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#beta-ptr-spoilers
dense plover
holy shit though
the game is so fucking smooth now
i havent had quest breaking bugs
holes in the world
its great
dense plover
yeah
thats what i said earlier
mrpeach774 - Today at 5:40 PM
guys
the fixed artifact transmog
the artifact tab now exists for all classes
and it allows you to choose which hand to mog individually
that island way off the cost of stormsong?
thats where jaina is! Fate's End
the only way to get there is with tidesages
tropic trail
I'm kinda glad they do
dense plover
ok, so far, the jaina quest has required 2 dungeons
pretty sure the voljin one only required 1
hollow dock
sounds about right. They make the alliance do more work for reasons
dense plover
i think the voljin quest only had the first half tbh
tulip sun
Guys...
gaunt helm
where is she?
gaunt helm
oh
dense plover
its essentially the alliance equivalent of the voljin storyline
chain of quests, do some dungeons
gaunt helm
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
dense plover
wowhead covered this months ago
gaunt helm
he will be a spirit for the horde
gaunt helm
Voljin too?
dense plover
what?
gaunt helm
Is the voljin stuff out or no
dense plover
it was out
sour burrow
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/419964105940795404/461705559578771456/unknown.png Dot and Dolly got harnesses.
tulip sun
People frustrate me SO MUCH
gaunt helm
oh
tulip sun
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20765246345 What in the hell is this shit?
gaunt helm
Do u think they are gonna do something With Wrynn?
tulip sun
Vomited then renounced his citizenship ONLY because Sylvanas was announced Warchief. What kind of reason is that, no person in teh Horde would do that, or else they wouldn't be Horde in the first place.
tulip sun
and called her a tyrant for what i only came assume is what he sees in datamining, which has yet to occur. The only thing she did since being Warchief was operate in Stormheim, and not even her own soldiers knew her own plans.
tulip sun
It just frustrates me, they call themselves Horde role-players...
gaunt helm
then we can do fuck all with Voljin ashes lol
sharp bluff
that link made me sick
tulip sun
No horde soldier would renounce their citizenship like that.
dense plover
voljin wasnt fel disintegrated
rich apex
Better go tell little Gorruk the five year old orc that he's going to be tossed into the Alliance interment camps
dense plover
voljin was burned at a funeral pyre
rich apex
Because the soldiers of the Horde refuse to defend him
dense plover
its a proper burial ceremony
rich apex
gaunt helm
oh
rich apex
To be fair
gaunt helm
His sword thooo
sharp bluff
Honor is no good to the dead, only the living and the unliving
dense plover
anduin has the sword
tulip sun
This other guy is doing it because of the Lordaeron, pretty much following Saurfang
First off, that didn't happen yet.
and she did let people retreat before she blighted the god damn place.
rich apex
TFW Sylvie and Saurfang specifically evacuate the Undercity's citizens
tulip sun
There were just really injured soldiers she considered acceptable losses.
dense plover
yeah, he calls to the light
no
it isnt
thats why he drops the sword
he calls for his father for help, then he calls for the light
varian isnt inside the sword
gaunt helm
well duh lol
dense plover
thats why it changed color when anduin picked it up
varian is gone
he isnt coming back
gaunt helm
but his dad helps him through the light
gaunt helm
lol
dense plover
so they are trying to make up for it
also, voljin has a much much stronger spirit
and for trolls, thats a big deal
gaunt helm
Vol had one xpac thats a no no
dense plover
he might become a loa
rich apex
He's gonna sit on his butt
dense plover
he refuses to work with either side
rich apex
Until the narrative conveniently lets him show back up to save the Horde in 8.2 or so
dense plover
one is alliance, the other isnt horde
rich apex
Hopefully, anyways
gaunt helm
Sylvannas is using chemical warfare sooo
rich apex
Saurfang: we must give the alliance a fair fight
gaunt helm
she is not gonna be honored anymore
rich apex
Saurfang: is an eight foot tall wall of muscle
gaunt helm
Saurfang might become Warchief and Sylvanas gets locked up?
zealous basalt
what are we discussing now
dense plover
she is using blight because its the only option that kills less people
and sylvanas wouldnt be imprisoned
its likely she will step down when saurfang is ready
gaunt helm
Ready for what?
dense plover
to lead
rich apex
we're about to segway into another day of The Sylvanas Morality Debate
Take a shot every time someone invokes a real life war criminal
dense plover
^
this discussion is old
and essentially relies on the assumption that sylvanas burnt the tree
rich apex
something something Sylvanas is Not Nice
dense plover
even though she wanted to capture it
rich apex
alternatively, something something Twilights Hammer infiltrators
gaunt helm
in this new update does she burn the tree Mr peach?
rich apex
There's two parts of the Darkshore event
rich apex
We've only seen the first on PTR
zealous basalt
hid*
rich apex
Presumably part 2 will be a surprise and finally say wtf happened to the tree
(hopefully)
zealous basalt
surprise...
