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dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 7:09 PM

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Vocal minority honk

terse patrol Aug 4, 2018, 7:09 PM

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There are still people who think that was actually Malfurion.

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 7:09 PM

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The loudest voices are often the fewest people

terse patrol Aug 4, 2018, 7:09 PM

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Anyways.

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Those two haven't been competent or compelling since WC3.

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I want -something- for them.

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 7:10 PM

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Anyway

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There is no s

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It’s redundant

terse patrol Aug 4, 2018, 7:10 PM

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Most players still think Tyrande just bubble hearthed away like a coward.

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 7:11 PM

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Nah

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She had no choice

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Saurfang would’ve killed malfurion

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 7:11 PM

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Didn't she go back to darn after?

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 7:11 PM

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No

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Stormwind

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That’s where she had been prior

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So her hearth was still set there

terse patrol Aug 4, 2018, 7:12 PM

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I thought she returned to Darnassus to oversee the evacuations in Elegy?

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 7:12 PM

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No

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I think she oversees it from the stormwind side of the portal

terse patrol Aug 4, 2018, 7:12 PM

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Mm.

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I still say we need a Nelf cinematic. I know a few people who feel like Teldrassil was done just to rekindle the fire in the heart of the Horde.

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And Nelf players are just left with a crater.

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 7:13 PM

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Honk

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Here me out on this

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Letting hatred simmer in the night elves is a good thing

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Night elves have been pansies for a while

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Hatred is a good way to send them back to their WC3 roots

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And

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If my hypothesis is correct

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We will see gilneas become a new night elf and worgen city zone with a new world tree that is starting to grow

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Since the worgen owe the nightelves for sharing darnassus

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 7:15 PM

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Tal'doren?

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Or a new one?

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 7:15 PM

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And it has all of that nature outside of the actual city

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Unsure

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Might be that old gnarly tree gets cleaned up

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 7:16 PM

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that's Tal'doren

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 7:16 PM

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Then yeah

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That could happen

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Gilneas sorely needs to be reclaimed, and doing it through a warfront that ends with it becoming a full city zone for worgen and night elves? Sounds great imo

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 7:17 PM

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I mean, Arathi as Warfront means that we will slowly push, Alliance

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 7:18 PM

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From what I’ve gathered about warfronts, after the barrens warfront is added, arathi warfront ends, with one faction keeping it

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Probably alliance

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In the barrens, that will likely be the horde

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Silverpine and gilneas will likely be the alliance again, as they slowly push out remaining horde south of quelthalas

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 7:19 PM

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Or they will be like "so yout hink this is horde bias?" and then have alliance win bobth

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both*

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 7:19 PM

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Nah

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Alliance can’t win barrens

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It’s too hard for them to get their army and resources there compared to horde

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It’s not a fair fight

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The main purpose there for the alliance is cut off land routes to silithus and limit azerite the horde gets while they are there

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That’s pretty much the case with silverpine if the horde loses arathi

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 7:20 PM

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lol at the one thinking that Sylv is mind controlled

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 8:28 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/415698385958338581/475399294489198613/kdswcgvh82e111.png

lime kiln Aug 4, 2018, 8:33 PM

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that deserves a khadgarface

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 8:44 PM

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https://i.redd.it/20rg9fz1k1e11.png zappyboi in a nutshell

calm plank Aug 4, 2018, 8:46 PM

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glorious

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 9:22 PM

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I CANT

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https://youtu.be/QQUpfgo7rFs

YouTube

Tigers_Ghost

some random zappy boi

from https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/94gvi5/some_random_troll_came_up_to_me_and_started/

▶ Play video

calm plank Aug 4, 2018, 9:24 PM

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/e throw pauldrons to the ground

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 9:24 PM

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oof

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Zappy boy vs tpaartos

tropic trail Aug 4, 2018, 9:40 PM

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Two part toes

calm plank Aug 4, 2018, 9:52 PM

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I must say I am heavily dissapointed with the lack of T'paartos in BfA

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and also the fact that in french he's called T'laartos or something

uncut vault Aug 4, 2018, 9:59 PM

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So, a quote from the novellas

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“The World Tree was more than a city. It was an entire land, home to countless innocents. How many night elves were elsewhere in Azeroth? Far too few. Now, they were all who remained of their people.”

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Night elves facing a similar, if not worse, near extinction like the high elves did

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:01 PM

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...But...are the really in a near extinction event?

uncut vault Aug 4, 2018, 10:02 PM

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I mean, they lost ashenvale, Darkshore and every person in Teldrassil, their three main zones

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:03 PM

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Oh lord

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Now that's sad

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How much do you think there are left, in numbers?

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 10:05 PM

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hundreds probably

verbal badger Aug 4, 2018, 10:05 PM

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nah....

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 10:05 PM

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maybe a few thousand

uncut vault Aug 4, 2018, 10:05 PM

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On a lot worse scale than how many high elves were left

verbal badger Aug 4, 2018, 10:05 PM

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you're forgetting the game downscales things a lot

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 10:05 PM

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^

uncut vault Aug 4, 2018, 10:05 PM

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Because the night elves don’t have other hubs like what Dalaran was

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:05 PM

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Nordrassil?

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hello?

uncut vault Aug 4, 2018, 10:06 PM

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Which we’ve never seen people live at

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Certainly been retconned since cata

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:07 PM

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Nordrassil is where most of the night elveslived untilthe third war. It became livable in again before cata and thent he whole attack on it happenedand with Ragnaros and the Hammer gone

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there's noreason to think they wouldn't ya know

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move back in?

uncut vault Aug 4, 2018, 10:07 PM

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I’m not saying they CANT live there

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They just didn’t in the last few years

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By hub in Dalaran, I meant a large piece of population away from the main one

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Hyjal didn’t have that for the night elves

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:08 PM

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by that logic the tornado we solved in Darkshore back in cataclysm is still there and thus that questline is retconned?

uncut vault Aug 4, 2018, 10:08 PM

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Canonically, Malfurion sealed off Hyjal post-third war while the tree recovered, so nobody lived there

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:08 PM

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Yes and then Cataclysm happened

uncut vault Aug 4, 2018, 10:09 PM

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Some people COULD live there now, but it isn’t a large hub

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:09 PM

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with the way opened once more

tulip sun Aug 4, 2018, 10:09 PM

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They are in a dite state

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Dire*

uncut vault Aug 4, 2018, 10:09 PM

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Which is the point I’m making with Dalaran

tulip sun Aug 4, 2018, 10:09 PM

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But there are pockets of then around

uncut vault Aug 4, 2018, 10:09 PM

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For the high elves

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:09 PM

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Dalaran didn't even exist by the time the high elves came around tho.

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for their whole extinction event

uncut vault Aug 4, 2018, 10:09 PM

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??

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:09 PM

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he is refering to # of people

uncut vault Aug 4, 2018, 10:09 PM

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Dalaran was three thousand years old when Arthas came

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:10 PM

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Dalaran was destroyed.

