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zealous basalt Jul 9, 2018, 1:28 PM

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You are so freaking outdated on data

viral terrace Jul 9, 2018, 1:31 PM

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@frosty matrix But also, Pandarens were in Northrend when the Scourge killed a lot of people, so you could say that Pandarens could've been raised. So maybe we should get the option to be a pandaren DK even though I doubt it'll happen

clever ember Jul 9, 2018, 1:31 PM

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Here are the specific pages for Mag'har and Dark Irons

http://www.wowhead.com/maghar-orc-allied-race
http://www.wowhead.com/dark-iron-dwarf-allied-race

Wowhead

Mag'har Orc Allied Race

Everything about the Mag'har Orc Allied Race in Battle for Azeroth: how to unlock the race and Heritage Armor, their available classes and racial abilities, as well as customization options.

Wowhead

Dark Iron Dwarves Allied Race

Everything about the Dark Iron Dwarf Allied Race in Battle for Azeroth: how to unlock the race and Heritage Armor, their available classes and racial abilities, as well as customization options.

zealous basalt Jul 9, 2018, 1:31 PM

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@viral terrace

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There is a panda dk

frosty matrix Jul 9, 2018, 1:32 PM

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Yeah, that's true. I think they hand-waved that as "there weren't enough Pandaren there to be raised as DKs to make it feasible to have them as a playable race"

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From a design standpoint, I do understand somewhat; the whole dark, edgy, "must-inflict-pain" schtick of DK's is basically the antithesis of the Pandaren culture as it was introduced to us in MoP

grizzled sleet Jul 9, 2018, 1:32 PM

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The chosen achiev and title will be gone with prepatch or BFA?

viral terrace Jul 9, 2018, 1:32 PM

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Though the Knight of the Ebon Hold could raise the Pandarens that were killed in Pandaria in the war?

zealous basalt Jul 9, 2018, 1:32 PM

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Prepatch

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No

grizzled sleet Jul 9, 2018, 1:32 PM

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Why?

zealous basalt Jul 9, 2018, 1:33 PM

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Why what

viral terrace Jul 9, 2018, 1:33 PM

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I think what he means is, why won't the title and achieve be gone in prepatch

zealous basalt Jul 9, 2018, 1:33 PM

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Also

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Ah

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Idk

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Ask Brozzard

grizzled sleet Jul 9, 2018, 1:33 PM

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Why are they gone with prepatch ? We're not 120 yet, doesn't make the achiev easier

zealous basalt Jul 9, 2018, 1:34 PM

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Probably due the new mechanics of classes

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Might make it easier

grizzled sleet Jul 9, 2018, 1:34 PM

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Still doesn't make sense, Argus heroic mount stay until BFA

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should be the same with ToV

zealous basalt Jul 9, 2018, 1:34 PM

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Idk mimig

grizzled sleet Jul 9, 2018, 1:34 PM

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because the transmog is gone too

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and you can't get it anymore

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mythic transmog

zealous basalt Jul 9, 2018, 1:35 PM

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You can get

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The mythic parta

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Parts*

grizzled sleet Jul 9, 2018, 1:35 PM

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not all

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it's not complete

zealous basalt Jul 9, 2018, 1:35 PM

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Minus the shoulders and head

frosty matrix Jul 9, 2018, 1:36 PM

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I thought the Violet Spellwing and AOTC are in fact removed with the pre-patch?

zealous basalt Jul 9, 2018, 1:36 PM

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Why would it

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The violet spellwing isnt a drop

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Its quest reward

frosty matrix Jul 9, 2018, 1:37 PM

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That's how it's been in the past. The heroic mount becomes unavailable, and guaranteed mythic mounts are squashed to a 1% drop rate.

craggy nexus Jul 9, 2018, 1:37 PM

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It is a quest reward for getting the title.

grizzled sleet Jul 9, 2018, 1:37 PM

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Mythic mount still 100% until BFA too

craggy nexus Jul 9, 2018, 1:37 PM

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If they remove the title, then you can't get the mount.

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Yes.

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You will also not be able to get Cutting Edge after prepatch.

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You can still get the mythic kill and the achievement for the mythic kill itself, but not the Cutting Edge Feat of Strength. The titles similar to this also disappeared before the release of the next tier of raiding. That is basically what is happening here.

frosty matrix Jul 9, 2018, 1:40 PM

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The Grove Warden from Heroic Archimonde was available until Legion's launch, but the Kor'kron War Wolf from Garrosh was made unavailable in the pre-patch.

zealous basalt Jul 9, 2018, 1:40 PM

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Along the looms

grizzled sleet Jul 9, 2018, 1:41 PM

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I just hope they make the mythic transmog from ToV a drop

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can't farm it on all armors now

craggy nexus Jul 9, 2018, 1:42 PM

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Are you talking about the mythic chosen gear?

grizzled sleet Jul 9, 2018, 1:42 PM

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yes

craggy nexus Jul 9, 2018, 1:42 PM

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If the title goes away, the gear goes with it.

zealous basalt Jul 9, 2018, 1:43 PM

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Besides

craggy nexus Jul 9, 2018, 1:43 PM

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You get the set for the title, not because you farmed the instance.

zealous basalt Jul 9, 2018, 1:43 PM

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The last monday is the last chance where we all are op

grizzled sleet Jul 9, 2018, 1:43 PM

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I know

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I mean

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farm it with each armor type

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mail cloth plate leather

craggy nexus Jul 9, 2018, 1:44 PM

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Oh, what you are trying to say is that they open it up to the people that already have it, but are looking for the other armor types.

grizzled sleet Jul 9, 2018, 1:44 PM

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It may good too, I just can't do it on mail cloth plate now

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or keep it until BFA launch

craggy nexus Jul 9, 2018, 1:45 PM

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I think I understand what you are saying. I can agree with something like that. Personally, I don't want to farm it on all the armor classes either.

restive sage Jul 9, 2018, 1:45 PM

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Well, I'm gonna go log in and see if I got the beta today

night swift Jul 9, 2018, 2:12 PM

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You can farm the mythic ToV set. Just some items are locked behind the Ensemble like the helm and shoulders

grizzled sleet Jul 9, 2018, 2:13 PM

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They should at least add them to the black market or make the ensemble drop on mythic bosses

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But removing them completely is a bad idea

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You had to do the achiev on 4 chars to get them

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Some people even abused the bug where you get 2 armors mailed to you if you login to a second char on a second wow account within the same battlenet

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So they didn't even deserve them

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It's not really a reward

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Title is, mog is really not

zealous basalt Jul 9, 2018, 2:21 PM

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They should

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Make the ensemble droppable

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Like the others

hollow dock Jul 9, 2018, 2:28 PM

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The others arent drops thi

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Ones from a quest and the others are rewarded to you

zealous basalt Jul 9, 2018, 2:31 PM

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No

restive sage Jul 9, 2018, 2:32 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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who even needs the beta

terse patrol Jul 9, 2018, 2:40 PM

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Nice, Mag’har get an actual area in Orgrimmar.

hollow dock Jul 9, 2018, 2:41 PM

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was that in doubt? o= they have no where else to be

tulip sun Jul 9, 2018, 2:41 PM

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@terse patrol honkDid they get more than a tiny buulding or still just that?

hollow dock Jul 9, 2018, 2:42 PM

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Could be worse. they could be like the goblins

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and just not exist anywhere

tulip sun Jul 9, 2018, 2:42 PM

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They have a harbor

terse patrol Jul 9, 2018, 2:42 PM

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Mag’har have an expansion. shrug

restive sage Jul 9, 2018, 2:42 PM

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wow

hollow dock Jul 9, 2018, 2:42 PM

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they closed off Alternate Draenor tho

terse patrol Jul 9, 2018, 2:42 PM

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i aint care

restive sage Jul 9, 2018, 2:42 PM

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you cant go into draenor?

hollow dock Jul 9, 2018, 2:43 PM

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Lorewise Slayer

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lorewise

tulip sun Jul 9, 2018, 2:43 PM

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In lore

restive sage Jul 9, 2018, 2:43 PM

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i think i broke something

terse patrol Jul 9, 2018, 2:43 PM

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At any rate, Dark Irons get Shadowforge, which tbh likely required less work. It’s just a pre existing area.

