Like
#beta-ptr-spoilers
zealous basalt
Artifacts were the source of all our power
I dislike the idea of being
Really op
hollow dock
We're going back to war.
grizzled sleet
@zealous basalt no not just artifacts
restive sage
r we gonna fight sargeras ever
zealous basalt
High ilvl?
hollow dock
no
last condor
It's like a Mary Sue
hollow dock
we aren't
zealous basalt
Thats good
restive sage
dang
hollow dock
and Iks
restive sage
that would be epic
zealous basalt
I prefer to be just a soldier
hollow dock
the PC of every MMO is the definition of a mary sue
restive sage
imagine a raidboss that big
zealous basalt
The only way I see us fighting sargeras
hollow dock
player character
zealous basalt
is not in a mmo
last condor
Day 1 vanilla we were thinking of how powerful the ability hamstring and rupture was. We were soldiers. Look at the opening of Ahn'quiraj. Look at C'thun on release. We struggled fighting corrupted minions of a sleeping god
restive sage
there could be a way
hollow dock
mercs
zealous basalt
Well
zealous basalt
Tbh C'thun bodied us
restive sage
i mean
last condor
We spent literal MONTHS opening AQ gates
zealous basalt
We needed a damn patch
hollow dock
that doesn't make us any less of mary sues
we do the impossible
time and time again
we do the unthinkable
time and time again
hollow dock
We have to. we're the protagonists of an MMO
grizzled sleet
For example our fight with Argus, all titans helped us, one gave us buffs in Phase 1, another removed the corruption in phase 2, Amanthul sent Argus somewhere with his time thing, then another showed the weakness of adds in phase 3, Eonar helped us in phase 4, and when you collect orbs you get that buff from the titans. We are not that powerful
tropic trail
We're the Chris Angel of heroes
hollow dock
^
zealous basalt
Like for example
tropic trail
M i n d f r e a k
last condor
lol
zealous basalt
Thrall ganked
last condor
Is deathwing actually dead? I didn't follow the lore on that one
zealous basalt
He is
tropic trail
Thrall gave Deathwing a heart burn from hell
zealous basalt
Like
last condor
I thought he was just sucked into the maelstrom
zealous basalt
Well
hollow dock
yes he is
tropic trail
We took pieces of him
hollow dock
100% dead
zealous basalt
The graphics are limited
last condor
Do we KNOW he's dead?
zealous basalt
He just
hollow dock
we literally
zealous basalt
poofed
hollow dock
obliterated him
last condor
lol
hollow dock
he is space dust
last condor
Gotcha
zealous basalt
I expected gore
hollow dock
you can't ocme back from space dust
tropic trail
Stormwind and Orgrimmar have bits of him
last condor
Tell that to the voidlords
zealous basalt
REKT
tropic trail
Voidlords are my daddy
zealous basalt
got*)
grizzled sleet
Space dust ? what about space goats?
zealous basalt
Oh, diablo 3 is another thing
last condor
The first squish was literally because the GAME couldn't handle it
hollow dock
Numbers are numbers
zealous basalt
Ye
hollow dock
mate
zealous basalt
The numbers were overflowing
last condor
You walked in on a boss and his life got cut by like 85%
That was a problem
We don't have that issue anymore
tropic trail
Yeah, I like numbers covering everything
last condor
No I mean literal interger overflow lol
hollow dock
^
last condor
Things had over 32 billion health
hollow dock
And?
zealous basalt
Almost reaching the limit
hollow dock
r K
zealous basalt
Overflow it and we won't be able to kill stuff
hollow dock
that's all I need
last condor
they were overflowing into having less than 5% life
tropic trail
I wanted to see some Ts
grizzled sleet
i want to see dps number just like artifact power numbers
hollow dock
I want to see DPS numbers like we had pre-squish
last condor
That's..not how C# works
last condor
If something had: 2,147,483,650 life, It would have 2 hp
hollow dock
Give me Terra/Diablo 3 numbers over these shitty 1k procs any day of the week
last condor
In the way WoWs programmed
We use a 64-bit interger system now so that's not an issue anymore
zealous basalt
Ye
last condor
but it was for the 1st squish
tropic trail
First squish wasn't anything major though
It wasn't as big as the most recent squish
zealous basalt
they fixed it with garrosh at least
But then they decided that it would be too hard to do stuff
grizzled sleet
This squish was needed, not just for numbers, there was too many diffference between item levels between expansions
tropic trail
And between tiers
zealous basalt
But Vris has a problem with numbers, I think vris wants a compensation
last condor
I don't like their 15 ilvl difference between tiers
tropic trail
We climbed like what, 200+ ilvls in Legion?
