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my current theory is that he's one of the quest guys for the island expedition quests
like wrathions agent
but Im not sure
Hey, quick question: Are Island Expeditions going to compete with M+ in items dropped there? I mean are they going to be worth it to spammed like M+ dungeons for gearing?
As far as I know, you do islands for azerite, not gear
I think you get gear/tmogs from the island expedition too. Not 100% sure on that though.
you do get mogs
mogs? 
the assless thing I showed earlier
all the sets of vrykul armor are obtainable via island expeditions
along with a LOT of weapons
just search plundered in any category
do we get any more info at any point of the events between the end of the book and the start of the prepatch material?
k, thanks
It's almost like a week passes between those events and the next starts up
how is that morally grey?...
"I'm not sorry for what I had to do, but I am sorry I had to do it."
Do you understand that line?
because they're not murder hobos like us
Believe it or not, most soldiers do not want to kill
Believe it or no, living beings don't wanna take away someone's life*
The Forsaken assassin enemies on the Alliance side are true edgelords
“HEHEHE DEAAATHHHH”
Oof
so on the horde side of the War of the Thorns, Saurfang and Nathanos talk about some smuggler in Felwood, who is that?
The meso-american influenced culture looks like the meso-american influenced loa?
shocking
Think he's trying to connect Rastakan to Hakkar, the Blood Loa
like they are one being or the like
But we know they aren't.
but do we 🤔
Nah I just think he's wearing hakkar's body :p
but he could have an outside link with Rastakhan
Mesoamerican culture, warriors wore the skins of animals to gain their atributes. Jaguars for example, was for speed and strength.
final boss of bfa isn't azshara or some old god, it's a corrupted blood plague
Well the feathers do match. But where would he have gotten those feathers from?
We know 100% it's not azshara
she's the second raids final boss
:p
Either the first of second time we killed hakkar
Well patch 8.2 is 100% missing a raid boss
Unless we get dragon isles
Not really :p
No idea on the smuggler Dondo
We dont even know what 8.2 is going to be about
Right
let alone think about the third raids bosses
Hense why it's missing a final boss
and whatever wrathion's up to
We also see possible conflict in Western plaugelands, and between bolvar and RDF
rdf?
Red Dragonflight
Well dragon isles is smack dab in the middle of The litch king and the Red dragonshrine. (Not an answer to vris's question)
Because of the revamp of the tomb
In which, I just gotta ask why the Western Plaguelands? That's Silver Hand territory, now alliance, and with the efforts started in cataclysm, most outside of the heavy areas like Stratholme are certainly cleansed by now
Highlands. the Twilight Highlands. Not the hinterlands
Eh it's like in the mountains between them but yeah
the area between those two is arathi
The Vermillion Rebout is to the north of the HIghlands. The Hinterlands is to the South
it's definitely the Twilight Highlands
Hm maybe i have my map confused
No, the Hinterland is way north of the Highlands
From north to south is Sunwell > Silvermoon > EPL > Hinterlands > Arathi > Highlands > then like swamps and stuff, idk > Dark Portal
They're also on the same latituxe so it adds to the confusion
Yo man stop aith the sass
It was an honest mistake. Got two major dragon areas confused. Chill
Nah, I get ya, I'm just tired. I honestly forgot that the tree existed in Highland too
It's where you fight the nightmare drakes in emerald nightmare raid
a small and simple question: as horde how do i get from ogrimmar to the new bfa zones? I am done in silithus but it seems to just stop there
Switching to alliance
i have beta access , so it should be possible somehow
You’re in beta?
i just have no idea where the whole thing continues
Go back to your capital.
mhm, sylvanas has nothing to tell me
hero board has lowlevel stuff
and the only thing i see is the pet stuff near the tower
i have started the beta.exe so i assume this isn't live 😉
Been awhile but it should just give you a quest right off the bat for it
I forget if it is a ship or portal to get there though
after the intro
I am happy with this death and destruction
Makes the game interesting for most
But some text caught me offguard
¯_(ツ)_/¯
why is jaina's hair gray/white if shes young
It's arcane
I don't recall the exact reason, but the mana bomb did that to her
is she sad about it 😦
But some part of her hairs turned super saiyan
OK slayer
the reason her hair is Grey is because of what happened at Theramore
the mana bomb dropped and Rhonin pushed her out of a portal to save her life
the residual mana in the air was so potent that it changed her hair grey as the explosion backlashed through the portal.
