i want a WoD style azuremyst
#beta-ptr-spoilers
terse patrol
tropic trail
so horde go from quel thalas and alliance from stormwind i guess
uncut vault
new karabor, this time with an actual interior
terse patrol
wantttt
uncut vault
honestly though, just build up a new temple on the mountain the exodar crashed into, would be pretty nice
even if they dont make it relevant
tropic trail
tulip sun
But why would the Horde want the Exodar?
terse patrol
That an ancient map
tulip sun
That is the question
terse patrol
thats
ruby star
@uncut vault what are the chances of a Quel'Thalas patch?
tulip sun
There is no race in the Horde like the Void Elves or High Elves to want to reclaim it
ruby star
I like Khamins ideas of HE & VE vs BE and NB
uncut vault
full on patch? Id say not that likely, due to the fact that we've only got so many patches before we have to deal with Nzoth
but as a warfront in an 8.2? Id say likely
tulip sun
Warfront?
tropic trail
patch 8.2 could be dragon isles like broken shore
tulip sun
Ya, NB & BE vs HE & VE would be sweet.
tropic trail
8.3 ny alotha
uncut vault
lets them revamp the zone in an isolated way, and not have to tell an entire zone-wide story alongside the main conflict
tulip sun
Will each warfront have new commanders?
ruby star
if it's a warfront it would also give the chance for high elves too whuch will finally put it to rest and make a lot of people very happy 😄
and it would be very epic
uncut vault
100% each warfront will have separate ones
tulip sun
High Elves are in Stromgarde
ruby star
HE & VE vs BE & NB
uncut vault
like, buildings, troops, I cant guarantee
tulip sun
At least, there is a commander
uncut vault
but the commanders will change
tulip sun
My question...
ruby star
and I saw @tulip sun 😄
tulip sun
If they planned one for Quel'thalas
ruby star
the portal trainer/quest giver doeesn't change
tulip sun
Why have Liadrin be a commander for Stromgarde?
uncut vault
same reason rokhan is an arathi commander, despite fitting great for barrens
tulip sun
Who is that female nightborne guard lady, promoted post-legion
uncut vault
banter with trollbane
tropic trail
baine could be the commander for barrens
tulip sun
I can imagine Halduron, Rommath and that Nightborne Lady, or Silgryn, as Quel'thalas commanders.
They won't have racial leaders tbh
Secondaries I imagine
Aponi or Tahu, Dezco for Barrens
Uhhhh, an Ogre?
Idk
uncut vault
Vereesa would make for a great warfront commander, all Im saying
ruby star
Yep
ruby star
Vereesa,Alleria,Umbric,Auric?
uncut vault
They are using racial leaders for campaign stuff
tulip sun
Ya
uncut vault
umbric and eitrigg are both followers
ruby star
no news that Silver covenant/vereesa is helping in the faction war, though it would make sense if she/they did
they might be saving them for a patch or warfront
uncut vault
so far the helfs we've seen have either been from auric's group, and 7th legion
tulip sun
Auric is in the island expeditions?
uncut vault
auric's angels
ruby star
they are named after him
hollow dock
Honestly it doesn't make sense that the Silver Covenant are...ya know.
Not fighting in this war
hollow dock
yes they had
uncut vault
another thing, theyve been crazily specific about making all the engineers and ranged soldiers only dwarves in the arathi warfront
tulip sun
They may just not be appearing yet
hollow dock
they were the faction fighting the Sunreavers in Isle of Thunder
uncut vault
so my hope is in barrens or whatever the next one is, we get a gnome commander
ruby star
I mean they could be saving high elves for Quel'Thalas patch or warfront, but it's hard to tell sort of
tulip sun
I guess.
uncut vault
Mekkatorque works just fine, he's an on-the-field leader nowadays
ruby star
they keep using high elves in BFA though
uncut vault
not like blizz sees him as a major leader anyways
hollow dock
They had said that 'in the near future' they won't be touching Quel'thalas or Azuremyst Drorith
hollow dock
that means they have no plans for it in this expansion
hollow dock
Yes at blizzcon
uncut vault
wasnt that in reference to bringing it into the open world and integrating it
tulip sun
At least we know it will happen sometime
uncut vault
I dont expect them to ever put QT in the open world
hollow dock
that was in reference to 'What about Azuremyst and Quel'thalas'
in terms of the war
they're just being left as bastions for the near future.
tulip sun
Plans change too, who can truly tell.
ruby star
They said that, though they might have something up their sleeve, they said last bastions, but I suspect they will save them for an epic patch maybe
uncut vault
If blizzcon statements showed anything, t hey changed pretty quick lol
ruby star
^
tulip sun
I would not mind a NB/BE vs VE/HE Warfront somewhere though
uncut vault
remember "we dont have plans for any normal race customization atm"
tulip sun
Doesn't have to be directly Quel'thalas
ruby star
Muffunius did say stuff changes drastcily from blizzcon to launch etc
terse patrol
Poor Mekkatorque
hollow dock
They did say at the moment. Not in the near future.