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But they make up for it with the sick mole machine

hollow dock Jul 9, 2018, 2:44 PM

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the horde got outdoor Suramar

terse patrol Jul 9, 2018, 2:44 PM

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^

hollow dock Jul 9, 2018, 2:44 PM

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unlike Shadowforge, which for now, is just for Dark Irons

terse patrol Jul 9, 2018, 2:44 PM

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but y’know, alliance bias @hollow dock

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(Despite Ion and most WoW writers being avid Horde players)

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hehe

hollow dock Jul 9, 2018, 2:45 PM

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and there's no horde bias at all

terse patrol Jul 9, 2018, 2:45 PM

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At least we have Christie Golden now.

hollow dock Jul 9, 2018, 2:46 PM

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She'll make our Golden boi even more Golden

grizzled sleet Jul 9, 2018, 2:46 PM

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Murlocs for the horde

hollow dock Jul 9, 2018, 2:46 PM

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it's like Golden Squared

terse patrol Jul 9, 2018, 2:47 PM

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but ye I laugh when people say theres no Horde bias. They clearly don’t know the faction most important Blizzard employees play. ;P

hollow dock Jul 9, 2018, 2:47 PM

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Mike plays alliance

zealous basalt Jul 9, 2018, 2:48 PM

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Who is Mike

hollow dock Jul 9, 2018, 2:50 PM

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Mike Morhime. President and Founder of Blizzard Entertainment and headcanoned source for Gnomes.

rich apex Jul 9, 2018, 2:51 PM

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I saw Golden wearing a Sylvie t shirt

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Horde bias confirmed

terse patrol Jul 9, 2018, 2:54 PM

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@hollow dock where do they say he plays Alliance?

viral terrace Jul 9, 2018, 2:55 PM

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Do you guys think they'll take the time to update the Zandalari Troll models in the old MoP raids?

clever ember Jul 9, 2018, 2:55 PM

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Probably not.

grizzled sleet Jul 9, 2018, 2:56 PM

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Do you guys think they'll take the time to update the Orcs models in the old BC raids?

clever ember Jul 9, 2018, 2:56 PM

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Though, they don't look that much different than the ones we are getting in BfA

hollow dock Jul 9, 2018, 2:56 PM

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http://handclaw.rampagingpolygons.com/WoW/CataHair/GnomeHair1.jpg take a guess Honk

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and never Mim. Those are Fel Orcs.

grizzled sleet Jul 9, 2018, 2:57 PM

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It's easy to turn their skin color a little bit more red

hollow dock Jul 9, 2018, 2:57 PM

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We've had this discussion on what altering old code can do to the game :p

grizzled sleet Jul 9, 2018, 2:58 PM

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Yea altering code to turn PrincePepe into KingPepe can cause this : murloc

hollow dock Jul 9, 2018, 2:58 PM

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Again, four extra slots onto the base backpack broke the game for two years until they found a fix for it

grizzled sleet Jul 9, 2018, 2:59 PM

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murloc

terse patrol Jul 9, 2018, 2:59 PM

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As someone who may or may not have used private servers, changing NPC models isn’t that intensive.

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cough

hollow dock Jul 9, 2018, 2:59 PM

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HE SAID IT

terse patrol Jul 9, 2018, 2:59 PM

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At any rate

hollow dock Jul 9, 2018, 2:59 PM

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THE BAD WORD

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HE SAID IT

grizzled sleet Jul 9, 2018, 3:00 PM

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/attacktarget Honkerton

hollow dock Jul 9, 2018, 3:00 PM

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on that note, Private Servers do end up not having the legitimate code of WoW and end up having copies patched together by other players/programmers.

terse patrol Jul 9, 2018, 3:01 PM

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Its not that different though. But we’re getting into dangerous “get smacked by the staff” territory.

grizzled sleet Jul 9, 2018, 3:02 PM

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I think they just need to hire a different team charged to update old models, I mean old models not related to new stuff, bcause all they updated until now is present in the new expansion

terse patrol Jul 9, 2018, 3:02 PM

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Issue is

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Whats the point, they’ll be super HD models running around in a BC graphics world

grizzled sleet Jul 9, 2018, 3:03 PM

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just imagine, if they update old dungeons / zone, 1-2 zone and 1-2 dungeon per major patch, it will make leveling more interesting

hollow dock Jul 9, 2018, 3:03 PM

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^

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and it's not even worth the effort and time required to do it when BFA is coming out and as soon as that comes out, the team splits into making hte next expansions groundwork and the future content updates

restive sage Jul 9, 2018, 3:03 PM

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why isnt blizzard doing anything about the bug i reported 😦

hollow dock Jul 9, 2018, 3:03 PM

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Leveling has already been made inteteresting with the scaling tech applied to the old world.

grizzled sleet Jul 9, 2018, 3:04 PM

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maybe more enjoyable ?

hollow dock Jul 9, 2018, 3:04 PM

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That's to subjective.

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It's enjoyable to me since I can actually finish a zone, but not to someone else because they can't three shot things

restive sage Jul 9, 2018, 3:07 PM

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blizz is so mean

night swift Jul 9, 2018, 3:08 PM

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Blizz probably has other bugs to fix

grizzled sleet Jul 9, 2018, 3:08 PM

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I think I'm that kind of antagonist who want to sacrifice anything to make a new world murloc I wish I had the power to sacrifice the souls of every person lower than lvl 100 and use their power to revamp the world murloc

tulip sun Jul 9, 2018, 3:09 PM

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So

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At least Ji isnt alone in the corner anymore

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He can chat with Geyarah

zealous basalt Jul 9, 2018, 3:09 PM

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uff

hollow dock Jul 9, 2018, 3:09 PM

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someone check on Aysa

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maybe she talks with moira

tulip sun Jul 9, 2018, 3:10 PM

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Nah, she is still alone at the lake.

hollow dock Jul 9, 2018, 3:11 PM

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h o r d e b i a s

zealous basalt Jul 9, 2018, 3:15 PM

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OHhh

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you said the b word

strange falcon Jul 9, 2018, 3:17 PM

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b word 😧

rich apex Jul 9, 2018, 3:17 PM

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🅱 ias

strange falcon Jul 9, 2018, 3:18 PM

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🅱 oneless 🅱 ias

restive sage Jul 9, 2018, 3:25 PM

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guys

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where is the haunted house in the crimson forest

hollow dock Jul 9, 2018, 3:26 PM

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In the crimson part of the forest

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=^)

restive sage Jul 9, 2018, 3:27 PM

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i dont see it

neat idol Jul 9, 2018, 5:38 PM

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Beta down?

tropic trail Jul 9, 2018, 6:09 PM

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yay old content stuff still 1 shotting you on beta

zealous basalt Jul 9, 2018, 6:09 PM

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You again

tropic trail Jul 9, 2018, 6:10 PM

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what you want fanboy

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weeb

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when do they intend to adress old content scaling

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with 30 days to launch Im getting conerned

agile token Jul 9, 2018, 6:11 PM

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I thought they already fixed most of it

tropic trail Jul 9, 2018, 6:11 PM

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idk just got 1 shot by ultraxion trash

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then went firelands baleroc crystal 1 shot me

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then went MOP horridon add 1 shot poison

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so no 90% of it is still not adressed

agile token Jul 9, 2018, 6:12 PM

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guess we'll have to see where it goes

tropic trail Jul 9, 2018, 6:12 PM

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ignoring the fact that bosses take a considerably longer time to kill

strange falcon Jul 9, 2018, 6:12 PM

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it's because you dont have the "legacy buff"

tropic trail Jul 9, 2018, 6:12 PM

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Im expecting this to go live and ppl dont report it

strange falcon Jul 9, 2018, 6:12 PM

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in 7.3.5 and even before

tropic trail Jul 9, 2018, 6:12 PM

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we do actually

strange falcon Jul 9, 2018, 6:12 PM

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🤔

tropic trail Jul 9, 2018, 6:12 PM

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its just not tuned properly

strange falcon Jul 9, 2018, 6:12 PM

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and even then it's just a numbers problem

tropic trail Jul 9, 2018, 6:12 PM

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🤔

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we do have the legacy buff its just that spells are not tuned to miss or do lower dmg appropriate to the squish

zealous basalt Jul 9, 2018, 6:14 PM

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Report it

tropic trail Jul 9, 2018, 6:14 PM

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I did but browsing trough the forums people are seriously abusing their beta access

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absolutely pointless topics like "why does vanish heal me for 3% as opposewd to 5% on live" and silly stuff thats irrelevant

hollow dock Jul 9, 2018, 6:15 PM

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Believe it or not certain things are fixed under their internal build that isn't public.

tropic trail Jul 9, 2018, 6:15 PM

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just not intro quest rofl

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its been bugged for 5 days straight

hollow dock Jul 9, 2018, 6:16 PM

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the build rotation is 7-9 days.

tropic trail Jul 9, 2018, 6:16 PM

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Introduction main quest should be more urgent than " build rotations "

hollow dock Jul 9, 2018, 6:16 PM

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not really since there's a work around andpeople still are able to get to the mainlands.

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Plus if they already have it fixed inan upcomming build, they don't really need to push that in

tropic trail Jul 9, 2018, 6:17 PM

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implying workaround that skips 90% of expansion content is sufficent for a release close beta build

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🤔

hollow dock Jul 9, 2018, 6:17 PM

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if anything, holding off on it allows more reports and more circumstances to flow in thus allowing a more precise fix rather than a blanket quick fix that only works for a few scenario's

tropic trail Jul 9, 2018, 6:18 PM

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it worked just fine a week ago idk why they had to forcefully disable it, at least they can be more transperant

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because basically atm you CANT play bfa

hollow dock Jul 9, 2018, 6:18 PM

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It's broken why don't they fix it

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to

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they intentionally broke it

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wat

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pick one

agile token Jul 9, 2018, 6:18 PM

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We don't know what happened

tropic trail Jul 9, 2018, 6:18 PM

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its intentionally DISABLED

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because its bugged

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I dont have to pick one its both

agile token Jul 9, 2018, 6:19 PM

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Where is the post for that

tropic trail Jul 9, 2018, 6:19 PM

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there is none thats why I said they are being vague

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this has been a hot topic for 5 days 0 blues

agile token Jul 9, 2018, 6:20 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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Yeah

tropic trail Jul 9, 2018, 6:21 PM

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0 blues idk whats going on

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they cant even acknowledge that the INTRO quest has been gone for 5 days straight

hollow dock Jul 9, 2018, 6:22 PM

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clearly the community managers are 100% clue'd in on all the things the devs are currently doing and are free to tell us whatever is happening

zealous basalt Jul 9, 2018, 6:22 PM

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points to yak here

restive sage Jul 9, 2018, 6:22 PM

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---->

tropic trail Jul 9, 2018, 6:22 PM

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a simple "we're working on it" is sufficent

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even without ETA

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fanboy-ism is strong here

restive sage Jul 9, 2018, 6:23 PM

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c:

tropic trail Jul 9, 2018, 6:23 PM

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this whole thing is deja vu

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severe bugs close to launch, blues being non-existent and fanboys going : It's BETA herpa derp"

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reminds me of WOD

sullen dagger Jul 9, 2018, 6:24 PM

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Evening. Guys

zealous basalt Jul 9, 2018, 6:24 PM

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everything reminds you of WoD m8

hollow dock Jul 9, 2018, 6:24 PM

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apparently because we're not willing to demonize blizzard

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we're fanboys

tropic trail Jul 9, 2018, 6:25 PM

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justifiably criticizing =/= demonizing

sullen dagger Jul 9, 2018, 6:25 PM

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Ah that songasong again

tropic trail Jul 9, 2018, 6:25 PM

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thats what fanboys cant grasp

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altho Im a warlock main demonizing might be in my nature rofl

hollow dock Jul 9, 2018, 6:26 PM

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justifiably criticizing people who don't have any real control over what they can tell us to say they're doing a shit job.