Leaving only a strand of her hair yellow
She got a free hair bleach
It's not old age, its magic
Around 5 days and Teldrassil will burn 😢
So are the horde
The burning horde?
GLORY TO THE KAL'DOREI
FOR NAZJATAR
ISHNU'ALAH MOTHERFUCKERS
ISHNU'ALAH WEARY TRAVELER
Pulls out Elven minigun
So, Lady S'theno will certainly be a boss with Azshara ?
or not?
Isn't she affiliated with Azshara?
Lady S'theno 
S'theno is with the illidari
^
She may have been told to go to her by Vashj, but otherwise she holds no real ties to Azshara anymore
not after 20+ years in the Twisting Nether
The only ties she really has anymore is the fact that she's a wasser snek
Do we know anyone who is supposed to be a boss with Azshara or all of them will be new things?
nope
just that Azshara is the final or second to final boss in that second raid
we know nothing more
We are Jon Snow atm
DKs are Jon Snow
You die then think you stay dead
But surprise
You come back the next season
You will be known as the king who sacrificed everything for nothing.
For the Alliance
https://youtu.be/eYNCCu0y-Is?t=3m32s the only battlecry that matters
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Fucking Varian almost died changing of specs underwater
He died because he didn't repair his armor
He was trying to set up his keybinds
YO
hi
Lord Admiral Jaina Proudmore
TAELIA FORDRAGON
the BFA alliance campaign is going to be fuckin lit
It better
because the horde essentailly breaks Kul Tiras wide open
and the all the alliance does is rambo a bomb in Zandalar
Don’t forget they couldn’t catch a fat overweight Goblin
Who both sides (players) want dead
I really wanted him dead...
Well he is a goblin
Well, to be fair
A raid is planned for the alliance in Zuldazar
To capture or kill Rastakhan
and you know that fails
It didnt even happen yet....
You know it fails
No, i dont
We all do.
Horde will get what it wants
alliance never really gets anything done
but somehow the horde loses in the end
???
profit
Well no, it might work Vris, would give the Daughter a chance to take power
And a reason to fight
they're already allies of the horde
as of the end of the questing area
what more reason to fight do you need than that
Cause doesn’t she just want Zandalar to be safe?
She does
but the horde is at war
you don't sit out of a war when you're allied with a nation at war
Or am I remembering wrong?
what do you mean everyone isn't just sitting out of the war
because they (presumably) don't like sylvie
They want ti take out rasta in similar fashion to horde takijg out malfurion
but we didn't take out Malfurion?
Same concept i mean
No, one sec
The plan is to kill him to make the kaldorei not fight occupation, to avoid them fighting the war. The alliance wants to capture/kill Rasta so the Zandalari do not fight the war.
Kinds the same
🤔 I guess that would depend on how war-happy Jaina goes
but i see your point
that sounds interesting
I mean, it’s likely that he does die. Talanji is the leader of the Zandalari that’s being propped up, if he doesn’t die to the Alliance, he’ll die of old age
I hope Blizz does the former to give the Alliance stuff to do in this war
Depends on how much power he lost from Dino Loa dying I guess
I wish he would just retire, but he likely will die somehow.
He has been talked about so much
And shows up to die :(
they wanted to hit the kaldorei to make the alliance not fight
meanies
FOR KALIMDOR
@uncut vault I honestly prefer him to Talanji, He is pretty badass, but either way If He dies I hope the Alliance kill him
I like em both. I mainly like Talanji because I am so happy they didnt do the stereotypical "dad is old and dumb, daughter is dainty and wants peaceful change in the world" stuff
no turns out dad knows whats up just fine
talanji will kill what she wants to protect her kingdom, even go to war
Sure why not
So your saying we should pull a Warhammer Vris?
