#beta-ptr-spoilers

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leaden bloom
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Ok

high edge
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Or i dunno where you at the story line

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If you are a fresh starter with bfa beta u have to go to the capital first and u will have a starter q automaticly

viral terrace
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You should get a quest popup

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Where Magni summons you to Silithus

formal coral
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anyone playing survival hunter on beta atm? are they good in m+?

hollow dock
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very good in it meph

amber briar
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Stop asking that question. It's too soon to know. Just try it.

hollow dock
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with them being untouched in the m ost recent Class tuning so far, they're shaping up to be pretty well balanced

restive sage
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yaaaaaaaaaaaaay my spec is getting buffed

high edge
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Anyone tried new destro warlock?

languid yoke
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wondering when further dungeon tuning happens tho

high edge
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As i saw they will have some buffs but without af power portals ita terrible

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Its*

formal coral
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i hope survival wont turn the same as in legion

leaden bloom
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@high edge I did the starter quest and the once in Silithus

hollow dock
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why? Survival in Legion is doing better than BM

high edge
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@hollow dock depend on sight

formal coral
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when I played, (before broken shoes) surv was like "pleaes dont come with us"

high edge
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Bm insane at 2v2

formal coral
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i talk m+

hollow dock
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so

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two years ago

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You do realize two years of balance changes happened right?

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and even then, survival hunter was doing fantastically well in Nighthold progression

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its just no one wanted to play one

formal coral
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hmm

high edge
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@leaden bloom get that neck nao :D

leaden bloom
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Didn't get that

hollow dock
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also Garo, we speak of PVE here. not PVP.

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Not a lot of us are PVPers. mostly raiders and M+ players.

restive sage
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well

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i tried to pvp one time

formal coral
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i really cant decide if i want to play VDH (dont lie Havoc), or play hunter where I like at least 2 specs

hollow dock
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so play 1 spec

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or 2 specs

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choice is obvious to me

restive sage
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why did they just nerf so many classes

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๐Ÿ˜ฆ

high edge
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I know, i was a raider too but after argus i felt nothing about pve so i started to play pvp

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Sorry for that

formal coral
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yea but also DH is a tank

restive sage
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so many got oofed

formal coral
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which is a huge plus

hollow dock
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a lot of classes were overtuned

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and you'd only be able to tank, Meph

restive sage
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hehe

hollow dock
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since you don't like Havoc

restive sage
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good thing i didnt switch classes

hollow dock
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they buffed up enhancement

formal coral
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true

high edge
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I cant pick a side

restive sage
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they need 2 nerf rogues

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in bfa

hollow dock
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If you love crushing skulls and raping and pillaging, pick horde.

If you like being a civilized person whom conquers the barbarians, pick alliance.

high edge
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In live i am an orc warrior but tbh i hate sylvanars and i hate that fact saurfang leaves the horde

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So i start a human ol rogue in beta

restive sage
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awww

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i like the horde stuff

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but im already alliance

high edge
hollow dock
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see. that's the issue with the horde

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She IS your warchief and you're required

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by oath of the horde

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to be your warchiefs expendable weapon

restive sage
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sylvannas looks so coooooooooooooool

high edge
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Nah shes just an undead btch

restive sage
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she is

high edge
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Yayna looks cool

restive sage
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pretty

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c:

hollow dock
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Why do people think corpses are pretty

high edge
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Necrophilia

restive sage
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because she doesnt look like a corpse yet

zealous basalt
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But she is

hollow dock
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If you can ignore that she's a corpse, then sure I guess.

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Just the whole thing of her being a corpse kinda puts me off.

restive sage
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im sure she takes showers

night swift
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She literally is a corpse though

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What

hollow dock
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yea in blight

zealous basalt
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Kek

hollow dock
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to be fair

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She smells better than Orcs

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I'd wager

restive sage
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c

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other than the corpse part

night swift
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Her body is also probably ice cold from lack of blood flow

zealous basalt
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You silvanas lovers are weird

restive sage
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i mean

night swift
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Agreed

restive sage
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im not even on the horde side

hollow dock
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Don't forget that she most likely has no nerves.

zealous basalt
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So you wont please her

hollow dock
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so no feeling.

zealous basalt
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It would be like

hollow dock
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anywhere.

restive sage
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.-.

zealous basalt
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Sticking a stick into a hole

ruby star
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Slyv is evil end of

restive sage
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hey

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i never went that far

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just said shes kinda pretty c:

night swift
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Most people do go that far though

hollow dock
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if ya think corpses are pretty. sure I guess.

restive sage
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look man

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its not my fault

amber briar
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Someday I fell on some image and since that day I will never see Sylvanas like an undead ._.

restive sage
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i wanna c

zealous basalt
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I mean

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Her living form was kinda cute if you put away her attitood

hollow dock
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the attitude made her better in life IMO

restive sage
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waow

high edge
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Xd guys thats why i like that chat i can pick up the line and i smiling :D

restive sage
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what?

high edge
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Btw i hope she will die and didnt come back

restive sage
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why

high edge
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She will be dead forever

night swift
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Sheโ€™s making so many enemies for herself as warchief

restive sage
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can undead people even die

high edge
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Im following saurfang and hes thinking

amber briar
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Question here... People in the horde do you have acces to Lordaeron in the beta?

zealous basalt
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Ye

restive sage
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you have access to lordaeron on the ptr

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i think

zealous basalt
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He meant after the siege

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No

amber briar
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Yes after the siege

restive sage
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oh

amber briar
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Because we dont have acces to Darnassus

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So I was curious

viral terrace
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You should have access to Darnassus as there is a portal at Stormwind Harbour

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to take you to the remains of Darnassus

high edge
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I think darnassus is bigger loss for alliamce as uc for the horde

viral terrace
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A lot of Night Elves died there, more so than Horde forces at Lordaeron

