i'd bet on thrall
#beta-ptr-spoilers
sullen dagger
hollow dock
since it's him that killed Daelin.
ruby star
That would be pretty epic Vris
ruby star
especially in a cinematic
uncut vault
They’re definitely building up for them meeting again
Rexxar recognizes what he’s done
summer cobalt
I'm personally hyped for Taelia's story
hollow dock
"No, Thrall. No more peace can be had. Not anymore." and then a fight comes out.
uncut vault
I can see it being melancholy more then a rage filled kill, if it’s Rexxar
sullen dagger
yeah
uncut vault
He killed her father, but he wasn’t malevolent, I think Jaina can still recognize that. Rexxar stands out from both of his people
hollow dock
have Jaina wreck havoc with the full might of the Kul Tiran fleet at her disposal.
ruby star
Hell yes Vris!
sullen dagger
that's a threat as i've seen one
ruby star
Shame Khadgar is a little ****
uncut vault
Inb4 Jaina gains the ability to put bubbles around the fleet
hollow dock
After BFA, watch the "Daughter of the Sea" shanty change from a horror story, to a prideful one.
ruby star
Khadgar and Jaina could kick some serious horde ass together
uncut vault
Have them rise from the water and assault Zandalar
hollow dock
That'd be amazing
sullen dagger
the shanty is glorious
hollow dock
Sylvanas' spies note the full Kul Tiran fleet is approaching
so the Zandalari fleet sails to meet them
but when they arrive, there is no fleet there.
sullen dagger
i'm eager to see the next animation
sullen dagger
but i doubnt they can come colse on epicity as this one
hollow dock
Suddenly, Galleons burst from below and open fire on the disorganized fleet.
hollow dock
A surprise attack from under water, as the Daughter of the Sea lays down the unprepared Zanadalari sailors. They're routed within minutes.
ruby star
I am glad we are not seeing him anymore but
hollow dock
Yea pretty much.
ruby star
He should be helping the Alliance
ruby star
He's an ass
hollow dock
Not really?
hollow dock
He's just a man that sees the larger picture.
hollow dock
He is, but he's also seen so many more horrors than the horde and understands that they really aren't the biggest threat to Azeroth.
sullen dagger
yes but afther seeing so much carnage, i dont think you can keep that cheery actitude
i know
i mea the tone in general
of his persona
sullen dagger
i guess
sullen dagger
remember, knowdeleage is power
summer cobalt
maybe he's smart enough to realise that acting pissy would play into the hells that the world lay upon him
tranquil steeple
what is knowdeleage and can I eat it?
hollow dock
He's not that old, but he certainly feels old.
He's worn down by the constant infighting despite the larger threats to Azeroth.
summer cobalt
Didn't he catch up to his aging spell?
hollow dock
Not really. They just gave him an actual model.
rather than the old imported WC3 model
sullen dagger
he's now part of the silver foxes club of azeroth
summer cobalt
Isn't he like 50-ish now? He could've finally had the ability to channel his old look
hollow dock
He's around late 30s early 40s IIRC
ruby star
it's all good, Khadgar can go do what he's gotta do, glad we don't have to see him for ages, he got on my nerves. Can't wait to see more of Jaina
sullen dagger
he goes where garona's song went
probably
they sued him for 2 xpacs, and into the freezer he goes
used*
hollow dock
Nah he went to Karazhan
summer cobalt
if the first war was 30 year before now, and he was like 20 when it happened, simple addition... y'know
hollow dock
consult with Medivh.
sullen dagger
medivh it's very neutrale-y evil-ish
summer cobalt
Chaotic Neutral
sullen dagger
more like chaotic evil
hollow dock
he was 17 at the time of the first war
sullen dagger
but yea
ruby star
Medvih is great, much better then Khadgar IMO
hollow dock
He's not Evil at all
sullen dagger
eh
hollow dock
Medivh was only evil becauseof Sargeras.
Without that, he's true neutral
He doesn't care which side it is, horde or alliance. He's here to safeguard Azeroth.
summer cobalt
so yeah, he's like 52-53 right about now
sullen dagger
he's been vassal for sargeras and the bruning legion since he was a child
or am i mexing characters?
mixing*
summer cobalt
Medivh was the vessel of Sargeras until he died
then his mother rezzed him when Sargeras left him
then he went around and righted his wrongs
then he trusted that the world can learn how to run without a Guardian
hollow dock
https://wow.gamepedia.com/File:KhadgarDarkPortalW2.JPG Khadgar in WC2. https://wow.gamepedia.com/File:Khadgar_Shattrath_WoD.jpg Khadgar now. Roughly the same look despite all the time that's passed.o;
ruby star
So where is Medvih now?
ruby star
Medvih needs to return properly
hollow dock
Why? he's not the Guardian anymore.