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aight

tropic trail Jul 9, 2018, 6:27 PM

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my concern was mainly directed to the devs for not providing/allowing to share said info

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not CS

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I am fully awere CS are not game devs

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and say Im wrong all you want but you can't deny that it's slightly concerning a introduction main quest is broken so close to release

hollow dock Jul 9, 2018, 6:29 PM

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the CS are the blues that post on the forums m8

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so when you say the blues aren't telling us anything, they are the blues

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In which, new builds break things that aren't broken. It happens. It's a recent breaking and cna be fixed if ones patient

tropic trail Jul 9, 2018, 6:30 PM

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its already been 5 days, I'm sorry to say but with 30 days to release it's concerning

agile token Jul 9, 2018, 6:30 PM

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I mean its broken on beta

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It wont be on live

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that would be so stupid

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And blizzard would put the release later

tropic trail Jul 9, 2018, 6:31 PM

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you sound too confident, but it's not the only the intro quest

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hopefully they fix this mess before live

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but bfa beta is one of the worst Ive been in

hollow dock Jul 9, 2018, 6:31 PM

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Ok? I've already told you

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the build rotation is 7-9 days

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you won't see the fix until 7-9 days have passed at earliest

tropic trail Jul 9, 2018, 6:32 PM

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well youre kinda wrong there was a build change yday that didnt fix it

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there was also one tuesday

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quest broke thursday

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so I cant really relate it to the build

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also Intro quest not working should be hotfix worthy not wait 9 days rofl

agile token Jul 9, 2018, 6:33 PM

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True

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It is weird for blizzard to not have adressed this

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This is not something they would do

tropic trail Jul 9, 2018, 6:33 PM

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its odd to say the least hopefully they shed some light soon

agile token Jul 9, 2018, 6:34 PM

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Maybe

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For me, the intro quest didn't appear the moment we had to test the pre-patch realm

zealous basalt Jul 9, 2018, 6:34 PM

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Which intro?

agile token Jul 9, 2018, 6:34 PM

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Which it makes it look like the people who are already past the intro quest can do what they want but blizz doesn't want more people

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The BFA starting quest

zealous basalt Jul 9, 2018, 6:35 PM

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Ah

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I got those the moment i got in

agile token Jul 9, 2018, 6:35 PM

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But then again they would have said it

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yeah

tropic trail Jul 9, 2018, 6:41 PM

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it works for horde shaman only for w.e reason

zealous basalt Jul 9, 2018, 6:41 PM

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Bias

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kek

night swift Jul 9, 2018, 6:46 PM

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Intro quest worked fine for me

tropic trail Jul 9, 2018, 6:55 PM

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worked being the key word here

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past tense

restive sage Jul 9, 2018, 6:57 PM

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whats the point in reporting bugs if blizz doesnt even do anything when you do that 😦

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am sad now

agile token Jul 9, 2018, 6:57 PM

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They do

night swift Jul 9, 2018, 6:57 PM

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Cause thats one out of probably hundreds of reports theyre getting

agile token Jul 9, 2018, 6:57 PM

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We're just assuming this was on purpose

restive sage Jul 9, 2018, 6:58 PM

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i reported a few common bugs and theyre still there

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and a HUGE one

uncut vault Jul 9, 2018, 6:58 PM

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Guys it’s Monday

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There will be a build this week

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Probably tomorrow

zealous basalt Jul 9, 2018, 6:58 PM

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ITS wednesday my dudes

night swift Jul 9, 2018, 7:06 PM

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Slayer bugs don’t just magically get fixed overnight

restive sage Jul 9, 2018, 7:11 PM

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but but

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i reported said bug 2 weeks ago

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wut is the excuse for THAT

rich apex Jul 9, 2018, 7:12 PM

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What do you mean Blizz isn't personally attending your problems

restive sage Jul 9, 2018, 7:14 PM

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these arent my problems

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its their problems

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😠

feral belfry Jul 9, 2018, 7:21 PM

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jesus you again mate. You need to calm it in so many levels lol.

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Don't forget blizzard has millions and millions of players

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might take them just 2 weeks to go through the bug logs

restive sage Jul 9, 2018, 7:22 PM

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millions of people arent on the test realms

feral belfry Jul 9, 2018, 7:22 PM

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does not matter takes time.

uncut vault Jul 9, 2018, 7:22 PM

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But thousands are

feral belfry Jul 9, 2018, 7:22 PM

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the point there is millions of players in total where other games have 1000's lol

uncut vault Jul 9, 2018, 7:22 PM

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And thousands of bug reports are given each day

feral belfry Jul 9, 2018, 7:23 PM

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I reported like 7 bugs just during the one event of small / large issues

restive sage Jul 9, 2018, 7:23 PM

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u guys dont understand

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😦

feral belfry Jul 9, 2018, 7:23 PM

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We do

restive sage Jul 9, 2018, 7:23 PM

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no u dont

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just w8

feral belfry Jul 9, 2018, 7:24 PM

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we understand you think the world revolves around you. Telling how blizzard should make their game to sell more copies, etc. We know you just a person who has no clue what their talking about half the time who seeks attention 😛

restive sage Jul 9, 2018, 7:24 PM

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uh what?

feral belfry Jul 9, 2018, 7:24 PM

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refer to yesterdays slider conversation

restive sage Jul 9, 2018, 7:24 PM

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because i said they should improve the character creation?

zealous basalt Jul 9, 2018, 7:25 PM

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Dude

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With that attitude

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You won't get a beta

restive sage Jul 9, 2018, 7:25 PM

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i dont need th ebeta

zealous basalt Jul 9, 2018, 7:25 PM

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Remembers the same person yelling because he had no beta

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Ok

restive sage Jul 9, 2018, 7:25 PM

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w8 a sec

feral belfry Jul 9, 2018, 7:26 PM

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got my Mini Tank today and then it was 225 unique pets so I got the vermling one too woot 😃

zealous basalt Jul 9, 2018, 7:26 PM

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oof

tropic trail Jul 9, 2018, 7:26 PM

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Kane your logic hurts my brain

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guy is right

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game bugs ARE their problems

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in fact its their JOB

feral belfry Jul 9, 2018, 7:26 PM

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What?

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He depends instant services

tropic trail Jul 9, 2018, 7:27 PM

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youre ignorant beyond belief

feral belfry Jul 9, 2018, 7:27 PM

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demands*

tropic trail Jul 9, 2018, 7:27 PM

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he never said that

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youre assuming what he demands

feral belfry Jul 9, 2018, 7:27 PM

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it's in wording above

tropic trail Jul 9, 2018, 7:27 PM

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he has a valid point Blizz ahs been increadibly vague and slacking this beta

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do you know what other beta had those issues

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WOD

feral belfry Jul 9, 2018, 7:27 PM

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Oh yeah a conspiracy nut lol

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time to ignore this channel for a while lol

zealous basalt Jul 9, 2018, 7:28 PM

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W8 kane no

tropic trail Jul 9, 2018, 7:28 PM

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spineless fanboy-ism leads nowhere either

restive sage Jul 9, 2018, 7:29 PM

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📎 Zandalar.PNG

rich apex Jul 9, 2018, 7:30 PM

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Blizz really should fix the orc mage bug

restive sage Jul 9, 2018, 7:30 PM

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wut

rich apex Jul 9, 2018, 7:30 PM

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That can't possibly have been intentional

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khadgarface

zealous basalt Jul 9, 2018, 7:30 PM

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LOL

restive sage Jul 9, 2018, 7:30 PM

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thats not the bug in the screenshot 😦

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theres another one

agile token Jul 9, 2018, 7:31 PM

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BFA without max settings WutFace

tropic trail Jul 9, 2018, 7:31 PM

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orcs clearly not smart enough

agile token Jul 9, 2018, 7:31 PM

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I was not prepared

restive sage Jul 9, 2018, 7:31 PM

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how u no im not on max

agile token Jul 9, 2018, 7:32 PM

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because I know how the game looks like on every setting

restive sage Jul 9, 2018, 7:32 PM

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whatever that isnt the bug either

agile token Jul 9, 2018, 7:32 PM

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That is like ... 6?