last condor
980ish?
grizzled sleet
Don't count it from 800
last condor
best geared person in my guild is 974.6
grizzled sleet
start from 850
tropic trail
780 is more accurate
zealous basalt
well
uncut vault
we're doing the same amount of numbers as legion, just squashed down
zealous basalt
tbh you could have an 800 gear from day 1
tropic trail
That's where most people were at 110
uncut vault
200 per xpac seems to be the norm now
zealous basalt
Porter
grizzled sleet
800 => 850 was needed for normal / heroic / mythic dungeons
last condor
Well, let's look at heroic-capable, to top end gear in BFA: 300 is where you start, 385 is the top end, I think?
tropic trail
Good
hollow dock
that's kinda the important thing.
tropic trail
I hated climbing 200+ ilvl
last condor
then 60 ilvls per tier
uncut vault
ilvls are basically the same as legion, just a 3 instead of an 8 at the beginning
hollow dock
feeling powerful
last condor
I think that's a bit crazy lol
hollow dock
Actaully
385
being the end
is more than Legions end
wasn't it?
for the first raid
grizzled sleet
it was 885 Mythic EN
uncut vault
EN gave 885
last condor
Only difference is helms, shoulders, neck and chest can't be titanforged
hollow dock
No no,
zealous basalt
But they get a +5
tropic trail
I never got titanforge anyways
hollow dock
normal pieces still drop
last condor
...Yes vris that's what I said lol
hollow dock
You hadn't said Azerite gear
zealous basalt
...
last condor
...
hollow dock
[8:09 PM] Iks: Only difference is helms, shoulders, neck and chest can't be titanforged no where does it state
azerite gear
grizzled sleet
hollow dock
m8
last condor
๐คฆ
tropic trail
Implications can be made, dear.
hollow dock
No? There are still non-azerite helmets that drop
last condor
Vris likes arguing lol
zealous basalt
But do they lightforge?
last condor
Where? I haven't seen any in appearance tab
hollow dock
they do titanforge.
zealous basalt
The greenies?
hollow dock
the purples.
grizzled sleet
@zealous basalt Lightforged Azerite gear for Draenei ?
last condor
There's epic non-azerite pieces for helm/shoulders/neck/chest?
tropic trail
Did someone say Voidforged?
grizzled sleet
There is green gear chest / helmet / shoulders that drop from mobs
and it's not azerite gear
last condor
I just assumed they were all azerite pieces
zealous basalt
And it is irrelevant tbh
hollow dock
nonazerite
last condor
Greens can warforged/titanforged?
zealous basalt
Go 2 sleep vris
grizzled sleet
Click on Azerite Powers
hollow dock
Oh they updated
zealous basalt
Yes
hollow dock
Huh.
zealous basalt
They updated everything
grizzled sleet
Only nony-azerite are greens dropping from trash
zealous basalt
And those are irrelevant
last condor
as far as I know, greens can't warforge/titanforge?
grizzled sleet
They can
zealous basalt
Now that's shitty rng
hollow dock
huh. my bad then.
last condor
I can see it now, ilvl 885 green shoulders lol
hollow dock
thought they weren't only azerite gear.
last condor
Talking about warforged, not the random quest proc
grizzled sleet
They can't titanforge to 385
Legion greens drop with 780+ ilvl
they can't titanforge to 885
zealous basalt
chicken
grizzled sleet
Dinner titanforge?
zealous basalt
But ye
I think a stat squish is good
Though it is sad that
In some expacts later
we will reach those points again
grizzled sleet
Did you just say future ?
There is no future
Only sleep
Nyalotha !
zealous basalt
Or they would probably finish WoW before that happens
hollow dock
Since pretty soon, the gear will get so slow while leveling, that it just doesn't feel good to level.
uncut vault
I think I just found the most crackpot theory imaginable
zealous basalt
...some are really trashy like Outlands
uncut vault
taelia = wrathion
zealous basalt
...
zealous basalt
WRATHION IS A TRAP?
grizzled sleet
How?
hollow dock
top 10 anime betrayals
zealous basalt
"Some words to say?"