ruby star
Doesn't need to be the Guardian to return
hollow dock
So then my original question stands
tranquil steeple
At best I could see Medivh working with Khadgar to help us get a way to deal with Azshara
hollow dock
You've yet to actually answer why
ruby star
Me?
tranquil steeple
If things HAS to be done with Medivh
hollow dock
yes you
ruby star
answer what?
hollow dock
[7:45 AM] Vris: Why? he's not the Guardian anymore.
to your statement of Medivh needing to return
ruby star
"It will be great to see him" Also I am sure they could make a story reason why
summer cobalt
I liked Khadgar, but honestly, he can go screw himself with the 4986 apexis crystals I had to give to him
hollow dock
That's what I am asking you for. 🙃
sullen dagger
nah, we have jaina
ruby star
I mean theres many reason he could return tbh
sullen dagger
that's all we need
ruby star
Blizzard I am sure could write up ways
sullen dagger
the new jaina is friggin awesome
hollow dock
Like? You keep saying that but never actually answering it
hollow dock
You haven't.
What story reasons are there that he needs to return to the world stage?
you say theres plenty
ruby star
Oh story reasons
ruby star
Hmm I have no idea, maybe because Khadgar is doing a crap job and we need an actual good wizard/mage to do the job, or old gods/void, I have no idea, thats for blizzard to decide if they ever brought him back
hollow dock
Medivh isn't alliance or horde, he's been out of world politics for the past 30 years simply observing the world and both sides transgressions against each other.
Khadgar did a fantastic job against the legion wtf
summer cobalt
And on dreanor
ruby star
Khadgar just gets on my nerves and I don't like him at all (personal opinion of him)
tranquil steeple
Khadgar is basically the glue that held the Horde and Alliance together enough to properly fight back against the Legion, while also making sure neither side went rampage on the other mid-way
hollow dock
He's very literally the only reason we actually had a fighting chance against the Legion
and that's fine Dror
you can not like the man all you like
but to say he did nothing and is doing a shit job
is pretty unfair
ruby star
Sure, maybe I was too harsh on him
Though I don't see how Khadgar can accept the horde burning down tell (they might not, but from the alliance perspective they did)
sure he might see the greater picture
summer cobalt
I think Khadgar pulled out from the world before the War of the Thorns/Burning of Teld.
hollow dock
he's been neutral
hollow dock
But you are forcing him onto alliance terms
ruby star
Well they are being mass killed
hollow dock
and this is just more faction war to anyone outside of it
By that logic he'd have never worked with the horde in the first place since the first and second wars happened 🙃
summer cobalt
Honestly, I would flip if either Jaina or Taelia goes into one to one combat with Sylvanas and wins
it'd be so cool
sullen dagger
JAINA POWAH
hollow dock
I'm doubtful we'll see that until at least late in the expac.
ruby star
@hollow dock So Khadgar would be okay with his friends dying ?
hollow dock
and even then, blizz can't have one side winning so it'll be neutral
sullen dagger
SHE WOULD BITCHSLAP THE BANSHEE TO OBLIVION
ruby star
if the horde murderd sons of lothar?
sullen dagger
yes
hollow dock
THEY MURDERD THE MAN WHO BROUGHT THEM TOGETHER
Still willing to work with them
that should really tell you
what his thoughts would be
uncut vault
Modern horde, I think Drorith means
hollow dock
that's the thing port. most of the hordes warriors are the horde that invaded.
uncut vault
Unlike Alleria and turalyon, the other members have been around enough to know the difference
hollow dock
Leadership sure switched hands
A lot
in thesep ast thirty or so years
but the warriors have roughly stayed the same
tropic trail
Well, tbh. only orcs ere in the original horde.
Basically all other parts of the horde didn't have a part in the invasion
summer cobalt
they joined after thrall and grommash broke free
or orgrim, not sure, that part of the lore is a bit vague for me
tropic trail
Well, the trolls and tauren joined in Kalimdor in WC3 (after the invasion was over)
The Forsaken sometimes between the end of WC3 and the start of Classic
And everyone else even later.
So only a minority of todays horde warriors (however many of the original orc army veterans are left) were part of the horde from the second war
summer cobalt
and you could theorize that many were slain in the Siege of Orgrimmar
terse patrol
You’d reckon the Kirin Tor would be trying to push for peace.
sullen dagger
ha fatc hance
forest lynx
One does not simply reason with a psycho zombie woman
tropic trail
Well, yes. But the ones that are today in the horde mostly joined on kalimdor
hollow dock
this is verymuch true
however.
Doesn't change that a good chunk of orcs still serve the horde that were in the invasion.