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5

zealous basalt Jul 9, 2018, 7:32 PM

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That's more like

restive sage Jul 9, 2018, 7:32 PM

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no its 4

zealous basalt Jul 9, 2018, 7:32 PM

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1

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keke

agile token Jul 9, 2018, 7:32 PM

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4

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reee

restive sage Jul 9, 2018, 7:32 PM

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now try to spot the bug

agile token Jul 9, 2018, 7:33 PM

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No intro quest

zealous basalt Jul 9, 2018, 7:33 PM

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Zabdakar

restive sage Jul 9, 2018, 7:33 PM

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no

zealous basalt Jul 9, 2018, 7:33 PM

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zandalar*

restive sage Jul 9, 2018, 7:33 PM

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wut

zealous basalt Jul 9, 2018, 7:33 PM

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You aren't in beta

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tf are you doing there

restive sage Jul 9, 2018, 7:33 PM

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u win a prize

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😄

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thats the bug c:

agile token Jul 9, 2018, 7:33 PM

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Oh

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lol

restive sage Jul 9, 2018, 7:34 PM

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😛

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but how did i get here 🤔

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oooooooooh nobody knowsss

zealous basalt Jul 9, 2018, 7:35 PM

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calls the police of the blues

restive sage Jul 9, 2018, 7:36 PM

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._.

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nu

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hmmm was expecting more questions

mortal lily Jul 9, 2018, 7:39 PM

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what happened to all the realms?

restive sage Jul 9, 2018, 7:39 PM

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nothing

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oh my god the character copy button is gone again

tropic trail Jul 9, 2018, 7:40 PM

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ptr servers are incompatible

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why

mortal lily Jul 9, 2018, 7:40 PM

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theres only gladiators sanctum

tropic trail Jul 9, 2018, 7:40 PM

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?

mortal lily Jul 9, 2018, 7:41 PM

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Anduin and Sylvanas is gone

restive sage Jul 9, 2018, 7:41 PM

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end of the world confirmed

tropic trail Jul 9, 2018, 7:41 PM

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dude

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servers are up

restive sage Jul 9, 2018, 7:42 PM

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exactly

mortal lily Jul 9, 2018, 7:42 PM

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da fuq

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i think my wow has autism

tropic trail Jul 9, 2018, 7:42 PM

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but why i can enter ptr servers

restive sage Jul 9, 2018, 7:42 PM

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dont say that

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autism is a serious problem

tropic trail Jul 9, 2018, 7:43 PM

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btw i dont have npc for quest line on anduin and sylvanas servers

mortal lily Jul 9, 2018, 7:43 PM

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ohhh there it is when I loaded the game up it only showed gladiators sanctum

restive sage Jul 9, 2018, 7:43 PM

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live servers are up

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ptr is up

tropic trail Jul 9, 2018, 7:44 PM

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📎 image.jpg

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why this

grizzled sleet Jul 9, 2018, 7:45 PM

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You need to update

mortal lily Jul 9, 2018, 7:45 PM

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Try repairing the files

tropic trail Jul 9, 2018, 7:45 PM

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how to update ? i done that few min ago

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no updates

agile token Jul 9, 2018, 7:46 PM

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Intro quest is available again!

tropic trail Jul 9, 2018, 7:46 PM

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yay

dense plover Jul 9, 2018, 8:10 PM

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well

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intro quest is fixed

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siege of lordaeron isnt

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the part where jaina shows up is where it gets stuck

agile token Jul 9, 2018, 8:10 PM

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You have to wait

dense plover Jul 9, 2018, 8:11 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

agile token Jul 9, 2018, 8:11 PM

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because there is no cinematic

dense plover Jul 9, 2018, 8:11 PM

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i can skip the scenario

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so i did

agile token Jul 9, 2018, 8:11 PM

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aye

viral terrace Jul 9, 2018, 8:11 PM

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@dense plover If you want to do the scenario, go onto the PTR.

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It isn't bugged on there

dense plover Jul 9, 2018, 8:11 PM

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ive done it before

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i wanted to check for changes

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there were a few

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music makes it feel more epic

viral terrace Jul 9, 2018, 8:11 PM

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@dense plover Oh, the part where Jaina shows up? Oh that is always like that. You have to wait a while

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before the NPCs move

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It's like that on the PTR

dense plover Jul 9, 2018, 8:12 PM

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huh

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guess it is because of the cutscene

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weird

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whatever

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itll work on live probably

agile token Jul 9, 2018, 8:13 PM

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Yes

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Because cinematic is the waiting time

uncut vault Jul 9, 2018, 8:25 PM

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Yeah it’s intentional

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Because you can’t have the npcs move for just you

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Meaning you need to wait for everyone who’s doing it for the first time

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There’s problems with that in other areas, like hopping in the gyrocopters

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If you don’t hop in first, Anduin and everyone leaves you behind

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Should auto put you in the gyro

restive sage Jul 9, 2018, 9:52 PM

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be like me and play on the ptr

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its better than the beta anyway

agile token Jul 9, 2018, 10:01 PM

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Not anymore

grizzled sleet Jul 9, 2018, 10:05 PM

#

Can anyone tell me what discord is for gold and farming spots on BFA?

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Last time I was talking about herbalism on beta someone suggested me a discord channel but I forgot about it

uncut vault Jul 9, 2018, 11:23 PM

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@dense plover is this the stag that was talked about in the drust stories?

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https://i.gyazo.com/c43ab265d031bdafe86f3c1f51273627.jpg

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my thoughts were either him or malorne

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because of the val'sharah music in drustvar near ulfar's den

jade basalt Jul 9, 2018, 11:29 PM

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Yes

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He's accompanied by a deer, Athainne.

dense plover Jul 9, 2018, 11:30 PM

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yes thats the stag from the stories

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yeah

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he has that deer with him too

uncut vault Jul 9, 2018, 11:30 PM

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Was looking for the doe, couldnt find her

dense plover Jul 9, 2018, 11:30 PM

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usually she is with him

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sometimes she wanders off

jade basalt Jul 9, 2018, 11:30 PM

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In Ulfar's cave, sometimes

uncut vault Jul 9, 2018, 11:31 PM

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Also, Im happy they gave a bit of an explanation for why the thornspeakers are only thicc boys

jade basalt Jul 9, 2018, 11:31 PM

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Has anyone found the other Drust stelae other than the one in Ulfar's cave by the way ?

uncut vault Jul 9, 2018, 11:31 PM

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descendants of the drust who integrated

jade basalt Jul 9, 2018, 11:32 PM

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Ulfar is the only Drust Thornspeaker, the other Thornspeakers are human

dense plover Jul 9, 2018, 11:32 PM

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^

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yeah im sorry

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but theres still no confirmation that kul tirans are drust descended

uncut vault Jul 9, 2018, 11:32 PM

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ulfar does lol

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https://i.gyazo.com/0eb6f2085a7b7c5b90a00088976901c3.png

dense plover Jul 9, 2018, 11:32 PM

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yeah

jade basalt Jul 9, 2018, 11:32 PM

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Read again

dense plover Jul 9, 2018, 11:32 PM

#

and then he says he is the last thornspeaker

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we joined kul tiran society

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some of their descendants

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the kul tirans

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wanted to be druids

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so we thornspeakers helped

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i am the last thornspeaker

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you are misunderstanding the writing

uncut vault Jul 9, 2018, 11:35 PM

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🤷 seems like convoluted looking at the specific words

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Im fine with it either way

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would have been a nice explanation of why theres no normal human druids

dense plover Jul 9, 2018, 11:36 PM

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because the normal humans arent interested and have no way of knowing?

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theres literally one drust left who is teaching

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and he only has two students at his cave

uncut vault Jul 9, 2018, 11:36 PM

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I mean the normal sized humans

dense plover Jul 9, 2018, 11:36 PM

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yeah

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thats what im sayoing

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they have no way of even knowing about ulfar

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or giving a fuck

uncut vault Jul 9, 2018, 11:37 PM

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I mean, if the big ones can find out and learn, no reason the small ones cant

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and theres more than just those two students

jade basalt Jul 9, 2018, 11:39 PM

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There were more back then. Today Ulfar is the last one left. And they keep saying they have forgotten the old ways.

uncut vault Jul 9, 2018, 11:39 PM

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no I get that hes the last drust

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my question is more why all the kul tiran druids are thicc

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theres no reason atm why a normal sized human couldnt learn

hollow dock Jul 9, 2018, 11:41 PM

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game mechanics

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that's why

uncut vault Jul 9, 2018, 11:41 PM

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I might have read ulfar's thing wrong, but it means theres no explanation

hollow dock Jul 9, 2018, 11:42 PM

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also I read in here from soemone, not sure who, that the bulky Kul Tirans have drust blood or something akin to that and that's why theyre so large

uncut vault Jul 9, 2018, 11:42 PM

#

thats what I interpreted from what Ulfar said

hollow dock Jul 9, 2018, 11:42 PM

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so wouldn't it make sense that only those with that extra drust part would learn drust druidism?

uncut vault Jul 9, 2018, 11:42 PM

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but apparently I read it wrong

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thats a logical reason

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the drust descended kul tirans heard the call from the wilds and came to learn

jade basalt Jul 9, 2018, 11:42 PM

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The thing is it doesn't say that

uncut vault Jul 9, 2018, 11:42 PM

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Im aware, peach explained it

jade basalt Jul 9, 2018, 11:43 PM

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It says the descendants of the Kul Tirans heard the call of the Thornspeakers

uncut vault Jul 9, 2018, 11:43 PM

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it says nothing about hearing the thornspeakers

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just the call of the wilds

jade basalt Jul 9, 2018, 11:43 PM

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Of the wilds, yes

uncut vault Jul 9, 2018, 11:43 PM

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found the thornspeakers, who agreed to teach

jade basalt Jul 9, 2018, 11:44 PM

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Point is that for now, there's nothing stating that they descend from the Drust or that they have Drust blood

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(Not that I'd be against the idea)

restive sage Jul 9, 2018, 11:45 PM

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anyone here on the ptr?

hollow dock Jul 9, 2018, 11:45 PM

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it makes a certain sense to me that they'd be cursed by the Drust for wiping them out in some form.

