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zealous basalt Jul 12, 2018, 3:45 PM

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Blizzard Shadow Priest battle royale

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 3:45 PM

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but it MUST be done before BFA

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since BFA removes the STM kills you clause

zealous basalt Jul 12, 2018, 3:46 PM

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They should have made it a dot

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So you can see how you slowly die

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 3:46 PM

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they sorta did

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it's when your void bar hits 0

zealous basalt Jul 12, 2018, 3:46 PM

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Nono but with your hp

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So you can try heal yourself but nope

sullen dagger Jul 12, 2018, 3:51 PM

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that would be funny

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but i guess it's exploitable with divine shield or whatever

grizzled sleet Jul 12, 2018, 3:51 PM

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https://youtu.be/jgsbSw8cCJQ?t=2m59s all classes pvp burst

YouTube

Dalaran Gaming

BFA BIGGEST BURST OF ALL CLASSES! - World of Warcraft: Battle For ...

Discord Link: https://discord.gg/3gbktpJ Twitch Streaming Link: https://goo.gl/zW85xe Sensus - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyouJ31CxIPXZu0Hk8WEMAw Banan...

▶ Play video

sullen dagger Jul 12, 2018, 3:52 PM

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best of them all fury warrior

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clearly

grizzled sleet Jul 12, 2018, 3:52 PM

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no, arcane mage lol 0.10 sec

sullen dagger Jul 12, 2018, 3:52 PM

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shitty wizards

grizzled sleet Jul 12, 2018, 3:52 PM

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This timer : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgsbSw8cCJQ&feature=youtu.be&t=770

YouTube

Dalaran Gaming

BFA BIGGEST BURST OF ALL CLASSES! - World of Warcraft: Battle For ...

Discord Link: https://discord.gg/3gbktpJ Twitch Streaming Link: https://goo.gl/zW85xe Sensus - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyouJ31CxIPXZu0Hk8WEMAw Banan...

▶ Play video

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 3:54 PM

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Fury war is hella less bursty

sullen dagger Jul 12, 2018, 3:54 PM

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yeah, removing the artifact skill kinda removedall his burst

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but it's as fun as a clown trainwreck

zealous basalt Jul 12, 2018, 3:56 PM

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You kno

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We should do a 40v40 class spec vs class spec

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 3:56 PM

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what was that mages burst damage

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.10 seconds

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what

grizzled sleet Jul 12, 2018, 3:57 PM

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lol

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 4:51 PM

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so uh

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 4:52 PM

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no

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 4:52 PM

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did everyone choose their main for bfa

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 4:52 PM

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DK for me

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 4:52 PM

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pally for mee

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or should i say pld

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 4:53 PM

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I say DK because Death Knight is lengthy to type out

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so DK is better.

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Pally is the short hand of Paladin.

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 4:54 PM

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pld is even shorter

sullen dagger Jul 12, 2018, 4:54 PM

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YES

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WARRIOR FURY

frigid meteor Jul 12, 2018, 4:54 PM

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does the seahorse work in BFA?

sullen dagger Jul 12, 2018, 4:54 PM

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STABBY MC FACE

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 4:54 PM

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i mained fury warrior in legion

sullen dagger Jul 12, 2018, 4:54 PM

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I STAB WITH MY SORDS

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 4:54 PM

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ya know i might just stay fury

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😦

sullen dagger Jul 12, 2018, 4:55 PM

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SHARP TINGY POITED TO ENEMY

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AND I DO SPIN

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 4:55 PM

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poited

sullen dagger Jul 12, 2018, 4:55 PM

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OH MY GOD DO I SPIN

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 4:55 PM

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do y now

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u

sullen dagger Jul 12, 2018, 4:55 PM

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YES

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man fury warrior is so fun

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i mained retri bubbledin on legion

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deus vult

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fun cute little thing

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but after trying fury on beta, it feels fantastic

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cant go back to paladin

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 4:57 PM

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Dk

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all the way

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I'll summon an army of dead

sullen dagger Jul 12, 2018, 4:57 PM

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ah the good 'ol gypsy dk

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 4:58 PM

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I'll summon a swarm of bugs to infect you with disease

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I'll rot the ground beneath your feet!

sullen dagger Jul 12, 2018, 4:58 PM

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GYPSY CURSES

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 4:58 PM

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YES

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AND I'LL DO WEIRD DANCES AND SPEAK IN A VERY ODD ACCENT WHILE DOING SO

sullen dagger Jul 12, 2018, 4:58 PM

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the bayou answer your call

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OH GOSH

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 4:59 PM

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This is why the trolls say 'Stay away from the voodoo'

sullen dagger Jul 12, 2018, 4:59 PM

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CURSE YOU NOWI NEED TO WATCH SNATCH again

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damn great movie

grizzled sleet Jul 12, 2018, 5:01 PM

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I will never make the same mistake again

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This time I will play all classes

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But not all specs

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Maybe all classes except shaman

sullen dagger Jul 12, 2018, 5:03 PM

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SMART CLASSES ARE BORING

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PICK GOOD CLASES

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WITH HONOR.

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also, magicsucks

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 5:04 PM

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DKS ARE MAGIC

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YOU FOOL

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YOU INCUR THE WRATH OF GYSPY WOMEN

sullen dagger Jul 12, 2018, 5:06 PM

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ACK

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BUT but

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it's ok you use tpointy things

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just dont usemagic

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problem solved

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FURY WARRIOR LOGIC WINS AGAIN AND FOREVER

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 5:06 PM

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oh god

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I CANT DECIDE WHETHER TO STAY FURY WARRIOR OR GO RET PALLY

sullen dagger Jul 12, 2018, 5:07 PM

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dont go pally

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 5:07 PM

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a pox upon your bloodline

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 5:07 PM

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which has more dps

sullen dagger Jul 12, 2018, 5:07 PM

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it''s boring af

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it has even lessrotation than fury

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just saying xD

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 5:07 PM

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oww

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my eyes r hurting from looking at my computer screen

sullen dagger Jul 12, 2018, 5:07 PM

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https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/75072073.jpg

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 5:08 PM

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jk

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._.

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 5:08 PM

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We can't say which will do more

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until Uldir

sullen dagger Jul 12, 2018, 5:08 PM

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agree

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i hope the "let's not do class tiers " dont fuck things up

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 5:09 PM

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I dont think it will

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no tiers means that certain classes won't be propelled over others

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IN THEORY it should actually help even out the DPS charts more

sullen dagger Jul 12, 2018, 5:10 PM

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yeah, but tiers make things nteresting

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and it has been a staple since

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erm

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wotlk?

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i dont remember if in bc had sets

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 5:10 PM

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Eh. Agree to disagree there

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Tiers have been staples of the game since Vanilla o3o

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 5:10 PM

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warlocks are confirmed gonna be at the top of the dps charts

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confirmed by blizzard themselves

sullen dagger Jul 12, 2018, 5:10 PM

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well, that

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 5:11 PM

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tiers 1 2 and 3 were from BWL, AQ20/40 had its own mini-tier, molten core, Ony's lair and naxx

sullen dagger Jul 12, 2018, 5:11 PM

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right

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forgot about that

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how i hated the old naxx

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-_-

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 5:13 PM

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BC had tiers 4-6 and WotLK had tiers 7-10, cata had em 11-13, MoP had 14-17, WoD had 18 and 19, and Legion had 20-23.

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Tho we stopped calling the tiers by their number by WoD

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and we just refered to it by raid

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Like 'BRF tier'

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and such

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 5:13 PM

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so is bfa gonna be vanilla 2.0

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 5:13 PM

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since who cba to remember these god damn tier numbers

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WE NEED A TIER NUMBER SQUISH BLIZZ

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 5:14 PM

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no

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we need a level squish

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 5:14 PM

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I dont think that can work

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like ever

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there's to much content

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 5:14 PM

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i am NEVER leveling anymore alts as long as level 120 is the max

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 5:14 PM

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then don't?