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Before the high elf conquering

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member?

uncut vault Aug 4, 2018, 10:10 PM

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You do know that the whole basis on wanting playable high elves is because there were high elves from Dalaran right

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They didn’t all die

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:10 PM

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yes like how not all of dalarans citizens were killed

uncut vault Aug 4, 2018, 10:11 PM

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Yes and that’s my point oh my lord

tulip sun Aug 4, 2018, 10:11 PM

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I feel like they are about as good as any other race near extinction; practically every race

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:11 PM

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You're stating that it's enough to be a hub

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but its not

uncut vault Aug 4, 2018, 10:11 PM

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Dalaran had a POPULATION of high elves significant enough to form a group like the silver covenant and populate the city after it was rebuilt

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As far as we know, the night elves don’t have such populations outside their lands

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:12 PM

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Which is formed from the remnants out of Quel'thalas AND the dalaran refugees tho

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not just dalaran refugees on its own

uncut vault Aug 4, 2018, 10:12 PM

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Putting them in a worse place than the high elves were post-Quel’thalas

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That’s my point

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:12 PM

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they'd be roughly in the same position

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:12 PM

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I mean, if the novel stated that there are few

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:12 PM

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just not spread out

tulip sun Aug 4, 2018, 10:12 PM

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They are no worse than darkspear or tauren. Who should technically be in low numbers too

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:12 PM

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I think they have come into few dangerous numbers

tulip sun Aug 4, 2018, 10:13 PM

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Like...a good bit of races have low numbers

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:13 PM

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humans should certainly be in lower numbers

tulip sun Aug 4, 2018, 10:13 PM

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The only one i can think of off the top of my head that is maybe safe is the dwarven clans

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:13 PM

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and by now, Bilgewater should have receeded into dumbness by now no? Wasn't it only kalajite that made em allsmart and junk?

tulip sun Aug 4, 2018, 10:14 PM

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Honestly i have no clue

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:14 PM

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cuz I remember that was the whole back end of the starting quests

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Kalajite was running out

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so goblins were becoming dumb

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gallywix was getting out before everything crashed down and then the cataclysm happened

tulip sun Aug 4, 2018, 10:16 PM

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Either it was retconned or have something else

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Perhaps the dormant azerite

uncut vault Aug 4, 2018, 10:20 PM

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Goblin intelligence declining was an RPG thing

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In WoW lore, it’s effects are permanent as far as we know

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:21 PM

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they put that into the game tho didn't they?

uncut vault Aug 4, 2018, 10:21 PM

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Until we reach Zandalar, Gallywix is out of Kajamite

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:21 PM

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Like I remember reading it in game

uncut vault Aug 4, 2018, 10:22 PM

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🤷

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:24 PM

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poor poor elves

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Is this night elf shitting ever going to end?

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Is Brozzard ever going to end their suffering?

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Is Ion going to say another meme soon?

uncut vault Aug 4, 2018, 10:27 PM

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Ion: high elves don’t have the numbers or the unified population to be playable!
Ion: kills off most night elves and puts their racial status at the same level as high elves

terse patrol Aug 4, 2018, 10:27 PM

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Nelf suffering will end when Ion has killed every last one.

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:27 PM

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Ion: Do you know what I mean now? High elves or Night elves?

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Imagine if the fate of that playable race would depend on a single popularity poll

terse patrol Aug 4, 2018, 10:28 PM

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I hope we get a nelf cinematic, but I doubt it.

uncut vault Aug 4, 2018, 10:28 PM

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Tyrande SHOULD be at Lordaeron

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She should be in a goddamn cinematic

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:29 PM

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Wtb remodel

uncut vault Aug 4, 2018, 10:29 PM

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Can’t have her messing up Anduin’s human potential though

tulip sun Aug 4, 2018, 10:29 PM

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Tyrande, in the Novella, points out she will return to Kalimdor to rally and fight with those still there

terse patrol Aug 4, 2018, 10:29 PM

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mfw a night elf tragedy is used soley to rekindle the honor of the Horde

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“isnt teldrassil so sad? heres a thing about saurfang.”

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:30 PM

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They want to break us all

uncut vault Aug 4, 2018, 10:30 PM

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What’s worse is

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:30 PM

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So we can guess

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That we wont' get Aszhara warbringer this week

uncut vault Aug 4, 2018, 10:30 PM

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They’re already making the tragedy on alliance side about the gilneans

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:30 PM

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wym

uncut vault Aug 4, 2018, 10:31 PM

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At Teldrassil it was Mia saving people

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It was Genn coming and mourning, while saving us

terse patrol Aug 4, 2018, 10:31 PM

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I legit think Ion and the Blizz staff hate night elves

uncut vault Aug 4, 2018, 10:31 PM

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It’s gilneans all on the island expeditions

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:31 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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it's been like that since cata

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kinda just used to it at this point

terse patrol Aug 4, 2018, 10:31 PM

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MrPeach defends this for some reason

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idk

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Look, I love the Saurfang cinematic but

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:32 PM

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Usually in other novels

uncut vault Aug 4, 2018, 10:32 PM

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I hope night elves don’t join gnomes as a forgotten near extinct race that occasionally does stuff for humans

terse patrol Aug 4, 2018, 10:32 PM

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I want something for the ones who this REALLY matters to

tulip sun Aug 4, 2018, 10:32 PM

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Wait

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:32 PM

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When characters suffers

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It's because they get something later

tulip sun Aug 4, 2018, 10:32 PM

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There is at least one night elf in the island expedition

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:32 PM

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it would be nice if Gilneas becomes repopulated

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But i don't know

terse patrol Aug 4, 2018, 10:33 PM

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also mfw the nelf character from pandaria was basically deleted and he’s now turalyon

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Literally the same voice

tulip sun Aug 4, 2018, 10:33 PM

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From Pandaria?

uncut vault Aug 4, 2018, 10:33 PM

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You know that they’re gonna repopulate gilneas and shove night elves in their woods

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Forget about them for a while

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:34 PM

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Rell?

terse patrol Aug 4, 2018, 10:34 PM

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https://wow.gamepedia.com/Rell_Nightwind

Wowpedia

Rell Nightwind

Rell Nightwind is an SI:7 operative who commands the team assigned to track down the whereabouts of the White Pawn. He dual-wields a pair of daggers.
He owns a gyrocopter.

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:34 PM

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Ye

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everyone from pandaria just

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don't exist

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Amber is ded

terse patrol Aug 4, 2018, 10:34 PM

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Horde complains about losing

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What

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Two warchiefs?

tulip sun Aug 4, 2018, 10:34 PM

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I wouldnt say he doesnt exist

terse patrol Aug 4, 2018, 10:34 PM

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The Alliance uses characters CONSTANTLY

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LOSES*

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:34 PM

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He doesn'tkham

tulip sun Aug 4, 2018, 10:35 PM

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Blizz has been surprisingly remember...ful this expansion

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I am sure he will reappear someday

terse patrol Aug 4, 2018, 10:35 PM

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They will never use him

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:35 PM

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Characters that we loe tbh

terse patrol Aug 4, 2018, 10:35 PM

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He has the same voice as Turalyon.

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They introduced Delaryn just for Sylvanas to cruelly kill her.

tulip sun Aug 4, 2018, 10:36 PM

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Same VA? Huh...

terse patrol Aug 4, 2018, 10:36 PM

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Admiral Taylor, Amber Kearnen, Maraad

tulip sun Aug 4, 2018, 10:36 PM

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I am sure VAs do several characters

terse patrol Aug 4, 2018, 10:36 PM

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Dude

uncut vault Aug 4, 2018, 10:36 PM

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His VA does a lot of stuff

terse patrol Aug 4, 2018, 10:36 PM

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Its not just that, its the exact same voice

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EXACT SAME VOICE

tulip sun Aug 4, 2018, 10:36 PM

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And Horde has lost a good bit of characters as well

uncut vault Aug 4, 2018, 10:36 PM

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blizz has a collection for a few of their games of good voice actors

terse patrol Aug 4, 2018, 10:36 PM

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buullllshit

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The Horde really only loses warchiefs.