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So yeah

high edge
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To be honest

zealous basalt
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It was a surprise attack that came from nowhere

amber briar
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I did the quest in Boralus yesterday and the mage create portal for city except that one so I thought

high edge
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No horde ppl died,they become ud

restive sage
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what about

viral terrace
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@amber briar There's a portal at Stormwind Harbour that takes you to the remains of the city

amber briar
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Okay. Thanks. I will go mourn our tree.

zealous basalt
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We need

opal quest
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iS THE PVP BETA DOWN?

zealous basalt
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Like an animated screen of elves mourning da tree

opal quest
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it says incompatible for me??

zealous basalt
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Have you tried updating dat beta client?

opal quest
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yes

amber briar
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Next thing the horde will destroy it's Theramore I bet

opal quest
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i can paly the other two servers

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just not the pvp server

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it says incompatible

high edge
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Any horde who can convince me to boosting a maghar shaman and not a human rogue :D?

restive sage
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dont do it

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rogues are op

high edge
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I like my ptr human rogue tbh

restive sage
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alliance is gr8

amber briar
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Don't go in the horde. You can't support Sylvanas bitch

formal coral
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i would play horde if my friends wouldnt stick to alliance, way cooler

restive sage
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stop being so rood

opal quest
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anyone elses pvp server down?

restive sage
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honestly, im kinda tempted to use my 110 boost on a orc warrior so i can switch to horde cuz it sounds cooler but i would have only 1 max level character

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even though thats the boat im in anyway

formal coral
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not that its hard to level a character to 110 ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

high edge
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Tbh whats good in allance is the whole sailer and pirate content

restive sage
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yea but

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dinosaurs

high edge
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Meh

restive sage
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i just dont know if its the right thing to do

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๐Ÿ˜ฆ

high edge
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I motivatimg by new hyena and maghar wulf

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At horde aide

restive sage
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i dont know if i should do it ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

high edge
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Side*

hollow dock
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I am in the alliance for wicker beasts

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and night elves.

high edge
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@restive sage u know why blizz a btch?!

restive sage
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they arent

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but horde also get the coolest mounts

high edge
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I prepurchet collector bfa and they will send a coin with horde and alliance side to know whats your side

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Thanks blizz

restive sage
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do u flip the coin ._.

high edge
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Ohh u r right

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I need to flip it to choose

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It will come on aug 14

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So i have to wait till

restive sage
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huh

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idk

high edge
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See its not that simple

zealous basalt
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@hollow dock i see u not getting that elves are old and need to retire

restive sage
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y not just flip the coin and dew it

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when it gets there

hollow dock
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Coolest mounts IMO have always been the Glory mounts tbh

leaden bloom
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So I went back to Stormwind after doing the Silithus quest and not getting any new once. Still nothing

high edge
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Cuz its hard to pick

restive sage
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i dont like the uh

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hmm

viral terrace
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What is the mount called that is a dragon and has horns that look like Ysera's?

high edge
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@leaden bloom i can help just lemme have a shower and ill do a new char

restive sage
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the um

leaden bloom
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@high edge ok thanks ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

restive sage
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life binders handmaiden

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dat 1?

viral terrace
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@restive sage that's it

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Ty

hollow dock
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Why ysera

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it's literally alex D=

restive sage
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who is alex

hollow dock
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Alexstrasza. Queen of Dragons. Life Binder.

viral terrace
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Ysera's ghost can be seen in the emerald dream once it's purified

restive sage
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oooh the emerald dream

zealous basalt
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That handmaiden

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Idk what's worse

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Invicible

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Or that drake

restive sage
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i got invincible first try

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it isnt that rare

zealous basalt
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But can u see it?

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Also

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Why isnt there a king of dragons

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Fuckin bias

ruby star
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Makore, I think we might see a Quel'thals patch in BFA hopefully

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Perhaps a plot/story leading towards us returning to Quel'thalas? (patch)๐Ÿค”๐Ÿ˜€

  • "I know the Sin'dorei can be redeemed" by vereesa (comic)
  • "We will bring Silvermoon back into the Alliance I know it."
    by Alleria (Umbric also wants to)
  • Void Seems to want the sunwell.
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many reasons for us to return

tulip sun
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Hm..

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It would be fun but idk

high edge
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if someone up for some pvp , summer season semi finals will be start after 30 min

zealous basalt
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Ye

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There are many reasons

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But will they want to come back with Alliance?

tulip sun
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No

ruby star
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Yep, I think they could

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I mean blood elves no

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but Quel'thals? yes

tulip sun
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Quelthalas is a city

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How would it want to go back v.V

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Blood elves living in it would not

ruby star
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Quel'Thalas is not a city

tulip sun
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They are dug deep into the Horde after MoP

ruby star
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silvermoon is the city

tulip sun
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Whatever, you know what i mea

ruby star
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Quel'Thalas is the land/area

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yea

tulip sun
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Blood Elves will never go to the alliance

ruby star
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Yes, mainly because gameplay reasons

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but the Quel'Thalas area? that could easily be taken back

tulip sun
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Not really, wouldnt make much sense lorewise either

ruby star
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Well Blood Elves have tried to leave multiple times haven't they? but never did?

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Slyv going all evil again gives them anothor reason too

tulip sun
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Key word, didnt.

ruby star
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I'm not saying they will leave for the alliance though

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so

tulip sun
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They are as entrenched into the Horde as orcs at this point.

ruby star
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However the Alliance could easily take back Quel'Thalas

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it's if blizzard goes down this route if they do the Quel'Thalas patch

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I mean for all we know Nzoth might attack Quel'Thalas

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for the sunwell

ionic terrace
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Upgraded Swiftwind Post... just gives an armor buff from an npc. :/

zealous basalt
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Eh

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I'm ok with quel thalas belonging to horde

ruby star
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I mean either way it seems likely we'll get a patch there in BFA or one after

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Blizzard are hinting towards it

ruby star
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I mean for all we know the Quel'thalas patch could be us sieging it but while the siege happens Nzoth attacks

uncut vault
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Bwonsamdi has a boss apparently

strange falcon
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DIS BE BAD*

hollow dock
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inb4 Bwonsamdi is working with N'zoth

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or better yet: Hakkar

restive sage
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the new weapons look reely cool

tulip sun
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Interesting

polar mango
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I'm ready to spend all my nights fishing in BFA.

restive sage
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.-.

polar mango
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I will have all the midnight salmon.