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 5:14 PM

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think about how long its gonna take

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when we reach level 200

sullen dagger Jul 12, 2018, 5:15 PM

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i agree with that

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it's taking more andmore tme to level

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 5:15 PM

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mhm

sullen dagger Jul 12, 2018, 5:15 PM

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i preffered the old leveling system

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 5:15 PM

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soon enough new players are gonna be scared to play

sullen dagger Jul 12, 2018, 5:15 PM

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nah

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since they have a 110 bboost

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they will try the leveling

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get bored

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and sspend the boost

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thats it

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 5:16 PM

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-Bv-Slayer2105 - Today at 1:15 PM
soon enough

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-Bv-Slayer2105 - Today at 1:15 PM
soon enough

sullen dagger Jul 12, 2018, 5:16 PM

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and when you have nothing to play

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yo will level

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 5:16 PM

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nope

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id rather uh

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go on moonguard

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 5:16 PM

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it really doesn't take that long tho

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I've leveled two alts during the 7.3.5 changes. since I dont got much else to do

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 5:17 PM

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oh my god i just noticed since im maining fury i gotta go do mage tower

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 5:17 PM

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took me about 2 and a half weeks of on and off play

sullen dagger Jul 12, 2018, 5:17 PM

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i leveled one

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 5:17 PM

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to get em to 110 and then a week or so to get them to 920 illv

sullen dagger Jul 12, 2018, 5:17 PM

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80 hrs 20-110

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well, 79, but...

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 5:17 PM

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I took around that much time yea.

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just not direct play

sullen dagger Jul 12, 2018, 5:18 PM

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it's alot

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compared to old leveling

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 5:18 PM

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compared to old leveling yes.

sullen dagger Jul 12, 2018, 5:18 PM

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i leveled with somefriends new to wow a year ago

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and it was a breeze

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 5:18 PM

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Well yea. If you maybe had ya know

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old recruit a friend

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 5:18 PM

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how long did vanilla 1 to 60 take

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 5:18 PM

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when the xp thing was 300%

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 5:18 PM

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a month?

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 5:18 PM

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4-6 months

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 5:18 PM

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not even that bad

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 5:19 PM

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1 to 60. 4-6 months.

sullen dagger Jul 12, 2018, 5:19 PM

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yaep

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 5:19 PM

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when you think about how vanilla was that sounds pretty reasonable

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 5:19 PM

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the last two months being the 55-60 grind

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 5:19 PM

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im excited to do it in classic

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 5:19 PM

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Im not

sullen dagger Jul 12, 2018, 5:19 PM

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it took ages, mostly beccause the rests between mobs

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 5:19 PM

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I am only playing classic to have old ashenvale

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and darkshore

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that's it

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 5:19 PM

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it just means your gonna be REALLY dedicated to your character

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 5:19 PM

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once I finish those areas

sullen dagger Jul 12, 2018, 5:19 PM

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you had to recc your mana

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 5:19 PM

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I am NEVER going past it

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 5:19 PM

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._.

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but what if bc comes out

sullen dagger Jul 12, 2018, 5:19 PM

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meneiter

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 5:19 PM

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Don't care

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 5:20 PM

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wotlk???

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 5:20 PM

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I have old ashenvale

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and darkshore

sullen dagger Jul 12, 2018, 5:20 PM

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people willing to play classic again,are crazy

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 5:20 PM

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Im content with just that

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 5:20 PM

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im willing to play classic for the first time lol

sullen dagger Jul 12, 2018, 5:20 PM

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they remember the game with ping tints

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pink*

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 5:20 PM

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i never played it in the first place so its like a brand new mmot o me

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 5:20 PM

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I got to play 'real' vanilla in private servers. It' snot fun

sullen dagger Jul 12, 2018, 5:20 PM

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it's not worthitbv

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 5:20 PM

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DONT SAY THAT WORD

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 5:20 PM

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Pick up any new korean MMO, Slayer

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and play that

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 5:20 PM

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i did

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i got bdo and it sucks weeners

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 5:20 PM

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the experience is roughly the same for vanilla wow

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that's basically what vanilla was.

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Only far buggier

sullen dagger Jul 12, 2018, 5:21 PM

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endless grind

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 5:21 PM

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bdo doesnt even have raids or dungeons

sullen dagger Jul 12, 2018, 5:21 PM

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broken classes

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bdo is a pvp game, dude

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 5:21 PM

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ik

sullen dagger Jul 12, 2018, 5:21 PM

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obviously aint gonna have raids / dungs

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 5:21 PM

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it should

sullen dagger Jul 12, 2018, 5:21 PM

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it relies on control of nodes

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 5:21 PM

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Vanilla for the most part didn't either. Most of the dungeons didn't work or were overtuned.

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 5:21 PM

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should try to appeal to all parties

sullen dagger Jul 12, 2018, 5:22 PM

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it appeals to korean players

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or chinese

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 5:22 PM

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It wasn't until the last patch that vanilla became 'fun' as a properly constructed game

sullen dagger Jul 12, 2018, 5:22 PM

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which are the playable base

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drums of war?

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 5:22 PM

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TBH if WoW's vanilla came out today

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it'd immediately die

sullen dagger Jul 12, 2018, 5:22 PM

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^

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 5:23 PM

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as far as functional games go, it was pretty bad. But it was that, Everquest and Runescape as the big contenders at the time

sullen dagger Jul 12, 2018, 5:23 PM

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better of the bad

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 5:23 PM

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if wows vanilla came out right now it would definetly not die

sullen dagger Jul 12, 2018, 5:23 PM

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also, it was unexplored

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 5:23 PM

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its like bdo with more content

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 5:23 PM

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It would 100%

sullen dagger Jul 12, 2018, 5:23 PM

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now everyone can minmax shit outta vanilla

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 5:23 PM

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BDO was DoA in the West

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 5:23 PM

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no it wasnt LOL

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bdo is one of the most popular mmos

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 5:24 PM

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Clearly you weren't around for BDO's launch when every streamer called for it's death and the game crashed down only to have hte devs scramble to try and rebuild it

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 5:24 PM

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streamers arent everyone that play the game

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 5:25 PM

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the game itself crashed here in the west. It tanked hard and has only started to recuperate its losses my dude. It's hugely successful over in the asian market because it's an asian game.

sullen dagger Jul 12, 2018, 5:25 PM

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YAEP

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i did bught the top tier buying option

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and it was a shitshow the first months

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 5:26 PM

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remember Archeage?

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Oh boy archeage

sullen dagger Jul 12, 2018, 5:26 PM

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99 € spent for naught

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another one

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xD

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every wow killer it's ded

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the only other kinda good mmo it's ff xiv

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and because the rework

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 5:27 PM

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Grindy asian MMOs do not do well here in the west. We don't have the time and they force to many options to be microtransactions

sullen dagger Jul 12, 2018, 5:27 PM

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the first launch was plain shit

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then they fixed kinda like most of the problems

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 5:28 PM

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heck, wow clones don't do well in the western market.

rich apex Jul 12, 2018, 5:30 PM

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WoW chews up and spits out the battered corpses of competition

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khadgarface

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 5:30 PM

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basically. It's got the MTG situation

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it's just so large that it will never die off

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and nothing can dethrone it

rich apex Jul 12, 2018, 5:31 PM

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Exactly

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For bonus points, remember that BFA -pre orders- crashed Bnet's payment system

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 5:31 PM

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Yup.

rich apex Jul 12, 2018, 5:31 PM

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Blizz has been doing this for 13 years and there's still enough demand to break their systems

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 5:31 PM

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WoW is far from dead and nothing is dethroning this badboy in the western market.

rich apex Jul 12, 2018, 5:32 PM

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Other bit aside that Blizz can most certainly afford wildly varying slumps in WoW when they've got Overwatch and Hearthstone

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And Diablo 4 will inevitably sell a boatload whenever they get around to it

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 5:32 PM

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Yup. At this point, blizzard can self-sustain any failures.

rich apex Jul 12, 2018, 5:32 PM

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They already did, given Titan

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 5:33 PM

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Titan wasn't even a full failure. It gave them HOTS. and while HOTS didn't succeed it didn't fail

rich apex Jul 12, 2018, 5:33 PM

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Though Overwatch probably did recoup that lost dev time by now

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But I can certainly see why poor Metzen got anxiety from spending 1-2 years of a presumably high paid dev team's time, and then not have a product to show for the effort

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That'd utterly bone any other dev

zealous basalt Jul 12, 2018, 5:36 PM

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What are we talking now

grizzled sleet Jul 12, 2018, 5:36 PM

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BFA pre-order not only broke Bnet payment systems but also in-game tokens for at least 24 hours

rich apex Jul 12, 2018, 5:36 PM

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The unkillable nature of WoW

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 5:37 PM

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WoW's inability to die. Like MTG.

zealous basalt Jul 12, 2018, 5:37 PM

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Because

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It can be shitty but it's a good shit

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 5:38 PM

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remember when everyone was saying bless online wouldnt die

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and it was gonna be the next big mmo

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 5:39 PM

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I kinda just laugh everytime people say that

grizzled sleet Jul 12, 2018, 5:39 PM

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A new game from 2018 is your argument ?

