beta-ptr-spoilers

[rich apex]

I mean

[dense plover]

she is an egotistical power-hungry monarch who believes everyone is less than her

[rich apex]

She's stayed consistent

Because she's barely appeared

[dense plover]

books

[hollow dock]

We know she's consistent because of Farondis' quest Hyper

[rich apex]

Books besides War of the Ancients?

[hollow dock]

she's not changed in the slightest

[rich apex]

And I was thinking of that quest, yeah

Which is the first time we actually see her directly in action

And they retconned things into the past in Chronicle

With her ordering Vashj to follow Illidan

[hollow dock]

SHe's queen azshara.

[rich apex]

And working with N'zoth

[hollow dock]

Why does she have to actually get her hands dirty?

[rich apex]

That is fair, yes

[hollow dock]

and we knowshe worked with N'zoth prior to Chronicles

considering the old gods made her into the naga. .-.

[dense plover]

^

also we see her a tiny bit in bfa

more than in azsuna tbh

she is in the dungeon in stormsong too

[rich apex]

Well, of course she's in BFA 😛

[dense plover]

and we can assume she is working with ashvane

[rich apex]

It's explicitly said she's in league with Ashvane, yes

[dense plover]

like the whole of the story of kul tiras ties pretty directly to azshara

same as how the horde story ties to uldir

[zealous basalt]

So

Beta testers

Guild doesn't tells you number of members

How to fix that?

[dense plover]

yes it does

theres a separate tab

the members tab

is it not there?

could be a bug

[zealous basalt]

nope

[rich apex]

Community/guild tab is buggy on live

Prepatch time is fun

[regal tusk]

will kul tiras humans have more classes soon?

[clever ember]

@regal tusk we don’t know much about the kul tirans yet.

Just what has been data mined so far.

[rich apex]

(And datamines are by no means final)

[regal tusk]

😢

[clever ember]

Hopefully we’ll find out more soon.

🤞🏻

[uncut vault]

Theyll have the given warrior/hunter/rogue, druids have been confirmed, mage is likely, given they've got a few mage NPCs + Jaina, shaman as well due to all the tidesages, priest and paladin are highly unlikely, DK and DH won't happen

[zealous basalt]

inb4 kul tiran dh

[rich apex]

I saw KT NPCs with glaives

🤔

[steel venture]

inhales
im still hype for the azshara warbringer short.

because it'll be an actual take on her lowest moment

that we have

no actual detailed lore on

someone at their lowest is where their rawest emotions and behavior will come out

[hollow dock]

We do have that though. Very much in the war of the ancient book she lets the city crumble around her and she lets herself drown

[zealous basalt]

Remember when

We had that discussion about Alternate Azeroth?

[dense plover]

jaina was a rare exception remember?

kul tiran mages are not common

thats why jaina was sent off to dalaran

because she could actually learn about her magic there

[restive sage]

but jaina doesnt look like a kul tiran

[hollow dock]

what does that matter?...

Katherine doesn't look Kul tiran

Half of Kul tiras doesn't look Kul Tiran

[restive sage]

becuz

i wanna play as a kul tiran that looks liek her c:

[dense plover]

play a human

[restive sage]

😦

[uncut vault]

That’s what I thought Peach, but they’ve got plenty of mages around, including in the portal room

Seems they’re a variant of the tidesages

[tropic trail]

@restive sage How come We the players we play humans don't have Jaina's light blonde hair color and hairstyle Elisa like ponytail?

In terms of Female Characters that is.

[hollow dock]

because it was made popular not a year ago and blizzard likes making their lore characters stand out

[dense plover]

^

different models for lore characters will always be a thing

[meager warren]

well sure, but it'd be awesome if blizz gave us top-notch customization like Black Desert Online, The Elder Scrolls, etc

tho The Elder Scrolls isn't as good as BDO

[zealous basalt]

Bars of %

[meager warren]

what

[zealous basalt]

nothin

[restive sage]

what

i believe you should have specified that your talking about character creation

[meager warren]

....i thought that was kinda obvious

[restive sage]

well

it is but

you still should be specific

[meager warren]

why

if it's obvious, why

[restive sage]

cuz someone is gonna come in here and think you actually said bdo is better than eso

[meager warren]

that someone would be wrong

[restive sage]

when ur just talkin about character customization

[restive sage]

that doesnt make sense to you?

[meager warren]

no it doesn't make sense that you want it to be more than obvious

[scenic field]

Lol

[past wedge]

Who says BDO is better than ESO🤔🤔🤔

[tulip sun]

Highmountain encampment in drustvar

[dense plover]

Yeah it’s the 2nd outpost you unlock as horde in that zone using war resources

[tulip sun]

HOW DID I NOT KNOW OF THIS??

Oh my gosh

[uncut vault]

cant you choose which you want to unlock?

you buy them from the vendor

[tulip sun]

That is cool

Never knew of it

I kinda wanna see the wholr base

[ruby star]

communties fixed woop woop

[frigid crater]

[grizzled sleet]

Communties fixed Wok-Wok

[past wedge]

Did they Nerf demonology?

Hes the shittiest dps as far as ive Seen it

[hollow dock]

Not that Im aware.

Could be stated/built wrong

[past wedge]

Okay, in Raid almost the shittiest, but on m+

[hollow dock]

I don't trust sims. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[past wedge]

Hmm, Yea We'll see, playing him at the Beginning, and if he is Shit, im going to play affli

[grizzled sleet]

Are you seriously trusting sims about BFA class changes with legion legendaries and T21 ?

Let's talk about sims when Uldir release with BFA Azerite traits

[cinder knoll]

something must be terribly wrong, disco priest top 3 dps 😄

[hollow dock]

not really?