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Most folks don't like to fish anyway but limited a feast fish to a few hours a night? That's gonna make them even more valuable.

rich apex
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Wow who would have thought the dead troll spirit collecting all the other troll spirits and demanding souls from everyone was shady

hollow dock
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waaaa

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he's not shady Hyper

rich apex
jade basalt
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@uncut vault When does that happen ?

hollow dock
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I believe it's when you bring the Urn to Bwonsamdi.

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and he sends you to fetch Vol'jins soul

jade basalt
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I thought the questline ended when you brought the urn to him, and then nothing

zealous basalt
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noes

hollow dock
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o= Did ya miss where you're sent to go battle Zalazanes soul and Vol'jins soul punts him and that's why people think he's possibly a loa?

restive sage
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o.o

jade basalt
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Hmm I thought this happened before that

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Timeline's a bit confusing.

hollow dock
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Yea. When the urn is first brought to Bwonsamdi, he's kinda spooked that Vol'jins spirit isn't there. As far as I remember, he then sends you to find it and you find out what happened over on the Broken Isle. It's then you return to Bwonsamdi. Note this was months ago that I last saw the quest being mined out

jade basalt
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Alright I'll have to check. But the wording itself is pretty weird, doesn't really sound like Bwonsamdi at all. He also doesn't have a boss, as far as we know (or knew, if the screen is legit).

zealous basalt
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What the fuck is that

restive sage
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thats alot of words

jade basalt
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Making a point !

zealous basalt
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Is that a battle royale or what

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Is that a troll or wat

sharp bluff
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Lord... hogger????!!!

tranquil steeple
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"First Conqueror Thalyssra" wat

zealous basalt
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Seems like a cluster fuck

urban dew
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What the hell

terse patrol
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Iโ€™m pretty sure thats a private server

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Itโ€™s EZ to fake dialogue.

jade basalt
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Nah. RP add-ons allow people to write as NPCs. This screen was kind of everywhere a few weeks ago. The Bwonsamdi screen above reminded me of it.

hollow dock
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HA!

terse patrol
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Reminds me when my friend made a fake screen of Turalyon beheading Lady Liadrin.

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And people freaked

hollow dock
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What made people freak was WoWhead reporting on it

tranquil steeple
terse patrol
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kek

mint arch
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private

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server

restive sage
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dont say that

zealous basalt
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PRIVATE SERVER

restive sage
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stop it

strange falcon
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PRIVATE SERVER

uncut vault
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According to the person who posted this, its from the questline that occurs at revered with the zandalari empire

tranquil steeple
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I've severe doubts it's legit... but haven't really any way to prove it's not.

strange falcon
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zandalari is not like suramar with repgated quests,or else we would have quests for friendly and honored

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not legit in the slightest

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and I'm honored with them in the beta atm

tranquil steeple
crystal forum
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Welp

uncut vault
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Mind's post was intentionally fake

hollow dock
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Private server @restive sage

restive sage
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stop

hollow dock
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private server

zealous basalt
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private server

restive sage
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im gonna tell thulm on u

hollow dock
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Im just waiting for you to get me banned since I can be banned.

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private server

zealous basalt
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privaet server

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isn't even sunday yet

ruby star
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Did someone say private server asmonGet

restive sage
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@west relic

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dangit

zealous basalt
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ohhh

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you did it

west relic
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๐Ÿ˜’

restive sage
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thulm they keep trying to annoy me by saying the p s word

west relic
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Block them.

restive sage
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but when you block people it still shows their messages

west relic
restive sage
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y u not tell them to say sorry ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

west relic
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Because thatโ€™s not how this works.

zealous basalt
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Besides

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Its a jojoke

restive sage
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well

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i cried a few times

strange falcon
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are we doing jojokes?
@restive sage

"your next line is,stop saying private servers!"

restive sage
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.-.

west relic
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Alright. New topic.

restive sage
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i have a topic

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what other allied races could be added

ruby star
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High Elves.

rich apex
ruby star
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Xd

rich apex
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if you want to play high elves, ESO is over there

ruby star
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Gotta love me some moonsugar

zealous basalt
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stop saying private servers

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...nani

strange falcon
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๐Ÿ‘Œ

restive sage
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makore he said to change the subject

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and why would u play a whole different game for a single race

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-.-

zealous basalt
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...

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Booi

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its a joke

ruby star
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^

hollow dock
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something tells me this is just rys in disguise

mint arch
restive sage
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who is rys

zealous basalt
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But how to know?

restive sage
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๐Ÿ˜ฎ

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i know

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me nd rys dont have the same btag

wraith marten
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Are the warfronts gonna be LFR like diffculty?

uncut vault
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Not exactly comparable, but they will be easy, yes

wraith marten
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Ah nice. Then I can do them ๐Ÿ˜„

hollow dock
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It's better to compare it to dungeons and other scenarios. I imagine that at first, as we have really terrible gear, it'll be slower and loss is a real thing.