And boom
black princes
prince*
inb4 anduin "This makes it better"
tropic trail
I'd
hollow dock
like Chromie possibly is
urban dew
Wrathion is a reverse trap
hollow dock
or arygos
urban dew
Dear god
hollow dock
Arygos is the original trap in WoW btw
zealous basalt
Wait wat?
hollow dock
he's a male blue dragon that shows up as a gnome female
tropic trail
What about the orc in Timeless Caverns?
hollow dock
Arygos was in vanilla.
uncut vault
very bearded woman
last condor
go to sleep vris
tropic trail
Go to sleep Vris
grizzled sleet
Taelia marry Anduin, but Wrathion will take her place, and they will make Black Varian
hollow dock
I don't need sleep
tropic trail
Black Gul'dan?
hollow dock
Arygos used to have a female gnome model
tropic trail
2 minutes*
zealous basalt
Time's up
zealous basalt
Thats andorgos
hollow dock
not arygos
zealous basalt
Go 2 sleep
tropic trail
The orc is a trap
tropic trail
Go to the right parts of the internet and she can be whatever you want her to be
zealous basalt
Oh yeh bby
tropic trail
I need some emotional support from Chromie, "Oh sorry, I only do ERP."
grizzled sleet
What if Delaryn Summermoon burned Teldrassil?
zealous basalt
Why is that a bad thing
hollow dock
You do realize she dies on the beach
tropic trail
Because Teldrassil burnt down
zealous basalt
Maybe
grizzled sleet
She dies in the cinematic
hollow dock
You can see it
in the two pictures released
she is dying. on the beach
crumbled up
hollow dock
yes most NPCs are
I once more point to the two pictures we have of Teldrassil that depict the burning
grizzled sleet
You don't understand the picture then
hollow dock
next to sylvanas is dela
grizzled sleet
Before burning she's wounded
hollow dock
You're ignoring what I say
grizzled sleet
but alive
hollow dock
so
She's also sitting right next to Sylvanas
how is she burning the tree
while dying
next to Sylvanas
zealous basalt
oof
hollow dock
You do realize that this war happens over the course of three weeks right?
how could she plan for teldrassil to burn
from the beaches of darkshore
uncut vault
Chromie is confirmed to be female through and through, even has a joke about it in HotS
hollow dock
whiledying to Sylvanas
uncut vault
"What? No, I am not a male dragon! Clearly you don't understand the intricacies of dragon culture!"
grizzled sleet
3 weeks in real life isn't 3 weeks in game
hollow dock
More or less, yes it is.
zealous basalt
That's a way to say
that her parents were trolls
Ei
Is the Druid flight form speed nerf an intended thing?
hollow dock
I don't believe so
uncut vault
tropic trail
I wish the monk cloud could get a speed buff
uncut vault
chromies quotes in HotS are amazing btw
uncut vault
I love her lines towards D.Va deathwing, big long 20 second rant, then "wait, you're not neltharion!" "what? sorry, I had voice chat muted"
zealous basalt
oof
No but Port
Is the flight speed of the flight form of druid
bugged in beta?
uncut vault
It shouldnt be, but Ill check
uncut vault
hmm?
grizzled sleet
Quest is called The Guidance of Our Shan'do this is where Teldrassil burn before you complete the quest
Shan'do is Malfurion.
Quest says "We must find our Shan'do and ask for his guidance. He is the only one who can save us."
But Malfurion does nothing in this quest.
Tyrande send us to Darnassus before she use the hearthstone (to ensure we save the citizens)
As you fly Teldrassil burn
Tyrande didn't teleport to Stormwind
She burned Teldrassil at that moment
She also says : This war is lost. Teldrassil will soon fall.
hollow dock
You do realize that she takes her hippogryph and orders us to teldrassil to save people from the horde occupation
horde occupation
She wants her people out of there before the horde arrive
uncut vault
we take her hippogryph
hollow dock
Clearly this means she burned teldrassil? O.o
uncut vault
she leaves before anything starts burning
tropic trail
#NotMyMoonPriestess
grizzled sleet
What if she lied, and it wasn't a stormwind hearthstone. She started healing Malfurion with light before teleporting
uncut vault
Or, what if she did exactly what it says she did, because she wouldnt murder all of her people
tropic trail
Malfurion is a sith lord
tropic trail
uncut vault
looks like it was nerfed 10%, yes
zealous basalt
What if Aszshara is Tyrande
hollow dock
We know that isn't true
grizzled sleet
What if Azshara burned Teldrassil
grizzled sleet
Humm... maybe because she's Azshara
uncut vault
draw out conflict between the two factions as theyre at their tensest, give her forces and Nzoth time to rise
hollow dock
In which I'd have to ask, if she was able to reach teldrassil, why have her naga never attacked it directly?
zealous basalt
What if Garrosh roasted Thrall?