Disc priest was low-end in legion, but still a technical dps class

[cinder knoll]

eh, no

his healing mechanic was based on dps, that doesn't mean he was dps class

also he has other spells, not just attonement

[hollow dock]

"He does healing by DPSing"

yes that makes him a DPS spec. *technically.8

The same happened back in Pandaria

when Disc priest was a healer and a DPS.

[cinder knoll]

I don't share your opinion, sry

[hollow dock]

alright ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[zealous basalt]

You gotta dps if you wanna heal

Wtb holy dps like that lightforged draenei in Argus

[hollow dock]

she was disc tho

[zealous basalt]

She seemed more holy

[grizzled sleet]

Disc priest is healer/dps but more healer than dps

But it's not a 100% healer

that's why they gave it a dps mage tower challenge

[cinder knoll]

@grizzled sleet sure, he's kind of what all hybrids were in old days... anyway having him at top 3 dps class in any aspect of the game is totally wrong

[hollow dock]

I don't see why a technical dps spec

is wrong

to be a good dps spec

[grizzled sleet]

@cinder knoll he won't be in BFA, class changes are based on BFA, what you see here is BFA class change with legion legendaries and T21

[cinder knoll]

sure, but still, legos and T21 cant do so much difference, seems like some scaling accident

[grizzled sleet]

They can do a lot of difference, and Azerite traits will make more difference for all specs, even if they don't nerf / buff anything until Uldir, disc won't be a top dps

guardian druid doing more damage than affliction warlock, everything is wrong there

It won't be the same sims on BFA even if they don't nerf or buff anything

[cinder knoll]

didnt notice that one, also funny 😄 but you are right, this is balanced mainly for BFA and 120, its always a mess in prepatch

[grizzled sleet]

restoration shaman is worse

[last condor]

BFA question on M+: How much AoEing is done now?

Deciding on spec and wondering if aoe should be a big part of the decision. 😄

[cinder knoll]

if you plan to do m+, then yes

[last condor]

Ah, stil an AoE fiesta? 😦

[cinder knoll]

well, maybe there will some exceptions, but overall, the better gear you have, the bigger pulls will tank do

[grizzled sleet]

AoE + Single target are both important

[cinder knoll]

that wont change so easily unless specific affixes

[last condor]

Sucks, Thanks.

Shammy still useless due to getting 1shot?

or is there less aoe damage in bfa dungeons?

[cinder knoll]

no idea

[last condor]

Oh? I assumed you knew the dungeons

[cinder knoll]

nope, I just know the info about my class I've read 😃

[last condor]

😄

[cinder knoll]

and part of that is getting to know good m+ builds and focus

so I know aoe will still be important

but maybe less than legion, not sure

anyway, I would play what I like on your place

things can easily change

[last condor]

I'm not very picky lol

As long as it's not warrior

[cinder knoll]

so if you care mainly about performance, I would suggest watching some class comparison videos from BFA beta

numbers can change, but mechanics will stay

[last condor]

I've got my head wrapped around the mechanics. I'm a little worried about things without consistent defensives

or high base life

[cinder knoll]

understand

[grizzled sleet]

@last condor you can add more defense / absorbs / heal with azerite

[last condor]

Oh that's cool. 😄

[grizzled sleet]

You can stack 3 absorbs from each azerite piece for example

[last condor]

Then Ele Sham / Hunter are both fine

Sweet 😄

[grizzled sleet]

I will give you an example

1 sec

[last condor]

Sure!

The top 3, if I had my choice, would be the 3 I'm picking between. I've ruled out the rest for 1 reason or another

Hunter, DH, Shammy

[cinder knoll]

quite different choices 😃 I would start if you wanna play melee, that will narrow down the selection pretty much 😃

or if you want to heal/tank at least as offspec

thats will also decide on itself

[last condor]

I'm thinking I'll end up leveling all 3

Shammy as a healer, DH as tank, Hunter as pure dps

This is the first xpansion I've considered a pure dps thanks to the new mode that doesn't force you to have a healer or tank

[grizzled sleet]

Some examples

[last condor]

Woah nice

These are going to be some tough decisions lol

[cinder knoll]

and same traits stack

[grizzled sleet]

You can stack 3 from the same trait

[cinder knoll]

so if you choose 3x shield, amount will stack

[grizzled sleet]

Yes

[last condor]

How big are life pools at 120?

in like..ilvl 350ish gear

[cinder knoll]

over 100k I think?

traits aren't major thing to be honest

I think I had like 130k on 120 on pvp realm on beta

[grizzled sleet]

The numbers you see in my screens scale with lvl 110

120 will be higher absorbs from traits

[last condor]

Wow, These higher M+s seem really tough

[hollow dock]

it's only tough due to the lack of gear

[last condor]

Yazma's Soul Rend does 21k damage at mythic 0. It's going to do 81k at M+15

if they kept the scaling the same

[hollow dock]

yea and by the time +15 is out, you'll have mythic level gear from Uldir

remember, it only goes to +10 until Mythic is out. and Mythic+ doesnt' come out until Uldir is out

[last condor]

Ahh

I won't be raiding though

Just M+ and PVP

[hollow dock]

Sucks for you then.