Their language changes depending on what the topic is
tulip sun
Hm..
What would the Zandalari vicious war mount be?
Am I being a bit too hopeful for a Bronto? xD
hollow dock
isn't it a trike?
tropic trail
A DEMOSAUR
tulip sun
Trike is racial I think
tropic trail
DEVILSAUR
hollow dock
It is
uncut vault
they use the same vague speech for "we dont want to reveal info" as they do for "we dont really wanna do this"
hollow dock
but it's also the vicious saddle
tulip sun
I don't think a zandalari vicious was datamined
uncut vault
Was there? I thought the vicious saddles datamined were hippo and clefthoof
tropic trail
only datamined the mag har and the dark iron ones
uncut vault
we got their models and everything
tropic trail
the hound
terse patrol
I would love if Gnomes got a spider tank mount finally. @uncut vault
Maybe via Junker Gnomes
tulip sun
The gnome NPC person in the STromgarde warfront rides a spider tank
It is pretty cool xD
urban dew
I don't think Junker gnomes are anything more than normal gnomes
uncut vault
nah man I want a full on bipedal mech
tropic trail
The zandalari vicious saddle will be a devilsaur and the kul tiran one a Wicker beast or a horse
uncut vault
just so I can go around screaming USURPER! GNOMEREGAN IS MINE!
tulip sun
I don't like Devilsaurs tbh
urban dew
I mean, we've already seen junker gnomes
terse patrol
Half robot gnomes.
urban dew
They're just normal gnomes
urban dew
Through island expeditions
tulip sun
Adding mechanical limbs to normal gnomes would be sweet.
terse patrol
I want robot limbs and punk rock hairstyles
uncut vault
the gnome team on the island has nothing to do with the abandoned junkheap
thats just a team of gnomes from gnomeregan
terse patrol
If they can make gnome girls even cuter that’d be cool too
tulip sun
I tihnk he meant the island
terse patrol
tulip sun
-really wants more racial, faction themed mounts for RP-
Can we also add armor to hunter pets? That would be cool xD
uncut vault
the mechagnome island map is also both outdated in assets, and not used
urban dew
I'd just be happy with Sethrak
uncut vault
uses the assets from when they were going for a distinctly kul tiran engineering theme
new stuff is very scrap heap
terse patrol
@uncut vault I think they plan to redo that island with the new Junker Gnome assets
tulip sun
Where is this?
uncut vault
first build had a line about taurajo
uncut vault
which makes sense, and follows the theme of arathi
one faction rebuilds a ruined spot, one builds a new base
tulip sun
You know? Quite random, but
terse patrol
I wonder how they’ll change Bael Modan, since apparently its not destroyed.
tulip sun
I was doing Stonetalons i think it was.
And felt so bad for Cliffwalker Tribe
Oh my god 😦
tropic trail
Taurajo could be part of the barrens warfront
tulip sun
I want to learn more about Mulgore Tauren Tribes
hollow dock
Taurajo and theramore are the barrens warfronts
tulip sun
They seem a bit far apart, no?
hollow dock
since the updated maps depict both. and they're in a straight shot of each other since the closer base was destroyed by the horde and never rebuilt
uncut vault
"There's no time for chit chat soldier, this here is Forward Command. We are right in the thick of it, with Camp Taurajo over there sending wave after wave of those blasted Tauren at us."
definitely a warfront line
terse patrol
filthy tauren...
tulip sun
I would shit my pants if I saw a wave of tauren coming after me.
mint arch
tauren are good cows 
terse patrol
Anduin revoles his friend status.
uncut vault
unless they completely say screw lore, I doubt we'll rebuild on theramore
but who knows
mint arch
lore 
tulip sun
I want to see a Highmountain and a Tauren commander for Barrens
mint arch
blizzard only do "cool/shock things/moments"
terse patrol
Revokes*
tulip sun
Maybe uhhhhh
uncut vault
cause theramore basically has the arcane equivalent of blight for a long ass time
tropic trail
other thing that can appear Is Tel abim and Zuldare
hollow dock
tbf, Sylvanas has been acting slightly more...erm. Paranoid than usual. thinking Anduin will attack first and all.
uncut vault
skyhorn dude?