SMILE
sweet
Ohh
When you get unlock
Your pvp artifact skin
It gets unlocked for all your bois and girls
tulip sun
Woot woot
rich apex
What's the point of going into the swamps full of trolls hiding in the water ready to skin you alive
without
JOHN J KEESHAN
sullen dagger
huh
sullen dagger
am i an infidel if i say that the old ritual of summoning looks more... nice?
dense plover
yes
sullen dagger
this looks way too murpley
dense plover
its void
sullen dagger
purpley*
sullen dagger
i guess
i guess it's just way overcharged after the old summoning
in effects and particles
tulip sun
Maybe 4 at bfa? I forget
sour burrow
Premade Groups lists Island Expeditions now. Heh.
But yet lacks Raids - Battle For Azeroth
terse patrol
Some people think Wrathion may in fact be older, or not the actual whelp from the egg we found.
I heard someone mention a “leak” about there being a new female black whelpling character to be introduced soon, but again, “leak.”
Could be bullshit
Probably is. But whooo knows.
Blizzard does weird stuff sometimes.
zealous basalt
I just saw
The video of the Ebonhorn Spiritwalker quests in the alpha-beta?
Where he was Wrathion
And yea...I prefer that he is just Ebyssian
sour burrow
"Dangerous and unpredictable" --> Crashes the game.
At least I can get credit for the damage I do with the shot I fire that crashes the game. :P (Probably wouldn't crash at graphics level 1 but ehh)
zealous basalt
wat dat
uncut vault
New rogue ability
zealous basalt
kage bushin like boruto's dad?
grizzled sleet
It's Secret Technique-dattebayo
uncut vault
“"Then, for players who have purchased BfA, we’re thinking about a week before the expansion drops, you’ll be able to do the battle for Lordaeron scenario, in the same way people were able to do the battle for Broken Shore in advance of the Legion expansion. That will tell that piece of the story.”
From the mouth of ion
grizzled sleet
and Teldrassil event = 2 weeks.
Seems like prepatch will hit 17th, with one week free of content, 2 weeks of Teldrassil and 1 week of Lordaeron
One week free of content but it will allow to adapt to class changes etc and it will also start the new video series about teldrassil
grizzled sleet
So what-dattebayo ?
grizzled sleet
Are raid azerite gear complete or they will add more ? because they don't offer as much variety as dungeon gear
And you can't get azerite gear from mythic+ chest, you can only pray RNG gods for the weekly chest to drop an azerite gear and the exact one you need
"Ion believes BFA will give more control to players in terms of gearing"
I don't think so
zealous basalt
Well
They put azerite gear for questing content at low levels
So...I suppose they will add more
grizzled sleet
There is 1 interesting trait that I want on 3 pieces
I can find it on dungeon azerite gear on multiple pieces
but on raid azerite
there is only 1 piece with that trait
tulip sparrow
how to start an island expedition on beta, is there a pre questline, my toon is 115 now and done most of tiragarde sound
hollow dock
@grizzled sleet thats where Mythic+ comes in and farming keystones for those dungeons since the +10/15 keystone versions will match the raid gear. X=
grizzled sleet
You can't get azerite gear from +10/+15 at the end of dungeon
You can only get it from weekly chest
which means RNG
They said no Azerite gear in the chest at the end of Mythic+ dungeons
Only weekly chest
You can't farm an azerite piece with M+ then
"The top-end Azerite armor is from select sources that are a cut above regular repeatable activities. For example, Azerite armor could be from a World Quest emissary box, but not a random World Quest. You won't get Azerite armor from the end reward in a Mythic+, but you will get Azerite Armor from your weekly Mythic cache, and the ilvl will be determined by the highest M+ you ran."
pallid crescent
is it safe to assume we will use the heart of azeroth to heal the world for good at the end of the xpac?
like legion with artifacts
oak wraith
That's what I remember Ion saying, you don't get Azerite gear from "spammable" content.
verbal badger
it's not safe at all to assume that
grizzled sleet
We are not yet sure, Legion artifacts were planned to be retired since Blizzcon because they were already planning the next expansion and the next artifact, but now they didn't said that.