Those same orcs that ruined Stormwind and most of the Eastern Kingdoms
despite this, Khadgar is willing to work with them.
that was the whole point
tropic trail
I think I had a discussion on the lore-discord to the extent the KT would stay neutral and we came basically to the conclusion that they most likely don't have 4 votes on the council of 6 that would vote to realign to the alliance atm
hollow dock
ofc they would. Khadgar is neutral
tropic trail
you mean they would have 4 votes? Or that they wouldn't?
hollow dock
that theyd' stay neutral
sullen dagger
i think the idea of the horde is silly r/n
at the beggining, yea, it make sense
now?
not so much
tropic trail
Well, they still could outvote khadgar if they wanted. But the current members make that seem unlikely
hollow dock
but muh pvp
sullen dagger
they can have the pvp as a "sport"
or as a friendly comeptition or reminder of the past days
since there are arenas etc
gah when blizzard will decide to join bothf actions
that would be a day to celebrate
hollow dock
Modera, maybe. Aethas? most likely not. Kalec certainly not. Ansirem, he could go either way. Vargoth probably isn't even on the council anymore. Karlain probably wouldn't.
So yea. Even if the idea is brought to them, they'd stick neutral with Khadgar and just sit floating over the Broken Isle or move themselves back to the Crater and just float over it
tropic trail
Aethas is not on the council anymore (was just allowed back into town, not into the leadership)
Ansirem I could see going for yes
He is always portrayed as the most skeptical of the horde
"yes" in this case indicating an alignment with the alliance
But yeah, majority doesn't seem to swing there
uncut vault
I’m still mad they never did anything with Ansirem in Legion
The distrust towards the horde we’d seen a total of twice post-purge, and then he was just irrelevant
tropic trail
Well, tbh. most characters are irrelevant most of the time.
I would prefer for more organizations to have a bit of internal politics like the Kirin Tor, but alas
sullen dagger
go alliance, you arer welcome
we have internal polythics and intrigues for friggin days
haughty bison
rogue in bfa https://clips.twitch.tv/CoyPoorSwordPanicBasket
tight lotus
is there anywhere I can find updates on the changes on the beta server?
sullen dagger
reddit is your best bet
grizzled sleet
zealous basalt
D:
grizzled sleet
🤔
weak dawn
So fat
tranquil steeple
what an absolute UNIT lads
strange falcon
an outfit to surpass tiger panda
terse patrol
@grizzled sleet thicc
sharp bluff
Interesting, the mounts are from two different quests
hollow dock
yes. one horde. one alliance
clever ember
^
sharp bluff
So you have to do both sides to get both, just making sure
strange falcon
do you have to unlock both of them,or it works that if you unlock one,it "changes" with the other one when you go on an ally character?
hollow dock
whaaa.
sharp bluff
people have been saying otherwise
viral terrace
No
hollow dock
you have to do both sides to get both mounts? how shocking and unseen that you'd have to do horde quests to get a horde mount
viral terrace
On the beta I've only done alliance, and when I go on my horde, I have the mount
idk why
hollow dock
That is beta though. o: no idea if that is the same functionality over on live.
grizzled sleet
If you get one, you get the other
Do you realize how many people don't have a lvl 110 in the other faction?
hollow dock
OK and?
if they dont play the other side
what does it matter they get a mount
they can't use
and thus doesn't count towards the acheiv
grizzled sleet
You may use it someday
hollow dock
since it only counts usable mounts
People didn't have level 80s to go and do the naxx glory achievs
that doesn't mean that blizz didn't still remove the mount rewards for em
grizzled sleet
._.
clever ember
So much lag right now =/
hollow dock
Id imagine. everyones rushing to go and lay siege or protect their homes
sharp bluff
Gotta say, this is funny
clever ember
We may not get the mounts this week. Since the event is suppose to happen over the course of two weeks.
strange falcon
repost pic btw^
grizzled sleet
By the way Vris, the mount is bound to the battlenet account, you can send it by mail to other faction Do you know what does it mean ? It means that no matter what character you use it on, it will unlock both
sharp bluff
is it? I tend to skim a lot of stuff in here Dafire
hollow dock
OK? You do realize that an ALLIANCE CHARACTER being given a HORDE MOUNT makes no sense right?
grizzled sleet
Lol
hollow dock
ALL mounts are Bound to Bnet.
grizzled sleet
Vris
The mount in the guild vendor
works the same way
If you send it to horde (alliance mount) it bcome the horde mount
hollow dock
Yes because it comes from 1 vendor. It's meant to change between the two.
viral terrace
^^^^
hollow dock
However, something to note is that I have the darassian nightsaber
but don't have its horde equivalent
grizzled sleet
Not all mounts are bounds to battlenet when you loot them
hollow dock
Darnassian*
grizzled sleet
When you use them yes
but when you got the item
it's bound to that character until you use it
Vris - Aujourd'hui à 17:18
ALL mounts are Bound to Bnet.