terse patrol
I think we’re going to see Dark Irons, Night Elves, and Gnomes in the Barrens warfront
terse patrol
Due to Bael Modan
hollow dock
and to be fair Port, Jaina was walking around Theramore pretty safely.
ruby star
what did I miss? sorry my cat came in for attention
tulip sun
Or honestly, perhaps Mayla? If we are are dreaming
hollow dock
it didn't look all that destroyed.
mint arch
woah woah woah vris!
tulip sun
Aponi for sure would be in the Barrens
mint arch
are u insinuating sylvanas might be bad?
tulip sun
I think at least
mint arch
or we'll be talking about her all expansion
tulip sun
I am trying to think who will be commanders for Barrens
Can't think of any good Alliance.
tropic trail
Baine Horde Shaw Alliance
uncut vault
my bets on commanders for commanders at the barrens are a night elf, gnome, and worgen for alliance, tauren, undead, and goblin for horde
terse patrol
Mekkatorque, Moira, Tyrande, and Malfurion
tulip sun
Boss Mida for the goblin slot 😛
uncut vault
Gimme Crowley as a commander
tropic trail
Gazlowe
hollow dock
someones touchy about us talking about Sylvanas :p
tropic trail
Crowley for gilneas warfront xd
uncut vault
gazlowe's doing island expedition stuff
tulip sun
No Vris, it is just a boring topic.
uncut vault
same reason Im averse to guessing Shandris for a commander
tulip sun
We are discussing Warfronts
hollow dock
I was mentioning it since we were on the topic of 'Unless they really screw off the lore'
terse patrol
Gazlowe wouldnt risk the safety of Ratchet
hollow dock
theramore as a warfront
tulip sun
Shandris would be a good choice
ruby star
Slyvnanas is the worst sister
hollow dock
so yes it was relevant
tropic trail
What about Stonetalon Warfront?
mint arch
"boring topic" xD
ruby star
Alleria & Vereesa ❤
tulip sun
Gazlowe 100% would risk Ratchet
tropic trail
with elf commander and orc commander
hollow dock
Alleria is the best sister
ruby star
Look forward to seeing a revamped barrens like arathi
terse patrol
As a “mercenary”.
tulip sun
Does it say that?
uncut vault
but knowing blizz, each warfront needs at least a human or two
tulip sun
Huh...
terse patrol
If he helped in the Barrens, Ratchet would be hard pressed to be called neutral.
hollow dock
and an orc or two
terse patrol
The Alliance would nuke it.
hollow dock
We dont have nukes
tulip sun
What if the Warfront was southern and northern, with a bridge going over the crack
terse patrol
If they make Steamwheedle go Horde I’ll be annoyed
hollow dock
remember? We're not allowed to use the Vindicaar
mint arch
uncut vault
but my hopes are that the armor will be different themed each warfront, to match the pvp seasons
terse patrol
Azerite bombs
tulip sun
Steamwheedle are already secretly aiding Horde.
hollow dock
Guaranteed we don't get them.
tulip sun
-votes for taurne-
mint arch
horde can only use da bombs
tulip sun
-totally not biased towards tauren-
terse patrol
would be cool if we used an azerite bomb to blow up the wall between Mulgore and Thousand Needles
And flood Mulgore
uncut vault
I only say tauren cause I think undead are almost guaranteed a spot in the barrens warfront
mint arch
since sylvanas is crazy to be cool with further killing an already dyin planet 
hollow dock
Absolutely not biased at all towards those barbarous, unkempt, brutes that call themselves the horde.
tulip sun
-remembers that flooded map- Supposedly a glitch xD
uncut vault
they all got moved to orgrimmar, after all
terse patrol
would be cool tho @tulip sun
uncut vault
maybe the real map is jaina flooding mulgore
uncut vault
:^)
hollow dock
I'd be very happy with that.
tulip sun
Thunder Bluff becomes an island
terse patrol
It would be the “alliance is being morally grey” thing
Blizzard is so desperate to push
hollow dock
Jaina finally causing mass genocide she was always meant to do
tulip sun
and it would get Baine 100% against the Alliance
uncut vault
blizz is a fan of turning the cool bluffs into normal islands
hollow dock
until everyone is in Thunderbluff
tulip sun
Lol
hollow dock
and not dying
tulip sun
I remember watching the cataclysm trailer
mint arch
:)
tulip sun
I was not a lore fan when watching it, I thought the flooding was Mulgore
mint arch
avoiding senseless death 
terse patrol
😉
mint arch
and ya, fishies
uncut vault
baine's gonna chip off his whole horn this xpac, alliance tauren allied race
mint arch
🐟
mint arch
xD
tropic trail
Grim totem
terse patrol
gib alliance grim totem
uncut vault
really though magatha should totally be an alliance leader
tulip sun
Uhhhh
mint arch
fck magatha
uncut vault
alliance are allied with the grimtotem since cata lol
tropic trail
she killed cairne
mint arch
she needs to be killed off
ruby star
If we're talking about allied races, please no Tauren for alliance allied race xD
terse patrol
tbh I think they kept Magatha alive to be the Void leader for the Tauren
Where Baine is the Light leader
tropic trail
maybe there will be a FOR THE HORDE/ALLIANCE achieve part two where we kill the new race leaders
hollow dock
We already have blood elves in the alliance
why does it matter if we get any more horde races?