How do you get airdrops?
theyre random, I havent seen a single one so far
you can hear the (really damn annoying) flying machines around darkshore though
so they are gonna spawn
Guess who burned Teldrassil
Lmao I knew it!
So
atm we have to grab 100 azerite
Can we redeem them later for one level up with the Heart :D?
No
fuc
👀
@restive sage well?
As the age old conflict between the Horde and Alliance reignites Azeroth's future will be forged in the fires of war.
Get gabbin' or get goin'.
???
Lights bad m'kay
<@&299347348847329281> Inappropriate trolling - Bv-Slayer
eh.... that's arguable. I don't think any harm was intended.
...and its hours later.
He does it a lot
you need @ first
https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/8a3k1q/bfaspoilers_queen_azshara_model_with_animation/ @shadow ore
oh that is nice
https://i.imgur.com/NfFAqoa.png the concept art of what it'd look like
Along with Mugamba's Outlook as well :/
will vulpera become allied race?
Maybe (TM)
(I'm still betting on vulpera more than sneks)
yeah,at least sethrak discord has more than the HE one(if i remember correctly)
but yes the vulpera discord is closing in to 1500 people,it's the biggest "unannounced allied race" discord right now
oh boy
careful.Might fall to the same thing the helf discord did
I mean I'd bet on Allied high elves before sethrak too, tbh
But still
1500 person discord for a race that isn't confirmed

We need to kill Horde filth.
@hollow dock
I saw.
REEEEE
Jus tsayin what I've been sayin since day 1
^
s e a s o n o f w a r
Shame I have too many active RP characters as is and can't squeeze in a nelf
tucks very packed folder of 129 active characters into the couch. yea. Shame
They're not on live. :p
beta?
Nope
Private Server?
yup
Gotcha
I never said it
is it confirmed there will be more allied races
yes
😮
Vulpera and Sethrak seem likely
as they recieved a lot of attention
but not confirmed
y i heard vulpera has all their animations worked out and armor fits on them on wowhead or something
i even read somewhere vulpera had more animations made for them then some races now have
Ain't nothing confirmed yet beyond KTs and Zandas in (probably) 8.1
But fairly likely of more
Smart to not get hyped about vulpera until they're actually confirmed, reasonable suspicion they will be regardless 😛
Junker Gnomes seem likely.
Please show me where this race called "Junker Gnomes" exist. Because there's no evidence that "Junker Gnomes" exist
anywhere
@zealous basalt
So
atm we have to grab 100 azerite
Can we redeem them later for one level up with the Heart :D?
They are going to be used to burn Teldrassil 
Oof
theyre not
Junker Gnome Caverns - Prototype
Plus, the Rusted Vault which got renamed to the (Something) Junkyard.
Which is in game
The questline investigating the disappearance of the local gnomes.
Ignoring the signs is just being ignorant.
this datamining is nearly 6 months old
that map is unused
the questline is about the KUL TIRAN gnomes that disappeared
and as Quiet pointed out, they've gone issing since around the third war
the Junkyard is not where thye lived. that used to be a city. it's become a junkyard after they've disappeared
there is nothing besides that unused map
that calls them junker gnomes
@hollow dock
its not 100% they will be a race
but its not just an unused map
theres a shit load of custom gnome assets all tagged as junker gnome assets
along with some other map files and data tag stuff
its likely we will see patch content with them
relevance of them as an allied race
¯_(ツ)_/¯
relevance really isn't a necessity.
but its likely we will see them at some point since the art and model team spent a significant time on assets
http://www.wowhead.com/news=281085/battle-for-azeroth-datamining-8-01-beta-build-25902 what is this? the build which goes live when BFA launches or what?
