40 PM

#

The murder of women and children isn't worth a foot note, but a few soldiers being killed in Theramore, where Baine freaking warned the entire city what was coming so they could all escape... no. That's worse.

sullen dagger Aug 10, 2018, 6:40 PM

#

and jaina herself offered to leave HER city

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 6:40 PM

#

The purge removed the Sunreavers and banned the horde from using Dalaran

sullen dagger Aug 10, 2018, 6:40 PM

#

before attacking

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 6:40 PM

#

Also

#

Yiu got that hella wrong

sullen dagger Aug 10, 2018, 6:40 PM

#

and the one you kull in the quest, were the ones that refued to leave

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 6:40 PM

#

Jaina nor even Vereesa murdered civilians

#

Just those that resist and attempt to kill

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 6:41 PM

#

The assets were also stolen, don't forget that.

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 6:41 PM

#

Jaina imprisons everyone else she comes accross

#

They were the kirin tors outright and when they refused to leave the city, they rebelled and fought back

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 6:41 PM

#

Because Jaina has no sense of scope...

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 6:41 PM

#

You are sent to kill them for this

#

She does

#

The horde broke dalarans neutrality

#

The horde

#

Recieve punishment

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 6:42 PM

#

You mean Garrosh

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 6:42 PM

#

Garrosh -is- the horde

#

Literaly

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 6:42 PM

#

No

#

He was not

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 6:42 PM

#

The horde lives breaths and dies for the warchief

#

Yes

#

He was

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 6:42 PM

#

The other horde leaders were in open rebellion against him by that time

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 6:42 PM

#

He was warchief at the time that he made the sunreavers steal the bell

#

Nope

#

None were

#

All followed him at the time of the bell.

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 6:43 PM

#

Openly, yes. Not behind his back

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 6:43 PM

#

The rebellion didnt start until nearly a year after the purge

sullen dagger Aug 10, 2018, 6:43 PM

#

^

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 6:43 PM

#

That timeline does not add up in my head.

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 6:43 PM

#

Whats in your head

#

And what happened

#

Dont line up either

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 6:43 PM

#

Come to think of it, has Blizzard ever been good with time? Hell no...

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 6:43 PM

#

Start of MoP when garrosh makes full official landfall

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 6:43 PM

#

Then why are you stilll playing

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 6:44 PM

#

During the operation shieldwall time

#

Which was the first few months kf MoP

#

Thats when the purge happened

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 6:44 PM

#

Also the Horde didn't rebel until the last phases of shieldwall

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 6:44 PM

#

My sub ran out months ago. I am too poor to resub. I guess this is a non poor person's game. Fine.

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 6:44 PM

#

He cant defend his hate of alliance so he tries to swap the subject around

#

/shrug

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 6:45 PM

#

I just want to know what's going on in the story and I can't reconcile anything.

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 6:45 PM

#

O-o

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 6:45 PM

#

You dont tho

#

You come in here accusing and spouting nothing

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 6:45 PM

#

are you talking about Lor'themar?

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 6:45 PM

#

We correct you, you call us on it, we tell you the timeline, you dont want it.

#

/shrug

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 6:45 PM

#

Hate of the alliance... No. I don't hate the Alliance as a whole. I dislike Greymane as an idiot, Anduin has become a Gary Stu with magical lie detecting bones, and Baine had his balls cut off.

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 6:46 PM

#

The Alliance is great, best faction IMO but I am bias

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 6:46 PM

#

Anduin isnt a gary stu tho.

#

Greymane isnt an idiot either

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 6:46 PM

#

Lie. Detecting. Bones

night swift Aug 10, 2018, 6:46 PM

#

How is Anduin a gary stu

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 6:46 PM

#

Read the novel

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 6:46 PM

#

Ehh I think someone lack reading skills

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 6:46 PM

#

What? The UNDEAD BANSHEE QUEEN THATS ACTIVELY LIED MULTIPLE TIMES

#

Is being called

#

A LIER?!

#

Wowe

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 6:47 PM

#

Tmw having a bad feelign is mary/gary stu sue

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 6:47 PM

#

Ugh... That's not what I am saying. In order for the story to move in the book, everyone had to hold the idiot ball because Anduin would have caught them in a lie. Calia had to be an idiot to get in on the meeting, for instance.