They talked about Argus and artifacts being sacrificed in the Blizzcon before Legion. Now they haven't done the same, I think HoA may make it for the next expansion with some changes. I also think they will come up with some changes as the expansion progress (like what they did on 7.2)
tropic trail
Is vulpera comes as new race?
urban dew
They have a lot of evidence, but no official confirmation
grizzled sleet
Fighting each other
urban dew
Yep
mint arch
using dattebayo 
grizzled sleet
or dattebane
mint arch
urban dew
I do, but I don't play it
mint arch
nope 
cinder knoll
I do, but I also don't play, I tried few things and stopped, don't want to spoil new zones etc
ruby star
Khadgar dies 
tropic trail
I got beta access, is this an open beta or what?
hollow dock
Not finally
they confirmed that
ages ago
before the storm->Burning->Siege
that's the order of events
At blizzcon they had informed us that the Siege is in direct response to Teldrassil's burning. o;
cinder knoll
what remains a secret is how exactly the tree gets burned
hollow dock
As more and more information is revealed, I am 99% confident it's Sylvanas doing the burning.
cinder knoll
because from dialogues Sylvanas planned to capture it, not burn it
hollow dock
Before the Storm proved she can't be trusted when speaking to anyone Not Nathanos
So
really
I don't trust that her plans are fully revealed to us
sullen dagger
I tought that was a theory
hollow dock
No
sullen dagger
Not a confirmed fact
sullen dagger
Nice to know
hollow dock
it's fact
cinder knoll
well, its never confirmed unless its live, they can change anything while its still beta / ptr
hollow dock
Speaking of the order of events maxi
cinder knoll
ah ye
hollow dock
As for Sylvanas burning the tree or not
Time and time again we're shown a very different picture form horde to alliance transition
Horde takes over Astranaar and everyones alive
Alliance shows up, everyones dead and blighted
cinder knoll
I've heard about it, thats pretty stupid :/
hollow dock
To me, this shows Sylvanas is NOT being honest.
She has no reason to be and she trusts no one but Nathanos
sullen dagger
Kinda weird ye
hollow dock
keeping in character from presentationi n Before the Storm
sullen dagger
And i dont really get the nathanos confidence tbh
hollow dock
They were lovers in life.
sullen dagger
Ah
hollow dock
Sylvanas still feels some form of affection for him.
sullen dagger
Still
hollow dock
And with how deathly loyal he is to her
she can be absolutely certain he won't backstab her
As shown in Before the Storm, they have this macabre sense of humor and affection towards each other. I believe that the only time she's ever honest is when she's talking to nathanos alone
sullen dagger
Eh well see
hollow dock
every other line, protest, or yell is done to manipulate.
sullen dagger
One thing that struck my interest is that nathanos and sylvannas aré way better "conserved " than the rest of the undead
hollow dock
It's been explained multiple times as to why that is
hollow dock
the Dark Rangers as a whole are banshees that bound themselves to their bodies and used magic to prevent the rot from overtaking them as quickly as the normal undead.
sullen dagger
Im guessing here
hollow dock
Nathanos' body was restored to it's current state from the Valkyr but Sylvanas was just always like that regardless of them
sullen dagger
Banshees?
sullen dagger
Soz im on the phone and the corrector is doing its thing
hollow dock
I just turn auto-correct off
hollow dock
iPhone isn't meant for user accessibility =3
clever ember
iPhone go to settings>general>keyboard then toggle off auto correct. Should work.
clever ember
😁👍🏻
sullen dagger
Hallelujah
hollow dock
but yea. As more and more time passes, with all they've released, I am severely doubtful she didn't burn the tree down
sullen dagger
You sir just won some serious brownie points right there
Yep
Shes going down to the garrosh way of life
No brakes full yolo
hollow dock
She is, and yes she is more than aware of that in Before the Storm, but she's going about it the 'proper' way
clever ember
I can’t wait to find out what happened and how.