the working theory
is this all ties into an area called the rusted vault
a scrap yard
and that it will be related to the fact that all of the kul tiran gnomes up and vanished
So you really buy into what honk is saying
that there's australian gnomes living out in Kul tiras somewhere
with mech parts and stuff
cuz that's what he's saying
Not saying the missinggnomes don't exist
I know they full well exist
im saying there are missing gnomes and a lot of new gnome assets
and that its all tagged as junker gnomes
i dont see them being australian
i figured they would just be a mix between regular gnomes and the mechanical gnomes from northrend
that is what I am staunchly saying is a no
I do too
theyve hinted towards it heavily, and its been so long since they had any lore
but legitimate Junker gnomes as the blizzard fanbase knows 'Junker'
no
that's a really big "Most probably not"
that wont happen
@terse patrol dont think of junker gnomes as junkrat. think of junker gnomes as gnomes who are like broken down machines that build out of scrap
part gnome, part machine
maybe theyre a result of an attempt to recreate themselves as mechagnomes
they wont be australian
theyll be regular gnomes who are physically changed
because thats how they started
Dont really agree with the idea of half-mechanical gnomes but w/e
could be full mechanical
idk
but they were regular gnomes to start
so you have to work from that as the base
^
They can’t just make an Allied Race and make them just look like gnomes.
So, cyborgs seem to be the best way of making them different.
Yes because there's absolutely no other possible ways to make them look different
Tell us, then. What makes sense to you?
That they aren't an allied race and are just a population of gnomes taken by some mysterious force, possibly whatever the sea priests are worshiping
A’ight well. I think each base race is getting an allied race, then the roll out will slow down with each expac.
Void Panda Allied Race
yes
Panda => Tortollan
Man I wish Tortollan were gonna be playable
They will, either at the end of BFA or next expansion, because they can't be involved in the war
or whenever the war ends, assuming BFA is not just about war
Why will they exactly?
Because they are the best Panda equivalent out there
The Abandoned Scrapheap isn’t just a bit pile of garbage anymore
Updates made it into a full town
Why does there need to be a panda equivalent?...
@terse patrol
A’ight well. I think each base race is getting an allied race, then the roll out will slow down with each expac.
Following what he said and many people think the same, including me
Vulptera 😮
Vulptera?
They can update the model for players, just like nightbornes
Nightborne didn't have massive shells on their backs
Do we have any screens of the Abandoned Scrapheap as it is atm?
But we haven't got NPCs model
No because those are specialmodels with armor latched onto it
that's why we dont have NPC models
and instead of altered nelf models
😰
why the cold sweat?
Don't kill my Tortollan hopes 😰
Or no snitties for you 
But I don't think armor is going to be an issue, they can just hide the back of each armor with the shell and give us shells color choice in the barbershop
If china rules the world, maybe Blizzard will change forsaken model?
Not in wow
WoW is also a game
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Whitemane for HotS 😮
Brinf me those thighs
praise the light
And woW?
No Sylvanas for HOTS... oh wait.... horde favouritism !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Who needs a relevant priest when you have thigh-bait who isn’t even a priest anymore
And who doesn’t even have the one thing that made her popular in HotS
amiright port?
Whitemane is oof
Even if wow's female legs arent really thicc
Wtb new thigh customization
@uncut vault she does actually have thigh highs on like she does in game
the angle is real bad but those gold bands
are the start of it
Let's be real
Whitemane is like the 3rd most iconic WoW priest
And Anduin doesn't need any more spotlight by getting into Heroes
it would be hopelessly cringy if both varian and anduin get into heroes
1 is enough
And Velen deserves better than to be trapped in the purgatory that is the Nexus
Those thighs will crush the heresy out of you
@rich apex i think you'd change your opinion if you did any tank magetower
I -tried- to do it 😛
Vanessa, third most famous rogue
Turned into your pet
tess is pretty famous
basically, with a quote
so is shaw. VanCleef
I think it Valeera Sanguinar, Mathias, Vanessa, then Tess
your forgetting the Orc chick
How old is Mathias?
Oh yeah, Garona, forgot about her
Is there any class hall, Garrison type stuff in BFA?
With new followers?
Yes
Cool
Up to 4, currently
ugh
depends on the side for her 😆
she's both
So then it Garona, Valeera, Mathias, Vanessa, then Tess
Ya, i like the mission tables this time around
Or more so the theme i guess
The special units
Each race having a generic troop
Champions are cool too
unneeded fluff tbh
Still nice
the fluf is the cool thing about them
C:
¯_(ツ)_/¯
I wonder if Dark Iron, Zandalari, Maghar and Kul Tirans will get generic troops
All currently playable races have generic troopa
S
I hope not. I want these races tobe at leasta bit special
How would added troop types make them not special?
