Horde had it easier to get their allied races
#beta-ptr-spoilers
tranquil steeple
by the way is it just me or does one of the Inquisitors from the Order of Embers sound voiced the same way as Witcher 3 npcs? (I think it's Sterntide, who makes a comment after you beat Raal in Waycrest Manor)
pallid crescent
Does prepatch offer a quick leveling mode like legion did with kali and ek invasions?
verbal badger
no
strange falcon
@pallid crescent they specifically stated in an interview a few days ago,that it was not about the xp or gear,but more about what's happening
so the things wont give a lot of exp,
pallid crescent
Lots of voice actors from warcraft have been in other games or viceversa
harsh wedge
Does prepatch offer a way to get high level gear ?
pallid crescent
I personally thought yuri lowenthal voices anduin up until a couple of months ago
strange falcon
nope
harsh wedge
Like legion one offered 700 Ilvl item ?
tranquil steeple
No doubt about it, but it feels so incredibly different compared to 99% of other voice actors/voice lines
that it caught my attention
pallid crescent
So anyway back to the topic at hand
night swift
The nelf armor is technically heritage armor for them
strange falcon
well yea makore,i very much believe the darnassus armor qualifies as "unique" mogs
so your laughing is out of place
zealous basalt
Wait, were you serious?
The armor given by world quests there?
The one you could get via scrapyard or by using 100 trials?
strange falcon
i am pretty sure that armor seen in the prepatch
hasnt been used before
but i could be wrong since i didnt play wod ๐ค
strange falcon
i meant this btw http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/742395.jpg
in case we were confused
strange falcon
what if they are though ๐ค
zealous basalt
In a later date maybe
But the armor and weapons in the wqs are the same from 110 boost
Das why i
pallid crescent
I would love that mog for my nelfs
zealous basalt
'd
pallid crescent
I mean the shoulders and prolly helmet too are horrid
tranquil steeple
careful so people don't mistake you for an average belf character, though
zealous basalt
Oof
mint arch
they better be for players or there shall be riots!
zealous basalt
The tease
mint arch
all the nelfs in game will mog to this
zealous basalt
Nelfs are all speed
strange falcon
i should note that,the armor in the pic is the same the night elf in the original vanilla trailer from 2004 is wearing
pallid crescent
I honestly don't care if my mog is the same as 100000 other people
I just need to be as naked as possible
steel venture
And the same armor that all WC3 sentinels wore by default.
zealous basalt
Ye
mint arch
slutmogs best mogs
tranquil steeple
and Archers iirc, just in WC3 they had a cloak too
zealous basalt
And all sentinels were female too
steel venture
It is literally the armor most frequently seen and most characterisitic for night elves.
hollow dock
I mean.
steel venture
As characteristic as how orc grunts wear an equal-amount of nothing, or how stormwind soldiers are in full plate.
hollow dock
It's the same armor you're FIRST introduced to
steel venture
Which is why I hope we get this gear.
zealous basalt
Tho if we were full canon
Those orc skin would be really hard to pierce
At least not as the human skin
zealous basalt
RIP
pallid crescent
Orcs have a thick hide on their feet and prolly palms
zealous basalt
But I hope we get the armors we are getting
hollow dock
yea. Really callused up hands and feet certainly
pallid crescent
Rest of the body I imagine it's just as any other living creature
hollow dock
but the rest of their bod isn't that much tougher
zealous basalt
And icly elves are so fast that the naked eye cant follow
hollow dock
so like they can probably grab a sword and not draw to much blood from it
steel venture
yeah.
its just that swords aren't actually as "light-saber" as they're represented in most fantasy media
pallid crescent
Did someone say naked?
steel venture
... also you can half-sword and not cut yourself regardless
zealous basalt
Naked eye
steel venture
its actually not hard
zealous basalt
EYE
hollow dock
but a stab in their chest is as deadly.
pallid crescent
Didn't you see the tbc cinematic where he gets shot in the chest with 2 3 arrows?
pallid crescent
They went in just as if it were some other race
tranquil steeple
first he shrugs off
zealous basalt
Then belf priest comes and revives hin
tranquil steeple
the latter 2 brings him down
zealous basalt
There should be a racial passive of orcs getting bressed
And then coming to combat with a rage buff
steel venture
shad
is a good man
and y'all should look to his videos because he does a lot of fantasy vs reality things.
whilst not totally shitting on fantasy
zealous basalt
I prefer to never compare both tbh
pallid crescent
Orcs should have.... "every peon for himself"
Quickly build a mud hut in which to nap
zealous basalt
Me not that kind of orc tho
hollow dock
same as mak tbh
steel venture
got rid of the link because i remembered no promos but
basically orcs are just, tough yes.
but not invincible
hollow dock
like yea it's cool but
ya know.
it's fantasy for a reason
never said they were nile o;
zealous basalt
Honestly hate rpers that tried to find logic and science in a fantasy game
hollow dock
Mak just thought they had more leathery skin than say a human. Just corrected him is all.