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 6:47 PM

#

what the heck are you on?

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 6:47 PM

#

Why would she? Sylvanas is out of the loop

#

He council actively opposes sylvansd

#

Are you sure you read the book?

night swift Aug 10, 2018, 6:48 PM

#

Is he high rn?

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 6:49 PM

#

Yes. I read the book. With Anduin being raised as a royal, he would have known the political cluster bringing Calia to any meeting would have caused.

#

Sylvanas is just a cartoon character at this point. I never liked her as Horde leader. Vol'jin was better, but he got killed before having much actual screen time as Warchief.

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 6:50 PM

#

Except that no one knew calia was there.

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 6:50 PM

#

Anduin did

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 6:51 PM

#

Not even Sylvanss

#

Literally. The whole thing was a big fuck up of an accident

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 6:51 PM

#

Anduin knew because she asked Anduin if she could attend. She wore a hood so no one could see her face

#

Read the book again

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 6:51 PM

#

Yes. I know. NONE OF THE HORDE DID THO

#

So whats the danger?

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 6:52 PM

#

Because most of the Forsaken were from Lordaeran and would have recognized her and Sylvanas has a hate boner for anything to do with Menithil

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 6:52 PM

#

EXCEPT THAT ALL THR FORSAKEN THERE WERE AGAINST SYLVANS

#

How do you not know this purpose?!

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 6:52 PM

#

Only the Desolate council was at the meeting.

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 6:53 PM

#

And those wanted to go with their families

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 6:53 PM

#

And of that council, only a little more than half were actually killed.

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 6:53 PM

#

Literally, the desolate council and those that follow them are AGAINST sylvanas. They want to die.

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 6:53 PM

#

And actually everyone of the council died

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 6:53 PM

#

The ones who had gotten along well with their families but came back when called were also killed.

#

No. Not the whole council.

#

Only those who'd had bitter relations with their human relatives.

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 6:53 PM

#

I cant even anymore

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 6:54 PM

#

Read it again

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 6:54 PM

#

Sylvanas slaughtered everyone

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 6:54 PM

#

No

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 6:54 PM

#

She freaked out

#

Yes

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 6:54 PM

#

Not everyone

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 6:54 PM

#

She did

#

@dense plover

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 6:54 PM

#

Calling dem squad

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 6:54 PM

#

Deal with this man.

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 6:54 PM

#

Because I disagree and remember the book?

#

Fine.

tulip sun Aug 10, 2018, 6:54 PM

#

She let those who returned esrly live

#

But every.other forsaken?

#

Dead

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 6:54 PM

#

Yea

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 6:55 PM

#

So the people who werent there werent killed? You dont say?

dense plover Aug 10, 2018, 6:55 PM

#

there were people she didnt kill

tulip sun Aug 10, 2018, 6:55 PM

#

Vris, dont need to be an ass

dense plover Aug 10, 2018, 6:55 PM

#

the ones who were rejected

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 6:55 PM

#

^^^

dense plover Aug 10, 2018, 6:55 PM

#

the ones who had already lost hope

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 6:55 PM

#

Exactly

dense plover Aug 10, 2018, 6:55 PM

#

everyone else though

#

they were killed

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 6:55 PM

#

And the council were among them, mhm?

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 6:55 PM

#

Sylvanas said it her self. Hope was a disease and she had to cut it out

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 6:55 PM

#

the entire desolate council was slaughtered

tulip sun Aug 10, 2018, 6:56 PM

#

No...

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 6:56 PM

#

No

dense plover Aug 10, 2018, 6:56 PM

#

nope

tulip sun Aug 10, 2018, 6:56 PM

#

Some are alive

dense plover Aug 10, 2018, 6:56 PM

#

sorry vris

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 6:56 PM

#

Some are still... 'alive'

dense plover Aug 10, 2018, 6:56 PM

#

only the ones who were accepted by their families

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 6:56 PM

#

Exactly

dense plover Aug 10, 2018, 6:56 PM

#

the ones who were rejected never went out there

#

and werent killed

#

they didnt even see the massacre sylvanas committed

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 6:56 PM

#

So. In arathi

#

At this meeting

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 6:56 PM

#

And the ones who had been rejected on the field and came back early were also spared.