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Like malformed children (the thick Kul Tirans out there)

uncut vault Jul 9, 2018, 11:48 PM

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Id be worried about that druid magic though

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https://i.gyazo.com/c33a8b8b5d82db52e3292f19aed5e04e.jpg

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does some nasty stuff to your model integrity

restive sage Jul 9, 2018, 11:54 PM

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abort

uncut vault Jul 10, 2018, 12:09 AM

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no steles in gol var, odd

rich apex Jul 10, 2018, 12:25 AM

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witchcraft is bad mmkay

terse patrol Jul 10, 2018, 12:55 AM

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ye, would be nice if you could use the normal human model as a kul tiran

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Since most of the Sea Priests use it and the skinny model

dense plover Jul 10, 2018, 12:59 AM

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what?

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then its just new classes for humans

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i cant even explain how ridiculous that is

sinful venture Jul 10, 2018, 12:59 AM

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Has anyone tried yet using the instantly finish a WQ from the order halls on the new WQ in Bfa?

dense plover Jul 10, 2018, 1:00 AM

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they dont work

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those are for broken isles world quests only

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thats literally how theyre coded

sinful venture Jul 10, 2018, 1:00 AM

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fair enough it was just a thought

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don't need to be snappy...

dense plover Jul 10, 2018, 1:00 AM

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im not

#

tone doesnt come through in text

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i just answered rapidly

hollow dock Jul 10, 2018, 1:01 AM

#

it does say on the text 'a broken isle or argus world quest'

dense plover Jul 10, 2018, 1:03 AM

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yeah, thats what i was saying

dense plover Jul 10, 2018, 1:28 AM

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they fixed artifact offhand appearance resetting

restive sage Jul 10, 2018, 2:01 AM

#

reely?

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did they fix the glitch where if you change the appearance the hologram expands

uncut vault Jul 10, 2018, 2:11 AM

#

found the doe, finally

#

https://i.gyazo.com/b9f32551d86e8f2152932584aa7ec07b.png

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dunno what triggers her to pop up

rich apex Jul 10, 2018, 2:16 AM

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Shadow Doe

#

🤔 🤔 🤔

restive sage Jul 10, 2018, 2:18 AM

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nope they still didnt fix the artifact bug

#

rip in piece

rich apex Jul 10, 2018, 2:18 AM

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bfa ruined forever

#

ion clearly doesn't care about wow

#

But yeah

#

I like Malorne's goth daughter there

zealous basalt Jul 10, 2018, 2:21 AM

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Wait

#

is that Cenarius' sis

uncut vault Jul 10, 2018, 2:21 AM

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nah neither of em are wild gods

#

just animals of the forest that got empowered by drustvar's latent magic

zealous basalt Jul 10, 2018, 2:21 AM

#

ah

rich apex Jul 10, 2018, 2:24 AM

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I'm joking 😛

#

The presumption is that Malorne is tied to the other one, because white stag

#

But not confirmed so far

uncut vault Jul 10, 2018, 2:25 AM

#

should be taken with a grain of salt due to being just a story, but according to the kul tirans athair was originally rescued as a stag by Arom, the first lord Waycrest, and Athair later saved Arom

#

could be something like echero though

rich apex Jul 10, 2018, 2:26 AM

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Well, if he is a wild god/nature spirit/whatever, makes enough sense

uncut vault Jul 10, 2018, 2:28 AM

#

the current best guess is that he and his doe girlfriend were just regular deer, who after being involved with the thornspeakers and arom became attuned to them, and eventually gained a bit of immortality and power

rich apex Jul 10, 2018, 2:29 AM

#

That doe does not look like a regular deer

#

Or having received some nice, friendly druid blessing

uncut vault Jul 10, 2018, 2:30 AM

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well, its probably not a nice druid blessing

#

but the thornspeakers are big on balance between life and death

forest tartan Jul 10, 2018, 2:34 AM

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the shamans should cleanse the druids off azeroth

zealous basalt Jul 10, 2018, 2:35 AM

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Eh

#

People here

#

Real talk

#

Using beta assets from the beta client itself for your own private server, does it make worse than just being a private server?

uncut vault Jul 10, 2018, 2:37 AM

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nah, private server is private server, assets are out in the open, same "no" protocol

forest tartan Jul 10, 2018, 2:37 AM

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“It's Free Real Estate!” meme

restive sage Jul 10, 2018, 2:38 AM

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omg stop saying YOU KNOW WHAT

#

your not allowed to talk about those

zealous basalt Jul 10, 2018, 2:38 AM

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I see

restive sage Jul 10, 2018, 2:39 AM

#

even mentioning the word is a bannable offense

hollow dock Jul 10, 2018, 2:43 AM

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private

#

server

night swift Jul 10, 2018, 2:44 AM

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server

#

private

mint arch Jul 10, 2018, 2:44 AM

#

private

#

server

forest tartan Jul 10, 2018, 2:45 AM

#

privé
serveur

zealous basalt Jul 10, 2018, 2:48 AM

#

servidor

#

privado

#

There can be any private server with extra stuff

#

But

#

I don't think nothing will ever defeat this screenshot

#

📎 unknown.png

uncut vault Jul 10, 2018, 3:12 AM

#

https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20765816616#post-6

Horde quest "A Quick Flyover" is now bugged - World of Warcraft Forums

You're supposed to drop bombs and disperse wisps, but until it's fixed, we're at a halt. Hopefully this one is a quick fix.

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victory!

#

ironic that the quest called a quick flyover was the bottleneck

feral belfry Jul 10, 2018, 3:22 AM

#

https://i.imgur.com/TBY2OGF.png

Imgur

World of Warcraft

#

Sorry never done monk legion quest

#

what am I suppose to do at this point? I wanted to test getting an artifact in BFA

#

Ohh

#

I googled a video the Interface does not show up anymore

bronze oasis Jul 10, 2018, 6:11 AM

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@ancient willow tell him that you wish to pursue different artifact, and choose which ever you have not done. In BFA beta this could be bugged, so better try on Live servers

fast grove Jul 10, 2018, 8:39 AM

#

Oh hey, a winrar is me.

#

Hello beta key I forgot I joined a contest to win.

amber briar Jul 10, 2018, 9:57 AM

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Beta I'm coming too! :P

viral terrace Jul 10, 2018, 9:59 AM

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Me too :P

pulsar smelt Jul 10, 2018, 10:36 AM

#

lucky ;w;

amber briar Jul 10, 2018, 12:00 PM

#

I win the contest so yeah I am ^^

zealous basalt Jul 10, 2018, 12:01 PM

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I swear

grizzled sleet Jul 10, 2018, 12:10 PM

#

Fel Lich Queen N'Zoth Empowered Alleria Windrunner

#

https://wow.gamepedia.com/g00/Luzik_Gallywix is he canon ?

Wowpedia

Luzik Gallywix

Luzik Gallywix was a goblin tinker and the father of Jastor Gallywix. He lived and worked on Copper Street in the slums of Drudgetown on the isle of Kezan.

zealous basalt Jul 10, 2018, 12:17 PM

#

Can we help you?

#

Yeah

#

100% canon

grizzled sleet Jul 10, 2018, 12:17 PM

#

You can help me if you can ask blizzard to add Fel Lich Queen N'Zoth Empowered Alleria Windrunner

zealous basalt Jul 10, 2018, 12:17 PM

#

...

#

Do you need meds? I think there is a cure for...

#

MADNESS

grizzled sleet Jul 10, 2018, 12:18 PM

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No need, I'm dying soon, I just used "Surrender to Madness"

zealous basalt Jul 10, 2018, 12:19 PM

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But in BfA you dont die anymoar

sudden oak Jul 10, 2018, 12:19 PM

#

legion surrender to madness or bfa surrender to madness?

zealous basalt Jul 10, 2018, 12:19 PM

#

Ya

grizzled sleet Jul 10, 2018, 12:19 PM

#

Legion

zealous basalt Jul 10, 2018, 12:19 PM

#

Ah

grizzled sleet Jul 10, 2018, 12:19 PM

#

You can still save me with a soulstone

zealous basalt Jul 10, 2018, 12:19 PM

#

stunlocks the shit of you

grizzled sleet Jul 10, 2018, 12:19 PM

#

murloc

zealous basalt Jul 10, 2018, 12:19 PM

#

There

#

Can mages steal surrender to madness?

sudden oak Jul 10, 2018, 12:20 PM

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I dont think so

#

that would be a big mess

zealous basalt Jul 10, 2018, 12:20 PM

#

Well

#

If it is a magic buff

#

They sure can

grizzled sleet Jul 10, 2018, 12:21 PM

#

If we're going back to Kezan in another patch maybe we can meet https://wow.gamepedia.com/Luzik_Gallywix ?