pallid crescent
I wish armor transmogs would cross over from type to tupe
zealous basalt
But ye
pallid crescent
Type*
hollow dock
I never apply real world logic and science but I apply the universes rules and the universes logic to it
tranquil steeple
^
zealous basalt
I like the orc combat harnesses tho
hollow dock
like WoW logic dictates certain spells are harder to cast than others.
strange falcon
why talk like this,when you could talk like this and get way more attention
zealous basalt
Are tauren burgers a thing?
zealous basalt
Oof
strange falcon
if that's the question,are gnome smoothies a thing too?
zealous basalt
I mean
tranquil steeple
gnome footballs are a thing
pallid crescent
But the ingredients only drop from tauren players in ashran
hollow dock
Trolls certainly would have eaten gnomes
pallid crescent
Simple
pallid crescent
You use the giant spiders around wow
strange falcon
also ^
pallid crescent
Like those things are almost as big as spiders in australia
steel venture
its like eating lobster or crab
unique meteor
๐ค
steel venture
not really the best thing to like, try to turn into a sausage but i could see how its possible with giant spiders in WoW
since it's likely 90% leg meat
zealous basalt
Oof
pallid crescent
There is meaty stuff in their legs
tranquil steeple
when you send a couple hundred adventurers to kill giant spiders, you eventually get a good chunk of spider meat
zealous basalt
Oh ya
zealous basalt
That makes sense
Let's think
If that elf armor was to be a heritage armor
What could be the rest of races' armors
strange falcon
warden armor is not really "heritage" for night elves as a whole
as it's a ""small"" sect
tranquil steeple
mmf Warden armor..
steel venture
... I could probably see to not just do a redux of the grunt / footman gear for orcs and humans, they might do something that's like doomplate or like varian's armor
zealous basalt
Arent the wardens like...the ones you never have to talk about?
steel venture
wardens are the special ops / secret police.
top of the top of the watchers faction
strange falcon
you mean http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/742428.jpg @steel venture
tranquil steeple
that reminds me I'd like full length capes of the faction capes from Argent Tournament
as y'know, player available
steel venture
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/325721388444811266/449686135279714315/Wardens_only.png?width=507&height=484
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/325721388444811266/449686145903624192/Watcher_Example.png?width=507&height=484
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/325721388444811266/449686158621016084/Wardens_and_Watchers.png?width=507&height=484
for the distinguishment on the faction (watchers) and wardens (the elite.)
steel venture
and no i do mean like varian's gear @strange falcon
but likely more of the "touched up" version that's shown in HotS
strange falcon
well,that is what the humans are wearing in the prepatch
hollow dock
I think secret police is a little harsh for the faction no? They're more like the Shado Pan are for the Pandaren than anything else
high magnet
I got a little question, if I preorder BFA(deluxe) will I have access to beta?
strange falcon
no
steel venture
what i mean though really is like
everyone's seen how the heritage armor is
it solidifies the core theme of the race but is even more decked out than what you'd otherwise be able to get
nightborne heritage being a parallel of the original npcs
mag'har getting something that parallels grommash
dark iron getting this big, heavy set that screams "forged in blackrock mountain"
so i do believe they could do a SW human set that isn't just
a redux of the warfront set
if they parallel varian or anduins appearances.
and i could see this being an inspiration for a worgen heritage set, so on, so forth.
steel venture
yes x 500
gimme a big tophat with the gilneas emblem on it like ho man
and hopefully when they do the whole, "heritage for original races" it's by the time that we've already got the HD worgen
I wish we had the heritage armor concept from the start of WoW though. Or at least adopted it earlier on than this.
Arenanet has a similar idea to heritage armor VIA their cultural sets for each race.
And they actually went that extra step and made cultural armor for each armor type. TBH.
steel venture
Fair point.
zealous basalt
Prolly
They will start doing these kind of things if allied races and the heritage armor are accepted
Think allied races will be moved to base races when bfa ends?
hollow dock
no? Why would they
strange falcon
yeah,the uproar would be gigantic
if you spend all that time farming rep and unlocking
and they just get moved into normal races
zealous basalt
Hmm
Yeah, bad idea
So I ask
After BfA
What is left to do in terms of mechanics, xpac features and such?
hollow dock
like every other expansion
they stay
the same
Although something to note, on the PTR there is no unlock quest for the allied races
zealous basalt
But I mean
What could they add later? Like, eith the allied race system they literally fixed the issues of adding new races, which is a good thing
hollow dock
except they hadn't?