grizzled sleet
@zealous basalt he already did
rich apex
Don't apply too much logic to a WoW plot
N'zoth is acting now instead of in the middle of a Legion invasion because
well
grizzled sleet
@zealous basalt In a story told by Lorewalker Shuchun to Druz and Ziya, Garrosh Hellscream came into possession of the Blank Scroll and used it to create an army of soulless, unkillable orcs that flowed over Kalimdor and caused Teldrassil to topple, burning, into the sea.[6]
hollow dock
he wasn't out of his prison
rich apex
(To be fair, Chronicle notes that N'zoth was directly behind the events of Cata, so he -was- doing something prior to BFA)
zealous basalt
Ooof
hollow dock
and certainly he had to have been behind the resurgence of twilight dragons that could bred
breed*
zealous basalt
"Those titans say dragons can't breed? Watch me saying otherwise"
"C'thun was a noob"
zealous basalt
First one to die ofc
hollow dock
Cthuun isnt dead
hollow dock
Only dead old god is Y'shaarj
grizzled sleet
First one to die isn't C'thun
restive sage
C'thun = old god?
zealous basalt
yep
hollow dock
C'thun is the old god in AQ40
urban dew
Even Y'shaarj might not be fully dead
zinc sandal
He is.
tropic trail
Sha are gone for the most part
restive sage
so, are those shas like the sha of anger um
zinc sandal
He was literally ripped out of the planet. He is gone.
restive sage
what are those
hollow dock
the scars of the sha aren't gone yet, they'll heal over time
restive sage
did we kill someones anger or something
hollow dock
Yes they are
zealous basalt
Monks have to clean some mess
tropic trail
Wardens have some of them imprisoned.
zinc sandal
At this point, they've probably cleaned it all.
zealous basalt
Ye
restive sage
big broom
hollow dock
End of pandaria 100% says the sha are gone.
tropic trail
Quote?
hollow dock
Lorewalker Cho and Emperor Shao Hao
if you killed garrosh
and turned in the quest
he's still there infront of the raids entrance
tropic trail
Still doesn't change the fact that Wardens have some of the sha imprisoned
restive sage
๐ฎ
zinc sandal
They will never be a threat anymore. That's what we care about. Boom.
urban dew
Dead things don't have a beating heart and whisper to you.
grizzled sleet
Some thrash in EN are nightmare Sha, mayb be just a reused model or maybe it's the sha themselves
hollow dock
The seven heads of Y'shaarj are gone. Dead and defeated.
EN reused the sha as nightmare amalgamations
zealous basalt
Tmw there are eight
hollow dock
just models
zealous basalt
gigity
hollow dock
The Sha that threatened Pandaria are gone with the drained heart being that. Drained and destroyed.
tropic trail
The sha are still in the Warden's prisons
zinc sandal
Omg how many times will you say that?
hollow dock
fuck it. why bother talking lore.
night swift
mistweaver staff has a sha corrupted appearance
zealous basalt
Just go 2 sleep vris
tropic trail
That doesn't provide any lore significance Jhock
zealous basalt
He is memeing
night swift
Well yeah but its a thing
zealous basalt
I mean
tropic trail
But yeah, there is still sha
zealous basalt
Can confirm as monk
grizzled sleet
After the last of Y'Shaarj's power was consumed by Garrosh in the Siege of Orgrimmar, the Wild God Yu'lon stated that the sha would eventually fade from existence.[6] However, some sha remnants still exist at Shado-Pan Monastery during the third invasion of the Burning Legion.[19]
zinc sandal
That was almost 2 years ago
tropic trail
I can confirm that too
zinc sandal
At this point no more bits remain, probably
restive sage
thats alot of words
grizzled sleet
After the last of Y'Shaarj's power was consumed by Garrosh in the Siege of Orgrimmar, the Wild God Yu'lon stated that the sha would eventually fade from existence.[6] However, some sha remnants still exist at Shado-Pan Monastery during the third invasion of the Burning Legion.[19]
@zealous basalt
tropic trail
Plus, The wardens still have some imprisoned
zinc sandal
If you say that one more time
tropic trail
THE WARDENS STILL HAVE SOME IMPRISONED
tranquil steeple
zinc sandal
You're dead. pounces
grizzled sleet
The sha bear a strong resemblance to the Spirits and Avatars of Vengeance created by night elf wardens. Both are described as beings of shadow and are created from a person's negative feelings; in the specific case of the Avatar of Vengeance, vendetta.
tranquil steeple
Messlet's face
zinc sandal
The fact that Shadow/Void magic feeds on negative emotions is not recent news.
zinc sandal
/report
zinc sandal
What?