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 6:56 PM

#

Wwhen sylvanas went berserk

dense plover Aug 10, 2018, 6:57 PM

#

she killed every forsaken out on the field

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 6:57 PM

#

The whole thing was an exercize to see who could be trusted

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 6:57 PM

#

So. In her attack

#

As I keep saying

#

When she kills everyone

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 6:57 PM

#

I might have to find the page and paragraph.

dense plover Aug 10, 2018, 6:57 PM

#

but she doesnt, she only kills those out on the field vris

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 6:57 PM

#

Yes. In

#

Her

#

Attack

tulip sun Aug 10, 2018, 6:57 PM

#

Desolate council is not totally wiped

dense plover Aug 10, 2018, 6:58 PM

#

it specifically mentions how some forsaken were rejected and returned home to the undercity over the course of the day instead of watching everyone else be happy while they lost all hope

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 6:58 PM

#

Right. I get that

#

I keep saying when she actually goes berserk and starts slaughtering everyone indiscriminately.

#

She doesnt kill everyone?

tulip sun Aug 10, 2018, 6:58 PM

#

We said she does. She kills anyone in the field

dense plover Aug 10, 2018, 6:58 PM

#

no

#

she only kills those on the field

tulip sun Aug 10, 2018, 6:58 PM

#

Forsaken

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 6:59 PM

#

Thank you

tulip sun Aug 10, 2018, 6:59 PM

#

In the field

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 6:59 PM

#

We are saying the same thing

dense plover Aug 10, 2018, 6:59 PM

#

whether or not they were going to run back or run towards anduin

#

but

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there were some forsaken who went to the event

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 6:59 PM

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The ones who had been rejected early lived

dense plover Aug 10, 2018, 6:59 PM

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but were not out on the field

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those forsaken lived

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though they do not know the atrocity sylvanas committed

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 6:59 PM

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So if they werent there. They werent there to die. Thanks for clarifying that.

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I guess what I keep thinking is that those that left, also left the council.

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They wouldnt oppose sylvanas if there isnt anything left for them

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 7:00 PM

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"The only Desolate Council members I trust are the ones who returned
to me early on, broken and bitter. Truly Desolate. All the others…I cannot
allow that sentiment, that hope, to grow. It is an infection ready to spread. I
have to cut it out.” " page 241

tulip sun Aug 10, 2018, 7:00 PM

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They didnt oppose her to start with

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Their leader was loyal till she died

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 7:01 PM

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There.

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 7:01 PM

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Yes they did? The council was formed opposing sylvanas as they wanted to die

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 7:01 PM

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I just posted a quote...

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Go to that page and see it for yourself,

tulip sun Aug 10, 2018, 7:01 PM

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If they wanted to die, they could kill themselves. That is not opposing her reign

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Opposing her is what Calia did

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 7:02 PM

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Yes it is?its very mucb opposing sylvanas goals

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Its opposing all shes doing. Its opposing Sylvanas

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Sylvanas even gets annoyed at them

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And nathanos has to point out that its the point of free will

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 7:02 PM

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posts a quote to prove her point... gets ignored

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 7:03 PM

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Yes youre right. There.

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Happy?

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 7:03 PM

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Thank you. I'd rather not be dog piled.

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 7:05 PM

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Regardless. The horde actively broke dalarans rules. Jaina as ruler of Dalaran, granted without input or discussion, moved to imemdiately remove the horde.

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 7:05 PM

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Which was not the best decision

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 7:05 PM

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No it wasn't, but using dalaran as a staging area to attack an alliance city opens dalaran to being attacked by both sides

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 7:05 PM

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She was unhinged because of Garrosh's actions. The bombing of Theramore was the last straw for most of those in the Horde

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 7:05 PM

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She wasnt actually

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The alliance side shows she got better

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 7:06 PM

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Jaina and the Silver covenant made the right choice

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 7:06 PM

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She was using dalaran as the ultimate reason to trust the horde again

tulip sun Aug 10, 2018, 7:06 PM

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Jaina aint the leader of Dalaran anymore

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 7:06 PM

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We arent speaking of now Kham

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 7:06 PM

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Listen... neither the Alliance Nor Horde are all bad or all good. It's morally grey. Until we get to this expansion. Then it because a saturday morning cartoon.