But then as you get gear it becomes a breeze if they don't scale it up like they do dungeons

uncut vault
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nah with recent builds even with crap gear its crazy easy

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its intended to be won always, gotta try to lose

dense plover
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Still fun though

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Actually more fun now that it isnโ€™t abysmally easy to fail

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And constant floundering to get to attack the gate without losing other locales is gone

uncut vault
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oh it is a lot more fun now

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because you can actually do some of the objectives without requiring most of the raid now

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peers at circle of elements

dense plover
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XD

uncut vault
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I dunno if they lowered his health, or just removed the infuriating health reset, but its much nicer now

dense plover
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Reset was removed and damage was lowered

tulip sun
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I GOT THE MOUNT

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Wrong chat

frigid umbra
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Good for you๐Ÿ‘

tulip sun
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Brawlers Guild kount, lol

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Mount

restive sage
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arent there 2 brawlers guild mounts

steel venture
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the last one was removed.

tulip sun
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I am pissed i missed that

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It looked so cool

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Mushan

restive sage
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c:<

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that face looks weird

tropic trail
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transmog of druid bug

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when I use another type of weapon that are not daggers

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I can not wear my feral form

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just let me use two

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๐Ÿค”

uncut vault
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xmogging non-daggers works fine for me

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did you get a wand? Theyre currently bugged to not work with artifact mogs

tropic trail
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Polearms

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if then I change to the artifact being in feline form

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there are two different skins

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orange tiger with artifact

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first skin with Polearms

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Wants claws of the shivarra to come back

uncut vault
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yeah if you have the artifact on, it shows your artifact form

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if you have the other mog on, it shows the other mog

tropic trail
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i need my orange tiger form in any weapon

languid yoke
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yes pls give us claws of shivarra

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or saberon allied race

calm lantern
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Can someone help explain something, I was reading the apr 24th liveblog and i dont understand the answer that was given to this question, it makes me thing that all gear will be tradable or something

*How will the item level and trading restriction for Personal Loot work mechanically going forward?*
The highest item level piece in that slot that you have looted and soulbound will be recorded. You can trade anything up to and including that item level.

Any help?

zealous basalt
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Basically

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It means that in a raid, if you get a piece with equal or less the item level you have equipped on said piece currently, you will be able to trade it to players in the same raid

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This doesnt mean that the gear becomes BoE

calm lantern
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Is that different from what is live today?

zealous basalt
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I think you cant trade the same ilvl

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Or probably hes

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Yes

tranquil steeple
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That doesn't say it has to be lower or equal to what you have equipped, but lower or equal to highest possible equippable item in a certain slot.

calm lantern
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Again im pretty sure thats just how it is today, which makes me wonder why it was mentioned, i was expected it to be like you can trade at any time or something

tranquil steeple
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Though with the wording of the first part of the answer will be recorded it might mean that once you obtain an item that's your new highest ilvl for that slot, that's the "lower or equal" limit regardless of if you actually still have it or not.

hollow dock
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It does say the item's level itself is recorded in that slot

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not the highest possible

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The highest item level piece in that slot that you have looted and soulbound will be recorded. since you have to loot and make it soulbound

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So yes it's anything equal to or lower can be traded. Which wasn't true for live, where equal pieces of gear aren't tradeable

zealous basalt
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So

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Is Agatha the easiest challenge?

hollow dock
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Depends

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are you good at timing rock dodges?

restive sage
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is it true there will be no uh, raid tiers

hollow dock
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If the answer is yes, then sure. She's easiest.

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There will be no more raid tier sets.

restive sage
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how is that gonna work

hollow dock
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You know how Emerald Nightmare gear worked?

zealous basalt
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I sucked at rock dodging for 5 trials xD

hollow dock
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just like that.

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It's all just normal gear. No specific sets

restive sage
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i dont know how emerald nightmare gear worked

zealous basalt
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No extra effect

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Which honestly

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They sucked for some classes

hollow dock
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each raid will have its own art style for the four armor sets as opposed to the tier themes.

restive sage
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i thought it would affect the ilvl

hollow dock
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Why?

restive sage
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cuz

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tiers

hollow dock
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Tier gear is the same ilvl

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as the rest of the raid gear

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O.o

restive sage
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na ah

hollow dock
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Yea huh

zealous basalt
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Yes it is

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It has been that way since Vanilla wow

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Becuse it would give an unfair advantage

hollow dock
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A tier piece of gear that drops of of Aggramar is the same ilvl helmet as any of the non-tier helmets in Antorus.

zealous basalt
#

Also I think my client is broken

hollow dock
#

Run that juicy repair

zealous basalt
#

I remember leaving it one night to download the prepatch

restive sage
#

becuz

zealous basalt
#

Vris

restive sage
#

da gear frum tov wuz not as good as the gear frum antorus

zealous basalt
#

What are the dks bosses?

#

Of course it isnt

restive sage
#

dats wut i tought wuz da tiers

zealous basalt
#

You are talking about different content gear

#

Ahh

#

I get it

restive sage
#

.-.

zealous basalt
#

Well, next raid content gear gets called tier sometimes

restive sage
#

it dose

#

and da people confoos me

zealous basalt
#

And that's logic, 7.0 tier was weaker than 7.1.5

hollow dock
#

Yea. OK so.

zealous basalt
#

But we are referring to Armor Tier Sets

hollow dock
#

Tier'd raiding

#

still exists

#

Uldir is its own 'Tier' of riading

#

raiding*

restive sage
#

can i ask 1 mower question

zealous basalt
#

Vris

hollow dock
#

what about DK bosses

restive sage
#

how many updates are usually in an xpac

zealous basalt
#

Who are the bosses of DK?

#

Ehh

#

Depends

hollow dock
#

depends on how much content they decide to push out

#

there is no normal number or even a real average

restive sage
#

cuz wotlk and legion both had the same amount

zealous basalt
#

It can be as little as WoD

restive sage
#

but didnt mop have more

hollow dock
#

Again depends on how you look at it

#

in terms of pure patches?

restive sage
#

like, updates adding content

#

c:

zealous basalt
#

Yeah

hollow dock
#

Legion had the 7.0 patch, 705, 7.1, 7.1.5, etc

#

and which, not every patch necessarily

#

added content into the game

zealous basalt
#

7.3.2 too

hollow dock
#

yea that too.

zealous basalt
#

But

#

Legion was unique

restive sage
#

c:

hollow dock
#

It's hard to say how many content updates legion had since it's unique by comparison of other expansions

zealous basalt
#

They decided to push content by small pieces

#

Althoufh that meant that we were time gated

hollow dock
#

yea.