It makes them more generic. In the past, when playing this game, if you saw more than just the faction you're helping: it was something special to see.
When you saw Night elf archers over Dwarven gunman, you knew something was much larger than it actually is
but for 2 years of seeing htat, it kills that feeling
I mean, youd rather not see them aiding the war effort?
Maghar appear nowhere thus far.
Your arguments against including troop types is poor. There is nothing wrong with adding to something all races are a part of. Zandalari Dinomancers, Kul'tiran Guards, Mag'har Outriders or Limbflayers, Dark Iron Shamans or something.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
alright I guess myopinion is poor.
certainly one way to just shut down a discussion
I just meant there is not really much evidence or reason to go against adding them for representation. Your not giving much of an argument against it.
I never presented it as objective
it's a completely subjective view
if somehow my feelings on it wasn't enough?...
"I am a monument to all your sins..."
I did.
I love you
"This one is more machine than human"
"And has its mind concluded"
"This one is but flesh and faith"
"And is the more deluded"
"There is much talk. And I have listened. Through rock and metal and time. Now I shall talk, and you shall listen."
God, I miss THAT Halo...
you mean weird fleshy dude in a pitch black pit
Yes
I think we all miss that Halo
we miss the gravemind
in legion dalaran is there a portal to darnasus/darkshore/somewhere neary that location?
there are the portals to every capital city as always
because darnasus is just a flaming torch
not yet
it isn't yet. O.o
burns torch
Just saw that G'huun pic
I love it
I love the gravemind. Such a disturbing creature, but I still love it.
sylvanas is so awesome best warchief ever 😃
highly debateable
i like her cause she's the only viable female lore on horde side sorry lillian voss dont do much for me
Goku only speaks on the fuckability of those females btw
what
Goku over there, the discord person that just typed, only sees the value of female characters based on tits and ass
if thats how he wants to judge video game characters
You do realize that's heavily sexist right?
about virtual characters
if it was actual people, there'd be something wrong, but sylvanas isn't real
Alright look.
A person
sees themselves
in a fantasy character
If you degrade that character
you are
degrading that person
sylvannas isnt a real person
There is someone over in the warcraft channel that saw a lot of good in Sylvanas' character
they wanted to be that character
degrading sylvanas
would degrade them
Do you not understand that?
I don't think anyone wants to be undead
Facepalm
ok what did you say
I'm just not going to bother with sexists
I mean, I understand that maybe degrading virtual characters could be a reflection of what they could do irl, but it's a virtual character and we don't know that for sure
Also, there legitimately no other female horde characters afaik
weenie
Good job dodging the topic.
aggra, draka, greatmother geyah, warlord zaela, lilian voss, aponi brightmane, mayla highmountain, jale rivermane, lady liadrin, sassy hardwrench, boss mida, first arcanist thalyssra, arcanist valtrois, ly'leth lunastre, princess talanji
@summer cobalt when he said 'Legitimate' females, he meant fuckable ones. Not as in they're female. As Orewing just listed, there's a lot of horde female characters.
apparently literally every allied race leader so far isnt a woman
The lightforged are greeted by a female as well
Well Turalyon leads the Lightforged.
Yeah but one of the commanders send them to azeroth
And they happen to be female
But yes Turalyon is the real leader
the person you actually first meet as a new character is fareeya
unlike void elves, where its alleria
Fareeya yes
All Horde Allied races are led by females actually
Even the upcoming ones, so.
Sylvanas may be the most prominantx but not near the onmy
Only
They probably are doing that on purpose because the Horde is lacking in story relevant females lately. But that is fixed noe.
🤔 @hollow dock if one is that easily offended by an opinion other than their own - in poor taste or not, one should possibly not be on social platforms of this scale.
Im sorry that I dont stand for sexism then
"if you cant handle people being sexist, you shouldnt be on a video game discord"
???