hollow dock
controlling all the information she can and severing any outside knowledge that can interfere with her manipulations
As seen in Before the Storm, the horde leaders are not informed of what Azerite is or what it can do
she freaks out when Magni tells them
cinder knoll
banshees are basicly ghosts, souls pulled out of their bodies, not as other flesh undead
sullen dagger
Im thousand percent sure that a council way of rule for the horde would be super good
cinder knoll
I just wanna know what they got for Saurfang
cinder knoll
I don't believe they will make him a "traitor" and I don't believe he would return while Sylvanas is still Warchiev, so... hard to tell
sullen dagger
He has managed to stay on the "good " side of al the conflicts he has been involved
cinder knoll
but hes also loyal to the horde
sullen dagger
And sylv ignoring that is asking for trouble
clever ember
I’m just tired of the horde having all these terrible leaders. Vol’jin didn’t have a chance to do much. I get that the horde are perceived as the “bad” guys, it’s just getting old. 🙁 my trolls and Tauren are not bad guys.
mint arch
didnt nathanos kill and steal his cousin or nephew's body?
cinder knoll
@mint arch yes
@mint arch I think it was in Dark Mirror comic or how exactly was the name
sullen dagger
Taurens aré good
clever ember
It was his nephew I believe.
sullen dagger
Trolls eh
It deppends the main loa they revere i guess
Vriss coud say better
But that s my impression
clever ember
Most of the darkspear trolls are relatively good though.
sullen dagger
Yeah. But the fact that they must obey every loa
hollow dock
well. not every loa Omake.
sullen dagger
Cause if not they aré roasted
clever ember
They only have to obey the loa they choose to follow.
sullen dagger
No?
hollow dock
Vol'jin is a bit more special in the idea that his work with Bwonsambdi has made him a little more trusting of them.
but generally, Loa don't interfere that much.
hollow dock
In which I am very certain that it was N'zoth or Kil'jaeden that guised themselves a Loa to make Sylvanas warchief
sullen dagger
Every troll dont matter who they choose to pray will do the loa will
clever ember
That’s what I think too Vris.
sullen dagger
Or am I wrong?
Again I'm not super knowdelegeable about this
Im speaking by memory
hollow dock
not entirely, it really depends on the troll.
those that are more religious and worshiping will
like Vol'jin
clever ember
The loa are jealous. It’s not often you’ll find a troll who honors more than one.
hollow dock
^ that too
cinder knoll
@hollow dock or the other option, the loa whispers were real and Sylvanas was chosen because what she is... as in Three Sisters comic, whispers tells Alleria that she is the true enemy (of the void)
sullen dagger
Then why when voljin said that sylvannas must be warchief since the loas (as in plural) said that
Everyone accepted that as a fact?
mint arch
being the true enemy of the void has nothing to do with being warchief
sullen dagger
^
sullen dagger
^
cinder knoll
I know, but when she is a warchief, she has whole army behind her, she gives orders, thats the point
sullen dagger
I think the void just wanna broke alleria
hollow dock
When it tells you it's whispers, those are NOT truths. They are manipulations made to trick you into serving them
sullen dagger
And killing her own sister for naught would have done the trick
cinder knoll
you are not wrong
hollow dock
Alleria is hateful of the horde. Her true enemy. Her sister is the leader of her true enemy. She is now the true enemy. Not the voids
cinder knoll
those are half-truths to be precise
sullen dagger
Why cursive
sullen dagger
Are you being possesed by the void?
hollow dock
Which is Alleria serving them
sullen dagger
LIES EVERYWHERE
hollow dock
No idea what you're talkin about Omake
mint arch
lol, why is sylvanas the singular enemy the void would care about?
im sure Death is the enemy
cinder knoll
because void sees all the paths... maybe there is a path when for some reason she can make a big difference?
on this level of information we have, it's easy to find explanation
mint arch
lul, sylvanas is just an elf
im sure Death can find better champions or avatars or w/e
cinder knoll
it's your opinion
mint arch
she just represents the true enemy
for the void
lol, i guess i dont know about sylvanas's god like powers that can 1v1 the void lords xD
cinder knoll
I guess you are eighter new to WOW or you just ignore a fact that in WOW universe even a single character can make big difference 😃
I'm not saying Sylvanas is a god and will 1v1 the void, that's just your wrong interpretation
cinder knoll
did you forgot Green Jesus?