tropic trail
I imprisoned the sha.
grizzled sleet
we didn't explore all vault of the wardens there is a secret room below the elevator, if you try to go there you die because Sha are there
grizzled sleet
tropic trail
Plus, in one of the boss fights, you see some of the sha
Tormentus
Tormentum
Whatever his name is
grizzled sleet
blue sha !
tropic trail
Blue cheese>
tranquil steeple
Y'mean these?
tropic trail
Oui
tranquil steeple
doesn't actually say they're Sha explicitly, but could be, yeah
grizzled sleet
And many players have Gooey Sha-ling a battle pet Sha
It's also sold in the Black Market because you know... it's a Sha
zinc sandal
I have a protoss for a pet. Doesn't mean they exist in WoW.
zinc sandal
I won't. I wish it were true.
tranquil steeple
tbh I think of the sha the same was as the burning legion after.. legion, still around, but going to be gone eventually. player owned battle pets honestly is kinda void since it's just something we could collect with no reason other than owning it (before battle-pet system itself was implemented)
grizzled sleet
I want a Sha of happiness
zinc sandal
A Lightspawn?
grizzled sleet
in the world of lovecraft
tropic trail
I just wish they made the Botani a more prominent threat
tropic trail
If you think though
They were technically stronger than the Iron Horde
Not to mention that a Genesaur also made it onto Azeroth
zinc sandal
And then died
tranquil steeple
because of the kirin tor being unprepared for the threat and not shutting down the portal connected to azeroth
because the forces on the other side where it came from was corrupted
urban dew
It's okay, that portal can help us get Arakkoa
tropic trail
Botani playable race
tranquil steeple
for wow? I'll pass on air combat
urban dew
Botani are dead
zealous basalt
Card games in motorcycles
urban dew
Mag'har killed them all
tropic trail
I want a fucking Toyota in WoW
zealous basalt
I said card games in motorcycles
tranquil steeple
I remember seeing somebody make one of the raptor mounts into a Lamborghini... it looked weird as hell
restive sage
i want 2 play vulpera
tranquil steeple
Enjoy waiting for a long time.
restive sage
pfft
urban dew
Vulpera are all but confirmed in my opinion
grizzled sleet
Birbs are dead
uncut vault
Not all that old, as far as we know
her grandfather at earliest was a ranger in the troll wars, which was less than 3k years ago
urban dew
What do you mean birbs are dead?
steel venture
Sylvanas is the middle-sister. Vereesa is the baby.
Alleria ALSO fought in the Troll Wars, so to put a perspective on her age.
So Sylvanas might have a few centuries on her at least.
uncut vault
Alleria being in the troll wars is both dubious and VERY old lore
Legion stuff especially contradicts it a lot
steel venture
Until we get a firm, "No, she wasn't apart of it." The reference taken from the Warcraft Encyclopedia stands for now, even if it's older material.
Some aspects of her timeline are very wonky, but still nothing directly contradicts the Troll Wars claim.
zealous basalt
Did it appear on Chronicles?
dense plover
^
dont think it did
and at this point, warcraft encyclopedia has so many wrong things, we cant say its canon
uncut vault
Tales of the Hunt also essentially retcons it
Alleria didnt become a farstrider until after her mothers death, when she took up thas'dorah
steel venture
I hate that Wowpedia doesn't properly cite the artifact books hhh.
I always forget about Tales of the Hunt.
uncut vault
Talanas Windrunner also basically replaced all her deeds during the troll wars
renowned windrunner who hunts trolls down
steel venture
Forest trols =/= jungle trolls.
The bulk of the Amani forces also =/= the Revantusk who're Horde allies.
solid sparrow
Needs more high elves.
urban dew
Birbs
sullen dagger
the max we can do is do the sargeras sword thingy in silithus, right?
urban dew
Yeah
sullen dagger
or am i missing prepatch content?
urban dew
Teldrassil starts this upcoming tuesday
sullen dagger
nice
i'm super confused with the schedule of the prepacth / launch
and when i asked in my guild when we will start raiding they just said "when the raid opens"
duh
urban dew
Uldir opens up 3 weeks after launch, so if you're all geared up, then that's when you can go
But pre-patch has 3 story parts before launch
Upcoming Tuesday is Teldrassil part 1
sullen dagger
nice
do you know if the energy to sargeras sword thingy is needed to do the prepatch?