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 5:39 PM

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He's joining in us in saying that WoW just won't die and nothing is going to uproot it from it's place here in the west

grizzled sleet Jul 12, 2018, 5:40 PM

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murloc

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 5:46 PM

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the game has like 2k players now

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XD

zealous basalt Jul 12, 2018, 5:49 PM

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I prefer WoW than any other MMO tbh

night swift Jul 12, 2018, 5:50 PM

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Same

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 5:50 PM

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hmmmmmm

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if ffxiv didnt have a storyline that takes 8 years to finish before you can do anything it would be a tough decision

grizzled sleet Jul 12, 2018, 5:54 PM

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Once you entrer WoW you are corrupted by the void, you can't find a better MMO unless you're immune to the corruption

ruby star Jul 12, 2018, 5:54 PM

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@zealous basalt WoW is the supreme leader of MMORPGS

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 5:56 PM

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In the western market*

ruby star Jul 12, 2018, 5:56 PM

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Yeah but the other markets don't matter

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 5:57 PM

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there are some mmos better than wow but they arent released over here 😦

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atleast i think they might be better if they ever even release in the first place

ruby star Jul 12, 2018, 5:57 PM

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All Eastern MMORPGS are terrible

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 5:57 PM

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lost ark has been in the making for so many years now

ruby star Jul 12, 2018, 5:58 PM

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Honestly I know it's all personal opinion, but all these eastern games come out and fail, they all try to beat WoW and fail

grizzled sleet Jul 12, 2018, 6:00 PM

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Some are just copy-paste of each other

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 6:00 PM

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is guild wars 2 an eastern game

grizzled sleet Jul 12, 2018, 6:01 PM

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The only to beat WoW is to bring an MMO from another planet / universe

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 6:02 PM

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gw2 ffxiv and eso are the only mmos that have a chance

meager warren Jul 12, 2018, 6:02 PM

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I bet a lot of them are better than WoW in terms of story but not gameplay

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 6:02 PM

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gameplay as in combat?

meager warren Jul 12, 2018, 6:02 PM

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Gameplay as in everything

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 6:02 PM

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most mmos have a better combat system then wow

ruby star Jul 12, 2018, 6:03 PM

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eSO, gw2 and ffxiv won't beat WoW, they have all tried and failed, sure they might be good, but they are not at WoW good

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 6:03 PM

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they havent failed lol

ruby star Jul 12, 2018, 6:03 PM

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read what I said

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 6:03 PM

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yes said

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tey have all tried and failed

ruby star Jul 12, 2018, 6:03 PM

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at beating WoW

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 6:03 PM

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yea

ruby star Jul 12, 2018, 6:03 PM

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exactly

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 6:03 PM

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but the thing is

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they havent failed until they die

ruby star Jul 12, 2018, 6:04 PM

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I never said they failed as a game, they failed at trying to be the WoW killer

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 6:04 PM

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take it like this

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of your trying to be better than someone else at something

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when do you think you fail at goal

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when you both die, or in like 5 years

ruby star Jul 12, 2018, 6:07 PM

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This isn't in worth the discussion, ESO,GW2 and the weeb game, all failed in trying to be the WoW killer, any MMORPG thats tried has failed, hence why it becomes a meme, once WoW dies (doubt it will for a very very long time, it's already lasted this long at the top) then there will be room for a new leader of MMORPGS

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 6:07 PM

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Lots of games tried to be the WoW killer in the west Slayer.

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Short of private servers, nothings come close.

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 6:07 PM

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ffxiv has

ruby star Jul 12, 2018, 6:07 PM

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^^

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No it hasn't slayer

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 6:08 PM

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yuhu

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over 1 mil subs

night swift Jul 12, 2018, 6:08 PM

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ffxiv had to completely redo the game cause it was so bad at launch though

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 6:09 PM

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i just find it weird how wow players speak about other mmos as if they were made just to be more popular than wow

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what does that matter if its a good game now

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 6:09 PM

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I assume you were not paying attention to about the last ten or so years

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When every single mmo that was coming out was proclaiming ti be the next WoW

meager warren Jul 12, 2018, 6:10 PM

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If your only goal is to beat someone, you'll never win

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 6:10 PM

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what mmo creators said themselves that theyre gonna kill wow

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 6:10 PM

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Rift, SWTOR, Guild Wars, And so much more.

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 6:10 PM

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the creators of gw2 never did

meager warren Jul 12, 2018, 6:10 PM

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What slayer said

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 6:10 PM

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or swtor

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 6:10 PM

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I never said GW2.

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 6:11 PM

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you said guild wars

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as in the franchise

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 6:12 PM

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Then you misunderstand. Guild Wars is the first in this series no?

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 6:12 PM

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if your gonna say guild wars 1

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say guild wars 1 lol

ruby star Jul 12, 2018, 6:12 PM

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Why? it only takes common sense to understand what Vris is saying

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 6:13 PM

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take this for example

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if i talk about a certain call of duty like call of duty 3 or something, and i dont specify it, will you know which one im talking about

agile token Jul 12, 2018, 6:15 PM

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Well i never played call of duty so no

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 6:15 PM

#

see

ruby star Jul 12, 2018, 6:16 PM

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sighs

near cosmos Jul 12, 2018, 6:23 PM

#

WHAT IF I TOLD YOU
Whether a game is a WoW killer or not is individual, and depends on which game you happen to like the most

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For some people, XIV is what they wanted from WoW but WoW never was

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 6:23 PM

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i would say thats not how it works

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lol

near cosmos Jul 12, 2018, 6:23 PM

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Then you are wrong

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 6:23 PM

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a wow killer is a game that surpasses wow in population

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and pretty much makes wow die

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aka killing it

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whether you like a mmo with 2k pop or not doesnt make it a wow killer

near cosmos Jul 12, 2018, 6:25 PM

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Then again, that's an impossibility because it would be very difficult to prove that any given MMO leeched subs from WoW

agile token Jul 12, 2018, 6:25 PM

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In this case a wow killer means that the game can surpass the feelings people got from wow

near cosmos Jul 12, 2018, 6:25 PM

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Correlation does not equal causation 😃

agile token Jul 12, 2018, 6:25 PM

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which will never happen

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 6:25 PM

#

eh

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thats not what a killer is tho

near cosmos Jul 12, 2018, 6:26 PM

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Just because another MMO has 15 million subs and WoW goes down to 1m subs, doesn't mean that those 15m came from WoW, so that game didn't necessarily kill WoW

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WoW will die when everyone who has built years and years of memories in WoW stop playing for one reason or another, be it family obligations or death 😛

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It is completely unrelated to any other MMO

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 6:27 PM

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i mean

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it obviously doesnt mean the game sucked every single player from wow lol

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with that logic no mmo can be killed

near cosmos Jul 12, 2018, 6:28 PM

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Which is true. The only thing that can kill an MMO is the company running it, by not running it any more 😛

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Up until the second the servers are shut down, the game is not dead, so long as even one person plays it

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 6:29 PM

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but a wow killer is just an mmo that surpasses wow in players

near cosmos Jul 12, 2018, 6:30 PM

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Calling a game "dead" before that point is people either
a) trying to justify to themselves why they switched to another game
b) trying to make other people feel worse for playing that game instead of the other game

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 6:30 PM

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not really

#

with that logic, bless online isnt dead lol

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which it is of course

near cosmos Jul 12, 2018, 6:30 PM

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Which one are you, A or B?

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Do you feel an intense desire to let people who enjoy Bless know that they are doing it wrong by enjoying that game, and not another game like WoW?

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 6:33 PM

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theres only an a with that

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lol

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wheres the b

near cosmos Jul 12, 2018, 6:34 PM

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well I'm assuming you didn't switch from Bless to WoW so A is out 😛

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 6:34 PM

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if you dont tell me a that point is pointless

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question i mean

lone fern Jul 12, 2018, 7:34 PM

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havent played beta for a few weeks, the traits with a region attached to them, do they only work there?

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like this

📎 unknown.png

zinc sandal Jul 12, 2018, 7:36 PM

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No

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They work everywhere

lone fern Jul 12, 2018, 7:36 PM

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whats the hint for then 🤔

zinc sandal Jul 12, 2018, 7:36 PM

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Could be flavor

heavy cairn Jul 12, 2018, 7:36 PM

#

Are there any other options for other traits.

