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ruby star Jul 10, 2018, 11:30 PM

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@uncut vault is he? I have not seen him on neta

hollow dock Jul 10, 2018, 11:30 PM

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She isn't Slayer. She's just misunderstood

restive sage Jul 10, 2018, 11:30 PM

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she has a bow

ruby star Jul 10, 2018, 11:30 PM

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And ah true Vris

hollow dock Jul 10, 2018, 11:30 PM

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and morally grey

restive sage Jul 10, 2018, 11:30 PM

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thats evil

terse patrol Jul 10, 2018, 11:30 PM

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tbh tho, why the hell did Tyrande do the talking, and not the leader of the Shen'dralar?

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Or the Moonguard, even

hollow dock Jul 10, 2018, 11:30 PM

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Because Suramar is Tyrande's home

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her birth city

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those are her people

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ya dingus

terse patrol Jul 10, 2018, 11:31 PM

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yeah but

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Highborne dealing with Highborne

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Highborne who btw

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Hid under a bubble too.

uncut vault Jul 10, 2018, 11:31 PM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/407922285282852865/461947639735517204/image.jpg

zealous basalt Jul 10, 2018, 11:31 PM

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This looks like a real fite betwee horde and alliance

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can we kill those two

uncut vault Jul 10, 2018, 11:31 PM

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after you turn in the prepatch quests

hollow dock Jul 10, 2018, 11:31 PM

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why Mak

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they're literally the only characters who know how to wage a massive scale war

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since they waged ya know

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several

zealous basalt Jul 10, 2018, 11:32 PM

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Did they?

hollow dock Jul 10, 2018, 11:32 PM

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Yes

terse patrol Jul 10, 2018, 11:32 PM

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er

zealous basalt Jul 10, 2018, 11:32 PM

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Are you sure they didn't make those?

terse patrol Jul 10, 2018, 11:32 PM

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They beat the Burning Legion twice?

hollow dock Jul 10, 2018, 11:32 PM

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They didn't

ruby star Jul 10, 2018, 11:32 PM

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@uncut vault interesting I wonder what Malfurion plans to do now?

uncut vault Jul 10, 2018, 11:32 PM

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well, seems like nothing

hollow dock Jul 10, 2018, 11:32 PM

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The burning legion's invasion first time was Azshara, second was the Saytr.

uncut vault Jul 10, 2018, 11:32 PM

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since the speech people thought was malf is actually anduin

tulip sun Jul 10, 2018, 11:32 PM

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Theyll likely take lead when we fight Azshara, at least for the alliance

ruby star Jul 10, 2018, 11:33 PM

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Perhaps they have something secret planned for him

hollow dock Jul 10, 2018, 11:33 PM

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Let's also not forget the war of the shifting sands, the war against Grom and the Horde inbetween second and third wars.

tulip sun Jul 10, 2018, 11:33 PM

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Thalyssra for Horde

hollow dock Jul 10, 2018, 11:33 PM

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etc

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etc

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etc

terse patrol Jul 10, 2018, 11:33 PM

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Just because Blizzard declawed the Night Elves in WoW doesn't mean they aren't still dangerous.

hollow dock Jul 10, 2018, 11:33 PM

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^

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jackrabbits hurt

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like heck

terse patrol Jul 10, 2018, 11:34 PM

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mfw the leader of the Shen'dralar doesn't even show up in Legion

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https://wow.gamepedia.com/Mordent_Evenshade

Wowpedia

Mordent Evenshade

Archmage Mordent Evenshade is the leader of the Shen'dralar Highborne that have reintegrated night elven society.

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archmage

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isnt in Dalaran

tulip sun Jul 10, 2018, 11:35 PM

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Not in bfa yet either

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I think

uncut vault Jul 10, 2018, 11:35 PM

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hey now, the highborne are getting development in bfa!

tulip sun Jul 10, 2018, 11:35 PM

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He should appear since his new home is ded

uncut vault Jul 10, 2018, 11:35 PM

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they finally got in the temple

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as its burning around them

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murloc

tulip sun Jul 10, 2018, 11:35 PM

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Well

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They are the reason civilians escape

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But no mordent

terse patrol Jul 10, 2018, 11:36 PM

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ye the Highborne make portals to Stormwind

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buuuut

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Their leader isnt seen

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But hey, we got ONE Highborne in Dalaran.

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https://wow.gamepedia.com/Archmage_Aranhir_Starsinger

Wowpedia

Archmage Aranhir Starsinger

Archmage Aranhir Starsinger is Highborne night elf found in Dalaran.
He is in charge of the Simply Enchanting shop, but is usually away on Kirin Tor business.

ruby star Jul 10, 2018, 11:36 PM

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Blizz prob forgot him

terse patrol Jul 10, 2018, 11:36 PM

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. . . A enchanting shop NPC.

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here's hoping Farondis can join the Alliance. 😉

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gib me ghost highborne

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but ye

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Its just agitating how Blizz seems to forget characters.

uncut vault Jul 10, 2018, 11:39 PM

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welcome to gnome life

terse patrol Jul 10, 2018, 11:40 PM

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also'

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they seemingly forgot about Maiev going insane in Cataclysm.

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She was murdering Highborne in Darnassus.

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Her brother beats her in a fight and lets her run off.

ruby star Jul 10, 2018, 11:42 PM

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Funny how blizz remembers some characters and forgets some

terse patrol Jul 10, 2018, 11:42 PM

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The next time we see her, she's perfectly accepted again.

ruby star Jul 10, 2018, 11:42 PM

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Like how they remembered Auric Sunchaser or whatever his name is (after naming a island team after him)

terse patrol Jul 10, 2018, 11:43 PM

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All my salt, that Blizzard just ignores the Alliance Highborne.

restive sage Jul 10, 2018, 11:43 PM

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is there a big war going on in bfa

terse patrol Jul 10, 2018, 11:43 PM

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Especially since they got the Nightborne.

restive sage Jul 10, 2018, 11:43 PM

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when will there be 100 v 100 pvp

tulip sun Jul 10, 2018, 11:46 PM

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Uhhh

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My computer would suicide

uncut vault Jul 10, 2018, 11:47 PM

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she wasnt really perfectly accepted

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shes interacted with three night elves

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an illidari

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illidan

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and her brother

tulip sun Jul 10, 2018, 11:47 PM

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The only one to accepg her was her brother

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And ya

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Illidan, real shocker he dont give any craps

uncut vault Jul 10, 2018, 11:47 PM

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maiev admitted she made mistakes, and jarod forgave her

terse patrol Jul 10, 2018, 11:48 PM

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I know Blizz has been thinking about making Maiev the Nelf leader but I doubt it.

tulip sun Jul 10, 2018, 11:49 PM

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You know?

rich apex Jul 10, 2018, 11:53 PM

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🤔

restive sage Jul 10, 2018, 11:56 PM

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nelf

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sounds weeird

agile token Jul 11, 2018, 12:09 AM

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Maiev would never be in the role of a night elf leader

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Like never

grizzled sleet Jul 11, 2018, 12:10 AM

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Maiev Queen of Stormwind

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Illidan King of Stormwind

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Anduin the betrayer

restive sage Jul 11, 2018, 12:14 AM

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ooooooooh

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that wuld be so kewwl

mint arch Jul 11, 2018, 12:58 AM

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@ruby star forget is kinda too generous, i could easily see the current blizzard writers not even knowing about him

terse patrol Jul 11, 2018, 12:59 AM

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i dont get it though

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Wowpedia is there.