Please stop saying anything to prove anything
hollow dock
Items aren't mounts. =|
You're talking about the actual item
I'm talking about the mount
grizzled sleet
That's what I'm talking about, the item here says Binds to Blizzard Battle.net account
sullen dagger
do you guys realize you are arguing on something you are agreeing on?
hollow dock
Yes
grizzled sleet
It says Binds to Blizzard Battle.net account
Before you use it to learn the mount.
It means you get both versions when you learn it
End of the story
viral terrace
tru
dense plover
theyre the same set you can get from the WoD salvage yard or through a trial account
sharp bluff
hmm, kinda disappointing to hear, even though the legion invasion gear looked sort of ugly, was still nice to get the new set
uncut vault
Btw, glad mounts are still not account wide
grizzled sleet
glad mounts being account wide isn't a good idea for pvp
Like, you want the glad mount on your warlock, no lets earn it on your rogue instead and use it on the warlock
They should remain character-specific
hollow dock
eh
There's positives and negatives to it.
Personally, I see no issue on letting those mounts become account wide like an expansion or two later
but as you said, that issue props up that they kinda lose special stuff
zealous basalt
oof
uncut vault
That was their ideology with honor in Legion
And with the vicious mounts
And it didn’t work very well
Letting the single person use it on whatever character they want doesn’t make it less rare, because it’s still the same limited number of people who have it
whole onyx
When you can skip the Burning of Teldrassil as well 🤔
hollow dock
what
whole onyx
Sorry if its a little old news (and probably off-topic since its on Live now), just realized it after I took like, 3 of my toons through the whole thing lol
whole onyx
It is skippable for part 1.
zealous basalt
He is saying that
hollow dock
The burning hasn't happened yet
zealous basalt
no
hollow dock
yes theya re
dense plover
all of the updated models are in @hollow dock
they always go live with prepatch
even uthers tomb update is live
dense plover
yes
hollow dock
And Cenarius, malorne, none of the other Wild Gods are sticking their heads in....why?
dense plover
because they generally dont do that
uncut vault
No, the third fleet I believe is still at Teldrassil, the rest are still on their way, unless they changed Malfs line to be earlier
hollow dock
In between the second and third wars
dense plover
also theyre probably still recovering from EN
dense plover
its only been like what, 10 months since EN?
hollow dock
Grom isn't fel afflicted or drunk yet
he's just an orc cuttin down some trees
Wild god sticks his neck in for his night elf allies
Why isn't that being done here?
zealous basalt
Because
Probably it's not that a danger to the world?
that of a danger*
This is just...a horde v alliance war
zealous basalt
But he became a danger later?
zealous basalt
That or, they just don't really want to get in
Besides, what doesn't guarantee that they will actually survive the encounter?
do*)
not doesnt
hollow dock
who guaranteed that they'd survive against the legion
against grom and the orcs
fuckin none
Ashenvale is just as much their home as it is the night elves
tropic trail
He threatened the nearby humans, that's really it
zealous basalt
But they aren't assaulting Ashenvale
hollow dock
Uh
That massive war march that destroyed most of ashenvale
and guess what
Ashenvale
isn't that small patch
zealous basalt
It can be healed later
hollow dock
Darkshore is apart of Ashenvale
ashenvale forest stretches from Mount Hyjal all the way to feralas
tropic trail
Go to sleep
zealous basalt
The night elves are a past thing, Vris
zealous basalt
Just why the sudden vent?
hollow dock
Because new information has come in
that further fuels the improbability of this whole invasion
zealous basalt
This is not the same horde.
tropic trail
Is someone trying to dismiss us?
zealous basalt
It is not
tropic trail
DEUS VULT
terse patrol
This prepatch gear sure is nice. 
hollow dock
under
Orgrim
is the same dude
that murdered someones kids
under Thrall
That person DIDN'T CHANGE just because leadership did
zealous basalt
And you are aware that now they have death knights?
Like
Those death knights that care little about nature and can turn anything into wastelands?
hollow dock
There aren't any Deathknights in Darkshore except the PCs as far as Im aware
zealous basalt
There are not pallies there either or other races?
terse patrol
Pretty sure, TECHNICALLY, the Ebon Blade are both on the Horde and Alliances shitlist.
terse patrol
We can do quests simple due to mechanics
hollow dock
Ebon Blade is ONLY TRUSTED because of Tirion's word
grizzled sleet
So the horde is the same that attacked Theramore under Garrosh, so ALL horde must be exterminated.