Wowpedia

Luzik Gallywix

Luzik Gallywix was a goblin tinker and the father of Jastor Gallywix. He lived and worked on Copper Street in the slums of Drudgetown on the isle of Kezan.

zealous basalt Jul 10, 2018, 12:21 PM

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I dont know

#

Havent read that short model

amber briar Jul 10, 2018, 12:24 PM

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Too much lag...

#

Too much lag...

pallid crescent Jul 10, 2018, 12:39 PM

#

sooo prepatch tomorrow?

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or next week mayb

zealous basalt Jul 10, 2018, 12:41 PM

#

Maybe next week

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Depends

#

If today we are getting the pvp end announcement

grizzled sleet Jul 10, 2018, 12:41 PM

#

They should make an annoucement today or tomorrow

zealous basalt Jul 10, 2018, 12:41 PM

#

If not

#

Another week

grizzled sleet Jul 10, 2018, 12:42 PM

#

And if they don't make an annoucement next week

#

then another week

#

murloc

pallid crescent Jul 10, 2018, 12:43 PM

#

kinda hoping for one more week of legion so I can hit 110 on my hunter and have an overpowered weapon

hollow dock Jul 10, 2018, 12:45 PM

#

Something to note: When blizzard ends a PVP season, they give 2 weeks notice

zealous basalt Jul 10, 2018, 12:46 PM

#

And with the Xorothian Cultist cast

pallid crescent Jul 10, 2018, 12:46 PM

#

yea but.. we can't have one week of prepatch

zealous basalt Jul 10, 2018, 12:46 PM

#

I'm afraid they will put it that late

#

Well

pallid crescent Jul 10, 2018, 12:46 PM

#

I mean we could... but.. you know

zealous basalt Jul 10, 2018, 12:46 PM

#

Might as well not make a prepatch

hollow dock Jul 10, 2018, 12:46 PM

#

that's been proven to just be a fluke that the Cultist cast actually ended on a date.

#

that a patch came out

#

cuz last cast ended a day after a patch came out

zealous basalt Jul 10, 2018, 12:47 PM

#

I just hope Prepatch is next week

#

I mean

#

I think one month of Pre patch is enough to get the class changes

#

And besides

#

Look at the damn ap

#

Does blizzard wants us to reach 999 lvl?

#

....oof

pallid crescent Jul 10, 2018, 12:48 PM

#

wasn't bfa hitting on the 4th?

zealous basalt Jul 10, 2018, 12:48 PM

#

14th

pallid crescent Jul 10, 2018, 12:49 PM

#

ooh

#

I keep thinking it's the 4th

restive sage Jul 10, 2018, 12:49 PM

#

i wish its the 4th

zealous basalt Jul 10, 2018, 12:49 PM

#

I wish it was yesterday

pallid crescent Jul 10, 2018, 12:49 PM

#

I wish they stook to the initial release day

restive sage Jul 10, 2018, 12:49 PM

#

yesterday?

zealous basalt Jul 10, 2018, 12:49 PM

#

Imagine

restive sage Jul 10, 2018, 12:49 PM

#

i wish it was tomorrow

pallid crescent Jul 10, 2018, 12:49 PM

#

late sept or was it oct?

zealous basalt Jul 10, 2018, 12:50 PM

#

One year of AP Overpower

#

How sick would we be

restive sage Jul 10, 2018, 12:50 PM

#

that would be so boring

zealous basalt Jul 10, 2018, 12:50 PM

#

In part yeah

#

Oneshitting bosses

restive sage Jul 10, 2018, 12:50 PM

#

yea

#

probably 1 shot argus

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the number would probably be so big that it would hang off your screen

zealous basalt Jul 10, 2018, 12:51 PM

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Instead of argus

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It would be

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Angus

restive sage Jul 10, 2018, 12:51 PM

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i didnt say that

zealous basalt Jul 10, 2018, 12:59 PM

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I almost got a heart attack because of what I saw in latests news

grizzled sleet Jul 10, 2018, 1:03 PM

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I almost got a heart attack because of what I saw in latests news

zealous basalt Jul 10, 2018, 1:04 PM

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Can we have the fucking annoucement

ruby star Jul 10, 2018, 1:05 PM

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?

zealous basalt Jul 10, 2018, 1:05 PM

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Like shesh

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This is the moment to have the "gg wp Pvp Season"

restive sage Jul 10, 2018, 1:50 PM

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?

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wut?

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hearthstone?

sullen dagger Jul 10, 2018, 2:59 PM

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sigh

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tbh i'm gonna miss my artifact weapons

hollow dock Jul 10, 2018, 2:59 PM

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Mecha jaraxxus

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when

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in BFA

sullen dagger Jul 10, 2018, 3:00 PM

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y

hollow dock Jul 10, 2018, 3:00 PM

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he's in hearthstone with the next expansion

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mecha demons when

grizzled sleet Jul 10, 2018, 3:01 PM

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mecha gnomes

restive sage Jul 10, 2018, 3:01 PM

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eh im glad theyre going away

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tired of never getting a new weapon

hollow dock Jul 10, 2018, 3:03 PM

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but we got like. 8 new weapons in Legion

sullen dagger Jul 10, 2018, 3:07 PM

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i honestly enjoyed the increased depth it gave at early egion when we started fillin the traits

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also, it's a god tier waepon, like knaifu or hati

zealous basalt Jul 10, 2018, 3:08 PM

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Knaifu

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Gfdi

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Sass elemental

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Doggo

sullen dagger Jul 10, 2018, 3:09 PM

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and i think notchanging the weapon in the whole expansion make me appreciate more that

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the space of my laptop works 50% of the time

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TRIGGERED

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but yeah

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this xpac weapons had kinda soe charimsa

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i bet in the next spac it will be like the rest of drops

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"eh more ilvl, nais"

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swap

zealous basalt Jul 10, 2018, 3:21 PM

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📎 Screenshot_20180710-102143_Discord.jpg

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I thought it said prepatch date

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cries

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So

livid onyx Jul 10, 2018, 3:34 PM

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hello guys i have a question but tbh I'm not sure this is the right channel to ask. I just created a lightforged draenei and Captain Fareeya made a "defeat of the legion" themed talk, kinda. But what happens when you hit ~98 (minimum level req. for legion content)? We have to fight with the Legion "again"?

zealous basalt Jul 10, 2018, 3:34 PM

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What is going to happen to this channel after beta is closed

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Also. Yes

hollow dock Jul 10, 2018, 3:35 PM

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Lorewise you don't

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but cuz gameplay is gameplay

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yea you have to fight hte legion. Even get to meet up with Fareeya for the first time.

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on the Vindicaar

livid onyx Jul 10, 2018, 3:36 PM

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get it. thanks

sullen dagger Jul 10, 2018, 3:40 PM

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huh

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this channelhas beenvery quiet lately

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is the rhys guy on vacations or something?

ruby star Jul 10, 2018, 3:41 PM

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nothing major has happened to talk about

hollow dock Jul 10, 2018, 3:41 PM

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I think Rhys just left

zealous basalt Jul 10, 2018, 3:43 PM

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Idk

sullen dagger Jul 10, 2018, 3:44 PM

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i guess he ran out of tpics to rant about?

hollow dock Jul 10, 2018, 3:44 PM

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Like I know he name changed to Nathanos

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but I think he's just left the channel. Which I am happy for

zealous basalt Jul 10, 2018, 3:45 PM

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Feels lonely

sullen dagger Jul 10, 2018, 3:47 PM

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oh he did change the name?

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i dint know

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welp

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

zealous basalt Jul 10, 2018, 3:57 PM

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No news about wrath boy?

sullen dagger Jul 10, 2018, 3:59 PM

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who?

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bolvar?

zealous basalt Jul 10, 2018, 3:59 PM

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Wrathion

fervent basin Jul 10, 2018, 4:04 PM

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Hey guys, I dont have beta access, Blizzard said something about "communities" feature, is it on beta or did they decided not to make it?

zealous basalt Jul 10, 2018, 4:04 PM

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It is on beta

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I dont know how to use it because I cant find a community

fervent basin Jul 10, 2018, 4:04 PM

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Its sounds nice for semi-casual like me

hollow dock Jul 10, 2018, 4:07 PM

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It's basically what discord is

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but in game

sullen dagger Jul 10, 2018, 4:08 PM

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^

viral terrace Jul 10, 2018, 4:17 PM

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@fervent basin I think communities is also on the PTR, so you can test it on there if needed.