😊
Well, the thing is that the first four of that list aren't technically in the forefront of the horde since they're more focus on keeping up their family, not the horde
Lilian, like he said, just isn't an interesting character lore wise
who tf is sassy hardwrench?
and the allied race females are too new to the horde to become warchief
he's constantly come in here and spoke of all the female characters solely on their sex icons
that's it
Well I didn't know that, so don't get antsy with me about it
I thought that when he said "lilian voss just doesn't do it for me" I thought he was talking lorewise
I don't pay attention to this discord as much as others do
And I thought you were skewing what he was saying into some loosely sexist thing just to get triggered by it
but apparently you had perfectly valid reasons
No. I'm not
Sorry about defending someone who I legitimately didn't know was notorious for being sexist
But, I still believe that Sylvanas is the best (lorewise) female candidate for being warchief.
it's fine. We make mistakes.
That's fine to think, but Go ku only appeals to female characters based on the size of their tits
I got a lore question. With the new expansion how many other alliances places are being destroyed? I haven't played much in a long long time.
parts of Borealus
No clue where that is.
its in Kul Tiras
Teldrasil (the giant tree) and Lordaeron (Undercity) will be burnt/sieged respectively
Saurfang is not terrible, but his current state of mind would certainly lead to more horde deaths.
I am an advocate for Baine
so is Undercity a massive crater now?
no, just the top of it is a bit sieged
I'm shocked Saurfang jumped onboard with invading Teldrassil so fast
like a coward
And that would lead to deaths
but the path from the north is scorched in two week
do you not know orc culture?
I am saying him not retreating like Sylvanas does, would most likely lead to more deaths
so alliance loses ashenvale, darkshore, teldrassil and Undercity is just baseiged. Wow that horde bias is still strong i see.
Undercity is lost
but
Alliance doesn't get it either
No one does
Syvlanas just blights it
Gilneas
Gallywix for Warchief
Teldrassil is an entire region. Undercity is just a capital city though
I mean, in all likelyhood it will be Baine
A dev mentioned each core race being warchief if i recall
why is warchief changing? Sylvanas died?
No, just hypotheticals
so what happens after Teldrassil burns and Undercity is gone?
do they do that phase thing to make it all pointless?
yep
Teldrassil becomes a complete skybox
Well, its the only time we will ever see Teldrassil at the full glory
Someone set off some fireworks
sigh... Alright well I guess the WoW combat is still the same? The lore is still horde oriented... I guess I wont get this expansion either
thanks for answering my questions you guys.
The story in Zuldazar (Horde) is second to Kul Tiras (Alliance) because the Kul Tiran story is more fun and interresting
Uh...
and it has a good twist at the end
Bit of a overreaction
@fiery shale It is not horde oriented at all.
And what do you mean still??
BfA is pretty equal
I always felt Alliance always got the short end of the stick all the time.
Cataclysm. Horde get huge castle bases with new models everywhere.
Alliance gets old models and some tents
Undercity is still lost regardless
Ultimately yes, it was still a victory for the alliance
they get vulpera, the horde's definitely got the short end of the stick
a victory for the alliance would be dead Sylvanas
Whatever Vris
or captured undercitty
we have neither
you can't say that's a victory for the alliance when they gain nothing
We didnt capture Teldrasssil either
LOL? Horde bombs themselves?! rather then the Alliance winning the battle?
HAHAHAHAHA
even in victory they dont do crap
Sylvanas orders undercity blighted to deny the alliance the city
And the Horde do not own ashenvale and darkshore
Yes they do
that's the whole point of the invasion force
when teldrassil burns
alliance pulls out
they marched all the way to the capital and burned it down.
we LOSE Ashenvale forest
Mission tabkes show that Night Elves took sole back
thats the very definition of owning territory
Vris is a very biased viewed person ti be getting information from. Lemme finish. In bfa, it is said the nighr elves are fighting hard and reclaimed places
It burned down because one nelf didn't listen to Smokey the Guardian Druid
I say give the expansion a shot, the alliance has a lot of stuff.