#

Now what do you mean by DK bosses

zealous basalt
#

Challenge Bosses

hollow dock
#

we have 3.

zealous basalt
#

Kruul

#

Who else?

hollow dock
#

Xylem, Agatha, and Kruul

#

Xylem is for frost, Agatha for Unholy and Kruul for tank

zealous basalt
#

Agatha for Unholy I suppose

#

Fuc

#

Oh well

#

I'm going to miss those

hollow dock
#

enjoy doing a decently mobile dependant fight with the lowest mobility class in the game

zealous basalt
#

My other artifacts dont have relics

tranquil steeple
#

here's hoping for re-buff on Demon Blades, since it was the legendary ring that made it really op

hollow dock
#

I sure as fuck didn't but I got mine done

zealous basalt
#

Agatha is easy to be bursted tho

#

I like

#

Quickly dropped her to 50%

#

BUT OMG THOSE FUCKING ROCKS

#

I think the worst part was...

#

The second teleport

#

I mean

#

At least fire mage has self healing

#

Back to content patches

#

Legion was unique because it introduced mini patches and a micro raid

#

Which tbh I expected them to add more

restive sage
#

a micro raid? was tov a micro raid

zealous basalt
#

In technical terms

hollow dock
#

Yup

zealous basalt
#

Bigger than a dungeon, smaller than a big raid

hollow dock
#

since ToV had no specific tier gear in it, it had only three bosses,

#

et

#

etc

#

Like Ruby Sanctum

zealous basalt
#

And a cool tmog set

restive sage
#

i knew i knew something

hollow dock
#

which btw

restive sage
#

ruby sanctum in the raid with the one boss that drops a mount everytime rite?

zealous basalt
#

Although what they dis with the gear sucked

hollow dock
#

No, that's obsidium sanctum

#

close though!

restive sage
#

aww

#

๐Ÿ˜ƒ

#

il try again soon

zealous basalt
#

So we had 7.0.5, 7.1.0, 7.1.2, 7.1.5, 7.2.0, 7.2.5, 7.3.0, 7.3.2 and 7.3.5

#

So this motherfucking expac got a total of 9 patches

#

And the Argus content was unique because the final patch didnt unlocked the Raid

#

...wow, Legion was quite big

restive sage
#

7.3.5 = worst patch

zealous basalt
#

I disagree

restive sage
#

made leveling slower

zealous basalt
#

That was a good change

#

Even if we hate it

hollow dock
#

I love the slower leveling.

zealous basalt
#

For newer players that helps a lot

restive sage
#

not when your leveling ur 4th alt

zealous basalt
#

Exactly

hollow dock
#

I'm on alt #12

#

get on meh level

restive sage
#

i dont even wanna level anymower ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

zealous basalt
#

Its not intended to be really effective for us older peebs

#

But for new bois and gals

#

They can understand how the world moves

hollow dock
#

Just do the tried and true method Slayer

#

grab a leveling buddy that's a tank or healer

#

and dungeon spam

#

since all dungeons now give an equal amount of XP

zealous basalt
#

The higher stats on mobs have a meaning

hollow dock
#

you're not wasting any ques

zealous basalt
#

So you learn to play your class as you move

#

Although...classes in Legion felt incomplete in leveling because they were tuned to Artifacts

#

Monks feel really incomplete with two attacks at level 10

restive sage
#

legion made warriors feel gud

hollow dock
#

Fury has always felt janky for me. Legion made it better.

#

BFA has perfected it

zealous basalt
#

And bfa perfected it

restive sage
#

and bfa perfected it

zealous basalt
#

I hope they dont touch anything tbh

restive sage
#

no dont touch that

zealous basalt
#

Another class that felt good was

#

Demo lock

#

Although they removed the tanking spec of it

#

But it feels fun

restive sage
#

demo lock looks fun in bfa

zealous basalt
#

Locks might havent get a revamp of animations this xpac

restive sage
#

what other classes could be added to world of warcraft?

zealous basalt
#

looks at Vris dont you dare to say that B word

hollow dock
#

looks to mak with a smile slowly creeping onto their face

zealous basalt
#

Dont even

hollow dock
#

Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

#

rd

zealous basalt
#

IIFKAFWOFMFAD

#

NO

hollow dock
#

BARDS

#

SEDUCE

#

ALL THE THINGS

zealous basalt
#

They wont do any damage

#

And blizzard didnt implement support classes

#

How are you going to damage

hollow dock
#

THEY'RE NOT MEANT TO! THEY'RE MEANT TO SING AND DANCE! AND FUCK EVERYTHING!

restive sage
#

bards are like music guys rite?

zealous basalt
#

Ye

restive sage
#

theres a bard in alot of games ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

zealous basalt
#

Their music should buff people

#

But

restive sage
#

so how does it work

zealous basalt
#

There isnt really a support role

restive sage
#

do they sing bad music and it just hurts everyone's ears?

zealous basalt
#

They would have to attune their stuff

#

Sing for buffing

#

Because a bard doesnt do damage

#

Yet they would have to be

#

Really effective if you want a bard

#

Perhaps temporal buffs

#

Increase x stat for x seconds

#

X school of damage has a boost of x points for x seconds

#

restore x amount of mana in x seconds

#

That last would be really effective in raids

restive sage
#

idk man

#

i think bad music could be their dps spec

zealous basalt
#

They would have to revamp all the classes and how do they work in order to add a bard

restive sage
#

dang

tranquil steeple
#

make Bard's damage based on a buff they give other players

restive sage
#

wut about dark ranger

#

c:

tranquil steeple
#

so that players get a, let's say, 10% damage increase, and that damage counts as the bard's damage

restive sage
#

well i thought it would be cool ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

hollow dock
#

better yet

tranquil steeple
#

Dark Ranger seems too weird to be a class of it's own, maybe if Blizz ever considers adding another spec to some classes

hollow dock
#

Make

#

metal music

#

the DPS spec

tranquil steeple
#

that could work too, for Bard

hollow dock
#

also Dark Ranger would never be a class on its own since so much of Dark Ranger is split into Marksman.

restive sage
#

yea yea dark ranger to hunters that wuld be sikk

#

oh

#

.-.