[cinder knoll]

they want to keep the sources relevant, mythic raids, pvp and m+

all with the same ilvl

weekly cap m+ should give you same ilvl as mythic raids

and top pvp gear as well

[last condor]

Here's hoping. 😄

I'm sad they re-enabled trinkets in PVP though

[cinder knoll]

there was a topic on wowhead about it

[hollow dock]

when mythic is out*

[last condor]

I'm eyeing a really nasty trinket in Uldir

[hollow dock]

Otherwise it doesn't go past heroic uldir gear

also, PVE trinkets are at 75% effeciveness in PVP combat

[last condor]

still hitting for 42k on crit

😦

I was REALLY hoping it was going to be 25% effectiveness

or less

[hollow dock]

reduced by 75%,

sorry

my mistake

[last condor]

Oh, That's a lo tbetter

[hollow dock]

The effectiveness of trinkets that are obtained via PvE sources such as Dungeons and Raids have been reduced by 75% in PvP.

[last condor]

14k rng proc is still rough, but way more manageable. 😄

[hollow dock]

hotfixed in tday

[last condor]

Oh very nice

Mythic Frenetic Corpuscle is crazy strong

Wonder if it'll be any good in PVE tho

[cinder knoll]

http://www.wowhead.com/gearing-up-in-battle-for-azeroth

if you want to check more info

[last condor]

Sure, Thanks 😄

[cinder knoll]

but there is no specific info about rating required for specific ilvl gear, so, not sure how relevant will this be

if they will lock max ilvl behind some 2k+ range, it will be for most people easier to get it elsewhere

[last condor]

2k+ is pretty easy to reach now n days

[cinder knoll]

not for casuals

[last condor]

They put out something about 1600-1800 being heroic raid ilvl I think

and ended that with etc...

[cinder knoll]

that should be fine

[last condor]

I'd guess 2k - 2.2k being mythic level, if that's the case

[cinder knoll]

that sounds reasonable

have to go, enjoy your weekend 😃

[last condor]

You too, friend! 😄

What this means is that players in Challenger/Gold (1600-1800 around) will have a chance at ~Normal raid quality loot, Rival/Platinum (starting around 1800) with Heroic Raid quality loot, and so on.

There it is

[tulip sun]

Huh

On another discord, someone said part of the horde war campaign is in the barrens next??? Trying to get link

[hollow dock]

OK?

Where's their proof

we know there's ample proof that the next warfront will be barrens

and theramore

[tulip sun]

I think they confused it with warfront....

Trying to upload picture

@hollow dock

[hollow dock]

yea thats warfront

[tulip sun]

O.o

It is all but confirmed

[hollow dock]

not really

[tulip sun]

Hmm

The map shows in the middle of Desolation Hold, Fort Triumph and the dwarf place

If going off that place pictured

Horde would have Taurajo, Alliance Bael Modan

Desolation Hold and Fort Triumph caputrable

[hollow dock]

what I wish to know is

where did he get the picture?

the warfront maps are just that. Maps. You can't access them in game

[tulip sun]

The warfront map isnt ingame. The subzone title appeared when he was flying

[hollow dock]

in fact, as far as I'm aware, the map is only 1 map.

It is in the files Kham. You've seen them with us when they were first datamined out.

It was a warfront map that connected Theramore (rebuilt) and Camp Tauren

[tulip sun]

Are you ignoring the above? V.v

[lone charm]

Guys, i wanna ask about azerit items.
Can get them from battlefront?
Cose 2 of them are 280 ilvl, and i need change them...

[hollow dock]

Yes. In game screen caps of 1 single person is not enough to convince me.

since ya know.

Things like the Turalyon Dialogue with Liadrin was faked

but 'in game'

[terse patrol]

hehe

[hollow dock]

it shouldn't convince anyone.

[terse patrol]

https://i.imgur.com/UK8fnFa.png

o no!!!

@hollow dock how could this be!!!!!

[tulip sun]

That is as easy as using TRP

[terse patrol]

They used a private server for it, I know who made it.

He’s always “leaking” stuff to drive people nuts

[zealous basalt]

It is canon for me

Let's be honest tho, Turalyon is a freaking powerhouse

[agile token]

WHAT

[hollow dock]

Its fake Asan

Its been fake.

[agile token]

still

too crazy

[hollow dock]

Still what?

[zealous basalt]

Vris

How would you feel of instead a level raise, they had come with paragon system instead every xpac?

[hollow dock]

Id feel wholly unsatisfied.

[lone charm]

Any help about azerite?

[hollow dock]

What help?

[restive sage]

level cap increase is better

[lone charm]

@hollow dock I can't get any azerite items from dungeons / battlefronts

[restive sage]

can you do warfronts on the beta

well, i know you can but how do you start one

[lone charm]

Just use table near guy who give weekly quest for wf

[restive sage]

ok c:

[hollow dock]

but only when your side is assaulting the warfront

[lone charm]

Guys, I'm keep getting only legs from warfront

Wtf

[restive sage]

you dont like pants?

[night swift]

Bad rng

[lone charm]

@night swift what is Rng?

[night swift]

I

What

You don’t know what rng means?

[zealous basalt]

Is the thing you are tied to

Rng says when you get procs

When you get gear

[grizzled sleet]

Random Number Generator, when something is random and you have no control or nothing to influence it

When you kill a boss for example, looting a legendary is random, it's RNG

[tulip sun]

@uncut vault Could ya get some images of that Highmountain camp? I am curious, specifically about any named NPCs

[dense plover]

there are no reused npcs

all of them are new

its a nothing outpost

it just gives you a flightpoint that gets you access to that side of drustvar

[tulip sun]

Welp, ok then

Still cool

[dense plover]

theres an additional outpost in each enemy faction zone

[limber mural]

carrying on from what I just said out of context

rezan's dead

[night swift]

Isn’t there a whole quest chain dedicated to the zandalari paladins that lost connection to the Light/Loa?