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:37 PM

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...Good bit of characters

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good

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:37 PM

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Horde lost what

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a warchief that did nothing

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and a warchief that literallyj ustleft the horde

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Thrallsback

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:37 PM

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The only dude I only cared was the troll from the beggining

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:37 PM

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and Cairne died years ago

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:37 PM

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I don't want to say it

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:37 PM

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Horde's honestly not lost anyone

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:37 PM

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but clearly

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🅱

terse patrol Aug 4, 2018, 10:38 PM

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The Alliance loses characters we like constantly, and usually for shit reasons

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See: basically the whole Pandaria Alliance cast

tulip sun Aug 4, 2018, 10:38 PM

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I find that hilarious, but will not continue since i am solely speaking to alliance characters

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:38 PM

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You can't continue because you havent lost

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Anything important

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:39 PM

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OK so kham

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who did horde lose

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other than who I listed

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please

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inform me

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:39 PM

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Go ahead

tropic trail Aug 4, 2018, 10:39 PM

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Cairne as death knight

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:39 PM

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@tulip sun

terse patrol Aug 4, 2018, 10:39 PM

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The Alliance exists soley for the Horde to antagonize, then they exist soley to help the Horde become good again. Then the Horde goes bad again, now they’ll get help from Anduin going good again.

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:39 PM

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Since clearly we're so very biased against the horde

terse patrol Aug 4, 2018, 10:39 PM

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That’s all the Alliance exists for: to push Horde plot

tulip sun Aug 4, 2018, 10:39 PM

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First off....how is losing warchiefs not bad?

terse patrol Aug 4, 2018, 10:40 PM

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Am I right or wrong?

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:40 PM

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Because

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You get the next warchief like

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In 2 secs

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:40 PM

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we didn't say that

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at all

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We did not once

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say

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losing a warchief

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isn't bad

tulip sun Aug 4, 2018, 10:40 PM

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No shit we get the next warchief ,lol

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:40 PM

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Like

tulip sun Aug 4, 2018, 10:40 PM

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This conversation is pitiful

terse patrol Aug 4, 2018, 10:40 PM

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We’re saying the Alliance loses more characters in general than the Horde

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:40 PM

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This is why I honestly believe you DO NOT read what we actually type

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and just use what you feel we mean

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:41 PM

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And he is leaving

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Because he got no counterarguments

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:41 PM

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@tulip sun I asked you who did the horde lose in comparison to the alliance?

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Other than the characters i listed

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:42 PM

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...none of their deaths are compared to varian

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:42 PM

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The three I listed are, btw, Garrosh, Carine, and Vol'jin.

tropic trail Aug 4, 2018, 10:42 PM

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Don't forget Thrall's Balls.

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:42 PM

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in which you guys are getting back

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Vol'jin

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btw

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just saying

tulip sun Aug 4, 2018, 10:43 PM

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Eh, i suppose we would technically be getting him back.

tropic trail Aug 4, 2018, 10:43 PM

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Not like Vol'jin is gonna be warchief again

tulip sun Aug 4, 2018, 10:43 PM

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We know he is at the very least a strong spirit

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If not a loa

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:43 PM

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Not like Thrall's going to be warchief either

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but he's back in your guyses fold

tropic trail Aug 4, 2018, 10:43 PM

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Not like Sylvanas will be replaced at the end of this expac

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:43 PM

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I'm tempted to

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:43 PM

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So again I ask the question for a third time Kham

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:43 PM

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Ping peach to turn this into a spicy discussion

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:43 PM

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who did hte horde lose

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by comparison

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to the alliance

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:44 PM

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He is Horde, right?

tropic trail Aug 4, 2018, 10:44 PM

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Saurfang's son

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:44 PM

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because in all honesty, the alliance's losses is a much longer list

tropic trail Aug 4, 2018, 10:44 PM

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;p

terse patrol Aug 4, 2018, 10:44 PM

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Alliance lost Bolvar.

tropic trail Aug 4, 2018, 10:44 PM

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We also lost Tirion, don't forget that

tulip sun Aug 4, 2018, 10:44 PM

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I do not want to honeatly continue that topic, because it will go nowhere even when i list them

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:44 PM

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I asked three times

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you refuse to provide answers

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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guess I'll go to peach then

tulip sun Aug 4, 2018, 10:44 PM

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Because i know how most of our discussions go

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:44 PM

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@dense plover

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Yo

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Wake up

tulip sun Aug 4, 2018, 10:45 PM

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I would rather not go in those circles, am busy

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:45 PM

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@dense plover who did the horde lose in terms of a list? I know Carine, Garrosh. Not counting Vol'jin sine he's coming back as a spirit/loa

meager warren Aug 4, 2018, 10:45 PM

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Dranosh Saurfang

uncut vault Aug 4, 2018, 10:45 PM

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I still laugh at looking back at blizz post-the shattering

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:45 PM

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alright so that's three

uncut vault Aug 4, 2018, 10:46 PM

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saying "cairnes story isnt over"

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 10:46 PM

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people?

uncut vault Aug 4, 2018, 10:46 PM

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turns out magni was the one with an unfinished story

meager warren Aug 4, 2018, 10:46 PM

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Can't think of others

tulip sun Aug 4, 2018, 10:46 PM

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Did they say that???

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:46 PM

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yes. Lore peeps that've either done something

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or

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affected the horde

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like the alliance characters we've lost

tulip sun Aug 4, 2018, 10:46 PM

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Lol, i never knew they said that about cairne

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 10:46 PM

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cairne, garrosh, most of the orcs from draenor

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:46 PM

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In a sentimental way

uncut vault Aug 4, 2018, 10:46 PM

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Nazgrim was pretty big Id say

terse patrol Aug 4, 2018, 10:46 PM

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Named characters @dense plover

uncut vault Aug 4, 2018, 10:46 PM

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questing with him since wrath

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 10:46 PM

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most of the orc leaders from draenor

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:46 PM

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We lose taylor

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In a stupid way

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 10:46 PM

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maybe half of them were good guys

terse patrol Aug 4, 2018, 10:47 PM

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That’s pre WoW.

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:47 PM

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Alright so Cairne, Garrosh, Dranosh, Nazgrim.

tulip sun Aug 4, 2018, 10:47 PM

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Durotan especially

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:47 PM

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Grom, Durotan?

meager warren Aug 4, 2018, 10:47 PM

#

Sylvanas in every way but death

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:47 PM

#

Blackhand and those?

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:47 PM

#

Grom, Durotan, Cairne, Garrosh, Dranosh, Nazgrim

tropic trail Aug 4, 2018, 10:47 PM

#

Blackhand is meh

tulip sun Aug 4, 2018, 10:47 PM

#

Not blackhand

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:47 PM

#

Ogrim

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:47 PM

#

since Kham wants to compare losses of the horde's heroes

#

to the alliance

#

that's what sparked this whole thing

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:47 PM

#

Well

terse patrol Aug 4, 2018, 10:47 PM

#

We’re only counting WoW deaths.

tulip sun Aug 4, 2018, 10:47 PM

#

I didnt say compare them, but you guys acted as if we never do and you guys always do

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:47 PM

#

It's not like their death affected players

#

Brcause we never quested with them

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:48 PM

#

mostly because peach constnatly comes in here and preaches that the hordes lost so much

#

same with you Kham

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:48 PM

#

Unlike...idk

tropic trail Aug 4, 2018, 10:48 PM

#

What about Zuni?

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:48 PM

#

Taylor

tropic trail Aug 4, 2018, 10:48 PM

#

murloc

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:48 PM

#

Zuni might be the only one

#

Rip original zappy boy

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 10:48 PM

#

honestly im not good with character names

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:48 PM

#

at least you're honest.

meager warren Aug 4, 2018, 10:48 PM

#

"I'll get the fires dis time"

tropic trail Aug 4, 2018, 10:49 PM

#

"ZUNI, NO!"

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:49 PM

#

but yea.

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:49 PM

#

Then Voljin

terse patrol Aug 4, 2018, 10:49 PM

#

Issue is, the Alliance loses named characters constantly. Every expansion.

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:49 PM

#

By comparison, the alliance certainly seems to lose a lot.