mint arch
he did not do anything that could even come close to affecting the void lords
cinder knoll
sorry man but we know almost nothing about void lords, so please stop calling the arguments about void lords
mint arch
...riiiight
lul, glad ur not gonna bother explain what u mean by big difference xD
good talk~
cinder knoll
did you ask?
and big difference means some action will shift the future evens 😃 like when Rhonin etc had to return back to Well of eternity time to prevent Legion win because someone changed the timeline
can be anything
consequences is what is important in this case
cinder knoll
anything with big consequences yes, you cant know until you know
did you think that Sargeras will stab the sword into Azeroth when Illidan opened portal back to Azeroth from KJ ship?
that was quite big difference
compared to if he wouldnt
mint arch
lol, that was sargeras
cinder knoll
no that was Illidan
who made the difference
it wouldnt happen without Illidan
we would just die on that ship
crashing into Argus
and Im done now, if you dont want to understand, Im ok with it, its your opinion, I tried my best to explain my 😃
mint arch
lol mate, u have no point
ur saying big difference = anything
sure, sylvanas can do anything
any character can do something
of course sylvanas will do something xD
cinder knoll
let it go 😃
cinder knoll
I can just ignore you and you can continue your monologue, I just tried to close this properly so you can't say some shit like "wheee he didnt reply"
strange falcon
i heard they changed warlock portal model on beta
zealous basalt
And sucks atm
strange falcon
it looks hd now xd
zealous basalt
And you cant walk through
mint arch
are portals... physical
hollow dock
the warlock portal is
mint arch
so @hollow dock, lemme pick ur brain on some void stuff
the void is not... a hivemind right
the void lords are like the naaru, beings of void
tropic trail
Except stronger
hollow dock
yes, sort of, yes and yes
mint arch
so when the comic showed the whispers of the void in alleria
hollow dock
those aremade specifically to target alleria
mint arch
but whose whispers are they?
the void being she absorbed?
or are void lords able to reach her?
hollow dock
We don't know. We know the twilight's hammer hears whispers of the Old Gods and that they are apparently different butthe same as the normal 'Void lord' or 'Void' Whispers
mint arch
hmm, whispers of old gods makes sense since its the old god
but ppl say, the void lords fear sylvanas from those whispers
tropic trail
But regardless it still takes impressive will to resist the whispers, especially if they're by the void lords themselves
hollow dock
it's unknown if theyre all connectedbut mytheory is that the Old Gods are sort of conduits the whispers use here in our reality while the void lords assault one when they are directly in the void
mint arch
but then they cant say what or who those whispers are
rich apex
Assuming the Void is actually afraid of Sylvie and isn't just screwing with Alleria
hollow dock
that's why I made the explicit point of 'Those whispers are designed specifically for alleria'
The void, and old gods by extension, have a theme
mint arch
true
rich apex
unless
hollow dock
When they do the whispers
rich apex
if sylvie serves the true enemy of the void
hollow dock
they tug on the strings
mint arch
but sylvie serves no one
rich apex
Yes, yes I am
hollow dock
Anyways. As I was saying
mint arch
xD
hollow dock
The Void, and by extension Old Gods, tug on several different strings.
Fear, hate, insecurity.
All the things that make you 'vulnerable' as a person.
mint arch
ya
hollow dock
She fears being chained down, She has an insecurity of being weak, She hates the Horde.
mint arch
i guess the unknown part is how exactly the void works in sense of wth are the void lords
grizzled sleet
Vision of fear
Vision of hate
Vision of insecurity
hollow dock
That's how these whispers are tailored to Alleria and most members that hear and succumb to them
mint arch
those whispers could be some void being, the void force itself, the void lord, or something else even
hollow dock
Indeed.
mint arch
but ya, the nature of the whispers we know
hollow dock
I personally think its the void being inside of Alleria trying to get her to fully delve into the void and give in
mint arch
pawn of?
grizzled sleet
of the old gods
hollow dock
There's nothing stating that Mimi
grizzled sleet
The King of Diamonds has been made a pawn
hollow dock
yea
mint arch
ya vris, thats what i think as well, its the void naaru she absorbed doing the whispers
hollow dock
there's nothing there stating its of the old gods
zealous basalt
He can be looked as the pawn of Azeroth bh them
mint arch
so when ppl say the void lords are scared of sylvanas im just like -_-
mint arch
is azeroth even... on our side anymore?
hollow dock
Yea they take shit literally.