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Like is there one for e.g. nazmir?

lone fern Jul 12, 2018, 7:37 PM

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no, but i got the item via world quest cache in voldun

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ones not selectable due to spec

heavy cairn Jul 12, 2018, 7:37 PM

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I would think then that it's pure flavour then. To indicate that it can only be obtained from voldun content

lone fern Jul 12, 2018, 7:38 PM

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lets find out 🤷

uncut vault Jul 12, 2018, 7:38 PM

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It comes from Vol’dun is why

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All the non-spec traits say where they come from

lone fern Jul 12, 2018, 7:39 PM

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nop

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not on my old gear at least; immo aura is tank dh exclusive yet it doesnt say where its from

zealous basalt Jul 12, 2018, 7:46 PM

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leans from hole

lone fern Jul 12, 2018, 7:47 PM

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turns out it works :p

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shit traits but +20 level

shy timber Jul 12, 2018, 7:47 PM

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sucks not being able to play the beta in fullscreen

zealous basalt Jul 12, 2018, 7:48 PM

#

Prepatch date?

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 7:53 PM

#

Prepatch date is august

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1st

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2019

zealous basalt Jul 12, 2018, 7:53 PM

#

OOF

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Also

#

What did I miss

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 7:59 PM

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not much

tropic trail Jul 12, 2018, 8:06 PM

#

guys, i was going to roll a different class with the BfA. can someone tell me if it would make sense to get The Legion Fishing Artifact Rod, or will there be a new rod in BfA ?

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don't want to invest time now in the "old" rod

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when there will be a new anyway

agile token Jul 12, 2018, 8:07 PM

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There won't be more

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 8:07 PM

#

there's 0 garauntee that there will be a new rod

#

The more useful traits of the Legion rod will work in BFA

#

it just wont fish up entire pools of fish at a time

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since that's legion fish only

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but it'll give you water walking, the reduction in aggro range while fishing

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etc

tropic trail Jul 12, 2018, 8:08 PM

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okay, thanks guys, then I will get it for my new class!

radiant finch Jul 12, 2018, 8:18 PM

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Does WoWHead has a community on the beta ?

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 8:18 PM

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nothing official as I know

radiant finch Jul 12, 2018, 8:19 PM

#

Is there an unofficial one ?

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 8:23 PM

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not that I know

ruby star Jul 12, 2018, 8:36 PM

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I'm sure if they make one they will announce it

zealous basalt Jul 12, 2018, 9:20 PM

#

And the announcement

grizzled sleet Jul 12, 2018, 9:22 PM

#

What if wowhead post a news saying that prepatch is confirmed to be July 31 (lie) just so that blizzard react and make a real annoucement murloc

rich apex Jul 12, 2018, 9:22 PM

#

Blizz don't give a shit if Wowhead makes a mistake

zealous basalt Jul 12, 2018, 9:23 PM

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I say

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Let's cut the yaks horns

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 9:24 PM

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no yaks r my fave mounts

dense plover Jul 12, 2018, 9:24 PM

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@hollow dock where are you getting the August 1st date?

heavy cairn Jul 12, 2018, 9:24 PM

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August 1st 2019 (split into 3 messages)

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It's just a joke

dense plover Jul 12, 2018, 9:24 PM

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Oh

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 9:24 PM

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whats just a joke

dense plover Jul 12, 2018, 9:24 PM

#

I missed a thing again

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Whoops

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 9:25 PM

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no probs peach

zealous basalt Jul 12, 2018, 9:26 PM

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You are always missing things peach

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Go reforge yourself to expertise and hit

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 9:27 PM

#

topkek

sour burrow Jul 12, 2018, 9:33 PM

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For some reason I picture there being 3 weeks between launch and pre-patch drop.

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 9:33 PM

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k?

heavy cairn Jul 12, 2018, 9:33 PM

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Tobias same

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I don't believe they will launch without one week of notice

#

So that rules out this upcoming Tuesday

sour burrow Jul 12, 2018, 9:34 PM

#

In terms of speculation. Phase 1 Teldrassil, Phase 2 Teldrassil, and then Lorderon.

fresh axle Jul 12, 2018, 9:34 PM

#

It's most likely 24th for US

night swift Jul 12, 2018, 9:34 PM

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Maybe th 24th

sour burrow Jul 12, 2018, 9:34 PM

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That's 3 weeks. Then Prison Escape for actual launch day.

heavy cairn Jul 12, 2018, 9:34 PM

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Yea

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Cuz prison escape is how you go to zandalar

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So it has to be launch day

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 9:35 PM

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yoooo the new elemental models look sikk

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theyre on the ptr

night swift Jul 12, 2018, 9:36 PM

#

you break out of a prison on horde side as well?

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 9:38 PM

#

ugh so its gonna be another week?

#

😦

zealous basalt Jul 12, 2018, 9:40 PM

#

@heavy cairn akrwe talked about this before

#

The Legion prepatch announcement was 2 days before the prepatch itself

sour burrow Jul 12, 2018, 9:42 PM

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Yes, both sides have jailbreak scenarios.

heavy cairn Jul 12, 2018, 9:45 PM

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Legion prepatch was super early and only cut off AOTC, no material benefits (moose obtainable)

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Like afaik legendary ring was still going

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 9:49 PM

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it cut off CM

uncut vault Jul 12, 2018, 9:50 PM

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Alliance is less of a jailbreak, and more of a jail escape, we're the one being jailbroke

zealous basalt Jul 12, 2018, 9:50 PM

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I loved Horde jailbreak

#

"The old wolf is coming for us"

#

And then fucking jaina

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 9:52 PM

#

I really don't understand why she couldn't have frozen them over, left her mages there and dealt with the fires herself and then come and execute the horde infiltrators

rich apex Jul 12, 2018, 9:52 PM

#

Rule of Plot

#

Why is a city of stone flammable?

#

Rule of Plot

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 9:53 PM

#

how did a city of stone catch onto a widespread fire that quickly?

#

Rule of Plot

rich apex Jul 12, 2018, 9:53 PM

#

How did Zul and Talanji (assuming she was sailing for the Horde to reach out for an alliance) end up getting caught by Stormwind?

zealous basalt Jul 12, 2018, 9:53 PM

#

....

rich apex Jul 12, 2018, 9:53 PM

#

Rule of Plot

uncut vault Jul 12, 2018, 9:53 PM

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because cities of stone arent all stone lmao

zealous basalt Jul 12, 2018, 9:53 PM

#

🤔

uncut vault Jul 12, 2018, 9:53 PM

#

you make stone buildings with wood too lol

rich apex Jul 12, 2018, 9:53 PM

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Well, from what we actually see in game

uncut vault Jul 12, 2018, 9:53 PM

#

zul himself comments on that

rich apex Jul 12, 2018, 9:53 PM

#

It's a lot of stone

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And Zul literally comments on it

uncut vault Jul 12, 2018, 9:54 PM

#

he burns a construction site and it spreads

rich apex Jul 12, 2018, 9:54 PM

#

The point is that everything is dumb and illogical in WoW

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 9:54 PM

#

I thought it was some hay

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next to a barn

uncut vault Jul 12, 2018, 9:54 PM

#

they added some logical assets

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 9:54 PM

#

or did they change it

uncut vault Jul 12, 2018, 9:54 PM

#

bunch of construction assets beside the building

#

burns the wood beams and it spreads

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 9:55 PM

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Fire doesn't spread that quickling within what. 3-5 minutes? On treated wood? Was all of stormwinds wooden assets just super dry?

sudden pollen Jul 12, 2018, 9:58 PM

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A city by the sea, you'd think they wouldn't be

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 9:59 PM

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Like. You can't even say that it's not forced plot

sudden pollen Jul 12, 2018, 10:00 PM

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Oh it's definitely forced.
It was better before when Zul was just like "You're gonna let us leave."
And then they just left.

rich apex Jul 12, 2018, 10:00 PM

#

Admittedly

#

With Zul's foresight

uncut vault Jul 12, 2018, 10:00 PM

#

all plot is forced plot

#

its fiction

rich apex Jul 12, 2018, 10:00 PM

#

He probably knows exactly where to light the fire for the greatest effect

#

But exactly

#

WoW is goofy and tropey af

sudden pollen Jul 12, 2018, 10:00 PM

#

Wood fires don't spread that fast. It was a way to get the horde out of there and they cut the realism out of it.

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Which is normal at this point lol

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 10:01 PM

#

the horde player is ofc just trying to say everything is a forced plot :p

urban dew Jul 12, 2018, 10:01 PM

#

I mean, is it magic fire?