tropic trail
Like killing geya rah,the nightborne one,rastakhan and Mayla
mint arch
alliance are getting 🐍 horde getting 🦊
terse patrol
Alteraci humans for the Horde
ruby star
Actually you know the guild achivement to get races in the guild at max level?
will they add allied races to those
not seen it in beta
uncut vault
really though, not enough people address that the alliance never really ended their alliance with the grimtotem in cata
ruby star
Ah yeah true vris
tulip sun
I was pretty sure they attacked the Grimtotem, thus it was no more?
mint arch
blizzard probably have forgotten about that @uncut vault
ruby star
@hollow dock As you know it makes no sense for Vereesa/silver covenant to do nothing in the faction war, do you think Blizzzard purposely leaving them out or have something planned?
tulip sun
The fierce and cruel Grimtotem tauren of the Grimtotem Post in Stonetalon Mountains were briefly supported by the Alliance against the Horde. This cooperation disappeared, for the Alliance had plans to end Darkcloud's life.[23]
Led by IconSmall Grimtotem Male.gif Grundig Darkcloud.
agile token
But Anduin was really sad that cairne died
viral terrace
I've been playing as my DH on the beta and it seems that the DH is still very good. :)
agile token
The grimtotem were in a bad spot to everyone
tulip sun
I honestly expected them to kill them all off to end it
ruby star
I don't see that happening Khamin
tulip sun
But @uncut vault It ended according to wowpedia
uncut vault
I did the quests through stonetalon while leveling, it doesnt end
ruby star
Especially after they keep adding and doing stuff for High Elves plus the amount of blacklash and anger it would cause, I don't thnk blizz would risk that
uncut vault
its kinda just left
tulip sun
They planned to kill the dude though e.e
uncut vault
we ally with them, empower them, fight back horde soldiers in that pass
then we leave
ruby star
which dude?
terse patrol
People forget that Blizzard didnt finish a lot of the Alliances content in Cata
Blizzard works on the Horde first
Then they do the Alliancr
ruby star
Horde bias xd
uncut vault
yeah thats probably just an issue of
"hey we forgot alliance"
"just give em horde quests and slap a night elf on"
"lol sure lets go get lunch"
tulip sun
It happened tho
zealous basalt
oof
terse patrol
but ye, there is real bias in the team
terse patrol
^
uncut vault
the alliance doesnt actually end though
viral terrace
Hey there's a doctor who quote in the game now for Mag'nar orcs
"Enough of this wibbly wobbly timey wimey"
ruby star
I mean Ion is defo Horde bias, sure he does good for gameplay but he is defo bias
tulip sun
I just dont see it happening, Grimtotem joining Alliance
terse patrol
“but it happened tho porter”
zealous basalt
bias is forbidden
uncut vault
its more just an interesting idea
tulip sun
Therr are already even Grimtotem loyal to the Horde
uncut vault
alliance needs some of that morally grey juice sylvanas is storing up
ruby star
Ion has never played horde or at least we can assume so
uncut vault
magathas got some grey fur
ruby star
alliance*
tulip sun
Jevan Grimtotem and his lot
terse patrol
Grimtotem would add some needed morally grey
uncut vault
Jevan only leads a tiny part of the grimtotem
tulip sun
I am not saying thwy wouldnt, but dont see it
uncut vault
a majority went with magatha
they even still have their home in thousand needles in legion
zealous basalt
-Waits impatiently for the fucking prepatch annoucement-
uncut vault
soon ™
A) the number of teleports we've got is gonna get out of hand pretty fast
B) the boralus icon is just slightly too big
and its bugging me to death
they added a corridor!
dense plover
where is that?
uncut vault
end of the dock
dense plover
im still confused about why alliance doesnt have a silithus portal in their portal room
uncut vault
gives another exit from the docks
needs some guards though
also there is a portal in boralus, its in the harbormasters office
dense plover
yeah
but its weird its there and not the portal room
the horde has all of the portals in one room
dense plover
is it only there at 120+?