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:49 PM

#

"Heal da boy"

tropic trail Aug 4, 2018, 10:49 PM

#

What about Garrosh?

#

;^)

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:49 PM

#

A lot more than the horde has all together.

#

I already counted him

meager warren Aug 4, 2018, 10:49 PM

#

Alliance lost Varian

tropic trail Aug 4, 2018, 10:49 PM

#

Ree

#

Sorry

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:49 PM

#

Varian was the most

#

Weighful dead

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:50 PM

#

Taylor too.

#

Got to see him fall as a captain

#

rise to admiral

tropic trail Aug 4, 2018, 10:50 PM

#

Did you count Rhonin?

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:50 PM

#

Yes

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:50 PM

#

only to die as a general

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:50 PM

#

But we never

#

saw how he die

terse patrol Aug 4, 2018, 10:50 PM

#

Amber. Rell got deleted in favor of Turalyon, who will probably die too.

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:50 PM

#

And I was really pissed

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:50 PM

#

We know how he died

#

we just dont see

#

it

#

Necromancer ends up ending his liafu

terse patrol Aug 4, 2018, 10:50 PM

#

Magni got turned into a neutral.

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:50 PM

#

with a motherfuckin knaifu

terse patrol Aug 4, 2018, 10:50 PM

#

Khadgar got turned into a neutral.

tropic trail Aug 4, 2018, 10:51 PM

#

So did Modera

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:51 PM

#

OH

#

Well

meager warren Aug 4, 2018, 10:51 PM

#

Vris, pls

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:51 PM

#

If we are going that deep

#

Anduin Lothar

#

The King Liane

terse patrol Aug 4, 2018, 10:51 PM

#

Thats WC2 dude

#

WoW only.

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:51 PM

#

yea just to be fair

tropic trail Aug 4, 2018, 10:51 PM

#

Hm

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:51 PM

#

Dey want to go far

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:51 PM

#

we are counting WoW only

meager warren Aug 4, 2018, 10:51 PM

#

WC2 counts

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:52 PM

#

Ah

tropic trail Aug 4, 2018, 10:52 PM

#

Should we count Velen?

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:52 PM

#

in this comparison list we are only comparing losses on both sides during the MMO's life

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:52 PM

#

Ah Velen

#

The WoD velen

#

Yrel

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:52 PM

#

yrel isnt lost yet

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:52 PM

#

But she is nuts

tropic trail Aug 4, 2018, 10:52 PM

#

She's just bat shit insane

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:52 PM

#

no

#

she isnt

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:52 PM

#

Or that's what people say

#

But

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:52 PM

#

want the real story mak?

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:52 PM

#

Thanks to Horde

#

We dont get them

terse patrol Aug 4, 2018, 10:53 PM

#

Most named characters in Ashenvale, Darkshore, and Teldrassil. They may not have been major characters but.

#

They’re gone.

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:53 PM

#

I know that she isnt evil

terse patrol Aug 4, 2018, 10:53 PM

#

Slaughtered by the Horde

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:53 PM

#

She wants people to follow the light

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:53 PM

#

She's not Lilo

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:53 PM

#

I saw it

#

But

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:53 PM

#

She isn't exterminating the orcs

#

in fact

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:53 PM

#

The orcs are the ones that are doing it

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:53 PM

#

that's what the Fel Orc standins

#

the lightbound

#

are doing

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:53 PM

#

Ye

#

But still Vris

#

We dont get anything from the WoD campaign

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:53 PM

#

If you do remember to our Outland's timeline, when the fel orcs were unleashed they did the same thing

terse patrol Aug 4, 2018, 10:54 PM

#

yep

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:54 PM

#

Like

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:54 PM

#

we have auchindoun ballista

#

and

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:54 PM

#

It was pure loss for us

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:54 PM

#

it's clear that some draenei

#

do come over

#

like the rangari

terse patrol Aug 4, 2018, 10:54 PM

#

The Alliance lost Maraad and Taylor in Warlords of Draenor. The Horde lost only alt universe characters.

tropic trail Aug 4, 2018, 10:54 PM

#

You so

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:54 PM

#

BUT ALLIANCE

terse patrol Aug 4, 2018, 10:54 PM

#

Then they get the Mag’har.

tropic trail Aug 4, 2018, 10:54 PM

#

Fucking

#

Special

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:54 PM

#

REMAINS STRONG

tropic trail Aug 4, 2018, 10:54 PM

#

When you

#

Smile

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:54 PM

#

I thought it was precious

terse patrol Aug 4, 2018, 10:55 PM

#

The Alliance gets nothing from Warlords of Draenor.

#

When we lost the most in that expac

tropic trail Aug 4, 2018, 10:55 PM

#

We get something

#

We get a ring to rule them all

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:56 PM

#

whispers

tropic trail Aug 4, 2018, 10:56 PM

#

Was that a reference to a certain video?

terse patrol Aug 4, 2018, 10:56 PM

#

Quit shitposting please

tropic trail Aug 4, 2018, 10:56 PM

#

Makore..

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:56 PM

#

sweats

#

LOOK

#

A word

tropic trail Aug 4, 2018, 10:56 PM

#

You filthy dog.

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:57 PM

#

🅱

#

Although

#

I think this horde bias is the best for the game

#

If it was alliance bias

tropic trail Aug 4, 2018, 10:57 PM

#

Name every character who got shafted harder than Taylor

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:57 PM

#

It would be bored just focusing on our races

terse patrol Aug 4, 2018, 10:57 PM

#

taylor

#

literally killed by fucking scourge on an alt universe

tropic trail Aug 4, 2018, 10:58 PM

#

Wait

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:58 PM

#

Again honk

#

we do gain the

tropic trail Aug 4, 2018, 10:58 PM

#

Who was the architect for the Garrisons?

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:58 PM

#

Rangari Corp

#

Baros

tropic trail Aug 4, 2018, 10:58 PM

#

We lost him

#

Boom

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:58 PM

#

NO

terse patrol Aug 4, 2018, 10:58 PM

#

we dont “gain” them

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:58 PM

#

DONT REMIND ME OF THAT

terse patrol Aug 4, 2018, 10:58 PM

#

@hollow dock

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:58 PM

#

BAROS

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:58 PM

#

they are fighting with us over in Battle for Azeroth

#

so yea

#

I'd say we gain them

terse patrol Aug 4, 2018, 10:58 PM

#

They just added them as a preexisting branch of the Exodars army

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:59 PM

#

cries

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:59 PM

#

the rangari weren't around during their time on Azeroth

tropic trail Aug 4, 2018, 10:59 PM

#

But we could've also got the Rangari from normal Outland

#

Our Outland

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 10:59 PM

#

Baros...you were so innocent

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:59 PM

#

we didn't Lilo

tropic trail Aug 4, 2018, 10:59 PM

#

Anything that states this?

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:59 PM

#

it's the exact Exarch from WoD

tropic trail Aug 4, 2018, 10:59 PM

#

Proof or it didn't happen

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 10:59 PM

#

We even have Auchindoun Ballista

#

from WoD

#

in the Siege of Lordaeron

terse patrol Aug 4, 2018, 11:00 PM

#

The implication is that the main universe Draenei still have a branch of the Rangari

#

Theres no proof they’re from Alt Draenor.

#

If they were, they’d be Lightforged.

#

@hollow dock

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 11:01 PM

#

uh

#

no?

#

You do realize we had draenei

#

with us

#

right

woeful sorrel Aug 4, 2018, 11:01 PM

#

HI eVERYone

tropic trail Aug 4, 2018, 11:01 PM

#

Scrolls up

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 11:01 PM

#

not lightforged?

#

Like

woeful sorrel Aug 4, 2018, 11:01 PM

#

may i ask something please ?