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“Hm, I want to write about Highborne, lets see whats in game already.”

mint arch Jul 11, 2018, 1:01 AM

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"but no time to research old lore as we gotta force our narrative"

supple wharf Jul 11, 2018, 1:02 AM

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story? who needs that for World of M+craft 😛

mint arch Jul 11, 2018, 1:02 AM

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GWcentralPikaLUL

supple wharf Jul 11, 2018, 1:03 AM

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confused why over the years blizzard has decided that rpg is meant more to be for casuals than to be an undertaking

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it took forever to level back in the day..now you're level cap in 2-3days

crystal forum Jul 11, 2018, 1:04 AM

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No no no hahah

mint arch Jul 11, 2018, 1:04 AM

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well, there is more levels now

crystal forum Jul 11, 2018, 1:05 AM

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The leveling was "fixed".. Right? I can't max in 2 days anymore unless I spend all 24 hours of the day online.

supple wharf Jul 11, 2018, 1:05 AM

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world of altcraft 😛

mint arch Jul 11, 2018, 1:05 AM

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its longer-ish now

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2-3 days played time

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with heirlooms

supple wharf Jul 11, 2018, 1:05 AM

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yeah need like 12-18 hr a day spamming lfg

crystal forum Jul 11, 2018, 1:05 AM

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I mean it's not like it was, is what I should say.

uncut vault Jul 11, 2018, 1:06 AM

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I mean, the genre adapted with the times

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 1:06 AM

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one reason that the change in philosophy happened as I have observed is well

uncut vault Jul 11, 2018, 1:06 AM

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people dont have time to dedicate an entire day to a game anymore

mint arch Jul 11, 2018, 1:06 AM

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^

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 1:06 AM

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the recession. People haven't the time to stay online for days at a time

mint arch Jul 11, 2018, 1:06 AM

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its different time to 2004

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 1:06 AM

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they need tow ork more to get more money to play the same amount of time

mint arch Jul 11, 2018, 1:06 AM

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ppl who think classic would be successful today are delusional

supple wharf Jul 11, 2018, 1:06 AM

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yeah but as rpg's go, the whole genre isnt supposed to be just drop in for 20 min and win then leave casual 😛

mint arch Jul 11, 2018, 1:06 AM

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classic would fail so hard if released today

crystal forum Jul 11, 2018, 1:06 AM

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I can only play a few hours a day on non-raid days. So my 2 allied race characters are 42 and 57

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 1:07 AM

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Perhaps in other markets such as the Asian market

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but here in the states, a lot more people just dont have the time to dedicte

supple wharf Jul 11, 2018, 1:07 AM

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yeah im wondering how they're going to gut classic out to make viable to the instant grats people

crystal forum Jul 11, 2018, 1:07 AM

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Compared to in wod when I maxxed 3 characters in 2 days

uncut vault Jul 11, 2018, 1:07 AM

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they wont, thankfully

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 1:07 AM

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Another thing shaggy is tha

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that

uncut vault Jul 11, 2018, 1:07 AM

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so we can be rid of people trying to make live game like 'the good old days'

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 1:07 AM

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the game shifted in design philosophy

mint arch Jul 11, 2018, 1:08 AM

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leveling now is better than its ever been, but i dislike that they removed the fast leveling methods for ppl who want alts quick

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 1:08 AM

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sure the world is still worked on heavily

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but its no longer the focus

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Back in vanilla, with so few raids available, end game content wasn't a thing

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so you artificially spaced content in the world itself.

supple wharf Jul 11, 2018, 1:08 AM

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yeah if you had raid gear you were og

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 1:08 AM

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But in BC, things changed. You had a massive increase in raids and raiding content, in PVP content,

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and no one wants to waste time for 3-4 mnths leveling

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whena ll the fun content is at max level

crystal forum Jul 11, 2018, 1:09 AM

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I don't know man vanilla seems so??? Boring? Like for the first character run through fun- yet grindy- but after that it's just the same thing over and over every week since there's nothing "new" coming. Just the same content.

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 1:09 AM

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so by WotLK they started to ease the XP gap.

mint arch Jul 11, 2018, 1:09 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

crystal forum Jul 11, 2018, 1:09 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

mint arch Jul 11, 2018, 1:09 AM

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apparently some ppl want the classic shit until they're 80

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same shit over and over

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 1:09 AM

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then in cata they nerfed down the gap of XP needed to level up to speed things up

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since at that point, raiding and ranked PVP became the focus of teh game.

crystal forum Jul 11, 2018, 1:10 AM

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I think personally I'll make a character on the classic realm, just to see how it is. goof off, Yknow. But I'll be sticking to live otherwise.

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 1:10 AM

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at the same time, the recession hits the US and people need convenience to see the content theyre missing out on. since they have to work more to earn the same money

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 1:16 AM

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Someone rekt Vris with weebs

mint arch Jul 11, 2018, 1:26 AM

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GWnanamiTuturu

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GWcentralKongouNoo

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GWshizuRumiaEatIt

tulip sun Jul 11, 2018, 1:27 AM

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O.o

mint arch Jul 11, 2018, 1:27 AM

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GWnanamiCoolSquid

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HONK

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mah man with the superior weeb emotes GWovoYayy

tulip sun Jul 11, 2018, 1:28 AM

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Will stromgarde still ve playable once barrens releases?

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Hmmm

restive sage Jul 11, 2018, 1:29 AM

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barrens??

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stromgarde?

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what are these places

tulip sun Jul 11, 2018, 1:29 AM

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Uhhh, a human kingdom and a kalimdor zone

restive sage Jul 11, 2018, 1:29 AM

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didnt those places release

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already

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-_-

tulip sun Jul 11, 2018, 1:29 AM

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-sigh-

uncut vault Jul 11, 2018, 1:30 AM

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itll likely go on a cycle

restive sage Jul 11, 2018, 1:31 AM

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hmmm

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am i missing something

mint arch Jul 11, 2018, 1:31 AM

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GWnanamiRemHmmm

uncut vault Jul 11, 2018, 1:32 AM

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when one owns arathi, the other owns barrens

terse patrol Jul 11, 2018, 2:01 AM

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Ye

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Imagine how annoyed people would be if one side owned both

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 2:03 AM

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"BIAS"

mint arch Jul 11, 2018, 2:26 AM

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B I A S

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S A I B

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 2:49 AM

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I swear to god

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I understand what Metzen tried to say when he left about tingling and such

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With such a community like us

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 2:50 AM

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I think it was more than a tingling

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 2:50 AM

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It wont surprise me if Ion leaves Blizzard with PTSDs everytime he hears the word "Bias"

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I can imagine him

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Chilling in the future

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When someone mentions the word bias

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And he gets like "HIGH ELVES DONT EXIST YOU CANT PLAY LIKE THEM"

mint arch Jul 11, 2018, 2:52 AM

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he made an expansion on AvH

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bias is always going to be that stupid thing ppl bring up when it comes to factions

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 2:52 AM

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Yep

rich apex Jul 11, 2018, 2:58 AM

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Golden wore a Sylvie t shirt

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clear bias

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📎 Warcraft_meme_76.png

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 2:59 AM

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Who is Kevin

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I need to know

tulip sun Jul 11, 2018, 3:01 AM

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When someone first linked that, I thought for a few seconds it was a real video blizz put out, lol.

restive sage Jul 11, 2018, 3:19 AM

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loool

charred arch Jul 11, 2018, 3:29 AM

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So you can't go to Vashj'ir on beta for some reason, you can go anywhere else but the portal is disabled

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Not really spoiler but it is odd

twilit heath Jul 11, 2018, 3:39 AM

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Oldie but a goldie

terse patrol Jul 11, 2018, 3:42 AM

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@rich apex is that recent?

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the pic

rich apex Jul 11, 2018, 3:42 AM

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It was from a video at a Blizzcon panel

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I think

terse patrol Jul 11, 2018, 3:43 AM

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hogger lives woke

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Which they basically confirmed in the Horde scenario where you free Talanji and Zul

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The Hogger suit.

rich apex Jul 11, 2018, 3:43 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6wVZ3k8Vc4&t=34s

YouTube

CodeZeeZ

Blizzard Story Room Blizzcon

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terse patrol Jul 11, 2018, 3:44 AM

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hogger to return for an island expedition

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gnoll island

restive sage Jul 11, 2018, 3:46 AM

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would be sikk

tulip sun Jul 11, 2018, 4:00 AM

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Oh

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It was real??

uncut vault Jul 11, 2018, 4:02 AM

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christie golden still has it up

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still tweets about it and crosses off names

tulip sun Jul 11, 2018, 4:03 AM

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Lol

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Who has she crossed off

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That art on her twitter banner

terse patrol Jul 11, 2018, 4:28 AM

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mfw the horde gets more customization woke @uncut vault

uncut vault Jul 11, 2018, 4:36 AM

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no base race customization planned

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except the horde ones

dense plover Jul 11, 2018, 4:38 AM

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which are being used for npcs

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so they decided to give them to players

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and for the orc thing, its also being used for maghar

tulip sun Jul 11, 2018, 5:03 AM

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Ya

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I meam, what alliance customizations are there to he added?