[hollow dock]

Yea when rezan gets gotted by Zul

[meager warren]

gotted? english, nub

[rich apex]

in before Rezan gets rezzed in the Zandalari Allied recruitment quest

[meager warren]

inb4 Rezan dies again

[dense plover]

its very possible that we will resurrect rezan or find an alternate source of the light for zandalari paladins. It would definitely be a great reference to OG wow where once side got paladin and the other shaman, but this time, flip it

[grizzled sleet]

I think Zalandari recruitment scenario will be about all other loas and will involve Rezan is some way

They can't focus on Rezan alone

[hollow dock]

Ignore that we still got paladins in DID

[grizzled sleet]

Shamans too

Kultiras may also be able to be shamans

Kultirans*

Imagine

[zealous basalt]

Human supremacy

[grizzled sleet]

Imagine If the return of Hati is a scenario / quests about reuniting with Hati.
You used to play a Human Hunter
You race changed to Kultiran
And then you reunite with Hati

Hati runs away

[dense plover]

im talking about the kul tirans to zandalari

not the prior two races

[dense plover]

so uh

there are rumors that some areas in silverpine are tagged as warfront staging areas similar to how there is an area in the barrens

can anyone check this?

[zealous basalt]

in beta?

[meager warren]

It would be so much better if that screenshot from above wasn't fake

Points at Genn, Turalyon, Sylvanas

[dense plover]

on live

just like with southern barrens on live

[whole onyx]

o.O wtf

[dense plover]

?

[whole onyx]

Warrior welding a staff o.0

[sharp bluff]

Arms warrior?

[dense plover]

its a two-handed weapon

[whole onyx]

Its funny lol

I'd imagine an arms warrior brandishing this WQ reward weapon lol

[rich apex]

Warriors can transmog staves

Since warriors can equip all weapons and thus get all transmog skins

And any 2her can be transmogged into any other 2her

Oh, it's a strength staff. Nevermind. :X

That is amusing.

[whole onyx]

Well yeah, it was a WQ reward and I just found out its a STR staff lmao

[rich apex]

Probably a minor bug

But since item stats are (usually) class/spec-based now

If a warrior gets a staff from a quest

it'll get statted to strength regardless

[whole onyx]

Doesn't affect the performance so I'll wield it for a good while and make everyone look at me with a weird face 😆

[rich apex]

Hey, if monks can kill people with a big stick

[hollow dock]

I mean.

the orc at the start of Vanilla is killing things with a big stick

before upgrading straigh to Ashkandi in BC

[dense plover]

they wont alway be statted to your spec

sometimes there are offspec ones

but warrior is strength for all 3, so yeah

[uncut vault]

Lol, Blizz messed up on live

[rich apex]

Apparently there's new music in Southern Barrens

For the warfront 😛

[uncut vault]

Same stuff as Arathi has, but with from the Horde warfront instance

where arathi has the alliance ones

[dense plover]

^

[uncut vault]

its got a very specific area, in between taurajo and the overgrowth

adds to my speculation this is gonna be tauren vs night elf themed

[ruby star]

cool

[hollow dock]

Rubs me wrongthat the night elves would attack the tauren.

[uncut vault]

Id say the same in reverse

night elves are just getting payback

[hollow dock]

but the tauren aren't the ones that attacked. Sylvanas and her undead were.

Like. If Baine was leading the charge, OK sure.

[uncut vault]

tauren are all over darkshore, same with orcs and goblins

its the horde attacking teldrassil, not just sylvanas and the forsaken

[rich apex]

The tauren are fighting for the Horde

They don't get a special exemption after the Horde burns freaking Teldrassil

(or so the night elves think, anyways)

The whole tragedy of the faction war is that otherwise reasonable peoples are being forced into this petty tribalism

It ain't like Velen wants to wipe out the Horde

But he has to defend his people, and his allies, so it ain't like he's going tell the draenei to just sit around on Azuremyst

[ruby star]

I don't see why or how Baine is allowing Slyv to burn tell and attack naturr druid night elf stuff

inb4 Baine defects

[uncut vault]

I mean, has Baine ever really been all that focused on nature stuff?

or had an actual spine to stand up to a leader if he disagrees?

[night swift]

Baine's just kinda there

Doesn't really get in the way

[rich apex]

Baine has to defend his people

And he has to assume that the tauren won't be shown mercy

It's not as if Anduin walks up to the Undercity and goes 'i'm just here for Sylvie, you guys can leave'

He says

With a giant army behind him

(other bit aside of the -slightest- amount of orcish honor to not pitch your warchief over the walls)

(even if every orc purist is saying that would, because it's only okay to be a war criminal if you're an orc dude)

[uncut vault]

I mean he kinda does lol, theyre there to capture her. Anduin at least

Genn clearly has other motives with capturing the city

[night swift]

Anduin also spares Saurfang

Genn would probably kill them if he had the chance

[restive sage]

andiun = kewl guy C:

[tropic trail]

Plus tauren and night elves are virtually allies

[restive sage]

is there a queen of stormwind tho

i need 2 know

[uncut vault]

were*

hard to be allies when they attack your sacred tree, been said theyre pulling the old RPG reason for the tauren being willing to attack the horde, land disputes

[restive sage]

😦

[uncut vault]

And no, there is no queen of stormwind

[restive sage]

well

i hope there will be

[uncut vault]

not likely to be, either, candidates are either a hard no, already have a boyfriend, or 30 years older than anduin

[restive sage]

😦

[sudden oak]

Wrathion is always an open option :^)

[night swift]

no

wrathion is probably evil now

[uncut vault]

I mean he's always been a bit evil

theres no indication of that in BfA

[night swift]

well yeah

Theres a black dragon isle expedition isnt there?