hollow dock
#

that's kinda blizzards issue when they designed this game

#

and why only 3 classes have been added to the game in its whole lifetime

restive sage
#

y

zealous basalt
#

It limits itseld

tranquil steeple
#

there could be so many interesting specs for classes, but there's so many abilities that could be used for that new spec that... are already used by existing specs

zealous basalt
#

Itself*

hollow dock
#

the base classes cover to much what other more exotic classes would be

tranquil steeple
zealous basalt
#

Yeah

restive sage
#

well they need to fix that

zealous basalt
#

That would make classes boring

restive sage
#

didnt they ever write essays?

hollow dock
#

They tried that with legion

restive sage
#

you gotta stretch it out

hollow dock
#

When they remade Demonology warlock into a summoner class and took away metamorphosis for Demon Hunters to use

restive sage
#

really?

zealous basalt
#

People made an outrage

tranquil steeple
#

yep

hollow dock
#

That was met with....less enthusiastic feedback

restive sage
#

they took metamorphosis away????

hollow dock
#

They took it away and gave it to Demon Hunter

restive sage
#

thats terrible

tranquil steeple
#

Demo locks used to have Meta, where they essentially became actual beasts that could go full aggro, instead of stand back and cast

zealous basalt
#

Although

hollow dock
#

since the idea of being a demon hunter is becoming a demon. Which is what demonology was about

zealous basalt
#

Then they were like

#

"Oh, this is not that bad"

restive sage
#

why couldnt both of them become demons

ruby star
#

@hollow dock Wanna see a nice theory?

hollow dock
#

Because its an overlap of thematics

zealous basalt
#

Yeah

hollow dock
#

Blizzard doesn't like that

restive sage
#

well they can just

tranquil steeple
#

Idk I'd love for Demo to get the dark apotheosis or w/e that priests had

restive sage
#

sneak it in...

hollow dock
#

Every class and Spec should feel special, unique and fun to play.

tranquil steeple
#

as the "Meta Demo locks used to have but without being identical to DH's Meta"

zealous basalt
#

That's what makes wow different from other MMOs

ruby star
hollow dock
#

Yup. Other MMOs sure do have some unique stuff between their classes

#

but otherwise, they feel very samey

zealous basalt
hollow dock
#

WoW was having this issue up into WoD but Legion shattered that.

zealous basalt
#

Topkek

ruby star
#

You gotta read the theory though Makore XD

restive sage
#

so uh theyre removing dx9 in the prepatch

#

but i dont even think anyone still only has a dx9 compatible card >.<

#

should have done it ages ago

zealous basalt
#

I read it already

ruby star
#

thoughts?

zealous basalt
#

Idk to take the cut content for real

hollow dock
#

that's the thing Slayer

#

Blizz keeps WoW alive by ensuring that you can run this game on a ten year old potato laptop

zealous basalt
#

And for one, Alleria isnt the same of a blood elf

hollow dock
#

that's run on hamster wheels

zealous basalt
#

ALTHOUGH

hollow dock
#

Accessibility is what's kept this game afloat for so very long

zealous basalt
#

Direct x 12

#

Makes it better to run

hollow dock
#

now for the theory: I like the idea.

#

ya know, it would also explain why Rommanth was so against going to Northrend.

#

rather, joining up with the Kirin Tor in northrend to fight the Blue Dragons.

ruby star
#

^

#

BFA would be Rommaths perfect time to strike

#

like you said before the titan prision places are like broken or something

#

if the alliance attack quel'thalas, it leaves it in a weak position

#

therefore Rommath can pull it off quite easily I'd assume, as the blood elves wouldn't be able to defend from both attacks easily

#

you could say why didn't rommath do it before? well the titan facilities weren't broken then? and old gods were imprisoned (nzoth )

#

@hollow dock btw please correct me if I'm wrong

#

xd

hollow dock
#

It's a sound plan. Just takes some backtracking and adding in of information that hadn't existed. In which, the titan facilities all have, what we can assume is, massive ruptures and containment has been threatened. From what we see in the heart chamber, its possibly from Azerite going everywhere thanks to the Stabbening

#

which also means that hte old gods certainly have access to Azerite now

ruby star
#

Ah yeah ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

zealous basalt
#

Imagine how crushed would be LorThemar

ruby star
#

ikr

zealous basalt
#

...that if Rommath doesnt oofs him

ruby star
#

COuld make him actually do something for once then

#

Rommath: I hate you!

Loth'emar: You were my brother, Rommath. I loved you.

#

Rommaths clothing blows into the lava river and ignites. Suddenly Rommath bursts into flames and starts SCREAMING.

median monolith
#

Whadiya think it could mean?

terse patrol
#

Big if troo

ruby star
#

I mean it could mean nothing

#

but on the otherhand it could so idk

tropic trail
#

I think we're late enough into the beta to ask: any sims for dps?

#

balance seems all over the place

hollow dock
#

We just got our first full class tuning. So no we're not at that point yet

grizzled sleet
#

I think Kultirans / Zandalari may be playable on patch 8.0.5 as we already welcome Kultiras and Zandalar into the alliance / horde at the end of the questlines

#

And maybe Vulpeera / Sethrak will be available with 8.1 as 8.2 seem too far for them

viral terrace
#

I'll race change to Vulpeera 100%

#

Sethrak Warlock

grizzled sleet
#

Sethrak rogue !

#

a racial stealth would fit Sethrak very well

hollow dock
#

We are already told it wont happen until the war campaign progresses tho

viral terrace
#

Where would the Sethrak live though?

hollow dock
#

Out in Voldun after we alliance win it for them

zealous basalt
#

And vulpera?

grizzled sleet
#

Throw then in Orgrimmar

#

them*

viral terrace
#

So is everything but BfA content coming in the pre-patch?

#

Like Golden eyed blood elves?

grizzled sleet
#

Yes

ruby star
#

8.0 - Kul'tiras &Zandalar
8.1 - Nazajater & Plunder Isle (datamined file names)
8.2 - Quel'thalas (updated/all the specualtion stuff/highevles allied race)
8.3 - Dragon isle
my perfect BFA (not that all these will happen)

grizzled sleet
#

What about Bolvar

#

8.4 murloc

ruby star
#

Oh yeah 8.4 and 8.5 could happen

lone charm
#

Highelves ????