I remember the wargens got a tree there while the horde got the entirety of Azashara as a new zone
Oh, definately
Sylvanas has nothing to do with the discussion
She is the horde leading this
Nomi had a cooking accident
So yes
We are talking of Horde involvement
She has everything to do with this
We are talking about the horde possibly burning down the tree
It's very likely that they were the oens that had done it
We deny them the tree, they deny us Lordaeron
You cant say that at all
specifically because, you cannot trust Sylvanas. She has alterior motive in all of this. She even admits to Nathanos in Before the Storm that she's well aware she's becoing like garrosh
you see also in Before the Storm that she is actively hiding information from the horde leaders
You can see that she is being manipulative
she lies
We are not nathanos
@tulip sun Could you just give me some new regions Alliance got?
Because so far I count Gilneas, Azashara, Ashenval (half destroyed already), darkshore, Teldrassil, Theramore and a few others completely lost to alliance players.
Vris, i am not arguing this. We dont know who it is.
we have no reason to believe
She only cares about the survival of the Forsaken, not the Horde
We don't
I even said
we don't
BUT
it's very likely the horde does it
I am nost saying they do
Grine, i will. One moment
I'm not going to make any assumptions. We'll see what was responsible next Tuesday
We get Kul Tiras, the world's largest maritime kingdom, thus forth, the world's largest navy
And in war, it's all about the naval game
Which gets butt blasted in the war campaign btw
The Alliance also raids Zuldazar in the next patch to kill or capture the zandalari king
So
Anyway, one moment Grine
which will almost certainly fail
Zandalar is the oldest civilization on Azeroth
Prolly gilneas in the future
prolly silvermoon too
Where and when Kham
I think with the destruction of UC, horde has (mostly) been wiped off the Eastern Kingdoms
On Blizzcon?
Last I checked, the war lien didn't move it down
What they've said at blizzcon hasn't aligned with what's in game right now Mak
Well, It's infered
the war line from the war table is currently fighting in Arathi and going down into Silverpine and Hillsbrad
there's been no movement from that as far as we've read from beta
If the forsaken don't have a major stronghold in lordaeron, then the smaller camp will diminish and then Gilneas is back in Alliance hands
The whole point of Arathi or someplace is to have a place to attack Gilneas from
I know that mucj
It's a player drawn one based on all the reports. So far alliance is moving in from Lordaeron downwards followingthe horde
ignoring silverpine and rushing to gut the horde while we can
This image sums up perfectly how as an alliance player, paying the same money as horde players but always being given sub par content and being told its totally fair.
Alliance already has forces in Gilneas, or Silverpine, at least, horde forces are mostly in northern hillsbrad and arathi
At least our rulers aren't corrupt
the point of arathi is to stop the alliance from moving north
it has nothing to do with gilneas
I mean, cata being horrible for alliance was just a case of them openly admitting they didnt have time for alliance
thats when I quit wow
cata was trash, bfa can't be
good for you
for the survival of the game
if you have proof they are not pulling the same shit as before then do so
are you just here to spread that feeling?
no seeing if the game is worth returning to
its not my job to provide proof. if you dont want to play
dont
look it up for yourself
then dont talk to me lol
theres loads of videos of beta
be on your merry way
You ain't interested in talking about the subject
neither are you
so why should we talk about it?
you are comparing cata to now, not vice versa
^
also
you have this thing in your head
where you see alliance as getting shafted constantly
Well whats new now? I just see 2 new regions called Kultiras and this new troll place and heard the horde, again, gets more interesting quests.
also a large chunk of it gets blown up
also, alliance has good quests too
and a better story than the horde imo
i disagree
I also heard Alliance loses the entire teldrassil region along with darkshore and ashenval meanwhile horde gassed their own undercity
so in this equation what does Alliance get?
Kham was preaching to this man that BFA is pretty equivalent of alliance and horde treatment :p
if everything was equivalent, then there would be no anger or emotions in general
well in previous expantions like cata we did not get anything equivalent either
is why he's so confused
dude
so is this expantion the same?
go look up the alliance city
The Horde gets some trolly bois, the Alliance get the Daughter of the Seas and the Daughter of the Lich King
the horde did not lose anything for alliance to gain that city and honestly I dont like the look of it.
Jaina's back with a whole new revenge
alliance lost 3 whole regions
3
The Alliance only lost Teldrassil, the Horde lost Undercity, that's it