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Posture is maghar as mentioned

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And eyes are lore wise and npc customization

dense plover Jul 11, 2018, 5:07 AM

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and technically

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the blood elf face fixes carried over to void elves as well

uncut vault Jul 11, 2018, 5:07 AM

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guys I was memeing

dense plover Jul 11, 2018, 5:08 AM

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😛

uncut vault Jul 11, 2018, 5:08 AM

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I like both of the new things

supple wharf Jul 11, 2018, 5:26 AM

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World of Hordecraft

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must have forgot

grizzled sleet Jul 11, 2018, 5:27 AM

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World of Hordecraft vs Alliancecraft

supple wharf Jul 11, 2018, 5:29 AM

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hordecraft wins...not because of awsomeness or anything, just ebcause more of it

grizzled sleet Jul 11, 2018, 5:33 AM

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Orcs will be enslaved, taurens will kneel before our king, trolls will pray Elune for mercy and all other horde races will surrender

dense plover Jul 11, 2018, 5:36 AM

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i dont know what alliance you play, but it isnt the real one

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tauren are like, the most likely to ally

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anduin is literally friends with baine

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also

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no way would they ok slavery now

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im fairly certain the modern alliance dislikes that they had enslaved the orcs

grizzled sleet Jul 11, 2018, 5:38 AM

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😨

supple wharf Jul 11, 2018, 5:57 AM

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😉

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lovers

lilac spruce Jul 11, 2018, 7:37 AM

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Any windwalkers here? Are you able to use staves on current build? And does it affect FoF

dense plover Jul 11, 2018, 8:26 AM

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Windwalkers can only use one handed weapons

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The change to weapon types was not just for artifacts, it is permanent

tropic trail Jul 11, 2018, 8:57 AM

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Permanent for now, they could always change in the future.

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 11:16 AM

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Any news on prepatch?

strange falcon Jul 11, 2018, 11:20 AM

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most probably 17th for us

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 11:21 AM

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I know it is probably 17th for us

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But I want the official announcement already

verbal badger Jul 11, 2018, 11:43 AM

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that probability is rapidly decreasing with the 1 week announcement not being made

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 11:50 AM

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It's not ging to happen this expac

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but maybe next one

grizzled sleet Jul 11, 2018, 11:50 AM

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WHAT ? Prepatch is not going to happen this expac but maybe next one ? Noooooooooooooooooo

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 11:51 AM

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was talking about the class changes ;3;

grizzled sleet Jul 11, 2018, 11:51 AM

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murloc

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 12:14 PM

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Where is my burrito

karmic copper Jul 11, 2018, 12:17 PM

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Is pre patch out yet 💤 😴

terse patrol Jul 11, 2018, 12:20 PM

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Next week prolly @karmic copper

karmic copper Jul 11, 2018, 12:20 PM

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I hope its out as soon as possibly

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There's nothing to do right now

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 12:21 PM

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Snore

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We should ask Ythisens and tell him we are gonna cut those horns if we dont have info

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Or make some burgers

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Om

karmic copper Jul 11, 2018, 12:24 PM

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@thorny light we're gonna cut your horns off if you don't tell us 😡

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 12:25 PM

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Oof

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Or make burgers

karmic copper Jul 11, 2018, 12:26 PM

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No we cut his horns

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 12:26 PM

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/y Riot at WoWhead

karmic copper Jul 11, 2018, 12:26 PM

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No burgers

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Only cut off horns

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 12:27 PM

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But riot at wowhead?

karmic copper Jul 11, 2018, 12:27 PM

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You hear us Yrhisdbdbbdbds!

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What riot

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 12:27 PM

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For teasing us

karmic copper Jul 11, 2018, 12:28 PM

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Yes

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We take Ion captive at his work desk

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 12:29 PM

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And repeat the word Bias over and over

karmic copper Jul 11, 2018, 12:31 PM

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And then spray paint on Ion's face "Give me a legendary"

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Or "Give me a good legendary"

tropic trail Jul 11, 2018, 12:45 PM

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Argh! /tableflip

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Im still not sure if i should pick Monk or Paladin.

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As healer main. In one hand, i love Monks in Mist, but they were so bad in Draenor and Legion, but in BfA they seem to be better. But, then again...I been burned by it twice now.
On other hand, Paladin is like the first thing i played and loved it since day 1 i started it...
Course, its dps is not something i enjoy.

sharp bluff Jul 11, 2018, 12:48 PM

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split the difference, go druid

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best of everything 😆

tropic trail Jul 11, 2018, 12:48 PM

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No...

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Is either Monk or Paladin.

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 1:08 PM

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Paladin in beta is oof

tropic trail Jul 11, 2018, 1:13 PM

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@zealous basalt Okay, i gotta ask...what's with this oof thing? Like the 10th person that says this. This a new meme thing?

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 1:20 PM

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Ye

tropic trail Jul 11, 2018, 1:27 PM

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guys what should i boost a Dk or a rogue?

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 1:29 PM

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Mind you this is coming from the past 7 years of play and so I am incredibly bias,

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DK

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all the way

whole onyx Jul 11, 2018, 1:38 PM

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When you treat a beta server as a live server >.>

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 2:14 PM

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the freaking tease

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its like

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they are doing these things in purpose

grizzled sleet Jul 11, 2018, 2:16 PM

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What if prepatch was 24 🤔

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 2:20 PM

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I just want a date

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thats all

strange falcon Jul 11, 2018, 2:25 PM

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sad

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 2:26 PM

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What if they already said the date

terse patrol Jul 11, 2018, 2:27 PM

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heres a video to make you feel better

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https://youtu.be/O7D-1RG-VRk

YouTube

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zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 2:28 PM

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What if

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With "Soon" They said 2 weeks

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 2:41 PM

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they didn't say the date. They always give a precise date on when something ends

grizzled sleet Jul 11, 2018, 2:43 PM

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I think they still not sure if they should release it on 17 or 24 because prepatch content is not that huge and people aren't done yet with content being removed after legion

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PTR is already marked as release right?

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 2:43 PM

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Didn't Cata have less content?

grizzled sleet Jul 11, 2018, 2:43 PM

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Cata revamped the world

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leveling

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 2:44 PM

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Oh

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Ptr is marked as release

grizzled sleet Jul 11, 2018, 2:45 PM

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since a week now I think

tulip sun Jul 11, 2018, 2:45 PM

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Very likely 17th

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 2:46 PM

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what the fuck

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When did this

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This damn artifact

hallow hollow Jul 11, 2018, 2:46 PM

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I have a question about the artifact transmog for druids, can druids use the appearance of a artifact appearance form at any level, or is there a requirement of level 100?

grizzled sleet Jul 11, 2018, 2:47 PM

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@zealous basalt what artifact ?

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 2:48 PM

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All

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Yesterday in the afternoon was 138

grizzled sleet Jul 11, 2018, 2:48 PM

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and now it's what?

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😮

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 2:48 PM

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140

grizzled sleet Jul 11, 2018, 2:49 PM

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hummm

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 2:49 PM

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What is going to be the max level

hallow hollow Jul 11, 2018, 2:50 PM

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I think that depends on when the prepatch is

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I'm guessing 150 because it's a nice, round number (assuming the pre-patch is soon)

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 2:50 PM

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inb4 900

grizzled sleet Jul 11, 2018, 2:51 PM

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That number will not stay there

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http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/744417.jpg

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but concordance number will

hallow hollow Jul 11, 2018, 2:51 PM

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I'm assuming it overloads at whatever number Blizzard decide to cap it at

grizzled sleet Jul 11, 2018, 2:52 PM

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it's capped at 256 I think since 7.3.5 but I don't think it will go that far

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 2:52 PM

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Or probably at the begining of the prepatch (first login) it just start at max level before draining totally

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We still don't know how that gray screen happens because it is bullshit that after being too op it stays just "oof"

hallow hollow Jul 11, 2018, 2:53 PM

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Has it only been going up one level a day, or has it started going up 2 now?