urban dew
Not sure
sullen dagger
๐ค
urban dew
I assume you'd need to follow through with the Silithus storyline first
But you might be able to jump right into Teldrassil
urban dew
Won't know until tuesday man, so you got some time
sullen dagger
yepper
will do the silithius quest with some alts just in case
thanks for the info man
๐
uncut vault
what an odd bug/change
on my troll druid, live and beta since Ive gotten the form, the werebear form slash has looked like this
on my RP druid alt, it looks like this, only on him
tropic trail
For anyone who has tested this. Do you still need the 10k rep for the Paragon mounts from Legion? And are they 100% drop rate after Legion ends? Gonna be annoying to go back and keep farming them
ruby star
I was showed this, it's rather interesting (https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/90tlwn/it_looks_like_you_guys_liked_gilneas_so_i_made/)
uncut vault
Saw that too, some good concepts but
Azshara and the naga need to be their own area, Quel'thalas has enough politics and lore of its own to warrant its own story
Also seems very inconsistent with where lore stuff actually is, and how the faction bases are so scattered
two massive seas taking up a third of the zone would also not be enjoyable
I do think things like a new thas'alah, a forsaken settlement, and more elven towns is a good idea though
ruby star
though it's just a concept/idea the person made, it's not what the actually thing would look like, Blizzard would of course put their own spin on it, and change it
uncut vault
Well, the idea of the naga being there is pretty important in their description
which I would very much dislike
tropic trail
Wel, it mainly lacks the isle of Quel'danas (which is like the most important place in Qual'thalas bar none)
strange falcon
it implodes
zealous basalt
Oof
ruby star
@zealous basalt what do you think of that guys concept? I also understand @uncut vault concern about the naga stuff tbh
zealous basalt
That's quel thalas after an event about the Nagas?
Well, I dont know...why could the Nazjstar entrance be in quel thalas?
ruby star
I have no idea why it's there either, but perhaps Azhsara launches an attack on quel'thalas (perhaps old gods/void commanded it idk)
not sure why nazajtar entrance is in quel'thalas
zealous basalt
Teleport?
zealous basalt
Doesnt seem likely coming from Aszhara
To just drop a direct teleport to her palace in an enemy land
I mean, if it would go instead to a Nazjatar zone
ruby star
Yeah, I mean I have no idea tbh (about Nazajtar entrance being in the Quel'thalas area) but Iagreee why would she leave a teleport thing there
zealous basalt
Unless she thinks about a safe victory
ruby star
Yeah, I mean there could be a huge void/old god invasion, old gods/void attack sunwell, while azshara attacks Quel'thalas, making the blood elf & nightobrne troops weak (having to defend two key area) don't forget the alliance invasion they have to defend from too
so I think Azshara and old gods/void would use this as the ultimate time to strike
sullen dagger
it will stay forever as meme channel
zealous basalt
As the Vris go to sleep channel
steel venture
Azshara isn't stupid enough to plop a portal in enemy turf. Just, period.
She wouldn't let us go to her easily, she'd make sure her forces can get out there to strike us first.
steel venture
I'd assume in preperation for Nazjatar (which I feel like would be the Broken Shore of BFA)
She'd assault Kul Tiras and Zandalar's coasts at once, since the Naga forces are practically unending whilst she raises Nazjatar from the sea.
Keep us busy to lock down her seat of power.
zealous basalt
Though
If she was more intelligent she would just let the Alliance and horde destroy eachother
I think she is going to get forced to act by some reason
ruby star
well Alliance invading Quel'thalas is the perfect opportunity for her to strike
both sides won't expect it
zealous basalt
Yeah but that would be just minutes of victory
Then she would be repealed along her forces
karmic copper
it doesnt really make sense that we enter nazjatar from quel'thalas
ruby star
either way, we're defeating Azhsara in 8.1 or supposedly we are so her forces need to be weakened down some time
sullen dagger
and then we will face the voi... i mean the horde
restive sage
-_-
zealous basalt
We face the boi
viral terrace
@ruby star We might weaken down her forces following up to 8.1
Like, a pre-patch event
or something
ruby star
Aye, though it's really hard to predict BFA tbh, I feel like blizzard might be going big. perhaps we'll get 3 or 2 extra major patches
viral terrace
They said that they content updates would sort of match Legion
ruby star
the patch cycle yeah (77 days in between each patch) i don;t think they said how many patches they'd have
clever ember
They said that the 77 days thing wasn't intended. So it may not be like that in BfA.
ruby star
Ah
lime kiln
Even if it wasn't intended, the patch cycle should be more or less, but still close to the 80 day mark. It seems reasonable.
clever ember
Yeah, they want a similar patch cycle to what we had in legion. Just donโt count on the 77 days thing to carry over it could be more, could be less.