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 7:07 PM

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We never said it was sen

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Jaina was more than justified in her actions

sharp bluff Aug 10, 2018, 7:07 PM

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Quick question, does anyone besides Sylvanas know what happens to dead forsaken? since we are talking about them dying

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 7:07 PM

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Doesnt make them right

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 7:07 PM

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The Alliance burries them

sharp bluff Aug 10, 2018, 7:07 PM

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no i mean in the shadowlands

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 7:07 PM

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The alliance isnt apart of the Kirin tor anymore

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That falls to Khadgar and the council

spark ginkgo Aug 10, 2018, 7:08 PM

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And Khadgar is tired of both faction's crap

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 7:08 PM

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In which, when information comes out for the horde breaking dalarans law

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Yes

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Banishment is the right course of action

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The sunreavers jaina captured stayed in the hold as legitimate prisoners of war because the horde made their move to make dalaran involved in the war

obtuse token Aug 10, 2018, 8:44 PM

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so how much grinding is involved in getting one piece of azerite gear?

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 8:50 PM

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zero

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You're awarded your starting pieces in questing

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The specific pieces of Azerite gear drops from specific bosses across all the dungeons, won't drop from the weekly M+ caches, and raid bosses.

obtuse token Aug 10, 2018, 8:52 PM

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it's the getting the ones from boss drops I'm worried about

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 8:54 PM

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They drop like any other piece of gear, and if you get online and check the loot tables, certain bosses only drop azerite gear.

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IIRC

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Oh right got it a bit wrong @obtuse token Certain bosses will drop the azerite gear for the armor type, azerite gear is not class specific.

onyx mason Aug 10, 2018, 9:18 PM

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Did sylvanus commit a war crime by using blight?

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Cause she just did a theramore

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Cause after wrathgate I thought it was banned

tropic trail Aug 10, 2018, 9:21 PM

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It's technically always been banned even before that

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Because you know

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Necromancy

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 9:23 PM

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even without the blight she still commited war crimes, like Tell, that was a war crime and mass genocide

sullen dagger Aug 10, 2018, 9:23 PM

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i guess that's like nukes

tropic trail Aug 10, 2018, 9:31 PM

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Not really

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It's more like chemical weapons

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mana bomb is the nuke

sullen dagger Aug 10, 2018, 9:33 PM

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which is kida forbidden aswell

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kinda*

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mass destruction weapons, i was refering

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or at least uncontrollable after it's deployment

tropic trail Aug 10, 2018, 9:35 PM

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You can control them to an extent, it's just whether or not you want to risk doing that

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 9:58 PM

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Chemical warframe and weapons are mega illegal

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Just sayin

sullen dagger Aug 10, 2018, 9:59 PM

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yep

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guys, isnt the azshara vid super late?

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 10:00 PM

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We are

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Probably going to get it late in the game

sullen dagger Aug 10, 2018, 10:02 PM

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werent one each week till launch?

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maybe it will release with the actual xpac

steel venture Aug 10, 2018, 10:02 PM

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yeah but battle for lordaeron came out and gave us three extra cinematics

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and old soldiers came out a little before that

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so azshara warbringers probably on the 14th

heavy cairn Aug 10, 2018, 10:04 PM

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I'm excited. I don't even need azshara on the 13th/14th

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expansion will come with several cinematics, that's enough for me.

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but if azshara does come out I guess I won't mind 😉

sullen dagger Aug 10, 2018, 10:04 PM

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yeah, the thing is they said that

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 10:05 PM

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THEY SAID NOTHING M8 slams hand

heavy cairn Aug 10, 2018, 10:06 PM

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yea Blizzard gave no release schedule

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just said "the coming weeks" or something lol

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I'm thinking azshara will be a few days to a week after launch. or maybe it'll be a day or so before.

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a short while before legion came out, there was this little video that showed several clips from ingame legion cinematics (val'sharah, suramar, stormheim, plus re-showing some stuff from illidari and broken shore). it was a nice preview of what was going on, maybe the azshara warbringer video could end up serving the same purpose (and be released a day or two before launch).

sullen dagger Aug 10, 2018, 10:07 PM

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🤔

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 10:20 PM

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Orc is best dancer

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 10:27 PM

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The thrall stuff was dropped right?