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I'm sure it was 138 when I checked yesterday, but I could easily be misremembering

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 2:53 PM

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At first it was 1 level per 2 days

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Then it moved to 1 level per day

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probably it will become 2 levels per two days

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and if prepatch doesn't come next week

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3 levels per day

hallow hollow Jul 11, 2018, 2:54 PM

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Makes sense, if it goes at the current pace it'll hit 150 on Monday by my count

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 2:55 PM

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Unless

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They start getting more power with each daily reset

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To make the overflow more over

hallow hollow Jul 11, 2018, 2:56 PM

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Hmh, true

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 2:56 PM

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I am now dealing 1m with my normal abilities

hallow hollow Jul 11, 2018, 2:56 PM

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I'm just making a baseless accusation that it'll finish on 150, but that's only because that number looks a bit nicer to me than say, 168

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Although at the same time, if the prepatch was coming next week, I'd have expected news of it by now

grizzled sleet Jul 11, 2018, 2:57 PM

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but 150 will not stay in the artifact, that number will disapear

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Only concordance number will stay visible

hallow hollow Jul 11, 2018, 2:57 PM

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Mhm, what I mean is, it'll hit 150, and the day after will be the pre-patch and boom, either the power is drained after logging in, or as players we do something that drains it

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 2:58 PM

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we wouldn't drain it Fale.

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It's just auto-disabled in Pre-patch

hallow hollow Jul 11, 2018, 2:58 PM

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Ah, Is ee

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 2:58 PM

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Yeah

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That's my issue Vris

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The fact that it just gets autodisabled by no apparent reason

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 3:00 PM

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I think it'll just get disabled cuz reasons the story dictates

hallow hollow Jul 11, 2018, 3:00 PM

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It would be nice to get some sort of acknowledgement story-wise that the artifact weapon's power has been drained (Unless it does already, I've been careful to avoid plot details!)

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 3:00 PM

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but in terms of mechanics

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they need to get disabled in prepatch immediately

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since all the class changes apply there

hallow hollow Jul 11, 2018, 3:00 PM

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Yeah, it'd be too messy to have class changes alongside the artifact

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 3:00 PM

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and having 2 Apoc's as Unholy would be pretty broken

unkempt raptor Jul 11, 2018, 3:00 PM

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Sup y’all

hallow hollow Jul 11, 2018, 3:01 PM

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I'm mostly wondering if we can get an indication of when the pre-patch will hit by following the artifact weapon's current level, although that's likely futile as it could be any number

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 3:01 PM

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I don't think so. I jus tknow that blizz will announce its specific date before it come sout

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 3:01 PM

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Can it be just some visual effect?

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Like for exapmple

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First login on prepatch

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Artifact screens auto promts

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Quickly drain and then

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deactivated

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That would be at least something

grizzled sleet Jul 11, 2018, 3:02 PM

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@zealous basalt you're seeing it like the artifact became more powerful but that's all. But in reality it became instable, all this power is instability, so it makes sense that it can end at any time

unkempt raptor Jul 11, 2018, 3:03 PM

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Who remembers valrinn

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 3:03 PM

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That's what I meant with the drain, too much instability that it drains itself to lose all power

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All what I ask is a cool effect

unkempt raptor Jul 11, 2018, 3:04 PM

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😦

hallow hollow Jul 11, 2018, 3:04 PM

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It would be fairly amusing to login on prepatch, start casting a few spells...and the artifact weapon just blows up in our characters faces

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 3:05 PM

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wtb QoL update with Looking for Group raid creator that sets the raid to the choosen difficulty automatically

restive sage Jul 11, 2018, 3:50 PM

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hi every1

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 3:51 PM

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private server

restive sage Jul 11, 2018, 3:53 PM

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what

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 3:54 PM

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just saying it hoping to get banned. =3

restive sage Jul 11, 2018, 3:54 PM

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wut

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y u want ban

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 3:55 PM

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private server

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 3:55 PM

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provate server

restive sage Jul 11, 2018, 3:56 PM

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stop being off topic

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😦

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ur trying too trigger me and i know iiit

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 3:56 PM

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Nah

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just private server

restive sage Jul 11, 2018, 3:56 PM

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.<

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 3:56 PM

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bfa private server. bam. on topic.

restive sage Jul 11, 2018, 3:56 PM

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nope

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still not on topi

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c

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 3:56 PM

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For discussion of anything BFA related

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A bfa private server is bfa related.

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get rekt

restive sage Jul 11, 2018, 3:57 PM

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no it isnt

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 3:57 PM

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How is a server emulating BFA not related to BFA?

restive sage Jul 11, 2018, 3:57 PM

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because it isnt the real bfa

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 3:57 PM

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So? Beta isn't the real BFA. It's the prototype of it

ruby star Jul 11, 2018, 3:57 PM

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🤔

restive sage Jul 11, 2018, 3:57 PM

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u r not allowed to even mention the word private server or even suggest that the word exists 😠

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 3:57 PM

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private server

restive sage Jul 11, 2018, 3:58 PM

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am calling the police

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 3:58 PM

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do it

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you won't

strange falcon Jul 11, 2018, 3:58 PM

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PRIVATE SERVER

restive sage Jul 11, 2018, 3:58 PM

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i will

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 3:58 PM

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still waiting

restive sage Jul 11, 2018, 3:58 PM

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call in it on both of u

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 3:58 PM

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ban me daddy

ruby star Jul 11, 2018, 4:00 PM

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there's nothing in the rules of this discord saying you can't speak about private servers asmonWHAT

restive sage Jul 11, 2018, 4:00 PM

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its an unspoken rule

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no no, its a rule made by blizzard

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 4:00 PM

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It's a legitimate rule on their forums

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you are correct about this

restive sage Jul 11, 2018, 4:00 PM

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mhm

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 4:00 PM

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but here, not so much

ruby star Jul 11, 2018, 4:00 PM

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This isn't blizzards discord though

restive sage Jul 11, 2018, 4:01 PM

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it might be

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 4:01 PM

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As long as we aren't advertising it

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we're fine to speak about it

restive sage Jul 11, 2018, 4:01 PM

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no

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u just cant

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 4:01 PM

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Yes

restive sage Jul 11, 2018, 4:01 PM

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😦

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 4:01 PM

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That's the rules of this discord m8

restive sage Jul 11, 2018, 4:01 PM

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where is that rule

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-_-

ruby star Jul 11, 2018, 4:02 PM

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I don't see why your getting worked up about someone mentioning a private server, it doesn't effect you in any way (not that I play on one, I don;t)

restive sage Jul 11, 2018, 4:02 PM

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it might affect me

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in some way

ruby star Jul 11, 2018, 4:02 PM

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well it shouldn't

restive sage Jul 11, 2018, 4:02 PM

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🤔

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 4:03 PM

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he probably got cheated on by a private server

restive sage Jul 11, 2018, 4:03 PM

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cheated on?

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by a server?

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 4:04 PM

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the server cheats you out of mones, or maybe you get a virus from em.

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

restive sage Jul 11, 2018, 4:04 PM

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mones?

ruby star Jul 11, 2018, 4:04 PM

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money

restive sage Jul 11, 2018, 4:05 PM

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oooh

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 4:31 PM

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ya know. I gotta hand it to the team

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Doing the siege now, and it feels like a real invasion

tulip sun Jul 11, 2018, 4:32 PM

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Lordaeron? Reminds me i should try it out

restive sage Jul 11, 2018, 4:35 PM

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Nooo

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Am alliance

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 4:37 PM

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Because we didn't see the Alliance retailate like this

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befor

terse patrol Jul 11, 2018, 4:42 PM

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Kinda sad the Skyfire isnt there at Lordaeron tho

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 4:43 PM

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Skyfire was destroyed tho

terse patrol Jul 11, 2018, 4:43 PM

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Skybreaker*

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 4:44 PM

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Was pretty cool. Some questionable decisions made by Sylvanas tho.