DEATH TO THE HORDE, I FIGHT FOR JAINA
tropic trail
Wtf are we even debating
hollow dock
I'm pointing out how improbable this whole war is
tropic trail
I see this argument going into different directions
hollow dock
Mak wants to dismiss all my claims
zealous basalt
She is just pissed because her elves are dying
hollow dock
even though I point out time and time again that in any other circumstance
things are different
tropic trail
The night elves make up most of the alliance's archers
zealous basalt
And I don't know if you are to date Vrist
But in this moment the horde would be getting pushed out from Darkshore
grizzled sleet
night elves archers are useless
hollow dock
It's not. It's right now the alliance getitng pushed in
zealous basalt
In the horde side it says that the Alliance are pushing them out slowly
hollow dock
They're at the wildbend river fighting
tropic trail
Ree?
terse patrol
Was expecting some thematic gear like we got in the Legion prepatch
zealous basalt
I believe that they were nerfed
And that's why i don't get the sudden venting
Just live with the fact that they aren't as good as they were?
That's good for your health
terse patrol
Cenarius and the Wild Gods frown real hard at the Horde.
Cenarius does a Night Elf flag overlay on his Facebook profile
hollow dock
(X) doubt
terse patrol
"thoughts and prayers"
zealous basalt
"Cenarius is good from: Burning of Teldrassil"
zealous basalt
i want a burger now
These adds
I got lied to
Someone said that there were no quests from Alliance part of Pre-patch
grizzled sleet
So now, all world trees except Nordrassil are down / corrupted right?
zealous basalt
Ye
hollow dock
and that won't last I bet
hollow dock
Theyre horde
restive sage
ya know
hollow dock
they attack shit just because theyt hink it'll cause an issue
zealous basalt
There isn't a foot way to Nordrassil, right?
...Again
What did golden eyes mean in the night elves?
zealous basalt
poor girl
grizzled sleet
Great future / destiny 
ruby star
fucking hobos
I'm sure the night elves will get a new home in a later expansion
Though surely the Worgen can go back to Gilneas?
didn't they retake it?
(I could be wrong)
hollow dock
they didn;t
dense plover
probably
grizzled sleet
probably
ruby star
I swear I saw it somewhere saying they did
dense plover
its a zone that could earn blizz a lot of bonus points as a warfront
and then as an actual city after the warfront
ruby star
i think it was gamepedia
zealous basalt
Isn't in Forsaken control atm?
ruby star
Gilneas participated in the Battle for Lordaeron. The Bloodfang Pack also established a foothold once more on Fenris Isle after defeating Deathstalker Hayward, leading to the Forsaken needing to pull their forces out of position in order to evacuate across the Lake.[29][30] At the same time, Darius Crowley is leading an offensive into Hillsbrad.[31] The 7th Legion has also sent aid to Gilneas, led by Master Sergeant Pietro Zaren (who has somehow survived being attacked in Gilneas City), surrounding Shadowfang Keep, which is in the hands of Forsaken Apothecaries attempting to unleash a much more potent strain of blight upon the Gilneans to the south under the leadership of Chief Plaguebringer Harris.[32][33]
The Horde also moves towards the Arathi Highlands and attempts to take control of the city of Stromgarde in order to prevent the Alliance to obtain full control over the Eastern Kingdoms, and also to use Stromgarde as a launching point to attack the restored Gilneas.[34]
grizzled sleet
They must do something about Quel'Thalas / Azuremyst Isle too to bring them out of the BC maps and allow flying
zealous basalt
Check the reference
ruby star
By Battle for Azeroth, the kingdom appears to have been restored enough to the capacity that it requires Stromgarde to be taken by the Horde before the Horde can assault it. In addition, several forces have already mobilized from Gilneas, such as the Bloodfang Pack, whom claim Fenris Isle again, and Darius Crowley, who leads an assault into Hillsbrad.
not sure where they got this info from
zealous basalt
Oh!
ruby star
so I guess that semi confirms the alliance have taken it back
Also I think they retake it in the @zealous basalt Mission table story
grizzled sleet
I would love to see that moment when you're in the middle of Gilneas queuing for pvp battleground and when it procs it's Battle for Gilneas
ruby star
like the missions you send followers on has lore importance
^ https://beta.wowdb.com/garrison/missions/1883-lordamere-lake#26433-26476
^ https://beta.wowdb.com/garrison/missions/1927-lordamere-lake#26433-26476
^ https://beta.wowdb.com/garrison/missions/1921-gilnean-assult#26433-26476
^ https://beta.wowdb.com/garrison/missions/1888-shadowfang-plague#26433-26476
^ https://beta.wowdb.com/garrison/missions/1932-shadowfang-plague#26433-26476
zealous basalt
Kek
ruby star
would be nice if they eventually update gilneas to show it's been retaken
grizzled sleet
But if alliance reclaim Gilneas, horde need a new capital city too
zealous basalt
Thinking in one?
grizzled sleet
Kezan?
ruby star
though Minig they might not update it
zealous basalt
...