At blizzcon they said they were still adding in full races
just allied races were more for diversity and not meant to replace full races
agile token
The kul tirans and the zandalari trolls have their own unqiue models
They are the full races of this expansion
Except they aren't
strange falcon
i would argue that vulpera also have technically unique models and lots of customization
but then i would be hit with "they arent confirmed"
clever oriole
clever oriole
fun visual effect if you get the wings then cast a shadowbolt
probably not intended but still
agile token
Why would either the horde or alliance want them as a political ally
What makes them as valuable as the trolls
or the blood elves
strange falcon
they are quite definitely going horde from a lot of evidence,
and they are quite valuable as traders,just like the goblins
plus they are decent fighters
and can recycle a lot of junk into usable things
agile token
Might aswell add myself as an allied race
agile token
I'm saying i would be insulted
strange falcon
the enormous amount of work put into them from the art and animations department,is already enough to scream "allied race"
plus they are the only non-announced race(along with the sethrak) to have the heart of azeroth animation,custom-fitted for them,tail ears and all
and that animation is only owned by player characters
plus,if you were going to argue "all the animation are copy-pasted from goblins" they are very much not,
strange falcon
the vulpera live in caravans and trade regularly with the zandalari when we arrive on zandalar
you can even find them in the zuldazar bazaar area
sharp bluff
it honestly makes sense anyways, why would the horde help a race, then leave them to die to the snakes again? easy answer, the horde would not leave them, even if they don't go full allied rtrace, they probably will be used somewhere else
agile token
Yeah
hollow dock
so theyre already allies
mint arch
sylvanas will recruit anyone, more bodies is a plus for her~
agile token
Only looking at them being playable
strange falcon
plus the vulpera have the climax of their story is in the first raid
agile token
You have a point there
hollow dock
and them being playable means theyre allies
so
I dont understand your stance against them?
agile token
reeeeee
strange falcon
the vulpera have literally triple the work put into them,than kultirans(which are a confirmed allied race)
at this point in time
you cannot deny they arent going to stay npcs
hollow dock
granted they have so little work done to them at this point because the focus is not on them
agile token
definantly not
hollow dock
its on setting up launch.
agile token
We'll just have to see
strange falcon
still,even if that was true vris,they are the 8.1 allied race most likely,with vulpera maybe being 8.2
so why would they work on them so early
hollow dock
they did say it'd come after the first part of the war campaign
strange falcon
they had a perfectly functioning alpha model,which was more than enough for an npc
if they didnt want them to be allied races they could have just left them at that
instead they gave them HD player level models,animated eyes,ears and tails
hollow dock
certainly there are no other reasons to give them extra stuff.
strange falcon
for all their animations
hollow dock
absolutely no reasons. at all. what so ever
strange falcon
i am not saying they were given "extra stuff" but there is a point,where you give too much and it becomes overly suspicious
hollow dock
[12:14 PM] Dafire: if they didnt want them to be allied races they could have just left them at that [12:14 PM] Dafire: instead they gave them HD player level models,animated eyes,ears and tails
That's literally saying they were given extra stuff dafire
mint arch
maybe the vulpera are the true true enemies to the void
strange falcon
the vulpera have been given way too much work into them to not be AT LEAST suspicious
mint arch
and need the extra stuff for future content
agile token
^^
hollow dock
why bother just use maieve's model
mint arch
maiev-chan 
strange falcon
having a model update, is not the end of the story for vulpera,they have their own unique animations,and all of them are custom-fitted for them,it's not a lazy copypaste
strange falcon
yes,they have one entire zone out of three dedicated to them and the snakes
their story ends in the first raid
they are thus also relevant to the plot
agile token
I'd make a vulpera if they were alliance
strange falcon
nope,their entire faction is horde
zealous basalt
We have enough furries
strange falcon
tabard is horde,zone is horde,racial mount is horde,camp guards are horde
strange falcon
and by "horde" i mean,they attack alliance players
zealous basalt
I think you just dislike the fact they will be horde
agile token
8.1 is the furry update: new worgen models and vulpera
strange falcon
unless blizz pulls a "totally makes no sense to the story" asspull,you're getting snake people for alliance
zealous basalt
Like
zealous basalt
But didnt port say that they share the same ideals?
zealous basalt
That's prolly the ones we will get
hollow dock
that may or may not still be eating vulpera but definitely don't do slavery and all that.
tranquil steeple
which I'd almost chalk off as lack of anything else to eat that sustains them properly
zealous basalt
If elves werent alliance they would prolly eat humans and such
strange falcon
and while it may be a weak-er point,the leader of the whole alliance thingy (Halford Wyrmbane),literally says to you "keep an eye on them,we very much might need them in the future" or something like that
i didnt do the alliance foothold questline
tranquil steeple
wtb furrybane
strange falcon
zealous basalt
Orcbane
strange falcon
the one that tells you to do all the foothold stuff
strange falcon
@zealous basalt that's the pvp set recolor of antorus paladin tierset
zealous basalt
Fac
tranquil steeple
just note that it's the Alliance version of the pvp recolor
strange falcon
yup
strange falcon
you play a sethrak,and i'll raise a vulpera sleep https://i.gyazo.com/57e6436274d6a2a9cd35b7b1c30fb720.gif
plus,the sethrak heritage armor could look VERY VERY cool,with all the glass and stuff,
for an idea,look at emperor korthek's armor
ruby star
O_o
strange falcon
helms wouldnt be any more of a problem than they are on worgen and tauren
and guess what
we've had those 2 races
for many years
jade basalt
Actually, they look even more silly on sethrak than on worgen or tauren. People have made the comparisons.