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 10:28 PM

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wtb a race that dances to dk rap

uncut vault Aug 10, 2018, 10:40 PM

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My bet is they’ll show Azshara short at gamescom and announce 8.1 PTR

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 10:41 PM

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what chu think we will get this blizzcom?

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new expac?

uncut vault Aug 10, 2018, 10:41 PM

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Nah

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I think they’re gonna be sticking to their new schedule

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 10:41 PM

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Something bout dragons hopefully?

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New allied races?

uncut vault Aug 10, 2018, 10:42 PM

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Major patches announced at the blizzcon after xpac launch, xpac announcement at the next blizzcon, xpac launch in the summer after

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Rinse and repeat

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 10:43 PM

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It's one year expac?

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or year half?

heavy cairn Aug 10, 2018, 10:43 PM

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two years

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 10:43 PM

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8.1 announced at gamescon, maybe new allied races, perhaps announce plunder isle zone story content , nazajtar raid of course etc

heavy cairn Aug 10, 2018, 10:44 PM

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I highly doubt any of those will be in 8.1, except maybe allied races.

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 10:44 PM

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I would like

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If they make the expac last longer wit gud content

heavy cairn Aug 10, 2018, 10:44 PM

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nazjatar seems like 8.2 kind of thing

uncut vault Aug 10, 2018, 10:44 PM

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That’s my bet. Since BfA’s main breakaway from Legion is 8.1 being a full on content patch, as opposed to a small instance and story based patch like 7.1

fierce crane Aug 10, 2018, 10:44 PM

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I can't imagine the other two allied races we know are coming would be held off for too long.

urban dew Aug 10, 2018, 10:44 PM

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They already said Azshara would be 8.1 raid boss

heavy cairn Aug 10, 2018, 10:44 PM

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oh, didn't hear that.

uncut vault Aug 10, 2018, 10:45 PM

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Azshara is 8.1.5, more precisely

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Nighthold

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 10:45 PM

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Don't mention suramar

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 10:45 PM

#

Though I'd love Dragon Isle more tbh, guess thats either 8.2 or 8.3. Though I'd also love greenwood pass or quel'thrhlas patch; Anduin marchinv on Quel'thalas likr Arthas, instead if march of thr damnrd it would be march if the just and parrle each other

uncut vault Aug 10, 2018, 10:45 PM

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And unlike 7.1, we’ll likely be getting a full zone of content similar to Broken shore or argus for 8.1

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 10:45 PM

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Uncover

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All the isles around the malestrom

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malestrom pls

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 10:46 PM

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@uncut vault thoughts on that?

uncut vault Aug 10, 2018, 10:46 PM

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I can see dragon isles being either 8.2 with a Quel’thalas warfront, or a .5 content thing similar to Chromie

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Small story tangent in the same vein that Isle of Thunder was

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 10:47 PM

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Hell yeah

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 10:47 PM

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Uncover Chromie's death scenarios

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i want to know who sends stuff to kill her

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 10:47 PM

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Quel'thtlas warfront would be awesome

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High elves and Void elves vs blood elves and Nightborne

uncut vault Aug 10, 2018, 10:48 PM

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Best bet is Silvermoon will be bubbled off by Ban’dinoriel for the sake of not updating it, and allowing flying in the new zone

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 10:48 PM

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wat in tarnation

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 10:48 PM

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They can update it

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They can phase it and update it HD keep it in outland

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 10:48 PM

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I wonder how fucked would the game become if they dare to update old zones

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 10:48 PM

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If they are lazy

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HD silvermoon retaken by alliance painted blue again is the dream

fierce crane Aug 10, 2018, 10:50 PM

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Imagine the salt.