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 11:01 PM

#

You do realize they could have come with us

#

back then

tropic trail Aug 4, 2018, 11:01 PM

#

Ask away

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 11:02 PM

#

@uncut vault @dense plover Didn't you guys find the Rangari exarch in the alliance as a way to recruit rangari?

woeful sorrel Aug 4, 2018, 11:02 PM

#

Honestly , i played legion and didnt enjoy it atall , i was wondering does bfa worth it to get some money and buy the new expansion ?

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 11:02 PM

#

cuz she wasn't alive, none of the council of exarchs are, from our timeline

#

Dont getit

#

if you didn't like legion

#

don't get it

woeful sorrel Aug 4, 2018, 11:02 PM

#

why is that so ?

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 11:02 PM

#

it's legion with some improvements

tropic trail Aug 4, 2018, 11:02 PM

#

And less green

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 11:02 PM

#

So if the classes and gameplay were not appealing

#

don't bother. they're the same roughly

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 11:03 PM

#

Minus hunter

woeful sorrel Aug 4, 2018, 11:03 PM

#

i didnt enjoy it because of the legendary system , and ppl are saying , they removed the legendary system

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 11:03 PM

#

they didn't

#

they jus tmade the legendaries targetable

woeful sorrel Aug 4, 2018, 11:03 PM

#

what does that mean ?

#

i cant follow the bfa updates

tulip sun Aug 4, 2018, 11:03 PM

#

Wait

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 11:03 PM

#

you can farm specific bosses

#

for the legendaries

woeful sorrel Aug 4, 2018, 11:03 PM

#

how is the new legendary system ?

tulip sun Aug 4, 2018, 11:03 PM

#

We found out who recruits generic soldiers?

woeful sorrel Aug 4, 2018, 11:03 PM

#

oh

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 11:03 PM

#

Are leggos in bfa?

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 11:03 PM

#

they drop like normal pieces of gear

tropic trail Aug 4, 2018, 11:03 PM

#

Pretty sure there isn't leggos in Bfa

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 11:03 PM

#

off of

woeful sorrel Aug 4, 2018, 11:03 PM

#

so you can aim for your legendary ?

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 11:03 PM

#

yes

#

they're azerite gear

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 11:03 PM

#

...

#

GFDI VRIS

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 11:03 PM

#

it's legendaries 2.0

tropic trail Aug 4, 2018, 11:04 PM

#

That's still not legendaries

woeful sorrel Aug 4, 2018, 11:04 PM

#

discusting

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 11:04 PM

#

Yes it is

tropic trail Aug 4, 2018, 11:04 PM

#

It's more like the netherlight crucible.

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 11:04 PM

#

they are piece of gear that make or break your spec

woeful sorrel Aug 4, 2018, 11:04 PM

#

yea

#

true

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 11:04 PM

#

they are very much

#

the legendary system improved

#

cosnidering they can give you legendary effects from BFA

#

considering*

woeful sorrel Aug 4, 2018, 11:04 PM

#

someone said that the new legendary system will be like 3.3.5 , questing one's

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 11:04 PM

#

Legion

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 11:04 PM

#

er from legion

#

It might

#

it might not

#

we dont know

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 11:05 PM

#

We dont have

#

A true legendary

#

Azerite gear

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 11:05 PM

#

but Azerite gear just replaces the legendary system in Legion

woeful sorrel Aug 4, 2018, 11:05 PM

#

we had

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 11:05 PM

#

you can farm specific bosses

#

that's the only change

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 11:05 PM

#

Is your normal gear

#

Like

#

It comes from questing

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 11:05 PM

#

its not your normal gear

#

it empowers your spec

#

and class

#

it makes or breaks it

woeful sorrel Aug 4, 2018, 11:05 PM

#

its like artifact kinda

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 11:05 PM

#

it's the leggendary systm 2.0-

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 11:05 PM

#

In terms of acquisition

#

Vris

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 11:05 PM

#

@hollow dock azerite is normal gear

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 11:05 PM

#

Acquisition has been labeled out

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 11:05 PM

#

it fully replaces gear for those slots

#

you can not get regular gear for those slots

#

only azerite

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 11:06 PM

#

Yes like a legendary did

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 11:06 PM

#

no

uncut vault Aug 4, 2018, 11:06 PM

#

pretty sure azerite is a replacement for tier, not legendaries

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 11:06 PM

#

I think

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 11:06 PM

#

you can get regular gear for a leggo slot

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 11:06 PM

#

Vris has wrong adjectives here

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 11:06 PM

#

azerite gear is the ONLY gear that drops for those slots

tropic trail Aug 4, 2018, 11:06 PM

#

I agree with Porter

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 11:06 PM

#

You'd never replace your BIS legendary

#

so that slot

tropic trail Aug 4, 2018, 11:06 PM

#

Pretty sure they're tier replacements

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 11:06 PM

#

there is no normal gear for those slots

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 11:06 PM

#

is gone. taken up. forever

woeful sorrel Aug 4, 2018, 11:06 PM

#

yea @uncut vault True

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 11:07 PM

#

no

#

vris

uncut vault Aug 4, 2018, 11:07 PM

#

its a customizable system on multiple pieces of gear that can synergize, sounds more like a mix of tier and artifacts

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 11:07 PM

#

the gear doesnt even drop

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 11:07 PM

#

Yes.that's literally what happened with Unholy

#

if you got your shoulders

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 11:07 PM

#

You are confusing the boy vris

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 11:07 PM

#

azerite gear is the only type of shoulder gear you can find

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 11:07 PM

#

no other gear would replace it

woeful sorrel Aug 4, 2018, 11:07 PM

#

guys

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 11:07 PM

#

Wolf

woeful sorrel Aug 4, 2018, 11:07 PM

#

im realy confused 😄

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 11:07 PM

#

that slot is effectively used up

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 11:07 PM

#

Were you refering

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 11:07 PM

#

no

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 11:07 PM

#

To

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 11:07 PM

#

yes

#

it was

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 11:07 PM

#

Adquisition?

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 11:07 PM

#

its not effectively used up

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 11:07 PM

#

yes

#

it is

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 11:07 PM

#

VRIS FOR ONCE

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 11:07 PM

#

vris

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 11:07 PM

#

there's no better legendary

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 11:07 PM

#

SHUT IT

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 11:07 PM

#

So yes

#

that slot

#

is

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 11:07 PM

#

normal shoulders literrally dont exist

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 11:07 PM

#

used

#

up

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 11:07 PM

#

Let the boy ask

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 11:07 PM

#

Do you not understand

#

how BIS works

meager warren Aug 4, 2018, 11:07 PM

#

Both of you shut it

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 11:08 PM

#

its not bis

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 11:08 PM

#

No, you dont understand

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 11:08 PM

#

Yes it is

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 11:08 PM

#

Let the boy ask

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 11:08 PM

#

The legendary shoulders before prepatch was BIS

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 11:08 PM

#

....Vris

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 11:08 PM

#

that's how unholy worked

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 11:08 PM

#

Vris

#

Silence

woeful sorrel Aug 4, 2018, 11:08 PM

#

@zealous basalt are you aware of my question sir ?

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 11:08 PM

#

You silence

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 11:08 PM

#

I am trying to get

#

What you are asking

#

Let me ask you

tropic trail Aug 4, 2018, 11:08 PM

#

Wolf asked for an answer, not a fucking monologue

woeful sorrel Aug 4, 2018, 11:08 PM

#

ask away

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 11:08 PM

#

Legendary how, random acquisition?