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Is it just me or does the artifact weapon last you until 120? And then you get better weapons?

sullen dagger Jul 10, 2018, 4:23 PM

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105 or so

verbal badger Jul 10, 2018, 4:25 PM

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and by that he means 115

hollow dock Jul 10, 2018, 4:25 PM

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roughly 115/116 is when they should last ya. since theyre stat sticks

sullen dagger Jul 10, 2018, 4:26 PM

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yeah,goot confused

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what they said

verbal badger Jul 10, 2018, 4:26 PM

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in reality though you're gonna transmog the new wep to your artifact anyway

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so it lasts forever

lyric rose Jul 10, 2018, 4:34 PM

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what is the good class to play in BFA

hollow dock Jul 10, 2018, 4:35 PM

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Anything you know to play in Legion

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very few are changing massively in BFA.

cosmic needle Jul 10, 2018, 4:55 PM

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I have a question. I have a lvl 350 engineering mount on one of my toons and when I play her on the test realm, it says I can't use the mount because of the new way they are leveling professions. Has anyone else heard about this? I did submit a bug report but have not heard back. Thanks

hollow dock Jul 10, 2018, 4:57 PM

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that sounds like it's a mess up with the profession swap. While I haven't heard of anything, I'm certain blizzard will address it soon.

lyric rose Jul 10, 2018, 4:59 PM

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i wanna main spriest

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but people say SPriest is pretty low right now

crystal forum Jul 10, 2018, 5:00 PM

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I have a spriest that can do decent dmg but I never top charts

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Which is disappointing

hollow dock Jul 10, 2018, 5:00 PM

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Don't listen to peeps. Number tweaks are still going out. Hop onto the PTR and try it out yourself

lyric rose Jul 10, 2018, 5:00 PM

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is PTR and beta the same?

hollow dock Jul 10, 2018, 5:01 PM

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The same class changes yes

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PTR is currently on the pre-patch update, while it doesn't have KT and Zandalar, it has everything else

lyric rose Jul 10, 2018, 5:01 PM

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thank you

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i will give it a try

zealous basalt Jul 10, 2018, 5:03 PM

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Vris

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Donut lie

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You like weebs

hollow dock Jul 10, 2018, 5:07 PM

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weebs are illegal

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simple as that

zealous basalt Jul 10, 2018, 5:08 PM

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Oooo

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@mint arch

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Attacc

hollow dock Jul 10, 2018, 5:10 PM

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theyre illegal

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they can't attack

sullen dagger Jul 10, 2018, 5:10 PM

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^

undone ledge Jul 10, 2018, 6:57 PM

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um is it a bug that i can't get my neckless ? or not

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i can't start the quest for it

clever ember Jul 10, 2018, 7:04 PM

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Did you do the intro scenario?

mint arch Jul 10, 2018, 7:04 PM

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GWovoYayy

mental onyx Jul 10, 2018, 7:43 PM

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Question, what is cooldown on that mule machine for DI dwafs racial?

agile token Jul 10, 2018, 7:47 PM

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30 minutes

zealous basalt Jul 10, 2018, 7:55 PM

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starts slamming

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Me wants time on Prepatch

mint arch Jul 10, 2018, 7:59 PM

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17th

ruby star Jul 10, 2018, 8:00 PM

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I would of thought they'd announce it by now (the date)

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They are dragging it out

mint arch Jul 10, 2018, 8:01 PM

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its really stupid at this point

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just fcking announce the date

zealous basalt Jul 10, 2018, 8:01 PM

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starts slamming

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I want my date

dense plover Jul 10, 2018, 8:01 PM

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they usually announce a week before or so

zealous basalt Jul 10, 2018, 8:01 PM

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I want my date

dense plover Jul 10, 2018, 8:01 PM

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so maybe today

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or they might just surprise us

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that happens too

zealous basalt Jul 10, 2018, 8:02 PM

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Wheres my burrito

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Wheres my burrity

mint arch Jul 10, 2018, 8:02 PM

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o.o

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GWcmeisterPeepoHug calm down child

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u shall get ur 🌯

tropic trail Jul 10, 2018, 8:03 PM

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guys does horde have less rep mounts that alliance?

mint arch Jul 10, 2018, 8:04 PM

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overall?

tropic trail Jul 10, 2018, 8:04 PM

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horde have 3

ruby star Jul 10, 2018, 8:04 PM

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@dense plover Surprise us how?

mint arch Jul 10, 2018, 8:04 PM

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cause im sure BFA it'll be even rep mounts

tropic trail Jul 10, 2018, 8:04 PM

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alliance 6

mint arch Jul 10, 2018, 8:04 PM

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well, not all have been revealed

tropic trail Jul 10, 2018, 8:04 PM

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but in wowhead says there is 4 pterrodax mounts

uncut vault Jul 10, 2018, 8:04 PM

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Im loving going through this mmo champ thread

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with all the people saying "its obviously the 10th, people who think its the 17th are idiots"

tropic trail Jul 10, 2018, 8:05 PM

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so i think the one in beta is a placeholder for the 4

zealous basalt Jul 10, 2018, 8:05 PM

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but m8

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I don't see the prepatch

uncut vault Jul 10, 2018, 8:05 PM

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its four pterrordaxes, a hyena, and a blood leech

craggy nexus Jul 10, 2018, 8:05 PM

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So, the prepatch is released.

uncut vault Jul 10, 2018, 8:05 PM

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matches the 3 horses and 3 gryphons

tropic trail Jul 10, 2018, 8:06 PM

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@uncut vault so i dont need to be worried about only 3 mounts no?

mint arch Jul 10, 2018, 8:06 PM

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horses for alliance -_-

tropic trail Jul 10, 2018, 8:06 PM

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cause in beta the zandalari only have the cobalt one

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so in retail the 4 will be available right?

terse patrol Jul 10, 2018, 8:07 PM

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my hope is that the barrens warfront will give the alliance some cool mounts

grizzled sleet Jul 10, 2018, 8:07 PM

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Prepatch is 14 august

zealous basalt Jul 10, 2018, 8:07 PM

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oof

uncut vault Jul 10, 2018, 8:07 PM

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both factions get six, so no worries about that

terse patrol Jul 10, 2018, 8:07 PM

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give the horde 5 different types of kodos for the barrens warfront

tropic trail Jul 10, 2018, 8:07 PM

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next warfront will be gilneas for sure

ruby star Jul 10, 2018, 8:07 PM

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it's barrens

tropic trail Jul 10, 2018, 8:07 PM

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pls a undead horse hd

uncut vault Jul 10, 2018, 8:07 PM

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next warfront is likely barrens, as we have the map and some dialogue

ruby star Jul 10, 2018, 8:07 PM

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or whatever it;s called

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I want a ghostlands warfront or greenwood

tropic trail Jul 10, 2018, 8:08 PM

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maybe there wil be hyena mounts in barrens

terse patrol Jul 10, 2018, 8:08 PM

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I think the warfront will be a mix of the Barrens and Dustwallow

tropic trail Jul 10, 2018, 8:08 PM

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and leopards

grizzled sleet Jul 10, 2018, 8:08 PM

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You think Mythic+ season 1 is until 8.0.5 or with the whole raid ?

uncut vault Jul 10, 2018, 8:08 PM

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so far hyena mounts are from the vulpera and voldun

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season 1 is probably up until the next raid

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since the special affix is raid themed

terse patrol Jul 10, 2018, 8:08 PM

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theyre only obtainable by horde tho

uncut vault Jul 10, 2018, 8:09 PM

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theres a neutral rare one

terse patrol Jul 10, 2018, 8:09 PM

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so an alliance hyena mount for the barrens warfront would be nice

tropic trail Jul 10, 2018, 8:09 PM

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like the blood leech

terse patrol Jul 10, 2018, 8:09 PM

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ooo

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nvm

#

give me a thunder lizard mount

tropic trail Jul 10, 2018, 8:09 PM

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so patch 8.1 barrens patch 8.2 gilneas

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patch 8.3 dragon islands and ny alotha ahahaha

uncut vault Jul 10, 2018, 8:09 PM

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Eh, theyre gearing more towards quel'thalas than gilneas

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gilneas is just flip flopping between blighted ruin and a small base for worgen

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void elves have been very up front about wanting to reclaim silvermoon

tulip sun Jul 10, 2018, 8:10 PM

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Why would a hyena be a barrens alliance mount

terse patrol Jul 10, 2018, 8:10 PM

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i’ll be a tad peeved if they did quel’thalas and didnt redo Azuremyst

tropic trail Jul 10, 2018, 8:10 PM

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if dragon islands are like argus there will be a lot of cool dragon mounts

ruby star Jul 10, 2018, 8:10 PM

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Alleria and Umbric both want to reclaim silvermoon

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meaning the high elves would help

tulip sun Jul 10, 2018, 8:10 PM

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Horde and Alliance get horses for Stromgarde, likely will be matching in each

ruby star Jul 10, 2018, 8:11 PM

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void elves and High Elves would work together against the crooked Blood Elves

tulip sun Jul 10, 2018, 8:11 PM

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I would love some new kodos

terse patrol Jul 10, 2018, 8:11 PM

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Ia there even any proof we’re going to the Dragon Isles this expac?

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Is*

ruby star Jul 10, 2018, 8:11 PM

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I mean we can assume we might Honk

tulip sun Jul 10, 2018, 8:11 PM

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But i dont want racial.mounts on the opposite SIDE, destroys the uniqueness tbh

ruby star Jul 10, 2018, 8:11 PM

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they are pushing Wrathion

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story

tropic trail Jul 10, 2018, 8:11 PM

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Well there is a mount talking about the twillight flight

tulip sun Jul 10, 2018, 8:12 PM

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Horses and Wolves are the only.crossover ones so.far, excluding allied races and paragon chests

uncut vault Jul 10, 2018, 8:12 PM

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theyre probably gonna save the hyena mounts we have so far for whenever vulpera come out

tropic trail Jul 10, 2018, 8:12 PM

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dragon island would be a cool argus like patch

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and ny alotha for the raid

terse patrol Jul 10, 2018, 8:12 PM

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if we get thunder lizard mounts, this will be me

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📎 image.gif

uncut vault Jul 10, 2018, 8:12 PM

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the saddles on the current hyenas dont really fit the barrens anyways

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HotS has some badass thunder lizard mounts for inspiration

tulip sun Jul 10, 2018, 8:13 PM

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Thunder Lizards are fine

ruby star Jul 10, 2018, 8:13 PM

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@uncut vault As Umbric and Alleria want silvermoon back/alleria said it would one day return into the alliance it could be forshowding it sort of

tulip sun Jul 10, 2018, 8:13 PM

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But Alliance getting Kodos...eh.