Alliance and Horde have the same number of quests?
Don't count the preparations
And start from Ashenvale
grizzled sleet
I don't know where the preparations end
zealous basalt
Everybody has a price
ruby star
welll it looks like they are updating the main world Slowey when areas become relevant again (barrens and arathi, uthers tomb) so hopefully we'll see other zones get updated when they become relevant
We don;'t get lordaeron
it gets blighted
grizzled sleet
Yea, but later
zealous basalt
We don't know
If this blight is the same as the past ones
Probably she unleashed a permablight
ruby star
though it doesn't look perma
restive sage
yer boi
ruby star
in the scenario it turned into blue mist (could be a bug) but didn't look exactly like a bug
when Jaina appears
and teleports ship in or whatever she does
restive sage
o.o
ruby star
Jaina is a badass
restive sage
pfft
ruby star
https://twitter.com/pcgamer/status/1021882737815445504 sighs at PC gamer
restive sage
i mean
zealous basalt
it's not the first article that is bad either
ruby star
the guys an idiot whoever wrote it
zealous basalt
The prepatch is not like the past one because
1.- it's not about azeroth getting invaded
restive sage
r u mad that he said the prepatch content is boring
zealous basalt
No?
grizzled sleet
Meh, when blizzard do something for players,they expect it everytime, legion invasions was a one time thing that boosted leveling etc, and now they expect more
zealous basalt
You had one or two quests every week
restive sage
i still dont get
ruby star
His whole article was just terrible honestly, it being time gated is good
restive sage
what makes this article bad
zealous basalt
The invasions started getting better just like...2 weeks before the expansion
If it wasn't timegated
People would be crying because it was short
restive sage
can i get an anwer to my question
restive sage
redaction?
zealous basalt
mhm
restive sage
what is redaction
grizzled sleet
Oh you know, when someone write something like this, its only to bring your attention, just look at the "YOU BETA BELIEVE IT" part
zealous basalt
And what they want to actually say
In short
He is one of those people that
In few words
grizzled sleet
zealous basalt
said "Oh no, prepatch so bad, legion was best, no way to boost characters for free"
restive sage
he just said its boring
grizzled sleet
And they already confirmed long ago and also recently that thre is nothing like legion prepatch
restive sage
that doesnt mean it isnt boring
zealous basalt
...
grizzled sleet
I will tell you something
zealous basalt
What is this?
The gear in my monk
Is higher than in my dk?
Like the gear from the dailes
restive sage
seems like hes just saying
grizzled sleet
Legion prepatch was boring for those who had multiple max level chars.
BFA prepatch is boring for people not interested with reputation and gearing new leveled alts
restive sage
that since we are just getting quests that take like 15 minutes to complete a week, its boring
zealous basalt
Quite the army init?
It's not like you are going to kill orcs from there ma'am.
grizzled sleet
Isn't night elves immortals with Nordrassil? why are they dying?
grizzled sleet
How does Nordrassil make them immortal?
grizzled sleet
not all aspects it seems
zealous basalt
Although the bless you want to target here is the one from Nozdormu
That was the bless that made them "timeless"
grizzled sleet
So
tropic trail
They were never "immortal" in the sense of "unkillable"
grizzled sleet
they are no longer immortals?
tropic trail
just "ageless"
zealous basalt
Well
grizzled sleet
humm
zealous basalt
With Darnassus
They are again
Now
Without it
I think they won't be ageless anymore
Unless they are still conected to Nordrassil
tropic trail
That's wrong. Teldrassil was never blessed with the blessing of Noz
They lost that with the End of Wc3
tropic trail
I'm pretty sure that was just Alex and Ysera
zealous basalt
At the beggining, ye
grizzled sleet
Nordrassil : The power was unleashed after the Battle of Mount Hyjal and Nordrassil was devastated by this event. By Cataclysm, Nordrassil has regrown, but Nozdormu's lost blessing never returned.
Teldrassil : Teldrassil was eventually blessed by Alexstrasza and Ysera years later, but not by Nozdormu.