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 10:01 PM

#

nope

#

he took a torch

sudden pollen Jul 12, 2018, 10:01 PM

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Nah. Straight just a torch he found on the ground

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 10:01 PM

#

burned some hay near a construction site

#

all of stormwind is now on fire like 2 minutes later

#

as Dorave pointed out, the city by the sea caught fire within 2 minutes.

uncut vault Jul 12, 2018, 10:02 PM

#

its not all of stormwind, it's the buildings above the docks

#

and if jaina doesnt handle it, it will spread to the entire city

sudden pollen Jul 12, 2018, 10:02 PM

#

I mean.

Unless Jaina super freezing everything sucked the moisture out of everything.

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 10:02 PM

#

I mean I point to the scenario I pointed out which seemed far more logical

#

Jaina nad her mages pop up

dense plover Jul 12, 2018, 10:02 PM

#

Fires need heat

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Cold stops heat

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 10:02 PM

#

they freeze the baddies

ruby star Jul 12, 2018, 10:02 PM

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Theres no point debating this, they had to do it for gameplay and a forced plot, realistically/lore wise they wouldn't of been able to escape like that

dense plover Jul 12, 2018, 10:02 PM

#

Puts out fires

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 10:02 PM

#

Jaina alone goes to stop the fires

#

she retursn

#

horde gets executed

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

sudden pollen Jul 12, 2018, 10:03 PM

#

Gg bfa is over guys

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 10:04 PM

#

even better. She just teleports the lot of them back to stormwind, since mass teleportation doesn't require consent.

sudden pollen Jul 12, 2018, 10:04 PM

#

My favorite part of that scenario is Jaina going full halls of reflection arthas on the horde

grizzled sleet Jul 12, 2018, 10:04 PM

#

They was also able to teleport everyone in the broken shore scenario but she didn't

#

Oops I mean she* not they

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 10:04 PM

#

They omitted her existence from Broken Shore

#

just to kill off Varian

#

like

#

cmon

sudden pollen Jul 12, 2018, 10:05 PM

#

I won't say omitted but she seems like she was added after they made the cinematic

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 10:05 PM

#

Blizz makes magic all sorts of hella OP but doesn't want to deal with the consequences of making hella OP magic

ruby star Jul 12, 2018, 10:06 PM

#

sadly they have to do this sort of stuff for forcing a linear story and gameplay

#

it's just like blizzard won't let the alliance use the vindacaar

#

when we could easily win the war with it

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 10:08 PM

#

Blizz just needs to pony up, make rules for magic that also flex into gameplay somewhat; or just do what all other fantasy series do: Let lore be lore and let gameplay be gameplay

#

like Star Wars does

#

SWTOR heavily narrows down what you can do with the force. Doesn't matter for the lore cuz you can still crush planets with it

viral terrace Jul 12, 2018, 10:10 PM

#

Am I allowed to give away beta keys on here? The WoW Twitter just sent me one...

ruby star Jul 12, 2018, 10:10 PM

#

YOu don't want it? O_o

viral terrace Jul 12, 2018, 10:10 PM

#

I won one from WoWHead

rich apex Jul 12, 2018, 10:10 PM

#

Jaina's a lore character tho

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 10:10 PM

#

You can hand out the key to someone yes

viral terrace Jul 12, 2018, 10:10 PM

#

So this is my second one

rich apex Jul 12, 2018, 10:10 PM

#

(other bit aside that the PCs can kill demigods)

ruby star Jul 12, 2018, 10:10 PM

#

I know someone who needs one but up to you what you do

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 10:10 PM

#

I will happily take it mind you

#

Again Hyper, other fantasy settings still have OP fun stuff in games but lorewise it's better restricted.

#

Blizz just doesn't do that with arcane, light or shadow.

rich apex Jul 12, 2018, 10:11 PM

#

Rule of Plot 😛

viral terrace Jul 12, 2018, 10:11 PM

#

@hollow dock Don't you have beta already?

rich apex Jul 12, 2018, 10:11 PM

#

It's less about the magic than about the plot

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 10:11 PM

#

Nah.

rich apex Jul 12, 2018, 10:11 PM

#

Obviously Jaina isn't going to just oneshot Rexxar if they fight

#

Because that's terrible plot

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 10:12 PM

#

Obviously

ruby star Jul 12, 2018, 10:12 PM

#

xd

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 10:12 PM

#

but like the Stormwind Docks situation

#

there's so many other outs

rich apex Jul 12, 2018, 10:12 PM

#

The fact that she can oneshot ice-freeze people in a different scene is ultimately irrelevant

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 10:12 PM

#

that are just left out there

#

it makes the character seem heavily incompetent

#

if we can at least get a say of 'Oh yea they couldn't have done that because of this'

#

it'd make things a lot better

rich apex Jul 12, 2018, 10:13 PM

#

There's a million things Blizz can do better

#

But ultimately they're not going to bend over backwards to ensure every single scene is perfectly logical

#

Because Rule of Plot 😛

#

The plot isn't being written as an actual competition between characters/factions

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 10:14 PM

#

They wouldn't have to. Just don't make the characters seem so grossly incompetent

#

to push a plot point

rich apex Jul 12, 2018, 10:14 PM

#

It's not a Warhammer 40k game of throwing two sides together, rolling the dice based off their strengths/weaknesses, and seeing what happens

#

It's a story and they have a plan for the story to go a certain way

#

A character's only incompetent if the scene is actually painting them as incompetent

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 10:15 PM

#

And when they're able to do something, but do not do it

#

cuz plot

rich apex Jul 12, 2018, 10:15 PM

#

And the heroes are generally depicted as doing their best with shitty situations

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 10:15 PM

#

that makes them look horribl incompetent

rich apex Jul 12, 2018, 10:15 PM

#

That's still not the intent of the scene

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 10:15 PM

#

Let's take other examples of this happening: Tyrande rushing into an ambush from Garroshs' invasion and having to be saved by Varian. Despite having fought orcs that were far stronger and doing far better than she did against garrosh

rich apex Jul 12, 2018, 10:16 PM

#

There's a decent point being made, that when Jaina is forced between chasing her vengeance and saving innocent people

#

She chooses the people

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 10:16 PM

#

Tyrande in Pandaria not realizing a temple is a perfect kill funnel only to have Varian teach her how to war

rich apex Jul 12, 2018, 10:16 PM

#

Okay, I will admit that one is really freaking dumb

#

But it's like

#

The worst example of dumbness

#

It's unfair 😛

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 10:16 PM

#

Which apparently isn't their intent with this Jaina since she has this 'bad side' to her as they describe

#

with the new shorts that are coming out

#

So that intent isn't even all that solid

rich apex Jul 12, 2018, 10:17 PM

#

I mean Jaina's still clearly ready to gun down the Horde in the scenario

#

But ultimately she's not so lost as to kill them at the expense of innocent people elsewhere

terse patrol Jul 12, 2018, 10:19 PM

#

📎 image.jpg

#

my kitten says hi btw

rich apex Jul 12, 2018, 10:19 PM

#

murloc

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 10:20 PM

#

ty honk. Kitten made me less salty.

terse patrol Jul 12, 2018, 10:21 PM

#

hes looking for things to break

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 10:23 PM

#

All kittens do and its adorable

zealous basalt Jul 12, 2018, 10:25 PM

#

Vris

#

I told you

#

Nelves need to retire ready

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 10:26 PM

#

Ya know who needs to retire?

#

The horde.

meager warren Jul 12, 2018, 10:31 PM

#

No. Sylvanas

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 10:32 PM

#

Again I just gotta point out

#

In Siege of Lordaeron, they aren't gunning for the horde. They're gunning for Sylvanas.