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She has like. Gallons upon metric tons of blight just sitting in the back of Lordaeron

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why didn't she position more by sea for the inevitable siege?

terse patrol Jul 11, 2018, 4:45 PM

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I kinda think she planned to lose the Undercity

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 4:45 PM

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and just hard stop the alliance from landing

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 4:46 PM

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Meh

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Don't mention the Skyfire

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That was the OP ship

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 4:46 PM

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that went down to a bunch of bats

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O.o

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how is that OP?

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 4:46 PM

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That was the ship that followed Deathwing

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That was the ship that brought us to Pandaria

terse patrol Jul 11, 2018, 4:47 PM

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^

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 4:47 PM

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We had like 3 expacs on that thing

terse patrol Jul 11, 2018, 4:47 PM

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rip Skyfire

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 4:47 PM

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Its just...

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a personal level

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 4:47 PM

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So?

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The horde tosses their gunships into the fray

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 4:48 PM

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rolls eyes

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 4:48 PM

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the Alliance doesn't

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 4:48 PM

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You wouldn't understand

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 4:48 PM

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I don't understand it because you don't explain your point lOL

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 4:48 PM

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The Skyfire is more than just a ship

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 4:48 PM

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I'm pretty sure its just a ship

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a flying fortress of a ship, one that happens to be named and not in combat all that often by comparison of the horde gunships

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but still just a ship

terse patrol Jul 11, 2018, 4:49 PM

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I’d love to see an updated Alliance gunship. Like a new prototype.

plain vigil Jul 11, 2018, 4:49 PM

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I think Makore meant "OG" Not Op

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 4:49 PM

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When he said 'Don't mention it' then says its OP,

terse patrol Jul 11, 2018, 4:49 PM

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Skybreaker is the OG

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 4:49 PM

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I do think he means that it's OP and unfair in some way

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 4:50 PM

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oop

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i put op

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 4:50 PM

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also the warmode sounds for entering and exiting are great

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 4:50 PM

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i meant og

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 4:50 PM

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'furrr the alliance'

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cuzLFD

plain vigil Jul 11, 2018, 4:51 PM

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See i knew it

restive sage Jul 11, 2018, 4:55 PM

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what does op stand for

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😐

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original poster?

plain vigil Jul 11, 2018, 4:55 PM

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No redditor

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Over powered

restive sage Jul 11, 2018, 4:55 PM

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oh i didnt read the context

plain vigil Jul 11, 2018, 4:55 PM

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Og is Original

restive sage Jul 11, 2018, 4:55 PM

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i know what that op stands for

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og is original gangster isnt it?

plain vigil Jul 11, 2018, 4:56 PM

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Soooo This is speculation but I have a set guess for each of the raids this xpac :3

Uldir: Ghuun, MOTHER
1.5 Zuldazar Council: Old Troll raid bosses
Naz'jatar: Azshara
Dragon Isles: Murozond (Nozdormu)
Stormwind: Alleria&Sylvanas, N'zoth

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Yes🤙

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 4:56 PM

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G'huun is the final boss of Uldir

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We know this as fact for a while now

plain vigil Jul 11, 2018, 4:56 PM

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Ik

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I listed two bosses

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Didn't mean it in order or anything

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 4:56 PM

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Azshara is the Ghoulish Daniel of this epxac, so most likely.

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also where did Dragon Isle come from?...

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there's no hints towards it

grizzled sleet Jul 11, 2018, 4:57 PM

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map

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I think

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empty map

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 4:57 PM

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Dragon Isle map is ages old tho

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like. as old as vanilla

grizzled sleet Jul 11, 2018, 4:57 PM

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I think there was a datamined minimap

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but empty

plain vigil Jul 11, 2018, 4:57 PM

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Speculation on the RDF joining the alliance based on the bfa start screen, also the murozand thing is hard to explain, super complicated and you prob won't agree with that boss.

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 4:58 PM

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what start screen?

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RDF?

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what

plain vigil Jul 11, 2018, 4:58 PM

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The alliance has to clear that plauge somehow

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Login screen

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There' two ravens and what ma6 be two dragons flying over Lordaeron

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 4:58 PM

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The plague was cleared by red dragons fire because they can ya know. cleanse death.

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those are all vultures

plain vigil Jul 11, 2018, 4:59 PM

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No the tails are wrong for vultures

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 4:59 PM

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Those are all bias

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 4:59 PM

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I am looking at the screen now

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and animated

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those are carrion birds

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not dragons

plain vigil Jul 11, 2018, 4:59 PM

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Vris in lordaeron the alliance has to clear the plauge somehow 🤷‍♂️

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 4:59 PM

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specifically the vulture model for WoW.

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You do know that plague clears out over time on its own now right?

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 4:59 PM

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With black dragons

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Because Wrathion is gunna be alliance

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blakc dragonkin for 8.9 patch

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:00 PM

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Sylvanas has made several significant changes to the blight since Wrath of the Lich King

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One of which is that you can resurrect the dead in it, you can properly protect yourself against it with enough gear, etc etc etc

plain vigil Jul 11, 2018, 5:00 PM

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It's cleared within an "epic cinematic" according to blizz

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So 1-5 mins tops

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But again, I agree there's a possibility that it may not actually happen.

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:01 PM

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that still doesnt' say dragons. Especially since a dragon flying over and SETTING FIRE TO EVERYTHING isn't necessarily epic. And with no changes applied to Lordaeron's map to indicate it's on fire like the wrath gate still is

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I'm very doubtful that reds come in for no reason

plain vigil Jul 11, 2018, 5:01 PM

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Yea there is

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:01 PM

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to cleanse blight

plain vigil Jul 11, 2018, 5:01 PM

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There's fire all around the outside of lordaeron

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:02 PM

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to indicate that Lordaeron keep is on fire

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those fires are from the invasion

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not dragons

plain vigil Jul 11, 2018, 5:02 PM

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There's no fire seige engines used as far as we know.

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:02 PM

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There isn't

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btu if you actually

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hop into the PTR

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and play SoL

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you'll see

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the whole pathway

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has fire carving itself

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and there are splotches of fire

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all over the place

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cuz that's what's left behind when siege towers explode

plain vigil Jul 11, 2018, 5:03 PM

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I've played it both on beta and ptr, ik that fire is there. That's my point

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:03 PM

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your point is that it's made by dragons. Clearly they aren't

plain vigil Jul 11, 2018, 5:03 PM

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But again I think we should move on cause this conversation won't convince you, and I'm not trying to convince you.

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Thoughts on Seige of stormwind?

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:04 PM

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Dumb. They don't want to do another SoO

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why would they

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there's no reason for it. Sylvanas already can plow in if she wanted.

plain vigil Jul 11, 2018, 5:05 PM

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She can't though. How would she invade Stormwind? From the ocean? What about the Kul'Tiran fleet...

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:05 PM

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If alright

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and follow meon this

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IF

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she took her fleet from orgrimmar

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immediately following the siege

plain vigil Jul 11, 2018, 5:05 PM

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Yeaaaa

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:05 PM

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and hit sotrmwind

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what would stop her?

plain vigil Jul 11, 2018, 5:06 PM

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But we know that doesn't happen... I'm saying seige of Stormwind as the last raid.

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:06 PM

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Again, dumb. She's had plenty of chance to do it prior

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she doesn't

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why would she later on

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when her allies have licked their wounds and regrouped

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she's not garrosh. She knows when her enemies are weakest

plain vigil Jul 11, 2018, 5:06 PM

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It's her end game according to Before the storm

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:06 PM

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her end game is to wipe out life yes

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but

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She woulda done it

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much sooner

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if she was ever going to.