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 10:50 PM

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Only people with salt would be BE players tbh

uncut vault Aug 10, 2018, 10:50 PM

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Silvermoon itself will likely not be the warfront. I’d love it, but it’ll likely be at the river between Eversong and Ghostlands. The entirety of QT is a full on zone with full mountains, with the exception of Silvermoon. Bubbling it off in the warfront phase similar to Vanilla Dalaran would allow them to make the zone HD and focus on building new warfront assets, instead of revamping the city into something entirely new to accommodate the new spaces

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Story wise it makes sense to be the focus, but warfronts aren’t as design intensive as recreating Silvermoon would be

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 10:50 PM

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@uncut vault Maybe so, however greenwood/pass could work too

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I mean it only makes sense for the Alliance to march in Quel'thalas

heavy cairn Aug 10, 2018, 10:52 PM

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I hope if they do what you are saying, porter, that HD quel'thalas gets integrated into eastern kingdoms continent

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 10:52 PM

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Perhaps Anduin offers the BE a chance ti rejoin thr alliance, ans vereesa tries to redeem them, which leads to lor'themar insulting us so we attack

fierce crane Aug 10, 2018, 10:52 PM

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Which is funny because he's tried rejoining quite a few times.

uncut vault Aug 10, 2018, 10:52 PM

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It would be nice if they would, but if it is a warfront, reintegrating isn’t required, as Arathi is essentially an instance that you enter and exit via your base portal

heavy cairn Aug 10, 2018, 10:53 PM

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oh, was unaware.

uncut vault Aug 10, 2018, 10:53 PM

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It’s in the open world for immersion’s sake

heavy cairn Aug 10, 2018, 10:53 PM

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arathi instance allows flying?
just asking because you mentioned HD QT would

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 10:53 PM

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Yeaah they could honestly update Quel'thalas and phase jt/instance it and make it HD

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 10:53 PM

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I hope not

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 10:53 PM

#

Arathi warfronts has no flying

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Would ruin it

heavy cairn Aug 10, 2018, 10:54 PM

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to be clear, the "open world" part has no flying either? i.e. where the world boss is, rather than the actual battle?

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 10:54 PM

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Open world doe

uncut vault Aug 10, 2018, 10:55 PM

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It does have flying for the open world version, and the open world QT likely would too, which is why bandinoriel will likely come into play

heavy cairn Aug 10, 2018, 10:55 PM

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OK, then I still don't understand how that could be done without reintegration into EK

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 10:55 PM

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HD quel'thalas wouldn't need flying and if they updated Quel'thrals is would most likely stay in outland but

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It would mean no flyjng

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 10:55 PM

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Hmm but

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to reintegrate qt entirely

#

would be

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 10:55 PM

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Hard

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 10:56 PM

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remaking the whole azeroth

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To last gen assets

heavy cairn Aug 10, 2018, 10:56 PM

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do the mountains not already match on both sides?

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 10:56 PM

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And you know that they don't want that

fierce crane Aug 10, 2018, 10:56 PM

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Still waiting on them to update models from ages ago.

uncut vault Aug 10, 2018, 10:56 PM

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Because similar to the work it would take to reintegrate Silvermoon as a real city instead of smoke and mirrors, erasing Vanilla Quel’thalas and putting both the old and new Quel’thalas into the open world is a lot of work

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 10:56 PM

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Would take a lot of work hwnce why they keep it in outland and just phase/instancea HD one

uncut vault Aug 10, 2018, 10:56 PM

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Work that warfronts currently don’t demand

heavy cairn Aug 10, 2018, 10:56 PM

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not asking for old QT in open world

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just for new

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 10:57 PM

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Thwy could update QT and make it HD and phase it no probpem

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But open world wjll take too much work sadly

heavy cairn Aug 10, 2018, 10:57 PM

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hmm

#

my point was

#

doesn't QT map file include part of eastern plaguelands?

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therefore, isn't there a seamless transition already created?

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 10:58 PM

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seamless transition?

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 10:58 PM

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It doesn't.

heavy cairn Aug 10, 2018, 10:58 PM

#

oh

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 10:58 PM

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QT's area is very much JUST

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ghost lands

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and QT

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You can open a map editor of WoW's files and see it's on the same plane as the Outland map is

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It's 100% separated off of EK

heavy cairn Aug 10, 2018, 10:59 PM

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oh I know it's on the same plane of outland

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and it's separate

but for some reason I thought it had a tiny tiny fragment of plaguelands

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 10:59 PM

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The easiest way is for them to Update QT HD one is to phase/instance it keeping jn outlandif course

heavy cairn Aug 10, 2018, 11:00 PM

#

of course.