#

but apparently the intents behind the Siege aren't as just as they seem*

#

*says a writer from the WoW team

uncut vault Jul 12, 2018, 10:33 PM

#

well, genn also outright says they want lordaeron back

#

its not JUST about capturing sylvanas

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 10:34 PM

#

I never said it was just about capturing Sylvanas

viral terrace Jul 12, 2018, 10:34 PM

#

I heard Sylvanus expected to lose Lordaeron

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 10:34 PM

#

I just said the focus was not on removing the horde, or even crippling them, it was all pointed to Sylvanas. Not the Horde as a whole. Is what I wanted to point out.

uncut vault Jul 12, 2018, 10:34 PM

#

@dense plover looks like contributions are on a cooldown, rotate on an every other basis

#

cant contribute to money dude on my guy that did it last week again

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 10:35 PM

#

i see nothing wrong with wanting blizz to put a lil more effort into some stuff

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

uncut vault Jul 12, 2018, 10:35 PM

#

that may just be for money, though

#

cause last week, engineering dude asked for the ice ammo

#

now hes asking for fire ones

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 10:36 PM

#

ice ammo???

uncut vault Jul 12, 2018, 10:36 PM

#

stuff to attach to ranged weps

#

basically engineering enchants

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 10:36 PM

#

do people even enchant stuff anymore

#

i dont see the reason to

uncut vault Jul 12, 2018, 10:37 PM

#

I mean their purpose has never changed

#

increase your stats

grizzled sleet Jul 12, 2018, 10:37 PM

#

or damage for weapon enchants

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 10:38 PM

#

but you cant enchant art wepos

uncut vault Jul 12, 2018, 10:39 PM

#

yeah and we're not using them next xpac

viral terrace Jul 12, 2018, 10:40 PM

#

@uncut vault Well, we are.... Until level 115-116 unless you're artifact is super low ilvl

#

But if you've got good relics then you will be using it until those levels

uncut vault Jul 12, 2018, 10:40 PM

#

so, not using them

viral terrace Jul 12, 2018, 10:40 PM

#

Then you will probably get an upgrade.

uncut vault Jul 12, 2018, 10:40 PM

#

we're replacing them before max, which is when enchants matter

viral terrace Jul 12, 2018, 10:40 PM

#

They're a stat stick

#

But hey, we keep the appearances in tmog

#

so that's a bonus

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 10:42 PM

#

im using them

#

am not switching wepos

#

ever

#

ok fine 😦

viral terrace Jul 12, 2018, 10:51 PM

#

2 years later:

"Do any of you remember Legion and the artifact weapons? Those were beast yo."

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 10:52 PM

#

100%

grizzled sleet Jul 12, 2018, 10:54 PM

#

5 years later

Do any of you remember BFA Hearth of Azeroth?

zealous basalt Jul 12, 2018, 10:55 PM

#

10 years later

Do you remember that they didnt Announce the prepatch date until 5 hours before?

grizzled sleet Jul 12, 2018, 10:57 PM

#

20 years later

Do you remember Varian?
Varian who ??

tranquil steeple Jul 12, 2018, 10:58 PM

#

30 years later when the horde is gone: "HORDE BIAS"

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 10:59 PM

#

40 years later when wow 2 comes out:

tranquil steeple Jul 12, 2018, 11:00 PM

#

"I miss the original WoW"

zealous basalt Jul 12, 2018, 11:06 PM

#

"It was trash"

#

"But a good trash"

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 11:06 PM

#

"It was trash because back then you couldn't mentally link in there"

#

"God what barbarians we were back then"

ruby star Jul 12, 2018, 11:07 PM

#

Xd

zealous basalt Jul 12, 2018, 11:08 PM

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"But Goldshire II is still the goatx

ruby star Jul 12, 2018, 11:09 PM

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I mean a WoW 2 surely will happen one day?

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WoW can't surely last forever

terse patrol Jul 12, 2018, 11:09 PM

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When MMOs die out for a while.

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MMOs aren't popular now, and won't be for some time.

west relic Jul 12, 2018, 11:29 PM

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WoW 2 won't ever happen.

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It doesn't really have a reason to.

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:33 PM

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It does

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The textures in the old places are dated and stuff

terse patrol Jul 12, 2018, 11:34 PM

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As long as Blizz is making money on WoW, they'll keep updating it.

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So

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:34 PM

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And wow needs a new engine

terse patrol Jul 12, 2018, 11:34 PM

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If anything, we're in WoW 2 already

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:34 PM

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They're not gonna remake everythint

grizzled sleet Jul 12, 2018, 11:34 PM

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No chance, If they make WoW 2 they have to update all old transmogs and mounts and everything, or people will cry about them

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:35 PM

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Uh why

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 11:35 PM

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and by that logic

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why bother tyring to port everything to a new engine

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just update the current one

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

grizzled sleet Jul 12, 2018, 11:35 PM

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Yea they can simply update things slowly, instead of releasing WoW 2 that will take forever

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 11:35 PM

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Which is what they're doing

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I wager within the next expansion or two, we'll see the texture updates to the old world

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:36 PM

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We are gonna need more than that

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 11:36 PM

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Like?

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:36 PM

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Modern stuff like dynamic lighting and godrays

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 11:37 PM

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But.

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Why?

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:37 PM

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Because it looks good

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 11:37 PM

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What does it add to the experience over say

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another dungeon

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:37 PM

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It makes everything look better and more appealing

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 11:37 PM

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can this engine even support that?

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:37 PM

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Exactlt

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 11:37 PM

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and Slayer, this game is now 16 years old

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:37 PM

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Exactlt

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 11:37 PM

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if you account for

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the Vanilla beta

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this game

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will survive

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without god rays

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:38 PM

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It isn't 16 years old

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 11:38 PM

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they aren't required

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If you include the roughly 2 years of Vanilla beta/alpha

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:38 PM

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Whatever

jade basalt Jul 12, 2018, 11:38 PM

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Spending thousands upon thousands of dollars, man hours and every kind of resource to not add content but just * recreate* the same content that already exists (added value = 0) is honestly completely nonsensical from a development standpoint. It will always make more sense to upgrade what you have than start it all over again from scratch.

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:39 PM

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The point is, wow has dated graphics compared to every other mmo on the market. If they aren't willing to remake wow a wow 2 should be in order

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 11:39 PM

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but why

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You just says it looks better that way

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but this game has been on this market

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for 14 years

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:39 PM

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So?

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 11:39 PM

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16 if you count the beta/alpha

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and has been the dominate force on the market

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:39 PM

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10 years ago the games didn't look like that lol

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 11:39 PM

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despite all the 'dated' graphics on it

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:39 PM

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Have you seen games from 10 years ago?

jade basalt Jul 12, 2018, 11:40 PM

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Today's WoW graphics are nothing like the graphics from 12 years ago. Which proves that they don't need to recreate WoW, they just need to keep improving on it.

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 11:40 PM

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hell there are games that are coming out now without godrays and all the fancy graphics

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and are world wide hits

grizzled sleet Jul 12, 2018, 11:40 PM

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And you can play WoW on 4K and still enjoy it

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:40 PM

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Keep improving on it

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 11:40 PM

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Graphics are not a good enough excuse to remake an entire game

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:40 PM

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Uh yea it is

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 11:40 PM

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No it isn't

jade basalt Jul 12, 2018, 11:40 PM

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Nope

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:40 PM

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Yes it is lol

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 11:40 PM

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It really isn't

jade basalt Jul 12, 2018, 11:40 PM

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Especially when they are already more than good enough

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 11:41 PM

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otherwise, games like Cuphead, Undertale, etc would have flopped and never become popular

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:41 PM

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Cuphead?

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 11:41 PM

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Graphics do not make a game

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:41 PM

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My guy

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Cuphead is in a completely different situation

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 11:41 PM

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It's a fully hand drawn game with no godrays. 'shitty' graphics by comparison of every other game on the market.

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:42 PM

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Graphics don't make a game but they make it better

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 11:42 PM

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They really don't

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:42 PM

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They do lol

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 11:42 PM

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if I can't see the game Im playing, I'm not really enjoying my game

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:42 PM

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Can't see the game your playing??

jade basalt Jul 12, 2018, 11:42 PM

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In Heroes of the Storm, they're unwilling for now to give green or blue tint colors to Ragnaros because it would mean having to change his FX and particles and everything as well, and these resources could be used to create a full skin for another hero or create a mount or something.

So re-creating a whole, entire game, 7 expansions of content, billions of items and textures and sounds and FX and data ? Yeah..

agile token Jul 12, 2018, 11:43 PM

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Graphics from WoD and later are good

jade basalt Jul 12, 2018, 11:43 PM

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Cataclysm was the farthest they had gone in terms of 'remaking stuff we already made' and they said they'd likely never do that again

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 11:43 PM

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My experience with things like godrays and extra lightning has always been pretty terrible. To the point of me turning them off.

agile token Jul 12, 2018, 11:43 PM

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The game looks good

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 11:43 PM

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they get in the way of my enjoyment

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:43 PM

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Lol what

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 11:44 PM

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If I wanted the invasion of lights, I'd go watch the Abrams Star Trek

grizzled sleet Jul 12, 2018, 11:44 PM

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Except BC everything else is good atm

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:44 PM

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So, godrays which you see irl make you not want to play?

west relic Jul 12, 2018, 11:44 PM

#

📎 unknown.png

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 11:44 PM

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I wear sunglasses out in public

west relic Jul 12, 2018, 11:44 PM

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It's also still the biggest MMO on the market.