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Is my point

plain vigil Jul 11, 2018, 5:07 PM

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No her end game is Stormwind specifically

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:08 PM

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she singles out stormwind, but then speaks of wiping out humanity

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m8

plain vigil Jul 11, 2018, 5:08 PM

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She wants to kill everyone in stormwind and raise them as undead

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:08 PM

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Stormwind isn't the only thing that's alliance or human

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since she also speaks of wiping out the alliance

night swift Jul 11, 2018, 5:08 PM

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She wants nothing but the forsaken to rule

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:08 PM

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^

plain vigil Jul 11, 2018, 5:08 PM

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Right but Stormwind is the highest populated city in wow. Lot of future forsaken

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:08 PM

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Wiping out life is her end game. She's become Lich King v1.5

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We actually don't know if that's true Gand

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I'd argue that non-war ravaged areas of the world, like Borealus, are more populated

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since it's not war ravaged

forest tartan Jul 11, 2018, 5:09 PM

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who says she wants to wipe out life thats not true

plain vigil Jul 11, 2018, 5:09 PM

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True but lore wise boralus is smaller than stormwind

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:09 PM

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She literally wants to wipe out the alliance m8. She wants nothing but Forsaken to prosper

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and the only way for that to happen

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is everyone to die

plain vigil Jul 11, 2018, 5:10 PM

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Including Stormwind

night swift Jul 11, 2018, 5:10 PM

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She wants forsaken to thrive and retain immortality

plain vigil Jul 11, 2018, 5:10 PM

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Ironforge is almost impenetrable. So Stormwind has to be her next target.

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:10 PM

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She's very much Lich King version 1.5

plain vigil Jul 11, 2018, 5:10 PM

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You mean 4.0?

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:10 PM

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what were the other three?

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er

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two

night swift Jul 11, 2018, 5:11 PM

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Cause when she dies in Wrath she saw Hell, and then when she was resurrected she vowed to keep her people from seeing what she saw

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:11 PM

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since arthas was version 1

plain vigil Jul 11, 2018, 5:11 PM

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The orc guy, then arthas, then bolvar.

forest tartan Jul 11, 2018, 5:11 PM

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pink skins are a threat to everything north of tarren mill

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:11 PM

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Ner'zhul was more beta lich king

plain vigil Jul 11, 2018, 5:11 PM

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🤷‍♂️

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 5:11 PM

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tf

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:11 PM

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that's an outright lie

plain vigil Jul 11, 2018, 5:11 PM

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Tgeb at least 3.0

night swift Jul 11, 2018, 5:11 PM

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Bolvar might be plotting something himself

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:11 PM

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The living aren't a threat to the Silver Hand

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heckin

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Sylvanas is more of a threat to them

plain vigil Jul 11, 2018, 5:12 PM

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Gtg break ended was fun

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:12 PM

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and proves it by attacking them

night swift Jul 11, 2018, 5:12 PM

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We did resurrect the 4 Horseman for him

forest tartan Jul 11, 2018, 5:12 PM

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silver hand kills werewolves who gives a shit

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:12 PM

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No they don't?...

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They kill the scourge in the plaguelands

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healing the lands

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ya know

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paladin shit

forest tartan Jul 11, 2018, 5:13 PM

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lol no

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:13 PM

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lol yes

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 5:13 PM

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Where the fuck do they kill werewolves?

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I made that questline like

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For lots

night swift Jul 11, 2018, 5:14 PM

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🤔

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:14 PM

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Do you honestly not know the story of the Order of the Silver Hand? how it absorbed the Argent Dawn and Crusade into it? Which also means all it's ownerships as well. Hearthglen, Light's Hope, all the outposts in the Western Plaguelands

night swift Jul 11, 2018, 5:14 PM

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Silver Hand want to cleanse the plaguelands from the scourge

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:14 PM

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all of that is Silver Hand territory now. The Silver Hand was neutral and wanted to return to its job. Ya know. Cleaning out the scourge. fuckin sylvanas comes in and attacks them thinking they'll join the alliance and attack the horde

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which ultimately makes them do exactly what she was trying to prevent

forest tartan Jul 11, 2018, 5:15 PM

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a bunch of new npc they put in after wotlk

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alliance flavor text

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lol

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:16 PM

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That's really false.

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None of the Argent Crusade was actually new in WotLK

night swift Jul 11, 2018, 5:16 PM

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🤔🤔

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:16 PM

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it was in BC and Vanilla

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as the argent dawn

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it was in books and comics prior, as the Argent Dawn, then Lich king tries to take Light's Hope and Tirion comes back from his exile after saving Etrigg from execution

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cleanses ashbringer and says

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 5:17 PM

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no u

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:17 PM

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'Ey fuckbois. Time to go on a crusade of holy powers'

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 5:17 PM

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kek

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:17 PM

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'Deus Vult'

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and then they do that

forest tartan Jul 11, 2018, 5:17 PM

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more alliance propaganda

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:17 PM

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and then in cata they go home and start cleansing the Plaguelands

night swift Jul 11, 2018, 5:17 PM

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My guy

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:17 PM

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At this point in time, they've all but cleared the Eastern and have made strides in the West

night swift Jul 11, 2018, 5:17 PM

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There are fucking Orc guards with Human guards at Light’s Hope and Tyr’s Hand

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:18 PM

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minus like. Stratholme and Scholomance

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 5:18 PM

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I mean

forest tartan Jul 11, 2018, 5:18 PM

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paladins are a scourge. down with the light

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 5:18 PM

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The Silver hand and the argent dawn were parts of the alliance

night swift Jul 11, 2018, 5:18 PM

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Ah I see now

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:18 PM

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The dawn wasn't

night swift Jul 11, 2018, 5:18 PM

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He’s trolling

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:18 PM

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the Silver Hand's first iteration was in the alliance yes

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 5:19 PM

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The Argent Dawn was a little neutral

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:19 PM

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The Crusade made the Silver Hand leave the alliance and join into it's holy crusade

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It was very neutral Mak

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 5:19 PM

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Mostly because they didn't know about the rest of the horde races, but they welcomed them

forest tartan Jul 11, 2018, 5:19 PM

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holy crusade what a joke

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:19 PM

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That's very false Mak

night swift Jul 11, 2018, 5:19 PM

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The Silver Hand is neutral in Legion though

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:19 PM

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The Argent Dawn knew of the horde.

forest tartan Jul 11, 2018, 5:19 PM

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if the allaince wasnt so stupid they would have to clean up thier mess is the first place

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:19 PM

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the Dawn was the remnants of the Lordaeron Silver Hand sect

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 5:19 PM

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I mean

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All the mess they clean

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Is because of the Horde

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:20 PM

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Not really?...The plaguelands was the Legion and Arthas

night swift Jul 11, 2018, 5:20 PM

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Yeah the plaguelands is mostly from Arthas

forest tartan Jul 11, 2018, 5:20 PM

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you mean becasue they enslaved the orcs and pissed thrall off

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:20 PM

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the Dawn nor the alliance ever actively enslaved orcs

night swift Jul 11, 2018, 5:20 PM

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Stratholm plague leaked out into the plaguelands

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:21 PM

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they placed them in camps to keep them alive rather than put them into extinction

forest tartan Jul 11, 2018, 5:21 PM

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so drani are no invaders but orcs are

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:21 PM

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despite many members of the alliance wanting them to just be slaughtered

forest tartan Jul 11, 2018, 5:21 PM

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lol

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:21 PM

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Draenei didn't come in slaughtering everything in their path

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Orcs did

forest tartan Jul 11, 2018, 5:21 PM

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ur reasoning is so blind

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 5:21 PM

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And you don't know anything

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"Oh poor orcs"

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"They are innocent"

night swift Jul 11, 2018, 5:21 PM

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Draenei tried to make peace on draenor but the orcs drove them off didn’t they?

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:22 PM

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more than that Hock

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Way more than that

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 5:22 PM

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Say that to the first kingdom of the Humans

forest tartan Jul 11, 2018, 5:22 PM

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good the drani are invaders on outland also

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 5:22 PM

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And the countless people they slayed

forest tartan Jul 11, 2018, 5:22 PM

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they came from argus

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:22 PM

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The Draenei came onto Draenor and left the orcs alone

terse patrol Jul 11, 2018, 5:22 PM

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tbh tho who needs the Skyfire when we have the Vindica- oh wait

forest tartan Jul 11, 2018, 5:22 PM

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go back home and fix ur own shiit

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:22 PM

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they never did more than trade with the orcs

night swift Jul 11, 2018, 5:22 PM

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Uhh they did?