Compared to https://i.imgur.com/z94AqXv.png
strange falcon
@jade basalt full post https://imgur.com/a/Y8LQyJ4
jade basalt
The only helms that fit them are the ones that are not actually helms, and are custom-designed for them https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUd7egEW0AACDvm.jpg
clever oriole
rip server?
strange falcon
btw those examples are put on with modelviever
as they dont support PLAYER helms
as of right now
jade basalt
The sethrak's one weakness : helms.
strange falcon
helms never stopped a race from being playable
zealous basalt
The Helms look silly
jade basalt
Yeah. That was not my argument though, my point was just that
- sethrak do look cool, except when they have to wear helms
- it's not true that helms on sethrak are not any more ugly than on worgen or tauren, sethrak helms look way worse
strange falcon
also remember that blizz uses whatever model magic to resize and place all helms at specific %s
so the helms will be more than likely resized
to fit their thin head
jade basalt
Yeah, though it's not so much the size that is the issue, it's the positioning
They may come up with a convincing positioning, but so far I don't think any fan has managed to come up with one
strange falcon
the silliest example of that is the diving helmet
zealous basalt
You know
zealous basalt
They would probably get armor on their skin rather than the head
steel venture
when has helms looking stupid and clipping issues ever stopped blizzard before
night swift
They could pull a move and just, give them helmet scarves like how tauren/worgen/trolls get the shinguards
steel venture
blizzard also second-guesses their helm design because
they can't figure out how to design around snouts
apparently
zealous basalt
Remove the cover of the snouts
hollow dock
this is why I just give a very hard, rigid and vehement no to helmets
steel venture
first one
magically cuts off the snout entirely
looks like an extra head stuck on
second one
"uhhhh.... yea that fixes it?"
"jerry it looks terrible"
"I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO OKAY?"
frigid umbra
Or dont play races with snouts... just saying๐
hollow dock
or just dont wear helmets
hollow dock
I repeat my former sentence
frigid umbra
Neah... you need something on your head.
steel venture
in fantasy, not really
tropic trail
Just put an eyepatch over it
hollow dock
not to mention helmets are actually detrimental to you. With them just being a layer of metal on your head
tropic trail
It'll be fine
hollow dock
more heat, if anything blunt hits you it'll hurt a lot more and take a lot less to scramble the brains
etc
frigid umbra
I guess.... but its just weird... super big cod piece armor and no helm... hmmm i think someone mixed up the head that needs protecting more ๐
strange falcon
but again this is fantasy,i could be naked and be more sturdy than someone in full plate armor
hollow dock
^
tropic trail
Looks at Night Elves
hollow dock
Now a days yea a helmet can save ya from a stray sniper shot from opening up your cranial area, but in a setting like WoW, a simple blacksmiths hammer can be wacked against you like a slap and kill you
frigid umbra
Really... you think that helms protect less them actually wearing nothing... hmmm lets agree to disageeee
tropic trail
Helmets really don't save you from much
hollow dock
It'll save you from a scratch of an arrow I'll give you that much
mint arch
wearing less armor is best armor
tranquil steeple
helmets save you from certain death by making sure it's certain death
hollow dock
but otherwise, its more of a detriment to wear one than help you.
tranquil steeple
not to forget, wear the wrong helmet, and you'll see less and be more likely to be attacked from somewhere you could've seen if you weren't wearing a helmet
tropic trail
Most pieces of armor has restrictions
Like most gauntlets didn't allow movement of the fingers
zealous basalt
AlexxCri
Away with real life comparison
Night elves are the prime example that armor is worse in some case
steel venture
kul tiran pikemen helms are A+ though
ngl
hollow dock
For nelves, more armor means les agile
less agile movements means death
there is logic and reasoning behind it
steel venture
like that's actually a decent helm design based on IRL helms versus
whatever half of WoW's helms are
zealous basalt
And the fact that a normal human wont be able to see then
hollow dock
a metal cup is what I call them
tranquil steeple
it's like a helm that drops from Stratholme, on the Scarlet side, from Balnazzar (I think)
that looks like a bucket with a cutout in it to be able to see while wearing it
restive sage
strange falcon
yup
steel venture
three.
pandaren, worgen, tauren
pandaren can look okay in helms but 90% of all female helms are oversized for no reason
clever ember
I always hide helms on my toons, shoulders too. Cause most shoulders are ridiculously oversized.
jade basalt
It can look good sometimes
tranquil steeple
Unless my char is a plate wearer, I often hide them.
jade basalt
Especially on races with ridiculously sized shoulders.. i.e any race besides belves and gnomes/goblins
clever ember
My main is a Tauren hunter. I donโt like the way a lot of shoulders look on her.
hollow dock
the only shoulders I don't hide is plate or if I can't mog into really small ones.
night swift
Do their tails not normally go through armor?
tulip sun
Well ya, but there is armor ON them
night swift
Oh damn youโre right
sour burrow
It's from the Belt?
http://bfa.wowhead.com/item=163271/7th-legionnaires-waistguard Got it to load with this item.