dense plover
probably more if i took a guess
clever ember
My assumption too. Im just excited for new content. Iโll take what I can get. ๐
tropic trail
So does thanos die in bfa?
rich apex
jovial coral
Would make sense to have enough patches to last till 2020 imo
Cause 2020 xpac would hopefully be legendary cause "2020"
zealous basalt
Next chronicles will retcon Cenarius desth to orcs
Instead of fel orcs
Cenarius was killed by towers
After being kitted
I has proof
tranquil steeple
I'm not even ashamed of saying that I cheated the WC3 campaign where you kill Cenarius, by giving myself infinite money and sped up construction/training
grizzled sleet
When I look at Mythic 340 ilvl azerite gear and it says 1150 for example, is this 1150 shown scaled to 110 or this is the number at lvl 120 ?
I can't verify on beta because I didn't update it recently :x anyone can tell me?
grizzled sleet
but the tooltip shown doesn't scale to 110?
grizzled sleet
seems like the numbers are too low
dense plover
no
340 is low level mythic
385 is mythic+15
and number increases by small amounts mean a lot more
grizzled sleet
Okay I see
untold fractal
this already started?
whole onyx
Infested affix is not active atm.
for Live servers
It still follows the Legion format.
dense plover
yeah, but the first affix at 2 is already active, yes
dense plover
not really
the base code for the way mythic affixes work was changed
base code changes go live
ruby star
pre patch event starts tomorrow right?
verbal badger
if you're from the US yeah
uncut vault
Only one we know about is the Sylvanas/Teldrassil short for week 2
we might get azshara's short tomorrow though
urban dew
Only new cinematic is next week?
uncut vault
week 2 of war of the thorns, I mean
urban dew
Damn
I was hoping to see something else other than Deathwing getting blasted out of the sky
viral terrace
@verbal badger On the EU realms, it says it also starts tomorrow for us
verbal badger
where are you seeing that?
verbal badger
ruby star
ah well thats a tad annoying
grizzled sleet
16 hours between US and EU reset times, not that much anyway
ruby star
@verbal badger Yeah I'm UK, so I have to suffer EU stuff. guess another day of waiting haha
grizzled sleet
Sometimes it's better to be on EU than US, like some bugs on prepatch that were on US but were fixed before pre-patch go live on EU.
Some people were not able to see mage tower skins and it was solved before it goes live on EU for example
grizzled sleet
after reset like everytime
amber briar
US get everything before EU ;)
viral terrace
@amber briar But you guys beta test stuff for EU peeps
Meaning we get the less broken patch.
sullen dagger
man there's someone that's having same problem as me?
i'm doing the silithius questline on one of my alts
and he was 900 ili
ilvl
but now i cant kill the mobs at silithius
they are destroying me
whole onyx
Man
They still haven't fixed the bugged quest, the one where you take Galeheart from Virgil Hill back to Boralus
oak wraith
Remember that not every content release needs/comes along with a patch nowadays.
regal coral
Hope these new teldrassil quests are easy for a lowbie 110... that Teldrassil Hippogryph would look lovely mounted on my wall.
restive sage
uh mounted on your wall?
clever ember
It's a scenario, So it shouldn't be too bad for new 110s. You'll be grouped with other people.
grizzled sleet
Unless you manually join a group, no you won't be grouped. That's for lordaeron not Teldrassil
grizzled sleet
Teldrassil is the new reality, the new world, the new warcraft
I mean burning of Teldrassil ofc
jade basalt
Here we go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo7XPvwRgG8
agile token
YEEEEEEEEES
rich apex
BREATHES IN
jade basalt
Holy freaking Light. The song is amazing.
sharp bluff
so she has a ghost ship?
but who was the ferryman she made a deal with
that is what i want to know
and what price did she pay
jade basalt
She went to some ghost place and went with some ghost ferryman who was actually Daelin's spoopy ghost or something and raised up his flag ship from the bottom of the sea
jade basalt
Dang it Davy Jones is at it again
hollow dock
So
She pulled a Nihlus
or a Jones
rose a ship from the depths.