uncut vault
Ill check on a low level
dense plover
cuz the horde one is there from the start i think
uncut vault
makes sense that its for 120s though, cause isnt magni the emmisary?
dense plover
yeah
dense plover
but its just inconsistent that it exxists on horde lowbie
unless they changed that
lemme check a hordie lowbie
supple wharf
do the boralus guards still attack ally if they kill horde in town?
restive sage
bfa confirmed better than wod??
restive sage
-__
terse patrol
Cata ruined the world
terse patrol
how
terse patrol
Everywhere is in a perpetual state of being ruined.
“haha nobody bothered trying to clean this up”
Cata did more damage to the lore though
restive sage
honestly
i like that cata damaged the place
it made everything different and fresh
terse patrol
Warlords just built on old lore, and was at best an unrelated side story.
Cataclysm took this from me.
terse patrol
“hey look the horde is rampaging through ashenvale and fire elementals are raping hyjal”
“also we never resolved felwood”
uncut vault
bfa just starts with screwing over night elves
cata dedicated the upper half of kalimdor to it
hollow dock
"Night elves? Oh you mean that women race? Ha, watch this. We'll represent them right." - Blizzard's writing team as they proceed to improperly represent them.
uncut vault
and then a patch of "hey your sacred mountain is half burned"
restive sage
c:
uncut vault
still pissed they wasted hyjal on goddamn ragnaros
terse patrol
Cataclysm was the worst expansion, I stand by that.
restive sage
this content drought tho amirite
is it usually this long for an expansion to launch
hollow dock
ehhhh.
Again, I think cata is still better than WoD
simply on the virtue
it had content
restive sage
^^^
sour burrow
Interesting weather effect.....?
hollow dock
WoD didn't
terse patrol
I dont care though about the content
I care that they forever ruined most of the world.
uncut vault
this is the second shortest content gap isnt it
hollow dock
I do. I like to play a game I'm paying for
supple wharf
even so at least cata was only for 5 levels 😛
uncut vault
after TBC
tame scaffold
Classic is probably 2-3 years away
night swift
since they only just told us the patch they're building it off of
uncut vault
optimization is harder than it seems
hollow dock
^
They're doing more than just putting out a private server. they're integrating Classic into the rest of blizzard entertainments platform: Battle.net
restive sage
OMG
hollow dock
not to mention there is still a discussion on 'what changes and what makes Classic stop being Classic'
restive sage
do not say private server
night swift
private server
hollow dock
Nope
night swift
we don't know
hollow dock
not by a LOOOOOOOOOOOOONG shot
restive sage
but uh cough cough
night swift
but probably not
restive sage
not saying that i would know bu
hollow dock
Private servers barely have themselves functioning properly
restive sage
in terms of optimization tho
hollow dock
let alone blizzard. And again, as I said, the discussion is still going on
hollow dock
what can be changed in classic to keep the classic feel but not let it die within two months
night swift
how is that off topic?
restive sage
hes talking about classic
hollow dock
this is all related to Classic Servers and why it's taking so long
You started this topic. We expanded upon it. We're not off topic LOL
night swift
^
restive sage
i didnt start the topic
zealous basalt
Lets talk about Wrathion
night swift
Yeah you did?
restive sage
u r off topic considering your talking about it btw
if i go kill someone and you help me you still killed him
restive sage
HOW
night swift
🤔
restive sage
void dont make me
mint arch
sup
night swift
Yeah, I like to keep my servers private
restive sage
alright stop
night swift
restive sage
im litteraly about to cry
mint arch
🔥
night swift
😉
night swift
Alright I think we've had enough fun with them lol
zealous basalt
Am I the only one enjoying the fact that we are again, just soldiers in the army and not just a commander or the leader of our halls?