That seems like a strange thing to add for a single race.
But thankfully there's two races that can benefit. ;)
(Sethrak, cough)
tulip sun
I mean. They seem to be adding some neat things for certain racrs
The yellow eyes for belves
Now this
grizzled sleet
There is no straight back for forsaken iirc, it's just an animation
I may be wrong
I wish forsaken could get the chinese version as an option
untold fractal
^
untold fractal
if they are, I dont think it will be anytime soon.
rich apex
The Forsaken thing is just an animation pose
But that doesn't stop the youtubers from making flagrant clickbait, so
terse patrol
imo theyโll be using allied races to keep people playing for the whole expansion.
See a player drop in 8.1? Add Junker Gnomes and Sanlayn.
untold fractal
I see it as part of a natural progression, while i am not entirely up on my lore, I cant really thhink of any other major races they could add to the game. Allied races are something cool and nice to work towards, if you want to work towards them
rich apex
They sure don't dump them out in a few weeks if the subs dip
grizzled sleet
They already planned the allied races for BFA, they won't plan them 3 months before a patch drop because 5% of the playerbase dropped
We already know that some players only play for the first 1 month or two, it happens every expansion, but whatever, they already bought BFA
untold fractal
I mean they could plan for sub drops with content like that. the game has been going long enough that I am sure there is an established trend of content releases, sub numbers, and age of content.
grizzled sleet
sub numbers means nothing, there is some players who play for the first month or two, others because they can't afford the subscription for a long time, others who unsubscribed because of a lack of time, and some who just come back from time to time to see how things are working.
untold fractal
Im sure they have the capability to also track number of subs vs number of people actually logging in as well.
and sub numbers dont mean nothing. thats their revenue stream. Even is someone subs just to see the new conent for a week or two, thats enough motivaiton to keep content coming
rich apex
Considering 5 million is supposedly the slump for WoW
5 million subs, which SWTOR devs would sell their firstborns for
(Pay no mind to the other money rolling in from Hearthstone and Overwatch)
mint arch
and hots n starcraft annnnd blizzard have activision
grizzled sleet
Allied races are here to keep players playing, the ones who are already there, others who will come back just for an allied race after a while, will just complain because they need to unlock them, assuming you need to be exalted with some faction
hollow dock
@untold fractal the point Mim was making is that sub numbers are not as important as people make them out to be. Since they fluctuate every quarter
terse patrol
i am curious to see if weโll get junker gnomes tho
tulip sun
Do we even know what they are?
agile token
Don't u mean mecha-gnomes?
uncut vault
We got updated visuals on them
Rusted Vault is now the Abandoned Junkheap, it's an actual abandoned town
they arent mechagnomes, theyre kul tiran gnomes who have mysteriously vanished
agile token
๐ค
uncut vault
been missing since the third war, too
uncut vault
this tail armor makes me wish we could customize tail armor on draenei
mint arch
^
dense plover
anyone online on alliance and want to run waycrest manor with me?
i think i need to run it to get the jaina story stuff to work
hollow dock
I just really want my tiefling-esc tails for draenei already
uncut vault
we have a confirmed 3/4 elements that the kul tirans use now
just need to find something solid of them using earth magic
dense plover
i mean, yeah
its likely they have shamans if they have druids
have we ever had a race that could be a druid but not a shaman?
zealous basalt
The y have
uncut vault
worgen
zealous basalt
Night elf
dense plover
huh
uncut vault
but man, you cant imagine how many people tell me "theyre just mages!!"
zealous basalt
Man
Blizzard doesnt fuck around
Humans are really
The most versatile race ever
uncut vault
Im wondering/hoping the horde also has a world quest in the academy
would make the war mode aspect way cooler
uncut vault
I like that you actually have to claim outposts on the enemy continent
we're gonna need another long forgotten hippogryph
cause boy do I want this
terse patrol
While I'd love kul tiran paladins, I think it's fine they dont have them
dense plover
guys
can i just say how fun of a dungeon waycrest manor is
and the music
the organ plays when lady waycrest plays it
and then it stops visually and the music stops too
tame scaffold
Waycrest is a great place. the way the organ peaks when certain mobs die etc. Fantastic atmosphere
uncut vault
where is that peach?
dense plover
ulfar's den
uncut vault
ya but where is ulfar's den lol
zealous basalt
Porter
uncut vault
ty
dense plover
ulfar, the last druid drust helps us get to thros
zealous basalt
What did you mean with Moon Guard Rpers as NPC?