[restive sage]

uh

[uncut vault]

yeah, and the black dragons are the good guys in that situation

we're the dicks

[restive sage]

wrathion is an option for what..

[sudden oak]

also there is no proof that those black dragons are affiliated with wrathion

[night swift]

people ship wrathion and anduin

[restive sage]

but that wouldnt make him the queen of stormwind

.-.

[uncut vault]

double kings, bro

[restive sage]

uhh

the question was queen of stormwind tho

[night swift]

Two kings are better than one

[sudden oak]

with how much drama he creates I think we can call him a queen

[night swift]

Varian did have a wife yes

[restive sage]

what happened to her

[hollow dock]

she died

[night swift]

She died

[restive sage]

😦

[hollow dock]

You remember the Defias brotherhood?

[restive sage]

well when was this

[hollow dock]

Well

Way back in Vanilla

[restive sage]

WHY DID NOBODY TELL ME

[hollow dock]

back when Onyxia was still an issue

Varian had a wife

her name was tiffan

[night swift]

Her memorial and burial site is in stormwind

[hollow dock]

They had Anduin

[uncut vault]

happened a lot earler than vanilla

anduin was a baby in her arms when she died

[hollow dock]

it's supposed to be around vanilla time

[restive sage]

um... a baby in her arms???

[hollow dock]

enough with the ruining of my story telling. Out you vultures!

[restive sage]

how does a baby have a wife...

[hollow dock]

Anyways

The Stonemasons guild was contracted to rebuild stormwind after it was destroyed in the wars, the Stonemasons did so but Onyxia managed to convince the nobles to NOT pay them

[uncut vault]

yeah chronicles says year 15

[hollow dock]

the Stonemasons revolted

[ruby star]

Taila seems like she is being set up to be Anduins wife

[hollow dock]

During their little revolt and protest, Tiffan was killed by falling debris with baby Anduin still in her arms

she died almost instantly, Anduin was OK.

[uncut vault]

Taelia and Flynn are already a thing

[ruby star]

Are they?

[uncut vault]

mentioned multiple times through tiragarde sound

[hollow dock]

Because of this, Varian had ousted Edwin VanCleef, the leader of the Stonemasons, as traitor for getting Tiff killed.

[ruby star]

I didn't read text quest xD

[uncut vault]

has a few direct lines too, bartender guy talks to flynn about a girl with raven black hair

[hollow dock]

That's when the masons banded together and made the Defias Brotherhood. In defiance of Stormwinds nobility that had fucked them over.

[ruby star]

Break them up

Anduin needs a queen, Taelua is perfect person

[hollow dock]

You called her a wench

[uncut vault]

Nah I'm 100% fine with anduin having no spouse

[restive sage]

well

[ruby star]

They can develop it through expansions

[uncut vault]

doesnt need it for his story, nor does taelia

[restive sage]

does sylvannas have a husband

[hollow dock]

I dont think you're really suited for saying who needs a wife and who doesn't

[uncut vault]

she's got a side piece

[hollow dock]

no she doesn't

[uncut vault]

nathanos

[restive sage]

lol

[ruby star]

I never Vris 😮

[restive sage]

a side piece

who would want 2 marry sylvannas

[uncut vault]

kael'thas, apparently

[restive sage]

.-.

[hollow dock]

Nathanos and Sylvanas when they were alive.

[restive sage]

sylvannas was alive at one point??

so are undead people just dead humans

[hollow dock]

...

[uncut vault]

the upcoming sylvanas short is gonna help you a lot

[ruby star]

Anduin + Jaina =

[restive sage]

😃

[hollow dock]

You have to be trolling Slayer

[restive sage]

sorry that i dont know the story when im new

[night swift]

slayer, have you even read up the lore

[hollow dock]

No. Knowing UNDEAD were ALIVE at some point

[ruby star]

@restive sage Did you know Khadgar is a gnome?

[hollow dock]

isn't an excuse for

"Oh I'm new I didn't know

[restive sage]

pfft

khadgar is not a gnome

[night swift]

did you know he isn't actually as old as he looks

[restive sage]

wut

how old is he

[tropic trail]

Older than you.

[restive sage]

obviously

[night swift]

DAAMNNN'

[tropic trail]

Puts on shades

[restive sage]

how old tho

[hollow dock]

He's like early to mid 40s

He looks old because Medivh made him look old

[night swift]

was it a spell or curse

[ruby star]

Gotta love Medvih

[night swift]

I can't remember

[hollow dock]

Curse.

[tropic trail]

Spell.

Ree

[hollow dock]

REEEEEE

[night swift]

REEEEEEEE

[restive sage]

let me guess

hes like 10 years old?

[night swift]

no

[ruby star]

Medvih #bestmage/wizard

[hollow dock]

No?

We already told you

[restive sage]

you did?

[hollow dock]

I did

[tropic trail]

Ja

[hollow dock]

yes

[night swift]

He's in his 40s most likely

[restive sage]

oh there it is

[hollow dock]

early to mid 40s.

[tropic trail]

Midlife crisis.

[hollow dock]

Midlife crisis is about saving a giant titan woman

instead of just buying a sports car

[tropic trail]

With his rainbow coins

[night swift]

ah wheres that gif

of him with velen and illidan in the sports car

[restive sage]

is he actually a gnome

[hollow dock]

"Get in loser, we're fighting the Legion" or something like that?

no he's a human Slayer

[ruby star]

Can't wait to kill Khadgar for his staff

[restive sage]

oh

[ruby star]

@restive sage yes

[restive sage]

i thought so

drorith stop trolling

[ruby star]

The light blinds you

[restive sage]

im putting you on my list

[ruby star]

List of what?