Teldrassil : was an unsuccessful attempt by Archdruid Fandral Staghelm and his compatriots to restore the night elves' immortality, lost with the near destruction of Nordrassil.
hollow dock
they can die of old age now essentially
grizzled sleet
Humm
hollow dock
They got Alexstrasza's blessing of life and Ysera's blessing of nature
but not timeless of Nozdormu
so that life would thrive and that the tree wouldn't corrupt the area around it
tropic trail
And whatever Malygos put on Nordrassil wasn't renewed either
zealous basalt
magicz
grizzled sleet
AL'KSH IIR AWAN? IILTH SYTHN AGEV.
zealous basalt
wat in tarnation
grizzled sleet
But
Malfurion said 'King Anduin will send his solders to aid us"
Did they come?
hollow dock
We dont know
On beta, the idea was that the night elf fleet from Silithus comes in to late
and the tree burns
but now on live
the Silithus fleet is here
grizzled sleet
So, maybe the solders are in the cinematic
hollow dock
so. Maybe it'll be changed to Anduins fleet coming to late?
tropic trail
I'm pretty sure the SW fleet is to late, yes
And get's rerouted to Lordaeron instaed
hollow dock
Yea basically.
grizzled sleet
new beta build?
uncut vault
small, 72mb
sharp bluff
this is interesting, horde Side you can see Sylvanas yelling in distress when peons rush to there death
zinc sandal
Why wouldn’t she?
sharp bluff
more of a surprise to see her show emotion, she has been emotionless lately
tropic trail
Well, being on the stoic side is not that unusual for undeads
uncut vault
ey, they changed Sylvanas' odd remark
she correctly calls herself ranger-general now
zealous basalt
And what did she call herself b4?
uncut vault
ranger lord
zealous basalt
oof
scenic field
Meow
uncut vault
removed the horde player forcing the furbolg leaders to submit too
now we just kill corrupted ones
hollow dock
I mean.
@sharp bluff She then kinda scoffs in disgust. She doesnt' want to lose men she can't later raise as dead.
sharp bluff
see that is the thing Vris, why would she not be able to raise them
hollow dock
Purged of their spirits by the whisps.
sharp bluff
they only died to a wisp wall, the body is fine
hollow dock
Sylvanas isn't a lich
she can't pull spirits out of nowhere. She needs their spirits still there
sharp bluff
She raises thralls, you don't need spirits for thralls, same as a DK
hollow dock
The undead that DKs raise is shoddy
since
some are sentient
like our Belchers and Ghouls and Giests and even Skeletons
tulip sun
sharp bluff
only the one, unholy artifact one, as far as I know has sentience
and that was, i am pretty sure, an acident
whats his face
sharp bluff
we raised him with LK powers though didn't we?
hollow dock
Uh. Thassarian raised his skeleton back in the DK manga
we even do quests for him on the alliance side
the skeleton that is
sharp bluff
isn't he a first gen though? wait first gen were the wierd ones
orc souls in human bodies
tropic trail
I wish they didn't update the spider models
sharp bluff
never mind
hollow dock
Thassarian is a third gen
sharp bluff
here we go Lurid is the name
restive sage
r we talking about pokemon
sharp bluff
Lurid seems weird though Vris, I mean he was raised twice
not sure what to think about that
sharp bluff
says the forsaken DK who has been raised x amount of times at this point
hollow dock
So are forsaken DKs
sharp bluff
I agree there, but I don't think about LK magic at this point
Worgen DK I think fall under the same category as Forsaken DK, makes no sense
hollow dock
not really
sharp bluff
but that is a separate thing all together
hollow dock
Worgen DK are explained
sharp bluff
LK magic
hollow dock
and why the Gilnean worgen that fight the Forsaken in cataclysm
are resilient
but Arugals Worgen
aren't
Arugal never gave them the elune ritual
they were just wild cursed beasts
So when the LK rose Arugal, Arugal's pack was susceptipal to necromancy.
sharp bluff
Ok, just guessing here, but it looks like Lurid is dead, so maybe there is a limit to raising ones with intelligence?
hollow dock
While the Gilnean worgen during the starting zone are heavily resilient to undeath and necromancy thanks to the Scythe of Elune and the ritual they undergo
It's unclear as to whether or not that's true though
sharp bluff
no clue on it though, I kinda just wrote it off as a plot character being stronger then us
which, happens a lot
hollow dock
It does. But most of these things do get, albiet half-assed, explanations
hollow dock
The gilnean worgen tha tunderwent the ritual to tame the beast are
However, the wild worgen of Arugal's pack aren't
sharp bluff
touched by Elune, aka sorta protected by her
sharp bluff
light touched I guess would be the best way to describe it?
hollow dock
might be a reason why she doesn't want her soldiers being killed by whisps
since whisps do have ties to Elune
tropic trail
Looks at Archimonde
sharp bluff
that is true, I did not think of that at first
tropic trail
I thought it was because they're bombs.
hollow dock
Archimonde wasn't raised through undeath.
hollow dock
its not even really plot magic tbh
tropic trail
And I never said that Archimonde was undead
hollow dock
we already knew that demons regenerate in the twisting nether
long before WoD made archimonde come back
sharp bluff
speaking of dead things, do we have any info on the Infinite Dragonflight appearing in BFA yet?