dense plover
btw, no way gorak tul wont be a raid boss
we literally dont kill him in the dungeon
and hes a huge part of the jaina stuff
and the druid stuff
uncut vault
the picture I sent, old friend of mine who helped lead a draenei guild
got his AU and MU characters in as NPCs at this base
no idea how
zealous basalt
...wow
raven plank
Made a video on Legion to BFA Honor Level Conversion, check it out to see what honor level you will be at in BFA.
dense plover
its done that for a few builds, but it is nice
also
the amount of QoL tweaks this expac is bringing is so great
minimaps are rendered in 2x higher resolution
so zooming out you can see more details
and zoomed in it isnt blurred
urban dew
So how is BfA starting to look in your guys opinion?
urban dew
It looks like it's going to be a ton of fun
urban dew
While trimming the bad off of Legion
uncut vault
required the whole raid
dense plover
my only worry is that there is less endgame story stuff at launch, but thats being balanced out by the amount of repeatable and interesting content
and the fact that they definitely want to have endgame story stuff in each patch, probably with an associated rep
since they expect you to get revered with everything within the first patch
uncut vault
theres also the possibility of an 8.0.5, so that could add story content
urban dew
I think 8.0.5 will bring some AR stuff to do
night swift
Yeah I'm gonna take my time with quests this xpac, rushing through legion's stuff made the burnout hit faster
urban dew
For sure
night swift
also having so many alts will help
urban dew
I killed myself during Legion
urban dew
STAPH
hollow dock
NEVER
dense plover
anyone up for running waycrest manor?
i have to run it for the jaina stuff
again
@uncut vault i need to ask you a question
if the motherlode less shit?
i remember it having crrap loads of trash
and being really frustrating
but i havent tried it since they fixed it up
is it still filled with tons of trash?
half iris
Its still pretty annoying
daring wind
urban dew
For DID?
urban dew
That is really cool
dense plover
i wouldnt be surprised if there are some on kalimdor too
urban dew
I thought it wasn't going to be that cool of a racial
dense plover
probably one in mulgore
urban dew
Seems I was heavily mistaken
dense plover
its especially useful since theyre an allied race
so as you level, you might run into the machines
and click it and add it to your menu
assuming there are a bunch
there could just be a few
urban dew
That is really cool though
dense plover
nods
urban dew
That you can add in new spots, that just makes it so much better
dense plover
i found a thing in ulfar's den
tulip sun
Is he trilling with you?
tulip sun
Trolling*
dense plover
dense plover
holy shit
uncut vault
yeah theres a lot of little things to find
dense plover
theres so many lore achievements
uncut vault
stormsong has a ton of old tidesage lore
dense plover
zelling is an exception to the rule
tulip sun
He could teach xD
uncut vault
Peach, do you see any world quests that give gear?
I see one, and its a dungeon one
all I can see are gold, resources, rep, and AP
uncut vault
only consistent source of armor is arathi and dungeons
uncut vault
which, arathi gives a LOT of gear
like, every single rare gives a 7th legionnaire item
every reset
dense plover
im reporting the lack of gear world quests
it was fine last build
that has to be a bug
tulip sun
I am so excited
urban dew
BfA is yet another day closer
grizzled sleet
@uncut vault like, every single rare gives a 7th legionnaire item
What ilvl?
whole onyx
Getting a lot of DC drops while doing dungeons.
uncut vault
baseline is 340
the warfront boxes that you get from completing it each week gives a tier 2 370 guaranteed
the rares have a chance to drop higher tiered stuff instead
zealous basalt
Guys, I have a question, is there a mention of Azeroth being a stronger titan the moment she is born? Or something like those words?
uncut vault
I dont know about the moment shes born but
she is the most powerful titan thats been found
zealous basalt
Probably more than the five?
zealous basalt
I see
Ty
Also got a crazy thought
If there is a decision to add Wrathion and some dragonkin related race to Alliance like we once discussed
How likely would be that blizz adds twilight to horde as their "slave race"
grizzled sleet
I don't think Wrathion will be exclusive to the alliance
hollow dock
Wrathion has stated he wholly supports the Alliance.
which is why people think that.
zealous basalt
Well, not likely but how of a crazy idea would it be?
grizzled sleet
The quest item you get from island expeditions to find Wrathion drop for both factions
zealous basalt
The lick?
uncut vault
also the item drops for both because both factions have interacted with him
if you read the quest, it isnty "wrathion is contacting you"
hollow dock
that...doesn't matter? Both factions finding Wrathion has nothing to do with him supporting the alliance.
uncut vault
its "hey these are some young dragons, maybe wrathion would know about this"
no the bug is this one rare giving me three of the same item lol
zealous basalt
Tho...I dont see why would he care
uncut vault
you dont see why wrathion would care about new, seemingly pure black dragons?
hollow dock
not really.