[tropic trail]

I have a list of my own.

[restive sage]

of people that im gonna kill in classic wow

:)

[tropic trail]

Scribbles everyones name on it

[ruby star]

I'm not playing classic WoW

[restive sage]

well

[hollow dock]

I will only go to Ashenvale

and never flag for pvp

suck it

[restive sage]

if you do, just know that your on my list

[tropic trail]

I probably won't touch it to the end of Bfa

[ruby star]

I dont care about Classic xD

[tropic trail]

If it's out by then

[restive sage]

i actually just made another list

for people that im gonna kill in bfa

[tropic trail]

You can try to kill me

[ruby star]

Yeah GL

[tropic trail]

It won't end well for you though

[night swift]

[restive sage]

yea probs cant

😦

better hope your alliance tho

or im gonna get yu

[hollow dock]

night elf only

[ruby star]

Can't wait to hug your corpse

[tropic trail]

Ofc Vris

What else can someone be?

Night Elves > everyone

[restive sage]

so what is supposed to be happening in bfa

other than the uh

[tropic trail]

Me killing you.

Over and over.

Until you quit.

[restive sage]

hey that happened before

😄

i quit for a whole 2 days

[tropic trail]

Specs as blood

[ruby star]

Your supposed to give me all your gold

[zealous basalt]

oof

[restive sage]

oh ok

[tropic trail]

You have to pay the toll

[restive sage]

i only have like 6k tho

[hollow dock]

if you somehow missed it

It can be pretty hard to miss

so

don't blame ya

but there's a small tiny war goingon

between the alliance and horde

[restive sage]

yea i know bout daaat

[hollow dock]

real hard to miss

that's what's going on in BFA

[restive sage]

vris you gotta cut the sarcasm

[tropic trail]

Vris, I believe that's just a larping match

[dense plover]

guys

[hollow dock]

I can't take you seriously after you didn't realize that the undead used to be alive at one point

[dense plover]

in the hotfixes

"The experience awarded on completion of a random dungeon has been increased."

[hollow dock]

Oh neat.

Still not leveling through dungeons

[dense plover]

i bet people still complain though

[tropic trail]

But quick question

[restive sage]

whatever vris

[hollow dock]

they always will

[zealous basalt]

ye

[tropic trail]

I usually level through questing zones on new content^

[zealous basalt]

whatever vris

elves sucks

[ruby star]

@dense plover ayyy nice!

[restive sage]

just saying you need to be more polite

cuz

[hollow dock]

I will to those that deserve it.

[restive sage]

am anduin

[tropic trail]

Politeness only goes so far for certain people, Slayer.

[restive sage]

i deserve

politeness

[tropic trail]

No you don't.

[restive sage]

yes i do

[tropic trail]

No.

[hollow dock]

You deserve nothing in life

you earn it

[restive sage]

everyone in this discord server does

[tropic trail]

Respect, sure.

[ruby star]

Lmao

[tropic trail]

Respect > Politeness.

I will respect you before I'm polite to you.

[restive sage]

u r supposed to do both

C:

[tropic trail]

I'd rather hang myself

[night swift]

Not really

[hollow dock]

I do neither

sue me

private server

[restive sage]

who made the rules of the server

[tropic trail]

Vris is the latin daddy here

[restive sage]

was it sas

who was it

[tropic trail]

It was Khadgar.

[hollow dock]

You do realize that your empty threats about rule breaking mean nothing

[restive sage]

just saying that u r supposed 2 be polite here

[ruby star]

@restive sage it was todd howard

[hollow dock]

I'm not

so

sue me

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tropic trail]

It was L. Ron Hubbard

[restive sage]

sue u?

y

[ruby star]

[night swift]

I lose brain cells in some of these convos

[restive sage]

well

u couldnt have

[night swift]

op just lost another

[tropic trail]

I lost chromosomes

[restive sage]

becuz u dint haf none

dabs

[night swift]

Aaaaaaand they're gone

[restive sage]

told yah

[night swift]

😛

[tropic trail]

Anglais, not retarde Slayer.

[hollow dock]

I've lost brain functions

[restive sage]

who

[tropic trail]

I lost my ability to breathe

[restive sage]

who 2 brain word

[hollow dock]

can you take mine away Lilo

also private servers

[tropic trail]

Yes Vris

[ruby star]

Anyone got some sillet bang for me to drink?

[restive sage]

r u asking for him to take away private servers

[tropic trail]

Just come here and I'll steal it

[restive sage]

i can get behind that

[tropic trail]

But in all seriousness

Has anyone else been able to use other arti appearances?

[restive sage]

i have

[hollow dock]

private servers are the only reason we're getting classic

[restive sage]

this is true

[hollow dock]

if you take that away

you take away classic

[restive sage]

now

they better release wotlk and bc servers too

or i will be sahd

[hollow dock]

they won't

they're releasing classic

[restive sage]

no they have to

[hollow dock]

no they don't

[tropic trail]

No they don't.

[restive sage]

yes they do

[hollow dock]

no. they don't

[tropic trail]

They don't even have to release vanilla servers

[night swift]

They don't\

[ruby star]

Classic is gonna be a one minute wonder

[hollow dock]

People wanted classic.

[restive sage]

sodapoppin says he wants them to so they haf to

[hollow dock]

so they're getting classic

the moment they upgrade to BC

it's no longer classic

[restive sage]

thats why they just release it on a seperate server

and let you copy your character over to it

[ruby star]

Theres no point Slayer

[night swift]

Classic is gonna come out, and then probably die cause its almost all built on hype right now

[tropic trail]

Let's spend more money on server space

[ruby star]

Honestly a waste of blizzards time

[hollow dock]

^

[restive sage]

its what the people want

[tropic trail]

Doubt.