Is this the evil thing that blizzard said she'd do in these shorts?
tulip sun
They didn't say that did they?
hollow dock
yes they had
tulip sun
o.o
hollow dock
that in these shorts the alliance would be shown as 'less than noble'
and that 'Jaina would do something pretty bad'
tulip sun
Just seems like she is regretting her decision.
hollow dock
tha'ts what I am asking you all
hollow dock
because it seems like blizzard is already going back on what they said for 'moral greyness'
sharp bluff
Well it looks like she raised someone to find the ship
or made a deal with him
Either way she made a deal with a dead man
sharp bluff
Since she gave up the necklace, it makes me think she gave up maybe memories?
zealous basalt
This explains the ship on the battle for Lordaeron
sharp bluff
since the necklace means something to her
zealous basalt
Like shesh
sharp bluff
She probably got some dark mage powers now
I wonder what "good" thing Sylvanis will do in her trailer though, since the "bad" Jaina thing is so vague
agile token
THE DAUGHTER OF THE SEAAAAA
sharp bluff
๐ Careful Hypere, that is treason talk to Vris
rich apex
Have you guys played Dragon Age 2
grizzled sleet
Sylvanas is about Arthas and burning of teldrassil
rich apex
It's like the climax of Dragon AGe 2
clever ember
That short gave me goosebumps.
rich apex
Sometimes you have to crack a few eggs to start a war
(but it's for a good reason, really)
sharp bluff
Hyp said the good thing was her burning it ๐
rich apex
Well you asked what the good thing could be
Teldrassil is an unnatural abomination made by Staghelm's pride
sharp bluff
๐ค
hollow dock
that's been cured and blessed.
rich apex
cough
grizzled sleet
Sylvanas => Past => with Arthas
=> Present => Watching Teldrassil burn
rich apex
(i'm shitposting =P)
sharp bluff
๐ค 2โฃ โ 2โฃ ...
hollow dock
yea that's why Im not really taking offense to it :p
rich apex
Sylvie probably-definitely did not burn Teldrassil to save the world
grizzled sleet
Sylvanas face here https://youtu.be/aExAYHQLwsY?t=1s
it's clear that she didn't burn it, she's shocked
sharp bluff
So what are the chances of Jaina getting necromancer/dark mage powers?
clever ember
Hopefully weโll find out who burned the tree next week in the conclusion of the story line.
sharp bluff
raising a ghost ship seems... different
grizzled sleet
grizzled sleet
Nathanos is emotionless here, but not Sylvanas
hollow dock
Yea no she's pretty emotionless.
Mouth open to say something
but otherwise, no expression that's any different than her normal face
grizzled sleet
How can you assume she's talking?
hollow dock
Mouth open.
zealous basalt
She is succ the invisible d that she needs
grizzled sleet
Mouth open doesn't mean she's taking
hollow dock
She's literally about to say words, undead don't need to use their mouths for anything BUT talking
remember? they don't breath
grizzled sleet
It's a facial expression
hollow dock
yea. About to say a word
grizzled sleet
And this is not how those animations work
hollow dock
That is how these animations work now that we've seen the first of their new updated Lords of War style
karmic copper
I had hoped we got one for saurfang
grizzled sleet
this is not how those animations work
It's clear that Sylvanas is shocked, not talking or about to say a word, it's the same thing in-game after Teldrassil burn
hollow dock
and yet if you watch every other animation, you can see that mouth open with dialogue is how they represent it
We can literally go pull every single Lords/Shao Hao/Harbingers that does this exact thing
zealous basalt
She is shocked that she actually succeded
hollow dock
^
zealous basalt
Because she always fail
hollow dock
To say Sylvanas is shocked: Is to mean that she actually cares that the alliance has lost its tree. The horde gains a port in Darkshore
the horde wins just about everything
it's not like she cares about civilian lives
or casualities
as seen in Ashenvale
grizzled sleet
She wanted to conquer it, and she didn't expect it to burn that's why she's shocked not because she cares about alliance
clever ember
The tree is on fire by the time the horde gets to it from what I understand.
grizzled sleet
So shocked mean that she cares about others for you Vris ? nice argument
hollow dock
why else does she need to be shocked?
she won the battle
She has darkshore
alliance lost its port
grizzled sleet
Mimig - Aujourd'hui ร 19:28
She wanted to conquer it, and she didn't expect it to burn that's why she's shocked not because she cares about alliance
hollow dock
there's literally no reason to be shocked.
hollow dock
Except that you'd be taking a KNOWN LIER AND MANIPULATOR at face value
Did before the storm not teach you to not trust sylvanas?
rich apex
you mean not to trust anduin
terse patrol
waifu jaina
sharp bluff
what magic allows one to control a ghost ship ๐ค
night swift
I think she just raised the ship from the seafloor
sharp bluff
well yes, but then she is controlling it
rich apex
Magic wind
night swift
Maybe from ice magic?
rich apex
Sailing it is the easy part
night swift
Froze water under it and lifted it up