#

Or effects?

woeful sorrel Aug 4, 2018, 11:08 PM

#

no

#

i want legendary like

#

shadowmourne

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 11:09 PM

#

Ahh

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 11:09 PM

#

As I already answered

#

we dont know

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 11:09 PM

#

those are gone

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 11:09 PM

#

No, there is not such a thing in bfa

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 11:09 PM

#

We don't know if it'll be another quest

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 11:09 PM

#

there is no evidence of leggos like that in bfa

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 11:09 PM

#

or an expansionlong quest

#

we just simply dont know

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 11:09 PM

#

And there isn't evidence of random legendaries

woeful sorrel Aug 4, 2018, 11:09 PM

#

But my original question was something else @zealous basalt

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 11:09 PM

#

there are no random legendaries, and no epic legendaries so far in bfa

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 11:09 PM

#

Azerite is just another part of gear that you get in your normal flow

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 11:10 PM

#

^

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 11:10 PM

#

Can you ask again, please?

woeful sorrel Aug 4, 2018, 11:10 PM

#

Sure

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 11:10 PM

#

This time be specific

#

Please

woeful sorrel Aug 4, 2018, 11:11 PM

#

@zealous basalt Truth to be told , i live in a Semi-Poor COuntry and i have to work like 2 months to get the money to buy the BFA , i was wondering does BFA Worth it to work for it and rip my time for it ?

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 11:11 PM

#

Hmm, for all what I have played so far

#

And it's like the 30% of it

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 11:11 PM

#

As I did say, BFA is more of what Legion had with some improvements. If you didn't like Legion, there's a high chance you won't like BFA.

tropic trail Aug 4, 2018, 11:11 PM

#

Personally, I'd wait for reviews Wolf

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 11:11 PM

#

I'd say it is better than Legion

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 11:12 PM

#

@hollow dock is correct here. It takes the best parts of legion and improves them

woeful sorrel Aug 4, 2018, 11:12 PM

#

oh

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 11:12 PM

#

If you didnt like how Legendaries in legion worked

#

Dont worry

tropic trail Aug 4, 2018, 11:12 PM

#

But it doesn't take absolutely everything from Legion

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 11:12 PM

#

Because they disappeared

#

I have a more specific question for you

#

What parts of Legion you didnt like?

tulip sun Aug 4, 2018, 11:12 PM

#

So, did people actually find nPCs who we get these racial troops from?

woeful sorrel Aug 4, 2018, 11:13 PM

#

the legendaries part ,

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 11:13 PM

#

Early on we saw the Rangari Exarch

#

you were freaking out about her Kham

woeful sorrel Aug 4, 2018, 11:13 PM

#

and the gearing system

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 11:13 PM

#

Legendaries gone

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 11:13 PM

#

legendaries are gone

woeful sorrel Aug 4, 2018, 11:13 PM

#

i dont like to get gears so easily

#

with upgrade chance

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 11:13 PM

#

that parts still in

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 11:13 PM

#

titanforge and warforge chance is way lower

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 11:13 PM

#

...this m8 has a godly luck

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 11:13 PM

#

azerite gear cant even warforge

woeful sorrel Aug 4, 2018, 11:13 PM

#

like the raid which have to give you 940 , gives you 985

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 11:13 PM

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and weapons cant titanforge, only warforge

tulip sun Aug 4, 2018, 11:13 PM

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We datamined generic troops

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 11:14 PM

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Ye wolf

tulip sun Aug 4, 2018, 11:14 PM

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Not an actual npc i thought

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 11:14 PM

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That part is gone

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 11:14 PM

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the best azerite gear comes from the best content - no warforging anything

woeful sorrel Aug 4, 2018, 11:14 PM

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cool

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 11:14 PM

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As peach said

hollow dock Aug 4, 2018, 11:14 PM

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No people screenshotted it

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you brought it up even Kham

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 11:14 PM

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Weapons only warforge

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 11:14 PM

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weapons can only warforge, so no more than +10 ilvls

woeful sorrel Aug 4, 2018, 11:14 PM

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cool

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 11:14 PM

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and the chance for titanforging in bfa is much lower

woeful sorrel Aug 4, 2018, 11:14 PM

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i can deal with that part

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 11:14 PM

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Ye

woeful sorrel Aug 4, 2018, 11:14 PM

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weapons are needed but not every part

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 11:14 PM

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Anything else tou didnt like?

woeful sorrel Aug 4, 2018, 11:15 PM

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Hmm no , but truth to be told , i rip my ass because of that flying path in broken isles 😄

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 11:15 PM

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Heh

woeful sorrel Aug 4, 2018, 11:15 PM

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the suramar part .....
eww

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 11:15 PM

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Finally someone that understands me

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 11:15 PM

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well, war campaign replaces that

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sort of

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rep grinds are done through world quests now

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 11:16 PM

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Peach says it's not that horrible

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 11:16 PM

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its not

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its passive really

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its not the type of thing where you focus on it

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it just happens over time

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youll have it finished within a month of regular play

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 11:16 PM

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I'd say

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That you are going to enjoy it

woeful sorrel Aug 4, 2018, 11:16 PM

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I realy

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want to have this

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BFA

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But,,,,,,,

agile token Aug 4, 2018, 11:17 PM

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?

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 11:17 PM

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Doubts eh?

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 11:17 PM

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if you dont have the funds, wait

woeful sorrel Aug 4, 2018, 11:17 PM

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no

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not doubts

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you helped me with that problem

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 11:17 PM

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Glad to help

woeful sorrel Aug 4, 2018, 11:17 PM

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yea mr peach

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my problem is about funds

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 11:17 PM

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if you dont have the money, wait. catchup is better than in legion

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by a lot

woeful sorrel Aug 4, 2018, 11:18 PM

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coz i live in a semi-poor country and take long for me to get the money for bfa

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@zealous basalt thats nice of you

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 11:18 PM

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yeah i would wait then

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survival is higher priority

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its just a game

woeful sorrel Aug 4, 2018, 11:18 PM

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yea

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 11:18 PM

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Thank peach here too

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He is the beta expert along @uncut vault

woeful sorrel Aug 4, 2018, 11:18 PM

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its just a game , but i live in this game

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 11:18 PM

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wanna know something funny?

woeful sorrel Aug 4, 2018, 11:18 PM

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hahaha

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Go ahead , tell me

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 11:19 PM

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i guarantee people will complain at launch about warforging, even though the percentage chance is like 0.5% or something

woeful sorrel Aug 4, 2018, 11:19 PM

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wow

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0.5 ?

calm plank Aug 4, 2018, 11:19 PM

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people will always find a way to complain

woeful sorrel Aug 4, 2018, 11:19 PM

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@zealous basalt Which region do you play ?

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 11:20 PM

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Us

heavy cairn Aug 4, 2018, 11:20 PM

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Yea, people will complain. Reducing the chance just makes the people who will inevitably get a max titanforge piece from casual content even more disliked.

woeful sorrel Aug 4, 2018, 11:20 PM

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oh damn , i found you a good guy and i realy wish you would play on eu

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 11:21 PM

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its the fact that peiople dont like having someone who is 'less skilled' getting better content

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its elitism

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 11:22 PM

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It's just good rng

dense plover Aug 4, 2018, 11:22 PM

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and if you are a good player, it shouldnt matter

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because you will have better gear overall

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while they might have 1 good piece that created a fun moment for them

heavy cairn Aug 4, 2018, 11:23 PM

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Ye, it's silly to complain

zealous basalt Aug 4, 2018, 11:23 PM

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This fucking scene again

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skips valsharah ending

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Piss off feelings

calm plank Aug 4, 2018, 11:26 PM

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feels

woeful sorrel Aug 4, 2018, 11:45 PM

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yo

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Anyone out there ?

meager warren Aug 4, 2018, 11:59 PM

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No

uncut vault Aug 5, 2018, 12:05 AM

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I just had an, ah, interesting conversation about the night elves

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according to this dude, most night elves dont live in ashenvale, darkshore, or teldrassil, because the # of outposts they have in other lands is greater

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and only a thousand people died at teldrassil

woeful sorrel Aug 5, 2018, 12:07 AM

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@uncut vault

zealous basalt Aug 5, 2018, 12:11 AM

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only a thousand

uncut vault Aug 5, 2018, 12:12 AM

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thats the number in game, so clearly those are the only people who lived in the tree

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not like tyrande was mourning countless innocents of anything

zealous basalt Aug 5, 2018, 12:13 AM

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oof

woeful sorrel Aug 5, 2018, 12:18 AM

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@dense plover

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you there ?

dense plover Aug 5, 2018, 12:25 AM

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what?