[hollow dock]

no they don't

they wanted classic

[night swift]

Not really

[restive sage]

yes they dew

[hollow dock]

they're getting classic

[restive sage]

lets go ask sodapoppin

rite naow

[tropic trail]

Slayer. Do you know what Nostalrius was?

[hollow dock]

Sodapoppin

is nt

not*

[restive sage]

i know what it was

[hollow dock]

all of WoW's fanbase

[restive sage]

a vanilla place

[ruby star]

Soda is one person

[restive sage]

so

soda is

[hollow dock]

Soda is a single person.

[restive sage]

the face

[hollow dock]

no he isn't

[night swift]

One person does not equal a whole community

[hollow dock]

he's a single youtuber.

[restive sage]

of some wow players

[tropic trail]

Soda is one person > 12+ million people that has/are played/ing the game.

[restive sage]

well

asmongold

[tropic trail]

He's still one person

[restive sage]

asmongold represents everyone

[tropic trail]

Put one and one together it's two

[night swift]

bullshit

[restive sage]

but

[night swift]

asmon isn't even that cool of a guy

[restive sage]

hes asmongold 😦

[tropic trail]

He doesn't represent me in any fashion.

[restive sage]

he is cool

[hollow dock]

He's kinda whiney

[night swift]

He's kinda scummy

[restive sage]

he has almost every mount in the game c:

[dense plover]

jesus, this isnt even beta related anymore

[tropic trail]

He seems like a douche to me, but I'm sure he's dandy.

[dense plover]

@restive sage take it to #no-wow-discussion

[restive sage]

i didnt start this topic

[dense plover]

yes you did

[night swift]

You kinda did

[restive sage]

of classic?

[tropic trail]

Scrolls up

[dense plover]

you did 100%

i deserve respect and politeness

[restive sage]

vris mentioned private servers

[hollow dock]

and watch as Slayer backsteps so that they aren't wrong

[dense plover]

thats how it started

[west relic]

I don't care who started it.

It stops here.

K thx.

[restive sage]

thulm theyre being mean

[dense plover]

lets get on topic!

[hollow dock]

Will do, Mr. Green.

[dense plover]

so

[tropic trail]

Insert Filthy Frank IT'S TIME TO STOP!

[dense plover]

warframe in barrens essentially confirmed

[tropic trail]

Warframe?

[hollow dock]

warframe?!

[restive sage]

warfront

[tropic trail]

Wtf

[ruby star]

Warframe

[dense plover]

warfront

[hollow dock]

damn it I gotta go play it

[dense plover]

sorry

[tropic trail]

The ultimate crossover

[dense plover]

games on my mind

[hollow dock]

OH GOD

WARFRAMES IN WOW

[dense plover]

warfront for barrens essentially confirmed

[hollow dock]

SPACE ANIME NINJAS IN WOW

[dense plover]

silverpine/gilneas soft-confirmed

[tropic trail]

My god, that's basically the Infinity War of games

[dense plover]

though im trying to get more details

[zealous basalt]

No u

DRO

WHERE ARE THE DRAGONS

[ruby star]

Alliance retakes gilneaa correct? At least lore wise?

[tropic trail]

D e a d

I killed them all.

[hollow dock]

But I kept them alive

[tropic trail]

Bet

[hollow dock]

so canonically, they're alive

[ruby star]

@zealous basalt Dragons???

[zealous basalt]

BRING ME DRAGONS

[grizzled sleet]

Alliance rerake GIlneas Lordaeon and invade Kezan

[dense plover]

alliance has cleansed gilneas

[zealous basalt]

...And dragon waifus

[grizzled sleet]

retake*

[hollow dock]

get out Mak

leave

[dense plover]

but there is nothing about them retaking it yet

[hollow dock]

abscond

[dense plover]

they probably will

then push into silverpine

and yeah

new capital for worgen and nightelves

[ruby star]

YEA WRAITHION BLACK/CHROMATIC DRAGONS ALLIANCE ALLIED RACE

[hollow dock]

uh

[ruby star]

Thanks

[tropic trail]

Non

[hollow dock]

chromatics

are horrifying monstrosities

[ruby star]

drops mic

[hollow dock]

that no one

NO ONE

would allow to live

[tropic trail]

asked for

[zealous basalt]

I think

He meant

a dragon wit the poewr of 4

5

[hollow dock]

yes

that's a chromatic

[tropic trail]

They're d e a d

[ruby star]

Okay fine perhaps black ones

[hollow dock]

they're horrifing abominations that no one, alliance or horde, or any of the remaining flights, would allow to live

[grizzled sleet]

Alliance = Gilneas
Horde = Theramore

[hollow dock]

there's nothing in theramore to take

[tropic trail]

Theramore = Crater

[hollow dock]

it was bombed

[ruby star]

Alliance gets wrathion and horde gets Stellagosa or whatever her name is or him

[uncut vault]

not just bombed, irradiated

[zealous basalt]

Why would

Stellagosa join

She is literally

[hollow dock]

Her, but the blues woul dnever join

[zealous basalt]

...

[hollow dock]

Dragons WOULD NOT side

[jade basalt]

There are floating chairs currently. Because 8.0 messed up things you wouldn't expect would be messed with. There's just a bunch of chairs in the air above the crater

[zealous basalt]

Besides

[hollow dock]

in a war

[zealous basalt]

Unless they touch something special

[restive sage]

i heard floating chairs

[uncut vault]

stella herself is a friend valtrois

[ruby star]

I heard that she was spotted in horde embassy but removed?