Blackrock is just a home of the black dragonflight
It's not even called blackrock because of that. It was only called that because of the Blackrock orcs
uncut vault
I mean, if I were gonna raise/look for new black dragons
zealous basalt
He got a little sensitive in the Death of Chromie scenario when we thought he was the one doing problems
uncut vault
the big ass roost and testing facility atop blackrock would be a good place to start
zealous basalt
I'm just memeing
Was
But now you got me curious
What would a younger dragon mean
I dont want to get hyped
obtuse token
is the beta starting quest working now?
zealous basalt
Oof
uncut vault
the ones we fight on the islands are fresh, yougn black dragons, who speak about protecting azeroth and azerite
dont have scratches or wear on their scales
zealous basalt
Are they hostile?
hollow dock
We know that not all the eggs hatched at the end of cataclysm. We see that up until recently eggs have been hatching
and yes very hostile
uncut vault
contrasting the old, worn down twilight dragons we fight
hollow dock
they try to kill us and all for the azerite stuff
uncut vault
their thing towards both factions is that we're abusing it, and should be protecting azeroth
zealous basalt
Do you think we will get a new wrathion model?
hollow dock
probably not
uncut vault
Possibly, though his current one holds up well
Id bet on a new dragon model more than a human form
hollow dock
Most likely
hollow dock
Because reasons
zealous basalt
But I'm curious
uncut vault
blizz liked the middle eastern look for black dragons
zealous basalt
My first question if I was with wrathion would be how did he got the idea of that disguise
uncut vault
gave it to wrathion
zealous basalt
Ah
I just have a question regarding black dragonflight
The surviving dragons before Deathwing's death, did they got purified from the touch of the old gods?
hollow dock
go ahead
grizzled sleet
I would like to see a reference to team rocket with the island expedition NPCs, as they are 3, it could be a nice reference
hollow dock
Nope
uncut vault
Nah, wrathion killed all he could find
uncut vault
as of right now, the only confirmed uncorrupted dragons are himself and ebonhorn
these new ones are a possibility, but not confirmed
they could also be manipulated
zealous basalt
Is that really likely?
urban dew
Didn't they find uncorrupted eggs in Neltharions lair?
hollow dock
nope
urban dew
Or was that just Legion beta
hollow dock
they were all corrupted
grizzled sleet
what about that new elite spawning on highmountain from 7.3.5 with deathwing human form?
uncut vault
wrathion did in beta, but that was cut
urban dew
What new elite?
zealous basalt
That's a vision prolly
uncut vault
its obvious they want to play with the young uncorrupted black dragon idea
HM just wasnt the right place
zealous basalt
Yeah
hollow dock
Trust me, the elite there has been done in to death
zealous basalt
I saw the vids
It would have been a mess
Mostly because Wrathion was playing as Ebonhorn
zealous basalt
Neltharion prolly did that just because he was that mad
uncut vault
if it is in fact wrathion creating the new dragons, it probably is him purifying eggs
grizzled sleet
Why would they add him exactly on patch 7.3.5 ?
zealous basalt
Now
zealous basalt
The question would be
hollow dock
Trust me.
zealous basalt
Where did he find the eggs
zealous basalt
Because it is off of the question that they are his
uncut vault
dragon eggs do last a long ass time though
zealous basalt
Probably snatched them
From any random broodmother
That or he found a way to bypass the loss of power
Because let's be honest, thing could be more powerful than the aspects themselves
grizzled sleet
Maybe he said "Protect me my children, I will give you the power"
zealous basalt
That's the youngest dad ever
magic goblet
so 8.0 this week fingers crossed
uncut vault
prolly not, no
zealous basalt
We already went over dis
grizzled sleet
Just keep them crossed for another week
zealous basalt
Porter
magic goblet
dont be a negitive nacey
zealous basalt
Let's say
uncut vault
Im not negative, I hope it isnt tuesday, cause I wanna finish my elite grinding
zealous basalt
Wrathion could infuse an egg from his power
The power that we gave to him through Pandaria
magic goblet
i hope it is tuesday so i can watch people go noo i ran out of time lol well not blizzards fault u took to long
tame scaffold
They would give advanced notice due to the mage tower etc. No notice has been given so no patch. I do expect notification potentially this week to hurry up last minute things though
zealous basalt
And let's say he could add the Azerite to make it a nice mix
viral terrace
Most people are expecting prepatch to drop on the 17th
zealous basalt
Do you think that's a potential op dragonflight there?