And Azeroth has neverbeen on our side to begin with
¯_(ツ)_/¯
rich apex
Because the maddening whispers of the Void should be taken at face value
🤔
Knifu is definitely a credible source with our best interests in mind
hollow dock
She isn't. But at the same time, everything she's said hasn't been proven false.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
frozen dust
What if Sylvanas has the potential to become the Void Lady and that's why they're afraid of her 
rich apex
The question is if Azeroth will still be on our side after we use her lifeblood as weapons for our petty war
rich apex
I can hear the forums reeeeing at tha tone
hollow dock
Again I don't think Azeroth has ever actually been on our side
zealous basalt
Azeroth is azeroth
hollow dock
^
zealous basalt
Like
mint arch
azeroth the planet or azeroth the titan
zealous basalt
If anything
frozen dust
If I was Azeroth I would just wanna be left the fuck alone at this point
rich apex
I mean the whole world soul thing literally didn't exist until the Legion story
mint arch
we are on the planet's side
rich apex
Azeroth gives us the boot because we keep dicking around
zealous basalt
And what do we do
rich apex
Problem solved
zealous basalt
Exactly
zealous basalt
We dont know
zealous basalt
What will happen when Azeroth is ready
mint arch
so much shit happened to the planet and the titan soul xD
hollow dock
by a big hot sword
zealous basalt
She got traumatized
mint arch
hollow dock
She's been traumatized multiple times
frozen dust
Draining the planet of its essence to fuel the war effort gives me some serious Fall of Cybertron vibes and that didn't end well for anyone involved
zealous basalt
"He just appeared and stabbed his big sword inside my poor skin*
"Help Magni-senpai'
hollow dock
He stuck it in my hole, Officer
grizzled sleet
"The element of surprise is on our side" when you got this, why would you need Azeroth ?
tropic trail
I wonder
frozen dust
I still love that one comic where Cthun is just hanging out in his living room and all of a sudden there's a sword through it
"GAH"
tropic trail
Does Azeroth suffer from eczema?
zealous basalt
What is
mint arch
poor cthun-kun
zealous basalt
Eczena
tropic trail
The main symptom is a rash that typically appears on the arms and behind the knees, but can also appear anywhere. @zealous basalt
zealous basalt
Ah
mint arch
o.o
tropic trail
PTSD?
hollow dock
Arrhythmia
tropic trail
Makes sense.
zealous basalt
Oh yeah
tropic trail
But then again, almost every has arrhythmia
grizzled sleet
By the way @rich apex "The question is if Azeroth will still be on our side after we use her lifeblood as weapons for our petty war"
Azeroth won't be made about this, we already used the Blood of Sargeras and Argunite (Argus) and they just don't care
rich apex
I mean Sargeras and Argus -did- try to kill us
mint arch
but then argus was already... dead basically
rich apex
So
hollow dock
You have an irregular heartbeat that normally causes heart attacks, Lilo? O.o
mint arch
o.o
tropic trail
Feels like it. :^)
rich apex
And the azerite is literally a major plot point of BFA
mint arch
🏥 pls lilo
tropic trail
But then again I've been up for almost a week straight
tropic trail
I wonder though
mint arch
check ur blood pressure
mint arch
well, titans technically are sleeping when they are still inside a planet
but id guess they dont sleep as we do
rich apex
Man I will laugh
mint arch
but why would she be?
tropic trail
I think it's more of the fact where it knows that Azeroth could use us to protect her
grizzled sleet
why whould she of she's not on our side?
rich apex
If N'zoth wins and destroys Azeroth
mint arch
as a titan, azeroth has had no interaction with the other titans
mint arch
so she has none of their morality or goals or w/e
zealous basalt
They dont want to destroy her tho
mint arch
and as a planet, we've fcked her up so much
rich apex
Azeroth isn't a place, it's a people
Well, corrupted
Which presumably destroys all life on the world in the process
Buuuut it'll never happen, alas
zealous basalt
Consider Sargeras
tropic trail
I'm curious on what the Titan's planets were like pre-birth
grizzled sleet
And by the way; Azeroth herself is giving us "The heart of azeroth"
mint arch
he wanted to kill everything before it could be corrupted
rich apex
Magni: here, champion, use tha heart o' azeroth to save our world
PC: you mean to destroy my opposite faction rivals
Magni: did ah fecking stutter
tropic trail
My question is, how badly did the Black Empire damage Azeroth alone?