[restive sage]

is there a floating chair mount in bfa c:

[hollow dock]

Stella herself yea.

[uncut vault]

who is plentifully helping the horde

[hollow dock]

Drorith means the blue dragons in Azsuna

joining the horde

[uncut vault]

but her grandfather, the blue flight as a whole? nah

[hollow dock]

while Wrathion and the Blacks

join the alliance

[zealous basalt]

...

[hollow dock]

which is 100% nonsensical

[uncut vault]

will probably more be two black dragons

[ruby star]

Yeah thats what I mean Vris

[uncut vault]

ebonhorn is already basically horde

[zealous basalt]

Wrathion and -his- blacks

[tropic trail]

Kalec will remain neutral.

[zealous basalt]

Would crush anything

No

Kalec would be Alliance because she follows da puss

[jade basalt]

I mean you helped the Nightborne and they sided with the Horde anyway..

/s

[ruby star]

Wrathions and black dragons joining alliance makes sense tbh

[grizzled sleet]

Wrathion = Alliance
Another black dragon VVrathion = Horde

[uncut vault]

Ebonhorn

[jade basalt]

Ebonhorn is technically already Horde

[uncut vault]

literally already involved in the acquisition quest

[ruby star]

Wrathion could see Ebonhorn as a threat if he is allied to horde

[hollow dock]

Ebonhorn is already horde. and is a black dragon.

[jade basalt]

And Wrathion already supported the Alliance

We just need Sabellian now.

[ruby star]

I think Wrathion will becomr an Alliance leader In bFA with his story unfolding

Allied race incoming

Or I am wrong

[uncut vault]

Dunno about full leader, but helpful character, boy do I hope so

[ruby star]

And Vris can throw me off Kharazan

[jade basalt]

I don't know about 'leader'.. he's technically a traitor hence why we captured him in WoD.

[tropic trail]

I'd throw you off

[uncut vault]

still hoping we get a questline with ebonhorn for horde, wrathion for alliance

[ruby star]

Anduin is likely to forgive him

[uncut vault]

would certainly be a good way to give alliance some dubious actions

[jade basalt]

Forgive him for freeing Garrosh ? Nah.

[tropic trail]

Anthion?

[zealous basalt]

You say that mymind

[tropic trail]

I still want a gay boy romance

[ruby star]

Wrathion appeard in alliance embassy but got "removed" he was never replaced, perhaps they disablrd him/removed him until his story become relevant si it doesn't spoil

[tropic trail]

Make Anthion happen

[ruby star]

I'm interested to see where wrathions story is going either way

[zealous basalt]

They two would talk

[ruby star]

Seems like they are not cutting his content

[zealous basalt]

Then anduin would come to realization that what he did was good at a correct long term

[sudden oak]

lilo you fool its Wranduin

not Anthion

[hollow dock]

Wrathuin

Anduion

[sudden oak]

there is no way anduin is the dominant one in the relationship

[tropic trail]

Anthion

Make it happen Blizz

[hollow dock]

why not?

the manduin absolutely manhandled a dreadlord

[tropic trail]

You can't tell me Anduin wouldn't take that ass over like the Undercity

[jade basalt]

It did absolutely no good for the Alliance at all. All it did was cost many resources, the lives of many heroes like Taylor, and bolster the Hordes forces with the Iron Horde.

[uncut vault]

if you said that in MoP, I might agree, but now?

nah hes totally on top

[hollow dock]

^

[jade basalt]

Oh and brought Back Gul'dan who started the Legion's third invasion.

[hollow dock]

Ghoulish Daniel*

[tropic trail]

I thought you said black Gul'dan

[hollow dock]

LOL

[ruby star]

Brining back guldan was good

[tropic trail]

Black Gul'dan*

[hollow dock]

Ghoulish Daniel was fun.

[tropic trail]

Gul'black.

[hollow dock]

but I wish they used him more

[ruby star]

It led to us eventually stopping the burning legion

[jade basalt]

So no I don't see any reason Anduin would forgive Wrathion 😜

[tropic trail]

Gul'dan was unfortunately the most interesting in WoD and early Legion

[hollow dock]

made him more of a threat in the longterm all over the isle rather than he shows up to kill Varian

and that's it

[uncut vault]

Mind, you also forget that Anduin is the definition of a forgiving person

[ruby star]

Without wrathion doing what he did, the burning legion would still be at large

[uncut vault]

it took sylvanas literally slaughtering her people in front of his eyes to believe she was beyond hope

[ruby star]

Anduin would 100% forgive Wrathion

[hollow dock]

Anduin has unfortunately been mentored by ya know

Velen.

the man who hands out pardons to genocidal maniacs

[tropic trail]

Vel'Jaedan

Anyone?

[jade basalt]

He.. brought forth the Legion right after we fought a long arduous war on an another planet. Not cool Wrathy.

[hollow dock]

Lilo

cease

[tropic trail]

No

[hollow dock]

abscond

from

[sudden oak]

yes

[tropic trail]

WoW needs gay amours

[hollow dock]

these

Sinful

thoughts

[sudden oak]

I agree with that lilo

but not that ship

anything

[tropic trail]

Fine

[sudden oak]

but that ship

shivers

[hollow dock]

WoW needs more gay

this is true

[uncut vault]

Jump on the Andutor train with me

[hollow dock]

but not with demons

[tropic trail]

I will settle with Veluin.

[sudden oak]

NO

[uncut vault]

two suspected children of light and shadow

[sudden oak]

GOD