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We kinda invaded Argus with the draenei

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:22 PM

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sure some spouts occurred over hunting, but otherwise the Draenei had relative peace with the Orcs.

plain vigil Jul 11, 2018, 5:22 PM

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Then the orcs slaughtered the draenai

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 5:23 PM

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The MU draenei were passive

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Then the orcs--ye

terse patrol Jul 11, 2018, 5:23 PM

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tbh I’d like to see a scenario where Sylvanas attempts to invade Azuremyst, and you just see Velen on the shore like: “ woke ”

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:23 PM

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Until Ner'zhul was tricked into waging a horde war with them

forest tartan Jul 11, 2018, 5:23 PM

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thew legion wouldnt have even used the orc or noticed them if the drani werent trying to hide on thier planet

terse patrol Jul 11, 2018, 5:23 PM

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Then the Vindicaar appears

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And nukes the Horde fleet

plain vigil Jul 11, 2018, 5:23 PM

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The hellire roads are literally made out of draenai bones

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:23 PM

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Then the Draenei fled into Osu'gun and took their ship and flew off to Netherstorm

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met up with the rest of the naaru fleet

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then the blood elves came in

plain vigil Jul 11, 2018, 5:23 PM

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Yup

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:24 PM

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stole most of those ships

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sabotaged the Exodar

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made it crash land onto Azeroth

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 5:24 PM

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I thought they re-stole the Exodar

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:24 PM

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of which when Thrall heard news of this

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he was paralyzed in fear

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cuz holy fucking retribution was comin for what his people did to the draenei

plain vigil Jul 11, 2018, 5:25 PM

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Why were tge belves separate d pre bc?

terse patrol Jul 11, 2018, 5:25 PM

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turns out tho that the MU Draenei are largely pacifists

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:25 PM

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From the horde? yes

terse patrol Jul 11, 2018, 5:25 PM

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Unless they’re the Draenei directly under Maraad. RIP Maraad.

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 5:25 PM

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God fucking damn it

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:25 PM

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Or in the Kunaei

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 5:25 PM

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cries

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:25 PM

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those draenei were pretty fuckin sour about being genocided like that

terse patrol Jul 11, 2018, 5:25 PM

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Maraad aka beastblood aka Draenei from the BC cinematic.

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:26 PM

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Man-handling naga like they're gnomes

terse patrol Jul 11, 2018, 5:26 PM

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boi turns libram pages without touchin them

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:26 PM

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Don't forget his man-handling of naga

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 5:26 PM

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And his big mace

terse patrol Jul 11, 2018, 5:26 PM

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beautifuo

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l

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 5:26 PM

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Damn it Maraad

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Why u left

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pls come back

terse patrol Jul 11, 2018, 5:26 PM

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Sucks that he died in WoD. He should have died fighting on Argus.

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 5:26 PM

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Oh lord

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:26 PM

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I would be less sour

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if they just double downed

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 5:27 PM

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He would have been so epic in Argus

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:27 PM

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on the Yrel storyline they originally had

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and made Yrel his MU wife that died with child

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that we saw in the Lords of War

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to just justify how furious he is at the color green

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 5:27 PM

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Y u do dis blizzard

terse patrol Jul 11, 2018, 5:27 PM

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If they dont bring back Yrel to Azeroth, I’ll be annoyed.

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:28 PM

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they dont

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the horde goes in

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 5:28 PM

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Lightforged orcs

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kek

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:28 PM

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picks up the mag'har

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and leaves

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and closes the door behind them

terse patrol Jul 11, 2018, 5:28 PM

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Because it means the Horde benefited from Warlords while the Alliance just lost heroes there.

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MU heroes.

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Cordana and Maraad rip

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:28 PM

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https://youtu.be/IBHL_-biMrQ?t=1m3s our boy marad

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plain vigil Jul 11, 2018, 5:29 PM

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Always wondered who he is

terse patrol Jul 11, 2018, 5:29 PM

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The Horde lost. . . what, only alternate universe characters?

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 5:29 PM

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Ye

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Clearly not bias

terse patrol Jul 11, 2018, 5:30 PM

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Also, we lost Khadgar, because they made him a neutral boy

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 5:30 PM

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Which is bs because he is a hero of the alliance

terse patrol Jul 11, 2018, 5:30 PM

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^

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:30 PM

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to be fair, ever since he was sectioned off, he's become less for the alliance

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and more for azeroth

terse patrol Jul 11, 2018, 5:30 PM

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So we lost 3 characters in WoD.

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Horde lost none.

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:31 PM

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Nothordebiasedbtw

terse patrol Jul 11, 2018, 5:31 PM

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And we don’t get any benefits from the expansion.

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The Horde get Maghar.

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I at least wanted to have the Draenei show up to join the Alliance again, and have Yrel as a hero.

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 5:32 PM

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with those melon crushing thighs

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 5:32 PM

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Or talk with Velen about how things have happened

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And have him talk with the lightbound to slap in the face

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Imo Velen knows a lot about light and void

terse patrol Jul 11, 2018, 5:35 PM

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Having her meet MU Velen would be cool

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 5:35 PM

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Yeah

terse patrol Jul 11, 2018, 5:35 PM

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But nah, they close the time portal because the Alliance isnt allowed to have anything from Warlords.

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 5:36 PM

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not clearly a bias

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But that means Alliance is powerful at his own, even with all the losses and such

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 6:08 PM

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Yes

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The give a preview of the comminuty thing

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BUT WHERE IS THE GOD DAMN DATE

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 6:09 PM

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The release date is with Med'an

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 6:10 PM

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Ugh

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They put "Soon"

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that fucking soon

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 6:10 PM

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Soon™

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 6:11 PM

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I swear im going to fucking kick the dude that thought that saying soon was a good idea

uncut vault Jul 11, 2018, 6:11 PM

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I can’t think of what else they need to put blogposts out about for the prepatch so the actual announcement should be next

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 6:19 PM

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For their own good

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Me atm

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📎 SmartSelect_20180711-132942_YouTube.gif

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"Where is my prepatch"

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 6:35 PM

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What I really love about Siege of Lordaeron is that

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there's almost no sentiment against the horde

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but against Sylvanas

neat idol Jul 11, 2018, 6:44 PM

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does anyone knows when the raider.io addon will update to last season?
or where can i check that

uncut vault Jul 11, 2018, 6:52 PM

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So, the horde

mint osprey Jul 11, 2018, 6:54 PM

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hello guys iam pretty new to this game 😃 and iam torn between hunter and DK 😦

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 6:54 PM

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Dk

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but my advice is from a biased side

mint osprey Jul 11, 2018, 6:54 PM

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😄

uncut vault Jul 11, 2018, 6:54 PM

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Hunter is easier to get into, but DK has a lot more flavor

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 6:55 PM

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just DK.

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Hands down

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wanna tank? Blood. You'll never die if you're aware.

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Wanna have 'spam the flashy buttons'?

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frost.

sharp bluff Jul 11, 2018, 6:55 PM

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Hunter is solely DPS, DK has Tank, tank allows you shorter queues for dungeons

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 6:55 PM

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Wanna have micro?

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Unholy

sharp bluff Jul 11, 2018, 6:55 PM

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Best advice I can give

mint osprey Jul 11, 2018, 6:55 PM

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i will play with friends they have monk(healer) rogue, and druid(tank)

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 6:55 PM

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roll unholy or frost then

uncut vault Jul 11, 2018, 6:56 PM

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I’d say hunter in that case, for Beast Mastery. Simple spec, great starting point.

mint osprey Jul 11, 2018, 6:58 PM

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@uncut vault bm just because it is easier to play?

uncut vault Jul 11, 2018, 6:59 PM

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It’s the best spec to start with in the game, and marksmanship and survival hunter are both getting very good reworks next week

mint osprey Jul 11, 2018, 7:01 PM

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and if you wouldnt consider, complexity of that character i mean if you wouldnt consider iam new

uncut vault Jul 11, 2018, 7:03 PM

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BM can still be fun when you’re an experienced player, I’d also lean towards hunter to give your friend group a balance with a ranged DPS

terse plank Jul 11, 2018, 7:19 PM

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I'm hoping Blizzard handles the functionality of kicking / banning people from Communities better. Currently, if you get kicked, you just instantly can rejoin back in the Community, which means people can continuously troll groups without any real consequence.