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So...

tranquil steeple Jul 12, 2018, 11:44 PM

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If the only thing it does is make the game prettier than it already is, when it's pretty by itself without those extra settings... fuck it.

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 11:44 PM

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for a reason

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:44 PM

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What does that have to do with its graphics

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Lol

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 11:44 PM

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You wanted to make it about real life

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:44 PM

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When did I make it about real life

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LOL

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 11:45 PM

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I already made that point Thulm. They kinda spat at me

jade basalt Jul 12, 2018, 11:45 PM

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Even if they wanted to, they could not possibly recreate WoW from scratch, you just have no idea what this means honestly. And nobody would allow them. It would make no sense financially.

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 11:45 PM

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[7:44 PM] -Bv-Slayer2105: So, godrays which you see irl make you not want to play?

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are you kidding

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:45 PM

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I said they're also irl

west relic Jul 12, 2018, 11:45 PM

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Meaning that the game doesn't have to look like the latest greatest Unreal Engine crap from EA in order to be a great game with a sizeable playerbase.

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 11:45 PM

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Yes and I countered with my sunglasses

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are you just trolling at this point?

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:45 PM

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What is with people saying that I'm trolling

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Lol

west relic Jul 12, 2018, 11:45 PM

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But basically what @jade basalt just said.

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To a tee.

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:46 PM

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I love how everyone ignored the fact

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 11:46 PM

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It's either you're trolling or woefully ignorant

west relic Jul 12, 2018, 11:46 PM

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MysterySolved

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:46 PM

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That I said if they aren't willing to remake the game

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A wow 2 should come

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 11:46 PM

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that's remaking the game

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are you blind

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:46 PM

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No it isnt lol

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It's making a new game

agile token Jul 12, 2018, 11:46 PM

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????????????????????

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 11:47 PM

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he's woefully ignorant

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this can stop now

tranquil steeple Jul 12, 2018, 11:47 PM

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Why would they make WoW 2 when what we have now is sailing on the seas peacefully without a hitch?

agile token Jul 12, 2018, 11:47 PM

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Slayer you got alot completely confusing points

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:47 PM

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How

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All I said was that they should make a wow 2

jade basalt Jul 12, 2018, 11:47 PM

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'Should we use our resources to make 3 to 6 more expansions ? Or do we just recreate Vanilla-Legion slightly prettier ?'

There's only one choice here really. From both the devs and the players point of view.

west relic Jul 12, 2018, 11:48 PM

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Agreed.

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:48 PM

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Yet again

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Ignoring what I just said

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LOL

jade basalt Jul 12, 2018, 11:48 PM

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'Creating WoW 2' ?

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:48 PM

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Yes

jade basalt Jul 12, 2018, 11:48 PM

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I literally addressed that.

tranquil steeple Jul 12, 2018, 11:48 PM

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WoW 2 = "here's the game you already play, without everything you already have, and have to re-do everything... enjoy"

west relic Jul 12, 2018, 11:48 PM

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Alright. Give me on really good reason why a WoW 2 is "needed"

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:49 PM

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Alright so first off

west relic Jul 12, 2018, 11:49 PM

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One reason.

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Not two.

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One.

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:49 PM

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Why would i give you just one lol

west relic Jul 12, 2018, 11:49 PM

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Because you should be able to drive home your point with just one.

jade basalt Jul 12, 2018, 11:49 PM

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Emphasis on 'needed' as well.

west relic Jul 12, 2018, 11:49 PM

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If there is one.

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:49 PM

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alright

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even though that makes no sense

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one reason is that if they did make a wow 2 they could make it in a different engine without having to remake everything.

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which would make it appeal to more people that are used to other mmos

west relic Jul 12, 2018, 11:51 PM

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Travolta

jade basalt Jul 12, 2018, 11:51 PM

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That sentence is contradicting itself

west relic Jul 12, 2018, 11:51 PM

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Hence the travolta.

agile token Jul 12, 2018, 11:51 PM

#

📎 394165937604919296.gif

uncut vault Jul 12, 2018, 11:51 PM

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making it in a different engine IS remaking everything

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:52 PM

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LOL no it isnt

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if you make a sequel of a game, is it a remake

jade basalt Jul 12, 2018, 11:52 PM

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I'm not sure you know what an engine is

uncut vault Jul 12, 2018, 11:52 PM

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if its in a different engine

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yes

tranquil steeple Jul 12, 2018, 11:52 PM

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WoW 2 = "here's the game you already play, without everything you already have, and have to re-do everything... enjoy"

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:52 PM

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no lol it isnt

west relic Jul 12, 2018, 11:52 PM

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Khehe

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:52 PM

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your not remaking the game

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your making a new game when you make a sequel

uncut vault Jul 12, 2018, 11:52 PM

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I feel like you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what an engine is

west relic Jul 12, 2018, 11:52 PM

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FeelsZugMan

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I'm just going to respond with emojis that represent how I feel about the current conversation.

jade basalt Jul 12, 2018, 11:53 PM

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You're asking for a new engine

When they already have a working engine

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:53 PM

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an outdated engine

jade basalt Jul 12, 2018, 11:53 PM

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So they'd have to make everything all over again

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:53 PM

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that limits what they can do

tranquil steeple Jul 12, 2018, 11:54 PM

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A working engine for what they want to do

west relic Jul 12, 2018, 11:54 PM

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No @jade basalt it's like the engine in your car. Just because your 2000 Toyota Corolla is now 18 years old, you must replace it.

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Not because it needs to be replaced.

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But just because.

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For no reason.

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:54 PM

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that is a completely different thing lol

west relic Jul 12, 2018, 11:55 PM

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It's literally what you're saying.

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:55 PM

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not quite

uncut vault Jul 12, 2018, 11:55 PM

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what is the NEED to replace it?

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what issues does it have?

west relic Jul 12, 2018, 11:55 PM

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There isn't any.

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:55 PM

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there is loll

zealous basalt Jul 12, 2018, 11:55 PM

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I dont see any issue with the engine

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:55 PM

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think of it like a graphics card

west relic Jul 12, 2018, 11:55 PM

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"Don't fix what isn't broken"

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:56 PM

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it plays the game at medium

jade basalt Jul 12, 2018, 11:56 PM

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Some parts of the current engine are outdated, yes. But the 2018 engine has nothing to do with the engine they started with, it's a completely different beast. And it will always be more worth it to keep improving that engine than making a whole other one from scratch just for it to do the exact same thing.

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:56 PM

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but you could get a new one that plays it on ultra 😛

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and thats only part of it

west relic Jul 12, 2018, 11:57 PM

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LoreFP

grizzled sleet Jul 12, 2018, 11:57 PM

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Engine doesn't work like a graphic card, no reasn to compare them

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:57 PM

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missing the point yet again

tranquil steeple Jul 12, 2018, 11:57 PM

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So you'd rather throw away a sandwich you made, and started eating, just to make a new one?

agile token Jul 12, 2018, 11:57 PM

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There is no point

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at all

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in what you are saying

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:57 PM

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hmm

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if you think of it like a sandwich

agile token Jul 12, 2018, 11:58 PM

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Because it goes nowhere

grizzled sleet Jul 12, 2018, 11:58 PM

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Not a sandwich, a WHOLE WORLD

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:58 PM

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its like making a sandwich that you dropped on the floor

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would you make a new one

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or just eat it

jade basalt Jul 12, 2018, 11:58 PM

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I have a car. I bought it 10 years ago. Since then I have replaced a few parts, customized a few others, I painted it red, I added cool lightning bolts on the sides for style. I can either keep making it cooler and cooler, or go literally build another car from scratch piece by piece by myself. Blizzard will do #1.

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:58 PM

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yea it still OKAY

grizzled sleet Jul 12, 2018, 11:58 PM

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I just destroyed earth to make a new world, and everyone is happy now but wait, what if I destroy again to make a better one

west relic Jul 12, 2018, 11:59 PM

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dummerboi

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:59 PM

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what

tranquil steeple Jul 12, 2018, 11:59 PM

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I'm not saying it was dropped or anything else but taken a bite out of (by you)

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Would you go make a new one, even though you already had one?

jade basalt Jul 12, 2018, 11:59 PM

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If it's okay it doesn't need spending millions of dollars to 'fix' it.