mint arch
im not enjoying it from the aspect that we're going from commanders/leaders back to soldiers
hollow dock
Im not enjoying it
mint arch
after WE defeated sargeras and legion
mint arch
why in hell would my character listen to anduin/sylvanas in this dumb war
night swift
Well our halls were mostly neutral factions so it'd be weird storming against the enemy with soldiers from your order
tulip sun
So not too bad
mint arch
id rather character were still order hall leaders
mint arch
well, in terms of systems, it IS legion 2.0 for much of it
zealous basalt
"Stop thinking you are the greatest thing of the universse"
mint arch
which is a good thing
zealous basalt
"You fucking casuls"
zealous basalt
"Can't even solo Argus by yourselves"
night swift
yet
mint arch
:/
night swift
unless its a void elf
restive sage
why would u want very skinny elves
ruby star
High Elves are indeed needed
restive sage
every type of elf imaginable ples
mint arch
noooo >:3
restive sage
:3
zealous basalt
"You think you know but you don't"
ruby star
THe alliance deserves high elves okay, I understand, you don't want thousands of elves but High ELves make sense
uncut vault
people say "no more elves" but theyre extremely different elves
mint arch
it can make sense, but not now
uncut vault
its like saying we shouldnt get zandalari
mint arch
do it after a few expansions
uncut vault
we have five trolls already
night swift
High Elves make more sense than void elves
night swift
they wanted to milk alleria's return
hollow dock
There's no lore around them that they're milking lol
mint arch
turalyon and alleria should have just retired and chilled with their son
after their 1000 years of war
night swift
they just sexy elves cause that draws in the people who don't care about lore
ruby star
High Elves make sense lore wise so 😉
tulip sun
Brainstorming how it would go
grizzled sleet
We have the light and the void on our side, we can't lose this war
uncut vault
I mean, horde has light on their side
hollow dock
I mean. In all fairness, the horde has never been able to win a flat out open conflict. They've had victories only from surprise attacks iirc.
uncut vault
and unlike the alliance, theyve got a font of holy power to draw from
uncut vault
vindicaar isnt a font of holy power, just a big cheese shaped space ship
ruby star
Death star
hollow dock
That has the crown of the triumvirate on it. Powered by it.
zealous basalt
hah and people calll it biased
uncut vault
I mean it is biased, biased towards Horde 😛
hollow dock
The alliance has always been at a winning position in the war, they're just not monsters so clearly we have to keep losingthe horde.
grizzled sleet
Actually alliance has more power than horde, but the horde can build something with azerite or something like this
hollow dock
Even though we can easily plow over them.
mint arch
make love, not war 
uncut vault
only real powerhouse the horde has is the sunwell, and at most they can use it for defense on a massive scale
hollow dock
Not ifit results in illegal weebisms
ruby star
Their sunwell is not defended well now
hollow dock
On a massive scale around Quel'thalas. Though we don't know if that's its actual limits
ruby star
The alliance could easily take Quel'thalas but blizz won't
grizzled sleet
I hope they add something like concordance on BFA, maybe with future patch necklace will be empowered and gain some traits
zealous basalt
"Azeroth healed buff"
"Kick everyone's ass with this present"
"Because Azeroth doesn't want more edgelords"
mint arch
ruby star
I just hope one day the alliance will retake Quel'thals, i think we will at somepoint, BFA maybe? But unlikely due to what they said at blizzcon however stuff can change drastically and they might be trying to trick. Though most likely 9.0+ we'll see a siege of silvermoon or something or invasion of quel'thalas unless Blizzard makes us go back to peace at end of BFA
mint arch
whats the point of retaking qt?
ruby star
Alleria and Umbric want to retake it for the alliance
ruby star
Nah, the blood elves are not fine
mint arch
u want void elves to live in a city with the sunwell?
grizzled sleet
Voidox : You can go back the void Alleria
Alleria : BUT I'M THE VOID !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AND I'M MY SCARS
zealous basalt
NOT URS TO TAEK
ruby star
Void Elves and High Elves would live there, and I'm sure they can think of safty precautions and even so I'm not bothered about the sunwell
mint arch
if alleria can get the blood elves to join alliance, sure
but to take it over? nah
void elves + sunwell is just disaster waiting to happen
uncut vault
Alleria already made the mistake with the sunwell, theyre not gonna do that plot point again
ruby star
Exactlt why Blizzard might make it happen then it = content
ruby star
They will just restrict Void elves from entering the sunwell area
grizzled sleet
Or void elves will gain more control over the void
Actually they are trained to control it
ruby star
The sunwell is not the whole of quel'thalas
grizzled sleet
Alleria even says it whn you speak to her as a void elf
ruby star
Void Elves can live in the rebuilt silvermoon with the high elves and those Blood Elves who choose to defect to alliance
uncut vault
the void elves arent doing it to live there, theyre doing it to redeem their people
terse patrol
tbh I could see some blood elves turning traitor and helping the Alliance get past the magical barriers into Quel’thalas.