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you need something?

woeful sorrel Aug 5, 2018, 12:28 AM

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@dense plover can you send me a message?

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private message i mean

dense plover Aug 5, 2018, 12:29 AM

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you have to accept my friend request

jovial coral Aug 5, 2018, 12:49 AM

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They want icy shaman tanks

mint arch Aug 5, 2018, 1:41 AM

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@uncut vault nah port, the ALLIANCE was at fault in teldrassil for not immediately evacuating ALL civilians

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or whats the other excuse i see fanbois giving out

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this is war and therefore the genocide is not a genocide, but are just casualties of war i.e. acceptable loss - the EDGY kids

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sylvanas only burned down a city ppl, it toootally was not a world tree with civilians, animals, plants, ancients, so on living on it... also not to mention its significance as a world tree, what it was doing in regards to the old gods, so on

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but nah, was just a city ppl, just stones and some wood~

tulip sun Aug 5, 2018, 1:53 AM

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I...feel like your being sarcastic, lol

mint arch Aug 5, 2018, 1:54 AM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/94ibve/i_have_to_say_something_war_of_thorns_horde_lore/

r/wow - I have to say something. [War of Thorns Horde lore guide]

835 votes and 496 comments so far on Reddit

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enjoy~

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a good reply to the delusional OP fanboi

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https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/94ibve/i_have_to_say_something_war_of_thorns_horde_lore/e3lg072/

r/wow - I have to say something. [War of Thorns Horde lore guide]

840 votes and 503 comments so far on Reddit

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https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/94ibve/i_have_to_say_something_war_of_thorns_horde_lore/e3lbi05/

r/wow - I have to say something. [War of Thorns Horde lore guide]

844 votes and 503 comments so far on Reddit

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@tulip sun ya xD i was summarising some of the more ridiculous defenses ive been reading over in reddit and forums

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and then comes this thread on reddit -_-

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also

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https://i.redd.it/htvxl7hos4e11.jpg

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xD

untold fractal Aug 5, 2018, 2:17 AM

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quality memes

uncut vault Aug 5, 2018, 2:21 AM

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apparently scaling below 110 made it live

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heroic geared warrior guildie is having trouble against level 70 DKs

steel venture Aug 5, 2018, 3:00 AM

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well.

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thats actually not a bad thing?

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it makes ganking lowbies impossible

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because they can actually fight back

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ergo, stop being a jerk

untold fractal Aug 5, 2018, 3:01 AM

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i mean it doesnt make it impossible, just harder

steel venture Aug 5, 2018, 3:02 AM

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(the whole thing about ganking is one-shotting a lowbie)

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(so. yeah. ganking isnt a thing if the scaling is in place.)

mint arch Aug 5, 2018, 3:02 AM

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dunno why they dont just make it so that if a player is a certain number of levels below u, u cant kill em

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then u dont need to faff about with these scaling shit

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and if these l33t players are gonna whine about not being able to gank lowbies... well ecks deeeeee to them

uncut vault Aug 5, 2018, 3:14 AM

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oh it isnt a bad thing at all, Im happy it made it in

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I was sad when they said theyd be removing it below 110

dense plover Aug 5, 2018, 4:17 AM

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it wasnt supposed to make it to live because it wasnt finished

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it was very unbalanced and probably still is

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my guess is that was an accident

uncut vault Aug 5, 2018, 4:48 AM

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https://twitter.com/perculia/status/1025903948639559680?s=21

Data Hunter Perculia (@perculia)

Rereading the CE novellas, two details stuck out this time -
The fire spread quickly due to Shaman specifically casting wind spells
Tyrande's role was not just to lead - at the end, she prays to Elune. It's implied that helped the prayers of the priestesses to ease suffer...

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Well it doesn’t explain the distance but it explains the speed

tulip sun Aug 5, 2018, 5:13 AM

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Huh

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Makes sense

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But i imagine people will rage

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Saying something like

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Why wpukd the shamans destroy nature!?!?

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Similar to the comments about druids

jovial coral Aug 5, 2018, 5:47 AM

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Gloss over those details, it's not a problem. Wasn't Jainas short mostly metaphorical?

outer maple Aug 5, 2018, 6:40 AM

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So are we just getting the scenario to start bfa on tuesday or are we actually going to get the artifact as well to stare at and covet?

cinder osprey Aug 5, 2018, 6:41 AM

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scenario

grizzled sleet Aug 5, 2018, 8:22 AM

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reputations starting with friendly is only for beta right?

uncut vault Aug 5, 2018, 8:55 AM

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Yes, there was a bug where people werent getting rep with Zandalari Empire/Proudmoore Admiralty, so they set them to friendly so everyone could do world quests

grizzled sleet Aug 5, 2018, 9:10 AM

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"So whenever I Bubble Hearth on my level 137 assassination fire monk , I lose the Buff that adds 20% critical strike to my Arcane Blast....I tried changing my professions to Fracking and Polishing but all that seems to do is reset the Cooldown on my " Reckless Charge Medallion " I bought from the Goblin Heirloom Vendor in the Sewers of Outland...Also does anyone know if I can buy the " Super Vegetarian Feast of Flatulence " to help buff my Raid Group? We are going after the Dark Murloch Priestess in Winterspring and REALLLYY Need the 3 hour agility buff for our Gnome Tanks,..."

sudden oak Aug 5, 2018, 9:36 AM

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Why would anyone have gnomes as tank?

jovial coral Aug 5, 2018, 9:43 AM

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Cause they shouldn't be able to be hunters either if not more so

hollow dock Aug 5, 2018, 9:47 AM

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my gnome is a tank sheerly because I find it funny

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whens he takes aggramars sword to the face

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with almost no armor on.

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cuz slutmog

uncut vault Aug 5, 2018, 10:12 AM

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https://i.gyazo.com/d14be79e6b8241575f7fb19bff5ce327.png

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Im a fan of this idle stance

jovial coral Aug 5, 2018, 11:20 AM

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I'm a fan of the armor sets coming out.

woeful sorrel Aug 5, 2018, 11:29 AM

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yo

zealous basalt Aug 5, 2018, 1:06 PM

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2 more days

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People

uncut vault Aug 5, 2018, 1:18 PM

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bleh

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blizz listened to the complainers and took out the gryphons

wild pewter Aug 5, 2018, 1:27 PM

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@uncut vault Is that an ingame model or just messed about in modelviewer? Would love to see that!

zealous basalt Aug 5, 2018, 1:32 PM

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Gryphons?

uncut vault Aug 5, 2018, 1:33 PM

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Modelviewer

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Also the rep gryphon mounts

zealous basalt Aug 5, 2018, 1:33 PM

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What was wrong with them?

uncut vault Aug 5, 2018, 1:33 PM

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People complained about them being recolors, so Blizz removed them completely

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Now alliance has three less rep mounts than horde

zealous basalt Aug 5, 2018, 1:34 PM

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implying all mounts are originals

uncut vault Aug 5, 2018, 1:36 PM

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It wasn’t a very well thought out complaint

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But Blizz listened

zealous basalt Aug 5, 2018, 1:36 PM

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Well

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Cut the three mounts from horde then

tulip sun Aug 5, 2018, 1:45 PM

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No, thatd be shitty

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You guys dont want your mpunts then fine xD

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Dont hurt the Horde

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The gryphons would have been cool, why complain.