grizzled sleet
Not as bad as BFA
frozen dust
Not as badly as a sword you can see from space
zealous basalt
"...so all these millenia in our black empire didnt nothing compared to the sword"
When you stab someone with a sword
karmic copper
old gods
zealous basalt
It goes straight
tropic trail
Or so you think
frozen dust
mint arch
so lets ignore the force of the stab
grizzled sleet
Maybe we will see something about Gorshalach. The sword in Silithus is Gorribal, Aggramar used Taeshalach and we even were able to loot it. Combined they can become Goshalach which is the most powerful weapon in the universe
mint arch
from a titan literally slamming his sword into the planet
grizzled sleet
If both fragments are ever possessed by a non-evil being, they can be combined to reform Gorshalach
Maybe a legendary weapon on BFA
frozen dust
The poor saps that were trying to level there absorbed the blow
zealous basalt
Azeroth's weapon when she borns
tropic trail
I thought it was three pieces?
grizzled sleet
no 2
http://bfa.wowhead.com/item=152093/gorshalachs-legacy&bonus=3610:1472
This trinket is named after Gorshalach
jade basalt
"If both fragments are ever possessed by a non-evil being, they can be combined to reform Gorshalach"
Nah, that's RPG lore, i.e non-canon.
grizzled sleet
Aggramar S
frozen dust
Not gonna lie, I 100% thought you were making that up
jade basalt
The sword of Sargeras technically does not have a canonical name (though yes it would likely correspond to the RPG's Gorribal).
https://wow.gamepedia.com/Sword_of_Sargeras
grizzled sleet
Aggramar's sword is named Taeshalash and we got Gorshalach's Legacy as trinket
so it may be canon
jade basalt
The names Taeschalach and Gorschalach are canon, their backstory from the RPG is not.
And we also don't know what sword is Gorschalach in canon.
Technically it could be Sargeras' previous sword, his current sword, or Aggramar's previous sword.
grizzled sleet
Humm I guess you're right
Chronicle Volume 1 established that, rather than the RPG's origins, Sargeras and Aggramar's weapons were always separate blades, that shattered in a duel against each other when Sargeras betrayed the Pantheon.[2]
Sargeras is also seen wielding what would be Gorshalach in Chronicle Volume 1, but it is not named there either.
tropic trail
If it's not named then I think it'd be more accurate to say could be Gorshalach
jade basalt
Technically there may be 2 to 4 swords (2 = Sargeras' sword before it shattered and after it shattered, and Aggramar's sword before it shattered and after it shattered, or 4 = Sargeras' old sword before it shattered, Sargeras' new sword, Aggrammar's old sword before it shattered, Aggramar's new sword).
And we only have two names, Taeschalach for Aggramar's current sword, and Gorschalach which was not attributed to any sword.
And they have made huge efforts to not give a name to Sargeras' sword.. even in Before the Storm or Silithus or even by Magni, it's always called "the sword of Sargeras", "the blade of Sargeras", "Sargeras' dark blade", etc.
grizzled sleet
While it is never named, the sword is very likely to be Gorribal given that it looks identical to its presumed, previous depictions of it. In-game, it lacks the eye in the hilt (replaced with an orb of energy), while the Patch 7.3.0 key art does depict it with an eye. However, it is whole instead of broken, it is thus possible that Sargeras reforged it.
jade basalt
I know, I wrote that 😛
tulip sun
Is shadowforge city visitable for dark iron yet?
mental kite
grizzled sleet
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tulip sun
I don't >:o
and I was asking because I guy showed a picture of the uhhh
Inn Keeper I think it was
Leper Gnome male with red robes
mint arch
i dont >:o
frozen dust
No, not Blackrock, that's the orc one... Hell, I don't know
uncut vault
Shadowforge city is in Blackrock Mountain
uncut vault
It isn’t currently visible, the portal to it isn’t up in Stormwind, but the maghar area is
grizzled sleet
Maghar?
frozen dust
Gotta be able to admire them never being slaves and all
mint arch
mint arch
npc inviting u in right there~
ruby star
tulip sun
How large is it
tropic trail
Prolly as large as the dungeon
tulip sun
That would be the biggest hub thus far
zealous basalt
nopls
zealous basalt
the entire dungeon is really bothersome
tropic trail
I want all of it
mint arch
the mines of moria
tropic trail
I want more
hollow dock
In which thats roughly the same size as Highmountain and Suramar City.