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 11:59 PM

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that doesnt describe wows engine

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tho

uncut vault Jul 13, 2018, 12:00 AM

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america has problems, we should destroy it and make a whole new one :^)

jade basalt Jul 13, 2018, 12:00 AM

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It's okay. They are fine with okay. That 'okay' brings them billions of dollars of revenue. They're okay with okay.

west relic Jul 13, 2018, 12:00 AM

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I now know you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

restive sage Jul 13, 2018, 12:00 AM

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i love how my whole point

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was that i wanted to see a wow 2 one day

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and it turned into this

tranquil steeple Jul 13, 2018, 12:00 AM

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wanting wow2 when there's no reason to have a wow2

📎 disgustang.PNG

terse patrol Jul 13, 2018, 12:01 AM

#

this guy is reminding me of that one guy who would come in here a lot

restive sage Jul 13, 2018, 12:01 AM

#

thats like saying

terse patrol Jul 13, 2018, 12:01 AM

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and he'd just make everyone angry

zealous basalt Jul 13, 2018, 12:01 AM

#

Ryz?

restive sage Jul 13, 2018, 12:01 AM

#

theres no reason for there to be a new call of duty every year

terse patrol Jul 13, 2018, 12:01 AM

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idk

west relic Jul 13, 2018, 12:01 AM

#

JainaCorn

zealous basalt Jul 13, 2018, 12:01 AM

#

Did hou

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You

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Compared cod

restive sage Jul 13, 2018, 12:01 AM

#

mhm

zealous basalt Jul 13, 2018, 12:01 AM

#

...

tranquil steeple Jul 13, 2018, 12:01 AM

#

📎 come_on.PNG

west relic Jul 13, 2018, 12:02 AM

#

facedesk

restive sage Jul 13, 2018, 12:02 AM

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its uh

tranquil steeple Jul 13, 2018, 12:02 AM

#

One of the few cases where I actually think my brother isn't stupid after all...

restive sage Jul 13, 2018, 12:02 AM

#

nice to know

jade basalt Jul 13, 2018, 12:02 AM

#

Which is a bad example because nearly all the CoD since BO2 look the same because they use the same or a similar engine

restive sage Jul 13, 2018, 12:02 AM

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that i cant express my opinion here tho

terse patrol Jul 13, 2018, 12:03 AM

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mfw listening to this

📎 image.jpg

restive sage Jul 13, 2018, 12:03 AM

#

cod bo2 also looks nothing like bo3 in terms of graphics

terse patrol Jul 13, 2018, 12:03 AM

#

@west relic

west relic Jul 13, 2018, 12:03 AM

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Actually me @terse patrol

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Regret

agile token Jul 13, 2018, 12:04 AM

#

Slayer

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You said everything you had to say

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so thank you for saying what you think you know

jade basalt Jul 13, 2018, 12:05 AM

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It does. Another difference is that Call of Duty's are throwaway games. They are built, sold, forgotten. Make another one that is slightly different, make millions, throw away. Kind of like PES and Fifa. WoW is an evolving world that is meant to last literally decades, they add content to it, they don't scrap it and throw it away every year.

restive sage Jul 13, 2018, 12:05 AM

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what i think i know????

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i KNOW that i want a wow 2

agile token Jul 13, 2018, 12:05 AM

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yes

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you know that

restive sage Jul 13, 2018, 12:05 AM

#

and that it would have better graphics than wow 1

agile token Jul 13, 2018, 12:06 AM

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But is it logical for it to be done? Nope

restive sage Jul 13, 2018, 12:06 AM

#

does it have to be for you to want it
?

jade basalt Jul 13, 2018, 12:06 AM

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Honestly, not really. You want 'better graphics' for WoW (which is a fair opinion), you don't need or even want a WoW 2.

agile token Jul 13, 2018, 12:06 AM

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So do with what you have because the game looks good

grizzled sleet Jul 13, 2018, 12:06 AM

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Slayer....... Your crusade...is.... OVER!

restive sage Jul 13, 2018, 12:06 AM

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uh what

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my crusade?

tranquil steeple Jul 13, 2018, 12:06 AM

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hey see this perfectly working car? yeah let's scrap it and buy a new one that has different rims

west relic Jul 13, 2018, 12:06 AM

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I'm on my second bag of popcorn.

restive sage Jul 13, 2018, 12:07 AM

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litteraly triggered everyone because of an opinion

grizzled sleet Jul 13, 2018, 12:07 AM

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That's what Amanthul said to Sargeras murloc “Brother, your crusade is over!”

jade basalt Jul 13, 2018, 12:07 AM

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Should I add caramel to your popcorn or go harvest corn and make you new caramelized popcorn from scratch

west relic Jul 13, 2018, 12:07 AM

#

KhadgarHarhar popcornR

jade basalt Jul 13, 2018, 12:07 AM

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I'm being sarcastic, I think I have just said everything I had to say on this subject.

grizzled sleet Jul 13, 2018, 12:08 AM

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Or you didn't kill Argus yet ? murloc

restive sage Jul 13, 2018, 12:08 AM

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i killed argus lol

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i just skipped the cutscene

terse patrol Jul 13, 2018, 12:08 AM

#

This has to be the same guy

grizzled sleet Jul 13, 2018, 12:08 AM

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If you skipped the cutscene why do you want WoW 2 ? murloc

west relic Jul 13, 2018, 12:08 AM

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New rims.

restive sage Jul 13, 2018, 12:09 AM

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for better graphics

terse patrol Jul 13, 2018, 12:09 AM

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This has to be Rys

restive sage Jul 13, 2018, 12:09 AM

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what does skipping the cutscene even have to do with that

grizzled sleet Jul 13, 2018, 12:09 AM

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If you don't enjoy the cinematic why would you enjoy WoW 2 with better graphics ? murloc

restive sage Jul 13, 2018, 12:10 AM

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because i dont watch cutscenes in general???

agile token Jul 13, 2018, 12:10 AM

#

wait why would u skip a cinematic you haven't seen it before?

west relic Jul 13, 2018, 12:10 AM

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Because the rims spin.

restive sage Jul 13, 2018, 12:10 AM

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because i dont care about it???

agile token Jul 13, 2018, 12:10 AM

#

That's like trying to not play the game

terse patrol Jul 13, 2018, 12:10 AM

#

Guys

jade basalt Jul 13, 2018, 12:10 AM

#

Also keep in mind that WoW's style will always be cartoony. The graphics can onlt get so much 'better', they'll never become Skyrim or Crisis level of realistic, in fact they'd just be pretty much the same, or rather marginally better.

terse patrol Jul 13, 2018, 12:10 AM

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He’s a troll.

restive sage Jul 13, 2018, 12:10 AM

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how is that trying to not play the game???

terse patrol Jul 13, 2018, 12:10 AM

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I’m 90% sure this is Rys again.

#

Should just ban him and be done with it.

restive sage Jul 13, 2018, 12:10 AM

#

ban me?

agile token Jul 13, 2018, 12:10 AM

#

Because you ignored a part of the game on purpose

restive sage Jul 13, 2018, 12:10 AM

#

for saying i want wow 2?

west relic Jul 13, 2018, 12:11 AM

#

Is that a request?

tranquil steeple Jul 13, 2018, 12:11 AM

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that's a tad extreme

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and lul Thulm

terse patrol Jul 13, 2018, 12:11 AM

#

I think it was.

restive sage Jul 13, 2018, 12:11 AM

#

there was a question mark infront of it

tranquil steeple Jul 13, 2018, 12:11 AM

#

after

west relic Jul 13, 2018, 12:11 AM

#

That usually happens with requests.

restive sage Jul 13, 2018, 12:11 AM

#

after it

zealous basalt Jul 13, 2018, 12:11 AM

#

Wait

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A mod

#

HEY THULM

west relic Jul 13, 2018, 12:12 AM

#

finger_wave

zealous basalt Jul 13, 2018, 12:12 AM

#

Where is the date

tranquil steeple Jul 13, 2018, 12:12 AM

#

khadgarface

west relic Jul 13, 2018, 12:12 AM

#

RedFlippedman

restive sage Jul 13, 2018, 12:12 AM

#

nice to know that you can get banned for saying you want wow 2

zealous basalt Jul 13, 2018, 12:13 AM

#

grabs small bread cupcake gun

grizzled sleet Jul 13, 2018, 12:13 AM

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You will get WoW 2

agile token Jul 13, 2018, 12:13 AM

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oh come on slayer

grizzled sleet Jul 13, 2018, 12:13 AM

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in 2105

west relic Jul 13, 2018, 12:13 AM

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You can't be banned for wanting a WoW 2.

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But if you are seriously requesting a ban, I can oblige your request.

grizzled sleet Jul 13, 2018, 12:13 AM

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Just wait for 2105

restive sage Jul 13, 2018, 12:14 AM

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when did i request a ban

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lol

west relic Jul 13, 2018, 12:14 AM

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