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I dont understand people

night swift Aug 5, 2018, 2:21 PM

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I wouldve preferred gryphons than horses

hollow dock Aug 5, 2018, 2:29 PM

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that's called making it equal and thus not giving preferential treatment Kham

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c=

zealous basalt Aug 5, 2018, 3:08 PM

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Aka

tropic trail Aug 5, 2018, 3:15 PM

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I've been told that there are people here with wich I could boost some dungeons

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Anyone want to party up?

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@tropic trail Try the Looking for Group channels.

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That's the chat that told me to come here

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But still thanks I'll just continue to try

heavy cairn Aug 5, 2018, 3:27 PM

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@tropic trail I think calaelen means the actual channels here titled "Looking for Group"

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you probably want one of the following:
#mythic-plus-alliance-eu
#mythic-plus-alliance-us
#mythic-plus-horde-eu
#mythic-plus-horde-us

tropic trail Aug 5, 2018, 3:28 PM

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Oh I get it

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Thank you very much

tropic trail Aug 5, 2018, 4:10 PM

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@uncut vault Wooo! For Lordaeron!

woeful sorrel Aug 5, 2018, 4:20 PM

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Hello everyone

daring venture Aug 5, 2018, 4:29 PM

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I hv this feeling slyvanas will be killed off in BFA😄

terse patrol Aug 5, 2018, 4:48 PM

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@uncut vault No Horde bias tho 😉

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“wtf you dont like our recolors???”

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“none for you then”

sullen dagger Aug 5, 2018, 4:51 PM

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'morning

dense plover Aug 5, 2018, 5:46 PM

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i really dont think theyll kill sylvanas

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its lazy writing

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killing a character is the solution when you cant find another

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also

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theyve been very clear about her not being garrosh

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i think they are going to take this opportunity to have discussions about what being horde means, and how the warchief position should work

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and i think saurfang will take over

mint osprey Aug 5, 2018, 5:58 PM

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how is shaman in pvp at 120 or hunter?

zealous basalt Aug 5, 2018, 6:52 PM

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these 10k crits

grizzled sleet Aug 5, 2018, 6:53 PM

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10k critters ?

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I heard than you can kill 10k critters with a single blow

zealous basalt Aug 5, 2018, 6:56 PM

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facepalms

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📎 unknown.png

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almost 10k with aimed shot

night swift Aug 5, 2018, 7:03 PM

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My god

sudden oak Aug 5, 2018, 8:18 PM

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I think I did a 12k crit with my hunter

woeful sorrel Aug 5, 2018, 9:07 PM

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hello everybody

jovial coral Aug 5, 2018, 9:10 PM

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Hello wolf

dense plover Aug 5, 2018, 9:27 PM

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thats a reasonable crit

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endgame crits in bfa are like 30k or so i think

zealous basalt Aug 5, 2018, 9:28 PM

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is lvl 103

dense plover Aug 5, 2018, 9:28 PM

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hmmm

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that seems like a crit stat scaling issue

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i would report that

zealous basalt Aug 5, 2018, 9:28 PM

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nah

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its the mechanic of

dense plover Aug 5, 2018, 9:28 PM

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if it isnt on the way to being fixed already

zealous basalt Aug 5, 2018, 9:28 PM

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aimed shot

dense plover Aug 5, 2018, 9:29 PM

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but the percentage damage increase is too high at 103

zealous basalt Aug 5, 2018, 9:29 PM

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Damage is increased by 50% if you didn't attack your objetive yet

dense plover Aug 5, 2018, 9:29 PM

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yeah

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50%

zealous basalt Aug 5, 2018, 9:29 PM

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And mark of hunterd

dense plover Aug 5, 2018, 9:29 PM

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so whats your normal damage?

zealous basalt Aug 5, 2018, 9:29 PM

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with mark and no crit aim shot?

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5,008

woeful sorrel Aug 6, 2018, 12:58 AM

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hi guys

charred chasm Aug 6, 2018, 12:58 AM

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Heyyy

mint arch Aug 6, 2018, 1:21 AM

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@dense plover ya, sylvanas's end should not be death

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it should be her ending up with no more valk'yr, her connection to the forsaken destroyed/gone

meager warren Aug 6, 2018, 1:22 AM

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sylvanas's end should be death

mint arch Aug 6, 2018, 1:22 AM

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basically, she ends up alone and on her last single life

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in constant fear of her death and what awaits her

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then the lich queen can suffer in the fear

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before dying :D

zealous basalt Aug 6, 2018, 1:28 AM

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you are sick m8

mint arch Aug 6, 2018, 1:28 AM

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deserving end for the lich queen~

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also how is it sick xD its literally just taking away her immortality

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the one thing she is so desperate and willing to do w.e to keep

zealous basalt Aug 6, 2018, 1:31 AM

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why not make her alive again

mint arch Aug 6, 2018, 1:32 AM

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hmm, would be complicated.... that'd mean finding a cure to undeath

zealous basalt Aug 6, 2018, 1:33 AM

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didn't...putress had the cure?

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or find a method?

mint arch Aug 6, 2018, 1:41 AM

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dunno, dont remember o.O

tulip sun Aug 6, 2018, 2:14 AM

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That ia cruel

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Sylvanas has been through enough hell, despite anything she has done

mint arch Aug 6, 2018, 2:16 AM

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lol, her personal suffering is in no way justification for genocide, betrayals, torture, enslavement, plague, so on

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a cruel end for a cruel person is perfect

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also, sylvanas is hardly the only character in wow thats gone thru some shit

zealous basalt Aug 6, 2018, 2:25 AM

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nah

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Sylvanas needs the worst

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but doesnt quit the fact that void is sick

mint arch Aug 6, 2018, 2:30 AM

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cough

tulip sun Aug 6, 2018, 2:59 AM

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She has been through quite worse, unless dieing is somehow better? But i never said it was justification?

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Just dont need to make her suffer

zealous basalt Aug 6, 2018, 2:59 AM

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lol?

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Why not?

mint arch Aug 6, 2018, 2:59 AM

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lol, so she can cause immense suffering to others

zealous basalt Aug 6, 2018, 3:00 AM

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but she can't suffer

mint arch Aug 6, 2018, 3:00 AM

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ya, thats too much

zealous basalt Aug 6, 2018, 3:00 AM

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lel

mint arch Aug 6, 2018, 3:00 AM

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poor sylvie

zealous basalt Aug 6, 2018, 3:00 AM

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poor baby sylv

mint arch Aug 6, 2018, 3:00 AM

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sad

zealous basalt Aug 6, 2018, 3:01 AM

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2 sad 5 me

grizzled sleet Aug 6, 2018, 3:01 AM

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Guys

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What day are we?

mint arch Aug 6, 2018, 3:01 AM

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o.o

grizzled sleet Aug 6, 2018, 3:01 AM

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What day are we?

mint arch Aug 6, 2018, 3:01 AM

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Monday

grizzled sleet Aug 6, 2018, 3:01 AM

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NO

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TODAY IS AZSHARA'S DAY

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WARBRINGER : AZSHARA

zealous basalt Aug 6, 2018, 3:02 AM

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Ehh

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I don't think we are going to get a warbringers this week

mint arch Aug 6, 2018, 3:02 AM

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i got shouted at makore GWaobloChildPepeCry

uncut vault Aug 6, 2018, 3:02 AM

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bout four hours till azshara day for me

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its RP tournament day for me 😄