tropic trail
I want it ALL
ruby star
it's not massive
hollow dock
Id think Suramars outdoor raid area is larger
tulip sun
Moira in there?
tulip sun
What does she say
hollow dock
So yea about the same size, actually slightly smaller, than suramars outdoor area
hollow dock
I imagine most shadowforge city is still closed?
tulip sun
Those are the vicious war mount animals right?
karmic copper
Im guessin' moira gives the heritage quest
ruby star
she has no text and has her basic voice stuff
tropic trail
I'd smash
tulip sun
Oh thqt sucks, maybe they'll add something later
tulip sun
Is the vicious mount different? I felt like it was, maybe not
karmic copper
So, the area is phased and not part of the dungeon?
karmic copper
So, its basically like the area in the dungeon
tulip sun
Really neat 😛
ruby star
oh wow
ruby star
ruby star
haven;t check mag'har
karmic copper
Although it might just be orgrimmar cause of the heritage cinematic being there
ruby star
a gnome is here
karmic copper
but they might have gorgrond or nagrand
karmic copper
Yea
tulip sun
If what others say is correct.
karmic copper
They use the training one
ruby star
I'll check mag'har for you
tulip sun
I wish I had beta
ruby star
but Dark Iron area is pretty dope
karmic copper
whats kinda weird for dark irons is that when ya level a dark iron in the blackrock zones, just seems weird for them to attack another dark iron, but hey, thats cata story and not current story
same with maghar and draenor
karmic copper
and for maghar when doing draenor zones and grommash disliking his own former soldiers lol
karmic copper
oh
rich apex
Cata takes place in the past and they can't fix that 😛
rich apex
See: pandas running around Outland and Northrend
tulip sun
@ruby star
karmic copper
inside the big building maybe
tulip sun
Back building
tulip sun
To the right
ruby star
it's the building
uncut vault
It’s just the PvP building in valley of honor
ruby star
i see
uncut vault
No changes, just a bunch of maghar
tulip sun
THat is so sad they only get that xD
But what else would they get? I can't think of anything
uncut vault
Who are the two behind Moira in that pic?
I know the one with the staff is the anvil thane
ruby star
uncut vault
Who’s the other?
ruby star
yeah Mag'har stuff sucks compared to dark iron
tulip sun
What other NPCs are there?
ruby star
i will go bac kand check port
karmic copper
yea
karmic copper
they dont have the skin color of the shattered hand
which is the white one that blackhand uses
uncut vault
Thicc maghar
tulip sun
Hmmm
karmic copper
maybe the clan died out
tulip sun
Was Geyarah in that building?
karmic copper
and no more of them
tulip sun
Did you notice
karmic copper
or they stayed
uncut vault
Yeah I mean that guy, is that thaelin?
ruby star
THaelin is the small one
karmic copper
Drorith
ruby star
Yes Kiffix?
ruby star
the drill at the end of his hammer moves
uncut vault
Thaelin gets Ironfoe, sweet
karmic copper
Is the throneroom where Thaurissan originally was there?
karmic copper
I think
that is longer in the area
so might not be t here if i teleports u into the dungeon
karmic copper
friendly golems?
ruby star
yep
karmic copper
i think thats the way to the throne room
tulip sun
Ok, another weird question
Do Dark Irons/Mag'har replace the old allied races or just add more to the embassy?
tulip sun
Oh? o.o
uncut vault
Eitrigg beside Liadrin and Baine
tulip sun
Interesting
karmic copper
Looks like normal dwarf hairstyles
tulip sun
I am really liking the theory that all embassy people recruit someone now 😛
They gradually all go stand by the others
karmic copper
Wonder what greymane has
ruby star
karmic copper
And aysa
tulip sun
Aysa = Sethrak, Ji = Vulpera is my assumption
uncut vault
Greymane is recruiting the Kul tirans
tulip sun
Rohkan is getting Zandalari
karmic copper
makes sense he is
ruby star
What about Tyrande and Gnomey boi
uncut vault
It’s Rokhan, definitely
zealous basalt
Didn't Aysa and Ji come back to the turtle
tulip sun
No
karmic copper
since gilneas founded Kul tiras