#

Omg

#

please god

grizzled sleet
ruby star
#

xD

grizzled sleet
#

High elves will be a waste

#

I prefer something else

ruby star
#

I don't think High Elves would be a waste, but all personal opinion

grizzled sleet
#

Maybe they should unlock new faces / skin colors for void elves instead

restive sage
#

GUYS

ruby star
#

no no no

#

please no

#

it would dilute both races and make no sense

restive sage
#

there is someone on the ptr walking around goldshire WITH THE BIG BOI DINO

viral terrace
#

8.4: Bolvar's Scourge Strikes in Kul Tiras and Zandalar, taking hostage the main leaders of both continents.

ruby star
#

theres a bug where you can get to Kul'tiras

#

on ptr

viral terrace
#

It'll probably be fixed before the pre-patch releases

#

We've reported the bug

#

Multiple times

ruby star
#

^

#

it could already be fixed

#

jsut in an internal build

lone charm
#

guys, btw, is there some channel where i can ask for help about beta?

ruby star
#

this channel

grizzled sleet
#

here

lone charm
#

Ok

ruby star
#

^^

lone charm
#

The problem is i cant do my war compaign

#

I did first quest, where we go to 1 of horde location

#

And then they finished

grizzled sleet
#

what's your lvl?

viral terrace
#

It's level orientated I think

lone charm
#

120

restive sage
#

I know about the bug

#

I'm the one that told everyone about it

#

but i didnt see the brutosaur vender dood ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

lone charm
#

Sooo?

#

Any advice?

elder seal
#

has anyone seen any details about smoldering emberywyrm on Kara

#

will it still be 100% in BFA

#

already got it but saw no info bout it

lone charm
#

Can anyone help?
The problem is i cant do my war compaign
I did first quest, where we go to 1 of horde location
And then they finished, but i 120 already

zinc sandal
#

When will the M+15 artifact appearance be locked? Prepatch or 8.1?

grim sluice
#

POST-BFA release, Does anyone know if I'll be doing artifact stuff like normal through the legion zones then lost the artifact as I move into BFA zones?

#

or will the patch 8 just erase artifacts from everywhere

tranquil steeple
#

BfA will disable all the traits, but iirc the weapon will stay as a stat stick. And I imagine it'll work as normal throughout Legion content, until you're 110, when it's probably gonna disable the traits... but, still be a stat-stick.

zealous basalt
#

Artifacts just become stat weapons

#

Relics increase their item level

grim sluice
#

ok good

#

just making sure I get to experience the artifact progression stuff just coming back

dense plover
#

M+15 appearance isnโ€™t going away

#

Can still be earned in bfa +15

zinc sandal
#

H KJ too?

night swift
#

No thats also staying

zinc sandal
#

Nice!

night swift
#

The only appearance going away is the mage tower base skin

zinc sandal
#

๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿผ

tranquil steeple
#

Only appearance that's removed is the base appearance for Mage Tower, which subsequently removes the possibilty to unlock it's recolors.

night swift
#

You need to get it if you want its other colors though

tranquil steeple
#

Atleast, if you don't have it. If you do have it, then you're safe.

zinc sandal
#

No, I think you can still get the recolors if you have the base appearance.

night swift
#

Wait

oak wraith
night swift
#

Read that wrong

tranquil steeple
zinc sandal
#

By base appearance I meant mage tower base appearance

night swift
#

Base mage tower is going away

#

Base mage tower is required to be unlocked to get the colors though

zinc sandal
#

Yes.

#

But recolors can still be obtained if you have base mage.

tranquil steeple
#

Ye boi

night swift
#

Yes

zealous basalt
#

Mister fuccboi hoppa finally showed up

restive sage
#

๐Ÿ˜ 

zealous basalt
#

Are Legion Mythic + going to be disabled?

viral terrace
#

@zealous basalt Most likely, they said that once pre-patch or bfa hits, we won't be able to get the +15 until they release BfA Mythic+

zealous basalt
#

I see, but can someone confirm?

#

Or we dont know

hollow dock
#

See. this is where a handy website can lead you on the way

#

cuz that's what I did

zealous basalt
#

But do u know?

hollow dock
#

SO as the google results show, yes they'll get disabled in prepatch

zealous basalt
#

Do people find an issue with they being disabled?

hollow dock
#

No idea.

#

Don't think anyones even noticed

restive sage
#

i want 2 do mythic keys ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

night swift
#

Tbf you had all expansion to do them

viral terrace
#

If mythic keystone dungeons will be disabled, does that mean we won't be able to do balance of power?

night swift
#

you can't do quests in mythic plus

hollow dock
#

Balance of power requires you to do mythic dungeons

#

not mythic+

night swift
#

balance of power is normal mythic

hollow dock
#

you won't get keystones anymore

#

but mythic difficulty dungeons are there to stay

night swift
#

Yeah if anything this'll just make balance of power easier to get

#

Cause at 120 we could just 1 or 2 man the dungeons and maybe even the raids

tranquil steeple
#

M+ is prolly just disabled due to affix issues, after scaling (assuming Pre-patch on PTR has the stat squish)

night swift
#

ptr does have the stat quish

modest berry
#

Y'know what would be fucking amazing.

#

If we could donate to the orphanages over the length of the expansion

viral terrace
#

Hm

modest berry
#

And like pimp them the fuck out.

viral terrace
#

By the looks of things, once we have 100 concordance of the Legionfall, our artifacts will break

#

They're currently on 98

#

So it'd make sense for them to break at 100

tranquil steeple
#

At the rate it's going up, seems unlikely to stop at 100, by going up 2 in 2-3 days, compared to previous increase speed

viral terrace
#

Well, we only have tomorrow as the last day for the pre-patch, so if it goes up to 100 tomorrow.