hollow dock
nope
viral terrace
I could see that if that is the case @zealous basalt, we might get another dragon isnpired expansion
magic goblet
they announced pvp ending last week so im expecting tuesday
uncut vault
pvp ending is usually two weeks
grizzled sleet
@magic goblet why would you hate on people like that ? it's not funny at all, a lot of people are struggling to finish things, if you don't care, at least try to understand
uncut vault
only exception is season 6, which is because there were no changes between seasons
zealous basalt
He uses beta for early access rather than doing feedback
grizzled sleet
magic goblet
just stating facts lol people who waited till now to try to finish stuff if they get it awsome if not oh well
dense plover
its almost definitely not tuesday
they have an extended vacation this weekend
they wouldnt release a patch without finishing touches
magic goblet
think what u will
magic goblet
and il be back here tuesday to laugh when i prove right
magic goblet
u wont be
zealous basalt
We are all going to /laugh
magic goblet
nope cuz i wont be wrong they need to get it out and stopputtng it off
zealous basalt
It is not ready yet
viral terrace
Okay I see makore has a point
dense plover
dont be fooolish
agile token
Hoping this week
zealous basalt
Tmw I dont know my own point
grizzled sleet
No hope, just pain
viral terrace
Mrpeach
zealous basalt
Ah
frail yew
i dont heal much but im looking to do it for this expansion specifically for mythic+ with friends coming back, there any stand out healers for that or they all pretty good for your average/slightly tryhard group?
viral terrace
My damn auto correct
dense plover
they arent going to push an update when no one has been bug fixing
zealous basalt
Mostly when there are people that just use beta for early access
uncut vault
like, they tested the launch stuff this week
dense plover
yeah, so now they need to have time to implement fixes
uncut vault
I doubt theyll finish analyzing it and getting their fixes out in a week
magic goblet
itsd been on ptr for 2+ weeks plenty of time for fixes to get out
grizzled sleet
@frail yew I didn't try all healers but I'm in love with the new disc priest
zealous basalt
Its not that easy
dense plover
lol
zealous basalt
Also I would suggest then putting an invisible wall as soon as you are about to finish Darnassus
frail yew
im not knowledgeble about healers, but in terms of gameplay I was def feeling the new disc priest as well, probably just go with that then XD
dense plover
they havent done the fixes
so clearly it isnt done
the fuck is - plenty of time for fixes?
if there was plenty of time, they wouldve been fixed already
uncut vault
lol, they forgot to add the ability to mog artifacts onto wands
zealous basalt
And the artifact mogging
magic goblet
we will see come tuesday all you nay sayers are tocix
zealous basalt
Itself is glitchy
magic goblet
toxic"
zealous basalt
The only toxic dude here is you man, seriously "laughing at you because I'm good you are wrong?"
uncut vault
bro you're the one that's been whining about beta not being your perfect early access haven for a week
magic goblet
and ur opiunions mean shit to me so hush
agile token
lmao
grizzled sleet
Why do they give beta access to 8yrs old?
magic goblet
let people have opinions and stop shoving urs down our throats
half iris
Why are you responding to an 8 year old?
dense plover
what the fuck are you on about now?
you cant go around and say my opinion is right, yours isnt, fuck you
dense plover
and then go say that your opinion matters
grizzled sleet
lol
magic goblet
lol pot calling the kettle black u have ur opinion i have mne stop trying to say yours is perfect
ruby star
Where's my cringe emoji
tulip sun
This is hard to watch
hollow dock
Is ThIs LoSt?
zealous basalt
You missed him last days
Saying that he wasnt going to provide feedback
And calling the beta bs because it was...
Guess what
Unfinished
hollow dock
pogchamp
grizzled sleet
May the light have mercy on his soul
hollow dock
nah. let the void take him
grizzled sleet
magic goblet
guess what been in every beta since mop same as this one didnt give any feedback and expantions turned out fine one person doesnt effect anythng
ruby star
Have you seen WoD Hobba, you think that turned out fine? Xd
dense plover
guess what
when something sucks
he can only blame himself
for not giving feedback
ruby star
^
magic goblet
who are u guys to decide what people dowith their beta access is it your beta is it ur time is it your account no no and no
dense plover
no
magic goblet
yes
dense plover
they literally tell you beta is for testing
thats the point of beta
the ENTIRE POINT
ruby star
Hobba your ignorance blinds you
magic goblet
ive not found a single issue yet aside from having to exit a quest then re open it to get it to finish completing nothing big
ruby star
Clearly your not paying attention then
agile token
Can we not argue and agree that IF you find a bug, do your job and report it
ruby star
The problem is he doesnt report them
magic goblet
cuz i havnt seen any LOL cant report wat u dont see or find
grizzled sleet
Then I hope you don't get a beta access ever again
hollow dock
hasn't seen any problems to reports
complains about shit being incompelete and NOT reporting htem
hwat
magic goblet
lol look at all these salty testers cuz smeone plays diffrent then them
hollow dock
you've come in here complaining about incomplete shit or thigns that don't work
zealous basalt
...too bad Blizzard doesnt lifts beta accounts
hollow dock
and then claim you haven't run into any problems
zealous basalt
This one
hollow dock
Sir, your ignorance is what we're angry over
zealous basalt
Really deserves the beta removed
ruby star
Exactly
grizzled sleet
Permabanned from beta
magic goblet
stop trying to tell someone what to do let people do what they want jesus fricking hell