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On top of that, addons can't touch any of the Kicking functions in the Community API as they're protected, so even if Blizzard didn't change how kicking handles players, they will also not be able to kick players out automatically via addons or code as a sort of pseudo-ban.

heavy cairn Jul 11, 2018, 7:42 PM

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yea a tempban functionality seems like a smart idea

restive sage Jul 11, 2018, 7:46 PM

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vris = biased

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 7:47 PM

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I am 100% biased against hte other classes

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and anything that wears the color red and is an unkempt, barbarous, brute.

restive sage Jul 11, 2018, 7:49 PM

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so biased

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 8:10 PM

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Rest in peace my chosen one run

modest berry Jul 11, 2018, 8:24 PM

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@terse plank I can't ignore people if they're on a different server on live. Blizzard don't give a fuck.

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Communities will probably crash and burn. But at least we get a better guild interface.

tropic trail Jul 11, 2018, 8:44 PM

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Anyone in blue is a grouping pansy that cant fight alone :')

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 8:58 PM

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From my experience it's anyone in red is a grouping pansy that can't fight alone

terse plank Jul 11, 2018, 8:59 PM

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So Stromgarde humans? happy

sharp bluff Jul 11, 2018, 8:59 PM

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But Vris you do like dead things

mint arch Jul 11, 2018, 9:00 PM

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vris likes anime

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GWovoYayy

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 9:00 PM

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Lies and slander

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also yes I do like dead things

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dead things that stay dead

sharp bluff Jul 11, 2018, 9:00 PM

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So not death knights

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 9:01 PM

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WHERE IS MY PREPATCH

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/406285497846071306/466673501940613141/SmartSelect_20180711-132942_YouTube.gif

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 9:01 PM

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in the same area that blizzard stuffed Med'an into

sharp bluff Jul 11, 2018, 9:01 PM

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Next week probably geez

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Calm yourself, your acting like a worgen

grizzled sleet Jul 11, 2018, 9:11 PM

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I don't understand

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Artifact level is the same actually between EU and US

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But prepatch will release on US 1 day before EU, this will give EU more artifact power

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unless they release it same day just like BFA ?

restive sage Jul 11, 2018, 9:12 PM

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does it matter

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lol

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who cares if they get a little tiny bit more artifact power when everything you need it for is gonna be closed

grizzled sleet Jul 11, 2018, 9:13 PM

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It's a small thing but it's important

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 9:13 PM

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small

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and

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important

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don't belong in the same sentence

grizzled sleet Jul 11, 2018, 9:13 PM

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the number of concordance in your artifact will remain there forever, for some people it's unfair

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 9:14 PM

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How do you know that between the what

#

16 hour period

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a concordance level will raise?

grizzled sleet Jul 11, 2018, 9:14 PM

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Didn't you see ?

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 9:14 PM

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Do you know exactly how fast the concordance ranks go?

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How many hours inbetween each?

grizzled sleet Jul 11, 2018, 9:14 PM

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It increase by around 3 levels per day now

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 9:14 PM

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Are you 100% sure it will be uneven?

grizzled sleet Jul 11, 2018, 9:14 PM

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It increase more than before since last reset

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3 levels per day

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or more

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 9:15 PM

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no u

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i mean

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imagine 10 levels per day

restive sage Jul 11, 2018, 9:15 PM

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small but important do fit

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there are some small things that are important

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 9:15 PM

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This really isn't important

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like.

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at all

#

this is a very and I mean very minor thing.

restive sage Jul 11, 2018, 9:16 PM

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but

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im not saying its important

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im saying small and important can fit in same sentence

sour burrow Jul 11, 2018, 9:31 PM

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https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20765736736

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terse plank Jul 11, 2018, 9:32 PM

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Isn't concordance shut off in prepatch?

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 9:32 PM

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it is

uncut vault Jul 11, 2018, 9:32 PM

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watching people who dont actually play a spec say a spec is in a perfect place kinda infuriates me

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 9:32 PM

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but Mim is saying it's an important thing that Eu might get an extra concordance number or two because of pre-patch

terse plank Jul 11, 2018, 9:32 PM

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Demonology is in a perfect place. Btw I main assassination rogue 😎

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 9:33 PM

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even though its pretty possible that they place pre-patch on the same day

terse plank Jul 11, 2018, 9:34 PM

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🤷 I doubt it'll matter. Like "oh no a region gets to be ever so slightly more powerful for a single day"

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What are they gonna do, get a head start on Mythic Argus progression?

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 9:34 PM

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I mean

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the bounty for M+30

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isn't even available anymore

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so there's literally no significance in it

terse plank Jul 11, 2018, 9:35 PM

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Time for M+40

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 11:08 PM

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@zealous basalt http://www.wowhead.com/news=285528&webhook/updated-creature-models-in-the-battle-for-azeroth-pre-expansion-patch MORE PREPATCH STUFF

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zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 11:08 PM

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sdfasdfasdfasdf

pallid crescent Jul 11, 2018, 11:09 PM

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puntable marmot getting a HD model with lots of kickable poligons?

restive sage Jul 11, 2018, 11:17 PM

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Why is this in latest news

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I saw that months ago lol

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 11:18 PM

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BECAUSE THEY WANT TO TEASE ME MORE

ruby star Jul 11, 2018, 11:18 PM

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@hollow dock nice

restive sage Jul 11, 2018, 11:18 PM

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;)

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 11:22 PM

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we saw it was in BFA, not in prepatch

uncut vault Jul 11, 2018, 11:23 PM

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dh3EqpWUcAAuzfi.jpg:large

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 11:23 PM

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so wowhead gets to pad out the announcements

terse patrol Jul 11, 2018, 11:26 PM

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we’ll have to deal with padding all the way until the 17th ffs

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 11:32 PM

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OML

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Port

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10/10

uncut vault Jul 11, 2018, 11:39 PM

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just 6 more days, possibly 13

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 11:40 PM

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For the announcement right?

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 11:40 PM

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yes for 1 week of pre-patch

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=3

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 11:46 PM

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ASPDOASDPFAK

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grabs keyboard

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fills it with weebs

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slams on Vris

hollow dock Jul 11, 2018, 11:50 PM

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Weebs are illegal.

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you are unable to perform this action

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 11:55 PM

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okay

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puts snitties on them

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slams again

sudden oak Jul 11, 2018, 11:56 PM

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We must keep the weebs at bay GWowoSmug

zealous basalt Jul 11, 2018, 11:59 PM

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ONE PREPATCH DATE ANNOUCEMENT KEEPS WEEBS AT BAY

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 12:01 AM

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that's false and you know it

terse patrol Jul 12, 2018, 12:03 AM

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owoDance

tropic trail Jul 12, 2018, 12:24 AM

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GWgoaMonikaSmug

molten gyro Jul 12, 2018, 1:17 AM

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when bfa launches do you still have to grind rep for the allied races?

tulip sun Jul 12, 2018, 1:20 AM

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Ya

hollow dock Jul 12, 2018, 1:24 AM

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so far

#

but I will note

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PTR has them unlocked

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with no rep grinds required

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 1:25 AM

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yup

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this is true

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it would make more sense if you just had to do the questlines imo

tulip sun Jul 12, 2018, 1:26 AM

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The point is to expwriwnce their story and such then recruit them.

#

But i can see them eventually removing the rep requirements

#

But i imagine the story may stay

dense plover Jul 12, 2018, 1:31 AM

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its likely they will drop the rep requirements

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maybe not with prepatch but possibly with bfa launch or with the raid release

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those are usually when they do stuff

restive sage Jul 12, 2018, 1:31 AM

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atleast make it so you only need honored or revered

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one of the 2

rich apex Jul 12, 2018, 1:32 AM

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Beta has the DI/Mag'har unlocked despite their scenario not being implemented at all yet, so 😛