#

Then that's it

tranquil steeple
#

FeelsEUman

#

Well, I guess we can wait and see

viral terrace
#

What time on the 17th does the pre-patch launch?

zealous basalt
#

inb4

#

All the numbers start going nut

#

And the arttifact sticks at 100

tranquil steeple
#

So far I'm expecting 99 by the end of today, and up to 102 or 103 for US reset

viral terrace
#

What time EU will be the pre-patch launch?

zealous basalt
#

Probably in the morning

tranquil steeple
#

8am UTC, Wednesday

zealous basalt
#

At the time of daily quests

#

That

#

Or we got a final boost to 255

#

Or 256

hollow dock
#

I thought the prepatch is releasing

zealous basalt
#

With all the numbers going nuts

hollow dock
#

at the same time worldwide

viral terrace
#

So that would be 9am BST

zealous basalt
#

Oh no

hollow dock
#

So tuesday

#

it hits the EU

#

along with the US

verbal badger
#

does it?

#

I just assumed it would be at the reset time

#

on wednesday

#

but I have no proof or anything

tranquil steeple
#

I haven't seen them say anything about Pre-patch launching at the same time worldwide

verbal badger
#

yeah

hollow dock
#

it'd be weird for them to release BFA at the same time but not release the prepatch at the same time

verbal badger
#

actually

#

you make a good point not because of that

#

but because it reminded me the pre-patch is already downloaded

#

so it'll probably work like an expansion where they just turn it on

#

so that means it probably is global

zealous basalt
#

How do i get

#

The secret appearance for fire?

restive sage
#

wut

tranquil steeple
#

Farm mobs in Suramar City iirc

restive sage
#

does every spec have a secret appearance

verbal badger
#

yes

zealous basalt
#

Wait

restive sage
#

i wanna get mine

zealous basalt
#

So you are telling me to

#

Make a genocide in suramar city?

verbal badger
#

the item drops pretty quickly

#

I can only speak for the havoc one I guess but I did it twice now and it dropped within 20 minutes

#

of felsoul hold farm

tranquil steeple
#

In the "An Illusion?! What are you hiding?!" city? yes.

verbal badger
#

can't imagine it's different for other classes

agile token
#

Farm at the house icon at the top

#

I got it after 10 minutes of mob slaying

zealous basalt
#

Oh

#

Cant I just make a genocide in suramar city and call it a day?

agile token
#

nope

hollow dock
#

you can

agile token
#

well

hollow dock
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but it's not efficient

agile token
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maybe

zealous basalt
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Well

tranquil steeple
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What you want, efficiency, or satisfaction and revenge?

zealous basalt
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The last two

hollow dock
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go genocide suramar then

tranquil steeple
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Then either will do, but it feels better in Suramar since that's the hellhole that makes you want revenge.

night swift
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wait wtf

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How!?

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Also it has Nightborne spelled wrong

agile token
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Fake

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LUL

tranquil steeple
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My gf asked me to help her farm mobs in the city for the appearance, and we got two drops, so she traded one to me

agile token
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No

night swift
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lol

agile token
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It's soulbound

tranquil steeple
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That's true BUT since we were in group it was tradeable within 2h of looting

heavy cairn
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@verbal badger prepatches cannot work "just like an expansion". The content is downloaded but the game would still require at least a restart. Everyone would need to be kicked and the servers need to be restarted. It requires maintenance and thus will probably be at different times for the same reason weekly maintenance and other patches are.

Expansion launches can be done by "flipping a switch" though, the servers are already on 8.0 and have the expansion content ready, as do the clients.

verbal badger
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look...I was just being hopeful

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not wanting to stare at the wall for a while

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while the US has it

night swift
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Its a global release though

heavy cairn
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Hey there's always a chance they will for some reason do maintenance at the same time in EU.

night swift
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We'lll all be getting it

heavy cairn
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But I have my doubts.

viral terrace
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@heavy cairn Actually, that's not true.... We had legion pre-patch for a while and no one had to restart their games to get the starting quest. The quest just popped up on your screen when they activated it

tranquil steeple
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Expansion is, but pre-patch isn't, JHock

heavy cairn
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Megumin, I was talking about prepatch not expansion

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I said prepatch required kick maintenance and restart. Expansion launch does not.

restive sage
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๐Ÿ˜ƒ

heavy cairn
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Due to prepatch being full 8.0 both clients and server just need to flick a switch to access bfa content when the global release time comes.

restive sage
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yup

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which means no downloads

viral terrace
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Oh yeah, that would. I thought you meant that they'd have to quick everyone to launch it. Sorry, I'm super tired.

restive sage
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they just flip the switch and bam you can do everything

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c:

tranquil steeple
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man that moment when you feel a sneeze about to hit

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but it never comes

restive sage
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oof

tranquil steeple
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the suffering

restive sage
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feelsobadman

tranquil steeple
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it's just causing my eyes to water too, AAAAAAA

zealous basalt
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Part of me

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Wants the skin to drop already

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But

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The other part

tranquil steeple
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wants it to not so you can keep killing?

zealous basalt
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Yesss

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Fuck

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It dropped

zealous basalt
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i just noticed something

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The fire mages can attack hp directly in terms of total hp % rather than a stick damage

restive sage
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,-,

zealous basalt
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Greater Pyroblast

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Lowers 35% of HP

lone charm
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Can anyone help?
The problem is i cant do my war compaign
I did first quest, where we go to 1 of horde location
And then they finished, but i 120 already

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Really need help guys

restive sage
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wut

lone charm
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What you dont understand?

restive sage
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uh

uncut vault
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can you take a screenshot of your quest log, it should say what your next step in the war campaign is at the top

lone charm
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@uncut vault
It's on Russian, but it says that I need reputation with 7 legion

uncut vault
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Yeah final stages require revered with 7th Legion

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Unless they tuned it back, you should be pretty close by just doing the war campaign, so go do some 7th legion world quests on zandalar to get the last stretch

lone charm
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I don't have wq!!!!!

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This is why I wrote here

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After I finished 112 lvl quest they stopped