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that is quite obviously the easiest way. it's just not a way that allows flying

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unless they make invisible walls far before you get close enough to the mountains to see over them

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 11:01 PM

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The same is true in reverse

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 11:01 PM

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Which might happen in BFA but might not only thing against it is what tjey said at blizzcoon ut stuff changes drasticly

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 11:01 PM

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Eastern Plaguelands does have a tiny bit of Ghostlands

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which might be what you're thinking

heavy cairn Aug 10, 2018, 11:01 PM

#

oh.

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 11:01 PM

#

You can go to ut

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 11:01 PM

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but that is Vanilla Ghostlands. So before the actual work was done in BC

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 11:01 PM

#

The invisible wall is down

heavy cairn Aug 10, 2018, 11:01 PM

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wait really

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 11:02 PM

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Not intended of course

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 11:02 PM

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You can slip by the invisble wall, even get to see old Stratholme and all that goodness

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but it's technically glitching out the game

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 11:02 PM

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Yeah

heavy cairn Aug 10, 2018, 11:02 PM

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I'm not going to do that

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 11:02 PM

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And you can get the boot

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or get tported out by a gm before saying "stop sneakin"

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 11:03 PM

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Nah

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GM doesn't know

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About it yet

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 11:03 PM

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I mean the glitch has existed since I think MoP

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 11:03 PM

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But the attention its bringjng means they will

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Yeah but more invisible wall is down

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Scarlett monastery and hearthglen

#

You can also swim around via sea or fly

heavy cairn Aug 10, 2018, 11:05 PM

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well going to ghostlands instance in game without glitches, I can see some of the eastern plaguelands trees, but it's pretty obviously just void after a short while

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 11:06 PM

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...

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slowly sends ticket

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 11:06 PM

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Yup.

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 11:06 PM

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smirks and snitches

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 11:06 PM

#

in any case, adding QT, and Exodar, into the vanilla world maps would be a lot of work

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and god knows what cutting out those swaths of the map to put them in would do to the rest of the game

heavy cairn Aug 10, 2018, 11:07 PM

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exodar doesn't need to be put back

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they just need to add more ocean around it then put invisible walls

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 11:07 PM

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Hence why they update QT aand phase it while staying in outland

heavy cairn Aug 10, 2018, 11:07 PM

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boom flying

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 11:07 PM

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If they do one, they have to do the other

heavy cairn Aug 10, 2018, 11:07 PM

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they only need QT because it's right next to another zone

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exodar is an indeterminate distance from mainland

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 11:07 PM

#

They need to make fully azeroth seamless

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Like, being able to fly to Kalimdor by ourselves

heavy cairn Aug 10, 2018, 11:08 PM

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azuremyst isle does not need to be integrated to the kalimdor server for the same reason EK doesn't

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it's far away

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and separated by large swath of ocean

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 11:08 PM

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Vris is there any IG stuff etc, teasing the horde want to invade exodar? Like specific info

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 11:08 PM

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but so is teldrassil. Technically, lorewise, Azuremyst and Bloodmyst can be seen from the shores.

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and nope

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they're being left alone

heavy cairn Aug 10, 2018, 11:09 PM

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was unaware of that lore fact

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 11:09 PM

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Well they might not

heavy cairn Aug 10, 2018, 11:09 PM

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for gameplay purposes though there's no need for the islands to be seen from the shore. unlike QT which you can literally see unfinished zones from either side on live (tiny bit of plaguelands from ghost lands, vanilla ghost lands from plaguelands)

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 11:09 PM

#

Stuff from Blizzcon changes drasticly

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If QT got updated for warfront or story content, it wouldn't require exodar getting updated if its a phased and story relevent

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It seems they are updating zones when becoming irrelevant llike ararhi

heavy cairn Aug 10, 2018, 11:11 PM

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from inside the ghostlands instance on live, I can see plaguelands up to the blue line:

📎 unknown.png

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so theoretically there is a reasonable smooth transition already implemented

actually I can see some trees that are a bit farther

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 11:11 PM

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QT is teased though might not come this expansion but it could come this expansion so we gotta wait and find out

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 11:13 PM

#

in theory yes

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 11:13 PM

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I'm not gonna base my judgement on what they said at Blizzcon as stuff could change drasticly since then and who knies what blizzard has un store they are full of surprises

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 11:13 PM

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but with how actual implementation works, you cannot overlay them

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that just causes more issues

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 11:14 PM

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Exaclty why I see if it does happen might not then they'd just updated and phase it

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And keep it in outland

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 11:14 PM

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Because

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Anything

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causes issues

heavy cairn Aug 10, 2018, 11:14 PM

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sure, you can't simply overlay them. oceans probably don't line up, etc.