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I like the diverse, unique racial mounts.

terse patrol Jul 10, 2018, 8:13 PM

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i want alliance thunder lizarss

grizzled sleet Jul 10, 2018, 8:13 PM

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But this is WAR !

terse patrol Jul 10, 2018, 8:13 PM

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give the horde kodos

tulip sun Jul 10, 2018, 8:14 PM

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I wish the Bronto was Horde only and the Alliance got a Kul Tiran themed mount in comparison, maybe a wicker beast or something

ruby star Jul 10, 2018, 8:14 PM

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The Alliance will retake Quel'Thalas!

dense plover Jul 10, 2018, 8:14 PM

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@ruby star surprise us as in not give us an actual date and just have it happen on a tuesday

tropic trail Jul 10, 2018, 8:14 PM

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hmmm what if when azshara gets killed the nagas are out of old god control so they join alliance for the roots with the night elves?

tulip sun Jul 10, 2018, 8:14 PM

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-likes mount colleceting-

terse patrol Jul 10, 2018, 8:14 PM

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A wicker mount that uses the same animations as the gronnling mounts would be epic

tulip sun Jul 10, 2018, 8:14 PM

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Honk, I think warfront mounts will always match

uncut vault Jul 10, 2018, 8:14 PM

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I definitely think its forshadowing for some kind of QT conflict, whether that means a warfront, a full patch, or whatever, it's gonna come in one way or another. Dunno if itll be a full reclamation but an HD upgrade would be nice

tulip sun Jul 10, 2018, 8:14 PM

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I would love a Quel'thalas patch

ruby star Jul 10, 2018, 8:14 PM

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@dense plover That would be pretty cool! though we already know/assume it will be on the 17th

uncut vault Jul 10, 2018, 8:14 PM

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https://i.gyazo.com/9515a1c0a944a69dff35431660903ed6.jpg

tulip sun Jul 10, 2018, 8:14 PM

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Break out my Belves

tropic trail Jul 10, 2018, 8:14 PM

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and in the horde the vrykuls are recruited for their hate agaisnt humans

tulip sun Jul 10, 2018, 8:14 PM

#

o.o

#

Oh my...

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❤

#

I love RPing with pets and animals.

ruby star Jul 10, 2018, 8:15 PM

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Agreed Khamin, it would most likely be the Alliance retaking it, due to Alleria and Umbric wanting to, so Void Elves and High Elves would therefore lay siege to it

tulip sun Jul 10, 2018, 8:15 PM

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I can't wait for the Vicious War Clefthoof!

grizzled sleet Jul 10, 2018, 8:15 PM

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Should have been Zalandari tank form

ruby star Jul 10, 2018, 8:15 PM

#

vereesa would therefore help Alleria

tulip sun Jul 10, 2018, 8:15 PM

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Vereesa seemed more...

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of a peaceful person in all honeesty

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"They can be redeemed"

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Does not seem. LETS SIEGE AND KILL EM

uncut vault Jul 10, 2018, 8:16 PM

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I think the best bet will be a warfront, since it works with updating the open world and instance, we travel to it via portal instead of needing to fly, and it has two very clear sides of the zone to work with

ruby star Jul 10, 2018, 8:16 PM

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They don;t have to kill the civilians

tropic trail Jul 10, 2018, 8:16 PM

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What will be the zandalari vicios saddle? A demosaur or a Trike?

tulip sun Jul 10, 2018, 8:16 PM

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An updated, fully rebuilt Quel'thalas would be AMAZING

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Kriss, it is a trike

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No wait

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It doesn't have one yet

hollow dock Jul 10, 2018, 8:16 PM

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I'm still way more hopeful for a devilsaur mount over a Thunder Lizard

ruby star Jul 10, 2018, 8:16 PM

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Yep a new rebuilt Quel'Thalas with blue buildings back under the alliance

#

fuck that would be great

tulip sun Jul 10, 2018, 8:16 PM

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That won't happen, and it would still be red no matter who it belonged to

ruby star Jul 10, 2018, 8:16 PM

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Blood Elves can go to suramar

tropic trail Jul 10, 2018, 8:17 PM

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y the vicious one hope its a armored devilsaur

ruby star Jul 10, 2018, 8:17 PM

#

they can repaint it

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if they rebuild

#

paint exists

uncut vault Jul 10, 2018, 8:17 PM

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I still think its weird theyre using all these other models for vicious mounts

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when allied races have more than a few unique ones

tulip sun Jul 10, 2018, 8:17 PM

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I 100% want all allied races to get vicious war mounts

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I think they are eventually getting there, starting with Dark Iron and Mag'har

uncut vault Jul 10, 2018, 8:17 PM

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hippo is nice and all, but give me a moose in horde armor

tulip sun Jul 10, 2018, 8:17 PM

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VICIOUS WAR MOOSE (Maybe panther? or lion, whatever it is).

terse patrol Jul 10, 2018, 8:18 PM

#

blood elves get revamped zones

tulip sun Jul 10, 2018, 8:18 PM

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Uhhhh, what is in Suramar

ruby star Jul 10, 2018, 8:18 PM

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if they do a Quel'Thalas patch it's most likely meaning alliance retake it, though I;'d assume it wouldn't be called a Quel'Thalas patch, the horde would need to take something in return to make it fair

terse patrol Jul 10, 2018, 8:18 PM

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draenei cry in azuremyst

tulip sun Jul 10, 2018, 8:18 PM

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A vicious war manasaber?

uncut vault Jul 10, 2018, 8:18 PM

#

tfw draenei finally get a functional ship that doesnt crash

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and those yellow zealots take it over

terse patrol Jul 10, 2018, 8:18 PM

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tbh

ruby star Jul 10, 2018, 8:18 PM

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I mean it's pointing towards alliance retaking Quel'Thalas then it being revamped for blood elves

tulip sun Jul 10, 2018, 8:18 PM

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For Lightforged, I want a Vicious War Talbuk(That is lightforged0

uncut vault Jul 10, 2018, 8:18 PM

#

vindicaar would have been a nice consolation alongside argus for the draenei

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now its kinda just lightforged only

terse patrol Jul 10, 2018, 8:19 PM

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@uncut vault I want the Exodar to get taken apart, and they built Karabor or Shattrath 2.0

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Use the new Draenei assets from WoD

tropic trail Jul 10, 2018, 8:19 PM

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A very cool warfront could be Zuldare

tulip sun Jul 10, 2018, 8:19 PM

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What is the reason for taking the city when the blood elves would all leave? Void Elves are very minor in comparison, and high elves...I don't know.

tropic trail Jul 10, 2018, 8:19 PM

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The zandalari want to reclaim it and the humans took it

tulip sun Jul 10, 2018, 8:19 PM

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Unless this truly means High Elves would become playable

uncut vault Jul 10, 2018, 8:19 PM

#

umbric shows that not all blood elves are in the horde for loyalty

tulip sun Jul 10, 2018, 8:19 PM

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But it would also mean the Horde takes something because the stupid, equal thing.

terse patrol Jul 10, 2018, 8:20 PM

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@tulip sun Forcing the Horde out of Quel’thalas

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Thats what

uncut vault Jul 10, 2018, 8:20 PM

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its an alliance of convenience for many

tulip sun Jul 10, 2018, 8:20 PM

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Despite what has happened

terse patrol Jul 10, 2018, 8:20 PM

#

I could see a Zandalari vs Kul Tiran warfront

tulip sun Jul 10, 2018, 8:20 PM

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The Blood Elves are as dug into the Horde as any other race after MoP.

#

But a warfront would be neat.

#

Nightborne, Blood Elves vs High Elves, Void Elves.

ruby star Jul 10, 2018, 8:21 PM

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The Alliance needs Quel'Thalas and so does the void elves and High Elves

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i agreee Khamin, High elves and void elves vs blood elves and nigthbonre

uncut vault Jul 10, 2018, 8:21 PM

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nyalotha warfront, nzoth just sits there speechless as we all continue to murder each other with him right next to us

tulip sun Jul 10, 2018, 8:21 PM

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Hm...

#

I am very surprised that Dark Iron and Mag'har get two different racial-themed mounts

#

Most of the vicous war mounts are just armored racial mounts,but they have two different animals

ruby star Jul 10, 2018, 8:22 PM

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Quel'Thalas patch gives them a chance to get it out of the outland instance

terse patrol Jul 10, 2018, 8:22 PM

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still waiting to see what dreadlord shaw gets up to

📎 image.jpg

uncut vault Jul 10, 2018, 8:22 PM

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dont even really need it put into the open world instance tbh

tropic trail Jul 10, 2018, 8:22 PM

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ny alotha will be the raid place like thunder island

uncut vault Jul 10, 2018, 8:23 PM

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just give it a separate one that we can fly in alongside the HD upgrade

#

we're gonna be portalling there anyways

tropic trail Jul 10, 2018, 8:23 PM

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and dragon islands the argus place

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its supposed to be up lordaeron

ruby star Jul 10, 2018, 8:23 PM

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if the Quel'Thalas patch happens it's most likely gonna be patch 8.2 or 8.3 right>?