dense plover
nope
hollow dock
None so far
dense plover
i hope they do eventually
hollow dock
really hope they didn't just drop that plot point
summer cobalt
why would they be in BfA
sharp bluff
Chromie thing was 112 I think
dense plover
^
but weve seen nothing of it
theres some dragon stuff in the island expeditions, but no infinite dragon stuff
so its just a bit weird
i mean
maybe we cant meet our past self in the future
so maybe we will see stuff about this later?
making it 120 content
hollow dock
didn't blizzard say in some interview about that, that the levels weren't really meant to mean anything?
just that it took place in the future?
zealous basalt
ye
dense plover
maybe?
i mean even if they didnt
youre not supposed to meet yourself
so it could still have happened already
but we have to wait
uncut vault
wrathion will probably be our best indication of when it happens, whenever we see him again
grizzled sleet
The 'Bounty Hunter' and 'Air Supply Drop' features are active in Darkshore, and will be active of course in all Battle for Azeroth zones.
Oh
dense plover
the darkshore thing is a surprise
considering in the patch notes it said only in BfA zones
so i guess they mean wherever bfa content is
sharp bluff
didn't we "meet" ourselves already? (future self)
grizzled sleet
So, we can get the warmode title now?
sharp bluff
somewhere in wotlk if I remember right?
grizzled sleet
Where you have to kill 10 players without dying
dense plover
endtime
but thats a bit different
we were meeting an echo of our future self
who knew our past self would be there
where in chromie stuff we are taken into the future and leveled up and stuff
so that would be like meeting alternate future you
which in wow stuff could be bad for time
so idk
¯_(ツ)_/¯
uncut vault
if you mean assassin, thats not a title, its an active effect
zealous basalt
15%boost
sharp bluff
honestly, most stuff is bad for time in wow
uncut vault
they removed the RP server specific rules for war mode, which makes me sad
zealous basalt
what were those?
sharp bluff
and most alternate versions are bad for wow 😆 remember Jaina's "flood half the world" alt version?
grizzled sleet
@uncut vault I'm talking about the Horde Slayer / The Alliance Slayer title
You get it by killing 10 players without dying
zealous basalt
Where Kalec was one of the survivors that got mad?
grizzled sleet
It's a quest, look at this video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIaQRKXwC3M
Not sure if we can get the quest now in the pre-patch
uncut vault
Oh its a post-assassin thing, that makes sense
probably can, though it might be tied to Kul Tiras/Zandalar
grizzled sleet
Okay
dense plover
i thought the achieve was killing a certain number of assassins in the different zones
zealous basalt
hmm whats the likenes of that five headed dragon coming back?
restive sage
cant w8 for new pvp season too start
zealous basalt
why tho
restive sage
going for that big war riverbeast boi
restive sage
dont you just have to win like 40 rbgs
restive sage
yea it is
its a vicious war mount
gotta get that big boi and gotta try to get the long boi of course
im only 5 mil gold short
zealous basalt
oof
steep eagle
restive sage
😃
jade basalt
uncut vault
its an island expedition set
uncut vault
mhm, dragonrider's legguards
uncut vault
yeah full set looks normal
jade basalt
A new age for slutmogs
zealous basalt
the chest gives tattoos
uncut vault
an obtainable pair of pants in game
the in game models dont actually have booties, for the most part
heavy cairn
not obtainable yet, but in bfa unless it gets altered before.
zealous basalt
Why?
heavy cairn
afaik the set is perfectly fine for the T rating.
zealous basalt
Ye
heavy cairn
no reason to remove the pants
zealous basalt
Because the belt covers the pants
...Tho that might be one hell of unconforable ste
restive sage
lol
uncut vault
Most belts cover part of the exposed part regardless
zealous basalt
...I wonder how would this look with those modifications to characters that I won't say here.
restive sage
😦
idk man
i just think it looks bizarre
cant be just me that thinks no bewty looks weird
restive sage
that is tru
restive sage
what
rich apex
booty
zealous basalt
females
restive sage
yea thats man bewty
restive sage
nothing beats draenai bewty tho
tropic trail
Makore booty
restive sage
uhhhh
night swift
uhh
true matrix
truly incredible
unborn pagoda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO8k4glSAIY its game datas... and they have same skeleton as thin cultirans ... any confirm? (i'll stay with old posture, but still)
meager warren
hi, mei o/
uncut vault
that animation is for the thin kul tirans, only reason it works on undead women is because of the same skeleton
true matrix
hey arson \o
meager warren
o/
calm plank
I was wondering if there's any chances for Playable Sethraks?
uncut vault
There are chances, nothing is confirmed, but there’s plenty of community demand and proper race setup in their story.
calm plank
ye boi
uncut vault
anyone know what this dude's for?
level 120, added in prepatch
dragonmaw orc
he's in both phases of silithus
calm plank
Dunno who he is but it can't be good