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even with lordaeron not all the map changes were accounted for, some doodads are floating where the zeppelin towers were

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 11:15 PM

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Personally I's love it to go in overworld but it would be easier for them to update and phase it

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I outland

heavy cairn Aug 10, 2018, 11:15 PM

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however with that smooth transition already implemented, it would be at least easier than designing something from scratch

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I would think

uncut vault Aug 10, 2018, 11:17 PM

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Honestly another reason I hope they never integrate QT into the open world is because Vanilla QT is cool

heavy cairn Aug 10, 2018, 11:17 PM

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eh

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 11:18 PM

#

QT is cool

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But

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blood elves fuck it

uncut vault Aug 10, 2018, 11:18 PM

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I love the little highborne ruins, original deatholme

heavy cairn Aug 10, 2018, 11:18 PM

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sure but you can always look at those, someone's surely archived the map files

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on live, you're not allowed to go there so there's really no problem if they are removed

uncut vault Aug 10, 2018, 11:19 PM

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Looking at them and going to them are very different

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 11:19 PM

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Fuck the BE, they can go live in Suramar r somewhere else

uncut vault Aug 10, 2018, 11:19 PM

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I’ve got a warlock parked back behind the barriers for RP

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 11:19 PM

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Alliance will retake Silvermoon it will be our first victory

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Tell was a defeat our city wa burned and our people were mass genocided, lorderon we didn't retake it due to Slyvanans, she destoryed two cities.

reef magnet Aug 10, 2018, 11:21 PM

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did they take beta down because why it say install agine

ruby star Aug 10, 2018, 11:21 PM

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Beta should be up

reef magnet Aug 10, 2018, 11:21 PM

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i been in beta for weeks why it say install agine

grizzled sleet Aug 10, 2018, 11:22 PM

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@ruby star first victory is supposed to be Arathi warfront

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and horde will win next warfront

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on Kalimdor

heavy cairn Aug 10, 2018, 11:23 PM

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hit the locate button viper

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should be near the install one

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 11:24 PM

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inb4 horde loses all warfronts

grizzled sleet Aug 10, 2018, 11:24 PM

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murloc

heavy cairn Aug 10, 2018, 11:24 PM

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well hey the horde has it coming

#

they always seem to win

grizzled sleet Aug 10, 2018, 11:24 PM

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They can't win Arathi

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 11:25 PM

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They cfan't win the hearts of the people

grizzled sleet Aug 10, 2018, 11:25 PM

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They made peace their enemy

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 11:25 PM

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They made hinata their enemy

grizzled sleet Aug 10, 2018, 11:25 PM

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murloc

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 11:25 PM

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fucking

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weebs

reef magnet Aug 10, 2018, 11:25 PM

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so there is a update

heavy cairn Aug 10, 2018, 11:26 PM

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wait is there a serious reason why horde can't win arathi?

dense plover Aug 10, 2018, 11:26 PM

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i mean

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they can for a bit

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 11:26 PM

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I mean what forces are fighting over it are leftovers from the horde defendors of Lordaeron

dense plover Aug 10, 2018, 11:26 PM

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but permanently?

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no

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story reasons mostly

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 11:26 PM

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its like

dense plover Aug 10, 2018, 11:26 PM

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but also, way more alliance soldiers and resources

zealous basalt Aug 10, 2018, 11:26 PM

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alliance winning barrens

tropic trail Aug 10, 2018, 11:27 PM

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Not really.

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Barrens is kinda core territory of the horde

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Arathi is not core to the alliance of today

hollow dock Aug 10, 2018, 11:28 PM

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The alliance will get an invading party and several bases set up.

heavy cairn Aug 10, 2018, 11:28 PM

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horde would only have forces from the sea (zandalar, orgrimmar) and maybe blood elves from QT. however alliance controls lordaeron, blood elves can't get through.
meanwhile alliance has forces from sea as well (kul tiras) plus ironforge is nearby which has a tram to stormwind as well.

I can definitely agree it's improbably that horde will win, especially given alliance will have the upper hand in terms of reinforcements.