I mean, if one guy did it for the Scourge
Wouldnt more do it for their old allies?
ruby star
I think Alleria and Umbric wanting to retake silvermoon is forshowding some sort of Quel'thalas patch or warfront at some point in the future
terse patrol
We’ll see
mint arch
i hope not
hollow dock
Im doubtful
grizzled sleet
What if, blood elves join the alliance but they still neutral with the horde
hollow dock
that wouldn't work
mint arch
that type of nuance is too much for blizzard writers
grizzled sleet
Actually DH can speak to each other
hollow dock
yea
ruby star
Why do you hate the idra void?
grizzled sleet
and Void elves / BE
hollow dock
because theyre demons
mint arch
dumb 2 faction limitations
hollow dock
that doesn't make what you said doable
hollow dock
No?
night swift
and pandaren can talk to each other
uncut vault
still think theyll resolve the high elf vs blood elf conflict post-BfA by having them unite once the horde is gone
hollow dock
Being able to talk the same language isn't removing a faction barrier. It doesn't even make them neutral to each other
since the horde can talk Common
ruby star
High elves and void elves vs blood elves and Night borne
mint arch
are the high elves allied with the void elves?
grizzled sleet
Yea but I said they can start from this and remove faction limit a little bit, like demon hunters can be neutral to each other while fighting other races
ruby star
I sadly don't see high elves unite, as the horde isn't gonna go in WoW they won't remove a core faction or would they?
@mint arch they are in the same faction
mint arch
say alliance takes over qt, then who gets the city?
grizzled sleet
Or let you choose if you want to fight other DH or not
Same for VE and BE, let you choose if you want to fight each other
mint arch
same faction doesnt necessarily mean 100% allies
ruby star
The Alliance would but High Elves and Void ekves would live there and an defect blood elves or civlians
hollow dock
High Elves implied and not directly said do not require the Sunwell anymore.
zealous basalt
they said something about prepatch
And I was like 😄
Then "Collections"
and I was like
:C
mint arch
also, are they okay with kicking out the blood elves? from the sunwell?
hollow dock
Probably not. Which is why they'd want them to boot back into the alliance
rather than remove them from Silvermoon and Quel'thalas
mint arch
arent void elves still basically blood elves, it takes more than 1 year to suddenly hate ur past family/friends
ruby star
Sadly they won't rejoin the alliance due tj gameplay unless blizzard takes a huge risk and changes them somehow
terse patrol
Pre-BFA, Sunwell Plateau was a neutral ground.
High Elves were allowed to live there.
ruby star
I think Sunwell plateau would stay neutral but the rest of Quel'thalas would be alliance controlled
As I am sure Anduin wouldn't wanna cut the blood elves from the sunwell
uncut vault
not live there, they took pilgrimages
ruby star
It would be nice to see quel'thalas/silvermoon updated once rhe alliance eventually retakes it
uncut vault
My bet is that if they don't have plans to unite them post-bfa, itll just become a warfront with alliance owning ghostlands and horde owning eversong
cause as much as Id like it, I cant see silvermoon being taken fully
ruby star
It would be perfect chance to add high elves too, but an updated ghostlands and eversongg would look very nice
They did a great job on arathi
restive sage
😉
dense plover
i still dont think we will get anything there
tulip sun
I like the idea if a warfront there
dense plover
integrating all that stuff on to the main continent would be a TON of work
for a tiny bit of payoff
tulip sun
It makes sense for the alliance to push northward
dense plover
not exactly
hollow dock
I mean
ruby star
I mean they will have to do it eventuality Peach
dense plover
it honestly would be a military mistake
tulip sun
And they will have to eventually update them
dense plover
the entrance to blood elf lands is through a very tight mountain pass
dense plover
its literally how you lose a whole army to 100 men
hollow dock
12 years without touching them?
uncut vault
they dont really need to put it on the main continent
ruby star
Peach lore wise we could invade and take Quel'thalas easily
uncut vault
can just put it on a new map, we portal there anyways
tulip sun
They will eventually
terse patrol
@dense plover This is also a setting with airships, gyrocopters, and mages who can teleport.
dense plover
retaking quelthalas would not be easy
hollow dock
already
tulip sun
There has been no need
terse patrol
That mountain pass doesn't amount for much in modern wow.
hollow dock
The horde does NOT have the vindicaar
tulip sun
If there is content involved
ruby star
The horde does not habe thr vindicaar
dense plover
the vindacaar isnt a war machine
hollow dock
Yes it is LOL
terse patrol
wot
dense plover
it has a gun
dense plover
and i do not think velen would let it be used against the horde
terse patrol
It has a gun, can literally teleport ARMIES
hollow dock
Doesn't matter
uncut vault
you enter the warfronts on an airship, mountains are not a problem with this lol
hollow dock
and the leader of the army already pledged it to the alliance
tulip sun
The gun dont do kuch tbh, maybe take out a gathering of soldiers
dense plover
look, even if they can, i dont see them doing anything with the blood elf zones
ruby star
Don't forget the ligghtforged warframe things thry have
dense plover
just like we arent getting a burned teldrassil zone
ruby star
Peach personally I think eventually they will update them
tulip sun
Also, why would it be an easy conquest?
dense plover
or anything on bloodmyst or azuremyst
hollow dock
Blood elves haven't really had to fight a fully organized army since what.
Second war?
terse patrol
The Lightforged Draenei literally relish the idea of going to war again. When your existence has been all about war, war becomes your thing.
dense plover
blood elves had to fight off undead
hollow dock
not really kham
the war map clearly shows the horde doesn't go north
they go south
ruby star
The blood elves are not in a postion to defend themselves against the alliance
hollow dock
the alliance is already in the way of the hordes path into Quel'thalas
terse patrol
^
tulip sun
Portals.
terse patrol
The Alliance controls all of the Plaguelands.
tulip sun
Ships
terse patrol
There are some Dark Rangers in Silverpine.
zealous basalt
War never changes
terse patrol
But they're surrounded.
uncut vault
guys, we enter the zones via portal and airship already for the warfronts
hollow dock
getting ships in is nearly impossible.
uncut vault
horde built a base in an area that doesnt make much sense for their current position against the alliance
logistics arent that important
terse patrol
I assume the Horde could set up portals between Suramar and Quel'thalas.
ruby star
Didn't slyv wanna abandon the eastern kingdoms?
hollow dock
as for a portal network, blizzard hasn't really abused magic like that.
Nah she doesn't
she wants the opposite
ruby star
Ah
terse patrol
Nope, she wants everything.
restive sage
is sylvanas a void elf
restive sage
but
hollow dock
an undead elf
tulip sun
At the very least
terse patrol
I dont get people who defend Sylvanas. What do you think Sylvanas will do if she kills and ressurects all the Alliance?
tulip sun
I see Thalyssra setting up defensives with the Blood Elves in the case of an attack
terse patrol
She'll turn on the Horde.
restive sage
how come sylvanas doesnt have missing flesh like the other undead
ruby star
The blood elves defences won't last
hollow dock
Dark Rangers have slowed rot
terse patrol
She'll kill everyone else in the Horde.
hollow dock
Sylvanas being hte first dark ranger, she uses magic to hold her magic together
hollow dock
however, it won't stay that way.
ruby star
The kul'tiran fleet can lead the navel attack and others can can do the other attscks
restive sage
it wont??
hollow dock
Even Sylvanas will eventually succumb to rot
tulip sun
Hm..
terse patrol
There was some really old lore that implied that Dark Rangers use illusion magic to hide their horrifying rotten bodies.
But that was retconned
tulip sun
I don't know if the ALliance would send ALL those forces for Quel'thalas
hollow dock
that's why she's trying to find a way to circumvent that eventuality
restive sage
cant w8 >:)
hollow dock
*forcibly making them help the horde
hollow dock
cuz Sylvanas isn't evil ya know
tulip sun
Nightborne and Sin'dorei taking the lead.
ruby star
High elves and Void elves vs Blood elves and nightborne would be truly epic
hollow dock
¯_(ツ)_/¯
I'd rather see Nightborne vs Night Elves (original version Night elves mind you)
terse patrol
that scene though with the teenage girl who held hands with her Forsaken dad. 💔 @hollow dock
then sylvanas killed them
restive sage
omg
mint arch
gmo
restive sage
are you trying to justify the burning of teldrassil???
ruby star
Perhaps High elves,Night elves and Void elves vs Blood elves,san'alyn/dark eangees and Nightborne?
hollow dock
=3
restive sage
:3
mint arch
lots of ppl want to justify it cause purple bewbs
tulip sun
Nightborne vs Night Elves seems unlikely
restive sage
i support purple bewbs
terse patrol
Sylvanas is 100% evil. Butchering the Desolate Council, which was comprised mostly of civilians, who just wanted to see their families.
hollow dock
considering Thalryssa totes
wants to try her skills
against Tyrande
kinda expected that to happen
mint arch
thalryssa -__-
tulip sun
That was a misdirected quote and you know that :/
tulip sun
It was heard with the Highmountain Emissary
mint arch
I hate the entire alliance cause tryrande said some mean things to me
tulip sun
Not Thalysra
ruby star
How long will it take Malfurion to heal?
terse patrol
Thalyssra, aka, "i dont like being called out for being righteously distrusted, so i'm joining the horde"
uncut vault
hes up and walking in stormwind already
hollow dock
However long the plot takes Drorith
restive sage
sylvanas is so evil